All I Know About Watercolour Pans

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Teoh Yi Chie

Teoh Yi Chie

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@arcuda2001
@arcuda2001 5 жыл бұрын
I find that also using toothpicks , to stir the paint around a bit ,in the pan , helps to push the paint into the corners and also push any tiny air bubbles out. It seems to be easier and also helps keep the necks of the watercolor tubes a bit cleaner .. One other fabulous tip I learned from a you tuber somewhere ( sorry I can’t remember who)... after filling the pans, clean the neck of the tube and use a q- tip to dab a tiny bit of Vaseline around the neck ... it has made my life a bit easier to do this with all my tubes of paint, watercolors and gouache , and the caps never get stuck anymore :-)) easy peasy as they say :-))
@DontM8-__-
@DontM8-__- 5 жыл бұрын
The video consistency is amazing on this channel. Definitely deserves a bell.
@teohyc
@teohyc 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks :-)
@pinkflamingo5628
@pinkflamingo5628 5 жыл бұрын
Hello from Florida USA ... I am so happy with the two 18-half pan sets I purchased from you a few months ago. Watching this video made me truly appreciate the amount of work you put into them, from filling each several times to writing all the information on the tiny pans to making sure those in the middle of the boxes didn’t shift in shipping and your super-safe packaging from Singapore. The enjoyment they bring me is beyond measure. I am having fun experimenting with all the colors and brands. Thank you for all and for the education you provide! 🌺
@fufufuaru
@fufufuaru 5 жыл бұрын
swirling it around using a toothpick or a small palette knife and also tapping the filled pan on a flat surface also helps fill in the gaps and flatten the top
@MaryPrasadArt
@MaryPrasadArt 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video! Just a few notes... the reason some paints dry hard and/or crack is because they lack humectant. I use a combo of vegetable glycerin and (a small amount of) honey; I also add a little gum arabic. I add a drop to half pans and two drops to full pans. I use a toothpick or die pick to push the paint around in the pan (into corners). Tap pans when refilling to get it into holes and help remove bubbles (these may be popped with toothpick when at top). You may bake pans in an oven to help speed drying times (I usually Google the temp and time - check stove to be sure it is not running hot before doing this). I always clean the neck of the paint tubes otherwise the paint may make it difficult to get the top off later and/or may dry out the paint in the tube. Note: some palettes allow you to fit 7 in each row.
@chammikaiser7740
@chammikaiser7740 5 жыл бұрын
I squeeze Schmincke into my pans and it is perfect. It has one real advantage, it is workable very quickly with a drop of water. I have tried Winsor and Newton but it eventually just cracked and was not easily workable. Thank you for the useful information. Excellent video as usual Teoh. I cut a thin strip of old credit card and it worked very well for pushing the paint into the pan.
@nathanlim5177
@nathanlim5177 5 жыл бұрын
If you are using paints that tend to crack you can add in a few drops of vegetable glycerin to make it easier to rewet and not crack
@teohyc
@teohyc 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip
@barbaraklein.plussize
@barbaraklein.plussize 5 жыл бұрын
Have you noticed any difference in the paint texture after mixing it with glycerin? I'm afraid of messing up my paint by doing that, it's too expensive to just through it away... 😊
@threesixfiveart563
@threesixfiveart563 5 жыл бұрын
@@barbaraklein.plussize Nope, not me. I do it. And with my white gouache as well.
@barbaraklein.plussize
@barbaraklein.plussize 5 жыл бұрын
@@namazuume Thanks! I'll try to use glycerin with a cheaper paint I have from Pentel that's chalky and prone to cracks to see what happens. 👍👍👍
@latestarossa
@latestarossa 3 жыл бұрын
I used 1 or 2 drops of arabic gum
@lisab8078
@lisab8078 5 жыл бұрын
I stopped putting MGraham in pans cause I couldn't get it to dry, eventually settled for a pallet with wells (like Holbein) and it is much better in there. I find some Daniel. smith colours very hard to rewet from pans.
@MaryPrasadArt
@MaryPrasadArt 5 жыл бұрын
If you would like colors to rewet more easily, just add a drop of humectant (vegetable glycerin or honey - be sure it's smooth, not crystalizing) to a half pan and mix with paint then let dry. This also helps prevent cracking and falling out of the pan. I sometimes also add a small amount of gum arabic (binder).
@AlienChips
@AlienChips 5 жыл бұрын
Holbein works perfectly fine in half pans!
@teohyc
@teohyc 5 жыл бұрын
That's good to know!
@zerocalvin
@zerocalvin 5 жыл бұрын
holbein works great in watercolor pans, they do shrink, but they dont crack.. winsor and newton also seems fine for watercolor pans even though they dont advice to do so since their tube paint are not design for constant rewetting, but so far, i dont see any problem rewetting my paint.
@teohyc
@teohyc 5 жыл бұрын
Winsor & Newton is actually one of the better brands for putting inside pans.
@norbertotrevino4075
@norbertotrevino4075 5 жыл бұрын
Actually, Grumbacher and W&N were the original brands I learnt with way back, some 30+ years ago, and I usually poured then in one of those common pallets with eight small wells, the kind of pallets without a cover. They were exposed to the air all the time, and they performed very well, especially the W&N.
@EarlUniverse
@EarlUniverse 5 жыл бұрын
As said by others, I use toothpicks to level and get out air bubbles. I have found that schminke's ultramarine very difficult to re-wet once fully dry. I mostly use M. Graham and they work great for me. They remain tacky but have no issues with them running or getting moldy. The cerulean blue does take a while to dry though.
@nou257
@nou257 5 жыл бұрын
ive had my white nights paints unused for a year and some had cracks but thank goodness i never experienced mold! when i used them again it exactly looked as it did when i first got it
@higherground711
@higherground711 5 жыл бұрын
Try stirring the paint in the pan with a plastic toothpick or some other plastic instrument that can be reused. Then dry it and fill the pan some more. Stirring should help even the paint out too I would imagine. Thanks for the advice. 👍 😁 I'll keep it in mind.
@jessicasobel4287
@jessicasobel4287 5 жыл бұрын
That's how I label my pans too! Thank you for all of your guidance with urban sketching. I was finally able to meet up with my local philadelphia USK group and I had so much fun! I would never have learned about it if I hadn't seen your videos.
@sophieeggers3793
@sophieeggers3793 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! A short tip from me, filling pans half (like on one side and just two corners) helps with saving mixing space, trying out new colours and using honeybased paints from pans (no easy to make a mess, still shouldn't be stored horizontally for longer than a day or so (depending on the paint and pigment) ; I tried mijello mission gold and sennelier paints like this, which worked perfectly).
@LH_ore
@LH_ore 5 жыл бұрын
I bought a couple of tubes of Turner and White Nights. White nights took forever to dry and still remains sticky but shows less shrinkage than Turner. I also tried Maimeri Blue and they show the less shrinkage of the three.
@gosiaplummer4794
@gosiaplummer4794 5 жыл бұрын
I am thinking about putting all my colors in the pans. With little magnets place them in big flat metal can ( from chocolates etc....) And when I paint take out only colors I use. I started with mijello palettes, but of course “HAD” to have more colors than 18.... so now I have three palettes and counting.... and of course using couple colors from each when painting.... so when I do any project my palettes take whole table! the only drawback I see: am I going to destroy brushes using those pans? Can you comment on that? And btw Viridian from M Graham is really nice, not too runny good replacement for D. Smith. Most of my colors rewett nicely, even W&N, as one is not supposed to use tube paint to dry in palette. (According to their website) Sodalite from D Smith is foamy (!!!!) when rewetted tooo “aggressively” so I learnt to do that slower. Love that color for roads, felt, shadows etc so can deal with bubbles....
@debsmith7050
@debsmith7050 5 жыл бұрын
Always good to have a basics review :)
@saraccinocf
@saraccinocf 5 жыл бұрын
My favorite paint to use wet as well as in pans is Schmincke Horadam. They all work in pans really well. With the Daniel Smith, my second favorite brand (actually also due to this) it can be a hit or miss. A lot of their colors work really well but there are also a lot that shrink way to much and can detach after drying (no matter how well they were distributed into the edges it may simply happen later after heavy use). I often simply add water to them so the bottom gets wet and reattaches.... but it always takes time. I also like Sennelier and Mission gold and pour them into pans but mainly use them at home. I have some test pans from Mission gold as well and like with Sennelier their composition seems to differ from the tubes.
@InLiquidColor
@InLiquidColor 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. Schmincke is amazing to pour from, as their formula is the same for tubes and pans, and there are no issues with cracking. I also love Da Vinci for similar reasons. DS is my favorite to put in a studio palette. They're really easy to remove if you want to swap colors, but some colors do pop out a little too willingly if in a travel palette :)
@teohyc
@teohyc 5 жыл бұрын
Schmincke and Winsor & Newton are two of the better brands for squeezing into pans. Third place probably is Daniel Smith
@painovoimaton
@painovoimaton 5 жыл бұрын
Very comprehensive guide, but not too long! Thanks.
@clarefriend1376
@clarefriend1376 5 жыл бұрын
Who knew there was a proper way to fill pans. Great info. ty
@zenmanyo35
@zenmanyo35 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks again, Teah, for sending me that box of paints. Love them!!!
@rodrickdubose659
@rodrickdubose659 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for great video, Teoh. I filled my small lukas box with six colors from a QOR tube set, about 3 months ago and have been using them here and there. They are still pliant to the touch even when dry (not super hard). They re-wet well and give off lots of paint without needing to smash the brush down.
@yasao_art
@yasao_art 5 жыл бұрын
The brands I use for filling my pans are Daniel Smith, Schmincke Horadam, Winsor & Newton Professional, Daler-Rowney (which creates cracks when drying) and Mijello Mission Gold. All of them dry rather nicely, although Mission Gold DOES take longer to dry and I also noticed that it varies from color to color. Just to name one example: Shell Pink dried perfectly, whereas Melon Green took a lot longer and still feels softer to the touch, even though it's been almost a year since I filled the pan. It's probably due to the honey, as you've mentioned in your video. As for Viridian: I actually have that exact same one (Viridian from Daniel Smith) dried in a pan in my palette and have no trouble working it. I simply drop a bit of water on it and let it "activate" for a while, then it re-wets perfectly fine :) The only paint I sometimes have issues with is Lapis Lazuli from Daniel Smith, but I suppose it's because it has more binder and less pigment than other paints, since it's an expensive pigment (which is also why the tiniting strength is rather low).
@teohyc
@teohyc 5 жыл бұрын
That's what I noticed about those brands too. I've actually already recorded another video on the best brands to use in watercolour pans. lol
@everartokelli
@everartokelli 5 жыл бұрын
I've had similar good results with my professional paints (Daniel Smith, M Graham, Winsor & Newton, Sennelier, Mission Gold) which never have cracking, and only minor problems with WN drying hard in pans (fixed with a drop of glycerin) and don't really have issues with DS Viridian & Lapis Lazuli--only a few earth colors and some handmade paints shrink a bit and get a little hard to rewet. And while at first, I had issues with M Graham paints making a leaky mess, after a few months most colors have hardened up enough (cerulean, nickel azo, cobalts) to go in travel palettes. I live in a very temperate climate however (Seattle) so that's probably the reason. I also do the Jane Blundell method of drying my pans on a slant when possible (one pour), maybe that helps get rid of air bubbles--and I usually stir with an untwisted paper clip (find it's easier to clean than a toothpick).
@lindyashford7744
@lindyashford7744 5 жыл бұрын
Schmincke is definitely the easiest and neatest to pour, but requires two pourings for a full pour. Sennelier and jacksons remain a bit sticky but do dry satisfactorily. DS will stay in the pan even if you just squirt a tiny amount, and they mostly do rewet. Isaro also dries well. I have a couple of kremer half pans and pans that have never dried, they were pouring out in the little bags they came in, but other box sets pans from them never misbehaved, so I think someone made a mistake with their binder! We don't seem to get a mould problem here, maybe the cold helps, we also do not usually get very runny non drying issues. A couple of exceptions are the quin purple i saw in your film from Jacksons. I have successfully dried Shinhan Pass though they are a little crumbly and I make sure never to let the tin turn upside down. Oddly a couple of their colours, which are a gouache/watercolour hybrid, also have a tendency to not dry, again a magenta and what I think is an indanthrone blue. Oh, White Nights always look very sticky but actually are no problem at all, if you have chosen your colours for permanence, mine are ready poured so it would be interesting to know if the formula for their tube paints is different. I know the hand made paint makers put runny paints in the freezer briefly and then they can be unwrapped easily. I really hate the uncertainty of paint straight from the tube and think pans and halfpans are the thing that keep me wanting to use watercolour. That and the delight of collecting more pigments.....
@JessieEffendi
@JessieEffendi 5 жыл бұрын
I currently use Holbein and they work well in pans! I usually tap the pans a few times and stir with a toothpick. Great info as always
@terririley186
@terririley186 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I wanted to let you know that I’ve had a lot of luck using a toothpick to stir the paint after squeezing into pan. This helps to evenly spread the binder n the paint and to eliminate trapped air bubbles which can cause the holes after drying.
@daralexandra
@daralexandra 2 жыл бұрын
Hello! I just started using tin can and half pans for my watercolour paint but just too nervous to begin pouring. So, thank you for making this video!
@ParadiseofDarkness
@ParadiseofDarkness 5 жыл бұрын
Also tapping it on the table helps.
@norbertotrevino4075
@norbertotrevino4075 5 жыл бұрын
Most of Winsor & Newton tube paints can be poured into pans. The only one that gave me trouble (a lot of trouble) was an old Cadmium Orange tube. I thought tha it was set and dry but discovered (too late) that it wasn't spilling all over. How aggravating!
@annnoyez
@annnoyez 5 жыл бұрын
Schmincke and Qor works fine squeezedueesd in pans. Do it all the time. Greetings from Belgium 🇧🇪
@lynn_thinks
@lynn_thinks 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Teoh! 🎨👍
@annnoyez
@annnoyez 5 жыл бұрын
And I fill them in the box itself... why extra movements... lol... in winter it takes sometimes 3 days to dry... so I try to fill them up before it gets cold. And make extra from the colours I use more... with the brands I use, I never had cracks or air bubbles...
@Donna_G
@Donna_G 5 жыл бұрын
When I put paints into pans, I only put the paint in so that it will slope from the back to the front. This could also be from side to side. One of my favorite palettes doesn't even use separate pans. There are wells which are sloped. I put the paint in at the back of the well whenever possible. The area of Washington state where I live is very dry; so, I never have had to deal with mold in my paints.
@teohyc
@teohyc 5 жыл бұрын
I also face mold problems. I keep my pans well ventilated.
@maryalgar8779
@maryalgar8779 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Donna. What palette do you have? Sounds interesting.
@Donna_G
@Donna_G 5 жыл бұрын
@@maryalgar8779, Here is an Amazon link to a paletter similar to the one that I have: www.amazon.com/PRO-ART-3333-031Pro-Folding-6956-15/dp/B0027ACHDO/ref=sr_1_24?keywords=watercolor+palettes&qid=1563125825&s=gateway&sr=8-24 My palette is a smaller version, though. I think the brand is Pro-Art. But, there are other brands that are similar and are priced similarly. I got my palette a dozen years ago, or so. It is stained; but, the staining doesn't bother me. Since I add my watercolors to the same wells as they get empty or low, I don't worry about mixing colors unintentionally.
@godzandheros
@godzandheros 5 жыл бұрын
@@maryalgar8779 If you want a good air tight palette that folds with wells, I'd get one of the mijello ones like this: www.amazon.com/Mijello-Airtight-Watercolor-18-Well-Fuchsia/dp/B06XXV2VRV/ref=sr_1_11?keywords=watercolor+palette+mijello&qid=1563167346&s=gateway&sr=8-11
@cindyhorton6980
@cindyhorton6980 5 жыл бұрын
VERY good to know! Thank you!❤
@amyx231
@amyx231 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed with my cheap tube paints, when it dries about 1/2 the amount remains - shrinks by half. I don’t think the better brands have as much water though. I like the 3ml number some people use better, assumes you filled to the top then left a bit of a dome.
@PeterQuentercrimsonbamboo
@PeterQuentercrimsonbamboo 5 жыл бұрын
Holbein, WinsorNewton Artist grade as well as Cotman, Daniel Smith, VanGogh, all used from tubes filled into pans are fine in my palettes -
@PaintinHiding
@PaintinHiding 4 жыл бұрын
thank you for sharing this video! very informative :D for sennelier: sennelier yellow light, hooker's green, cinereous blue, indian yellow all dry well in pans but with a glossy finish as many would expect from sennelier. then their ultramarine deep, helios purple, and burnt sienna also all dry very well but have a matte finish, maybe a tinyyy bit of cracking along the surface but it's fine for me. then lastly, french vermilion... it was very liquid-y when i first put it in and it has dried and stuck to the pan nicely but it's glossy sticky, and although it's okay to cure in pans, but after painting, i usually need to leave it out to dry longer than the rest of the other sennelier colours. also, i'm not sure if you've tried Camel Camlin (kokuyo i think) artist watercolours. they're dirt cheap and i personally think they perform really well. they don't give pigment info i think but if you ever want to try new paints that are cheap, that's my suggestion. they're artist grade paints from india i believe. word of caution, they dry rock hard. i suggest adding two drops of honey per half pan. www.amazon.com/dp/B00LY1AUSG/?coliid=I1SJNNFJGAXUFP&colid=P4YC5VLXO5E2&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
@SaIrAbEe.
@SaIrAbEe. 5 жыл бұрын
Great and very informative video.
@zmedina87
@zmedina87 5 жыл бұрын
Always heard W&N are horrible when dried only had issues with ultramarine, it dries and cracks into dust, had to use glycerin to fix it. Holbein is a dream in pans.
@katismith
@katismith 5 жыл бұрын
Two questions. If you get mold, do you just empty that pan and start again? And what 3 primary DS do you recommend as a starting pallette for someone just starting out.
@teohyc
@teohyc 5 жыл бұрын
I would just a pen knife to cut away the mold. Anything that has been infected by mold may be attacked again. There's no way to get rid of mold. The mold could also attack a colour beside but there's nothing to see because mold doesn't grow well on certain pigment/binder/stuff. When my pan gets attacked by mold, I cut away the infected parts, and in future I always leave the box open and well ventilated. As for 3 primary colours, you can try the classic selection Hansa Yellow Medium, French Ultramarine, Permanent Alizarin Crimson (Or Pyrrol Crimson). For more suggestions, visit this playlist kzbin.info/www/bejne/iF6aapZuZ5V0osU
@GigaWhitArtandStuff
@GigaWhitArtandStuff 5 жыл бұрын
I saw a video where someone recommended cutting away mold and then spraying the surface of the paint with a rubbing alcohol solution to prevent further mold growth.
@teohyc
@teohyc 5 жыл бұрын
I have heard of the alcohol but not sure how effective.
@skullpter
@skullpter 5 жыл бұрын
I use a small palette knife to help with filling fresh pans.
@RealmsOfThePossible
@RealmsOfThePossible 3 жыл бұрын
Add a few small drops of Glycerol and mix into the paint while putting it into the pan to prevent cracking and shrinking.
@alisonmcdonald1429
@alisonmcdonald1429 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! And very relevant, as I am attempting to set up a small portable palette for life drawing. Teoh I am wondering if you, or anyone else, has any experience with filling pans with Maimeriblu colours? I've noticed a lot of my colour remain fairly tacky and glossy in for a long time, never really setting. Unsure if I should invest in some of their pre-made pans rather that risking with tube paints.
@teohyc
@teohyc 5 жыл бұрын
Maimeriblu probably used honey which absorbs moisture from the air. That's why it's never dry and look glossy. But these are not fluid paint. So one they are out of the tube, they will still dry and become hard. They won't flow out of pans when dried properly. They are safe to squeeze and use in pans.
@Maria_Steinfeld
@Maria_Steinfeld Жыл бұрын
I have Rembrandt pro 24 pans i have problem some of the pans became creamed.what can I do fix this .
@jeanettegillings7202
@jeanettegillings7202 5 жыл бұрын
Great video - as usual! 👍🏻. Does anyone have a comprehensive list of those DS watercolours which dry rock hard in the pan? Or a way I can soften a hardened pan so that I can mix some honey into it? I’ve got some DS Amethyst Genuiune that I cannot use very well because it like rock 🙁
@everartokelli
@everartokelli 5 жыл бұрын
I had some old Winsor & Newton tubes that turned to rock and I had to cut the pigment out of the tubes. I put chunks into pans, added some water mixed with a couple drops of glycerin (imagine honey will work similarly) and left overnight or maybe for a few days. The paint softened enough to stir and dried into easy to rewet pans. Only issue I had was with my last PY153 WN New Gamboge tube--the paint is stinky now, which I put up with because it's such a lovely color.
@teohyc
@teohyc 5 жыл бұрын
Sodalite Genuine, Viridian are the two I know that are dry really hard. Do research on the Primatek colours. They may dry hard.
@barbaraklein.plussize
@barbaraklein.plussize 5 жыл бұрын
@@teohyc I've seen Oto Kano (another KZbinr) saying that Cobalt Teal Blue by DS was hard to rewet in a video of comparison of brands that produce this color/pigment. Teoh, have you noticed that? In this video you have a half pan filled with that color...
@teohyc
@teohyc 5 жыл бұрын
@@barbaraklein.plussize That's actually a pan that I'm selling. I don't use that colour so I can't say much. Maybe you can ask on Wetcanvas forums.
@barbaraklein.plussize
@barbaraklein.plussize 5 жыл бұрын
@@teohyc Thanks! I'll probably buy the same color from you, lol, so I'll be able to see if it's hard to rewet or not. 🤣👍
@creationslandscapedesigns
@creationslandscapedesigns 5 жыл бұрын
I filled 26 half pans in my palette. Hours later I thought everything was dry so I took it with me resting it on the side only to discover, an hour later that cadmium orange had escaped hahaha. Quick question for you though in regards to the Daniel Smith watercolors is there a way to be able to tell which colors may not work in half pans?
@teohyc
@teohyc 5 жыл бұрын
You can't tell just buy looking. I would be cautious of really fluid ones. E.g. Cerulean Blue Chromium.
@creationslandscapedesigns
@creationslandscapedesigns 5 жыл бұрын
@@teohyc I figured
@mindsQuill
@mindsQuill 4 жыл бұрын
I live in a very humid area. My paints do not dry even after a week of leaving them to dry. What can I do to dry runny paints?
@Cuqcake
@Cuqcake 3 жыл бұрын
If you are drying them in the a metal tin like the one in the video, maybe you can try putting silica gel packs (moisture/oxygen absorbers) in the middle brush storage section.
@1949Elefant
@1949Elefant 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent-- thank you!
@marialauramalventano4014
@marialauramalventano4014 5 жыл бұрын
Hi! I'd like to know your opinion on the komorebi metallic watercolor 6-set. I've read in reviews that the pigments are toxic and also not cruelty-free. I was just going to buy them but I'm seriously having second thoughts now. Are they japanese? Thanks :-)
@skullpter
@skullpter 5 жыл бұрын
I have the Meeden 24 pan palette and there is nowhere near enough room in the middle to insert more pans, yet I've seen where people have done this with the 12=pan palettes. Is that a Meeden palette in this video?
@barbaraklein.plussize
@barbaraklein.plussize 5 жыл бұрын
I have the same palette and there's no room to insert more paint in the middle. I have a small pallet from Paul Rubens (12 metallic half pans) that allow me to insert 6 half pans in the middle though, along with 7 half pans in the default rows. I think it depends on the brand and how the boxes are built. 👍
@teohyc
@teohyc 5 жыл бұрын
Really depends on the metal box. Some have space enough to fit the pans horizontally, some can fit the pans vertically even in the middle row. But some can just out a small brush there.
@lindyashford7744
@lindyashford7744 5 жыл бұрын
If you don't mind a bit of vandalism of your tin the strips will lever off quite easily and you can glue them back in with a slightly bigger gap. I have done this with the 24 half pan set, the smaller 12 colour boxes I find are easier, and I do not bother to reglue them, I can usually fit 21 half pans in and they are a pretty tight fit. To make sure the ones in the middle row stay in well I use magnetic dots and they work really well. These tins will also take 12 WhiteNights full pans if you do this, I have three tins like this of their colours and it is a lot more convenient than a huge tin.
@moniquecaton3285
@moniquecaton3285 2 жыл бұрын
I have 58, 30ml pans. I know that when I open them they will have Gum Arabic on the top. I plan on mixing them really well and then putting then into smaller portions. When they are dry all the way, I have lids for them. Can you think of anything else that I can do? Thank you for your help. I love your videos. I hope that you are well.
@teohyc
@teohyc 2 жыл бұрын
You can use a toothpick or needle to mix the gum arabic with the pigment. Personally, I would squeeze out and remove the gum arabic. Doesn't seem to affect the paint consistency or quality.
@hmichael228
@hmichael228 5 жыл бұрын
Teoh have to tried adding a few drops of glycerin when you're filling the pans as that basically stop the cracking. stir it in with a toothpick.
@jalsiddharth
@jalsiddharth 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Teoh! I had a bunch of doubts, would love some clarity on this. 1) Is a pan 4ml == tube 4ml? 2) Why are pan colors + plastic/metal palettes so expensive compared to tube sets without palettes? For e.g, I find WNights 12 x 10ml tubes for 25$, but then 12 half pans of the same with that small plastic palette costing nearly the same? That's like 25-50ml of paint compared to 120ml. This doesn't make any sense. What am I missing here? Thanks. :)
@lizhooton1552
@lizhooton1552 5 жыл бұрын
Using a full pan seems to be a bit easier on the brushes, can pick up the paint from the body of the brush rather than mashing the tip into the smaller halfpan.
@ohbli_oh
@ohbli_oh 2 жыл бұрын
Something I can’t find anyone has covered on KZbin is which brand of watercolour pan lasts the longest. I just noticed today how QoR and Schmincke pans seem to disappear really fast whereas winsor and Newton ones have lasted me maybe twice as long. Would be hard to test accurately that’s probably why but. There are many videos covering how good certain brands are but not at what cost. Horadam aren’t any better than W&N in my opinion but perhaps any slight perception of quality is simply that more of the paint is coming off the pan at any time. Tubes are another matter and much harder to quantify than pre made pans.
@teohyc
@teohyc 2 жыл бұрын
There are a few factors that determine how long the pans/tube can last. If it's student quality, you may have to use more paint to achieve the intensity/vibrant colours. If the colour has low tinting strength, you have to use more paint to get intense colour. E.g. Phthalo and Quinacridone colours are high tinting and paint tube/pan will last for a long time. Compared to e.g. Cerulean Blue, Cobalt Blue Deep which will get used up quite fast even if it's artist grade. Even within WN, there are high and low tint colours. If you want really long lasting colours, go with colours that have chemical sounding names.
@ohbli_oh
@ohbli_oh 2 жыл бұрын
@@teohyc that’s a good point in general - my cobalt violet is the most used colour yet I hardly use it. Probably for the reasons you suggest. But with artist grade pans the schmincke all get used up far quicker than the W&N. Every colour. I’ve done a few swatches and not even a painting and they are down the same amount of paint as W&N that have been used for 5 years and done a good 30 paintings. It seems to me their formulation just gets used quicker but it doesn’t enhance the paint vs the W&N. So I wonder at the value of various artist brand pans when taking into account how long each lasts. QOR is vanishing fast too.
@DulceDok
@DulceDok 5 жыл бұрын
Teoh, I heard that adding a bit of glycerin might prevent paints from cracking... never tried, and I am not sure if I would try with expensive paints, though....
@art_files
@art_files 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ralvindizon1140
@ralvindizon1140 5 жыл бұрын
I had a problem with Sennelier's Caput Mortum, it is been 2 months since I pour it into the pans and the paint is not dry up to this day, It's not runny, but the paint is so sticky like melting chocolate..
@zara4leafclover
@zara4leafclover 5 жыл бұрын
I also have a few Sennelier colors including Caput Mortum it been 2 years and that pan has never dried, neither have the others. I think they will always remain sticky to the touch but they don't move around. I have taken my palette to many places, as long as the pans are secure you're okay. I also live in more arid climate people who live in places with a lot of humidity might have more problems.
@teohyc
@teohyc 5 жыл бұрын
As long as the paint doesn't run, it's okay. That's more important because it can mess up other colours.
@ralvindizon1140
@ralvindizon1140 5 жыл бұрын
@@teohyc thanks Teoh
@colorcrazy2944
@colorcrazy2944 5 жыл бұрын
When you are opening a new tube that you are concerned might rush out, Jane Blundell has a video saying to hold the tube near the bottom on the sides so you can squeeze it quickly to stop the paint. I had a couple of tubes do that & I just panicked lol, but I know this works if you have a bit of the paint above the rim that you want back inside the tube. I have heard someone recommends not filling pans completely, just about half way and on a slant to protect brush tips. I don't know if that would be worth the trouble though, have you had many brushes wear out? For the colors that do not stick well in the pans, I saw on 1 of your videos The Spin Doctor posted that they use a drop of gum arabic to glue it down. This seems to be working very well for me. He has a video kzbin.info/www/bejne/eX3Fpmh3bLOHsKc I am not good at the metric system, but ml is milliliter not millimeter. I often use words that aren't the ones I meant to say, so maybe that was just a slip of the tongue....
@teohyc
@teohyc 5 жыл бұрын
If you fill the pans to the brim, just angle your brush rather than poke at the paint. That will prevent damage to the brush.
@kittyarchon
@kittyarchon 5 жыл бұрын
That's actually a great tip though. One of my palletes have sloping wells for paints. I guess that would be a great idea for filling half pans too, unless you really want to fill them up to the rim.
@mell5111
@mell5111 Жыл бұрын
M Graham was my first paint as a beginner and was such a disaster I'll probably always steer clear. Very messy, but i wasn't ready for the deep end yet😂
@Queenread82
@Queenread82 5 жыл бұрын
I like your idea of first filling the corners. Have you tried tapping the pans to level and work out air bubbles? I want to move into filling pans or a segmented palette so these vids are really helpful. :-)
@teohyc
@teohyc 5 жыл бұрын
You can also use a toothpick to push the paint around. But I find filling the corners quite effective
@Queenread82
@Queenread82 5 жыл бұрын
@@teohyc I have a mental block about using a toothpick. It is utterly silly but I think I am wasting paint on the toothpick. so silly but still.
@teohyc
@teohyc 5 жыл бұрын
@@Queenread82 That's why I don't use toothpick too
@barbaraklein.plussize
@barbaraklein.plussize 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Teoh! Awesome video as usual. Could you make a video comparing Daniel Smith and Jackson's Art paint? I'm going to London in October and I want to buy some spare tubes. DS is way more expansive then Jackson's, so I don't know what brand to get. I know the paint you usually use is DS because it's great quality, but I'm prone to try Jackson's too because of the price. There's a rumour that Jackson's is made by Sennelier, do you think they compare in quality? I'm looking forward to your comment on that brand, thanks in advance. 😉👍
@teohyc
@teohyc 5 жыл бұрын
Jackson's Art paint is very fluid so they are best used at home. You can still squeeze them into pans, you just need to make sure to dry them thoroughly until they don't move. As for quality, they are good.
@barbaraklein.plussize
@barbaraklein.plussize 5 жыл бұрын
@@teohyc Thank you so much! That was exactly the information I needed. I live in a really humid region, so I'm not sure if it would be safe to use Jackson's Art paint for plein air. I'd probably get them running out of the pans inside my pallet after use. I'll stick with my original plan of getting Daniel Smith paint then. Thanks for helping us Teoh, your channel is one of the best out there, keep up the good work. 👏👏👏👏👏
@riccardo9291
@riccardo9291 5 жыл бұрын
Hi teoh! 👋🏻 caput mortum Made by sennelier is unsusable outboor, it runs Everywhere 😱
@latestarossa
@latestarossa 3 жыл бұрын
I find a lot of videos on how to fill a pan, but no video that shows how to get out the paint, when it s almost used up so you can add new paint in it, it would be heplfull to find one, or do youjust trow the pans away?
@teohyc
@teohyc 3 жыл бұрын
You can just use a pen knife to cut out the paint. Or just throw the empty pans away and buy new ones for new colours.
@hollyp31
@hollyp31 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone know if winsor and newton cotman dry in pans?
@CharleyWang
@CharleyWang 5 жыл бұрын
subscribed to your channel, great! Always share your experience in time, I am also trying to keep up with your rhythm, my channel theme is to follow the painter to travel.
@muskndusk
@muskndusk 5 жыл бұрын
Do you add glycerine to the paints to prevent cracking?
@teohyc
@teohyc 5 жыл бұрын
I don't. Certain colours or brands are more likely to crack
@brendalarson7854
@brendalarson7854 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do this with acrylic paints?
@teohyc
@teohyc 3 жыл бұрын
Probably not because acrylic dries to be permanent and you can't rewet it. That's why acrylic is not sold in pan form, always in tubes, cans, or containers.
@brendalarson7854
@brendalarson7854 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, Thank you!!!!.
@narinemanderine7531
@narinemanderine7531 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your wisdom ❤️
@mappgirl
@mappgirl 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Teoh, Can you recommend which pans to buy? Or, are they all good? :-) Your videos are fantastic, I recommend you to loads of people. Cheers from Canada.
@teohyc
@teohyc 2 жыл бұрын
You mean empty pans? They are pretty much similar. If you're looking for pans with paint, you can just go with the well known brands. It's best to get the brand where you can find tubes that you can buy easily to refill in the future.
@mappgirl
@mappgirl 2 жыл бұрын
@@teohyc Thank you for your kind and quick reply :-) I'm thinking of empty pans. Would you suggest any in particular, or, are they all pretty much the same? Thank you in advance.
@teohyc
@teohyc 2 жыл бұрын
@@mappgirl Empty ones are usually standard size.
@mappgirl
@mappgirl 2 жыл бұрын
@@teohyc I would imagine they are all of equal quality, thanks! I'm thinking of making little travel sketch kits from candy tins, spray the lid for mixing, and gift them to folks to encourage urban sketching 🙂
@davef85
@davef85 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve been using Holbein paints and I love them, but they shrink so much!
@frannypie.
@frannypie. 5 жыл бұрын
i prefer thumbnails like this one :)
@Jbickley00
@Jbickley00 5 жыл бұрын
Sennelier sells paint in pans, is there a disadvantage to just buying pans to begin with?
@Claufer16
@Claufer16 5 жыл бұрын
It's more expensive. This way you can refill the pan a few times 🤔
@HgoArt
@HgoArt 5 жыл бұрын
No. But Sennelier uses a different formula for pans and tubes, so some colors may differ. Tubes sometimes have to much (or separated) binder that make the use on pans more difficult. So buying pans may be a safer option, especially in humid climates.
@InLiquidColor
@InLiquidColor 5 жыл бұрын
@@HgoArt seconded! This brand uses different formulas so it does matter based on your preference.
@teohyc
@teohyc 5 жыл бұрын
Sennelier paint has honey so they are more fluid, and may not dry hard. So if you paint outdoors, and it's humid, it can be difficult to dry the colours and they may run out of the pans. The Sennelier pans however dry very easily.
@cristalclear5625
@cristalclear5625 5 жыл бұрын
Teoh - very informative, what brand was that 12 half pan palette you showed in the beginning? I've been looking for a small palette that can fit pans down the middle.
@teohyc
@teohyc 5 жыл бұрын
That empty metal box? It's just a typical 12 half pan metal box. Many company would just stamp their brand on it to sell. You can find it easily on eBay (from China sellers) at good prices.
@cristalclear5625
@cristalclear5625 5 жыл бұрын
@Emily Thanks, I'll check that brand out.
@cristalclear5625
@cristalclear5625 5 жыл бұрын
@@teohyc Yeah, well I tried a no brand one out and that one unfortunately didn't fit any pans in the middle. I now know that at least the Meeden brand, as suggested above by Emily, does fulfil this requirement.
@teohyc
@teohyc 5 жыл бұрын
Some boxes can fit the pans vertically, some horizontally in the middle row
@colorcrazy2944
@colorcrazy2944 5 жыл бұрын
it looks a lot like this set, the video shows how pans will fit in the middle, if you don't mind it coming with paint in it, they make more than 1 version if you don't like the colors....kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXmac4Z7o6aKeNU
@kylie1651
@kylie1651 4 жыл бұрын
Is it normal for my watercolor paint to take more than a week? I filled my watercolour half pans a week ago with Daniel smith watercolour tubs and only the surface dried the middle is still wet
@teohyc
@teohyc 4 жыл бұрын
Several factors affect drying. The pigment, amount of binder, and the humidity at your place. Try to close the box, leave a gap, and put the paint under sunlight
@kylie1651
@kylie1651 4 жыл бұрын
Teoh Yi Chie thank you!
@LeesChannel
@LeesChannel 5 жыл бұрын
M. Graham!
@kikeheebchinkjigaboo6631
@kikeheebchinkjigaboo6631 5 жыл бұрын
Make your own watercolors with natural pigments
@CrystalMartinArt
@CrystalMartinArt 3 жыл бұрын
What happens if you use the paint before it is dried completely? I'm sorry, I'm a complete newbie at watercolors.
@teohyc
@teohyc 3 жыл бұрын
You just pick up the paint, just like how you would use it with paint tubes.
@CrystalMartinArt
@CrystalMartinArt 3 жыл бұрын
@@teohyc Do you still sell the sets on the website?
@teohyc
@teohyc 3 жыл бұрын
@@CrystalMartinArt Yes I do. You can contact me at www.parkablogs.com/contact
@susanbradford4543
@susanbradford4543 5 жыл бұрын
Winsor Newton also works well.
@teohyc
@teohyc 5 жыл бұрын
Works very well. One of the better brands to squeeze in pans.
@annepercival7814
@annepercival7814 5 жыл бұрын
Personally I find that Windsor and Newton tube paints once squeezed into pans are not easy to rewet
@susanbradford4543
@susanbradford4543 5 жыл бұрын
anne percival It depends on the color. I have had trouble with Perylene Marrón. Other than that specific color, not a problem. I do prefer Daniel Smith in general too.
@everartokelli
@everartokelli 5 жыл бұрын
​I think it depends on the color and one's climate. I usually add a drop of glycerin to WN paints in pans.
@visionofawallflower
@visionofawallflower 5 жыл бұрын
If you find filling up your paint tedious, you are in the wrong profession lol
@teohyc
@teohyc 5 жыл бұрын
It’s alright. I don’t fill them that frequently. lol
@loati94
@loati94 3 жыл бұрын
It's my favorite part when I buy new tubes!
@cindyguy5496
@cindyguy5496 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
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