Heretic Movie Explained (SPOILERS)

[@canadianinvinciblecomics2255]

I don’t believe sister Barnes uses the plank of wood. I think it’s the final. Manifestation of sister Paxton’s who ends up dying. The butterfly appearing and then disappearing and the light shinning bright in the background of the last scene is what brings it home for me.

[@HecticLlama]

That’s how I saw it too

[@LUMBEEPHENOM2012]

Oohhhhhh I never thought of that I like it 👌

[@acuanette]

I also think there are no survivors in this story. It’s all a tragedy in the end.

[@wickedlittleleo9218]

Exactly!! The same way she said the prophet was having a hallucination.. So my thought is she was actually entering death. The last scene with the wood, and the butterfly was exactly that. The transformation of the mind into the dying phase

[@wickedlittleleo9218]

Also when the heck has anyone ever seen a butterfly in the cold snow

[@Anthonyag42]

Grant deserves an Oscar for this film.

[@freedomisfromtruth]

More so then Mickey Blue Eyes, say it aint so

[@nahhhbruhhh]

An Oscar?? Lmaoo no

[@Anthonyag42]

@@nahhhbruhhh I mean it really demonstrates his range this movie.

[@JTonyArts]

Don’t be mean.

[@jitonie]

This is a GREAT movie but the ending kinda ruined it. Its okay but they could have done it better. Show don’t tell but the movie is kinda explaining a lot of things to us.

[@RelaxjocelinEnjoy]

My take away from the movie is that religion as an institution is not real and it’s a deception to make money it’s a marketing scam. But beliefs and hopes are objective. Whether you believe or don’t both are real to each individual because people make their own realities. And I agree with this🤝

[@jimbaker5110]

Good point.

[@kol2456]

May I interest you in my own expansion on a similar interpretation? As you said, we each see our own realities. In the ending, Mr. Reed could only see the selfish aspects of religion, while sister Paxton could only see the selfless aspects. Praying for her attacker was a perfect example of the meekness we mormons are taught as kids. When the selfless and meek continuously give into the controlling and selfish among us, they are merely churned up in a system designed only to collect and control more and more people and wealth. If we stand up against the most controlling aspects of our religion, what we are left with is the other side of the "true religion" coin. Control of others Self-sacrifice. As hard as it is to see both sides of a coin at once, it is even more difficult to see control and even abuse as anything but love when they've confused the two for you your whole life. Few people who haven't been a cult member before will pick up on some of the following, I suspect: Mr. Reed's ability to behave as if everything is totally ok and normal while sitting in a room with a fresh corpse perfectly embodies how we LDS just grin and play along when presented the more culty parts of our religion. When I hear a member explain how one of Joseph Smith's many flaws actually strengthened their testimony of the prophet, it can feel like someone casually or even excitedly telling you the corpse in the room isn't a red flag. Sister Paxton did something similar while bearing her pornographically inspired testimony. You can say the most bizzarre things with a believing tone/take-away and go unquestioned in most LDS Sunday schools. I heard an elder give a nearly identicle testimony about pornography while serving on my mission. Whenever he shared his experience of struggling with a pornography addiction he would testify to seeing "every bit of joy and the light of Christ leave her eyes", referring to a porn actress. This movie is uncannily accurate in it's portrayal of LDS missionaries in my opinion. A very difficult task. When you're not a part of an in-group, it's nearly impossible to mimic the subtle signals we use to identify our own. Heretic contains the most true depiction of my people in any piece of media, including church produced. I left the church this year. Before that, I wouldn't have even allowed myself to watch a review of this movie. But now, it feels like it depicts so much of my specific journey out of organized religion. This film is the purest gold in my eyes. I absolutely love it. Edit: I do think Topher Grace's character needed some more time in the oven though. Thankfully there wasn't much of him.

[@tomjarjar9524]

You were the target audience of this film, unfortunately for you.

[@GearZNet]

One could say that about your religion. Unfortunately for you. ​@@tomjarjar9524

[@kweenadafool]

​​@@tomjarjar9524you clearly have an opinion tom, have it. Share with the class

[@Karibee61]

Saw Heretic yesterday. Brilliant film. Script and production fabulous. Grant was extremely entertaining.

[@seanfoudy8829]

In the movie, it’s striking how the two Mormon missionaries reveal a depth and intelligence that the villain overlooked. Their faith drives them to acts of courage, while his to acts of cruelty. A thoughtful take on how beliefs shape behavior-sometimes in surprising ways.

[@Mehki227]

Yeah, sure they walked into a grown man's house and took his word for it that his wife was there without question that's what faith gets you; that's why it's called faith/instead of using common sense and healthy skepticism. Their faith got them dead. I choose critical thinking and healthy skepticism over faith any day!

[@jenniferle3085]

omg i love that!!!!!!

[@Bigbluedome]

@@Mehki227it’s why Ted Bundy was able to prey so heavily on the Mormon community in Utah so easily. Religion opens people up to trust without thinking. “Oh Ted is a member, he is safe.” Stop being sheep people. Wake up and start thinking.

[@bugr33d0_hunter8]

​@@Bigbluedometed bumdy in utah. Didnt think of that. I read his book to stranger in the night. Good one. ..

[@MFLimited]

@@Bigbluedome better to be an innocent sheep than a piece of garbage.

[@acuanette]

I really liked your take on why the butterfly was used as symbolism for reincarnation. It also goes to show that Sister Paxton was young, and as a young person, you may be influenced to believe and think a certain way but she was enamored with non traditional ideas in which she found beauty, comfort, solace and hope. The behaviors of Barnes and Paxton also reflect the reflective intelligence that many youth under organized religion represent when they are willing to think outside the box where in they’ve been influenced to believe in.

[@AfroGaz71]

Or was sister Barnes resurrection nothing more than an hallucination of a woman passing, and her trust in prayer easing that passing? Sister Barnes earlier explains the phenomena of near death experience from a scientific perspective. I liked this movie for the multiple interpretations that can be put forth...Much like religion when I think about it.

[@Latiumvox]

Yes.. she did die, the butterfly at the end was the clue.

[@paulburton5150]

…and the fact that her phone, when thrown outside, still had no signal. Why show that? Because the phone was in reality still in the basement, as was she.

[@MFLimited]

The way Sister Barnes explains a scientific near death experience is nothing like what Sister Paxton experiences. Nothing. So we have to decide for ourselves. Considering the last words of Sister Paxton, that the power of prayer is non existent but that she thought it was nice that we pray for each other. In the end she just thought her way was superior, rather than his choice of cruelty. She chose innocence. Which is beautiful on its own. But what happened was that she was rescued through violence; either a temporarily resurrected woman, or one that wasn’t quite dead yet. Paxton escaped and, therefore, would be able to save all of the other women. This was normal final girls stuff until the, unseasonal, butterfly lands on her hand. Is it a sign that she’s dreaming it all? Or is it God, restoring her faith?

[@AfroGaz71]

@@MFLimited I think it's a contradiction to say the near death explanation was nothing like Sister Barnes described, and then thatwe have to decide for ourselves what the ending means. Sister Paxton's prayer at the end could induce a more positive final hallucination. For me it had a "Jacobs Ladder" vibe to it, but I fully understand how others could get a completely different interpretation. Every one of the post death hypothesis explored in the movie could be interpreted at the end. None of them line up exactly with any of the beliefs explored. That was the whole point of the movie's ending. IMO, It also breaks away from the final girl trope, as most of Sister Paxtons moves were predicted, and her demise obviously makes that trope irrelevant. But, I see how it could be seen that way.

[@kweenadafool]

​@@AfroGaz71exactly. "contradictory to popular beliefs and notions of established religious norms or customs" - heresy

[@olamideiledare5233]

Are you serious right now. My man shared the gospel and spoiled a movie at the same. I am here for it 😊

[@SpacePirate3000]

Yeah he spewed a bunch of religious garbage and wasted minutes he should have been talking about the movie. Also all the info in this is disingenuous. Eg. There are so many more religions christianity ripped off than just Horus. The entire Bible is a compilation of stories, more than half of it is literally the "old" testament, old meaning the Jewish torah. Christianity blatantly stole the Jewish holy book. It's all lies.

[@lq6424]

Oh my god. Mormons again, full of themselves.

[@juliemayhwang4469]

❤🌳

[@juliemayhwang4469]

🎾😔🌸

[@juliemayhwang4469]

He’s my father

[@christopherflux6254]

It’s a cross between the Saw movies and The Book Of Mormon musical 🤣

[@HecticLlama]

Haha yes!

[@crystalblue8182]

When the girls referenced south park 😂

[@bphifer]

That plank of wood had three nails. A nail through each of Jesus’ hands and one through the feet. Representing self sacrifice so that others can live.

[@bithplease1779]

Also the Holy Trinity. 6 is a perverse inverse of that number and the three nails are used to dispatch the villain finally.

[@ObsessiveGeek]

Jesus is held up by rope, not nails. Please watch The Passion of Christ to get a fuller scope of the sacrifice. Reducing it to simply three undermines the extent of forgiveness and the full power it can hold

[@MFLimited]

@@ObsessiveGeek John 20:24-25 so the Gospel of John reports wounds in the risen Jesus's hands. But, you’re saying to watch a Hollywood movie for accuracy on the crucifixion? No, I’m going to go with the Bible instead, OK?

[@MFLimited]

Yes, the three nails of the crucifixion, the holy Trinity and the three books of monotheism (the Abrahamic religions). .. also the Hollies, Radiohead and Lana Del Rey. 😅 jk

[@ObsessiveGeek]

@@MFLimited WOUNDS are not nails. The details of crucifixion are actually quite well known as it is a known historical punishment. I was pointing to that movie, which is incredibly accurate to what is known and as well as what is stated in the Bible as a source of understanding the full extent of the sacrifice. As I very clearly stated, reducing that to simply three is incredibly shallow just so it can fit into some metaphorical symbolism - the reality is deep enough without the need to add or find other meaning behind it.

[@heavenly5523]

Great review and analysis of this movie and let me add that you have a very soothing and beautifully haunting voice I feel you would be amazing voicing audio books

[@fitybux4664]

Voicing audio books is a dead art kind of thing.... You must not have heard of this thing we have now called AI.

[@ryanc4185]

Expert analysis, you earned my sub. I would also add that the blueberry pie candle as a part of the simulation that tricked their senses into thinking a certain thing (that his wife was cooking a pie). If that fooled them, then what else is capturing your attention but is actually a shadow of Plato's allegorical cave? 😶

[@freedomisfromtruth]

Once she saw the candle she knew something was up

[@jliu3991]

I have a strange interpretation of the ending, not sure if it makes sense. How I saw it is that Sister Paxton did die when she was praying, then she saw the butterfly, and when the butterfly disappeared it meant that she was brought back to life (assuming that the church elder maybe came back, ambulance, etc).

[@kel2880]

I interpreted that she was hallucinating it, and she thought that the butterfly was sister barnes. like how barnes mentioned earlier in the movie that when you're close to death you start seeing things. I think sister paxton probably took it as a sign that barnes was showing her that the god is real & giving her hope by landing on her fingertips. Then also how sister paxton said that even though we know prayer doesn't work, it's still beautiful that we do it anyway. So I think the message is that it doesn't matter if the butterfly was really sister barnes's spirit or just a hallucination because it meant everything to sister paxton in that moment and either she died with relief & love in her heart, or it gave her enough hope to keep her alive until help arrived.

[@stellabrown909]

She was dead? I was trying to make sense of the cell phone too.

[@acuanette]

@@stellabrown909they weren’t able to use their cellphones inside the house because of the metal he had inside the walls to cut off signal access. The last scene just shows that the cell phone regained signal when she escaped but not much more I feel.

[@blondebomber-qo2uy]

Remember when he talked about the butterfly dreaming he was a man or the man dreaming he was a butterfly? I felt there was a connection with that seemingly important statement and the very end but I'm not smart enough to make the connection

[@MFLimited]

The way Sister Barnes explains a scientific near death experience is nothing like what Sister Paxton experiences. Nothing. So we have to decide for ourselves. Considering the last words of Sister Paxton, that the power of prayer is non existent but that she thought it was nice that we pray for each other. In the end she just thought her way was superior, rather than his choice of cruelty. She chose innocence. Which is beautiful on its own. But what happened was that she was rescued through violence; either a temporarily resurrected woman, or one that wasn’t quite dead yet. Paxton escaped and, therefore, would be able to save all of the other women. This was normal final girls stuff until the, unseasonal, butterfly lands on her hand. Is it a sign that she’s dreaming it all? Or is it God, restoring her faith? I like to think it’s God . But her mobile phone says otherwise…. but, if she could imagine escaping, I don’t see why she couldn’t imagine her phone working.

[@missthea5259]

You didn't mention that Sister Barnes was resurrected in order to save the sins of man. ie her friend whose faith was wavering.

[@evasirova3985]

Was she though? That's just your interpretation. Another interpretation is she wasn't quite dead yet. And that's what's great about this movie - it won't give you answers, it won't tell you what to think

[@missthea5259]

@evasirova3985 I'm speaking in relation to the religious aspect of the crucifixion which is explicitly discussed in the video. Clearly this makes sense as opposed to the regular horror trope of her not really being dead. But yes, yours is also a viable interpretation, although in the context of the subject matter it would seem rather out of context. Plus who survives after bleeding out from a slit throat. Come on now!

[@pervertesacker7131]

@@missthea5259 I think now you are heavily interpreting... The movie is quite clear in its ambiguity. It leaves it blatantly open for viewers to make their own truth. The whole point of the film is, that it solely depends on YOUR perspective on faith whether you believe a thing is a miracle or not. And on the slit throat part: It heavily depends on how deep the cut is and whether the artery is completely severed or just punctuated and also whether the windpipe is cut as well or not. If the cut isn't too deep and the windpipe intact it can take quite some time to faint and even longer to bleed out, even hours. The filmmakers make sure to show us just a very short cut and some bleeding, so it's absolutely in the realm of possibility that she just passed out and died later. Or that it was a miracle. Again: Whether you choose to believe one or the other comes down to you, no one else.

[@missthea5259]

@pervertesacker7131 I'm speaking in metaphorical terms. This seems to not be getting through. This whole video commentary is metaphorical so I went with that tone in my comment. I am not a religious person. My comment is in keeping with the film's themes. So yes you're right. It's an inerpretarion. As is EVERYTHING the video exposites. Re the throat....from the way the blood spilled onto her hands, I think we can safely see that it was not a s shallow cut. And no, here I'm definitely not being metaphorical. I think it's just a.bad/misleading shot which eliminates the subtlety the film is trying to convey. Bleeding at that rate, where is she getting the strength so long afterwards to pick up a plank of wood, aim, and hit with such strength? It's so weird the way subtlety is so willfully understood in online commentary. And finally...we all all HEAVILY interpreting here. That's what this whole conversation is about. You're absolutely right... mine is an interpretation. We can agree on that. I'm just rather unsure as to why you're so heavily invested in 'disproving' a mere interpretation though. 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@bugr33d0_hunter8]

It seems this way, paxton prays and all of a sudden barnes comes to, saving her friend. In the same way today, God uses his (active force)ho,y spirit along with myriads of angels to help righteous hearted individuals, especially in the spreading message of his coming kingdom . ❤ love your videos. Keep up the great work.

[@janechoy2073]

Moral of the story: don't go into strangers house; change the settings of where you do these recruitment talks.

[@fitybux4664]

That's kind of the entire point though. These religious folks who go door to door are trying to catch people off guard, in their place of comfort, and prey on them.

[@glengarryglenross7127]

How did he plan for the doorbell to ring just after the prophet had eaten the pie?

[@JLocker]

I thought the same thing.

[@Isitmthrfckr]

Is he not a diety?

[@JuanMPalacio]

He had a hidden timer for the lights and locks, so maybe he had a timer or button for the doorbell?

[@glengarryglenross7127]

​@JuanMPalacio no there was definitely someone at the door

[@JuanMPalacio]

@@glengarryglenross7127 Yes, but he could have also had one, which he then didn’t use after the Mormon guy rang.

[@swannix]

Wow this was a very thorough and well researched review. Not sure of your background but you do seem to have quite a grasp on the idea of comparitive religions

[@melonthemelons]

Loved this. Actually added depth and interesting points to the story instead of forcing out a meaning. Found myself relating so much to barnes. Great analysis without being too preachy 👍

[@vardo3343]

14:29-14:35 is a bar. Really loved this analysis! Need to watch more your vids 🔥

[@jenniferle3085]

this is the best best analysis of the film i’ve seen yet!! thank you!!!!

[@BlasianLynn]

The christian god is not a god i would want to serve. At age 10 i remember thinking “wow this guy is a total jerk. Poor jesus” I rock with jesus. Hes cool. Hes the original rebel. And OG hippie.

[@ZayneEnterprizes]

You realize the Christian God is Jesus right? He’s neither a jerk or a “cool rebel” He preached that if your eye causes you to sin gouge it out because it’s better to enter Heaven with 1 eye than Hell with both. [among other things] Unfortunately I think like many of us you’ve heard a watered down “iteration” of Jesus & not the historical & biblical one. But if you think he’s cool I encourage you to actually learn about who He was, what He lived for & what He died for. It will change your life if you let it

[@nonamemcgillicutty9585]

Holy hell u don't know the basic gospel 💀

[@ZayneEnterprizes]

@ so tell him

[@bugr33d0_hunter8]

I thought the christian god was yahweh, and Jesus his only begotten son? ....

[@ZayneEnterprizes]

@ the Christian God, the God of the Bible, aka the one true living God & creator of the universe and you is Yahweh - “I AM” if you read the Bible you’ll come to the conclusion The Father is Yahweh The Son is Yahweh The Holy Spirit is Yahweh. All uncreated eternal - God But the Son is not the Father, The Father is not The Spirit etc. this is something only God can reveal. Pray for wisdom for He gives to all that ask. But do not doubt for those who doubt receive nothing & are unstable in all they do

[@Isitmthrfckr]

In that vein, Mr Reed/Read reps the danger of a sort of sociopathic, academic, pragmatic exploration of doubt that leads to cruelty because it’s completely divorced of love, empathy, and true benign mysticism. Also his jumper is a “coat of many colours”.

[@gabylepoivre]

wow, what a beautiful voice

[@edwardwalsh2766]

It's perfect for listening to while going to sleep!

[@ScreamingBanchie]

I thought the movie was pretty one-sided so I thought it was lame. They made the missionaries come off as naïve and unprepared. Not to mention, the opening scene was of them sitting on a bench talking about porn and they had a bunch of kids pulled down the missionaries skirt. That was totally unnecessary.

[@mahmoudhabib95]

Amazing analysis! Now I love the film even more.

[@rikkikeen1859]

Excellent, thought provoking movie and analysis.

[@jackbarry7155]

Man, I really love your review here! * And gotta give it to your sleeping house-mate, your soft voice during this whole thing is beautiful. You might wanna consider using it for other pieces you do. Seriously fit the mood for this one. Anyway, I subscribed to you, and I will watch your “Tell-Tale Heart” short film that you mentioned. I really loved “HERETIC”, way more than I expected. Your take on it here enriched it even more for me. Cheers, Good Sir.

[@carolynwalsham3777]

Great review and lovely voice ❤. Saw the film last night and loved it!

[@Im_straight-t4d]

That was wonderful Thomas. The segment at the end where you describe the influence of the Crucifixion upon the ordinary man and woman, reminds me of how the Rabbi, Jacob Libermann converted to Catholicism. He said to himself, "What a wonderful religion that must be, where a God sacrifices Himself for His creatures!". C.S. Lewis became a Protestant via the 'Christianity is the ultimate myth' argument, but...that is not a solid foundation for any religion. Jesus Christ was a historical person, not a myth.

[@johngleue]

One small aspect about the nails that you missed is that there are three of them in the shape of a triangle representing the holy trinity. Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The imagery of "Three Nails and a Cross" also embodies the triumph of good over evil, so the plank of wood with three nails being used as the tool to save Paxton's life by a sacrificial Barnes could also double as reference to this common belief amongst Christians.

[@waynegoddard4065]

You earned a subscriber. Well done you. Nice video.

[@PolloConArroz290]

Good video for lunch break, saving it for later💪🏾💯🔥

[@michael-sl9rw]

Hugh showed he was into witchcraft that was his religion Figurine of kali and the witchcraft symbols at the end where he kept the women

[@GoddessFirstClass2882]

I ❤your explanations of movies, big fan here ❤

[@darthlaurel]

Excellent review and thank you.

[@schylerlanders7566]

haha everyone’s interpretation of the ending is making me feel stupid. I just assumed the butterfly fly was sister Barnes . Yes, it was sister Paxton’s idea of coming back as one but remember when he mixed them up at the beginning. There has to be a meaning for that right.

[@bithplease1779]

You can interpret it in many ways - you have faith in your interpretation or are open to others interpretations.

[@bugr33d0_hunter8]

Billions of interpretations, but there can only be one way an event takes place, one truth. So how do we find it? Or have you already...

[@kweenadafool]

To me it said "believe what you want" with a view to saying "if it works out for you then it's the right belief" Good movie, helps people that don't usually question their beliefs to start down that road and seek out what they truly believe and why

[@ThiaJetNeYu]

I have been wanting to see this movie but wanted to know about it first with spoilers and all. On my quest I found your channel and am here for all of it!!! Liked Subscribed and HOOKED!!!

[@yitingwang9846]

well done, well done. I had the same question post the movie.. it's still so open ended, despite the whole movie explaining the point on control. and exactly, if it's about that, there is no need for such an elaborate story!

[@EmpowermentEmpress]

Great analysis! As a spiritualist who believes in the power of I AM and the teachings of Neville Goddard… Sister Paxton manifested in her imagination her ability to transform as she did in the end in to what I believe was her reflection as the butterfly. She is/was god. Goddard lifts the imagination as this powerful tool for manifesting. He teaches to experience the end (of that desired outcome) as the beginning. As this relates to sister Paxton she was able to feel through her imagination the sense of her own divinity and ability to serve as a spirit guide to everyone she loves by landing on their hand…as she stated in the beginning so beautifully and candidly. Whether she’s dead or alive in the end, I believe that she had experienced her own reflection as a butterfly literally or symbolically signifying her freedom and ability to manifest her vision. The power of her belief in prayer was exemplified in the scene when she so peacefully settled into prayer during what could have been the most horrifying time of her final moments. In this moment I am compelled to this prayer she so gracefully exemplified: Peace be still and know that I AM… I know very little about the Bible but I know that we can access divine intelligence that is truly free infinite and powerful. The divine in its I intelligence found a way to send yet another omen to me by way of this movie as I believe many of our experiences provide daily.. so I dare to say that “Heretic” is Prophetic!

[@bugr33d0_hunter8]

I am ? You are what?

[@EmpowermentEmpress]

@ you mean who? The Empowerment Empress!

[@bugr33d0_hunter8]

@@EmpowermentEmpress oh cool 😎 learning is wonderful.

[@EmpowermentEmpress]

@ I AM is you too- if you believe 😁

[@MarySchuh3369]

Best. Review. Ever. ❤ Thank you! I really enjoyed your analysis!

[@ThorogoodFilms]

Ah thank you very much!

[@samuelgard9971]

What a fantastic review

[@TheJmister99]

great analysis mate. subscribed 👍

[@theandresricardo]

awesome review but wish the background music wasn’t as loud

[@fullspectrumgeek5925]

I hope you do one for Frailty. That movie messed me up. I definitely questioned what I thought I was prepared for.

[@5burned5]

Also possibly symbolism of the board itself… 3 nails, the holy trinity ?

[@fitybux4664]

What if Mr. Reed just nailed things together like this because triangles make a stronger formation?

[@STAY._.473]

I swear I would not be able to survive this movie which is legitimately scary 😨

[@s.m.strassburg2269]

Such an insightful and great review!

[@fukyutu]

Are you saying Mister Reed? Or Mystery? Say it out loud. Mr. Reed, mystery

[@bugr33d0_hunter8]

@fukyutu you nailed it!!!! 😂

[@fitybux4664]

Why not Mister Ree then? Too obvious?

[@Tip_Top]

Watched this yesterday. Hugh Grant was excellent. I was gripped!

[@RuthRodriguez-zb2in]

doors? there were doors in IT

[@Mr.Mrs.BeeRescue]

Excellent analysis

[@milestones140]

How the hell did you see this and spoil it so early

[@yoknapatawpha]

It's already out in the UK.

[@09kenedy]

I’m happy he did because I was going to watch it lol.

[@milestones140]

@ you’re not now?

[@09kenedy]

@@milestones140 sorry I meant to type was not. I am to scary to actually watch horror films but I can’t handle the review of them.

[@JuliusTurner-hm6ff]

Dude this ain't even scary like people think.

[@GB-vs3uw]

Great video, Thomas.

[@justdado_]

I went to see it on the last showtime they had and it was a slow burn. I wasn’t expecting it to be this intense depth. I left the theater more confused than scared. I liked the movie it just wasn’t what I thought going in

[@SolisSolaris]

Plot hole is that I think the LDS would have sent 2 men to Mr. Reed, not 2 women.

[@lemueljr1496]

I was a Mormon sister missionary. All missionaries are assigned to areas with strict boundaries and did not often compete for territory unless we came across Spanish speakers, in which case we would pass those referrals along to Spanish speaking missionaries, who might be male or female. I have taken referrals for single men and absolutely taught lessons on the front porch in the freezing cold because there was no woman at home.

[@SolisSolaris]

@@lemueljr1496 oh how interesting! Thank you for educating me, sincerely. You must be tough to weather that kind of cold. 🥶

[@lemueljr1496]

@@SolisSolaris I was in the southern US, so the cold could've been worse, but I'd take the dry snowy cold of Utah for a few hours than the humid rainy cold of Louisiana for ten minutes any day.

[@syfields8154]

Missionaries aren't "tough", they're brainwashed Mormons.

[@DANTICVS]

Thank you. I enjoyed this movie but it also disturbed me. Thanks for the perspective

[@samreenasyed123]

What's the music you used for this the guitar?

[@samreenasyed123]

'Anomalous Hedges' by The Mini Vandals for anyone still wondering it was in his description

[@ThorogoodFilms]

Well done, sorry was just about to reply to this!

[@PlasmaKong2]

Interesting analysis but the background music is too loud which is distracting and making it hard to hear what you say

[@nihilist4184]

Why would anyone but a serial killer request religious people into their home to speak about their faith.?!

[@syfields8154]

Millions of victims are sucked into the dangerous Mormon cult by these street recruiters. If one ever approaches you... RUN!!!

[@LukeSevere]

What a great review!! Me and my friend just saw this movie and I was struggling to articulate what I found so thought provoking about it, and this was perfect. I also like that you included your Christian beliefs in the video ✝️ Christ is King

[@Antdevamp]

The sound of the Spoilers were great, despite the roommate and their issues.

[@yaboiahmon]

Great review. I just watched the movie. I would say I am more religious than most and I do believe she survived and got out. Her phone switched from saying no signal to a regular background inticating signal was back on. The butterfly on her hand and it disappearing could be proof of a beautiful afterlife. Bc Mr. Reed asked the other girl if she ever saw proof of her dad trying to reach out to her. The butterfly and the girl coming back to life to save her could be proof. I think everything Mr. Reed did and said was deceptive and literally wrong. Comparing all religions as interations, lighting a pie scented candle, tricking the girls into witnessing a ressurection. I also think he is ultimately wrong at the end too. God saved the girl when she prayed and her friend was the butterfly. She is alive.

[@stellabrown909]

I like such movies…..they make you think. I liked it a lot. Everything was a symbolism of control? Right?

[@rasalasblack]

The crucifixion was not in Egyptian myths, but it is part of the Qur'an. Almost all old major myths and religions have a "flooding" myth in their tales.

[@saywhat83]

My man here in 15 minutes goes from cinema to the gospel and to Taoism...awesome insights

[@ericcouch]

Fantastic analysis.

[@gbdchannel2252]

You're wrong about Egypt. In fact, it was Osiris who was resurrected by Isis. Horus? Where did that come from? Get your facts straight.

[@robmckay5421]

Mr Reed is a wolf in sheep's clothing. Beware of wolves.

[@UKSponge360]

Just came back from watching this, and I thought it was really good, best film i've seen in the cinema for a while now. I was expecting a fairly "standard" religious horror movie, maybe a creature or something prehaps but it was far more compelling than that I think. (I'm a strong atheist so i respectfully disagree with your final thoughts of course)

[@CAL2ski]

The Mormon church will give statements on projects they feel represent the church’s views in an unfair light, and this has not had any statements given, which to me further proves how much this movie is one of true care for the interpretations of religion

[@ryan25bb]

I just saw this movie yesterday. I think Im going have to see it again to get a better understanding of the movie. Alot of cross themes

[@personanongrata987]

I watched this movie yesterday in Yuma, and it stuck with me afterward while I went shopping for household goods. Then, in the parking lot, it suddenly struck me that Mr. Reed is a polygamist, which ties in to things he'd said to the two Sisters about their church's history. --

[@happyhappy6794]

The window looks like a benzene ring. 6 carbons….

[@melvinjames1077]

Sounds like a soul searching puzzle ! I’m a simple man i need nothing to cause any doubt in my belief it took me a long time to just have faith so i think ill skip this movie

[@bugr33d0_hunter8]

Good man ❤

[@syfields8154]

EXACTLY! If you have doubts about God ir the afterlife, DON'T see this sick movie. Its producers are Mormons, who are masters of Spiritual Confusion.

[@leonhunter1839]

A deep DEEP Review. .....................SUBSCRIBED.

[@btprange]

Great voice!

[@MFLimited]

Thank you for the excellent video. I loved this movie but was disappointed that the true religion was control. It could just as easily be the reality of life. There is control within religion. But, also politics, government, law, kingdom, empire, everything in the world is about being controlled by something and somebody. There are rules, laws, and punishment everywhere. For people who live in countries, like the UK, religion is a choice. A freedom. Exactly unlike the law. I wasn’t impressed that the fake Horace thing was in the film, because a lot of people are going to go around quoting that now, never bothering to look it up. I liked the overwhelming fact that, real or not, following the way of Jesus is superior to the choice of evil and makes for a better, beautiful, world.

[@shaunyewest908]

I really enjoyed the film up until the third half of the movie. I feel like they didn’t have a solid idea on how to have a twist and how end the movie

[@neb5828]

This guy is literally Jeremy wade bro

[@ZayneEnterprizes]

I’d love to see a video diving deeper into the flawed arguments He uses & also a more fleshed out true gospel presentation [not mormonism]

[@Amy-iz8vq]

The earliest version of law comes from religious dogma does that mean laws aren't real as well ?

[@Amy-iz8vq]

Also, morality comes from religion as well does that mean morality is also a way to control human being ?

[@fitybux4664]

Laws aren't tangible. That doesn't mean they can't be enforced, we enforce a lot of intangible things. Define what you mean by "real" first. Do they serve a purpose? Yes.

[@nBasedAce]

You're right, Egyptology doesn't disprove the existence of Jesus. The complete lack of any and all evidence of him does.❤

[@fitybux4664]

Religious folks don't get the "it borrows some elements" and instead think: "It's not true, it's slightly different!!!" 😆

[@jerzirhayzza7166]

With all those wef ghouls crying and lying about carbon and eliminating it--Carbon is #6 on the Periodic Table. I love coincidences, I'm a little bit of a dork like that, but this one hit differently.

[@jerzirhayzza7166]

8:54 - I thought that was David Bowie for a second. ha ha

[@StrictlyJdN]

Can you explain why at 3:20 the video is flipped from the movie. Why is it edit that way?

[@ero0senin100]

Copyright most likely

[@naiquannasharp1993]

You sir. This video are a theological debate. We don’t have the will power not to watch a review of a movie that’s not even in theatres😫😫😫😫

[@bobberkins6058]

(Healing + 50) Tx you! :)

[@JPH0922]

I just watched this movie, I needed subtitles.

[@nickwhigham6348]

Its hard as a Christian because,mr reeds complaints about mormons are true, but he is also wrong about orthodox Christianity and the gospel

[@LivinNexus]

The director of the film isn't Scott Derrickson?

[@nonamemcgillicutty9585]

Im glad u saw the same movie as me... Most religion sets u free, its politics that is control

[@menajee94]

Great job ! God bless

[@beau__]

It was far from a discussion. It was pretty one sided if you ask me.

[@robert7lee]

Great movie with very interesting concepts. You still have to think about the fact every religion is man made and men are so badly flawed how can anyone believe messages passed down from a time any modern science is back then would be deemed a miracle. Think about this; a lot of people are in born into religion and don't get a choice of what to believe.

[@brandondooley6251]

Amen brother couldn’t agree more

[@STAY._.473]

I think that in the butterfly scene sister Paxton dies. And maybe it can even be said that Sister Barns defeating Mr. Reed (Mr. Read lol) wasn’t real. But I suppose that begs the question of was Sister Barns even real when she was killed. In that scene he says that her implant is a tracking device but Sister Paxton says it’s birth control. So essentially the movie plays on the themes of belief, control, agency, transcendence and the afterlife which is kinda up in the air at this point. But yeah anyways thanks for coming to my TED talk everyone. 😊

[@GoodEggGuy]

Too loud on the music but otherwise nicely done.

[@Cantdanceforreal]

Better call sal

[@tituspannell6009]

1 Corinthians 6:19-20, which says, "You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies

[@marini11]

They got you controlled, didn't you see the movie or video?

[@tituspannell6009]

@@marini11 The Devil is using some strong reverse psychology on you. Psalm 14:1, “The fool says in his heart, 'There is no God.' They are corrupt, and their actions are evil; not one of them does good!”

[@mandyclark6602]

Oh dear....you drank the Koolaide......didn’t you? Keep it to yourself, it’s sad you are so controlled and don’t have enough freedom within your mind to see the ludicrousness of believing in a made up devil to control the masses. Believe what you want, but don’t preach your “fantasies” on the of us and expect to be taken seriously

[@marini11]

@@tituspannell6009 you're not even using your own words and thoughts, just what someone else wrote like 5000 years ago. Time to evolve.

[@tituspannell6009]

@marini11 READ God's word. Matthew 25 and Revelation. Then look at the News Reports if you can't see the obvious prophesies coming true then you're blind. How would the Bible be able to prophecy that Israel will be a nation again, when there has never been a people who lost there land and language for over a thousand years and came back to reclaim it all. Also, they have always been God's chosen people. Can you explain that, becuase self fulfilling prophecy is impossible with that one. It must be a real prophecy. It must be God.

[@direktive4]

'christianity is the one religion that isn't about control' - depends on the denomination

[@kathyorourke9273]

The inquisition wasn’t control? The crusades weren’t control? Hahahaha! How about the Puritans?

[@KSchorrWriter]

Christianity, at least in America, is all about control. - ending gay marriage, banning abortion, shunning everyone who doesn't think God is real. It is the very essence of control.

[@nahhhbruhhh]

… umm lol no

[@direktive4]

@@kathyorourke9273 hey i agree, i simply quoted the person who made this video and said not quite so. The inquisition was catholic btw.

[@kathyorourke9273]

@ catholic is Christianity