ALL ABOUT SHOWER PUMPS - Plumbing Tips

[@plumberparts]

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[@johnaustin1825]

You do a great video on installing a hot water pump for the whole house. You do a great video on installing a shower pump. What we need now is how they are integrated? For a simpleton like me: HOW DO I GET HOT WATER TO MY KITCHEN TAP AND ELSEWHERE, AND A POWER SHOWER? Those diagram are just what is needed - clarified marvelously!

[@927Paddy]

Excellent Video, informative no life story like some - Old school - simple cheerful and all the information you need !! Even the handrawn drawings - so much quicker and easier!! Thanks very much!

[@casinodelonge]

For a duffer like me, that's exactly the level that's perfect for me to understand. I have a troublesome pump and I'm going to have a lash at removing, cleaning and greasing the bits before I chuff up for another one.

[@funkypotamus]

Brilliant videos mate. Thanks for being so generous with the info. Top class!

[@lessmith3718]

Brilliant guy no messing and easy learned with great sense of humour.

[@plumberparts]

Cheers Richard! Glad to help bro! SUBSCRIBE! ➡️👉 kzbin.info 👈⬅️if you haven't already!

[@hrshsmpt]

at 7:40 you say the pump needs enough head room from the over head tank, does it also need enough head room from the water heater too? can it be over the water heater

[@superuser67]

Informative and funny and exactly what I was looking for! Thank you sir

[@Anitanigel]

Have you ever fitted a shower-power-booster pump, it a tiny little 12v pump made by a uk company that seems to be able to be fitted in a system more or less anywhere.

[@graemepearson7481]

Good entertaining video. A Question. We have a shower pump below the level of the actual shower, on the floor. The water tank is head high and the hot water tank is on floor level. The shower will not start when it is up on the riser - only when you take the shower head off and bring it down to waist level. Then it seems to cut out after a while. Do we need a new pump?

[@Ilovetosingem]

Can the salamander pump be adjusted a little as ours seems to be too strong. Thanks and stay safe you and yours.

[@ajmalshabir4089]

Subscribed. Great way of teaching.

[@tracyhealy7984]

I know this is an old video but still hoping for a reply 🤣 I’ve just watched a bunch of videos and yours explains it in the simplest way. My question is all videos talk about priming the pump before you turn it on so your purging the air. My thought is after turning the shower on and initial air has passed through there shouldn’t be any air as the cold tank should be large enough to hold a significant supply. I’ve seen people putting aavs on the hot in the loft when the hot supply has been teed in from the top of the tank, which makes sense in that it’s also the vent pipe so could possible pull in air but say you install a pump in an airing cupboard that backs onto the shower and the feeds for the shower are already low down in the cupboard, if you use those feeds for the shower pump would you still need to fit an aav on the hot supply to the pump? My problem is I’m a college trained plumber, not nvq that went on to work on new builds, learned to tile and now mainly fit bathrooms so working on older existing systems is something I’ve never been taught. I’ve also fitted a few shower pumps and was never aware that an aav needed to be fitted, where and why so 11:54 sorry if it sounds like a really dumb question, which I suppose it is coming from someone who city & guilds deem to be a qualified and competent plumber 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@Trytonizationify]

Cool video about your exercise regime on 2:37

[@davidkneale7455]

What about Surrey flanges etc? Do you think a half inch vent pipe would be harmful? Got a pump job to do soon with 15mm vent pipe. No pump fitted at moment.

[@billsutton1367]

I just bought a second hand and untested Salamander shower pump. Advert said it was noisy and I'd like to spin it before plumbing it in, just to check the bearings. Can I ovveride the pressure switch to test it? Lot of hassle to plumb it in and find it doesn't work. Obviously I wouldn't run it for longer than necessary to list to the bearings, but can't imagine it would do any harm with no water in for a second or two.

[@geraldmcfadden2270]

Is it ok to connect one side of a double impeller 1.5 bar salamander pump? Or can I feed the pressure out into the other side of the pump and then double pressure?

[@donnagrimwood8244]

Can I ask a silly question. I have a gravity feed system and electric shower. Thinking about doing my bathroom complete rip out. Thinking ceiling feed shower Aqualisa shower that has a pump with it will that increase the flow as at this time it’s not great?

[@sunkat76]

10:40 is exactly like the replacement power shower the plumber has just installed and he and the building firm are claiming is okay!? 10:50 is what the old shower used to be and they just refuse to accept it. Thank you SO much for proving the difference in water flow James. I still think it's an air lock. Off to find a video you've no doubt done on shower air locks. Cheers! :-)

[@seanjohnson7899]

Hello mate I'm on top floor flat I have a dual water pump, just got a couple of questions if you could please help, I don't like the noise of it so would rather get rid of it, do I need one, also why do they just randomly go off, if I'm not using the water

[@janicesmyth2183]

you're my favorite subscription! I love all your videos!

[@abcd123412ful]

Great video, thanks! Its a pity you didn't show the pump running, i'm trying to understand if my Salamander is making an abnormal noise or not. Its loads louder than the 53db claimed

[@charlesbadukusi2209]

Top man you make the job look so easy

[@plumberparts]

It isn't though! ;)

[@mrmsali7689]

Need help; Can we connect 22mm copper pipe to a shower pump which 15mm connectors? Or must buy 22mm connector shower pump for 22mm copper pipe. Thanks

[@roamingyorkshirecouple6744]

Hi James - Any idea where we could get hold of parts for a Salamander pump - specifically The Mechanical Seal and Spring set for an RP75 Twin. Perfectly good pump but the rear mechanical seal has distorted over time so it now leaks. I see Salamander have discontinued most of their repair kits. Rich

[@SmokeNMirrors470]

Can I just ask if you know of a silent waste pump? At the moment we fit AKW M11 and it sounds like a train is pulling out of a station.

[@TheWhipple42]

Very helpful you nutcase...Had to watch again for the entertainment value. Regards, Kev.

[@alfredellis5782]

Very good about shower pump but tell me about the draining of my shallow tray without the u bend underneath which doesn't draw the water sometimes , what is the pump like underneath,,,,love your videos....Alfred

[@MartiA1973]

Gold information I'm a sparky and avoid plumbing but sometime replace a fault pump. One question - why does the cold supply require a head but the hot is level with the tank. No plumber Iver spoken to knows!

[@micklally5501]

Hi mate,Help got a problem,my daughters ground floor flat has a shower pump Hot fed from H/W cylinder ,cold is fed from the mains through a Pressure reducing valve.The pump has started leaking on the cold side.What should the inlet pressure be to the Salamander pump be? Keep up the good work and don’t pick on Nick Bundy.Regards

[@declansmith1692]

Hi mate just wondering is there any need to put a mixing valve on?

[@davidgorrie7606]

great advice never known you to be wrong much appreciated ,

[@unclebob8419]

Do these all eventually fail and leak? I don't want to put one in my loft if they do

[@jamesbhx]

I've got the exact same Salamander pump and recently its started to "pulse" when the shower on, to the point it blew the 3A fuse in the spur. Time to replace the pump or something else wrong?

[@2006ladylala]

hi tim great vid , just checking that its ok to sit the pump next to the base of the hot cylinder, thanks mate

[@plumberparts]

No worries!

[@tevenweven7860]

Can i ask your advice to a plumbing problem please

[@raymondwilson856]

can you fit a second cold water tank and connect and fit cold suply to it to suply shower

[@dingo3718]

Good honest craic, never thought plumbers to have a funny personality,, then theres you,, great video by the way,, have a quick question though I have a salamander pump here my copper boiler is downstairs will I have to place the salamander pump below the copper boiler, and also can I use it to operate two hot water pipes rather than hot and cold, many thanks ya mad man

[@thebash5656]

Can you make a video on shower drain pumps please

[@erolbrown]

Superb vid. Really useful.

[@MrKeal123]

great video.if I am fitting a pump for the shower.can I T off the cold feed into the hot tank or do I have to go straight from the header tank?cheers jim

[@brettwilkins4812]

Hi bit of advice needed if thats ok fitting a Grunfoss STR2 shower pump to an existing system, is it ok to reduce from the 22mm outlets to the 15mm connections on the shower valve, reason is its buried in a wall and hard to get at thanks in advance. Also love your videos, fun informative better than watching telly.

[@brianholland-jones9415]

Hi, our electric pump for the Shower and Bath began pulsing when the hot water was on at the basin. Originally the basin was not connected to the pump but due to the extremely low water pressure at the basin tap we had the basin connected to the pump. Now each time we run hot into the basin the pump keeps pulsing. We paid for a plumber to come and fix that problem. He fitted a Surrey valve which he said should stop it pulsing and we paid £350 for the work. Four days later the pulsing began all over again ? So am reluctant to get this guy back as there was a difference in what he originally agreed to do for the £350 and the fact that he hasn’t solved the pulsing problem. Any advice would be very helpful please ?

[@y0luca]

Was this a 2 or 3 bar pump? Looking to fit one this weekend... dont know what size .. thanks

[@B1cam]

Good vid. I thought the hoses with the bends go on the sides and the straights on the the top this would then have all 4 hoses pointing upwards. ???

[@plumberparts]

Normally you would. It was just for this install the previous plumber had the outlets in the side. PP!

[@00107618]

Thank you for the video, it is very helpful. I am about to replace a salamander CT50 that was already in the house when we moved in. it supplies two on suite. obviously it is the wrong type, hence stopped working after 2 months. I am putting a salamander BHP 75, the correct one. The question I want to ask is, the pump in already is above the cylinder level attached to the wall, so very noisy, I want to put the new one on the floor so I have all the extensions tubing ready, but is this possible ? or the pressure going to the floor of the ground floor then up to the first floor again 5m away will make it hard for the pump to pick up on the change of pressure when you turn the tap on so it won't work? does my question make sense to you?

[@londonboys7497]

Fantastic videos keep em coming!

[@jimmyESSEXUK]

Beautifully demonstrated ❤️❤️

[@rachaeloldroyd5380]

I can work out how to get hot and cold into the pump but not sure then how to tap into the shower feed only. It is a relatively new build so its plastic pipe hidden everywhere. Also this is my daughters youtube account just to clear up any confusion !!

[@plumberparts]

+Rachael Stafford Ha! Send us some photos to our Facebook account in messenger. Also, have no fear, although your daughter is obviously very lovely, I'm happily married! :) Please sub >> kzbin.info

[@terryblush]

Can you fit a pump to the cold feed going to an electric shower as the water feed is slow in my block of flats which is fed from a water tower a few secs up the road

[@PeteLogan101]

Excellent vid!!

[@plumberparts]

Pete Logan Thanks!

[@chriswesley594]

What a cracking bloke & a great video! I live in a 4th floor council flatfed with mains cold water and the hot tank has almost no head. Can I use a pump in the hot line or would the pressure imbalance cause problems?

[@jasonedmed6021]

Great vid. Question I have is I have a bath tap/shower combo, but the pressure is rubbish. Can I still install a shower pump onto a bath tap/shower combo?

[@BrrmmBrrmm]

If you were doing a fresh install using one pump to service two showers and the pump had 22mm fittings, would you take the 22mm pipe all the way to both showers?

[@plumberparts]

BrrmmBrrmm Never a bad idea mate!

[@johnscardy]

So how big does your cold water tank need to be? I'm thinking about fitting a pump to replace a mains fed on electric shower... But the cold water tank in the loft is probably only about the size of one of those green beer bottle bins.

[@sj_uk]

So looking at the tank its ok to just branch off the hot water without a surrey flange? What about the "damage" to the pump? Does this cause damage / void warranties?

[@plumberparts]

No you can do both. Although I'd always recommend a flange of some sort! SUBSCRIBE! ➡️👉 kzbin.info 👈⬅️if you haven't already!

[@gmanhi5]

Good vid but how would I install a pump if I don't have cold water or hot water tank? I've a combination boiler.

[@jonor68]

Hi - Can I use a "shower pump" (i have a Salamander CT79) to pressurize my whole plumbing system, or is it suitable for only the shower? - Thanks for a great video

[@seanhammerton2376]

Great vid mate

[@plumberparts]

Sean Hammerton Cheers!

[@tomh1106]

Hi James, I've got an instant shower, a Triton T80z. The plonkers who fitted it ran the pipes from underneath the bath, upwards and around into the shower so it's like wee wee. I want to connect pipes from the attic and downwards instead so I've got head. I also want to fit some sort of pump onto it, can I put a pump on an instant shower? If so can you recommend a pump please?

[@Paulmaddison2012]

WHATS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN POSITVE/NEGATIVE ON A BOOSTER PUMP.

[@tukokitkat]

great video as usual I have second hand shower pump got from a friend, I want use it as pump in my fish tank, for cleaning and feed the filter using the shower pump,is there anyway to use it in the that way? Thanks and hope to answear me

[@RMB787983]

Superb vid plumberparts! I shall be most grateful for your advice: I have an electric shower (wet-room) installed due to a lifelong illness. The external water pressure has slowed, and my shower no longer function...all I receive is a 'Low Water Pressure' warning from my Mira Advance ATL Thermostatic. Is it at all possible to have a pump installed to increase the pressure of the incoming water? With my deepest thanks plumberparts, and my very best wishes.

[@plumberparts]

+RMB787983 Hi there. Are you in a hard water area? If so do you have a water softener? Sounds like a limescale problem to me on the shower. How long have you had it installed? Many thanks, James @ PP!

[@hal-rekabi6724]

is it possible to install Two Aqualisa Quartz Gravity feed systems (one for each bathroom) and use them at the same time?

[@arminbagheri1]

How to sort low pressure electric shower? The low pressure usually starts from evening time in the apartment and water is not coming from the tank? I have no idea where the water is coming from but i know its not coming from the tank. It looks like its a shared water from the apartment. Usually the pressure is pretty bad and i have no idea how to cure it? Would a power shower do the job? Or can i install a pump. The pluming of that water is behind the sink in the kitchen downstairs. Please helpppp

[@peterewer2093]

Thanks for the video. I have a quick question. My cold water tank is in the loft and hot water tank in the landing cupboard. The current pump is also in the loft. When replacing the pump would it be better in the loft or cupboard for pressure purposes? Cheers.

[@hmv4u2]

+Peter Ewer be aware there are positive and negative pumps -

[@plumberparts]

+Howie No I'd always try to go in the cupboard as there's more head pressure for the pumps to work with. PP!

[@RosskillbaneC]

You gas safe plumber parts and also what pump is this negative? Or positive

[@heber019]

hello, buddy sorry I'm new in all of this stuff, is this kind of pump should turn off while are not in use? I mean when all the taps are closed, Does it boost the cold and hot water? I will really appreciate any help, I'm about to change the pump in my home but I have no idea about brands or anything of this stuff, so thanks in advance any help, I'm an electrician by the way.

[@mikeee6]

hello, I was wondering I have at home a noisy pump situated in the middle of the upstairs in airing cupboard. Is there a tradesman tip for reducing this noise?

[@mikeee6]

Des M. Yes very amusing... change the pump to a better brand and model. Installed it on carpet underlay and purged the air. Much quieter. Thanks

[@davidball1924]

Love the videos! Got a Question: if I want to add a second shower pump for an en-suite, do I T off from the tank outlet? or does the tank need two outlet ports? If T'd off the single outlet - can I run both showers simultaneously? Holding Tight!!

[@paulwharton1850]

Excellent, I learnt a lot - Thank you.

[@rob5896]

Right that's my workout sorted ta🤣

[@plumberparts]

Good luck!

[@thornhillplumbing]

Hi why didn't you use a flange for the hot connection? you could see that the pump was just teed into the hot instead of tapped via a flange. could this be why the old pump stopped working? are you worried that this may damaged new pump? just interested with your decision as I've been to a few houses in my area where shower pumps were installed without a flange, and in two cases i can think of the pump lasted less than a year. Thanks

[@plumberparts]

We use flanges to reduce the possibility of air getting into the pump. Sorry for the delay in replying! Sub here please>> kzbin.info

[@davidkneale7455]

Ditto!

[@2006ladylala]

Your a star Tim , thanks

[@codebluevideo]

He’s right a plumber can never have enough head 😂 How about a video on why shower pumps start running constantly instead of on demand James?

[@niqqadarshpolice]

Very interesting! Thank you

[@gswoodline]

I have a pump just for my shower and when I turn off the water the pump keeps running. It has only just happened. Could you just give me some advice

[@davidwebster5217]

My pump works great but when I turn my taps of my pump runs on and off without any water coming from any taps ! I have to turn it of from the mains, does anyone know what the problem could be?

[@paulhewitt1964]

Great video thanks. I've got a issue with my pump, it only starts when I have the temp on low. When it starts I can increase temp. Any thoughts?

[@999finnis]

Had exactly the same on mine for a year or so, then this week pump wouldn't shut off after shower finished. Had to bite the bullet and buy a new one as wasn't worth fixing. Fitted today and all working fine. (Bought the same model and fitted it myself - if I can do it anyone can.)

[@carlmajor4454]

Can i put a pump on a hot water tap

[@kenmooney66]

Thanks for this video it's a great help. Now i just got to try do it :-)

[@paulevans4021]

Hi, I am a DIY'er.... I have fitted a thermostaic shower in place of an electric one, I have a new central heating system which is a Worcester outside boiler which feeds through to a tank..... the shower is a rain fall shower and requres more water, also the setup is mains cold water and a vented tank and therefore the shower will not operate, what are my options? Go for a non vented tank at great hassle and expense, or fit a gravity cold from the header of the copper tank, and fit a 2bar twin impellar? the pump would be located under the shower almost directly and about a foot under the cylinder and 9 foot under the header tank........ also is there anything I am missing when I have set up the shower, from reading around I gather the reason my show wont work at all is the imbalence of pressure but there are LP HP screws on the shower should I be adjusting these to get it working in the first instance? Thanks in advance Paul

[@asiaahmed2877]

Could you give me advise please as i've searched the internet without any luck,my mother has a walk in disabled shower with an electric pump drainage system,i can hear it trying to pump the water out but it isnt draining the waste water.

[@plumberparts]

Is it a Saniflo pump?

[@fais6964]

good video - thx. Do you have any preference between Salamander or Monsoon Pumps (for a shower - 3 bar) ? 2nd Question - does a pump stay on permanently or only switch on when you open the taps for the shower ?

[@plumberparts]

+Fais Salamander and they switch! Sub here please>> kzbin.info

[@seratonia1]

Can you come to East London and instal a first floor shower room and also one in my loft..also need a new boiler....Put me out of my misery!!!...I just want really powerful showers with boiling hot water!!!...How do I achieve it??.getting so much mixed advise

[@TheTimmyc123]

I've just bought a new house, and there is no shower in the family bathroom (just a bath) because they said there wont be enough pressure. there was the option to have an electric shower, but I didn't want an ugly box on the wall. Is it possible to fit one of these Teeing off from the bath taps supply, to a conventional mixer shower. The house has a combi boiler downstairs, and therefore no hot or cold water tanks if that makes any difference?

[@plumberparts]

Is the system Gravity fed or pressursied?

[@TheTimmyc123]

pressure

[@tomg3131]

MrTim93 if it's pressurised from a combination boiler or mains fed system you cannot fit a shower pump unfortunately but the pressure you would have should already be great enough to supply to your mixer shower

[@TW-mp8zx]

ino its 8 months too late but you could alter the water main and fit whats called a break tank anywhere in the house and have single stage pump fitted which could supply your combi (making sure all is suitable for what your trying to achieve)... if your water main is not upto the job then there is always a solution

[@oscarnonweiler]

Fitted a pump to a gravity system where pipes came down from loft under floor through hallway up out of floor under bath (where I put the pump) and it only works sometimes....the pipework goes up out of pump and then down again, could it be airlock that's stopping it from working? Can't fit it in loft because space in not tall enough, tank is sitting about 500mm up so not enough head, pump instructions say 2metres minimum.

[@plumberparts]

Oscar Nonweiler Air lock or lack of flow over the flow switches.

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[@clawpuss2]

Hi, Are Salamander shower pumps worth repairing when they start to cut out? Or should you just renew?

[@plumberparts]

Renew, they ain't that expensive! Sub here please>> kzbin.info

[@andrewosborn5935]

Great vid! Quick question: Are there are any issues when swapping a 1.5bar pump for a slightly higher pressure 2 or 2.5 bar pump? I've got a Grundfos that needs replacing.

[@plumberparts]

+Andrew Osborn Not really, it just means you get a beast of a shower. Obvs there is i slightly higher risk of leaks, but thats it! Please sub >> kzbin.info

[@plumberparts]

+Andrew Osborn Not really, it just means you get a beast of a shower. Obvs there is i slightly higher risk of leaks, but thats it! Please sub >> kzbin.info

[@andyhunter7369]

i didnt think you could tee the hot supply to the shower pump off the HW vent pipe and need to fit a flange to avoid air and burning the pump out and invalidating warranty?

[@Zeamus634]

What if you don't have a hot water cylinder or a cold water loff tank?

[@jonbishopp2014]

Then you need a mains booster pump

[@RMB787983]

Hi Plumberparts.Thank you so much for your kind, speedy advice. On the piping, I can see a wire 'device' fitted: and I'm sure, upon installation some years ago, that the installer (Oakray) did mention that this device was a water softener. The shower has been working well, but over the past six months an issue with the water pressure was affecting the shower...and now the shower is only flowing for some ten seconds (honestly) and then switches itself off with an 'acoustic' beep from the Low Water Pressure light. Are there any electric shower units with an in-built 'pump' to permit use of a flowing showe?. Once again plumberparts, thank you for your kind response to my enquiry. My best wishes.

[@plumberparts]

Hi there. Does the wire wrap round and round the pipe? If so it's not really a softener, more a scale reduced breaker-down. They often fail in the end. Ask your plumber to remove the current shower and then turn the open water pipe that feeds it on. I'll put my cats life on it that the flow to the shower is fine and that it's the shower inside that's scaled up. If it isn't, George is mincemeat! Regards, PP!

[@Scott11997799]

Teeing into the hot like that isn't the best way is it? No flanges used to get an independent flow from the cylinder? Usually use an Essex flange for these

[@plumberparts]

+Scott11997799 Yep, we've done vids on Essex and Surrey Flanges. PP!

[@reconnaisancesapper]

Are you also into working out? I see a list of physical exercises there on your super white board. Good video by the way........as usual of course.

[@plumberparts]

Ha! Yes that's more the wife's routine. Mine I different and honed through years of pain!

[@reconnaisancesapper]

***** I can imagine that. I used your videos a lot as I am on an HND Renewable Source Energy Technician and this involves plumbing. Keep up the good videos and entertainment. Thanks!!!!!!!

[@gdfggggg]

Hi there, Anybody fitted a ShowerPowerBooster? They look easy to fit and are they any good? Cheers mates.

[@andywood233]

Hold tight! Top video, thank you

[@frostie1970]

Are your flexis on the wrong way? Do the elbowed ones not go on the lower horizontal and the straights on the upper so they all look upwards?

[@gjmheating8857]

James shouldn't the pump hot water supply be taken from the side of the cylinder to prevent air, also gate valves are a pig when they go wrong could slip in a 22mm isolation valve near the pump

[@plumberparts]

I'd recommend it. Use a surrey/essex/salamander flange to prevent air ingress into the pump! SUBSCRIBE! ➡️👉 kzbin.info 👈⬅️if you haven't already!

[@Pádraig_DArcy]

Really helpful videos. Great work. I've a question for you. I have 3 (mixer) showers upstairs that need boosting. Do I need a separate pump for each shower? Or could 1 pump be installed to service the 3 showers? Thanks :)

[@plumberparts]

+Pádraig Joseph You can have one pump, although the pressure outlet need to be higher!

[@Pádraig_DArcy]

+plumberparts Thanks mate!

[@davidcampbell8333]

Hold tight PP! I have about 2m head between my cold water tank and hot water tank, the problem is that my bath is on the same level as my hot water tank so I get terrible pressure and it takes about 40 mins to run a bath. Would it be OK for me to install a pump downstream of the hot water tank to give me better hot water pressure? Love the channel BTW, learned so much. Cheers Keebz

[@plumberparts]

David Campbell We are doing a video on single impellor pumps this week. Keep an eye out!

[@davidcampbell8333]

Nice 1 m8, will do. Hold tight!