The Alien Romulus Paradox

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[@sumstuff6956]

Fun fact David didn’t make the xeno and I’m on team covenant also brilliant underated score also

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@@sumstuff6956 jed kurzel spores!!!!

[@BlueMarsalis]

There's half a dozen alternative Alien³ stories now, Aliens The Original Series, Colonial Marines, William Gibson's Alien³ audio drama, comic and novel... and none are as good as the film. I recommend you check out Mike’s Monsters expose on Neill Blomkamp's Alien project, and when you finish watching it, you will be grateful it never got made.

[@BlueMarsalis]

You also need to read The Cold Forge, stuff in this got directly lifted from that.

[@XristoferLee]

vpn's are not secure and put you at more risk not less. catch up times change.

[@the8thknight]

To be fair, she didn't just blow the Offspring into space. She blew it into an asteroid belt. The same one that completely obliterated the space station. I'm pretty sure it is a goner. So while very similar it is different as we haven't had an Alien sent into an asteroid belt before.

[@finnduncan9760]

i thought it was awesome but your comment made me go ☝️🤓 “erm but what about the alien being jettisoned into the gas giant in Isolation” yea i know its not the same exactly but its similar

[@FatherOmega]

Pffffft wait till you see the next one lmao it’ll be BACK

[@lukabajic9729]

@@finnduncan9760 the jettisoned alien is dead in isolation; it is later revealed that there was an entire hive on the station and that whole jettisoning part was unneccesary. I mean, even if he somehow can survive gas giant, it's mass means that it is irretrievable and stuck forever

[@TheDJBagpuss]

This is a total petty correction I know but it wasn't an asteroid belt, it was the ring of the planet they started on. Very cool using it to kill the Offspring alien though.

[@YoungTummy]

It'll come back in the next couple movies. Then you'll know nothing can kill it but a marines rifle 😂

[@CosmicFist78]

andy saying a dad joke after killing that alien wouldve gone so unironically hard like imagine him landing on top of that alien and going "what did the rampaging space monster say to my gun? nothing at all". okay maybe not that but still

[@3rdworldgwaming467]

Lame!

[@holmboy]

"Did you hear about the Xenomorph in the elevator shaft? It's going down!"

[@GENERIC_CHANNEL_HANDLE]

​@@3rdworldgwaming467In literally the best possible way, yes.

[@3rdworldgwaming467]

@@GENERIC_CHANNEL_HANDLE I say "lame"..but I'd probably enjoy it the most lol

[@duffahtolla]

Know why these things don't have friends? It's their corrosive personality..

[@christianmanka3884]

Ian Holm’s family encouraged the use of his likeness. They said he would have liked it. Literally NO reason for it to be hated so much. The CGI was wacky at first but the hate it’s getting for bringing him back is so unfounded and childish. HIS FAMILY WAS GLAD TO HAVE HIM BACK! People need to move on. He’s not your dad. 🙄

[@tgiacin435]

Honestly it didn’t bother me. This would suggest his model have been mass produced. Plus it gave the destroyed Bishop effect like in alien 3. If the Holmes estate was happy, so am I.

[@G59METH]

Right, it didn't even look as bad as people make it out to be, I've barely seen anyone complain about Wolverine's mask, everyone called it perfect, it's crazy how when it comes to, for example Alien franchise, everyone is overly critical of basically everything, but when it comes to the MCU everyone praises the stupidest things...

[@AlliWalker]

I thought it looked terrible. I would have preferred to see Fassbender return as a Walter model on the ship so they wouldn't have to use CGI, which still doesn't work when fully exposed in the scene.

[@bingerz237]

lmao it looks so bad

[@Wokiis]

@@AlliWalkerit was an animatronic

[@blinkachu5275]

"Where did the eggs/facehuggers come from" That's explained. Rook extracted the DNA from the found Xenomorph and made the facehuggers himself with that DNA. It's why they look different. They look grey like the Xeno rather than how they're portrayed in earlier movies where they're more brown/sand colored

[@idiopathictendencies8453]

F$&king horrible

[@NotMorganFreeman.]

I can't remember, but does it actually say this in the movie because that is the lamest explanation yet. I think I was too busy cringing.

[@KarltheBarl]

@@NotMorganFreeman. Do you have anything to do outside of be a dunce online or is this your whole shitc

[@justingoers]

I just figured they got the face huggers from LV-426 considering the company knew about that moon and the alien.

[@usapostate23]

This is a dumb as scientists using Rioley’s DNA to clone Rioley with Queen Alien inside in RESURRECTION, or David using DNA of Shaw and black goo to make Alien eggs.

[@donovanwiebe2495]

The "get away from her" line got a huge laugh in my theater

[@XAVR_]

He sounded like Jimmy from South Park 😂

[@drayday117lol3]

Same here 😂

[@_YourFlyIsOpen]

I shook my head lol was like that ain’t it Chief 😂

[@donovanwiebe2495]

@@BlueBones8 "because of how the line cane out" Yeah, it was delived humorously and the audience laughed. Win-win

[@GallowayJesse]

there was a shocked silence and then a chuckle from everyone when I saw it.

[@Callon4968]

I refuse to stand by and watch as everyone bashes the Ian Holm stuff. 1. AI wasn’t used to recreate his likeness, just a filter for his voice. 2. His portrayal in the film was a practical recreation using a face cast from one of the Lord of the Rings films and CGI to enhance movement and facial features. 3. His family not only signed off on it but welcomed the idea, saying they loved seeing him in the film again. Stop saying it was disrespectful. It wasn’t.

[@dwhooley1158]

My biggest beef with it isn't the ethics as you said, his family signed off, but just how it looks. I think it doesn't look good and would have looked better with a real actor

[@duffahtolla]

Yeah, I was happy to see him again. But I wish they hadn't used that "chances" line again.

[@nacyletherop4910]

​@@duffahtollaif the ash/rook models have similar neural architecture, then it's not as surprising that they would say the same lines in an incidental manner. Assuming the model is a dedicated science officer type that literally think the same way (barring quirks picked up from individual experiences), one that works with a various amount of Rook models could say "yeah, they say that a lot.".

[@dante6985]

I mean... Ethically Ian Holm wouldn't have cared much. It just didn't look convincing so people are going to poke holes in it any way they can. It's particularly egregious given there are several actors (Lance Henrikksen, Michael Fassbender, Winona Ryder, even Andy's actor) who could have played the android instead. Disrespectful? No. Unnecessary? Yes. And also, by definition, a little ghoulish because you simply don't have Holm's permission unless he signed a contract into perpetuity.

[@usapostate23]

Okay! Not disrespectful, just dumb, distracting, and uncanny valley. Great job Fede! 🙄

[@EtherBotGames]

I would argue that the hybrid offspring's defeat wasn't that it was blown into space but that it was blown into space on a collision course with the planet's ring.

[@geroffmilan3328]

Yeah, and that would work... except most planetary rings aren't anywhere near as dense as portrayed in this film.

[@Butterkin]

The name that makes the most sense for it, IMO is a homomorph. But some might consider that a bit spastic. It makes sense though. Xeno = alien/otherworldly Homo = man/human Morph = phenotype/form It's a Homomorph. The replicated discount black goo that Rook and *the science team TM* was able to synthesize from face hugger DNA had made its way into her body and as we could see with the mouse it still takes on the properties of the original black goo by immediately mutating and taking over whatever lifeform it comes into contact with and infusing it with dangerous traits, attributes and physiology. Since as it is established in other movies that what black goo will do is not consistent in the slightest- the only guarantee is that black goo will do *something* and that *something* in this situation was to attach itself to the fetus already growing in her womb and give it Xenomorph characteristics. Effectively making a human fetus switch places with a larval xenomorph in that life stage. What if instead of a normal chestburster, it was a regular fetus that became the xenomorph. What if instead of the Xenomorph taking on human characteristics (which is what has been happening this whole time by the way) a Human in its developmental stage took on Xenomorph characteristics instead. To say that it is a hybrid is incorrect all Xenomorphs are by default hybrid organisms because they always take on some of the characteristics of the species that they can infest which is all species that have a compatible set of organs for a chestburster to grow and feed in. What we saw was the very first Homomorph. The very first human to take on xenomorph characteristics, as rook would say, the next step in human evolution.

[@citizen3000]

@@Butterkin More like the Retardmorph

[@citizen3000]

@@EtherBotGames it doesn’t matter either way, it was off the ship and that’s all that matters

[@citizen3000]

@@Butterkin I’ll tell you what it is: extremely stupid and dumb-looking

[@lottabilotta]

Andy said that “get away from her,” pauses then “you bitch” because Bjorn calls him bitch twice earlier and you can see he visibly reacts to it the first time, and gets electrocuted the second time so you cant see. It was still callback to ripley but it was worked in cleverly, because it showed his development as a subservient drone to a more hardened individual with agency.

[@RandoSando.]

FUCKING THANK YOU! it's like everyone who complains about the line weren't watching the fucking movie. It was his defining moment of character growth, and they reduced it to only a call back.

[@antoniobrown247]

Finally, someone who know wth they're talking about. I swear these youtubers need to open their ears.

[@Justitia_Nomen]

it wasn't clever at all, it was done poorly because fan service.

[@MaMastoast]

@@RandoSando. The character growth was fighting back, we didnt need him "saying the line" for that to work.. It only devalued the moment because it felt so out of place. When he said "Get away from her" I was like "A bit on the nose, but okay" but then he added the "you bitch" and it felt super clumsy

[@lottabilotta]

@@MaMastoast did you not read my comment at all? He was called bitch and watched others use the word bitch multiple times in the movie. It was learned behavior, as was his arc.

[@Mr.RedEye]

So disappointing that you kept crediting the game elements to Dead Space and NOT to the actual inspiration: Alien Isolation. The inside of the space station in Romulus is designed almost 1:1 to the station in Isolation and it is beautiful and faithfully recreated. Romulus feels almost like a Movie rendention of Isolation, complete with a final boss battle to flip all the switches while running from a terrifying creature. Also weird that you call out shooting the hybrid out of the ship not making sense because we know the xenomorps can survive in space... but leave out that the hybrid doesn't just get shot out into space, it gets shot out directly into a comet ring that grinds the cargo bay it's stuck inside into space dust.

[@lustrazor44]

Yes Isolations DNA was all over it. Even the damn save station was there.

[@wondercove]

Because this guy doesn’t know anything and thinks that using buzzwords makes “hem smat” 🤓☝️

[@onepieceman6160]

Love how this means the queen from aliens is also still alive in space somewhere

[@leejones8582]

cocooned probably

[@toothemaxx4027]

I didnt think of that! I hope more movies are made in the universe to bring the greatness of the comics into live action.

[@adriandenton6637]

Bored and hungry floating around.

[@maddie_rose]

Very demure. Very mindful of her.

[@bratkat130000]

Yeah, take THAT Ridley Scott... the Queen is still ALIVE!!! 😂

[@retcongecko1016]

Respectfully disagree on the whole “blowing the alien out of the airlock is overdone” thing. Sure, it’s predictable, which doesn’t lend itself well to being scary, but it takes the root of Alien’s horror and amplifies it (being trapped in an enclosed space with a hyper-aggressive apex predator). Of all the elements in the series to repeat each time, it’s hardly the worst. Also, from the perspective of a random person who’s never encountered a Xenomorph before and has borne witness to all the damage it can cause and how it’s seemingly unaffected by everything, the only other thing that seems plausible at that point is launching it into space. Even if you know it won’t kill it, it’ll at least get it far away from you, which is all anyone can hope for.

[@PierceArner]

I think the biggest strength & weakness of *_Alien Romulus_* is that it's taking on the burden of being a greatest hits patchwork quilt of the franchise, but it did that to achieve what the _SERIES_ needed by highlighting that there's undeniable excellence within ALL the films and they should be embraced & explored rather than shying away from them. I sincerely hope that he makes another *_Alien_* film after this, because with all of the overt meta nodding at the audience for unnecessary part film callbacks being the weakpoint of *_Romulus_* - the best part about this film doing all of that is that _a sequel doesn't need to do that AT ALL anymore._ Given the way in which the entirety of the series was brought together in an unquestionably brilliant way for this film, there's genuinely no one else I'd rather see doing another one, and especially as a sequel if he's got ideas for it, since with the little *_Alien Isolation_* details amongst many other things, it's clear he's got a deep and genuine passion for the series that absolutely translates in how he treats the world-building, storytelling, & design.

[@Jon-rg6ly]

I also would LOVE to see this same director handle the sequel to Romulus.

[@abdielgarcia3583]

The way that this is a sequel to Alien and Prometheus, I would love to see a follow-up that's also a Covenant sequel. Then they can get really weird with it while still keeping it 'Alien' and tying up loose ends

[@adriandenton6637]

It's as creatively redundant as The Force Awakens. For 15 year olds that have never watched an Alien film before. Grown ups don't care about easter eggs.

[@Mewsashi-cz9fo]

I wanted to see more of the life of the blade runner like, inner city, Fed alvarez shown a side of it i've never seen or only in very short flashes in aliens and never to this world building / lore building scale, it was one of the most interesting aspect of the movie.

[@adriandenton6637]

@@Mewsashi-cz9fo I agree, when I saw the aesthetics at the beginning I was all for it. It was all spoilt by the aliens.

[@spicyboi544]

I honestly was surprised with Romulus. It didn't superly scare me but I got some jumps from it and facehuggers where awesome in this one, those things are a real menace in my eyes now cause of this film

[@levicurtis6669]

I always felt like they're almost never showed off like they should be. We need more scenes similar to the medbay in Aliens

[@whiterabbit1632]

wow you scare easy! I'm watching you from behind the couch...

[@duffahtolla]

That scene where the facehuggers were working as a group to open that door was absolute nightmare fuel!

[@deadstarethics4892]

David didn't create the Xenomorph, he created a 'version' of the Xeno. That's in both David's notes ( a book ) as well as the novelisation of the film, they just didn't do a good job of explaining that in the movie. There are also design differences if you compare to the OG.

[@lolglolblol]

yeah, but if you watch interviews with Ridley, it seems pretty strongly hinted at that he really did want David to be the creator of the xenomorph. The whole 'reverse engineering it from the Engineer's own designs' bit was made more concrete in following materiel, especially the novelization, which feels like backpedalling

[@mcla9212]

Pretty sure the Xenomorph appears in a carved mural in the Engineer ship in Prometheus. Watched it last night.

[@lolglolblol]

@@mcla9212 well, it kinda looks more like a deacon (the creature that came out of the engineer at the end) There's also other creatures on the mural that look similar to, but not the same as, facehuggers. Originally, the black goo's effects would have been more overtly tied in with xenomorph, or at least similar creatures. Fifield, the geologist who mutates into that zombie like thing, was originally going to look more xeno-like, too, with an elongated head. The deleted scenes can be found online

[@liskeke]

@@lolglolblol It's Xenomorph on the mural

[@lolglolblol]

@@liskeke The head is too pointy and the torso too small for a xenomorph

[@1297skypred]

I didn’t even know this movie was getting any hate. I loved it. Period

[@adriandenton6637]

It's truly awful, there's nothing original in it, it's not scary, it has 2 scenes that are pretty much video game quests. The 2nd half is just a Disney rollercoaster ride that wants you to notice every easter egg and shout 'I recognize that'. I was looking forward to it ending. 3/10 for the Bladerunner beginning and visuals.

[@1297skypred]

@@adriandenton6637 Don’t care. I loved it lol

[@adriandenton6637]

@@1297skypred lol

[@justinbrooks9454]

​@@adriandenton6637for me i absolutely hated prometheus and covonant and this movie was in my opinion the best alien movie to date above the og 2. You dont need to do sompthing original or plot driveing. As someone who loves the comics and books the best storys are just insert xenomorph into story see how it unfolds. Like the book ware its like mideavle people vs xenomorphs or avp.. Idk alien to me is a cool scyfi slasher action film not some startrek level stuff

[@adriandenton6637]

@@justinbrooks9454 So do you expand on it or do you just make another tired and cliche ridden franchise like Halloween, Jurrassic Park or Scream? See it drag its ass around the block again and again and watch it die a slow death? Alien Romulus 2, this time set on an oil rig. This might be the extreme but it's the kind of slop that the marketing men go for.

[@deshawn4077]

David didn’t create the xenomorphs He made a version. Plus it has not been explained how the space jockey got eggs onto the ship on LV 426 and why there. Too big to be an engineer.

[@vando6679]

I think it was supposed to be an engineer. It had the same helmet/face mask and space suit that the engineer in prometheus put on. Search a comparison and it is pretty obvious that it is an engineer. Yes the size doesn't fit....just another plot hole those last 2 movies gave.

[@skatevidcentral]

I believe it was confirmed the Jockey = Engineer but for I guess practical purposes Ridley scaled down the size of the Engineers in Prometheus. Even within Alien the zoomed out view of them seeing the Jockey the scale of the creature is much larger than the shots of them inspecting it close up.

[@rampantrambling]

Romulus feels like the climax of the prequel trilogy all while having none of the same characters, it ties in the previous two films so well with Alien.

[@_YourFlyIsOpen]

It doesn’t, huh?

[@JazukaiX]

No, it feels like a piece is missing. You can use your imagination to fill in a few blanks but ultimately they don't connect.

[@reloadpsi]

Walter already broke the chain, yo. In defence of half the movies ending in an airlock yeet: that's the power of the Alien. You can't defeat it. You can only refuse to engage. You can only try to escape.

[@natesullivanw24]

Alien: Can you imagine the kind of nightmares that could’ve evolved out in deep space? Covenant: An angry robot made it

[@FullFatVideos]

An angry robot with great characterisation in a story rich with themes of creation free will and the core of what it means to be human

[@ovenden2k]

@@FullFatVideos He had great characterisation in Prometheus. In Covenant they just turned him into a moustache twirling mad scientist. Killing Shaw off screen between movies was a travesty.

[@user-pm2bh9ol8w]

David doesn't 'literally' create the xenomorphs. I rewatched recently and the film shows you that he see's a depiction of a xenomorph in the place in Prometheus. It's like how if you make spaghetti bolognaise, that's doesn't mean you 'created' it. That said, Covenant doesn a bad job explaining because I thought this first time around and really disliked the film for that to start with

[@tommyscott8511]

@@FullFatVideos Be that as it may, it's just less scary. Prometheus removes the cosmic horror of the Alien, which in many ways is the best part of the original movie.

[@vando6679]

​@@tommyscott8511 agreed!!

[@AlliWalker]

I also liked Covenant! My favorite scene in Romulus is when the alien emerges from the cocoon. Absolutely horrific. I love that they shot it using the same angles as the original Alien film.

[@geroffmilan3328]

Covenant & Prometheus were good films, if not seminal like Alien. But no-one will remember this film, it's just too banal.

[@kylel7158]

​@@geroffmilan3328I think it will be a good spring board now for better quality films within the universe - if anything, it still shows how popular this series really is

[@citizen3000]

@@kylel7158”the film is bad but we might get a better sequel” No, that’s not how this works. The success of this SLOP will only result in more slop.

[@kylel7158]

@@citizen3000 if it's true that Disney took over, you might be right unfortunately

[@jayday187]

That part was strange for me. It was a little too cool of an entrance so the spliced in footage where they're freaking out as this thing is getting out all slow and methodical made me think "damn Xeno's just casually dropping the hardest edit before he kills these fools"

[@damienburke4996]

Before Rook and Andy screwed up the naming convention there was Walter.

[@mdav4525]

Walter is the opposite of David in every way. So much so that the starting letter for Walter is 4 letters from the end of the alphabet, like D is for David and is 4 letters from the beginning. Can’t logically explain rook unless he’s supposed to be the opposite of bishop. And if this is correct, then Henricksen should’ve been reverse bishop.

[@Khultan]

You missed this, dude: Bjorn's malice towards Andy is all because Andy reminds him of how his mother was sacrificed by a synth in order to rescue a greater number of people versus a few.

[@callmev3531]

Which as the audience already knows, synthetics can be quite callous when it comes to sacrificing or exploiting others to suit their goals, wether they work for Weyland-Yutani or, in David's case, have their own agendas. Bishop, Andy and Call from Alien Resurrection are the only androids portrayed as truly benevolent, Bishop apparently never being ordered by the company to turn on the marines or Ripley, Call because she was made by other androids and designed with greater independence from Weyland-Yutani's will and Andy because he was damaged and reprogrammed to be Rain's brother. It is through Andy's "brother" programming coming into conflict with Rook's "science officer" programming that the film manages to explore both kinds of synthetics portrayed in the series, their capacity for "humanity", or at least personhood, as they are able to at least simulate having minds and emotions, as well as occasionally the capacity for virtue or immorality.

[@Khultan]

@@callmev3531 How do you feel about 790?

[@FullFatVideos]

I mentioned it in the video dude!

[@Khultan]

@@FullFatVideos You mentioned it much later, though.

[@callmev3531]

@@Khultan I'm not sure what that is in this context.

[@laceyh]

I think I might be the only die hard Alien fan in the world who actually liked a lot of the callbacks and didn't hate Rook in this movie lol. That said, I think it would have been fine if it had been literally anyone else, and I did see it in Dolby Cinemas, and I've heard that it looked much better in that setting than on other theater screens.

[@nastablook3568]

Finally someone I can agree with I thought the call backs were great it just shows the love for the franchise the director did an amazing job making a tense sci fi horror like the original it’s truly a breath of fresh air from some of the other films

[@gojifan7976]

Same here.

[@kylel7158]

Also, for people saying call backs break immersion, so what? This is a movie, made for entertainment and if it just breaks that immersion for a second, all good

[@madmax025]

totally agree, also think if rook was played by anyone else i think it would have changed the tone slightly, we all know ash and as soon as it was revealed i was like ooh this cant be good for them lol

[@citizen3000]

What an embarrassing thing to say. “I like being fed references like a baby”

[@Iamschusty]

Romulus was fantastic. One of the best alien movies to date for sure

[@rudra7615]

So glad they made Alien…alien again and not some creation David made. This is a great move

[@itsahostiletakeover]

I still to this day don't really get where this "David created THE xenomorphs" comes from. I always found Covenant to be pretty clear in its messaging (as well as their more lithe and streamlined look) that he was merely replicating and tweaking work that the Engineers had already done. The fact that all canon sources do not even refer to those seen in the movie as "Xenomorph species XX121" but as "Protomorphs" or "Praetomorphs" further seems to confirm he is not the creator of them, he just made his own version. 🤷‍♂️

[@rudra7615]

@@itsahostiletakeover it’s because the movies are prequels and appear to show the origin of the xenomorphs. It is easy to see how the regular would assume David appears to be creating them. In covenant he even uses Shaw to create eggs and then you see face huggers and David even watching his creation be born, so ofcourse it is easy to think that. Romulus just makes it clear the black goo is made from the face hugger.

[@tros_725]

​@@itsahostiletakeoverthats true, in that case just consider the avp movies canon so then david would only bring the xenomorphs from extinction

[@ARuiz-eu3hk]

​@@itsahostiletakeoverThen is just so dumb as hell that David so happen to create a very similar species with no prior knowledge of how the original alien looks like from the engineers if that factoid proven true. Just pure UTTER convenient coincidence? You can only use coincidence in a story for so long before it gets insanely dumb ass hell so fast and obviously lazy to hell.

[@itsahostiletakeover]

@@rudra7615 Which your final point just creates the other problem...how did Weyland-Yutani even make all of those facehuggers when the only genetic material they had was a fully grown xenomorph? Still prefer the idea of Ash just transmitting all of the data from his dissection to them via MUTHUR as he clearly had some access to it based on the special order as it would explain their "3D printing" of them. Somehow finding the Big Chap encased in a substance they're unfamiliar with and miraculously floating in the Nostromo debris field is a hard sell for me, especially since the Narcissus was NOT in the that area when it fired its thrusters at the Big Chap. There's vacuum in space, that sucker would still likely be drifting since there is no atmosphere to slow it conveniently into the debris field. Sorry, I can only suspend disbelief so much.

[@JurassicRod]

As soon as the silly prequels made the amazing Space Jockey design nothing more than a bald albino in a space suit I was out. Never mind the magic black goo that does whatever the writers want in any given scene and connecting the origins of humans, Xenos and Space Jockeys which not only shrinks the universe but makes Alien less alien.

[@citizen3000]

I hate all of that stuff. Let the mysterious stiff stay mysterious. Explore the future and not the past.

[@Marin_Huron]

So, you missed the 0IQ Covenant crew. I wish could have, too.

Criticising Alien Romulus but defending Alien Covenant does give me a full brain seizure :P

[@quicogil4565]

Covenant is much better!

[@ZadomCo]

Totally agree

[@CaptainMagmar]

I thought Alien Romulus was perfectly fine. Was it groundbreaking or insanely innovative? No, and it definitely dangled its nostalgia berries quite often, but most of those callbacks weren't exactly distracting to me, the late Ian Holm's appearance served the plot well and was more than just a glorified cameo, and the cinematography and practical effects were amazing with a genuinely terrifying ending. Even if it doesn't top the OG movies, it was a solid horror experience and I had a ton of fun watching it.

[@Shelf0808]

Exactly. It ranks high for me cause it kept the tension high, expanded the plot, and made full use of everything at it's disposal.

[@Ssakarix]

I think when it comes to the line callbacks for me as a casual alien fun (loved the original and covenant), alot of the callback lines seems normal enough for the characters to deliver them without breaking the fourth wall for me. Things like "i prefer artificial person", "i can't lie about your chances", and with prey "if it bleed we can kill it". These lines work within the story at the time they deliver them without feeling like an explicit call back to an older film and unless you watched those other film recently or are a super fan could be passed by without noticing. At least thats how i felt about those line, many i didn't even know were a callback until rewatching the older films after seeing romulus. But when it comes to "get away from her you bitch" it feels different, feels like breaking the fourth wall and winking at the camera, the delivery and the music are done in a way to be like "hey omg he just said that" and that line is iconic to the levels of "avengers assemble" in the alien universe . I feel like the bringing back of an old dead actor was a step too far and quite frankly unnecessarily. That robot could have been anyone. But overall it feels like the alien romulus movie was made by people who were genuinely fans of the alien franchise as a whole and added alot of the great elements from all over the franchise to make a great scifi horror alien movie. It's odd to me how people were offput my the young cast, maybe because I'm gen z. Like horror movies are often occupied by young people. Like i don't see the problem with evil dead but make it alien like that sounds great.

[@starlitstreet]

honestly I didn't remember the "I can't lie about your chances but you have my sympathy" line and it came off so completely natural to me that I didn't even realize it was a reference

[@Thedawg2604]

I never saw an aliem film before romolus amd the only line that felt out of place to me was the "get away from her you bitch" part, other then that all the lines felt natural

[@AshleyMaklin]

Agree with you about bringing Ian Holm back with CGI! I had totally forgotten about his character and spent the whole movie wondering why this one character was CGI for some reason, very immersion breaking

[@oliviawilliams6204]

In defence of Romulus blowing out of the airlock, this time there’s the twist that it basically get thorn to shreds by the rings

[@alexrodriguez9441]

Ash’s mission on the Nostromo was dependent on hiding his identity as a synthetic from the rest of the crew… but if he is a mass-produced model, like Rook (as in we see that there is at least more than one model built that looks like that and talks like that) then doesn’t it unnecessarily risk the crew finding out? Weyland Yutani has to invest in some level of training for it’s employees and contractors, so to recoup/justify that investment they would try to rehire the same personnel for multiple deployments among different crews on different ships. So if they see the same face over and over with different names and identities, it’ll eventually tip someone off that they have a synthetic on their crew. So why would the company risk that by Hiding ash on the crew of the Nostromo?

[@bigdiddyzp1762]

There's no reason for the space truckers to be informed of the secret science android, especially when said space truckers are incredibly unlikely to have experience with the same model. I'm pretty sure WY specifically orchestrated that specific crew to end up there anyway

[@TylerKingNuReview]

THANK YOU

[@ashblack8548]

This movie takes place about 20 years after alien. If Ash is the first one off the assembly line in alien it makes sense that he be more common in the following years. Think of it like the ps5. I had one launched day. However, i was fortunate. It didn't become widely available where you could walk into a store and get one off the shelf until like 2 or 3 years after release. Another way to look at it (i prefer my first thought here though)... the Ash model was in a WY research station. Both androids we see are on WY property. Are they commercially available? Would truckers see them? They go pick up and drop off cargo, they aren't roaming the science labs...

[@midnighter2k]

A prototype model at the time Ripley and crew went into the Nostromo. Thus a good perfect infiltrator. 20 years later, as any company would do to get even the tiniest of profit more, they make it a commercial android. Not to mention the Renessance is a top secret station. They can have an Ash model and the public would still be none the wiser. There, two easy explanations.

[@_YourFlyIsOpen]

@@midnighter2kBishops comments about Ash in Aliens does not imply that it was a prototype and that it was a twitchy model.

[@H2TK]

I feel like the death of the hybrid was pretty original. I mean floating in space there are only so many things you can do. But to be fair she had to disconect the cargo pod. More like cargo container thrown off the side of the boat into an ice burg from 1000 ft up rather than air lock ejection into deep space. The absolute silence once there was a breach was terrifying

[@bladethebeast2]

My girlfriend made a good point of they could have double dipped on the "get away from her, you bitch" line. In the beginning when the kids beat up andy, rain should have ran the kids off by saying "get away from him, you bitches" you get a twist on it and a reason for andy to say it later and give you the real one.

[@citizen3000]

“Get away from her you bitches” Wow yeah, great idea, some fantastic dialogue there. Jesus Christ.

[@baconjakin4442]

They actually already did this, but in a more subtle and clever way. Throughout the film, the asshole brit guy calls Andy a “bitch” several times, so when Andy says it at the end, it shows his character growing through experience in an interesting way.

[@bladethebeast2]

@@citizen3000your reading comprehension skills need improvement.

[@bladethebeast2]

@@baconjakin4442 too subtle also that dudes accent was too hard to really get what he was saying other than douch bag shit

[@mallninja9805]

I think they should have attempted to give Andy his own iconic line. A dad joke, even. "What's a Xenomorphs favorite drink? Gravi-tea..." Kinda stupid, and totally fits the character. Ripleys line in Aliens worked BECAUSE it was original, and it arose organically out of the story. As it was, David Jonsson might as well have looked directly into the camera and winked at the audience. Also, interesting choice of doubling down & claiming some other dude's reading comprehension is bad, as though he wasn't directly quoting & replying to what you wrote. Physician, heal thyself.

[@JasonHauser125]

It was...fine. But too safe. Too many callbacks (the bitch line was awful) and not enough new injected. I also liked Fassbender in the Prometheus movie, and this one didn't have any acting gravitas anywhere near that level.

[@justinbrooks9454]

Nah it wasnt bad everyone in my thearter both times liked it a little chucke and a few claps

[@joeschmoe3815]

It was complete trash.

[@geroffmilan3328]

Yeah it was totally unimaginative & very formulaic. I was ticking off events before they happened with far too much accuracy - I'm no savant. But there'll be more of the same, and it'll likely only get worse if audiences continue to turn up just because it's got the franchise badge on it. Not just this franchise, though. If the visual media industry (films, TV and gaming) stick with their pure terror at the thought of creating new IP, there is little hope for the future.

[@mallninja9805]

@@geroffmilan3328 I mean, it's Disney so we were practically guaranteed a mishmash of older / better films. I'm surprised it turned out as good as it is, and I have little doubt that Disney is going to interpret this success as "See, our recycling strategy works!" despite the past decade of flops...

[@giovannihernandez2236]

Nah I liked it

[@syntaxed2]

The good about Romulus was the editing and the script dialogue(not the ripoffs) - Events are not overlapping like in Prometheus/Covenant and the viewer has a chance to invest in a scene. But the movie itself felt like a family friendly teenage action movie due to the young cast not having enough experience to carry scenes - They need to get back to the roots of older cast + serious tone like Interstellar/Alien1979/Prometheus - A scifi drama with added action

[@Keithjmcc]

I would agree with you on the callbacks except they did a lot of deep cuts as well. That took homework.They also set most of them up so I’m gonna give them a break on that. Alien one, Romulus and aliens are my top 3. I would like to see David and Walter again though. I’m an old guy and I like what they did. Truly only complaint is how fast the aliens were conceived and matured. It was an issue, but I don’t see any way around it. Good video thanks.

[@MrMgkman13]

I don’t understand how actual Alien fans like Covenant. It literally makes the Alien less interesting in every way. I actively choose to ignore it. Alien was never about the creation of mankind, and it certainly wasn’t about the creation of the Xenomorphs. Alien works as a horror movie because it’s about the dangers of exploration. How you might not be prepared for the unknown. Having humanity be involved in the creation of the Xenomorphs takes away from that mystique. Prometheus doesn’t bother me lore wise, because it is its own thing mostly. I didn’t need the Space Jockey explained, but it doesn’t destroy the franchise to explain it. Covenant is unforgivable to me.

[@ThisIsYourGodNow]

you are an insufferable nerd and an enemy of art, and this is coming from someone who hates covenant

[@gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203]

You can be an alien fan and not worship the Xenomorph

[@nalday2534]

Probably because the actual fans are mature and not bunch of fragile nerds who have the mental capacity to differentiate between alien and Alien covenant and the fact that both films are aiming for different ideas and one doesn't have to be beholden to the other just because it's a classic or whatever. Grow up

[@mallninja9805]

@@nalday2534 Wow, no need for the hurt feelings. Calm down, bro.

[@nalday2534]

@@mallninja9805 you didn't say that to op(who clearly can't take an opinion), did you? How much is he paying for this

[@cruzerro3451]

My lil brother out loud in the theater said “ oh my god “ when he saw the last monster and we all laughed

[@whitemagus2000]

I liked Romulus. You are the first person I've ever heard from that liked Covenant. Ridley Scott screws his own time-line to say that the engineers are actually just a guy in a Scooby-Doo mask, and that's supposed to be deep/good? Or the galaxies dumbest colonists? Or the fassbender on fassbender erotica? If you are going to introduce a whole ship load of new questions, how about you answer a few of them?

[@gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203]

Wow you're really dumb

[@screamingeagles2670]

What? There wouldn't be any mystery if they were answering all the questions. I prefer questions, allows everyone to have their own theory of how. Rather not find out

[@ploptimusgrime332]

Pete Davidson vs the queen would be a remake of the 90s sketch where most of the male cast goes to the zoo. One by one, they keep jumping into the polar bear exhibit and dying off screen, while their deaths are described by surprised Norm MacDonald.

[@seafirend]

Seen bits and parts of the originals, the Andy “Get away from her…” scene worked very well without the baggage of knowing it’s a call back. People forget this is someone’s first Alien film.

[@nell0pe214]

Agreed, I didn't even clock that it was a callback and I've seen the first two Alien films :') I just enjoyed Romulus for what it was, rather than its place in the Alien canon, and it was great.

[@citizen3000]

It doesn’t work well at all even in the context of Romulus. It’s a really bad line from a bad script. It makes no sense.

[@citizen3000]

@@seafirend “people forget this is someone first Alien film” But the line isn’t in there for them. It’s literally just in there as a reference to the line from Aliens - a much, much, much better film where the line actually MAKES SENSE and is FUCKING COOL

[@hknil8966]

@@citizen3000 the line still applies to what happened in romulus lmao and it becomes cool when he unloads the rifle on the xenomorph

[@paul4000]

no…it’s trite, but I guess if it works for the swine, have your slop. The movie is great but the callbacks are trash.

[@precisecalibre6986]

It is chronologically impossible for David to have created the Xenomorph, regardless of what Ridley Scott says. At most, he created them as a reverse-engineering experiment based on Engineer research. AvP is not canon to this particular universe.

[@sidecharacter3193]

Exactly, Prometheus showed that they existed already so all David do is either perfect them or bring them back

[@sailormars3890]

The use of the synthetic being the same model of Ash works as Romulus happens in the 57 years that Ripley is floating in space in the end of Alien.

[@captainfach]

I know I already commented but I just want to say that it's so refreshing to hear somebody talk about how cool David is. I have always loved him so much but I've never actually heard of anybody else finding him as interesting as I do

[@andrewryan1825]

He is spot on at 12:30 with the point on music.

[@captainfach]

I think they did a good job killing the original alien off screen. If they put it in the movie they risked it taking away the spotlight from the other aliens and looking like a weaker version like what happened in predators and the predator

[@Seinsmelled]

my favorite moment in Alien Romulus was when Romulus told Alien "I am the Alien Romulus."

[@Anglicanism_go_brr_JLY]

“…and its morbin time”

[@custardgannet4836]

Yeah that part was pretty cool tbh.

[@citizen3000]

That’s better dialogue than anything in the actual film

[@montgomeryfortenberry]

It made me feel like an alien romulus

[@lucasjacks3594]

"And that's what's best for Rain"

[@jeremijakrstic1968]

Just watched it. It's better than Prometheus and Covenant combined. As a matter of fact, Prometheus and Covenant are the most shining example of what wasted opportunity is. They had money, fantastic crew, actors - they still fucked it up. They turned it into cinematic fast-food. If I was able to erase my own memories, I would definitely like to forget about the above-mentioned films. Anyway, Romulus gives me hope. Cailee Spaeny and David Jonsson give me hope. It would be nice to see them both in continuation.

[@heilong79]

Covernant was a big miss step and ruined the Alien universe worse than AvP.

[@imnotoriousnate]

I’ve been obsessed with Alien since a child man this is great

[@heis147]

I was such a blast, sure there were some eyerolling callbacks but it’s hard for me not to enjoy an Alien movie.

[@AlliWalker]

Yeah, I liked the movie and had so much fun. Getting rid of the "bitch" line would have improved it, though. It's just so jarring.

[@tgiacin435]

I liked them, it reminded me of the dark humor in alien 3. Like the guy looking in the vent while mopping the blood, or the 2 laughing about thinking they were the monster. I plan on seeing it again this weekend so I can analyze it more. Also i couldn’t be the only one thinking “save damn it” when I saw the emergency phones

[@tgiacin435]

@@AlliWalker maybe if the cut the “you bitch” line, but kept the “get away from her” part since Andy is programmed to protect Raines

[@Eldenbruh]

​@@tgiacin435was thinking that the SECOND he said the B word...i was like "nope, i get it...but just no"

[@KingSlimeIsJsJealous]

@@AlliWalkerhopefully if they make an extended cut or something they could fix that. They prob won’t but why not dream yk? Lol

[@theouterarrowhead]

Technically Covenant fucked up the android naming conventions for androids. But then again, Walter is the Opposite of David. So i guess it DOES make sense. It's possible no one in production knew about the android name rules...

[@lightningmonky7674]

13:54, did a Brit just do a British impression? 🤣🤣

[@CMDR_Verm]

As a long-time fan of the franchise (yes, I'm old enough to have seen the the original at the cinema on its release back in '79) I was very apprehensive about Romulus. When I saw Alien, all the cast were older than me, here they are all younger and, as anyone will tell you, everybody under 40 is stupid (sorry, Stewart Lee joke). To my surprise, I really enjoyed this movie. True, some of the spoken callbacks were a bit cheesy, but it was also stuffed with physical/visual callbacks too. Even the cans of beer were identical to those invented for Alien, ''Aspen Beer'' and kudos to any film maker who goes to such lengths. That's only one example. There are many, many more. Regarding the use of Ian Holm's likeness, I think you are being very short-sighted. Of course, you know Sir Ian Holm passed away not so long ago, as do I and anyone else who is interested, but you have to consider that this will not always be the case. The original film is now 45 years old and it is still held in high regard, people still watch it nowadays for the first time (if the KZbin ''reaction'' videos are to be trusted). If this film firmly enters the Alien pantheon, and I hope it does because it is that good, then it will also be watched many years from now when the passing of the late, great actor will not be recent history and therefore certain sections of the movie will not be criticised as they are currently. I, for one, enjoyed his return as an identical synthetic. It took me back. Please don't misunderstand my comment, I enjoyed your video immensely.

[@Violaphobia]

“I defend Alien: Covenant” Well… I’m glad I knew to turn this off at the beginning

[@FullFatVideos]

But you just had to comment

[@RedTheSniper]

Covenant and prometheus enjoyer here to support❤

[@xii22loop]

@31:21 Ridley Scott seems to hate the concept of the Queen, he might have had a hand in this...

[@vando6679]

True but we didn't get to see all of the hive on this space station. A queen may have been deeper in the hive. They didn't write it out completely.

[@randallbesch2424]

@@vando6679 a queen wasn't needed I think that was the other part of the mutation was the queen came about.

[@vando6679]

@@randallbesch2424 true a queen wasn't needed for the science research. But that doesn't necessarily mean a queen couldn't have developed.

[@empty_melodies]

Yesssss, musical callbacks over line callbacks all the way!

[@nicksantos43]

If Xenos can survive in space that means the Queen is still out there somewhere!

[@mallninja9805]

You've uncovered the premise for Alien: Remus...

[@Donovan_oryx924]

I doubt if eidley scott is still part of the movies. He hates the queen idea.

[@NotMorganFreeman.]

@@Donovan_oryx924 Ridley Scott's company Scott Free are the producers of this movie.

[@duran9664]

🚨Prometheus was & still is the BEST of ALL🤏

[@grappier5636]

In my honest opinion, the bad-cgi-Ash was actually amazing. His movements and exptessions were uncanny, and the way he was always watching the characters, communicating with them through the stations many monitors, reminded me a bit of the Master from the first Fallout game. Overall, looking at him, seeing his facial animations, always had me on the edge.

[@lshackelford4175]

I genuinely forgot that the line Andy said when he mag-dumped that xenomorph was a callback, it was executed well enough that I believed it was novel and authentic as part of the "do what's best for US" arc where Andy becomes more of his own person despite the downgrade. It felt like he found his inner T-1000 but still getting used to it. Phenomenal acting and delivery imo

[@DynamiteBlues]

Don't worry I like Alien Covenant as well

[@FullFatVideos]

Yessss

[@Dealerofdeath1998]

Too be honest i really expected it too be shit but its one of the best of the franchise it definitely delivered on the high stakes horror and it was one of my favourites along with the first and second one

[@Owen-zm6sq]

Anybody in favor of the line callbacks, please take a look at what this movie was clearly trying for and what it is. It's an R rated sci-fi horror film trying to invoke the atmosphere and feel of the first Alien and Alien Isolation. Doing MCU-tier referential dialogue completely throws any immersion or tone out of the wind in favor of a cheap laugh for nostalgia bait. Alien needs to take itself seriously again or it needs to go back into hibernation.

[@citizen3000]

It has no place in an alien film. It’s just bizarre to see people defending it, but it’s just a reflex for them.

[@NotMorganFreeman.]

@@citizen3000 Those are the same ones that have no investment in the series and might as well be watching a fast and furious movie.

[@zmcconnel]

Thank you for including that clip from AVP at 30:59 , one of the best action shots of a predator IMO, even though the movie wasn’t great overall.

[@TheOnlyMisterC]

"Shoot it out of the airlock, its the only way to be sure" This whole movie happened because that didn't work ahahah

[@FullFatVideos]

And then they do it again!!!

[@F5Save]

I really appreciate how charitable of a critique you gave the movie. Couldn't agree more with your points!

[@FullFatVideos]

Amazing, thanks for watching!

[@zbfq3813]

But if they could 3D print then face huggers 40 ish years before Aliens, why would they have to attempt to impregnate Ripley and Newt so hard?

[@jthomas6080]

Because you just watched their tech to grow them get destroyed in the rings of a planet.

[@zbfq3813]

@@jthomas6080 no urgency to get it right above their own planet? I know it was just coming in but I feel like it’s hard to believe the company wouldn’t have attempted to check it out before some teenagers got up there at the very least.

[@zbfq3813]

@@jthomas6080 and the biggest corporation in the world didn’t have any means to relay this information and these blueprints or ways to formulate this tech back to the company after spending so much on it? Just wish it was explained better and maybe it will be in the comic that’s coming but right now it’s hard for me to fall in love with this movie for that reason.

[@mallninja9805]

Burke seems to be pretty much acting on his own throughout the whole film. I could buy that he's a middle-manager type, totally unaware of what goes on in other parts of the company, who thinks he's stumbled onto something big. But I admit that's some serious retconning & the continuity of the Alien series is pretty broken

[@NotMorganFreeman.]

Because the writing is bad.

[@mixedbeatz16]

One of the few times I find myself disagreeing with most of your critiques but so glad youre chatting about it!

[@FullFatVideos]

That’s cool! I like that

[@lolglolblol]

I really like Prometheus, but I hated Covenant with a passion. In fact, I hated it because I liked Prometheus. I had just spent years defending that movie and the decisions its characters made just to feel like Ridley Scott himself spat in my face when he made the characters of Covenant make even bigger mistakes which could not be defended. In fact, the general unlikability and idiocy of the characters really turned me off of the movie. Though I won't pretend I like the lore either. In a vacuum, I really enjoy the lore of Prometheus and Covenant. It _should_ be right up my alley, in fact. But those movies do not exist in a vacuum. They tie into the Aliens franchise, which I hold dear. And while I was willing to entertain the ideas that Prometheus set up, I was already unhappy with some aspects. I did not like the Engineers' design, big humans are just so boring. Especially when you rewatch Alien (1979). That Space Jockey is _not_ what Prometheus tried to reveal it to be. But when Covenant came, I was disappointed. Most of the setups of Prometheus? Ignored. Shaw, who I really liked as a character and was interested in her journey? Died in between films. The motives of the Engineers? Still left unexplained and the ones that could have showed up? Again, died in between films. What are we left with? Unlikeable new characters and the implications that David created the Xenomorphs. Sure, the novelization tried to backpedal that last idea after negative fan feedback, but if you listen to Ridley Scott's interviews, it's clear that that was his intention. Preposterous. The ancient, unexplained ship crashed millenia ago in the edges of space, carrying lovecraftian horrors that could doom humanity purely by a twisted turn of uncaring fate that was shown in the original movie has now become unbearably intertwined with humanity. Now the ship belongs to our creators, who are in essence just big humans themselves. The strange pilot? Just fancy cockpit armor. The deadly cargo? Just an uppity robot's pet project. The ancient crash site, so old that the dead alien inside has become fossilized? Now the timeline can barely allow for the crash to have happened a few decades before it was found. And don't get me started on the goo. The god. damn. Black Goo. Plot Goo is what they should have called it. They couldn't decide on what it should do, so they just had it do everything they wanted. Who needs the xenomorphs when you can have an agent that aerosolizes and kills within instants and also mutates and parasitizes everything? The xenomorphs feel frankly inefficient now, since they need the facehuggers to infect a host. The neomorphs can just do it with some funky pollen! Sorry, I needed to get that off my chest. I liked Romulus, honestly. Most of the fan service was a bit much and I really did not care for the last act on their ship. But the movie also had fresh ideas I really enjoyed. Seeing zero G being utilized and the hot room scene with the facehuggers were great. I didn't care for the Black Goo being shown, for the aforementioned reasons and the xenos grew way too quickly to be believable. I would have liked learning more about what precisely happened on the station. And the fact that they somehow managed to retrieve the Big Chap from the inexplicably intact Nostromo and managed to make facehuggers from its DNA was ridiculously contrived. But honestly, I could ignore those cons and enjoy the movie. They were still noticable and definitely keep the movie from some kind of perfect score, but I mostly enjoyed what it was and I'll definitely rewatch it. I don't think I can say the same for Covenant.

[@gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203]

Lol you're a sheep

[@devokie]

bigchap after being blown out to space solidified itself in a cocoon showed at the very start of the movie and they used its dna to create the facehuggers

[@lolglolblol]

@@devokie Yeah, I got that. It's just extremely contrived. There's no way anyone could find a single xenomorphin the vast emptiness of space, especially since there's no way that this much debris is left of the Nostromo. That ship blew up like 3 times and the Big Chap was ejected after the shuttle had already travelled away from it a fair distance. As for making facehuggers just using the DNA, that's also dumb. I would have preferred if the Big Chap was alive for a while and made more eggs, either by eggmorphing or turning into a queen

[@custardgannet4836]

Yeah Covenant was the drizzling shits for sure. Id put it alongside Resurrection as the absolute worst of the series.

[@redsands1001]

I'm not a fan of prometheus or covenant, but your reasons for disliking covenant make a lot of sense.

[@captainfach]

Yes another Covenant enjoyer. I absolutely love David and he is now one of my favorite movie villains and I am so sad that we will probably never get to see his Trilogy end on screen

[@memedrift2521]

"Covenant was great" - I appreciate you putting that up front so I could just skip to the next video.

[@FullFatVideos]

I think it’s sad that you’re so proud to skip something because the opinion doesn’t 100% line up to yours and then you just have to comment it too lmao

[@watchmehope6560]

'I only listen to opinions that align with mine. No... I'm not a sheep in an echo chamber, you guys are'

[@worsethanhitlerpt.2539]

Yes like anyone who says they like Terminator: Salvation- Im outta there

[@ovenden2k]

@@FullFatVideos There's not lining up 100% and then there's unironically liking a movie which does everything it can to try and ruin both Prometheus and Alien at the same time. I've given Covenant 3 chances and each time I watch it, I find something new that makes me baffled it was ever filmed. Ridley Scott seemed to forget what made his own original movie work so well. I really wanted to like Covenant, truly I did. Starting your video with "I like Alien Covenant" pretty much signals to people that you don't understand what makes a good/bad script, especially when it comes to this franchise. That you're willing to overlook some of the most egregious mistakes and bad decisions ever put into a franchise movie. Why would a fan of the franchise bother watching another half an hour of your opinions afterwards?

[@Cyb3rFck]

I can't stand Prometheus or Covenant but everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Stop Gatekeeping based on your opinion.

[@lobaandrade7172]

I think not knowing that Rook was a returning character and instead thinking (like I did) that he was just another WY synthetic, really improved my enjoyment of the movie

[@zhaimorenn8273]

The "I can't lie about your chances" line I just put down to same model androids following similar lines of interaction in similar circumstances. The "Get away from her you bitch" line I actually liked specifically b/c it was executed with Andy's stutter. It's more than just a call back line also- it's calling back to that protective emotion which was key in both scenes

[@AJ-em2rb]

2:00 what i inferred from Covenant was not that David was the creator of the Xenomorph (it just doesn't work out logicistally unless he somehow took the colony ship to another Engineer plague ship and deposited his facehugger cysts there), but instead that David simply progressed a mutation that would always inevitably happen over a few generations of the Black Goo correcting the changes the Engineers made to it. My interpretation is that David only thinks he created something when really he just progressed what was already there. This is the only way i can think of that makes sense of the 6 (now 7) core Alien movies. basically Engineers tainted and warped the Black Goo for their own means, but that the Goo is self correcting over time much like how our own immune system will eject outside influences/invaders. the Xenomorphs are simply a step along that self-corrective path but tainted with Human genetics. The Deacons are the same but with Engineer genetics. at least that's how i see it, does that make sense? anyway, back to watching i go

[@turbofx4049]

You are the first person I've seen be positive with Covenant, but good for you king ❤

[@justinbrooks9454]

I dont know i loved it to me i think its the second best one

[@mattmccomas1]

​@@justinbrooks9454Wow

[@chrislugo5838]

I loved that they brought Ian holm back for this. It was awesome to see him in the film again!

[@julius-stark]

Overall I liked the movie, but my god, the last half is almost unbearable given how great the first half was. I would be totally okay with it if they re-edited the movie for the physical media release and just cut out the verbal references to the past movies at the very least.

[@adriandenton6637]

It's truly awful, there's nothing original in it, it's not scary, it has 2 scenes that are pretty much video game quests. The 2nd half is just a Disney rollercoaster ride that wants you to notice every easter egg and shout 'I recognize that'. I was looking forward to it ending. 3/10 for the Bladerunner beginning and visuals.

[@deficientartist8396]

@@adriandenton6637must suck to be in the minority, man I sure do love enjoying things!

[@adriandenton6637]

@@deficientartist8396 child

[@liveforthefuture]

@@adriandenton6637 man-child

[@giovannihernandez2236]

Nah it was great all throughout

[@MMartinVideo]

Just came from a packed Wednesday evening screening. Thought the film was fairly average, but good to see people turning up.

[@SmashBrosAssemble]

Say what you want about Disney, they’ve done a better job with both Alien & Predator than Fox did in its latter years IMO (Granted Prey should’ve got a theatrical release)

[@FullFatVideos]

I can’t say I completely agree, since I liked the alien prequels and whilst the predator was a stinker, Prey really shouldn’t have been dumped on streaming

[@SmashBrosAssemble]

@@FullFatVideos I understand the reasoning, The Predator was a bomb, but what they had was a banger that easily could’ve been a hit from word of mouth alone. At least Prey 2 & Badlands are seemingly going to be getting theatrical releases, especially given how well Romulus is doing.

[@idiopathictendencies8453]

Boo this man!

[@NotMorganFreeman.]

@@idiopathictendencies8453 Boo! No, Disney did not do a better job. They fuck up everything they touch.

[@ArroyoRiver]

If you are okay with Disney getting it’s disgusting hands on alien or predator then you’re absolutely genuinely a disgusting NPC of a human with no active respect for art.

[@natejones873]

The peep show “I am James Bond” took me BACK. I need to rewatch that amazing show

[@bchavez149]

Prey doesn't get a pass from me on the grounds that each movie seems to provide less and less intelligent Predators as they go on. 1 and 2 are close, both were defeated by what we would universally consider "Hardened" characters with skills that normal people don't possess, so why is it that each time we see a new Predator, it is outsmarted and killed by lesser and lesser qualified characters? Predators featured super Predators, shown to be stronger and smarter than normal Predators, but were still defeated by a soldier character. The Predator featured an even more super Predator, whom was defeated by, effectively, a child. Prey featured a, less equipped Predator, but was also beaten by, effectively, a child. These monsters make dumber and dumber mistakes and lose to lesser and lesser impressive opponents, why is a Predator a fearsome opponent if children could beat them?

[@kmsthanks]

I liked prey for the most part but the way she ended up killing him was like BRUH. They are not that brain dead, that was such an obvious trap/setup, and he still continued to fire his arrow. Definitely the dumbest predator yet lol

[@bchavez149]

@@kmsthanks Yeah, the movie overall wasn't bad, I just really don't like how they disrespect the Predators every time there's a new movie. They don't need to bring back a muscle man to kill it every time, but they also don't need to dumb them down enough to fall for the stupidest traps just to convince anyone that the main character could beat them. Poor writing and poor treatment of the Predator.

[@AlbinoBlackMonkey]

David is the best thing that's ever happened to this franchise and the thing I was most disappointed in that wasn't gonna be part of this movie.

[@rapidfire120]

Can’t trust the opinion of anyone that has an infinity gauntlet mounted in their room.

[@FullFatVideos]

“This video is appealing to a wider audience than usual”

[@idiopathictendencies8453]

😂

[@TheGreatVandoly]

I loved when he said the line while stuttering it. Made me laugh and I loved it.

[@LogiMoistudio]

I couldn't tell you a single line CGI deepfake Ian Holme said because I was so taken out of the movie, It kind of tainted the rest of my viewing. There's no reason to use dead people when the CGI monstrosity is giving a worse performance and the actors corpse could've. Nothing of what made any of the actors previous performances memorable is there except the face, and the face is scarier than any alien. No reason for it not to be another actor or even an evil version of Andy's model. He serves no purpose in the movie aside from ruining it

[@leejones8582]

David or a new character would have been better.

[@smartwater598]

Nah your bias as some who didn’t watch first alien it didn’t effect me at all that means it’s great standalone movie

[@Bwoodlyy]

@@smartwater598And me as someone who’s only seen Prometheus was completely taken out every single time he showed up. The execution could’ve been way better for both the movie and its optics. Actually terrible decisions were made all around even if you can excuse the actor being dead. It brought literally nothing to the movie with the way it was done.

[@NotMorganFreeman.]

Ash was a trojan horse sent with the crew of the nostromo and there was no reason why this one would have been the same model except more fan service. That's the real reason.

[@ellatino55]

The “fan service” take on ash are just fundamentally wrong. Having Ash model allowed the audience to already have certain expectations of his character and motivations. So now we are not worrying about if Rooke is evil or not and paying more attention to Andy and his demeanor. It’s efficient story telling used WELL!

[@SmashBrosAssemble]

After the garbage we’ve had over the past 20 years with Prometheus, Alien: Covenant, and AvP movies, i think this is really what we needed, a back to basics, while very much a greatest hits & the CG Ash model was ropey, it’s a solid entry that doesn’t outstay its welcome, has great production values, good set pieces, nasty gore & disturbing imagery, a terrific cast, it’s very easily the best Alien movie since the assembly cut of Alien 3.

[@jesserochon3103]

This movie was better than any version of A3. That movie was an abomination. Hot trash.

[@justinbrooks9454]

Hey the first avp was a cool fun time and tbh i think the avp lore for the xenomorph is better than the prometheous stuf

[@lensw0rld633]

Youve gotta be kidding me ​@jesserochon3103

[@mattmccomas1]

​@@justinbrooks9454Hahaha

[@SmashBrosAssemble]

@@justinbrooks9454 To each their own I guess. It’s cheap, uninteresting on a technical level & borderline incompetent in every way, badly edited, badly shot, your typical Paul W.S. Anderson affair, and it just doesn’t treat the title monsters with respect.

[@asherrfacee]

Best horror movie of the decade, had me on the edge of my seat the whole time

[@MostlyBuicks]

Prometheus and Covenant with all their faults were far more interesting than this POS movie.

[@citizen3000]

I actually hate both of those films but I would fully fully agree that they are MUCH more interesting than this. I didn’t like them at all but there was some interesting shit in there!

[@jaraket]

Ok, the Jez James Bond quote made this channel dearer to my heart.

[@leerhode1021]

Alien Romulus is supposed to have taken place after Alien but before Aliens, the Bishop synthetic person did not appear until Aliens. So it is quite easy to believe that the Ash model was in wide usage until they upgraded the android with the Bishop model. This is comparable to cars being upgraded and improved each year. So it really is mind boggling that so many people are in a snit about the use of the Ash model. If Ian Holm's family is okay with the use of his image, why is there even a discussion? Mr. Holm certainly won't complain, and it is fitting that he is remembered from the first film. Alien Romulus had several nice Easter Eggs that paid homage to the first two films. I know content creators have to critique, but sometimes it seems that they go overboard with their criticisms. Some content creators seem jaded, no matter how good a film can be, all that is focused on is the things they don't like. I guess it is hard to impossible to meet the movie halfway suspend one's disbelief and just go with the flow and enjoy it. I found the movie highly entertaining, and I ranked it up there with Alien & Aliens. Of course many will inevitably disagree, but that's fine. Its just the excess hypercriticality that is tiresome.

[@deepaknambisan3251]

Really enjoyed this review - one of the best I’ve seen on YT. Thank you! 🙏🏾

[@FullFatVideos]

Wow, thank you!

[@bingerz237]

I'm amazed at how many "fans" of the franchise enjoy being pandered to. The absolute state of Alien.

[@Dhampire1976]

Guarantee you aren't as much of a "fan" as the people you're crying,malding about even. Oh wait,you're lost. Reddit was two floors down the right 😂😂😂

[@bingerz237]

@@Dhampire1976 Ok consoomer, stay coping and sneeding

[@maxrobins4282]

​@21Handguns See the problem is by ripping scenes and lines they failed to put their own stamp on it. So in effect it just became a greatest hits album played by a cover band.

[@Donkehy-puncharello]

Tell us "fans" you didn't watch the movie without telling us.

[@citizen3000]

Really shocking, isn’t it? I mean, fuck me. How embarrassing!

[@redscreenhorror]

Glad you rate Covenant. Stay frosty, comrade.

[@FullFatVideos]

Always!

[@lightningmonky7674]

All due respect I think the hybrid was one of the worst parts, it was done already in 4 and felt like further unwanted fan service, it especially didn't help that I hated 4 and would rather not see anything copied from that film

[@NotMorganFreeman.]

Preach brother!

[@lightningmonky7674]

@@NotMorganFreeman. Thanks man, people don't talk enough about how bad 3 and 4 actually were.