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Darin & George discuss the Alistair Begg Controvery as well as the latest #HeGetsUs Campaign and how Christians should think critically and Biblically about these things.
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[@shellykate1883]

Thank you for approaching these issue with clarity, God’s truth and with such humble hearts. I have been grieving for quite awhile over what is happening in our churches… you both have helped me so much to approach these issues with God’s truth. Many things resonated with me but when you said we have to stay engaged without caving in, that was a wow in my book. Repent and believe…. Jesus said that…. Not me, nor you. And yes, we are pandering to a certain ideological view. It’s everywhere … so once again, from the deepest part of my heart, thank you for standing strong in God‘s word!

[@gracetostandpodcast]

Thank you for the encouragement! How did you find our video?

[@shellykate1883]

@@gracetostandpodcast like so many others I have been listening to Pastor Begg for so many years and I have learned so many things re biblical truth. I believe he has always been so straightforward regarding God’s word! So I have been researching many video’s on his response to the Grandmother’s question … and there you were…I have been so sad about this. When I heard that American Family took him off their lineup I was shocked. But after hearing your podcast, I felt so comforted because I feel exactly the same way you do, but I could not express myself in words as the both of you did, so once again, I want to thank you, and I am now a subscriber, and have sent your broadcast to many. I really do believe the Lord sent you to me! With the kind of upside world we are living in, and the church caving in on so many areas, we need men (Pastors) like you giving biblical thought, bathed in truth, grace, mercy, love and prayer! Appreciate you! For such a time as this!

[@heidibrown997]

Thank you for standing boldly for His Word ,of course you will get falsly accused. We just have to make sure that our heart does not condemn the person, we pray for. We weep for them because we love them, and we know how hurtful sin truly is, but we have to stand by the Word of God. Condemn the sin that we are pressured by our culture and in some cases our laws, to endorse.

[@gracetostandpodcast]

Thank you.

[@melaniewollenberg2579]

Begg is committed to the whole word of God. If you haven’t listened to him for years and years like we have please don’t take one sentence out of context. He believes gay / trans are in violation of Gods word and had preached accurately on Romans 1.

[@gracetostandpodcast]

Great. We never said that he didn't believe that.

[@heidibrown997]

So Jesus would be at the wedding of homosexuals? A marriage according to Father God is clearly defined for us. My child deciding to live that lifestyle that God calls sin, I can't bless. It hurts terrible to not be able to attend their wedding. But that does not mean I can't invite them to a family dinner. Saying grace before the meal. Loving the sinner, but hating the sin comes from a broken heart for the sinner.

[@etdunn]

@@heidibrown997 Jesus shocked and disgusted the religious leaders of His day because He chose to dine with prostitutes and tax collectors. The leaders' disgust and disdain did not dissuade Him. When the sinners heard Jesus speak, they knew exactly where He stood in relation to their lifestyles. Similarly, Pastor Begg focused his comment on the same point: The homosexual couple knew where the relative stood in relation to the validity and propriety of their union. In that context, and only in that context, her attendance at the ceremony was appropriate, mixing her judgment against their union, which she had made clear, and love and concern toward the sinners in a way that God could use to display His character.

[@heidibrown997]

​@@etdunnthank u for your thoughtful reply. God knows the heart and will help Allistair to work through this.. If i stay away from my cousins homosexual wedding , because my heart is broken for the sin being sanctified by marriage vows, God knows that too. Eating with sinners is what we do all the time. That misses the issue. I lived with an husband who hated my life in Christ, was violently opposed for many years. In those years I learned finally to die to self and grow in faith. Nothing else could have drawn me so close to God. I saw his need so great and no longer suffered selfishly, but grieved for him. I slept and ate with him every day. He wanted to live with me. I don't mind saying some times I wished he leave. God would not let me leave. He had a plan for us. It is wonderful to see what God is doing in him now. God help this grandson, whose shameless act of homosexual marriage, should cause us all to lift him up in prayer.

[@gracetostandpodcast]

@@heidibrown997 thank you for your thoughts.

[@Brunok-p6d]

To suggest that a grandmother going to her grand child’s wedding next ends up in marching in a parade is ridiculous.

[@olgaburgos7780]

As you said, pastor Begg is one of the best Christian preachers that our Lord has gifted us in with, and they are not allowing the preach at conferences? That is absurd! It is wrong to deprive us of his gospel magnificent,converting souls preaching. Whoever is doing this, beware, God is the judge and is watching your deeds.!

[@davidmazzella824]

I didn't hear this originally, only from your posted video, but it seemed to me that Begg was struggling with the answer. He wasn't talking to a casual acquaintance, but the GRANDMOTHER. Once you become Grandparents, its an amazing relationship. You don't think you could possibly love anyone more than your children, and then the grandchildren come along, and WOW, your love for them goes deeper still. Would Jesus have gone to such a wedding? I'm not sure any of us can answer that for sure. I can probably be fairly certain that John the Baptist wouldn't have. But, Jesus definitely mingled with a different crowd...so...who knows?

[@gracetostandpodcast]

You're right about John the Baptist...he was beheaded for calling out a sinful wedding far less egregious than what we're talking about. Yes the relationship makes it complicated, and that's why I'm sympathetic to the plight. the issue is not in struggling with the decision, the issue we took was in the rationale of not wanting to appear judgmental. Thanks.

[@spiritman-em4qr]

Matthew 10:34-36

[@lindacowles756]

33:23 "Where do we go [in Scripture] to decide how we ought to live in a world where there are cultured despisers who think that we are knuckledraggers because we don't celebrate and affirm any kind of the entire rainbow of sexual flavors out there in practices? You are the light of the world. A city on a hill cannot be hidden. Matthew 5:14 ...in a crooked and perverse generation, in which you shine like stars. Philippians 2:15

[@rajsahota5524]

It is very frustrating to me that Alistair Begg's peers are silent in calling him out, because we all know what Bible says about these things. But isn't Alistair Begg in sin for: 1. Giving this advice unrepentantly, 2. Doubling down on it and rebuking naysayers as 'fundamentalist pharisees'? And 3. In Beggs first response potentially twisting Scripture to justify his actions. I'm surprised these questions have not been posed by those who have responded from the pulpit....

[@gracetostandpodcast]

MacArthur's comments - kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGSwgYKNo7mrfdE

[@freedomologist]

Please review your comments at 30:00 minutes into the program. It sounded like it was sinful for a Christian to affirm and celebrate a gay “wedding” celebration, but if you’re a parent of the “bride” or “groom” then you have a slightly different view. Is it a sin to go, or not. Especially the way you framed the issue in the ensuing minutes, I think that you created confusion.

[@gracetostandpodcast]

In this world of all or nothing, I understand your comment. However, 2 things can be true at the same time 1) it is sin 2) I am sympathetic to the struggle of a parent...

[@donnabarndt2819]

The proper thing for you to do is to get off the public back stabbing band wagon. That's the sin hear.

[@gracetostandpodcast]

Public statements need to be addressed publicly. You obviously didn't listen, as there was no backstabbing and we dealt with it respectfully.

[@richardtowne6771]

And so now there are more and more podcasts and commentaries about Begg, and all saying the same thing. There must not be anything else going on in the church.

[@gracetostandpodcast]

@@richardtowne6771 logical fallacy. talking about 1 thing doesn't negate there are other things going on nor that those other things are important to discuss. 1) If you look at our episodes you see we discuss a lot of different things 2) I said multiple times this is for MY people who have asked about it...

[@spiritman-em4qr]

Behold the Savior on His cross... He gets us, indeed! He gets that our sin required death as a payment to God, a payment none of us is capable of making, so Christ made it on behalf of all those who would repent and put their faith and trust in Him for making that payment for them.

[@gracetostandpodcast]

Amen.

[@lindacowles756]

Amen!

[@warrenroby6907]

Good nuanced discussion of two items which have generated much slam-dunking and dog piling. We Christians should humbly and charitably discern the issues. Your video models that.

[@gracetostandpodcast]

That's very encouraging! Thanks for the feedback. Blessings brother. - George and Darin

[@olgaburgos7780]

Does any one know if the grandmother went to the wedding? What her conscience told her? Did the OK to her by the pastor to go with a Bible as a gift, to let them know that what they are doing is not a marriage,who knows the results of her going will accomplish, God willing will be for knew light and repentance in the couple lives.