All About Dart Points

[@WorldwideDarts]

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[@greggsmith7388]

A repointing tool is the single best investment a steel tip darter can own! It will open up so many possibilities. Experiment with super cheap black Designa points at different lengths. You won’t be sorry!

[@CraigTheCaterpillar]

Discount code still works 5 months later.

[@IzroneI]

A few weeks ago I started wanting to learn about points and looked to see if you had a video on it. It was funny to wake up and find that you now had one!

[@WorldwideDarts]

Good timing! 👍🏻

[@imvalma]

Finally, this video is what I was waiting for! let's gooo

[@vilimiryordanov8502]

Price uses 35mm black points Peter Wright's 5groove grip points that he uses on his gold darts are the Unicorn 35mm points. But recently had the new Red Dragon specialty points which are 33mm sticking out. Both Danny Noppert and Johnny Clayton use the Winmau 41mm groove points. Cross used to use 41mm Quartz points but he is back to the gold Storm Surge points which are 30mm. But yea, you are absolutely right - more and more players using longer points these days. Experimenting with different points is probably the most satisfying thing about darts for me :D It is amazing how big of a difference a few millimetres can make.

[@weimarutube]

Straight to the point. Thumbs up.

[@jeffreymeiman7114]

All I can say is thank you. I had purchased a set of points here in the states a few years back. After watching your video I checked out darts corner and ordered replacements. I didn't know how much of the point went inside the dart and I had a stubby set of points. Once again you have come to the rescue. I may try longer points on my next order. Thank you again WW.

[@WorldwideDarts]

Cheers. Thanks for the comment Jeffrey!

[@jcass1970]

I started changing my own points a few years ago, and found 38 to be the length I always go to, but I never tried the sandpaper trick. I always bought the Harrows laser etched silver points that stick in the board like crazy. Buying a reg set of points and using the sandpaper would save lots of cash. The price difference between a plain point (less than a dollar), and a special point ($5 plus) is huge.

[@WorldwideDarts]

Yep, a small piece of sandpaper and silver points works perfectly. It's a bit surprising how well they stick in the board to be honest. The effect sort of wears off quick though. If someone is playing a lot they will probably have to scuff the points almost every day.

[@stephenconnolly1913]

I recently changed to longer point about 8 months ago went away from standard point now throw with a 38mm black anarchist point and that's the length for me won't ever change back to standard points

[@fmpphoto]

Catching up on all your great vids

[@lordrichardvantiltingen7109]

Actually got the same Winmau 41mm points Danny Noppert uses yesterday and before that I only had 32mm points and the extra 9mm aswell as switching from silver points too black grooved points was such an improvement

[@iaingking]

Thanks Worlwide, I've just started trying out a few different points, as others have said the standard 26mm smooth points are too short for me, I got a repointing tool last week, always good content, cheers.👍

[@rof.3279]

I'm using exactly these 53mm black points with my winmau snipers 23g. It's awesome how tight you can group them... Amazing points!

[@WorldwideDarts]

Oh wow, I haven't tried them yet but I will today while making the video. I want to get my first attempts on video. Should be interesting

[@macbrian1703]

Great job WW!! I always check total weight now after joining a soft tip league (20g max). But even steel tip darts, you add a long point, thick flights, protectors and Ti stems. A dart can go up 4 grams after barrel weight with just a couple modifications. I aways take this into consideration when making a purchase. Maybe just a video on how much weight could one add to one's own setup. Thank you for your hard work and great information.

[@WorldwideDarts]

Thanks for the comment Mac 👍🏻

[@glennl.]

I use between 38mm and 42mm black points, but like you say with silver ones scuff them up and there is no problem. Good video full of tips for people that just started. Keep up the good work

[@WorldwideDarts]

Thanks Glenn

[@skeller61]

Just saw a short with Johnny Clayton, where he said he uses a 41mm point.

[@Gwockamoli]

Love the nice vibrant colors of the Bulls board!

[@WorldwideDarts]

I have 26mm Target Storm points on my match darts. When I throw a dart the point sticks right into the side of my ring finger. Longer points mess me up... unless I throw something silly like a 66mm point. Then I just hold onto part of the point as I would a barrel

[@mikemclaughlin7605]

Lots of great information, thanks

[@chrisgraves9430]

I find 38 mm black Mission points fit most barrels, 30 mm black Target Storm points are my favourites. Voks Tornado points are great but too thin for most barrels

[@greggsmith7388]

I enjoyed this video. Ever since I became a subscriber and watched my first Frankenstein darts video, I had to make my own set. I got the Designa repointing tool and built 4 sets of Frankenstein Darts. I was never a huge fan of the 66mm points being silver. I started searching around for the longest Black Points I could find. I ended up finding some on Amazon USA that I think were 50mm+. I put those into 2 different dart barrels and love them! Perfect grip into the board. I did however also use Trident ONE80 Nose Cones on them. Really saves on flight damage.

[@davidblalock1709]

I recently put in a set of piranha points. Shot with them for a few weeks and switched back to a 35mm gold point. The longer point made my dart unbalanced (more so than it already is) I also have a buddy that refuses to use anything else other than the piranhas.

[@WorldwideDarts]

The Piranha points are nice. I have them in my McKicks. That's the only thing I like from that company though. The Piranha darts are a joke with their prices. $80 for the most basic darts you've ever seen. Don't get me wrong though, nice enough darts but you can get the same ones from the UK in the $20 range

[@davidblalock1709]

@@WorldwideDarts preaching to the choir man. Preaching to the choir.

[@WorldwideDarts]

@@davidblalock1709 I hear ya. Dart players, especially the older ones like me can be a stubborn bunch 😂

[@bencorbitt3003]

I love repointing my steels but with how I throw/hold my darts I have to stick with 26mm points unfortunately. Trialed 30mm target storm points and i couldn’t let go and everything went right. Triple 1 was my worst enemy until I went back to 26mm target firestorm points

[@smiffy7890]

Always good to hear your thoughts Great stuff WWD 👍🏻

[@WorldwideDarts]

Thanks 👍

[@justinress2782]

You have to include Demon Heta and Simon Whitlock in this. Heta uses 44mm and Whitlock uses 50mm.

[@WorldwideDarts]

Yeah definitely. There's a ton of guys using some javelin's nowadays.

[@maxkunitsa8955]

I tried to play with 35 mm points instead of default 32 points and found myself on the wrong side of balance, so switched back to standard 32mm ones.

[@mccarronjohn]

i can’t wait for wednesday’s video. i’ve been wanting to get into repointing myself. thanks pal

[@WorldwideDarts]

Yeah, I'm looking forward to trying out the 53mm points. Might make for a boring video though 😂

[@mccarronjohn]

@@WorldwideDarts i doubt it, you seem to have fun no matter what. and i for one as a new player am learning tons from you.

[@WorldwideDarts]

@@mccarronjohn Thanks for that 👍🏻

[@SmithsDarts]

Hello worldwide just watched your video and wondered what is the best specialty point with grip ideally 30mm+ outside of the barrel Cheers

[@WorldwideDarts]

Got to go with the Mission points. Or... if you can get ahold of Yaoyeah darts I would 100% recommend those

[@zoltomar4759]

Even if the discount code doesn’t work, that’s an incredibly good price for a repointing tool. I saw a friend do it once without one. He used a bench vice and a pair of vice grips. Not pretty!

[@WorldwideDarts]

100% agree. $40 is a good deal for something that will last a lifetime. Definitely something every dart player should invest in. It makes things soooo much easier.

[@jamierey9389]

I’ve used Punk points, really something different and stick like hell! Not sure if you’ll have heard of them (I’m in the uk) should have a look though

[@ragingpotato]

I noticed the PDC players using 40+mm points as well. I put 45mm on my Peter Wright E11 darts, and I LOVE them.

[@WorldwideDarts]

Oh wow, I bet that looks wild with a nice thin barrel like the Euro 11's. 👍

[@IzroneI]

Also…lol @ that shirt.

[@jinjunmei]

Switching to 34mm points made all the difference for my game, I'm never going back.

[@WorldwideDarts]

Nice! A few mm can make all the difference in the world

[@BernaHenriques]

Great video. Even though what you said is true, I still feel like points are somewhat underrated in darts. Like a lot of people just buy the darts and play with the stocked points that they come with. Even a small change in points can make a huge diference and I feel like too many players still aren't aware of that. My personal favourite are the target diamond ones, but I also love the microgrip points that the clemens gen One's come with

[@mezohmorf1371]

Love the shirt hahahaha!

[@rhysphillips6854]

Great video I do prefer a longer point on red dragon you can change your points for cheap I had the grooved long black point put in my darts

[@chrishallwood7458]

Currently using 38mm (35 out the barrel) on my Aspinall darts, going very well and you’re right the way darts is going more and more people will be using longer points, especially as the new Winmau boards are quite softer so in theory points should bury deeper

[@WorldwideDarts]

Did you watch and of the WDF al this past week? I was a bit surprised at how many players had their darts sink all the way into the board. The points were completely buried and sometimes it looked like the barrel was touching the sisal. As much as I love Winmau boards the Blade 6 boards are WAY WAY too soft. Mine is so soft that I stopped playing on it.

[@chrishallwood7458]

@@WorldwideDarts it’s definitely a reason why many are switching to longer points, dirk van duijvenbode has said after his pro tour win the other day he’s got a slightly longer point now because of Softer board

[@WorldwideDarts]

@@chrishallwood7458 Oh wow, I didn't know that. I saw that he won though. I wonder if Winmau intended for their boards to be THAT soft? I've always loved Winmau boards, especially the Blade 5's. The Blade 6's look nice but they can keep them

[@chrishallwood7458]

@@WorldwideDarts yeah, they are considerably softer but someone with longer points would feel the negatives of a soft board less of course, so it’s no wonder why the pros are all using longer lengths, I’ve switched myself due to this reason to longer and it hasn’t been a pain to get used to, and my darts are standing further out than if I were to stick with my old 30mm out the barrel points, which would probably bury into the sisal now

[@barrygribben2531]

Thanks for this man, very helpful

[@theCainsaw]

I always use 36 or 38 mm points. At the moment i use some 36 mm MibGrip ice points and I love them

[@lesterthompsonjr2163]

Do you use loctite or superglue when fitting new points?

[@WorldwideDarts]

In 99% of cases I don't use anything. But either one will work. I use one drop of Superglue though... i.imgur.com/MkQUqtt.jpg

[@patrickmcneeley6176]

Do longer points change the center of balance on the dart and is there a noticeable difference? Or is it just in my head?

[@WorldwideDarts]

It would take a really long point to mess with the balance imo. But any point length change will take some getting used to.

[@cra68778]

could anyone tell me if I am able to change my rob cross pixel storm surge points to another type of point such as sp or just a regular target point

[@teresatuck6350]

Good stuff !

[@danblacksher6289]

I use 41 mm or 40mm points only because I could not find them longer and the shirt😂 definitely helps you train longer harder and get bigger and stronger

[@WorldwideDarts]

I've only got the test. None of the other ones 😂

[@ribletroblet]

Worldwide, I've been looking everywhere for new points. Do they even make Target storm points or similar smooth transition points over 30mm? I can't seem to find any over 30 and I want long points and be a part of the #NoLipGang without using tridents

[@WorldwideDarts]

I haven't seen anything over 30mm

[@kimmern999]

I haven't been dipping into the repointing business (yet), but there is no doubt in my mind that I prefer the standard points from Shot (35mm) better than those of the other brands (32mm).

[@justinress2782]

I hope Target or some other company comes out with specialty points that are 38-40 mm. I know there is the Cuesoul Touch points, but they don’t go all the way into some barrels and are therefore not recommendable.

[@sometimme]

I have failed to replace original points on Gary Anderson Phase 3 darts with Unicorn Volute points as the Volutes appeared to be too thin. Can you please express your thoughts on the deviation in thickness between various manufacturers? Or does the thickness varies from batch to batch? And what would you recommend if a points turns out to be too thin? Loctite?

[@WorldwideDarts]

Funny you mention this. I just had to buy some more Super Glue because of the Voks Slim darts I just reviewed. I couldn't get points to stay in them so I added one single drop of glue and it worked perfectly. You're 100% correct though, the tolerance from some companies is ever so slightly off and you'll end up with loose points.

[@ribletroblet]

I need to get some new points. What are your thoughts on rainbow points or coated points? does the color wear off real fast? If so it doesn't seem worth it.

[@WorldwideDarts]

Not a fan at all. They should hold their color though.

[@Timesend]

Cool video 👌 I’ve experimented with all lengths of dart points and I can only use the shortest standard length ones at 26mm , I hope dart companies don’t use longer points as the standard 😂 as I will have to change it back each time

[@drkilljoyz9524]

If you were to use sand paper to use to scuff the tips, what grit would you use? 220? Or higher?

[@WorldwideDarts]

Whatever you have available will work. I always seem to have fine grit around the house

[@Mersipher]

Good evening Worldwide Darts. I'm having a difficult time finding the correct diameter of my Harrow points. I have Inferno and ICE I use and want to change them to longer points. However the diameter that goes into the barrel has to be specific. Unfortunately I'm struggling to find that and once I do then find a longer length with the correct diameter. Any suggestions would be great.

[@WorldwideDarts]

Every so often you'll find a set of darts that have a slightly different point hole. With Harrows you should have absolutely no issues changing the points. They're as standard as it gets.

[@Mersipher]

@@WorldwideDarts can you recommend a site that sells various lengths. I just want simple. No bumps, ridge's, grooves or such on my points. Checked harrow site but they don't have just plain longer tips. Other sites I see are the same for harrow. Their the new types with fancy cuts, bumps, ridges etc.

[@WorldwideDarts]

@@Mersipher I would highly recommend Double Top Darts or Darts Corner. I'm in the USA and have been using them for years. A bit of caution when ordering from Darts Corner though... shipping times are running slow for them. Usually it takes about a week. Right now it can take upwards of two weeks. Double Tops is quick though

[@Mersipher]

Thanks for the recommendation. I'm also here in US. I'll give them a whirl. Appreciate the recommendation and shipping times.

[@andrewbombard5540]

Is there any difference in point diameter. I have re-pointed my target darts and red dragons successfully with winwau free-flow points but they are to small in diameter for my Bulls Krzysztof Ratajski darts

[@WorldwideDarts]

There usually isn't. For the most part everything is standard across the board. However with some darts, like Cosmo for example, the point hold will be ever so slightly different and repointing is a pain in the butt. A dab (seriously one drop) will work wonders if the point is too loose

[@enricoenrico6373]

i guess that theory does not apply to winmau freeflo specialty point advertised as 35 mm but only 30 mm is showing once installed

[@WorldwideDarts]

Yeah true but those are just normal points with a nose cone pressed onto them. So not the same as a Target Storm, Harrows Apex or Voks Tornado point

[@sas151]

Which points to use ?

[@keithcroxford5703]

I use harrows 35mm black ridge points do any pro players use them they are very very strong

[@jackhainey6566]

Hey WWD, are you aware of the difference between the Winmau Alpha and Delta flights?

[@WorldwideDarts]

No, no idea sorry

[@ericparker415]

How many times do you think you can repoint your dart before you can't do it anymore

[@WorldwideDarts]

Hmm. Not that many. That's the ONLY reason I switched away from my match darts. I repointed them so many times that I now have to use superglue to get the points to stay in.

[@kvajeblostari]

Hey, you didn't say how to change the center of gravity and the weight with longer points

[@WorldwideDarts]

It's hard for me to say personally. I'm able to throw just about anything with equal consistency. Look at the intro for example. The first 3 darts were 20 grams with 32mm points. Then the second throw was with 11.6 gram darts with 66mm points. I don't notice any difference at all with balance or center of gravity, etc... and I still hit what I was looking at. But yes, changing things like points, or longer stems, different sized flights will make a difference. A player just has to figure out if that change is good or bad.

[@tratcliffe71]

Do you play competitive in the states and if so how are you ranked

[@WorldwideDarts]

I used to play and did really well but nowadays I just do KZbin. It's easy more rewarding helping others here. 👍

[@tratcliffe71]

@@WorldwideDarts cool, was just curious because you would do well.

[@WorldwideDarts]

I won a few state championships in both steel and soft tip. I won a bunch of different events at a Bullshooter I went to years ago. Singles, doubles and mixed trips. Also placed well in other steel tip events but my passion isn't playing darts. I don't really enjoy it to be honest. I'm an outdoors type of person. The idea of being cramped up in a hotel room playing darts is the LAST thing I'd want to do.

[@lucasgleeson4473]

Would they change the way your darts fly?

[@WorldwideDarts]

Yes, they certainly can. But they could change them in a favorable way. The change is minimal though and something a player would get used to in a few throws

[@andyproctor3588]

Not hard to figure on that one proof is in the pudding point-to-point and the darts had quite a bit of space in between them thanks worldwide as always very informative

[@svetsipek]

I know its Kind of old video, but im soft player(or have been) in last 2 years, from the winter break in my soft league, i want to start focus on steel tip darts, so i bought myself harrows rival 21g steel(same as you, buying the lowest weight option) and 20g soft for christmas, so i can have kind of same dart for soft a steel games. For the steel tip i also bought mission sniper points 32mm long, to try little bit eliminate the lip of the barel. Im thinking about buy a repointing tool, but im not sure of buy, because i probably wont use it very often.... maybe i just ask family to buy me that for christmas. :D

[@WorldwideDarts]

What you can do is ge the repointing tool and then you'll be forever known as the "repointing guy" at league. 👍🏻

[@svetsipek]

@@WorldwideDarts thanks a lot, i just bought it on FB from another dart player, and its great...little bit strange when you do it first time, but after couple of tries, it goes perfectly well, so hopefully i start my steel career now and be known as repointing guy, as you said.

[@ericjencson9489]

Are longer than standard points responsible for all the people talking about breaking points on the dart forums? I've been throwing 33 years and never broken a point. I've never used longer than standard points either.

[@WorldwideDarts]

The specialty points aren't like your normal steel tip points. They're molded or formed steel. Not as strong as regular points.

[@jaysonpfaff5566]

Justin Pipe had the longest points. His darts looked like your Frankensteins.

[@WorldwideDarts]

Yeah, I think he said he uses 51 or 53mm long points. Something like that anyway. Crazy!

[@nowitzki1000]

Discount code is still available thanks WWD

[@WorldwideDarts]

Oh good. Thanks for letting us know. I wasn't 100% sure

[@drazenmustafic4497]

35 for me

[@evilbeetlekustomscreations4965]

Did anyone else miss the point of the video😂