Extremely Suspicious Button, Do Not Press - Talos Principle 2

The Talos Principle 2 Part 8 - I find a button in the woods. It's outside the normal puzzle zones, and I need something to hold it down. What is the meaning of this?
Edited by: Dan White and Ben Ranger
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[@KingMako30]

The swapping pedestal mechanic resembles mechanisms that were already possible. Such as having a light-gate opened only by a pressure plate on the locked side. Or a fan powered by a pressure plate in a sealed area. However, the first example is broken by jammers, and the second example needs a specifically designed large area. The pedestal enables this to be reliable, easily placed anywhere, and blatantly obvious to the player. Making this mechanic an actual puzzle device, seems like a method of reducing clutter in complicated puzzles, and a tutorial to cement this mechanic as obvious to the player.

[@holomatic1549]

Bleh, I feel like this "new mechanic" only makes you backtrack a lot more for no reason other than to fill in an unconnected button; doubles the amount of steps without providing any meaningful depth than not being able to use something you otherwise always were able to.

[@shrunker684]

@@holomatic1549 i feel like thats just an issue with the game in general. There is too much "tutorial" and "easy" puzzles thats supposed to introduce a not-so-exciting new mechanic. Good puzzles just feels so few and far between. They definitely could've cooked a better puzzle with this swapper, but there is just so few puzzle slots

[@Scuuurbs]

@@holomatic1549 “backtracking” bro most puzzles are barely the size of a small house lol. It’s like the OP says - it condenses a mechanic that already existed, streamlines it, and allows more puzzle elements to utilize it.

[@zenithrium]

iI didn't think about the pedestal like this - that's a good point. i like that

[@KingMako30]

Ah, small nitpick on my own comment: when I mentioned "a tutorial to cement this mechanic as obvious to the player", I meant the pedestal itself is the tutorial. For the devs to have actually made more than 1 tutorial puzzle for the swap pedestal, was redundant. For any player to have a dedicated recognition of the locked gate mechanism (or equivalent) as being its own unique puzzle piece, and think about it as a single object when doing the puzzle in their head? That would require excessively many tutorials, and they might never even simplify it in their own head down to being just 1 object. But having the pedestal exist as its own device? Instantly memorized by the player in the intended way.

[@Scuuurbs]

30:50 I’m kinda glad Tyler managed to find something to escape a level with. He’s right that what he did was harder than simply solving a puzzle… because the intended solution for that flame was just around the corner between some rocks 😂 he would have been so disappointed if he had found that before taking an item outside a level.

[@diskont9605]

Which also means that some puzzles can have multiple solutions, which is quite good imo

[@JamesTDG]

It does mean one thing though, Tyler needs to set a challenge for himself to figure out how to smuggle as many items outside a level as it is possible.

[@Nikola_M]

I did that for the Pandora star. To be specific: I got the converter from puzzle 4, put it on the leg of the structure needed for the Prometheus star (which was very janky due to the slope), then used it to connect a green beam from the southern triangle level (The one Aliensrock did first) to level 3 and then to Pandora.

[@Silvergrooves42]

I'm also happy because I managed to sneak in (and solve) the golden puzzle of this area using a box that I got out of a level as well. (Though it didn't register the solve since the puzzle was inactive but oh well)

[@Zeckenschwarm]

I hated this area because the deer kept jumpscaring me... 😅

[@demetriajones3231]

womp womp

[@E.EE.]

womp womp

[@owenreyneke]

womp womp

[@lourdespachla6516]

Womp womp womp

[@enderguardian7443]

womp womp womp wooomp

[@totally_not_a_possumlmao254]

Can’t wait for a “The Looker” (the parody of the witness) equivalent for The Talos Principle

[@mattymerr701]

The Diogenes Principle

[@davisdf3064]

@@mattymerr701 That one is a masterpiece, you just live in the streets and enjoy life with whatever you have

[@mangouschase]

the talos parable

[@misirtere9836]

See the difference is that The Talos Principle doesn't deserve to be made fun of

[@dreamerofthorns]

The White-Gold Concordant

[@TheHonestL1ar]

I just noticed at 11:20 that the icons on the screen not only show you what targets you've selected, but also whether or not the item you're holding can see the targets when placed down where you're looking. It's very subtle, but quite clever.

[@Linvael]

When playing the game it's not truly subtle, it's not something you miss out on - but Tyler doesn't generally show fiddling with angles that would make you notice it in viewing, and it does nicely fit in the UI without calling too much attention to itself

[@goldenirie]

Wtf I've completed most of the game without noticing that dammit

[@christopherg2347]

2:10 I think this new mechanic "only" simplifies puzzle design and solution. The concept of having to swap out things is as old as world 1. But it is getting too complex to set up and memorize where everything is and what can be swapped with what. A dedicated swap mechanic makes it easier to "tie up" pieces, without having to design a dungeon where a box can replace only a specfic relay/jammer/driller.

[@PlanetShroom576]

This game’s art and puzzle style are better then anything else I’ve seen, I’ve been loving to see you figure these puzzles out, keep up the good work!

[@thegoat9219]

"I don't think we can pass moral judgement on an entire species based on the decisions of a handful of leaders" is such a good sentence 11:52

[@TwoTailedGamerYT]

Is it just me? Or do those little statues/structures that appear every time Tyler completes a puzzle look a lot like one of them connectors? Could that be an indication of something in the future? I also noticed in the previous “World” when Tyler mentioned the giant structure looked like a mine he was introduced to the Converter! Coincidence?…I think not

[@Scuuurbs]

The statues are miniatures of the larger main structure for the area the puzzle is in.

[@jort93z]

It just looks like the tower in the area. The one he tries to climb at 24:55.

[@gisopolis77]

@@Scuuurbs yeah but maybe the larger structures themselves are modeled after puzzle elements

[@Scuuurbs]

@@gisopolis77 some of them definitely seem to be, for sure. Most of them appear to only be aesthetically pleasing structures, however. I think in the game Athena (or maybe Miranda) mentions building them that way specifically to inspire imagination and wonder.

[@IsaacAnvilreign]

Imagine if they connect into one XXL meta-puzzle.

[@sirguymaner]

My favorite series atm. Love it Tyler, keep it up

[@xXxXx-----xXxXx]

same

[@CountryMozart]

Your answer for the overworld puzzle was much better than the intended solution. Thank you

[@urkerab]

There's an intended solution?

[@CountryMozart]

There is an object in the overworld near it that can be used. But it feels out of place for the game.@@urkerab

[@kylemorris5338]

I suspect that was some obscure serious sam reference, like the first game had. Not played much of those game tho, so I don't know for sure.

[@SegoliaFlak]

@@kylemorris5338 It's the pseudo-mascot for devolver digital (the game's publisher) "Volvy"

[@tarrotdactyl]

I think the swapper very much acts as a puzzle "simplifier" rather than more complex. I would imagine it allows for similar puzzles to be made using a lot less parts/gates/steps that take up more space

[@thegloatingstorm8323]

I feel like Tyler really slept on the swapper mechanic at first. Limiting you to X active components out of Y means you gotta be able to really milk ‘em for all they’re worth and only swap when necessary

[@himura-miki]

Yes, more Talos Principle! Love to see it.

[@raphaelfrey9061]

This game is really good, there arent many which combine puzzles, lore and philosophy in such a way.

[@jeremilewandowski9279]

Please don't stop this series, becouse of views, we love it!

[@snotrod7]

Tyler, you’re my turkey this thanksgiving

[@iateyourcrush4774]

Incredible

[@Scuuurbs]

Really? He’s my stuffing.

[@FrankApelledalph]

This thread is very weird, I feel like I get what you all mean, but missing something else.

[@RWF51411]

the flames that you found are flames of Prometheus and two flames can be found in each of the puzzle areas, you can uses the flames to bypass a puzzle by interacting with the flame shaped terminal that can be found near the entrance of any puzzle

[@fluffy_tail4365]

Tyler is so good at illustrating what he's thinking in this game

[@Maker0824]

I was shocked from the last livestream when I learned this series wasn’t preforming well. it’s one of the best. I get why Frostpunk didn’t do well, but this game?

[@gnavidude]

It's possible people are playing the game? I'm going to watch this series once I fully beat it to see Tyler's reactions.

[@mrmosaic7996]

I feel like it diverges from usual style of Tyler's videos somehow. It's 3D, it's an open world and it's long video. Feels different to the usual 2D repetitive videos that can be mentally cut into small parts. I felt some kind of resistance starting watching but was hooked on the story of all things.

[@LeLe-pm2pr]

longer videos probably means less wiewer retention, and maybe a lower click-through rate too

[@stfuplease1051]

I just hope it wont have the same fate as the first game

[@BaconNuke]

@@gnavidude I hope this is the reason, like Tyler is good at puzzle games so maybe some of us are getting the game and are getting stumped longer than Tyler seems to be, like honestly past few puzzle games I have bought were because saw Tyler play them

[@justinlami9573]

Wow, crazy to think Tyler got this far into it before finding his first flame. I'm working on the golden doors and I think I have 15 or 16 now. It's also strange to see him have 0 issues where I got confused, but get confused where I had 0 issues. Overall, super happy to play this sequel.

[@omegahaxors9-11]

The game: "Too much progress is bad, too little progress is bad" Me: "The opposite of progress is congress"

[@omegahaxors9-11]

@@piotrbojkoff At the rate we're going it's going to be neofeudalism :(

[@craigwhite1202]

Yay more talos . Love your videos you make every day better .

[@SeriousApache]

The way you solve the second flame puzzle, well let's just say there was much simpler solution.

[@electrocubic5116]

But tbh Tyler's solution is way more cooler!

[@johnarinehart]

Hope this series continues, I like it a lot

[@Meto_50]

Things you can say when meeting Athena: Found 'er ^^

[@demetriajones3231]

The opening gates seems interesting, can't wait to see how that'll be used

[@SpopySpider]

Tyler just stealing an object to press the button instead of finding the easter egg fills me with dread. I didn't even thought of the possibility of stealing something from a level. I wonder if the devs intended that flame to have 2 solutions

[@Paelmoon]

"I wonder if theirs more of those that I missed?" FORESHADOWING lmao

[@jacobkopolovich2864]

Happy thanksgiving!

[@Grapes-nk2vk]

Happy Thanksgiving to you, too!

[@Ceramet]

love this game

[@adamclarke6709]

I really really really want a Baba-style meta world with more difficult puzzles for this game

[@DC-xc2wf]

Ben's Comments: There's one special gimmick that unites all Talos Principle puzzles, and that's item management. The Swappers exemplefy this property of puzzles by only allowing a few tools to be used at any time, forcing 1k to think carefully about which tools he needs to get the job done.

[@themakers6600]

they already have swappers, this is just a more compact version. just make a blue door and button behind it that opens it such that the only way to enter or exit is if an item is left behind. and place it out of the way so you cant use connectors from inside

[@CaTastrophy427]

Jammers tho

[@themakers6600]

Indestructible iron doors*

[@trollhimforever]

There's always a temptation to press random buttons, press that button

[@bartolhrg7609]

28:05 maybe there's a bicycle

[@tobadiahstane]

Every time Tyler says “no matter” I picture him as Prince Humperdinck

[@mrmosaic7996]

I thought I would totally hate the puzzles in 3D like this. The "puzzle MMO" Tyler played looked hideous to me. I was wrong, this game is aesthetically pleasant somehow

[@chbou1313]

Yes I absolutely love this series

[@nagliskisielius3643]

I have a suspicion that the end of the game there will be a desicion of which "human" you agree with, because all of them have diffrent interests, or something like that.

[@BaconNuke]

I have a random theory that somehow 1K is some kinda reincarnation of Athena and some choice will be either prepare New Jerusalem to be the next New Alexandria (I think that is where the puzzles are I forget) and start the cycle anew (ie people wondered "how Athena built all this by herself" but I think she obviously had help) or just end the cycle and try to just.. live and see what happens

[@F3XT]

the low views in this video make me scared, backpack hero and talos principle have been so good but the views are not great, hope you still post them, it's so so good

[@F3XT]

the baba is you small video might be a reason for the low views too mb? idk

[@timinigi]

I love this series, I even started watching your first Talos Principle gameplay now, but I was unable to find all the parts or streams. Where can I find them? Thank you!

[@stelaras22]

Hope you keep the series as episodes and not as live streams.

[@ronanh.9261]

YES ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS.

[@myclamish]

I'm on the 2nd desert map and I feel like the puzzles get easier and easier... and like not because I'm getting more efficient or anything the solutions just seem to become more and more obvious with more mechanics for some reason... Maybe that'll change in the last area?

[@nexinex6049]

last area becomes clever tricks but basically one or two step puzzles. Only one stumped me for a minute, because of the very little amount of elements it's insanely easy, there's only like 3 things to do just the answers a bit harder to spot

[@Scuuurbs]

I just finished south and the area in general seemed easier, but I still had a lot of fun. It’s good to see them play around with these new mechanics, and I’m hoping they make a DLC that really pushes these puzzle concepts to their limit

[@nexinex6049]

@@Scuuurbs you play road to ghenna?

[@Scuuurbs]

@@nexinex6049 yessss, loved it

[@nexinex6049]

@@Scuuurbs it was weirdly not tooo hard for me. Some star puzzles were annoying but I never rly got stuck.

[@Mylesthemonster]

PLAY THE NEW GOLDEN IDOL DLC -> Golden Idol Mysteries: The Lemurian Vampire

[@sinom]

This was my least favourite world when first going through it. Though now in retrospective it isn't aaaaas bad

[@exiledtobronze8694]

Tyler please put out more. I want Talos 2 so bad. I yern for our next engagement.

[@RodrigoTheHappyDog]

I tried beating this game in a single sitting, and oh boy was that a mistake. By this point I was pretty tired, and I absolutely hated this mechanic because these puzzles were where I started to actually struggle.

[@SuperMarioOddity]

Each large tower thing in the region resembles one of the parts, the one introduced in that region

[@kevinpo3999]

There's a much easier way to activate the button, right behind it there is and old toy that you can interact with and it will move onto the button, I never broke any objects out of puzzles

[@LoLeDieKnoLLe]

I suggedt you look at the 2nd flame again (please) I was looking forward to see you get it the intended way :D

[@gregcalvin4337]

> [S] Tyler: Ascend 24:52

[@Zyra-Not-The-LOL-One]

i can’t escape the homestuck

[@aceathor]

The most difficult puzzle game that I know is filament.

[@Z3rgatul]

Puzzle 7 from this area was the last puzzle I solved before going into golden puzzles. And I had to use youtube (for the first time), my brain just stuck in the wrong direction...

[@gabrielnobreketter3808]

RGB converter is just an inverter that needs green light, change my mind 😂

[@tazmingetgood280]

Oh Aliensrock, that wws no deer, it was another bicycle

[@SamLabbato]

crazy to think you're barely halfway through the game now. This game has a ton of content

[@Mostwanted12435]

Will someone let Tyler know. To press that button, there is something within the surrounding area? Didn’t take long for me to find. Honestly though. Watching Tyler get the box stuck on the wall was pretty funny

[@Zyra-Not-The-LOL-One]

Why do you. Type like this?

[@Absbor]

that deer ran when it saw ya

[@VivBrodock]

I mean the swap pedastle is no different then like a door being activated by a button and needing to bring items in to switch out what is on the button. something the game does, a lot.

[@dreamerofthorns]

Does Tyler not know that taming a wild horse is called breaking them or did his joke go way over my head? >-

[@GreatLordOz]

This mechanic felt a lot weaker than the rest of them since you were basically already doing item swaps throughout the whole game.

[@arunchennuru]

Happy Thanksgiving! Gobble gobble 🦃

[@llsilvertail561]

Ohoho. Exciting

[@bot24032]

Can we expect videos on the new poly bridge 3 world? Also, the daily right now is about you and RCE, so maybe you want to see that

[@owlman145]

If you connect an red/blue inverter to a green, does it just fail? Just wondering.

[@LeLe-pm2pr]

yes

[@juggernaut93]

SPOILER . . . . . . . . . . . . I think there is a puzzle towards the end of the game that uses this mechanic, if I remember correctly

[@demetriajones3231]

Did you not see the previous video

[@benniboi7231]

Watching one of the livestreams, don't remember which. You said you might have to compress this into a livestream bc the views were quite poor. Not here to protest but I'm really enjoying this series, do you know how soon that livestream's gonna be? trying to set up my schedule to accomodate.

[@theWastedSpace13]

Oh dear!

[@ummmyeah8458]

18:59 this one took me forever 😅

[@ummmyeah8458]

This area in general was rough for me

[@Nvargas31]

Rip Volvy

[@travishignight9827]

is it just me or did this super structure look like a connecter thingy

[@D4rKSUN1]

i am at minute 2:10 and i have to say... that swap mechanich looks like it will be annoying as heck Hope i am wrong

[@rojandyyyyyyyyy]

12:55 god dammit

[@Angel33Demon666]

Yeshhhh Talos

[@bobbyjohn7225]

Funnily enough your solution to getting an item out of the puzzle was cheese. Right next to it in the bushes is an item you can interact with that will move over to the button

[@mysteriousgrimreaper]

Swapped swapper swapper swapper Junior double triple swapper

[@nightcraftam]

Have u played Sandy's great escape?

[@NEU_Mars]

Video 12 of asking Aliensrock to play Void Stranger

[@KYO297]

Yeah... That one's my least favourite mechanic

[@jansen24]

Hey Tyler.. when will there be more poly bridge?

[@xaviersavard6343]

Idk what to say but themalgorithm loves comments so hi

[@egg-1863]

Hi Tyler❤ Dont know if your American but Happy Thanksgiving

[@garden6520]

Okay why does Icely and Aliensrock uploaded a video about the same thing?

[@jessehunter362]

wooo!

[@000Dragon50000]

What happens when you Inverter Green, anyway?

[@Zyra-Not-The-LOL-One]

Absolutely nothing

[@000Dragon50000]

@@Zyra-Not-The-LOL-OneThat's disappointing. I know a fourth colour would make a LOT of things a LOT more complicated, but also that's cool.

[@ศิขริณ]

I don't whatderstand

[@griffinhunter3206]

mfw i am beating my path

[@GarrettHoward22]

Day 1142 of telling Tyler that he never finished his minecraft series and that he should finish it. Happy Thanksgiving to all my fellow Americans

[@embers_falling]

Happy belated thanksgiving. Noticed you missed a couple days (either that or the comments aren’t there). Glad to see that you’re still at it bud

[@GarrettHoward22]

@@embers_falling i haven't missed a day in quite some time. Its likely that the system flagged it as like a bot comment and hid it at the very very bottom of the comment section. Whats days specifically do you think are missing, I can go and check them

[@embers_falling]

@@GarrettHoward22 after quadruple checking, the videos I thought were missed, the comments were suddenly there. I’m either really unobservant, or KZbin hid them lol. My bad tho

[@GarrettHoward22]

@@embers_falling all good mate, like I said, youtube comment bot sometimes thinks I'm a bot and puts them like dead last in comment sections

[@dominikrosiak339]

Day 4 season 2 (45) of asking Tyler to play mindustry.

[@calebshipitz2891]

First

[@harryb9494]

and?

[@calebshipitz2891]

And that’s pretty cool

[@dankelmo8732]

​@@calebshipitz2891fair

[@tizzimah7374]

Goddammit, this is a good game.

[@demetriajones3231]

🤡

[@randomperson53255]

Seventh

[@aarontrevett9260]

second

[@GAR13947]

day 92