Do NOT TURN your SHOULDERS in the golf swing

[@MegaKev63]

Fantastic instruction Ali, you explain everything beautifully. Best golf instructor on youtube.

[@philrandle3382]

Have been working on this aspect of my swing with my club pro, your instruction offered a different way to look at the problem so thanks for the extra layer of understanding.

[@jessicabrown665]

I appreciate how you shared where you’re still working. Lots of content creators present their skills as having no flaws. Describing what to do within the context of how you yourself can improve was more authentic and very helpful. Thank you!

[@richardchester2148]

Great video. Trying to work on this at the minute as I'm quite 'armsy' in the downswing, with my hands and arms winning the race against my hips. Will try with this visualisation at the range this weekend.

[@DannyGodlewski]

I found this video while struggling at the range… holy moly! This is the perfect swing thought for me and what I’ve been struggling with. I’ve played hockey and lax my whole life, and those tend require more lateral movement than a good golf swing… Thanks a ton!

[@AliTaylorGolf]

Glad it helped!

[@davidmuse7004]

Awesome tip, I could never figure out the shoulders. I will working on this for the winter. Thanks for sharing Muse

[@FunkleGaff]

New to golf, and watching MANY MANY golf videos daily..... But this is easily one of the best of the last month. Can't wait to get into the driving range and focus on my right shoulder/side crunch on the way down. Really think it will smoothen my follow through which seems to tighten with my irons

[@AliTaylorGolf]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@markclubb5622]

This makes so much sense to me. I will be working on this through the winter.

[@adjman48]

Great advice. Has helped my power and consistency immediately.

[@AliTaylorGolf]

Glad it helped

[@TheBerkeleybob]

Excellent lesson! I find it so interesting how so. many coaches these days focus on tilt and yet no reference to the Stack &Tilt system is rarely mentioned. In other words it’s a key tenet of S&T. The best players all do it and yet no one calls it by name. But you’ve provided a wonderfully simplified concept here so thanks! “Left shoulder down, right shoulder down” doesn’t get much simpler!

[@marcmarini8425]

Your right, they don't want to say stack and tilt. Tiger said said he wants to feel stacked over the ball and then tilt part is just good mechanics.

[@TheBerkeleybob]

@@marcmarini8425 100% For reasons unknown most teaching pros are loathe to ascribe any of these known "best practices" to S&T. But all the best best tour players tilt, of course, and many also stack. I used to play with a pro back in the 90's and way back then he always focused on his left side ONLY and had most weight on his left leg sat the start of the swing.

[@Shankenstien23]

Great video and content , finally an instructor that doesn’t edit his mis- hits or thinned shots. I have the same problem as you and working on “looking thru the tunnel and not over it “ right shoulder position thru impact. Keep up the great content.

[@michaelwatt1718]

This video fixed a flaw in my golf swing after just 2 days. I am hitting the ball much crisper with additional distance. Thanks for the lesson!

[@bigshort9296]

Exactly what my pro is helping me with at the moment, it feels very different but there seems to be potential in persisting with the change. Interesting to see it presented in a slightly different way. Very helpful. Thanks.

[@jonovoudouris]

I like this. I've been working on the same principle but with a different emphasis, I pull my right shoulder up in the backswing and then pull my left shoulder up in the downswing, same principle but different way of feeling it. This definitely keeps me more stable and rotating around a fixed point where I was moving much more previously. Thanks

[@tarquin8270]

When I have tried this and got it right , the ball definitely has some draw and more distance on it , just need to practice it more , great video☝️

[@patrickgallacher858]

Having taken all of your tips, like this one, I realised that I’ve been swinging like the Womping Willow tree from Harry Potter! I feel more controlled, consistent and hitting the ball a heck of a lot better. Top man Ali 👍🏻

[@simonleach3812]

Brilliantly simple thanks. Can't wait until my course opens in 3 1/2 months time!

[@johnkokott8570]

I really enjoy your videos on golf striking and body posisition. Unfortunately it is now snowing where I play, so will have to wait on trying this until next spring. The coin video was great too and I used that at the driving range and it helped.

[@ek5419]

Well done. I finally figured out after several years of struggle that I was way to flat and turning shoulders instead of tilting. Amazing how this will ruin ones golf game.

[@tomhughes4892]

Thanks Ali ,totally informative. I’ve being doing the baseball back turn all this time 👍🍻🇨🇦

[@edwnsoto18]

wow an eye opener... Thanks Ali

[@glencalvert9510]

I really like this swing thought as opposed to just turn the shoulders. It really engages different muscles and you can feel the difference. Will definitely be working on incorporating it into the swing.

[@johnboutwell4354]

Just got back from the range and this is the best tip I've had in years. THANK YOU

[@blsinsc1]

FINALLY, someone who SHOWS you what TO DO and doesn't spend 3/4 of the video yacking!! I enjoy Mr. Taylor's videos. I'd really like to see him actually PLAY nine holes!

[@luxefalcon2730]

Great video. Wasn’t sure where you were going with the title... Lol... I believe that focusing on maintaining swing plane while consciously turning the shoulders accomplishes the same thing. Getting that tilted turn.

[@nickperry18]

Just tried this at the range. Hard to start with but blimey , what a huge difference, especially with 3 wood!!! Away with work so only keep a couple of clubs with me….. can’t wait to try out with other clubs too…. Thanks soo much, I’d say an extra 15 yards of carry on average, but bullet straight. Feels very powerful.

[@307DAS]

Great video….has helped me a lot on the back swing….to help with your down swing and maintaining that spine angle…I find if I turn my head back at address like Jack did just before he started his swing and maintain that head tilt…then I have good tilt through impact….

[@brendanrodgers9830]

Great swing thought. Builds a strong coil without moving off the ball

[@steveshelton6791]

Excellent as you described what I’m doing to the “T”. I just started back playing golf again after a 45 years absence from the game. Do you have a video on the back swing on the correct back swing plane? I’ve been told I’m to round house in the backswing.

[@rayprouty3396]

Hello Mr Taylor. Great video! When I'm told to turn my shoulders, I end up in the posture you demonstrated! I will definitely implement your tip to try and get more shoulder lean! Thank you!

[@AliTaylorGolf]

Thank you, hope it helps

[@jameslanceley6436]

Hi Ali can I use the same method for my driver

[@TheRealWillGeronimo]

Makes a lot of sense. I’m hopeful that I’ll have one more round to play before I start the winter training thank you

[@jasonhirst9723]

Defo worth a like and a subscribe, this is something I need to work on

[@jonathanwilliams2713]

Definitely something I will try out at the range. Are you doing anything specifically with your takeaway with this action too to ensure your club face is right? If so what is the feel and movement please?

[@pmoneyish6869]

What you stated about your issue on the downswing is the issue most people have I think. With very steep shoulders in the backswing the club shaft is usually too steep and then a "move" has to happen in the downswing to shallow that shaft which is complicated and error prone for most people it seems. Flatter (not completely) shoulders without coming out of posture (like you explained) allows the club shaft to stay shallow throughout the swing and gives a more swooping feeling (not scooping but swooping) at the golf ball leading to easy feeling to contact imo. Most people are always too steep with the shaft coming into the ball rarely are people shallow but shallow would give a better result. I always think of this as turning your torso and your shoulders will follow.

[@janavisundaresan6419]

Loved this video. Explained very well

[@henrypower8191]

Hi Ali. That video makes so much sense to me. I'm definitely going to try to get that feeling. Cheers Harry P

[@raincheck90]

Liked...simple training

[@ddpronto1]

Awesome, Ali! I suspected I lose my shoulder angle sometimes and get a flattish turn which results in feeling like I cannot make a full turn and standup. Then I wonder why I feel like I lost eye contact with the ball at times. Tends to happen later in the round. Maybe tired or lazy. In California US, so taking it to the course tomorrow. Practicing outside today I'm getting a full turn, head is where it is supposed to be. Shoulder down keeps everything much more compact. Thanks!

[@AliTaylorGolf]

Hope it helps, I'm in San Diego at the start of December for a few days, really looking forward to it

[@johnread185]

Simply brilliant.

[@method341]

Thanks for the tip. I've been topping my irons recently and will try this technique

[@AliTaylorGolf]

Did it work?

[@js_golf_cours6217]

Thanks Ali for making this video. We know that at the downswing some side bent right will have to be created, my question is : in your opinion why do we need to create the opposite side bent (left) at the backswing? For exemple I see long drives players whom stand tall at the end of the backswing

[@555atU]

This is a very cool thought. Would choking up on the club force you to work that right shoulder down? Thanks!

[@rickfranklin1471]

Great stuff man. Love your channel. You got me from striking the ball great 65.97% better.

[@AliTaylorGolf]

Great to hear!

[@Chipum]

Great channel thank you

[@rafabonati7757]

The more I watch your video lessons, the more I realize (realise) that these are intermediate level, not just the basics. I like it! Rafa

[@crumpecker]

Ali, I have the same issue coming down and out of the shot where I hit it thin a lot of the times. I guess I will have to concentrate on keeping that right shoulder down longer. It's as if I want to hurry up and look to see where the ball went and if I stay down too long, I'll miss the direction of the ball.

[@einstu]

I really like this video. One thing that I'm having trouble understanding. How do I know when I'm at the top of the backswing? I am currently not making a full term the question becomes, what is a complete turn then on the driver or a long iron?

[@dmiroy]

I like this one. Thanks Ali.

[@jamesengelbrecht767]

Awesome vid! Tried the feel drill, look forward to get out on the range. What launch monitor do you use?

[@AliTaylorGolf]

Trackman 4

[@jefffredrickson6310]

Awesome. This is the secret that I was missing. Thank you.

[@AliTaylorGolf]

Happy to help!

[@jameslanceley6436]

Hi Ali, I like this method(left shoulder down then right shoulder down) Is it ok to swing my driver with the same method, as it works very well for irons. Regards Jim

[@cdrbhupeshrakhra6628]

Another good video. Ali , you are a master in making great videos. Where were you earlier. Thanks

[@AliTaylorGolf]

I've been on KZbin for 7 years!! Thank you.

[@craigpelletier6931]

Good job of explaining feel...

[@marcquinn8230]

Can you give any advice on stopping the head dipping down in the swing ? I suffer this loads amongst other issues lol but it’s really noticeable when I video my swing

[@fannyromero7448]

Excellent!!!

[@ShaneBiscayaBaller]

I worked on this at the range and stopped topping and slicing the ball. Thanks 🙏

[@jsusna1972]

Good video. Going off topic, but I bought my first set of clubs in 1969 and have cleaned clubs hundreds of times. Without looking at the number on the bottom of a club, I could usually tell which club it was. When I saw your 7 iron from the face-on view, I would swear it's a 4 iron. Have the lofts on clubs today really become that much stronger? Is there even a standard loft for each iron these days from one manufacturer to the next?

[@attuser7167]

Good lesson, definitely my problem

[@mjm1012]

Your 7 iron distance is my driver distance LOL!🤣👏🤙👍⛳

[@robertbeyer5656]

Does this same tilt work for a driver? Thanks

[@alanripka2968]

Great lesson. You didn’t commit to finishing the down swing in posture and stood up at last min.

[@gwenevic]

Hi liked the video could you do the same video but include hip rotation because i find it hard to do.if i get the tilt i dont seem to rotate if i rotate i dont get side bend victor

[@thankywe1413]

Similar to Mike Autin's concept.Thanks.

[@craigmartin2446]

You haven’t mentioned shaft lean. Does that happen naturally with the swing as you are teaching it?

[@rhull3939]

If you're in the right sequence it does. If your arms and hands are the last thing to move in your sequence on the downswing, your hands naturally get through the ball before the clubhead and you'll have some forward shaft lean.

[@mjsgolf7004]

I focus on my eyes being vertical rather than horizontal as a feeling for this. After strike as the ball is flying away my eyeline is horizontal and it helps me maintain the spine angle through the strike and stops me standing up. I will try the shoulder feeling too

[@larrybeavens7580]

Good for you younger guys, but wait til you’re 76 like I am and see how that sidebend works out for you. Don’t get old; it has no redeeming qualities whatsoever… 😩

[@mjm1012]

Absolutely, and I'm only 63 lol. But my problems is all the years of lifting heavy weights has taken its toll on my body especially my shoulders! I wanna cry too!😮😅😒⛳

[@marct9587]

Like my dad said to me one day when he was starting to have problems, "Son, whatever the hell you do, just don't get old". It sounded pretty good until I realized what the alternative is!

[@dnguyen787]

That's right; and that's why you don't see many over 50 year-old PGA champions. LOL

[@quezebojones9352]

Wait till your 80

[@georgemazuran3413]

Hey Ali love your videos, I’m a returning senior golfer from Aus , is there any way I can have video lessons/ tips

[@AliTaylorGolf]

Absolutely

[@kesterng9711]

Exactly my problem, overturning shoulders and too flat back which is a real problem . Great tip and will try it

[@AliTaylorGolf]

I hope it helps.

[@ken_whu]

i have been trying this before seeing your video however i tend to hit the floor more often rather than a clean strike, can you recommend any help please.

[@karihall9542]

Irons only or hybrids too? I assume not for driver?

[@eddiebrown687]

I have tried this before, but it always feels like a reverse weight shift when I swing. I'm worried about slicing or pushing it. But it's a good tip for some people. Doesn't hurt to try it.

[@johnr2632]

Same - but then if it feels wrong it is probably right :)

[@thomasesparza9175]

S & T swing principles! 👍

[@AliTaylorGolf]

Not exactly, some similarities

[@Brent500]

I tried this briefly in my living room a bit ago. I'm good with the forward shoulder dropping down part but felt a tendency to "raise up" on the turn to get the right shoulder to drop down. I rewatched the video and it seems you keep your left shoulder down throughout the remainder of the swing. I felt that this shortened my swing and felt that I needed to grip lower on the club since the swing felt shortened, or maybe I just didn't do it right. I was trying to raise the left shoulder up at the top of my swing to be able to lower the right side but it seems your instruction is to do "left low" then "right low" and keep the left low throughout. Correct?

[@johnvera4382]

It also looks like your playing the ball more forward , I am 65 still have some flexibility . Should I play it like that

[@ericdumont610]

Does this shoulder turn works the same with the driver swing Ali.??????

[@AliTaylorGolf]

Yes, just less tilt as you are not as over the ball in your posture

[@nokia5359]

i believe this swinging have merit and tried this method many times. i just can NOT make the transition from up to down swing. always lose side bend, stalled and digged a hole a foot behind ball.

[@pmoneyish6869]

Striking the ball has more to do with your hips than the turn. The center of your pelvis is where the low point of the arc in the swing will be. Hitting down on the ball simply means hitting the ball in the downward part of the swing arc (before the low point). So if your low point is in front of the ball you'll be hitting down on the ball. The center of your pelvis (ppl just say hips) needs to be in front of the ball in the downswing. Then you won't hit a foot behind the ball ever as you can't hit the ground until the low point. This is how you get those nice divots in front of the ball and why the common phrase "it's all in the hips" exists. Get the hips in front of the ball in the downswing.

[@danielmosias6280]

This is confusing coz when setting up with driver you have tilt in the trail side. Do you lose that tilt in the back swing?

[@Frank-yx1np]

you need to extend your chest end of backswing as well ?

[@johns1646]

Is it the camera angle or do you play your 7 iron a couple inches ahead of center?

[@lawrenceS59]

Noticed that the further ahead you were the longer the distance was. Is that related?

[@robsaxepga]

If the club is doing what is supposed to be doing and the ball is flying toward the intended target does it matter what my shoulders or for that matter, the rest of my body, does?

[@zeuso.1947]

I think of pointing the left shoulder down towards the ball.

[@raystanbury8397]

So technically right Ali. I get the back swing right, "but" on the down swing if I stay over the ball with my right shoulder down I feel I'm going to junk into the ground. Guess I gotta keep practicing.

[@canyonaro]

Push on the ground/straighten your left leg as you get to impact. And close your eyes (on the range). You'll magically NOT chunk it. Good luck!

[@paultappenbeck9961]

Haha, I’m 70 with two shoulder surgeries and one neck fusion. Need a different option as I do tend to lift up on the back swing

[@GHOSTOFEIGHT]

But always do a shoulder check when changing lanes.

[@petegalindez9961]

I disagree with your title/premise…you are still turning the shoulders. The key is to do it on the correct plane where you are rotating your shoulders like a clock (up and down) and not like a compass (flat). This is right out of the first chapter of the Stack & Tilt textbook. That’s actually the approach I use for warmups and it helps me feel the solid contact. Once I do that, I feel much better whenever I decide to try different shots.

[@rhull3939]

I agree with you.

[@easyswing007]

I definitely have something to work on, I turn my shoulders too flat.

[@joecalvacca3195]

Swinging down with ur right shoulder will u hit it fat?

[@AliTaylorGolf]

No because the trail arm is more bent at impact due to shaft leaning forwards

[@michaelfenton4702]

Even an 84 year old can get some benefit from this.

[@TKPak1]

The TILTING takes care of the TURNING! The down swing starts with the Lead shoulder REMAINING tilted down until the shaft is about parallel to the ground when the trail shoulder starts going down and the lead shoulder goes up thru to impact and follow thru.

[@jsusna1972]

Jack Nicklaus said that he tried keeping his lead shoulder in place, even though he knew he wasn't, but that helped him get his right shoulder moving properly like this video says.

[@woodswork]

I think I’ve been doing it wrong that’s why my left shoulder hurts. I’ll do this and hopefully it will improve.

[@cjlafleur7585]

I have to say I'm not a fan of this, because it gets you leaning towards the target at the top. I've had a lot of success keeping my weight more back over my trail foot in the backswing. It just feels like when doing that there are fewer moving parts and it's easier to transfer your weight. It's just more efficient that way imo.

[@johnrodgers6049]

Turn shoulders and maintain spine angle.

[@robinowens5543]

Isn’t that stack and tilt?

[@markk171]

Almost, but stack and tilt encourages you to keep most of your weight on your lead foot throughout the swing...i.e. very little momentum shift back foot to front foot.

[@robinowens5543]

@@markk171 thanks for your help

[@markk171]

@@robinowens5543 Now if I could just help myself with the golf swing! :)

[@marcmarini8425]

Stack and tilt.

[@irwaniz]

Now I realize how tight my muscles/joints are

[@larrymorgan9486]

Subscribed rang bell

[@tony1999c]

What he said is completely true but he missed the part of lower body. Believing it or not when you do things right you're going to have a feeling of outside in swing.

[@robertleonhard661]

This is very similar the swing Jim Venetos teaches.

[@jamesharrington9561]

That’s almost the same concept of the Stack and Tilt Teaching. It adds lots of power to your swing.