Stop Turning Your Shoulders in your Golf Swing!

Why is nobody telling you the correct way to turn your shoulders? This video will fix your golf shoulder turn for good.
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[@colinkeane6634]

Thank you Sir. I play off 13 and was straggling with ball strike and hitting it fat. I thought I wasn't turning my shoulder so I exaggerated the movement and the swing got worse. I watched your video and realised the issue was my takeaway not my shoulder which as you rightly said follows the arms naturally. Every example you mentioned was me. 5 minutes on the range improving my takeaway and NOT turning my shoulder cured my ills. ❤❤

[@fingfangfoom2399]

never seen a youtube instructor or pro i've had lessons with so perfectly explain the details of hwo the body should move through the swing... why the sequence is what it is and the thoughts and drills to create fill to lock it in like you do. I'm truly impressed. Makes me want to drive to the range right now

[@jeffcohen4805]

I can't thank you enough for this one, Matt. The results were immediate and dramatic. It remains to be seen if they are permanent, but that's up to me. I just hit about 100 balls and I gained 15 yards on my irons and developed a little draw. My prior miss was an over the top pull. If I can make this a permanent fix, it's a game changer. Thanks again, Matt!

[@ST-xg3gy]

This was a great breakdown. Really clears up the hip overturn confusion, as well as the shoulders. Excellent lesson!

[@frankzayas3103]

Every so often, you put out a video that really hits home with me and this is one of them. I've been having some issues lately with my iron play especially. I saw this video a couple of days ago and tried this during my 9 hole round today. I felt and saw the difference immediately from my first drive. Such a fun round. On 4 of the holes, I hit my longest drives ever on those holes. The second hole is a par 3. I rattled the flag stick for a near hole in one. Had to settle for par. Later, on the par 5 8th, I again hit a big drive and reached the green in two. The 18 footer for eagle barely missed but I walked off with a birdie. All this from the one swing thought: Don't turn the shoulders!. YOU ARE THE MAN!

[@WilbertoCasillas]

I’ve been trying to figure this out for forever. Can’t wait to watch this ! Live edited this comment while watching: 1:02 I have this exact problem with the left miss. 2:04 this is getting creepy. The right side is exactly what I do! 4:10 looking forward to trying this. I wonder because I make good contact when I feel like I move my hands in but keep the head out. Could this feel be similar to the point of starting with your hands ? 5:03 when hands go shoulder height,don’t turn the hips but release the hips backwards. Would an appropriate feel be to load the inner right foot with the hip release? I’ll give this a try today at the range 6:31 when to shoulder turn? Don’t over crank the shoulders too much. When you move hands back the shoulders turn on their own. Practice trying to feel that your shoulders aren’t turning because they will def turn on their own. Lifting your hands will prevent you from turning. 8:08 how do I turn without turning? Keep center of chest point at ball while making your hands move as far away. Feel like your pushing your hands away from your body. This is literally the exact drill I do when I am out of sorts!!! My favorite video by far because it gives me hope that I will find the right feels eventually!

[@ronyulatic]

Exactly my problem I’ve been trying to fix for years…thanks mate!

[@water_feind9152]

Great video. I’ve been forcing my shoulders and it’s caused me to come up and hit bad shots more that good shots. I was losing my mind on why I was always coming up. Thanks for the lesson man, after practicing these drills I already feel much better

[@johnbuonomo7712]

Thank you , thank you , thank you ! I'm pulling for you in the KZbin masters . As far as my game goes , you're one of the top 3 guys that have helped my game ! God Bless !

[@vtcrafter6626]

Being a self taught golfer about 20 yrs ago was a serious struggle and clubs went into the shed til about 3 yrs ago. Now with all these great game improving videos my game has changed dramatically. Now it’s a lot more fun! Ty for all the great golf tips

[@codycurnutte9778]

So I’ve fixed my setup, the top of my swing by not cupping the wrist, I’ve learned how to control swing path decently but I never knew I had an issue with my hips firing too soon to get a turn started. This is super insightful. 100% my early hip action is the cause of my occasional flippy hook shot on my irons. I’ve used an exaggerated take way like you suggest that’s all arms at first using my driver for a while and it helped me dial back my slice. I guess it’s time to use it in my iron game too.

[@bryanhead3394]

This is the video I needed to see today. Thanks Matt!

[@kirkdevers4429]

I notice Justin Thomas does this in his warm up swing (waggle) before he hits his shot !! Real nice tip thanks for explaining the process!!!

[@paybax]

Also interesting to see. I am an OTT 3 cap. Been doing an outside take away to loop it inside on downswing. 1 year of doing that with no real improvement. I find outside take away gets my shoulders way more involved. Started to do an inside take away, like your bad swing. My OTT is gone and looks like similar to your “bad” swing. Your bad swing comes way more inside, same with me, perfect. I don’t flip at impact like you did tho. Only been at this for a month but so far it’s been great! Lol that’s golf 😂

[@johnnyhornbeck28]

I’ve been with you since day one, and you deserve your success. This is one of the best analysis of a common golf flaw that I’ve seen in probably 3000 golf videos that I have watched!

[@jamespark3399]

Following my comment the other day, I tried this yesterday with great success. Much improved ball striking 😊😊

[@tomrobinson2200]

Mr. SG, I actually noticed this at the range yesterday -- when I especially focused on a big turn and getting my left shoulder behind the ball, bam, pull hook! But I didn't know why. Now I do. Thanks!

[@tonybeard5147]

I discovered this a few weeks ago. It really works. Thanks Matt!!

[@biagiocozza8875]

Great video man. This will help me very much, this is exactly what I’ve been doing wrong. This will get me breaking 80 in no time.

[@shorttripfromcradletocript]

Like a lot of the folks commenting I'm also a self taught golfer who wants to learn and improve and you are doing us a great favor. Your comment about you being the most centered while doing this swing, preceded by some interesting hand gestures was super.

[@ballforegolf]

Great illustration and instruction. Makes total sense.

[@jammuu]

Exactly what my issue is, over turning! Perfect explanation of what to work on thank you.

[@meonia11]

Thanks for this. I literally was working on a drill today based on Ben Hogan and having the left should under the chin and was also trying to make sure my right hip went deep before clearing the left hip backwards on the downswing. It went great for a while, then I think I ended up like you in 6:30 to 6:50 and ended up shanking a bunch of balls. It seems to work well in the practice net. Looking forward to trying it out on the range next week.

[@nicktopinoplus8393]

Thanks for only giving me a drill to do 100 times. I'm still working on the last couple things you told me to do 500 times!

[@BiLatKnee]

I came here because I am looking to alleviate or at least reduce tearing on my rotator cuffs from golf. Hope this helps. I will try it on the range tomorrow.

[@tko4Rever]

Wow! Quieting my hips, shortening my backswing, and swallowing the club all happened due to this video. Can't thank you enough.

[@williamkang1481]

Can’t thank you enough! These are definitely the droids, I mean the drill, I’ve been looking for.

[@Titogolfs]

This is the best tip I’ve seen for what’s plaguing my swing

[@patrickwallace5508]

Another outstanding presentation! Thank you MSG!!

[@shifttransformations6597]

Tried this today and I works very good. I just need to work in a little more tempo in the transition but I feel If I work on this it's going to be money... I came across your video at the perfect time lol I was literally trying to turn my shoulders more and was really hooking it.

[@joshmaclachlan2014]

Excellent teaching! 👊🏼🏌🏻‍♂️⛳️

[@hitdog042]

This is what Saguto teaches too. Seeing a lot of it now. Good stuff.

[@felobo33]

I just literally took a lesson earlier today and worked on exactly this 👍👍

[@integralmalfunction]

You explain yourself really well. Very informative and easy to follow.

[@jamestrentweir]

Thanks for all the content duder!

[@Happy_Cary]

Thanks for the vids Señor Shortgame 😊😊

[@castavioushenderson632]

This is really important for people who swing the golf club with their arms and not the body.

[@charlesjeter5508]

I gained new club head speed today watching this. My 5 iron was going 220 yards!! Keeping the chest on the ball makes it like a rubber band in the back swing creating insane speeds!

[@waynecrossland7017]

Umm food for thought there ..simple and precise excellent video thks

[@dezinetech1000]

Wow the timing! Can’t wait to give this a try cuz I’m having this very issue 😅

[@samgarcia278]

Spot on, I can’t think of any other area of my life that could be more centered 😂

[@MPerski]

This is like the third KZbin video I’ve watched in the last week promoting NOT turning the shoulders, focusing more on turning the HIPS. Golf Sidekick (I know he’s one of your favorites) just did a great video with Eric Chong (his teaching pro) focusing on moving the right hip back and getting the hands deep ☝🏻 more in line with the right heel … not focusing on shoulder turn or the arms; just letting them rotate naturally as a result of hip turn. You’re right … the “Y” formed by the arms straight back FIRST, then turn the hips. Good stuff 👍🏻 … keep up the good work

[@lsamparkl]

if you don't "move your shoulders", how does the initial takeaway and backswing sequence look like? I have always been taught to move your shoulders first, in the first part of the takeaway.

[@crosscountrycrusader]

Great video, thanks!

[@Nyr22821]

Gonna have to try that.. been having issues hitting everything left lately

[@b1perry]

Do you ever think about taking on somebody who has bad habits and transforming them into a series? Because I’m local to you let’s make it happen lol

[@thetowndrunk988]

Jesus couldn’t fix my golf swing

[@andyr5389]

He has thought about it for years. Pay him. He is a teacher. 😂

[@b1perry]

@@andyr5389 lmao, didn’t know, I’d pay him lol 😂

[@themaven1276]

This is a pretty good idea

[@thomasfluent480]

MSG’s entire regular Friday golf gang could represent this project! 😂

[@bryantmorrison7363]

With Paul Azingers talk on recent PGA broadcast about hitting irons off the concrete after a few post round beers you should do a video about how to play that shot

[@cbus3353]

Killer drill Matt! Turn without turning works!

[@georgerodriguez7588]

Bullshit! 😂🤦🏽‍♂️

[@thedeeprot]

nice one mate!

[@christokritzinger5439]

Something that I wish I knew about 8000 practice shots ago thats so basic is elbow positions in the takeway that set up a lot of good things and this Vid just adds to next chapter in the search of perfection👊🏻

[@maxsmart8954]

I stopped turning my shoulder went from 270 to 160 with my driver. I think I will keep turning my shoulders 😂😂😂

[@gbone2636]

Did you watch the whole thing? You obviously are going to turn your shoulders, and he says as much. It's just the feel to help fix this specific problem. Watch his swings towards the end of the video. Still a full shoulder turn.@@maxsmart8954

[@AndrewDCDrummond]

Think there is aspects of left sidebend that occur if you start correctly, which you want. I also think the right hip shouldn't rotate but stay relatively straight on with the hip turn occuring with the left hip rotating into the right hip - i.e. internal rotation into the hip. Triggering transition in the lower body is automatic with the building tension in the backswing when that trail hip doesn't rotate around, but hard if it does.

[@jasonverbarg9790]

THIS 100% MY PROBLEM! GOOD VID!

[@MikeL-vu7jo]

great advise thanks

[@Mike.Croff2]

Great tip thanks

[@phehir9010]

Great video. Nice job. Did you ever decide on a driver between Titleist and Callaway or ...another one?

[@iowabowtech1]

I struggle with this constantly but on video, when I try to limit shoulder rotation, I end up with a flat shoulder plane. It's so frustrating. Can you provide an additional tip or drill to do all the things you said and ALSO maintain proper posture in both the backswing and downswing? Because to me, those 2 concepts feel like they fight each other.

[@georgerodriguez7588]

This is a really bad piece of advice . This thought will ruin swing and have people rushing and coming over the top a lot . Everybody has a different swing . Some people have a short backswing some people have a long back swing some break the wrist early some break the wrist late some start the arms first on the downswing some start the lower body and hips on the downswing like myself . Basically all of these instructors teach and believe in different ways of training and most of the guys I watch on here seem to just come up with new ideas all the time so they can post new videos and get payed 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@gbone2636]

This video is more of a fix, not a universal swing tip. The issue of over rotation too early in the golf swing isn't that common with amateurs because they usually struggle with rotation to begin with. This video really only applies to people suffering from that, shouldn't be applied universally. Really boils down to weird feels that sound counterintuitive to fix a problem, not to literally not turn your shoulders when you swing. Look at his swings towards the end of the video. There is still a full shoulder and hip turn happening, this is just to help people who do it too early.@@georgerodriguez7588

[@garysharp8024]

I have been using the L to L or thumbs up to up method trying to reduce swaying. Thanks for your video today! Where are you at trying to play on the senior tour?

[@rogerhoffstetter2807]

Nice setup mr short game.

[@poumpea9371]

Aiming more to right all good

[@toniesmothmusic]

Great drill

[@bcarr1817]

Thanks!

[@stefanomaniscalchi4983]

golf is already a very, very difficult sport and videos as this one make it even more difficult.Turn the shoulders without......turning the shoulders.I understand why Rick Shiels has in KZbin 3 m of subscribers.Clear , understandable and easy advises for the average 20 hp golfer

[@onesipwonder]

Man not sure why I never saw this video. I try to fix my takeaway from going inside. Thought it is my upper body or hands. It is actually my hip is moving along with the upper body. I guess I need to work on how to separate upper and lower

[@billcoulter1984]

Great stuff

[@eMan2718281828]

This was really good - I tried the quiet lower body thing and got a lot better striking and a better flight almost instantly. Does this translate to driver and fairway woods as well, or are there some adjustments that I would need to make for those?

[@carcher2232]

Is there a down swing trigger from the top? Arms down or rotate shoulder?

[@paybax]

Still trying for Seniors tour and getting lessons? Do some more matches too 👌

[@bryanlloyd6924]

My miss is a dead pull left. Club path of like -8

[@smokewagon47]

This is good!

[@thomastrain7311]

Good video but I really didn't want to watch it because of the title. I know so many guys that could do with watching this , but never will because of it. Just saying. Btw this is by far my favorite yt golf channel

[@dry509]

I don’t get the last sternum drill? It is not staying pointed at the ball? It is moving?

[@qbclay2]

my problem is a super negative club path. like if i can get up to -4 im happy, i live at mike -10 to -12

[@clintbaker291]

This is the one.

[@golfprochen]

Push it backward and pull it forward, during which linear action generates circular motions!

[@randyschwager2515]

Is the hat you are wearing in this video for sale anywhere?

[@markhuru]

This is counter intuitive to what long drivers say is tweak for more distance?

[@georgerodriguez7588]

This is bullshit ! You will be coming over the top and ruining your swing trying this nonsense. These KZbin instructors will say anything to get viewers 😂🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

[@azahansafetyman1161]

The mystery of my low deep take away is solved 🎉🎉🎉

[@jacoblee3463]

So when you say the hips are connected to the should, could releasing my hips too early in my down swing cause me to come across the ball or leave the face open causing me to miss right

[@MrShortGame]

Yes

[@jacoblee3463]

@@MrShortGame I have a real good feeling that’s the reason I miss right almost always

[@DJ-dc5gs]

This Video is super useful, but I also cannot help and laugh at the 3:45 voice lol

[@dry509]

I hit behind and top most of the time?

[@jasonfrishkorn2055]

I keep my hands low throughout the whole swing. I turned my shoulder stay on one spot and hit it dead straight every time

[@rosskaff]

More centered than in any other area of your life 😆

[@davidcole2337]

What Golf Similar Hardware are you using to provide Golf Path?

[@MrShortGame]

Trackman

[@ddeboy002]

If you don't turn your shoulders you can't use your hips. Yes move your hips for long shots-not for below 100yrds.

[@ShopDog1021]

That's contrary to what David leadbetter was teaching the good good boys....

[@GHOSTOFEIGHT]

Bro, WTF is up with these channels. Listen people… DO NOT listen to this. Both swings are good. Many of the greats have the “BAD” shoulder turn. Swing your own swing. Watching these videos without any proper personalized instruction is a recipe for disaster and inconsistency. If KZbinr golf lessons helped, most people wouldn’t be so bad at golf. Sorry to sabotage your video Short game but bro…. C’mon man.

[@juasauga80]

Absolutely. Turning the hips too early doesn't bring the club inside immediately. This is absolute nonsense

[@juasauga80]

And trust this. For these channels to continue they don't want to truly fix anyone's game. If they did, everyone would stop watching these ridiculous videos.

[@GHOSTOFEIGHT]

@@juasauga80 sounds like a pharmaceutical company. : )

[@georgerodriguez7588]

I agree! If you do this bullshit your going to pull the ball left a lot or probably hit thin shots because of the reverse k a lot of people will have . This dude must of ran out of ideas so he just made this shit up when he was sitting on his couch high drinking a glass of bourbon and coke and decided this would be a good idea to continue to get viewers to watch 😂🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

[@NRY91]

but every pro or professional golfer says you should always move both together. and for the over you take the racquet grip on the stomach and grip the racquet in the middle of the shaft and turn. so you practice the perfect backswing. your video just confuses me.

[@willgrant1828]

Yeah I don't know how strictly one should follow this. If you watch guys like Leadbetter they stress the most important thing in the first 1/3 of the takeaway is to do so using your bellybutton to stress that connection--quite the opposite of "just arms."

[@NRY91]

@@willgrant1828 Yes, I find this video conveyed incorrectly, it will certainly help some, but that is just fixing errors with another error. i like this channel a lot this is not hate.

[@aja5933]

He exaggerates a lot by saying not to turn the body at all the starting the swing with the hands and arms is great advice a lot of people need

[@juasauga80]

Turning the hips too early DOES NOT BRING THE CLUB INSIDE TOO MUCH. HINGING THE WRISTS TOO EARLY, BRINGS THE CLUB INSIDE TOO EARLY.

[@juasauga80]

Almost 100% of these videos are detrimental. From all these so called KZbin pros. Watch tour pro videos. Emulate their swings. These swing tip videos no matter who makes them are incredibly harmful if you want to find YOUR swing.

[@JJ_Khailha]

I get my arms inside on the way back to play a draw.

[@greghunter5966]

Your video shows your shoulder in the same position. Your hands were in the wrong position

[@Parrott65]

95% of golfers do this!

[@joshlynch5676]

Instruction has gone so overboard with the turning that people have their arms stuck behind their body and are "firing" their hips and flipping the club. I really don't understand youtube instruction sometimes. This is simple, this is what should be happening.

[@mbrum3230]

When will golf instructors learn that no one learns from a bunch of lines

[@mrcommonsense9074]

Conclusion. There’s a lot that can how wrong in golf

[@CDevine-jo3lq]

This is great...but you are clearly rotating your shoulders...its your hips that you are not using

[@elanss8706]

Turn you shoulders but don’t turn your shoulders

[@SunsTo7]

I'm sorry to say that everything that you said here is totally contradictive to what you have in older videos, what the heck?

[@georgerodriguez7588]

That’s because he ran out of ideas . So now he’s just saying to d the opposite. The crazy part is that people will actually listen to this nonsense 😂🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

[@georgewalker03]

OMG. What a load of crap.

[@georgerodriguez7588]

This is gonna have people coming over the top and pulling the ball left . Good luck listening to this crap 💩 😂🤦🏽‍♂️