4:32 Pokes 13:05 Punishes 28:24 Destruction Form 34:34 Heat 43:09 Combos 50:32 Other Key Moves 56:25 Wall Tech
@Dredgen-Dyl4 ай бұрын
Ur goated
@FrameWhisperer4 ай бұрын
Damn, thanks!
@xbgsheikiii35934 ай бұрын
@@FrameWhispererbro i need a video on her ff4 just frame i don’t understand the timing
@flemin9k3 ай бұрын
what was the imput for getting chainsaw out while flying without attacking i know you can with 1plus 2
@xbgsheikiii35933 ай бұрын
@@flemin9k during heat it’s f1+4 Otherwise it’s d1+2 or during certain move it’s f3 or f4
@Skizzy034 ай бұрын
Tekken the only fighting game I’ve ever played where a “starter guide” video is an hour long
@FrameWhisperer4 ай бұрын
That's the beauty of it I guess
@lucrypto81144 ай бұрын
You should try Guilty Gear then, the guide would be probably a 6 month course.
@ZawaOnYoutube4 ай бұрын
Ain't no beauty about that. Cannot wait for this game to get a Dustloop equivalent. Tekken community is so behind the times.
@MagisterJohn4 ай бұрын
😂
@Maggotbone4 ай бұрын
That's because this guide isn't good. It's not only way more information than anyone can retain, but also way more than any beginner needs.
@nickkiller-07104 ай бұрын
I remember watching your T7 Alisa guide back in the day so this is oddly nostalgic, I don't even play Tekken anymore but I still watch your stuff lol
@deelyons44004 ай бұрын
You should comeback this is shaping up to be a good one
@sleepyjoe45294 ай бұрын
Tekken 8 is amazing. You def need to come back
@pandapoo50024 ай бұрын
Tekken 8 - BUY BUY BUY - Alisa is awesome this time around.
@jakefitzgerald52874 ай бұрын
15:01 😢😢@@deelyons4400
@mylinuxstruggle54954 ай бұрын
Tekken 8 to good and cross platform.
@AxeMain4 ай бұрын
Alisa visually looks awesome. So far, Jun feels the best in my hands, so I'm looking forward to any guides on her.
@AIKnowYou4 ай бұрын
I'm a noob, and I haven't really tried many characters, but Alisa is satisfying to play.
@albedo50374 ай бұрын
Great video! I picked up a lot of useful information. A few things I found that might be helpful: 20:10 After f3,2 you can do b1+2(powercrush) and you'll get 50 dmg instead of 47, but the new string is wall carry 21:05 the second hit of hopkick is safer than the first (I believe it was the other way around in T7) so make sure to always do both kicks 22:15 b4 is extremely useful in some situations as you mention it has more range, to get more dmg you need to counter hit with JUST b4 and then you can use your WS 1,2(,3) string to get the combo going. Just be careful not to press the second hit(b4,4). It's not just nonoptimal but also EXTREMELY punishable. I still can't stop spamming it and get my ass beat -.- 33:25 after F1+2 you can also follow up with b1+2 for more dmg but be careful not to press it too early, or you'll be stuck in back launch animation which is -53 on block, so good luck getting death combo`ed. You can do the follow up in the video for wall carry. Launch if you can react well enough to see if the hit connects to get the oki(DBT 1+2 works great in that case) or if you are back to the wall you are guaranteed a backwards 1(or 2) attack with the saws but (again) extremely risky as you can get wall combo`ed. 52:48 you can follow up WR2 with b1+2 for the same 50 dmg, it's safer as it's powercrush. Or If you hit, you can continue with showcased f1+2 and go into SBT or DBT for oki. 59:58 I couldn't get this to work consistently even 50% of the time, (practised just now, still can't get it to work ;-;) so for those who struggle I suggest the other options in the video or play around with WS 1,2,delayed d3 and my fav move d2,4. Both alongside ff3,4,4 go into chainsaws so it's not that bad and they are great options if you don't have spin at the wall after wall carry. Also I want to elaborate on two moves. b2,1 imo is now only applicable in 2 situations: get a cheeky counterhit with the second hit(d/f4,4 to pick up your opponent) or in combo for floor breaks. You can use only the first hit bc it's safe but why if you have d/b2,2 which is also a mid-mid string and the second hit is also -9 on block. Also you can use it in combo to get a wall or general wall carry AND you get your chainsaws with 1+2 for oki/pressure/wall. It's just better all around but (AGAIN) don't forget to finish the string or get -18 punished. And yeah, the second git of b2,1 doesn't have nosebleed effect now like it used in T7(yeah, it was in the game and it gave you guaranteed f3,1 follow up. I abused the heck out of it xD ) My absolute fav mixup now is instant WS1+2 (for example after b1 or d/b3 etc.). If they try to stand up instantly, you get a ws1,2,3 into u1 and I don't do anything fancy, just new DBT f1 ender. All of that hits for 75% hp :D And for the love of Dr. Bosconovitch, don't forget to utilize the Alisa's staple WS1,2(,3). You can do so much with it in this game in combos and at the walls. Peace
@jazzarazzatfc50474 ай бұрын
instead of WR3 you mean WR2 and instead of b2,2 you mean b2,1. I was so confused reading from your notes without clicking the timestamps but thankyou for the very helpful footnote. b2,4 is awesome ur right i managed 89 damage at the wall from b2,4 > b2,4 > u1 > b2,4 > 2,3,3 man i love resplats
@albedo50374 ай бұрын
@@jazzarazzatfc5047 Thx for reply, fixed it. Glad to have helped.
@NikoPikoo4 ай бұрын
What do you mean with "If they try to stand up instantly, you get a ws1,2,3 into u1"? If I set the practice dummy to quick recovery after knockdown and use ws1+2 into ws1,2,3 it does not connect?
@albedo50374 ай бұрын
@@NikoPikoo Yeah, it only connects when they press up or back to get up. It rarely works (after beginning ranks) but that's why my game plan is to apply heavy pressure and make the enemy make mistakes. But when it hits, it feels super good :D
@kaisodile4374 ай бұрын
Was practicing the combo coming out of the backup stance 3 meteor kick to get the timing and noticed that if you listen for the sound of Alisa's boosters activating on the run in and react to that with your DF+1 to continue combo, it makes that insane damage pretty much 100% consistent *with just a little practice. Incredible guide btw, insane this is "starter"
@afroraykun4 ай бұрын
Tried Alisa for the first time after watching your stream on Friday; was never a fan in 7 but curious to try her in 8. My god, she's perfect. The pokes, the movement, the absolute face-wrecking mixup/knowledge check potential of the chainsaws. She's insane. Very excited to sit down with this guide and study; thanks for posting, Frame =)
@patrick283574 ай бұрын
Hey Frame, important thing about WR2. You can actually confirm when the move is blocked and transition into DES. Awesome video btw
@FrameWhisperer4 ай бұрын
That's cool! Thanks!
@GetTheTables4 ай бұрын
One of the best guides I've come across while learning T8. Massively useful for someone picking up the char. Thanks for putting this together!
@FrameWhisperer4 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it ☺️
@sleepyjoe45294 ай бұрын
omg you're still alive -- I used to play eliza cuz of you and now with Eliza gone, Alisa is my main now. Thank you for this guide.
@Daty374 ай бұрын
First time Tekken player coming from other FGs and I just happened to pick Alisa, this was an amazing foundation for all aspects. Great work!
@oolongpantsu34374 ай бұрын
Lets go im looking forward to this. Welcome back frame! Dude i still love your style of character guides. I watched this slowly over the span of a day. It is not a complete guide of everything that you can do with Alisa but it makes her gameplan very tangible while still giving some in depth tech and ideas. Great work frame, much appreciated!
@adamp_4 ай бұрын
10:30 A cool thing about df1,1,2 is that it's now all guaranteed on ch for 60 damage and +8 in des, which is really good for a i13 ch mid.
@Kuyajoshymoshy4 ай бұрын
Been following since the first Tekken 7 Alisa guide! Excited for her to be my main in this game too! Thank you for the tips 🙏🏽
@PocoQuinn4 ай бұрын
wow at the end where you recommended playing along with the guide in training, that's actually exactly what i was doing. This style is really nice for that, I was able to keep up and see firsthand what you meant while you were explaining, I think it'll be super helpful, so thank you!
@yvesmija4 ай бұрын
im new to tekken and ive been practicing majority of her moves. i havent watched any specific character guides yet, so i dont really know which moves are good. this really is an excellent and detailed guide, and everything makes sense. thank you for making this.
@Emjoez4 ай бұрын
Thanks for this Frame, it's just what I needed!! picked up Alisa just now when the game dropped and I'm enjoying her so much
@user-zm5ww4fe2g4 ай бұрын
This is the first time i'm watching one of your vids, I was an alisa main back in T6, even in 7 (TTG), now we're here. This guide really clarified the changes between 7 and 8, the magic 4 that is not CH launcher, some input changes, wall carriers etc. I have to admit that this is probably the most helpful guide for T8 alisa, and it really helped me to transition from the previous game to this one. You're amazing, thank you :D p.s Dear viewers, this video is legit if you wanna start playing alisa in T8, trust me, it's 100% to what he says.
@FrameWhisperer4 ай бұрын
Thank you for your kind words!
@AfoteyAnnum4 ай бұрын
Excellent guide. I appreciate in depth stuff like this for my main. Loved using her in 7, gonna definitely love her in 8. Thanks for this useful video!
@mallangs3 ай бұрын
what a guide, loved listening to this. just was missing time stamps, but comments got me covered.
@tyleradams31994 ай бұрын
good stuff, this was one of the best character walkthroughs out. def the best for alisa
@louieverrtorreon6844 ай бұрын
Great vid in depth tutorial! First time learning Alisa and it's been fun so far.
@tacocrunchies4 ай бұрын
The GOAT is back loved your guide for T7 back in the day
@Solarson4 ай бұрын
Very good guide. The only thing I'd say is that you shoulda mentioned the Power Crush that she has from Chainsaw stance. Everytime one of your moves get blocked you can make the opponent second guess themselves with the Power Crush and if it connects you can keep your turn and apply more Chainsaw moves, it's amazing for her. Edit: The input is b1+2, I don't think it shows up in the Move List for some reason. | Also 1+2 (the Homing High) is +4 on Block, not sure if that's a change from T7 but it's insane for her.
@FrameWhisperer4 ай бұрын
Yes, that move is great as well. Armor is important for her!
@sabinadodge13904 ай бұрын
it's in the movelist but not in the Destruction stance section, but it has a note that says it can also be done in Destruction stance
@Crossbreaker__4 ай бұрын
I started playing tekken a year ago and your Alisa guide was the thing that made this game "click" for me, so glad you did this
@Blueberryvibe4204 ай бұрын
Watching this video as a complete beginner to both Tekken and to the character, I must say this video gave lots of insight! But I also want to say that it would be much more helpful if you put the combos you are doing on the screen aswell as you are talking/showcasing them. I know I can see the button history on the left and I get it that people who have played the game a lot will understand the strings, but as for others with little experience as myself its very hard to transcribe and try in-game. But otherwise it a really good guide and I really appreciate the length of the video, will most likely watch the whole thing a couple of times as I get better to try figure out the more advanced stuff.
@EpicAsa14 ай бұрын
Very new to tekken. Started nodding when you were explaining. I’ll be watching this while thing. Thank you
@Traeyze4 ай бұрын
Finally got the chance to watch it all the way through and definitely a bunch of stuff that helped fill some gaps I was noticing, especially some of the wall stuff. She's quickly become my favourite character to play in the game right now and the mix of dry 'they can't complain, they know why they lost' style pokes and launchers crossed with silly shenanigans makes her a nice balance.
@ariac0re4 ай бұрын
super good guide! I just started playing Alisa yesterday thank you so much!!!
@dom27954 ай бұрын
Great video! At first i found it too long but as i picked up the character and started playing an began to see the format's true value. This is a subscribe from me. Here's to many more great guides and videos!😊
@IKI-KIKI4 ай бұрын
Great stuff! Appreciate the longer format.
@blueye954 ай бұрын
Starting out with T8, finding Alisa as my main (mostly due to how she looks as i need to learn the game anyway), this guide has been super helpful! As ive been playing matches i indeed noticed a few things you mentioned (like the power or UF1 which also works when pressuing just U1, though the F part helps moving in for more dmg). Ill definitely be adding more based on this! ^^
@c.c.anubis4 ай бұрын
When I started playing Tekken for the very first time with T7, I started with Alisa, watching your tutorials on her with a notebook by my side to take notes on important stuff. I look forward to doing the same now. Keep up the good work
@moistchohan38964 ай бұрын
can't wait to get started with learning her. Thanks for the video as always, Frame :)
@allskatersondeck4 ай бұрын
Crazy that I was on this channel years ago for the Eliza guides. Now with Eliza gone I've found myself here again for the Alisa guides. Just the type of video I needed, thanks for this ^^
@FrameWhisperer4 ай бұрын
my pleasure!
@DukeCyrus4 ай бұрын
Haha yeah (bring back Eliza btw)
@Bl4ckH4nd4 ай бұрын
Great video man. I haven't played Tekken properly since Tag on the PS2, I just messed around with friends in Tekken 7. I never got into Alisa but I sat down and followed this video while playing and damn....she's so good. Going to practice with her for sure.
@geotkn59844 ай бұрын
Wow super convenient as I was picking Alisa up from scratch, cheers mate see you in the streams.
@sunnywong92934 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for making this video ❤ Alisa will be my first pick in tekken🥰
Great video. I’ve used Alisa for a while, but this was still very useful for me.
@Giovanni.C193 ай бұрын
thank you for the comprehensive guide 🙌
@Ledehone4 ай бұрын
Wow, great guide. I might just pick up Alisa :D Looking forward to seeing your other guides!
@0kills4 ай бұрын
Ah yay. A good alice guide that’s slightly asmr-ish too. 🎉 I can sleep peacefully to this while learning how to deal vs her as well. Ty
@lurklimit83784 ай бұрын
This helped a great deal! My only critique is maybe adding annotations on screen for some things you are talking about. But, other than that great guide!
@reirei_tk4 ай бұрын
I don't play her, but my friend's wife does and she loves Alisa so I'll be sure to share this with her. Good work!
@vijayvj564 ай бұрын
I love your guides very much...lot of guides in KZbin...but your is something I understand very much easy... thanks a lot keep doing more
@FrameWhisperer4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@ZiegenMeisterV14 ай бұрын
btw I like the option of screwing at wall with b2,3. the crazy uf1 wallcombo worked every time for me with it. no backdash requierd, but 9 dmg less (still a lot though) also worth metioning that it is worth to save up your screw if you can make it to the wall without it. ub2 is also a good option to wallsplat at the end of a combo.
@MaskedGuyCh4 ай бұрын
10:33 One important thing to note about this extension (df1,1,2) is it's guaranteed on CH now, so if the df1 counter hits the rest is all guaranteed. Does 60 damage and leaves you in DES at +8, so definitely worth throwing out sometimes.
@Ninjabob5682 ай бұрын
The timing of this couldn't have been more perfect for me. My buddy asked me to learn Alisa because he hates the matchup. Shes been alot of fun to play again. Really solid imo
@elhorror_tekken4 ай бұрын
Great tutorial and information in genaral as always.
@Arirmind4 ай бұрын
First video saw from this channel and subscribed. Great guide! Would be even better if there were some timestamps for different sections (basic moves, punishes, combos etc.). Would help greatly if wants to come back to video and check certain section again.
@Pandashoestreams4 ай бұрын
What year is this. Og frame character deep dives?+?!? Just like old times can't wait for Leo ❤
@FrameWhisperer4 ай бұрын
Agree, I've missed this!
@esamalaslmy3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the amazing effort
@morriganrenfield82404 ай бұрын
Makes me think “kronika if cool” (the costume)
@yaringueta62344 ай бұрын
very useful guide, thank you so much
@theformation37814 ай бұрын
38:00 yoshi can option select both options here with flash, doesn't matter if NSS or 1SS; and raven can parry both options with his universal parry as well, just a tip for both alisa players and yoshi/raven players
@dreday63204 ай бұрын
Alisa is B tier imo. Tho They gave her a few changes, she's pretty much what she should have been in t7. So she's still playing catch up. Especially since the nerf to her df 1 4 and db 3
@outstandinggamer9964 ай бұрын
I love these guides
@yungtubercolosis10734 ай бұрын
Big ups frame, nice guide. Cant stand playing against this character, at least now i know her tricks
@Merumya4 ай бұрын
as a followup for her running 2 you can also do b1+2 instead of f1+2. also 50dmg but leaves you in chainsaw.
@SSBSunday4 ай бұрын
Thanks for this, first time tekken player
@rubenvisscher95974 ай бұрын
Awesome content, especially as an Alisa Main!
@FrameWhisperer4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@hakuyowane44484 ай бұрын
Pretty useful I already mained her since 6 tbh even older guides can help just peeps gotta remember her Key moves they are "Key" for a reason db3 and b1 are way too important so many alisa's forget they are playing a poker.
@michealkelly94414 ай бұрын
I'm a newbie to the series, and dang thus character is awesome
@julieallen074 ай бұрын
another hour long guide xD it feels like 2019 all over again
@jazzarazzatfc50474 ай бұрын
Ty Mr Whisperer hope you're doing well
@Killahurtz2604 ай бұрын
As a beginner, it looks like I am using her right so far: The goal is to bring out those chainsaws.
@leoncruise4 ай бұрын
Happy to see a full fledged character guide from you for T8. Would you consider doing one for Zafina as well? I really liked your T7 guide for her, and she feels a lot different in this game. I’d be curious to hear your thoughts on her gameplan
@alinlawson25064 ай бұрын
Hey man good video! I have watched some of your Tekken 7 videos in the past also. I main Kaz but I like to play other characters as well and this video has helped me with Alisa like tremendously. Gonna watch your Lars guide as well, but are you gonna do a Zafina guide like you did in Tekken 7? I saw the Tekken 7 videos and they were over an hour long. Might have been my best 1 to 2 hours though cause most of those characters move list are so damn extensive. Thanks and have a good day.
@TylerBetterDanU4 ай бұрын
I’m combining with 1,2 d charge 2 into while standing 1,2,3. Haven’t tried online but it shows a 4 hit combo off the d 2 charged 1,2,3 which leads into big damage following with u f 1, single jet dash with neutral 3 1,2,1,3+4. I’m new to tekken so maybe it’s not true combo but it shows it does in practice 🤷🏼♂️
@deeta00027 күн бұрын
Thanks for the help!
@kayanims4 ай бұрын
Welcome back
@LuckyRaphi4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the guide I didn't know uf1 existed 😂
@Sienista4 ай бұрын
The up back 2 when hit and the opponent does not roll backwards, you can follow it up with an up back 1 before the opponent is fully lying down and it does much more damage compared to up back 2 then f 1+2
@xRhychux4 ай бұрын
Youre the best, frame
@highlite8884 ай бұрын
Good detail, good shit
@himmelaoj18344 ай бұрын
Alisa now has a lot more fun new combos, but to get maximum damage you have to quit chainsaw stance at the end, which can be troublesome. I kinda tend to maintain my chainsaw stance and continue with the chainsaw plays...
@The5inOct4 ай бұрын
Can we please get a guide for Kuma & Panda!? I think they’re super slept on.
@Tiddlefix2 ай бұрын
New to the game so genuine question; would the WS 1, 2 not be decent even when you just use it as WS 1, 2 ,1+2(destructo cancel) to get the saws out on plus frames?
@darragho63584 ай бұрын
Woo i knew this was coming as an alisa main she seems pretty buffed compared to t7
@nerothos4 ай бұрын
Welp, I played Alisa based on this guide all the way to Garyu and I'm pretty sure I just played your Lars on ranked, haha. GGs!
@tatsumakisenpukyakku55764 ай бұрын
thank you👍👍
@nn74584 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@mdgeisto89534 ай бұрын
While standing 1, 2 can indeed be very dangerous. Earlier today, I kept auto-piloting into this, and my opponent just kept ducking and punishing the ever-living sh** out of me, it was brutal 😭
@julieallen074 ай бұрын
yeah same.. lost a set coz of that
@Greenalex894 ай бұрын
Missed those long in debths guides!
@DREAMSQU33ZE4 ай бұрын
Thanks 🙏
@Cloudy5734 ай бұрын
I remember the early days of T7 where DES wasn't even that good. It's been nice to watch her get continually refined and buffed over the years since then. Being able to switch back and forth between cautious poking and explosive chainsaw rushdown is really satisfying.
@jakethe_4 ай бұрын
when trying out combos and struggling with the timing of "while standing" a bit during matches (first time actually trying at tekken since years), i tried going into up forward 2 instantly. The timing to do a run up for a second up forward 1 is a lot easier and still deals 66 damage and you get a mixup after. And then i actually tried more and you can get a chainsawboost 1+2 after the second uf1. 75 damage and pretty easy to dofor beginners. Edit: Nvm the 1+2 comboing might have been the tiniest bit of wall influence, cant replicate it. But launcher into uf1 run up uf1 works well for beginners, though obv not optimal. also messed up connotations and wrote up forward 2 instead of 1, fixed mistake)
@moominfin4 ай бұрын
Is 2,2 too fast to be duckable on reaction? You talk about punishing it on block but it's a non-jailing high string which I'm always a little wary about.
@TZApresents4 ай бұрын
thank you
@AaronXCVI4 ай бұрын
Thank you
@CaptainYesz4 ай бұрын
God like, thanks!
@GarroshYT4 ай бұрын
Wonder what your thoughts are on the newcomers, especially Victor and Reina
@swiftwop734 ай бұрын
What is the problem with db4? You keep skipping over it even though its hits like a truck. Is it reactable?
@jake-60154 ай бұрын
The goat
@osirisavra13013 ай бұрын
I will miss some old moves that used to be good like standing 4 and running 3 4 4
@user-ch7cs8xt8x4 ай бұрын
awesome! can you do Jun guide aswell?
@LuvvMedia4 ай бұрын
hoping for a Law and Feng guide!
@GodHandIzz4 ай бұрын
Sickest custom
@Jate74 ай бұрын
Simple color palette swaps are underrated customs. Way better than giving someone a light-skin fade. 🤢
@ankh_k4 ай бұрын
Forgive my possibly stupid question, I'm a newb at Tekken and I haven't bought the game yet. Do you need a deluxe edition to have those customisation options?
@GodHandIzz4 ай бұрын
@@ankh_k No not at all, you should just get the standard versions, unless you want the year on DLC included!