Is Zionism compatible with democracy? | Head to Head

[@OmarAli-go6to]

"Benjamin Netanyahu pretends that he wants to negotiate with the Palestinians but he keeps expanding Israeli settlements. So he is like a man who pretends to negotiate over the division of a pizza and he keeps eating it." Avi Shlaim Thank you for your honesty.

[@SaifUllah-mb1wm]

You do realize you think like the Holy prophet right? Allah knows best.

[@florahavard456]

This is so he can bring more of those Europeans from Eourpe and different people's from Russia Poland Cascade mountains and every where else .and teach them the Hebrew language. Because they are plain white Gentiles Caucasian people's.

[@kokouaziaba2106]

Palestinian are Jordanians not from west bank

[@marcelleratafia2360]

partners in his coalitions like bennett say it more bluntly, in this respect and in others...

[@mohamedyusuf5141]

@Leon Harpley incredibly stupid, not even an argument. That is irrelevant

[@lisastjohn2076]

Medhi should do a retake on this very topic with the same panel of guests, today. Every minute of the Head to Head viewing would be priceless!

[@MAGHFOOR]

"Israeal negociating on pizza while eating it" So True

[@goldmaple4360]

Maghfoor Ahmed Israel should have all the pizza because it's delicious. Maybe save some or no crumbs for the Palestinians

[@ASKHIM3]

gold maple i think its good they stole that pizza from America anyways they pay for isreal lmao

[@weaponsdefender9538]

Maghfoor Ahmed ,that was a beautiful analogy.

[@matin1011]

you say you don't like anchovies

[@Amirotuber]

LOL

[@omarmouffok131]

27:00 They take a land, they claim it, then they make "concessions" of a land that doesn't belong to them in first place. Well said.

[@joshmellott8013]

Omar Mouffok it does belong to us partially. We are from Israel. That’s where our ancestry is.

[@muhammadwaraich5603]

Josh Mellott isrealis we’re gone from Palestine for 1000 years. This is not my number, this is a number from the history books. During the rule of ottomans everyone lives peacefully. Jews haven’t done the same. If Jews own Israel than native Americans should claim all of north and South America. They have only been gone for 200 years. Much less than the time period Israelis were gone from Palestine.

[@dykidk9401]

lol what muslim country didn't take land from its original people?

[@TTTan1]

@@muhammadwaraich5603 Israelis were the palestinian jews who were still around during that time.

[@fh7277]

@@muhammadwaraich5603 The whole problems facing Palestinians today is their own doing. If only they would have accepted what was fairly proposed by UNO in 1948 ,then they wouldn't be stuck in the problems which they have subconsciously built for themselves. Arabs need to give up their original plot of weeping the state of Israel from the face of the earth, instead accept the ground reality and get over their emotions!

[@nevillethomas1525]

Corbyn has never said a single statement which could be construed as hateful towards the Jewish people. The only reason he was targeted and called an anti-Semite is because he supports the rights of the Palestinian people to self determination and to be granted their basic human rights

[@nevillethomas1525]

@Yaron Zohar The real enemy of Israel is it’s own army. It drives it’s own people crazy in a way that 126 in the past 6 years committed suicide.

[@nevillethomas1525]

Israeli students to get $2,000 to spread state propaganda on Facebook

[@nevillethomas1525]

@Yaron Zohar Israeli students to get $2,000 to spread state propaganda on Facebook

[@alisonhilll4317]

All he said was the truth , it's so the zionazis don't like facts.

[@affahmed9627]

I agree with everything you say but should have been a little bit smarter he took the rabbit out of the hat before he could become Prime Minister

[@lscottschlager2147]

“There may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there must never be a time when we fail to protest.” ― Elie Wiesel

[@muslimtraditionalist]

Wiesel supports the illegal settlements. He isn’t a great choice when looking for moral guidance

[@kaziahmed1424]

@@muslimtraditionalist Lol...exactly

[@rogerdildeau7507]

Did you ever hear Weasle protest Zionist expansion?

[@shtetlcholoycd]

@@kaziahmed1424 he failed to protest!

[@cstew8355]

He is also I liar his book is fraud

[@muhamedfaour3710]

The answer to this conflict is boycott Israel until they obey international laws , not jungle laws

[@Haz3dNightfall]

Normalizing trade and diplomacy would have ended the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and brought birth to a Palestinian state a long time ago. The organized boycotting and shunning of Israel by the Arab League has only brought nothing but tension, conflict, and distrust. History has proven that when nations organize a boycott and shun other nations, It will only cause problems.

[@JBGodzilla]

The Arabs can't run a civilized state anywhere much less on Jewish soil. The Arabs shoud all go back to Arabia, their true homeland,

[@goldmaple4360]

muhamed faour The answer to this conflict is to expel all Palestinians. All that land is historic Israel from the Mediterranean to the river Jordan. The issue will then be resolved.

[@LiranZamir]

International law decided to split Israel into 2 state. Arabs challenged it and tried to destroy Israel in 1948 and they lost. If you are the aggressor and you lose you don't get to decide anything.

[@leon19736]

Layla W Who are you to tell who is real Jew or who is not? What is your connection to Jewdaizm

[@irufan14]

If most Israeli's were like Shlomo Ben Ami, I think we can have a two state solution. But unfortunately, like Avi Shlaim pointed out, Shlomo Ben Ami only represents a handful of people

[@thealligator918]

So far there haven't been a Palestinian state mainly because of Palestinians

[@jackkessler9876]

Arabs have been rejecting a two state solution since the Peel Commission in 1936, and again in 1947, 1967 1974, 2000, and 2003. The reason there is no two state solution is that the Palestinians have rejected it repeatedly. You make yourself ridiculous by suggesting Israel is the one refusing it.

[@freeeepalestine__]

@@jackkessler9876 imagine stealing someone’s house and telling them they can have the toilet and then cry when they reject it, you sound like a fool.

[@berliozmeister]

Well, same can be told about Mehdi Hasan and Palestinians, can’t it? There is a long way which should be gone by both sides, but it’s a good sign people start understanding that this the only possible way.

[@berliozmeister]

@@freeeepalestine__ Israel didn’t steal it. Israel took over it after it has won in several wars started by the Arabs. Same as France took over Strasbourg and Russia took over Königsberg after they defeated Germany. Should France return it to Germany? No. Same for Israel. However, Israel is obliged to provide equal rights and opportunities to all Palestinians living on her territory, which is obviously not happening now.

[@t3dwards13]

Great talk. Although I'm disappointed that no one had the balls to mention the talmud, noahide laws nor the fact that most Palestinians are "semites".

[@AudioFreqx]

Semite primarily refers to language.

[@florahavard456]

Yes that is why you hate them so much you don't know what love your neighbors is that is why you are fighting all the time.

[@florahavard456]

That's a big tail or should I say something that's a big lie they was there before the Jewish coverts people's were that's for sure.

[@alexandrasymeon5893]

@@AudioFreqx Arabs are semites, they say Jews are not and are from Europe.

[@AudioFreqx]

@@alexandrasymeon5893 Reinforcing my comment even more.

[@birdlynn417]

Thank you, for this very informative talk. I learned a lot. I stand with Palestine, and we should boycott Israel, they should have accountability. Israel is out of control.

[@thenetanel1996]

read about Muslim conquest of the Levant. and learn that the arab palestines are conquerers.try to figure out who was in israel first.. isralies or arab palestines?

[@bundevsawhney7578]

@@thenetanel1996 Jews and Palestinians are incredibly genetically similar...just because the population got Arabized culturally doesn't mean they're colonizers themselves

[@thetruth9939]

@@thenetanel1996 as if jews didn't conquer the levant and weren't originally from there, the only orginal there were the canaanites and arabs derive from canaanites just were arabized

[@jackkessler9876]

Does it bother you that everyone but you knows you're a dupe?

[@stopdeforestation]

​@@bundevsawhney7578 wrong religion cannot exist on DNA. there is no such thing as Jewish descent

[@Unknown124k]

Clearly it's been failing for 75 years. You invite someone to live by you and he throw you out and tell you not even to live on the stoep in front of your house. He want you gone and should be happy he let you live

[@nathelondon3719]

Yeah the Mufti of a Jerusalem invited the Jews

[@Jordan23-G.O.A.T.]

this is the first Israeli, Jewish leader that's part of and a supporter of Zionism that speaks the truth and accept responsibility. I applaud this guy.

[@1961Bullet]

He represents under 2% of Zionists - Mehdi Hassan. This I believe is true, after watching Netanyahu, the Knesset (save one member), Israeli spokespersons (UK especially), generals and conscripts.

[@dragonfly1929]

NATANYAHOU IS A CURSE ,WICH CANNOT END WELL

[@mrsbrownandhercat]

Correction: the ideology of zionism is a Jewish homeland in Palestine. Regardless of whether a religion should have a state, the sanctity of someone else's homeland should not be violated.

[@rebekahhakeber5093]

Said the American ... which tribes land do you live on ?

[@ewancummins7106]

@@rebekahhakeber5093 Unlike the Zionist state, America is a country for all its people.

[@cyruslagranda9717]

​@@ewancummins7106 Exactly unlike the native Palestinians, at least American Indians are free in a country that's for all its people unlike the racist Apartheid state called Israel that was created for JEWS-ONLY and have Palestinians imprisoned in the world's largest concentration camp!

[@makedonistoi]

mrs brown,u again,the jewish homeland was conquered by many nations,the last being arab islam jihad,the torah,bible and quran says it is israel,home of jewish people

[@shepherdstv2342]

Palestine should trace their history. Did they just drop from heaven? Israel history can be googled and interact with. I see them as migrating people who settled in the land of Israel after the series of wars that captured the kings of Judah and Israel and let the Jews into Exile. The people just returned to their homeland. They should just find a way to live happily instead of yearly bloodshed and poisoning of the younger generations mind. In times in memorial , people have been fighting wars and displacing people and taking territories. Russia hearnes crimea in n recent year, Palestine had nothing to say and the Arab world kept quiet. China is forcing himself on smaller territories and the world has not come to an end. Until Palestine becomes responsible and reasonable not allowing sentiment and religion to becloud their minds, peace and prosperity is available to them. I am just an objective observer.

[@lo.fr.8092]

And just recently Netanyahu admitted that he is very proud of never wanting a 2 state solution or any solution at all.

[@kenosabi]

"Israel is a special case" Yeah that's sorta what it always comes back to: "it's fine when we do it".

[@faryarahman6399]

I just like the pizza 🍕 analogy. 😂

[@alexandrasymeon5893]

I think of Pizza Gate

[@kiborstefangideonkemboi3818]

A very good anology

[@kristJ25]

Me too 👍

[@KoiNadi]

will there be a solution during my lifetime? ..... I have more hope in a cure for cancer mate....

[@hamzarazzak5485]

there is a cure for cancer. marijuanna oils.

[@1280honey]

I definitely would like to think so

[@OmarAli-go6to]

A thief who takes your home and has all the guns he needs will not give it up to the homeowner who is demanding his home by being peaceful or by using a slingshot.

[@KoiNadi]

Omar Ali Your example is so sad uet so true 😢

[@JBGodzilla]

Arab lies. The Arabs stole the homes of a million Jews in Iraq, Morocco, Egypt, libya, Syria and all Musim lands. Nobody cares about what happened to the Jews of the Middle East.

[@aqsaijaz3082]

How I wish all Israelis will be like him.

[@abukarali3558]

The world discusses if thief acknowledges what they have stolen or not and if their actions were horrible during stealing. When will the justice will back to live as it was already buried.

[@tiberio135]

The 2 state solution is a DEAD dream. Israel needs to ABSORB all Palestinians. Period. Full rights not only "under the law" but in REAL terms. It's true that the Palestinians were offered 3 times their own state. But, what no one mentioned is that Palestinians would have had a state with virtually NO sovereignty or autonomy...don't even talk about BASIC resources control. It would have been a state TOTALLY controlled by Israel, let's be honest.

[@JBGodzilla]

Israel needs to deal with the Arabs th way Muhammad dealt withi the Jews of Arabia. They have to be beheaded and kicked out period,

[@lenitaa7938]

@@JBGodzilla That is not true! It happened on one occasion when a certain Jewish tribe atacked Mohammed and his people! All the Jewish tribes got together with Mohammad and he asked them what the punishment ought to be!

[@lenitaa7938]

@@goldmaple4360 Hate much?

[@JBGodzilla]

@@lenitaa7938 The first big Muslim lie! Muhammad needed money to unite the Arab tribes behind him. Originally when he came to the town of Yathrib, possibly founded by Jewish immigrants, they welcomed him because he was a monotheist. He hoped he would have their support and money behind him. But they had no interest in his war with his own tribe of Quraysh in Mecca. And they did not like his claim of being a prophet like in the Bible. Later he used an excuse to rob and eventually behead hundreds of them. And finally all Jews were robbed of their lands and wealth and ethnically cleansed out.

[@1suitcasesal]

Great video. Very interesting to hear the differing opinions.

[@altonbenjamin8836]

How anything can be resolved if they listen to the international community. The international bodies of the world must bring justice.

[@khaoula490]

The morality is not allowed when we talk about palestiniens. But when it's the Jews and talk about Holocaust it's all about morality to justify the sioniste agenda and state

[@jamoin4310]

WTF the Jewish people in Poland in the Ghettos at the Holocaust would have dreamed to live like the Palestinians what the fck are you comparing here? Freakin Antisemite Israel does more for the Palestinians then Hamas and the rest of the PLO.

[@greenland8002]

In 1943 a poster have these words ”Freedom, Justice, and Bread for Our Nation”. Before that "Hate and Destruction for Our Enemies”. ”This war is about more than our daily bread, our living space, and our peace. More than ever before we have to defend our most valuable possessions, the things that make life worth living, without which human life is meaningless...”, H.Goebbels said in 1943. Between 1921 and 1925 Adolf Hitler developed the belief that Germany required Lebensraum ('living space') in order to survive. Only 40 years later, Jews say that Israel need vital space for security reasons. Expansive form of Zionism is like “Lebensraum” , the vital space doctrine of nazism. If we change the particular words ”germans” and ”East” with ”Jews” and ”The ancestral land”, or with ”jews safe homeland” we have the similar doctrine. This is a sad irony.

[@davidnavon5250]

One flaw in your theory: Israel returned land twice as big as itself to Egypt. By the way. The distance between Tel Aviv and the west bank is shorter than the distance between London and Heathrow...Libesraum? Give me a break...

[@greenland8002]

@@davidnavon5250 Nakba

[@francishallare204]

Horea Hudrea if jews are so commited to lebensraum then why stop at west bank? Ancient israelite kingdom extended into syria , jordan and saudi arabia from nile to euphrates. You mentioned nakba where palestinians were told to move and sit by as arab forces went into war with israel promised that rivers of blood and pushing jews into the sea the opposite happened never fight a war you can't win.

[@thedavid00100]

There is a gross overbearing prominence of the Ashkenazim experience in Christian Europe over all other Jewish ethnic groups. They speak as if only European jewry matters

[@karthikmk1839]

"You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain."

[@sherronpitts3021]

Palestinians were NEVER given an acceptable offer.

[@glitch3809]

So the Peel commission, the 181 solution, the camp david offer and the 2008 offers aren't acceptable?

[@mohamedyusuf5141]

@@glitch3809 nope.

[@glitch3809]

@@mohamedyusuf5141 The peel commission gave the arabs 70% of the mandate, including Jordan, not acceptable?

[@ABDULKARIM-qx2kd]

All offer are given by America. Which are allows pro - israeli

[@mohamedyusuf5141]

@@glitch3809 why must the give up what's rightfully theirs?

[@Fellowtellurian]

SHORT ANSWER. NOOOOOOOOO

[@rayyanahmedyahaya6366]

He keeps negotiating on a pizza and keeps eating 🤣🤣🤣 This man described Isreal in a simple way 🤣🤣🤣

[@BibiRojan-pf2lh]

They negotiating and he still taken more of their lands .

[@thorakvideos2495]

This is such a clear example of the difference between a right-wing & left-wing discussion. They both cling to an abhorrent idea (zionism), but all the demonisation, insults, etc. are replaced with a calm debate.

[@michaelangelo7431]

It’s refreshing to see so many people understanding what’s going on, and that there’s a large scale station that will organize and report these topics along with the ugly truth connected to them. Down with Zionism

[@thealligator918]

Zionism is the beliefe that Jews should have their own country in Israel. Is it such a bad thing?

[@mortef]

Zionism was that belief until israel got formed, what zionism is today equals apartheid, racism and human rights violations.

[@robertvarga9843]

I love Mehdi s report's, you ve never seen more inconvenient people to answer him ❤❤❤

[@TheKeithvidz]

i support jews opposing zionism - coopting western politicians, ruling the finances, apartheid.

[@JamesBond-qg5gx]

Mr. Avi Shlaim is very intellectual person 👍👍

[@aarondixon2731]

Thank you for offering me my own land.

[@bubaq3713]

Yours based on what?

[@singhatar0912]

@@bubaq3713 based on the fact that Palestinians have been there for thousands of years kid

[@bubaq3713]

@@singhatar0912 ah i tought he was talking about zionists i agree im strong protagonist of the Palestinian independence .... God bless you

[@gabriell7640]

@@singhatar0912 jews have been there for thousands of years. Jews are indigenous to ancient JUDEA (called like that for a reason), modern day Israel. Palestinians are Arabs. Arabs come from the Arabian peninsula

[@gabriell7640]

@@megaplasma1942 That’s not true. The only thing you get right is that it’s true that you get some Jewish dna in Palestinian populations, but this is certainly not the majority of it. Either way, they are related to Jews genetically, just like any other Arab population. And some consider Jews their cousins. Gentetic studies on Jews: “For populations of the Jewish diaspora, the genetic composition of Ashkenazi, Sephardi, and Mizrahi Jewish populations show significant amounts of shared Middle Eastern ancestry.[1][2][3] According to Behar and colleagues (2010), this is "consistent with a historical formulation of the Jewish people as descending from ancient Hebrew and Israelites of the Levant" and "the dispersion of the people of ancient Israel throughout the Old World".[4][5]” Ashkenazi Jews are the light-skinned Jews you are referring to. You may be confused for their light skin and consider them european, but this is not an exclusively European trait (Asians, for example, are not caucasians, and yet have light-skin) and genetic studies confirm that they are much more related to other Jewish populations and even Arabs than to Europeans.

[@danielelotti9992]

this is the most blatantly unbiased debate in the world

[@luismijares1461]

I really don't think Ben Ami made any argument as to how you can reconcile a very exclusivist project like Zionism with liberalism

[@JayBugi]

Shlomo acknowledged some of the improprieties.. he also mentioned three times palestinians rejected the 2 state deal.. Progress starts with acknowledging mistakes and like Saeb Ekran said in interview with Mahdi, we have to learn from our mistakes moving forward. It is the only way to resolve conflicts. we all need eachother. Love is all.

[@jackkessler9876]

Saeb Arekat pretends to be a reasonable moderate but has supported every Hamas terrorist attack. Maybe he's not entirely sincere?

[@evanroberts2771]

Why were they rejected? Because Israel demanded the Palestinians give up a right that is the very foundation of Israel. The right of return.

[@jdubstash]

Israel mistreats the Ethiopian jews

[@aimformyheadplease]

Yikes! I thought the to of the former IDF lieutenant's head was going to blow clear off his head from the very first word he spoke! If that was controlled aggression, I'd hate to see his uncontrolled aggression, from his demeanor I'd guess it was spent probably kicking elderly Palestinian women in the back.

[@christineplaton3048]

ABSOLUTELY NOT.

[@muhdyusuf9294]

I wonder what happened to mehdi's energy in this debate, he seemed unusual

[@levantq5972]

i think he is sad

[@boliussa]

He wasn't sure who to attack and with what.

[@nunamorais4392]

The woman in the red is absolutely right

[@halifaxeh]

Diana Buttu

[@whatwhyandwhos68]

not 1 of my Australian Dollars is spent on ANY Israeli product………NOT ONE

[@joshmellott8013]

Do you have a phone and a navigation device, if so, you are contributing to Israel’s economy :)

[@joannemuwanga3673]

😂😂😂

[@Thedownliner2015]

Paul sounds like a Politician :P Never a yes or no answer.

[@orbitsnoogslaghouse1188]

He seemed like a sensible guy. I guess we will wait to see what happens with the touted, deal of the century. Who knows?

[@winstonwood27]

A great session

[@blackvelvet3541]

GREAT JOB MEHDI.🦋

[@peterlagogiannis6973]

Bravo Mehdi

[@charlespirate1]

Much of the same applies to Pakistan (and Bangladesh by extension). They were carved out of a bigger territory to be home to just one religion. The rights of the indigenous people of other religions being trampled on.

[@omarfaruk6020]

Well said Mehedi Hasan .. May Allah bless you

[@makedonistoi]

what an accursed people u must be,to take the only jewish nation away from the people of abraham,to twist history to eradicate israel,yahweh is watching u sir

[@jamesscott7616]

No, Israelis or at least the Zionists cannot be Democratic,

[@amsamsamamsamsam8022]

Asking any zionist for Palestinian rights and justice is like asking the thief to return his theft and apologize without a just court to rule.

[@thealligator918]

You think Jews stole Palestinian land? If so, please answer to me why Palestinians decleared a war on Israel the day it was established?

[@mortef]

@@thealligator918 Because Israel started the ethnic cleansing 'al-nakba' the very same day the british left.

[@boliussa]

well some Jews recognise that arabs see them as theives, and that those arabs want israel and jews eliminated, and they act pre-emptively to avoid that outcome.

[@NomadicShanko]

😳”Settling the Land” or STEALING THE LAND from its actual owners😳

[@nathelondon3719]

The land was stolen from the Jews by the Romans 600 years before Mohammed was born

[@jonathaneffemey944]

Thanks for posting

[@barnetlondon5574]

thank yu FM for been honest (as much :)).

[@halifaxeh]

Diana Buttu ❤ Avi Shlaim 🙌👏👏👏👏

[@chugalongway01]

Diana Buttu nails it at 28:04

[@athinaantoniadou1050]

7 years ago.....is this guy in jail????

[@UmarAlFarooq]

Shlomo Ben Ami says "The rapist and the victim must share the responsibility for the crime".

[@JBGodzilla]

Stinking Jewihs leftists are your only hope. They thnk the stupidest thoughts just like Arabs only stupider.

[@UmarAlFarooq]

JBGodzilla Sure, Arabs think stupid thoughts but you are worse than them.

[@JBGodzilla]

That's almost impossible.

[@UmarAlFarooq]

JBGodzilla What can I say, you're amazing to have achieved the almost impossible.

[@stanleyhood4343]

There's a good way to promote rape: hold the victim just as responsible as the rapist.

[@estheracosta6510]

Now ! There's Only Now. Love you all E.

[@qazizaahirah4168]

The pizza example makes so much sense 29:50

[@Firedotmon]

qazi zaahirah moor

[@JRF1961]

I'm still trying to figure out what the difference is between Pan-Arab Nationalism and Zionism. Not only that, but the Arabs (as well as the Persians and Turks) are doing the same thing to the Kurds and nobody seems to be bothered by that at all. Go figure.

[@thealligator918]

Muslim hypocriticsy at its best

[@jvs333]

TOO BAD!! CNN/ MSNBC Won’t give you a show like this today.

[@nevermore1974.]

Arab countries expelled Jews because they saw Palestinian Arabs being persecuted and expelled from the region. Jews have always lived in Arab states and kingdoms with relative justice and peace. and contributed much to the development of these countries. it was england and the discriminatory policies of European and American nations that contributed to the massive flight of Jews from various parts of the world. mainly after the Second World War.

[@Hayanomie]

Exactly. Jews were granted exclusive rights to write their own religious laws for their communities in what was known as "dhimmis"

[@ranvorms2242]

@@Hayanomie Dhimmi was not so generous as you described it. Basically, it subjected the Jews into 3rd class citizens. You should read about the Dhimmi rules. Although it is true that because Jews were monotheistic people they weren't forced to convert or to mass genocide. Thank you for not genociding us, I guess.

[@Hayanomie]

@@ranvorms2242 ideally it's meant to be a privilege and a benefit, not a form of subjugation or second class citizenship. Dhimmi literally means "protected class"

[@ranvorms2242]

@@Hayanomie True, the monotheistic religions under Islam were protected - in comparison with non-monotheists who were forced to choose between death and conversion. But that does not mean it helped the Jews. They were treated in a very disgraceful way that even the evil dictators of the 20th century would not have imagined. I mean, they were allowed to be Jews, but the question is how they were allowed to be Jews. Neither I nor you would want to live under the rules of the dimma in any way.

[@Hayanomie]

@@ranvorms2242 dhimma exists but it's called being a minority in a capitalist country and biggest difference is most poor people serve in the military to get some form of income and education whereas dhimmis didn't serve

[@Astrostevo]

4 minutes 48 seconds mark. Fun fact : There is actually such a thing as hot ice - its believed to make up the interior of a number of exoplanets and forms under extremely high pressures.

[@rjayor]

That’s the current situation exactly. There is no two state solution option. That’s been out the window a long time ago. What we are seeing now is apartheid. I’m new to this subject but being from the us I was blindly pro Israel. Now there are many in the US viewing that struggle for themselves and now know Israel has crimes to answer to.

[@Proudarse]

Mehdi Hasan is like Batman, only better!

[@edoblaauw4561]

Haha explain

[@Proudarse]

@@edoblaauw4561 Well for starters Mehdi has more intellect than Batman and would therefore easily beat Batman in a debate and break him down psychologically! Even Joker manages to toy with Batman and he more often than not falls for it! If you think about it Batman is actually pretty dumb! 👀

[@edoblaauw4561]

@@Proudarse I agree but Mehdi Hasan doesn’t have a batcave

[@Proudarse]

@@edoblaauw4561 Maybe not but he doesn't need it! 🤭

[@roerdomp16e]

Big mistake... the 1948 borders were never internationally recognized. Not even by Israel which has continually refused to state what its borders are. Yes, countries have recognized them. It was just a border created by an armistice agreement. And it was a lot more than was awarded to a Jewish State based on the UN partition plan. And expelling 700.000 people from their land and homes, cities and villages was also not part of the UN partition plan.

[@OneEphraimite]

Canaanites have simply returned back to their ancestral homeland, but instead of declaring that reality they’ve managed to incrementally throughout history after their last empire of Khazaria and prior to that their emigration from Carthage and Phoenicia proper, to systematically perform the biggest identity theft in history by declaring themselves under the identity of the Judahites of whom they were converted into learning their Laws, Judicial order, and social make up. They would later title themselves *_“Iews, ieus, Jews”_* in commemoration to the Black Judean who helped them in their conversion from their perverted practices to the Hebraic Black Judean culture.

[@jackkessler9876]

Is it possible that you are an ignorant bigot who doesn't know what he is talking about?

[@Ttbaebae]

35:30 When it suits Israel arguments, we need to go to the origin of the movie. But in 2023, apparently the story starts on October 7. 🙄

[@ashleyKennedy5]

Ingathering of [Jewish] exiles? Problem is there was no Jewish exile. As Cassius Dio noted 1800 years ago there are no Judeans they are all converts.

[@deborahdean8867]

Truth. And 70% in israel have EUROPEAN DNA. Only 3% have DNA from the middle east.

[@sudipjang7867]

Al Jazeera talking about democracy sounds awkward, considering where it is getting its funding. Talking about democracy, Except Indonesia there is no stable democratic Muslim country.

[@brandowag3]

Why not making a free city of Jerusalem governed by the four Faith's that claim sovereignty to share general freedom of faith and practice, and maybe power. And stop expanding your borders. And in practice treat Palestinians like humans with a two state solution.

[@yadusolparterre]

Because this was offered 5 times and every time Palestinians refused

[@nathelondon3719]

When Jordan ruled East Jerusalem from 1948 to 1967 they destroyed 24 synagogues and didn't allow Jews access to the Western Wall

[@dandaintac388]

We need to remember that Zionism, by definition, is about establishing and preserving a Jewish state. Ask yourself, what if the US decided we were going to be a White Christian state (depending on whether you want to define Judaism as an ethnicity or religion). Would any liberal call a "White Christian" state a democracy? And frankly, would the Jews in America call such a state a democracy? Of course they wouldn't. And I would be right with them on that. An ethnostate CANNOT be a democracy. In a democracy, everyone must be equal before the law. You cannot have 5 million people in your country who have no rights. And let's be honest--Israel has made the West Bank part of Israel. All of the inhabitants are now residents--but those who are not Jewish do not get to be citizens--they have no rights. For those people, Israel is not a democracy--it is a tyranny.

[@nathelondon3719]

There are 70 Christian states. 56 Muslim states. But one tiny Jewish state bothers you doesn't it.

[@halifaxeh]

That is white Christians are aiming for in the US!

[@0rganopleno]

Zionism means striving for a Jewish state. What that state should look like is another question. Theoretically it could be a dictatorship. What you are really trying to ask is: does Zionism strive for an exclusively Jewish state, or can there be non-Jewish minorities in a Jewish country? And if so, should they have the same rights as Jews?

[@nunamorais4392]

Israel does not allow Palestine's in their Hospitals even on Palestine land...Zionism is Fascism

[@deborahdean8867]

Zionism is more than that. It's based on the belief that the jewish RACE is superior to all others . They are more racial supremacists than the nazis or the KKK in the US. I've studied under 3 rabbis. It was an eye opener.

[@conscientiousthinker3473]

Good questions

[@rajajain323]

ALL THE MIDDLE EAST IS BLEEDING WITH DEMOCRACY....WHAT A JOKE!!

[@tazmanrehman]

My friend were there's oil Gold Lithium Opium Nikel Copper Gas uranium etc etc etc there will be blood shed ask the indigenous American Indians and Africans who are rich in Diamond and Gold yet are not allowed water it's a form of ethinic cleansing legalised by western governments today they hide behind there proxy armies majority unwanted fire arms and medicine's are sold to Africa to keep the nation dumb and on it's knees

[@davidsalcido383]

Raja Jain: “LED by the UNITED 🐍’s 🇺🇸/🇮🇱 War Addicted TERRORISTS.”

[@Aussie_Truth]

Jews are not an ethnic group, like the Japanese, Irish, and even an Arab identifies itself. Jews are a religious group like Christianity and Islam. An Arab isn't necessarily a Muslim, and an Irish person isn't necessarily Catholic. Just because some Israeli Jew's claim Israel is the Jewish state and Jews are an ethnic group. Science and genetics prove this statement 💯 false. An Iraqi Jew does not have the same ethnicity as a European Jew. Their only connection is their faith. I'm sick and tired of the Israelis continually saying that they hope to one day live in peace with the Palestinians, while at the same time continuing to treat them as prisoners on their own land, and if a Palestinian dares to say they have the right to defend themselves against Jewish aggression, they will be attacked, and beaten and thrown in prison. However, whenever Israel bombs and attacks the Palestinians, Israel immediately comes out saying that they have the right to defend themselves. So why is that? Israel has the right of defence, but the Palestinians don't 🤔 Hmm, that doesn’t seem fair, does it?

[@halifaxeh]

Occupiers don’t get to claim self-defense

[@halifaxeh]

And Jews are racist against other Jews, so that shows how they’re truly a “race” they are a religious group filled with a lot of racists!

[@wilvannatta4215]

Zionism holds the same basic racist views as Nazism, and have been more successful since the US also holds those views.

[@0rganopleno]

Not quite. Nazi's based their ideology on the idea of genetic superiority of a people, while Jews base their ideology on the idea of religious superiority of a people.

[@jackkessler9876]

Did you know that people who say what you just said are universally regarded as racist morons?

[@deborahdean8867]

@@0rganopleno actually upure wrong. I've studied under 3 rabbis and jews consider Jewishness to be a RACIAL thing. You are born a jew by a jewish mother. You can be an instant ke or a secular jew or an atheist jew, but you're still a jew. And the real ironic thing is that istael, because bring s jew is a racial thing, is THE most DNA tested nation. And DNA shows 70% of the Israeli jews are Europeans, not middle east, so NONE of their ancestors EVER lived in the middle east anywhere! The only time Jews were evrr discriminated against was by the Christians in europe in the middle ages and by the nazis in ww2 . They act like everywhere they go they've always been persecuted by the world. Its simply not true.

[@Mistyfire]

This is just the best

[@VincentIrkallaOfficial]

Short answer: no Long answer: _NOOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOOOooooooＯＯＯＯＯＯＯＯｏｏｏｏｏｏθθθθθθθθθθθooooooooooo_ ... no.

[@andys2151]

World peace starts from free strong PALESTINE 🇵🇸.....

[@LiranZamir]

Is Islamism compatible with west European democracy ? Is it acceptable that Muslim immigrants to the US and western Europe try to force Sharia law instead of the state law ? Democracy means that the majority sets up the roles while protecting the rights of the minority. Democracy does not have to give the minority the right to force the minority roles.

[@mustimon]

No such thing as uslamism! Its a word made up in jewish thinktanks and dpread thrue jewish media.

[@jackkessler9876]

@@mustimon Then why do people like Hamas use 'Islamists' to describe themselves? It is bad enough that you are a liar. But being both stupid and a liar is unforgivable.

[@masoodhassan7520]

One peoples were expelled to make room for an other people on gunpoint is a sad story of history when an illegal occupier (British) handed over another peoples land to outsiders.

[@deborahdean8867]

Britain and king charlie should par restitution to the Palestinians as well as Israel.

[@woodensurfer]

If Zionism in Israel is now in the same social status as segregation is in the USA, then Zionism, the defeat of which, could be compatible to democracy.

[@joshmellott8013]

woodensurfer Zionism is not segregation! It’s the right for the Jews to have a state! We have been disenfranchised for 2 MILLENNIA and frankly, it’s the least you could do.

[@xXAscendingPhoenixXx]

@@joshmellott8013 You don't have the right to displace people because of your antiquated beliefs buddy

[@woodensurfer]

@@joshmellott8013 Do the Hawaiians and blacks have the same right to have their state?

[@riokriok2863]

what democratic they talking about Israel is theocracy and ethnography period

[@nathelondon3719]

In Israel an Arab judge sent a former president to prison. That's democracy. When was the last election in the Palestinian Territories?

[@tedming3515]

There is such a term as "fair trade". In view of this it would be logical to ask that Palestinian woman in red jacket: "If Israel allowed refugee Palestinians to come back to their homes, would all those Jews who had to flee their homes in neighbouring countries of Egypt, Jordan, Lybia, etc. be allowed to come back to their homes too? Would they be safe living there again? I think everybody in Arab world knows the answer. That's why they prefer to keep quiet about it, talking all the time only about one side of the deal.

[@grahamt5924]

Good point.

[@deficrypto1234]

There is no law preventing Jews from returning to Arab lands. Jews were safe in Arab lands till Zionists started their project.

[@sana-if7rb]

I wouldnt want those zionist monsters back after the horrors they inflicted on helpless palestinians.

[@Mimi-nr6jx]

Shouldn’t you direct that question to Libyans & Egyptians? Why should Palestinians answer for them?

[@tedming3515]

@@Mimi-nr6jx Because Palestinians are the ones who maintain the "discussion" primarily, that's why. Besides, you know perfectly well why Lybians and Egyptians and most of the Arab world embarked on that campaign of persecuting and evicting Jews from places where they dwelt for centuries. Don't pose as naive here.

[@mohamedelhassan1220]

Nazism IS Zionism! You are NO BETTER than Hitler! Isn’t that Ironic?!

[@ranvorms2242]

Aren't you stupid?!

[@deborahdean8867]

Totally agree. Its amazing more people dont see that. What's more amazing is that the European refugee Jews came directly to palestine and did the EXACT same thing the nazis did to them! And after crying tp the world to save them!

[@DTL9164]

Mehdi completely misinterprets the definition of Zionism - even worse, when he talks about Zionism, he never seems to have have a fixed idea of what it really is. One moment, it's about the (re-)establishment of Israel in 1948; then, its about supporting the Israeli government's policies; then, its about dispossessing/discriminating/ethnically cleansing/enforcing apartheid against Palestinians in order to keep a Jewish majority.

[@woodensurfer]

I do think Zionism can be democratic only if the Jewish culture is not designed to be preserved and is designed to diluted by assimilation, by policy and declaration. Such is not the case however. That is to say, the definition of Zionism must be that of a mere historically event, not a current ideal.

[@ranvorms2242]

Why should the Jewish people build their own state and diluted and assimilate their unique culture after so many years in the diaspora? I guess you don't ask other people to do it.

[@woodensurfer]

@@ranvorms2242 Most stateless people eventually assimilate. Why not the Jews? Woody Allen, his self-amusing Jewish jokes, Dianne Keaton, Mia Farah, and his Asian wife, should be the beacon to satisfying the Jewish problem. That is, the proverbial long-longed blondes' attack on the Jewish identity. If every stateless defeated people on earth were granted a homeland, the world would not exist as it is; the USA will have to disintegrate. The US Senate rejected the Akaka Bill of 2000 so that the Hawaiians will have to assimilate, and there was the coercive busing of children to dilute cultures. The same should have happened to the Jews. Now Israel has become a fundamental and detrimental condition for the world.

[@ranvorms2242]

@@woodensurfer Wow Wow wow. I'm in total shock. 1. "Most stateless people eventually assimilate" - True, this is very sad. I deeply believe in the right of every ethnic group to create a framework in which they can exercise their sovereignty. Culture is completely expressed only controls itself. This is all the more true of civilizations, there is no civilization that does not have at least one state and the Jewish people deserve one to be in their homeland. 2. Oh, here I definitely agree with you. Woody Allen's jokes are great. 3. "should be the beacon to satisfy the Jewish problem" - I thank you very much for advising the Jewish people in this way. But unfortunately, Professor, unfortunately we are forced to reject your proposal. like WTF - and I apologize for being rude - in what right are you demanding from a people to give up its own state? For us, the Jews, our identity and our culture are much more than Woody Allen's jokes. I will dare to add that jokes haven't helped us so much throughout history 4. "If every stateless defeated people on earth were granted a homeland, the world would not exist as it is;" - In this case, the territorial integrity of the United States - or of any other country justifies it. If Palestine was a sovereign independent state in the 19th and 20th centuries then probably a Jewish state within this sovereign area was not such a good idea. But that is not what it was, Erets Yisrael/Palestine was a remote area within the Ottoman Empire. Not exactly an independent state - a sovereign state who wants to break away from it. I'm sure we would both support the Akaka bill if it came up before the United States became sovereign or conquered Hawaii. Today, they are already in a sovereign state, and breaking away from it is impossible. This is also the reason why Catalonia will not become independent - at least not in the visible medium. But we should support their efforts for some form of autonomy. 5. "The same should have happened to the Jews." - Your advice to my people and its dignity is in place, but I do not want my people, my civilization, my culture to be "dilute". Sorry but I'm just not interested in that. - I'm very, very happy to see in 2022 still people who hold imperialist views. I thought there were no more. But I'm even happier that you and your attitudes will disappear - at worst - in another 50 years. And the Jewish people, culture, and state will continue to prosper. -Hope you understood -Have a nice day

[@nathelondon3719]

Whereas democracy reins in Muslim states!

[@TheENDAmac]

Wow and look where we are now in May 2024

[@user-pj7zj6wz1l]

Is Islam compatible with democracy??

[@thealligator918]

Nope

[@grahamt5924]

I think not.

[@grbbbc]

Ask Hamas.

[@BrandonLack]

It’s not

[@vilhojames1899]

2000 years ago, they destroyed Israelite state and chased away the Jews. Then mysteriously, The Return of The Jews happened. Well, the Biblical Verses explain that.

[@deborahdean8867]

The biblical verses also explain why God divorced Israel and cursed their statehood.

[@Annapurna818]

No it is not. These people are evil.

[@thomasellner6331]

Everyone seems to forget that in 1947 the U.N. voted to establish two states , however, 5 Arab states invaded ; the idea that hostile Arabs would be allowed to immigrate to Israel is insane .

[@deficrypto1234]

The UN had no right to give a middle Eastern territory to European Settlers and immigrants.

[@deficrypto1234]

Arabs weren't hostile till they ethnically cleansed. Benny Morris clearly stated ( Righteous Victims) that ethnic cleansing or 'transfer' was inbuilt into Zionism.

[@JeffHersch]

@@deficrypto1234 there were Jews there already

[@deficrypto1234]

@@JeffHersch Yes, middle Eastern Jews who didn't want a state, lived harmoniously with the Palestinians and had no plans to ethnically cleanse their neighbours. They were orthodox, indigenous and even spoke Arabic. The European Jews were immigrants and settlers.

[@francishallare204]

@@deficrypto1234 Is that why Husseini organized pogroms during 1929?

[@michaelcolunga3854]

The Palestinian people are still hostile to Israelis. This is one chapter of the long history of hatred towards the Jews in a re-framed context. This nation is far from perfect with it's dealings with the Palestinian people. However, there is a larger narrative than just Israel vs Palestine. Respect to Palestinians, Israelis and everyone that is unspoken of or considered. Thanks to this program and Mehidi Hasan!

[@imanlah4803]

Jews lived with Palestinians with no issues before 1948 and in the rest of the Arab world it was Zionism that changed that

[@deficrypto1234]

If 700,000 of ur people were ethically cleansed and never let back, u would be hostile too.

[@blacky93able]

@@imanlah4803 Have you forget the 1929 Hebron massacre or 1936-1939 Arab revolt in Palestine? Muslim Arabs, especially in that area, will never agree to live in equality, they can't, it's against their scriptures! And they have not had a period of Enlightenment like the Jews and Christians! They only understand domination and nothing else!

[@imanlah4803]

@@blacky93able 😂😂😂 Enlightenment . I don't speak to racists fascist Islamphobes

[@blacky93able]

@@imanlah4803 If I were, I wouldn't be talking to you, would I? 😝😝😝😝

[@mhebamheba2729]

The nazism mutated into zionism

[@deborahdean8867]

I think they're the same .

[@HOOTH2]

No Apartheid state.Zionism is not just Jewish.That woman says it well.