Alisa Starter Guide for Tekken 8

[@tsarven5674]

4:32 Pokes 13:05 Punishes 28:24 Destruction Form 34:34 Heat 43:09 Combos 50:32 Other Key Moves 56:25 Wall Tech

[@Dredgen-Dyl]

Ur goated

[@FrameWhisperer]

Damn, thanks!

[@xbgsheikiii3593]

@@FrameWhispererbro i need a video on her ff4 just frame i don’t understand the timing

[@flemin9k]

what was the imput for getting chainsaw out while flying without attacking i know you can with 1plus 2

[@xbgsheikiii3593]

@@flemin9k during heat it’s f1+4 Otherwise it’s d1+2 or during certain move it’s f3 or f4

[@nickkiller-0710]

I remember watching your T7 Alisa guide back in the day so this is oddly nostalgic, I don't even play Tekken anymore but I still watch your stuff lol

[@deelyons4400]

You should comeback this is shaping up to be a good one

[@sleepyjoe4529]

Tekken 8 is amazing. You def need to come back

[@pandapoo5002]

Tekken 8 - BUY BUY BUY - Alisa is awesome this time around.

[@jakefitzgerald5287]

15:01 😢😢​@@deelyons4400

[@mylinuxstruggle5495]

Tekken 8 to good and cross platform.

[@GetTheTables]

One of the best guides I've come across while learning T8. Massively useful for someone picking up the char. Thanks for putting this together!

[@FrameWhisperer]

Glad you liked it ☺️

[@Skizzy03]

Tekken the only fighting game I’ve ever played where a “starter guide” video is an hour long

[@FrameWhisperer]

That's the beauty of it I guess

[@lucrypto8114]

You should try Guilty Gear then, the guide would be probably a 6 month course.

[@ZawaOnYoutube]

Ain't no beauty about that. Cannot wait for this game to get a Dustloop equivalent. Tekken community is so behind the times.

[@MagisterJohn]

😂

[@Maggotbone]

That's because this guide isn't good. It's not only way more information than anyone can retain, but also way more than any beginner needs.

[@kaisodile437]

Was practicing the combo coming out of the backup stance 3 meteor kick to get the timing and noticed that if you listen for the sound of Alisa's boosters activating on the run in and react to that with your DF+1 to continue combo, it makes that insane damage pretty much 100% consistent *with just a little practice. Incredible guide btw, insane this is "starter"

[@albedo5037]

Great video! I picked up a lot of useful information. A few things I found that might be helpful: 20:10 After f3,2 you can do b1+2(powercrush) and you'll get 50 dmg instead of 47, but the new string is wall carry 21:05 the second hit of hopkick is safer than the first (I believe it was the other way around in T7) so make sure to always do both kicks 22:15 b4 is extremely useful in some situations as you mention it has more range, to get more dmg you need to counter hit with JUST b4 and then you can use your WS 1,2(,3) string to get the combo going. Just be careful not to press the second hit(b4,4). It's not just nonoptimal but also EXTREMELY punishable. I still can't stop spamming it and get my ass beat -.- 33:25 after F1+2 you can also follow up with b1+2 for more dmg but be careful not to press it too early, or you'll be stuck in back launch animation which is -53 on block, so good luck getting death combo`ed. You can do the follow up in the video for wall carry. Launch if you can react well enough to see if the hit connects to get the oki(DBT 1+2 works great in that case) or if you are back to the wall you are guaranteed a backwards 1(or 2) attack with the saws but (again) extremely risky as you can get wall combo`ed. 52:48 you can follow up WR2 with b1+2 for the same 50 dmg, it's safer as it's powercrush. Or If you hit, you can continue with showcased f1+2 and go into SBT or DBT for oki. 59:58 I couldn't get this to work consistently even 50% of the time, (practised just now, still can't get it to work ;-;) so for those who struggle I suggest the other options in the video or play around with WS 1,2,delayed d3 and my fav move d2,4. Both alongside ff3,4,4 go into chainsaws so it's not that bad and they are great options if you don't have spin at the wall after wall carry. Also I want to elaborate on two moves. b2,1 imo is now only applicable in 2 situations: get a cheeky counterhit with the second hit(d/f4,4 to pick up your opponent) or in combo for floor breaks. You can use only the first hit bc it's safe but why if you have d/b2,2 which is also a mid-mid string and the second hit is also -9 on block. Also you can use it in combo to get a wall or general wall carry AND you get your chainsaws with 1+2 for oki/pressure/wall. It's just better all around but (AGAIN) don't forget to finish the string or get -18 punished. And yeah, the second git of b2,1 doesn't have nosebleed effect now like it used in T7(yeah, it was in the game and it gave you guaranteed f3,1 follow up. I abused the heck out of it xD ) My absolute fav mixup now is instant WS1+2 (for example after b1 or d/b3 etc.). If they try to stand up instantly, you get a ws1,2,3 into u1 and I don't do anything fancy, just new DBT f1 ender. All of that hits for 75% hp :D And for the love of Dr. Bosconovitch, don't forget to utilize the Alisa's staple WS1,2(,3). You can do so much with it in this game in combos and at the walls. Peace

[@jazzarazzatfc5047]

instead of WR3 you mean WR2 and instead of b2,2 you mean b2,1. I was so confused reading from your notes without clicking the timestamps but thankyou for the very helpful footnote. b2,4 is awesome ur right i managed 89 damage at the wall from b2,4 > b2,4 > u1 > b2,4 > 2,3,3 man i love resplats

[@albedo5037]

@@jazzarazzatfc5047 Thx for reply, fixed it. Glad to have helped.

[@NikoPikoo]

What do you mean with "If they try to stand up instantly, you get a ws1,2,3 into u1"? If I set the practice dummy to quick recovery after knockdown and use ws1+2 into ws1,2,3 it does not connect?

[@albedo5037]

@@NikoPikoo Yeah, it only connects when they press up or back to get up. It rarely works (after beginning ranks) but that's why my game plan is to apply heavy pressure and make the enemy make mistakes. But when it hits, it feels super good :D

[@AxeMain]

Alisa visually looks awesome. So far, Jun feels the best in my hands, so I'm looking forward to any guides on her.

[@SharkWithFreakinLaserBeam]

I'm a noob, and I haven't really tried many characters, but Alisa is satisfying to play.

[@adamp_]

10:30 A cool thing about df1,1,2 is that it's now all guaranteed on ch for 60 damage and +8 in des, which is really good for a i13 ch mid.

[@sleepyjoe4529]

omg you're still alive -- I used to play eliza cuz of you and now with Eliza gone, Alisa is my main now. Thank you for this guide.

[@Blue-c2q]

This is the first time i'm watching one of your vids, I was an alisa main back in T6, even in 7 (TTG), now we're here. This guide really clarified the changes between 7 and 8, the magic 4 that is not CH launcher, some input changes, wall carriers etc. I have to admit that this is probably the most helpful guide for T8 alisa, and it really helped me to transition from the previous game to this one. You're amazing, thank you :D p.s Dear viewers, this video is legit if you wanna start playing alisa in T8, trust me, it's 100% to what he says.

[@FrameWhisperer]

Thank you for your kind words!

[@afroraykun]

Tried Alisa for the first time after watching your stream on Friday; was never a fan in 7 but curious to try her in 8. My god, she's perfect. The pokes, the movement, the absolute face-wrecking mixup/knowledge check potential of the chainsaws. She's insane. Very excited to sit down with this guide and study; thanks for posting, Frame =)

[@Daty37]

First time Tekken player coming from other FGs and I just happened to pick Alisa, this was an amazing foundation for all aspects. Great work!

[@MaskedGuyCh]

10:33 One important thing to note about this extension (df1,1,2) is it's guaranteed on CH now, so if the df1 counter hits the rest is all guaranteed. Does 60 damage and leaves you in DES at +8, so definitely worth throwing out sometimes.

[@Crossbreaker__]

I started playing tekken a year ago and your Alisa guide was the thing that made this game "click" for me, so glad you did this

[@Blueberryvibe420]

Watching this video as a complete beginner to both Tekken and to the character, I must say this video gave lots of insight! But I also want to say that it would be much more helpful if you put the combos you are doing on the screen aswell as you are talking/showcasing them. I know I can see the button history on the left and I get it that people who have played the game a lot will understand the strings, but as for others with little experience as myself its very hard to transcribe and try in-game. But otherwise it a really good guide and I really appreciate the length of the video, will most likely watch the whole thing a couple of times as I get better to try figure out the more advanced stuff.

[@patrick28357]

Hey Frame, important thing about WR2. You can actually confirm when the move is blocked and transition into DES. Awesome video btw

[@FrameWhisperer]

That's cool! Thanks!

[@Oolong-Dong]

Lets go im looking forward to this. Welcome back frame! Dude i still love your style of character guides. I watched this slowly over the span of a day. It is not a complete guide of everything that you can do with Alisa but it makes her gameplan very tangible while still giving some in depth tech and ideas. Great work frame, much appreciated!

[@Traeyze]

Finally got the chance to watch it all the way through and definitely a bunch of stuff that helped fill some gaps I was noticing, especially some of the wall stuff. She's quickly become my favourite character to play in the game right now and the mix of dry 'they can't complain, they know why they lost' style pokes and launchers crossed with silly shenanigans makes her a nice balance.

[@vijayvj56]

I love your guides very much...lot of guides in KZbin...but your is something I understand very much easy... thanks a lot keep doing more

[@FrameWhisperer]

Thank you!

[@Ninjabob568]

The timing of this couldn't have been more perfect for me. My buddy asked me to learn Alisa because he hates the matchup. Shes been alot of fun to play again. Really solid imo

[@mallangs]

what a guide, loved listening to this. just was missing time stamps, but comments got me covered.

[@yvesmija]

im new to tekken and ive been practicing majority of her moves. i havent watched any specific character guides yet, so i dont really know which moves are good. this really is an excellent and detailed guide, and everything makes sense. thank you for making this.

[@PocoQuinn]

wow at the end where you recommended playing along with the guide in training, that's actually exactly what i was doing. This style is really nice for that, I was able to keep up and see firsthand what you meant while you were explaining, I think it'll be super helpful, so thank you!

[@tyleradams3199]

good stuff, this was one of the best character walkthroughs out. def the best for alisa

[@theformation3781]

38:00 yoshi can option select both options here with flash, doesn't matter if NSS or 1SS; and raven can parry both options with his universal parry as well, just a tip for both alisa players and yoshi/raven players

[@AfoteyAnnum]

Excellent guide. I appreciate in depth stuff like this for my main. Loved using her in 7, gonna definitely love her in 8. Thanks for this useful video!

[@allskatersondeck]

Crazy that I was on this channel years ago for the Eliza guides. Now with Eliza gone I've found myself here again for the Alisa guides. Just the type of video I needed, thanks for this ^^

[@FrameWhisperer]

my pleasure!

[@DukeCyrus]

Haha yeah (bring back Eliza btw)

[@Solarson]

Very good guide. The only thing I'd say is that you shoulda mentioned the Power Crush that she has from Chainsaw stance. Everytime one of your moves get blocked you can make the opponent second guess themselves with the Power Crush and if it connects you can keep your turn and apply more Chainsaw moves, it's amazing for her. Edit: The input is b1+2, I don't think it shows up in the Move List for some reason. | Also 1+2 (the Homing High) is +4 on Block, not sure if that's a change from T7 but it's insane for her.

[@FrameWhisperer]

Yes, that move is great as well. Armor is important for her!

[@FeistyVillain]

it's in the movelist but not in the Destruction stance section, but it has a note that says it can also be done in Destruction stance

[@Cloudy573]

I remember the early days of T7 where DES wasn't even that good. It's been nice to watch her get continually refined and buffed over the years since then. Being able to switch back and forth between cautious poking and explosive chainsaw rushdown is really satisfying.

[@blueye95]

Starting out with T8, finding Alisa as my main (mostly due to how she looks as i need to learn the game anyway), this guide has been super helpful! As ive been playing matches i indeed noticed a few things you mentioned (like the power or UF1 which also works when pressuing just U1, though the F part helps moving in for more dmg). Ill definitely be adding more based on this! ^^

[@tacocrunchies]

The GOAT is back loved your guide for T7 back in the day

[@ariac0re]

super good guide! I just started playing Alisa yesterday thank you so much!!!

[@EpicAsa1]

Very new to tekken. Started nodding when you were explaining. I’ll be watching this while thing. Thank you

[@Kuyajoshymoshy]

Been following since the first Tekken 7 Alisa guide! Excited for her to be my main in this game too! Thank you for the tips 🙏🏽

[@dom2795]

Great video! At first i found it too long but as i picked up the character and started playing an began to see the format's true value. This is a subscribe from me. Here's to many more great guides and videos!😊

[@Emjoez]

Thanks for this Frame, it's just what I needed!! picked up Alisa just now when the game dropped and I'm enjoying her so much

[@c.c.anubis]

When I started playing Tekken for the very first time with T7, I started with Alisa, watching your tutorials on her with a notebook by my side to take notes on important stuff. I look forward to doing the same now. Keep up the good work

[@moistchohan3896]

can't wait to get started with learning her. Thanks for the video as always, Frame :)

[@dreday6320]

Alisa is B tier imo. Tho They gave her a few changes, she's pretty much what she should have been in t7. So she's still playing catch up. Especially since the nerf to her df 1 4 and db 3

[@けいすけ-l9y]

鉄拳初心者なのですが、アリサを使おうか迷っていたのでとても助かりました！ 日本のプロたちもアリサ強いって言ってるので使うのが楽しみです！もう少し進んだ内容のガイドも今後上げて下さると嬉しいです！

[@Bl4ckH4nd]

Great video man. I haven't played Tekken properly since Tag on the PS2, I just messed around with friends in Tekken 7. I never got into Alisa but I sat down and followed this video while playing and damn....she's so good. Going to practice with her for sure.

[@reirei_tk]

I don't play her, but my friend's wife does and she loves Alisa so I'll be sure to share this with her. Good work!

[@louieverrtorreon684]

Great vid in depth tutorial! First time learning Alisa and it's been fun so far.

[@0kills]

Ah yay. A good alice guide that’s slightly asmr-ish too. 🎉 I can sleep peacefully to this while learning how to deal vs her as well. Ty

[@morriganrenfield8240]

Makes me think “kronika if cool” (the costume)

[@CB-es8zf]

Great video. I’ve used Alisa for a while, but this was still very useful for me.

[@ZiegenMeisterV1]

btw I like the option of screwing at wall with b2,3. the crazy uf1 wallcombo worked every time for me with it. no backdash requierd, but 9 dmg less (still a lot though) also worth metioning that it is worth to save up your screw if you can make it to the wall without it. ub2 is also a good option to wallsplat at the end of a combo.

[@hakuyowane4448]

Pretty useful I already mained her since 6 tbh even older guides can help just peeps gotta remember her Key moves they are "Key" for a reason db3 and b1 are way too important so many alisa's forget they are playing a poker.

[@lurklimit8378]

This helped a great deal! My only critique is maybe adding annotations on screen for some things you are talking about. But, other than that great guide!

[@Merumya]

as a followup for her running 2 you can also do b1+2 instead of f1+2. also 50dmg but leaves you in chainsaw.

[@Pandashoestreams]

What year is this. Og frame character deep dives?+?!? Just like old times can't wait for Leo ❤

[@FrameWhisperer]

Agree, I've missed this!

[@sunnywong9293]

Thank you so much for making this video ❤ Alisa will be my first pick in tekken🥰

[@Arirmind]

First video saw from this channel and subscribed. Great guide! Would be even better if there were some timestamps for different sections (basic moves, punishes, combos etc.). Would help greatly if wants to come back to video and check certain section again.

[@TylerBetterDanU]

I’m combining with 1,2 d charge 2 into while standing 1,2,3. Haven’t tried online but it shows a 4 hit combo off the d 2 charged 1,2,3 which leads into big damage following with u f 1, single jet dash with neutral 3 1,2,1,3+4. I’m new to tekken so maybe it’s not true combo but it shows it does in practice 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@IKI-KIKI]

Great stuff! Appreciate the longer format.

[@Sienista]

The up back 2 when hit and the opponent does not roll backwards, you can follow it up with an up back 1 before the opponent is fully lying down and it does much more damage compared to up back 2 then f 1+2

[@Ledehone]

Wow, great guide. I might just pick up Alisa :D Looking forward to seeing your other guides!

[@geotkn5984]

Wow super convenient as I was picking Alisa up from scratch, cheers mate see you in the streams.

[@Dalin_B]

Thank the Tekken Devs for nerfing that double hit hop kick! Thank you! That move was "spammers" favorite move.

[@FrameWhisperer]

Never thank the Tekken devs, they already have a massive ego problem.

[@mdgeisto8953]

While standing 1, 2 can indeed be very dangerous. Earlier today, I kept auto-piloting into this, and my opponent just kept ducking and punishing the ever-living sh** out of me, it was brutal 😭

[@julieallen07]

yeah same.. lost a set coz of that

[@rubenvisscher9597]

Awesome content, especially as an Alisa Main!

[@FrameWhisperer]

Thanks!

[@Tigademilus]

I love in-depth guides.

[@michealkelly9441]

I'm a newbie to the series, and dang thus character is awesome

[@Gio3409.7]

thank you for the comprehensive guide 🙌

[@jazzarazzatfc5047]

Ty Mr Whisperer hope you're doing well

[@himmelaoj1834]

Alisa now has a lot more fun new combos, but to get maximum damage you have to quit chainsaw stance at the end, which can be troublesome. I kinda tend to maintain my chainsaw stance and continue with the chainsaw plays...

[@julieallen07]

another hour long guide xD it feels like 2019 all over again

[@DoctorGray]

I still miss frame in tekken

[@alinlawson2506]

Hey man good video! I have watched some of your Tekken 7 videos in the past also. I main Kaz but I like to play other characters as well and this video has helped me with Alisa like tremendously. Gonna watch your Lars guide as well, but are you gonna do a Zafina guide like you did in Tekken 7? I saw the Tekken 7 videos and they were over an hour long. Might have been my best 1 to 2 hours though cause most of those characters move list are so damn extensive. Thanks and have a good day.

[@elhorror_tekken]

Great tutorial and information in genaral as always.

[@osirisavra1301]

I will miss some old moves that used to be good like standing 4 and running 3 4 4

[@Killahurtz260]

As a beginner, it looks like I am using her right so far: The goal is to bring out those chainsaws.

[@SundayReacts]

Thanks for this, first time tekken player

[@The5inOct]

Can we please get a guide for Kuma & Panda!? I think they’re super slept on.

[@LuckyRaphi]

Thanks for the guide I didn't know uf1 existed 😂

[@jakethe_]

when trying out combos and struggling with the timing of "while standing" a bit during matches (first time actually trying at tekken since years), i tried going into up forward 2 instantly. The timing to do a run up for a second up forward 1 is a lot easier and still deals 66 damage and you get a mixup after. And then i actually tried more and you can get a chainsawboost 1+2 after the second uf1. 75 damage and pretty easy to dofor beginners. Edit: Nvm the 1+2 comboing might have been the tiniest bit of wall influence, cant replicate it. But launcher into uf1 run up uf1 works well for beginners, though obv not optimal. also messed up connotations and wrote up forward 2 instead of 1, fixed mistake)

[@yagami999913]

Now this what i call a starter guide. Unlike another known content creator (who i won't mention so that Kingjae doesn't get mad) who's "guides" are twitch clips where he's still trying the character.

[@reluctantbias8508]

It's a bit of a shame that T8 forces to play more agressively. I enjoyed playing Alisa with slow, methodical and poke heavy playstyle. I almost never used chainsaws in T7 and still reached emperor.

[@phamhuucuong6203]

Bruh but chainsaw is really good stuff

[@チキンフィレイ]

Mained her in T7 with that playstyle too. But since T8 has different mechanincs maybe I'll switch to steve now.

[@nerothos]

Welp, I played Alisa based on this guide all the way to Garyu and I'm pretty sure I just played your Lars on ranked, haha. GGs!

[@darragho6358]

Woo i knew this was coming as an alisa main she seems pretty buffed compared to t7

[@outstandinggamer996]

I love these guides

[@esamalaslmy]

Thank you for the amazing effort

[@yungtubercolosis1073]

Big ups frame, nice guide. Cant stand playing against this character, at least now i know her tricks

[@thepokebw10]

I feel like a green rank player by spamming all of these chainsaws, but I guess I just have to get used to this new playstyle. No longer does it feel like I have to overcome their offense with my defense to win. Now I can pretty much negate their movelist if I push my gameplan onto them first. I remember facing an Alisa who played as if she was still in T7 - overly defensive, lots of backdashes and many pokes. Well, I absolutely destroyed her with chainsaws. The amount of chip damage I dealt was so oppressive, that you can't freeze up and backdash or you'll be chipped to death. From what I experienced, the new playstyle would probably be unga bunga alisa with the odd sprinkling of defensiveness to keep them on their toes. The whole game essentially revolves around the fastest way to unleash your chainsaw mixups. Your pokes are way too fair in a meta where people are powercrushing shit, spamming safe heat engagers, and initiating 70, or even 80+ damage combos - and it's even more insane with wall, heat, and rage art.

[@GuamoKun]

Shouts outs to Estrada de Estrala from T5

[@leoncruise]

Happy to see a full fledged character guide from you for T8. Would you consider doing one for Zafina as well? I really liked your T7 guide for her, and she feels a lot different in this game. I’d be curious to hear your thoughts on her gameplan

[@Tiddlefix]

New to the game so genuine question; would the WS 1, 2 not be decent even when you just use it as WS 1, 2 ,1+2(destructo cancel) to get the saws out on plus frames?

[@Greenalex89]

Missed those long in debths guides!

[@yaringu59]

very useful guide, thank you so much

[@GarroshYT]

Wonder what your thoughts are on the newcomers, especially Victor and Reina

[@swiftwop73]

What is the problem with db4? You keep skipping over it even though its hits like a truck. Is it reactable?

[@kayanims]

Welcome back

[@teniaqpasarmestoami]

can you make a guide for beginners of how to beat Alissa?

[@willwatkins4602]

I'm trying to follow the guide, but you may want to notate how to do follow ups on some of her pokes. I can't for the life of me bring out the chainsaws

[@moominfin]

Is 2,2 too fast to be duckable on reaction? You talk about punishing it on block but it's a non-jailing high string which I'm always a little wary about.

[@Samaelish]

Frame, watch Shadow play Zafina in Frosty Haustings. He picked Zafina over Claudio, for some reason.

[@FrameWhisperer]

cool, will do

[@Metadaxe]

It's a shame that my favorite archetype (fast movement+good pokes) in Tekken is best represented on a character I find so aesthetically unpleasant. I just cannot fuck with moeblob android, no matter how much the moveset and movement appeal to me.

[@LoadedTunafish]

Have you tried raven? Good movement, evasive, amazing pokes, mixups etc. give it a shot

[@xRhychux]

Youre the best, frame

[@BangladeshMandalore]

Have you managed to find a working playstyle with her, Frame?

[@FrameWhisperer]

Yes, today I am doing much better after a long practice session adding more tools

[@BangladeshMandalore]

Glad to hear!

[@deeta000]

Thanks for the help!