"All legacy bands should RETIRE"

Should all legacy bands retire? Was the Blink 182 reunion album a cash grab? Was easycore the pinnacle of music? I react to your hot takes.
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[@PalmelaHanderson]

Legacy bands still headlining shows is a symptom of the death of the monoculture. The last time we all listened to the same stuff was when everyone still listened to the radio, so the bands that were big then are still the ones headlining shows. Rock/metal is more affected by this than other genres because everyone gets sucked into their own subgenre bubble and is oblivious to everything else. Remember - Spiritbox and Falling in Reverse both opened for Papa Roach on tour last year.

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

Well said

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

I think the true reason older bands don't hang it up is because of the lack of competition from modern rock and metal bands. You don't actually get a choice to headline massive tours if a young Metallica, Pantera, Iron Maiden etc knocks you out of the slot.

[@RafitoOoO]

​@@CIRCLEOFTONEit's not there isn't competition, it's just that bands don't have the same reach anymore. Guys like Spiritbox, Bad Omens, Sleep Token got massive in the past few years and they still pale in comparison to bands like Metallica or Guns n' Roses. Rock isn't mainstream anymore, normies don't even know who these bands are, but they know who Metallica is.

[@christopherblue2004]

We will never see a legacy band ever again.

[@darrenthetuber743]

​@@christopherblue2004 music today is anti-legacy, so, no there won't be any legacy acts

[@Martin_Koepl]

Becoming a legacy act is one of the few ways to be able to fill stadiums nowadays for rock, metal and similar bands: You need a multi generational audience to be able to pull that stunt.

[@christiandauz3742]

Judas Priests and Ozzy Osbourne make new music that is actually good 'One of those Days' by Ozzy and Eric Clapton deserves a few listens by everyone!

[@KingBattlon]

Just saw Judas Priest in Boston and was blown away!

[@jessemcclellan5278]

@@KingBattlon Trial by fire is a cool newer song by them. I was impressed.

[@elosoguapo8137]

The sad fact is that the legacy is nearly over. Twenty years from now there won’t be any stadium tours unless something drastic happens and I don’t see it.

[@christiandauz3742]

@@elosoguapo8137 Bmth, Bad Omens, Falling in Reverse, Mick Gordon and Sleeptoken could fill the void

[@crusty_breads]

70 year old Finn will be the spokesperson for "NOW THAT'S what I call NU-METAL vols. 1-15, lol...

[@Skycladatdusk78]

12 of those volumes will just be Butterfly by Crazy Town.

[@brycev.5170]

​​@@Skycladatdusk78😂😂😂😂😂 I walked out of their show in the middle of that song

[@Veany]

"I refuse to call it X." That's exactly how all the locals in Chicago feels about The Sears Tower. We refuse to call it the current name since like 2009. lol

[@blakedavis2447]

I don’t know what the new current name is and I don’t care it’s the sears tower forever

[@Veany]

@@blakedavis2447 For- Fucking - Ever!

[@jimmym3352]

I thought it was called the Sears tower. Shows how much I know about Chicago.

[@Veany]

@@jimmym3352 that because it IS the Sears tower.

[@stinkypinkeee5085]

I was living there at the time, bever heard anything else, besides the news...

[@keithheames992]

Just seen Priest last month, it was a top 5 show I've ever seen! My wife, who only knows the radio songs, was blown away.

[@ashleybrown4754]

I've always found it amazing that they made Painkiller, one of the most metal songs ever, so late into their career. They are an exception.

[@RafitoOoO]

I watched them on December 22 and it was amazing. A shame it was in a festival and I had just finished Sepultura, Pantera and BMTH shows so I was exhausted and had to sit down and watch it from afar.

[@musicman76]

Exactly! I took my kids to Sonic Temple this year and Judas Priest kicked ass! My son asked when is the next time we can see them 🤘

[@bitzie7195]

Lucky. I finally saw them a couple years ago. Completely disappointing show. Rob spent the whole show singing to the floor at his feet. He never engaged with the crowd until just before the very last song of the show; he spent more time playing dressup... They sounded pretty amazing at least, but will I go to another Priest show if they happen to come here again? Hell no.

[@robertedwards1181]

Saxon !!!!!!

[@bongo_baggins]

I'm tired of people accusing bands of doing cash grab shit. It's their job, the point is to make money. Also in this day and age, if you're not actively grabbing cash, you go poor. Period. Also, I agree with the chicken sandwich thing. The first time I tried Popeye's Chicken sandwich, I completely understood all of those news stories about people getting stabbed over them. Would I stab someone over it? No, but if someone stabbed me I'd be like "Ahhh I got stabbed! But I get it bro, enjoy it.. for me.. hrrerk..."

[@pensivepenguin3000]

I’m conflicted about the commercial aspect of music. From an artistic standpoint, I think it can lead to some really shallow and disingenuous music when the motivation is only making money, but like you said, there is a career component to it. I don’t think it always has to be one or the other. Many legacy bands still manage to put out decent, if not amazing, music in there later years, so I think there’s a balance to be found

[@dalekay9ine]

Exactly, it's their job and it's the way they make a living. Why go work a normal job at 60-70 when you can do what you love and in most cases make more now than when you were a brand new band.

[@lucaslogg1024]

Legacy bands are getting better. Usually legacy acts would suck, but look at Geen Day, Korn, Slipknot, Blink. It's not the best material. But at least waaay better than expected. And they can still make pure bangers! For 20 years ago, a band that would be considered legacy act would suck.

[@CSG370]

Completely agree. Slowly over time, legacy bands' output -- in general -- has gotten much better. It may not be groundbreaking or earth-shattering, but there's a reason for them to still exist.

[@aliasfakename2267]

I have to disagree with Slipknot and Korn, I haven't liked a single track from either of them in a decade or more.

[@FELTSZ]

​@@aliasfakename2267 Slipknot went towards a weird progressive sound. "Not Long For This World", "Finale", "Solway Firth" are really great compositions that deserve praise.

[@bladempale1751]

@@FELTSZAt this point, slipknot just sounds like stone sour

[@toedrag-release]

Megadeth is going through a renaissance. Their last album was really good and dystopia was great

[@HappinessDIY]

The main reason I like legacy bands is there are some I’ve never seen before I like my last shot at experiencing them even if not in their prime. But otherwise I agree.

[@chernobylcoleslaw6698]

Still waiting for my 'Buttrock With Breakdowns' merch!

[@douglasscott_pronounced_Mike]

Because butt rock already has breakdowns

[@drummerAVA]

Beavis and Buttrock ….. 🤘

[@mramisuzuki6962]

Isn’t that just Fall Out Boy?

[@michaelsantangelo6192]

I think it's fine for legacy bands to keep going if they're still good. Maiden still puts out quality music and plays good shows. A band like AC/DC however, needs to retire.

[@pensivepenguin3000]

I thought they did, like a decade ago? Last I heard, Brian Johnson had ear troubles and wasn’t with them anymore. Is someone else singing for them now? I can’t imagine why anyone would go see that

[@bmx4life4242]

Brian Johnson was able to rejoin for the latest album in 2020 and they’re currently on tour 😂

[@pewterschmidt23lord99]

@@pensivepenguin3000 pretty sure the guitarist isnt doing too well nowadays

[@truthhurts79]

Ac/Dc plays music perfectly for their age... What are you talking about???

[@Breadmakerc]

90% of music is trash, the rest is Kid Rocks discography

[@infidelmat]

So 10% is super-trash?

[@SteveDave5763]

Ha nice

[@jackpw6593]

Lol

[@rockerpirate]

American bad ass right there brother

[@TheCondorjc]

Wrong. The rest is MGK’s discography

[@fogpumas]

$45 Gorilla Biscuits tix should just be the imax experience. All nostalgia

[@zachsmith1634]

My first impression on Juggalos growing up was that they are bullies. Very mean people. But that’s because the only juggalos I knew when I was young were my friend’s older brothers group of friends and they were super mean dudes. As I got older and met other Juggalos I realized that’s not necessarily true and a lot of them are super friendly.

[@EastyyBlogspot]

Rob halford thankfully still sounds great i know that is not common with many bands with the lead singer

[@bennymountain1]

In a perfect world he would sound great on a bi-annual reunion show or cruise ship, not touring full time hogging the cash flow.

[@morlun838]

​@@bennymountain1 The bands opening for Priest make more and get more exposure than playing for wherever they would be otherwise.

[@pensivepenguin3000]

@@bennymountain1 but supply and demand, right? They wouldn’t continue these large tourss if people didn’t buy tickets and show up. If you were a career musician, wouldn’t you do the same? Why would you stop filling the demand if you still enjoyed playing and were still capable of putting on a good show?

[@tweezersalad4075]

Ministry been needing to hang up the towel for a while, however Al finally doing his synth era stuff live. Hoping he does a full tour before retiring/dying

[@southerntrendkill4889]

But how else would we know he still watches CNN?

[@misterspikex]

Al’s been retiring since 2008.

[@Ghostwolfdk]

If a band with 40 or 50 years on the run , still makes killer tunes ... let them keep going !

[@kushking420]

I think if The Police came together again, they could probably make one last great album. Sting and Stewart Copeland are still very talented, and Stewart is full of energy for his age, its unreal lol

[@SaintMartins]

Legacy bands need to exist for those younger fans to get their chance to see a legendary band live. I was a Punk in the 1980's and back then i was always sad that i never saw the Sex Pistols live....until 1996 when they did their reunion tour. In 2013 i finally saw Black Sabbath WITH Ozzy live. Another bucket list band.

[@Fortnite87463]

I cant knock a legacy band for obvious reasons but you are right because it’s essentially a comfort zone kind of situation. Since the modern music world is so different and most people statistically are stuck listening to old music it really pushes a culture of digging up good music from the past and not the current day which kills many smaller and equally talented bands. I live in a town of 100,000 people have seen some insanely good rock bands. Crazy good live shows. It hurts seeing them not get traction

[@randomrandom450]

If feel that good art can only spawn with the risk of making something bad. If you never take the risk of failing, you'll never make something special and unique.

[@kipschumm1849]

I feel like gaming and music are in a similar place in terms of barriers to entry, it’s great that so many people now can access tools to create fun and innovative indie games, at the same time there’s so much shovelware clogging up Steam or the Nintendo eshop

[@android521]

Are you going to do any more music video reactions?? Been a while. Would love to see you react to the new ADTR track Feedback. It sucks lol

[@real30yearoldboomerhours53]

A Nickelback to Remember lol

[@uneven_grooves]

Can you please check out the band Archers? I’m confused as to what exact genre they fall into. Pop punk with aggressive vocals and breakdowns - and they’re American! Seems up your alley… will catch you on your next stream!

[@Christian-ui2vb]

Going to see Red Hot Chili Peppers in 2 weeks and hoping to see Pearl Jam and a few other legacy acts this year. I’m 19 and have never been to a concert yet, I am extremely thankful some of these rock HOF legacy acts tour so people my age can experience music they love live while they are still alive

[@Jeffmetal42]

saw Megadeath my first time a couple of years ago and they sounded great. If a band is obviously burnt out and done, only milking it for a check (Motley Crue) yea, then they should hang it up. There are a lot of legacy bands still kicking ass out there though.

[@NAlvazaz]

Megadeth sounds even better this year and Dave's even more energetic these days as well. So yes, Megadeth is awesome! Any thrash band is kick ass nowadays. While Slayer is retired, Kerry King's stuff sounded great. So legacy metal/thrash, etc is awesome!

[@mattkraig]

your outro audio bytes remind me of King Of The Hill and I absolutely love it

[@ZANGELIX1263]

I hope you are feeling well after that stream the other day Finn! Genuinely! Not sure who said what but somebody got your goat good haha. Love your content as always!

[@HeroInTragedy]

X and twitter is the same thing. No difference honestly, who cares

[@WernzMacSqizzle]

Bless you Finn for saying funny one liners, and most of all, bless your editor who puts them at the end of your videos, they get me every single time!!! 😛😛😛

[@deanjackson6778]

Yeah when it comes to Juggalos I remember seeing Social Distortion in Denver decade or more ago and there was a Insane Clown Posse show up the street on Colfax and Mike Ness was talking about back in the day when punk rock was dangerous and colored hair and the normal atypical speech he gives about supposedly growing up in the scene and in the same breath started talking s*** about Juggalos and Insane Clown Posse and it kind of occurred to me then that maybe many punk rockers specially someone like the above mentioned is a bit of a poser or a bit narrow mined maybe. I don't like Juggalos or Insane Clown Posse but I think it's great they found themselves

[@paultesi1878]

Although I do agree that some legacy bands should retire at this point but at the same time I can still really appreciate it I’m 21 now but I grew up on 80s metal and hearing the stories from my dad sneaking out to Iron Maiden concerts as a kid and other crazy stories he had and really doing a great job of explaining to me why this era of music was so great I always wished that I could’ve experienced that era and now I can with my dad this November in an Iron Maiden concert and i get to experience this with him so while I do understand that these guys are getting old I still appreciate though at the same time they are still touring and seeing some videos Bruce Dickinson and the bands energy is still there! UP THE IRONS 🤘😎🤘

[@alastaircenter9596]

I love it when you do these types of hot take videos. You need to do more of em Finn!

[@Eirik36]

Imma be so depressed when Maiden call it a day, but so happy that I got to see them multiple times live

[@trebmal007]

Have been following Pearl Jam around the planet since 1998, I do not think they should retire, they're still putting out new music and their live shows are still top notch.

[@neutney]

Can confirm, saw them in Vancouver for the opening if the tour and they were amazing, it helps that they just dropped an album that fits nicely with the first 3 albums, for me.

[@dalekay9ine]

When the legacy acts take other band that are smaller out on tour as their openers that IS in turn passing the torch and giving these acts an entirely new crowd they wouldn't have found without the legacy acts helping out the smaller artists.

[@brittislove]

17:00 - bro, my freshman year in highschool was nearly 30 years ago and it is STILL THE SAME F'IN BANDS FROM BACK THEN. I'm so over all those legacy bands, go away, especially you Motley Crue.

[@stridersmythe8860]

no one asking you to listen.

[@ackyducc5040]

Judas priest is basically the only legacy band that has somehow still managed to stay cool

[@elosoguapo8137]

Pixies are still cool. BOC and DEVO still crush.

[@RB-oc7ti]

Thats not true…and I love Priest.

[@TaxEvader420]

Not cool cause they're just too damn old, and I love Priest. But the most listenable for sure

[@kylereece1979]

New album is Brilliant. "The Serpent and the King" is an incredible song that, is one of their heaviest. Halford sounds amazing!

[@Phalanx345]

They are definitely the one legacy band that can still bring the house down. They somehow sound better as they've gotten older. They just show up in leather with a motor cycle and its still a great time. They don't even seem to be full of themselves like other legacy bands. *cough *cough Maiden * cough

[@SkinnyEatWorld95]

I also bought one of those shirts. Thanks Finn!

[@NuMetalDad]

I yell at the TV daily because of people using the word myself incorrectly. Number one offenders = cops in those murder reality shows. "So, myself and officer Williams arrived on the scene."

[@aliasfakename2267]

I hate when people in the comments say "I could care less"

[@taymalloy1604]

There is a reason why these legendary bands are still playing! They are some of the best bands you will see still. If they are still going, why not? \m/ :) there is a reaosn they are still on top! Even some bands I wasn't even a fan of were amazing live.

[@pancakeburglar9361]

I kind of agree with the legacy bands retire thing, well maybe take more of a back seat. But rock and metal fans are unfortunately so conditioned to seeing the same handful of legacy bands headlining festivals that they get all upset when a newer band gets high billing on a tour or festival lineup. Look at all the metal boomers upset that Bad Omens is headlining Mayhem Fest this year instead of another 30-40 year old legacy band. The scene needs to progress forward.

[@bladempale1751]

Well tbf, Bad Omens is pop trash!

[@pancakeburglar9361]

@@bladempale1751 Nah, they’re a great band and doing something fresh for the genre.

[@northwindkey]

@@pancakeburglar9361Not really. Everything Bad Omens does has been done before. And better. Bring Me The Horizon did it better. Our problem with Bad Omens isn’t “Grr metalheads hate everything new!!!”, it’s that it’s Bad Omens. Lorna Shore is new, Lorna Shore is trendy, plenty of us would be fine with it being Lorna Shore. Or Bring Me The Horizon for that matter. Our problem isn’t “new band”. Our problem is Bad Omens.

[@nbunnysnowboard]

I went through a Juggalo/ Psychopathic Records phase in high school and right after high school and I went to a Boondox concert and it was awesome! The people are so nice and it genuinely felt like a huge family. You wouldn’t think of it from what the outside world thinks about them but it’s good vibes all around at the concerts. They’re so welcoming into their world, they have their own customs, drink, and culture and it was cool to be a part of it for a bit. I don’t play their music myself now but if someone else played them I wouldn’t be mad

[@blackmesacake5361]

I really don't like Slipknot's newest album all that much, but god damn do i love We Are Not Your Kind

[@Szczauqa]

it's kinda freaky but a few tiers above the newest album. solway firth is a closer the leaves you with such a wonderful warm feeling

[@need4speed5353]

WANYK is so underrated. In my opinion, it's almost on par with Volume 3. I'm hoping that TESF was just rushed to get out of their record deal and they'll make something better in the future

[@rlink80]

We opened for Green Jello/y, it was sick! Two of the other bands had a fistfight on stage!

[@jessehaaland7689]

They are sic .I've seen every green jelly for the last 3 shows.i wish I saw them along time ago.seeing them in el corazon in 2 months

[@raipier]

There is nothing to take their place. There is no wide spread anthem songs that cross all genre, ages, and emotions for the long term.

[@Sithman1776]

I respectfully disagree with the title of this video. Any band, imo, should be able to stay at the top as long as they are still putting out new, quality:inspired material. AC/DC released a banger album a couple years ago. Maiden’s new stuff is some of their best. Judas Prieat just released what many fans consider to be their 2nd or 3rd best album. Metallica’s latest album is a good one. Having said that, when a band just coasts on the old stuff (or the new stuff is recycled crap), I agree it’s time to hang it up. Bands like Motley Crue fit into the hang it up category for me.

[@blacktide888]

Well here’s some good news Finn, the Mayhem festival just announced it’s comeback , and Bad Omens is headlining it. So at least there’s that. Very happy to see it.

[@TrentAdam]

I hope they play as long as possible. I enjoy seeing them live.

[@XvXMONSTERXvX]

12:16 As a jugglo, Icp gives me hope and courage to keep chasing my dreams against all odds and their probably the one place I feel accepted , the message they put out with the dark carnival as a guide to sort of live your life in a healthy and honorable way is really cool even if they themselves are imperfect people.

[@hulluporo9067]

The lastest Blink album is solid for a legacy band. 90 % of all legacy bands shouldn´t release new albums. They should do a tour here and there and everybody would be happy.

[@MrInitialMan]

If they're still coming up with new music, I wouldn't call them a legacy band, tbh. They're a band who have been around a long time, but still keep coming out with new music. If a band plays the same big songs over and over again at their concerts, THEN they are a legacy band. If they put on a concert, play an old hit or two, then a whole bunch of music they wrote last year, then obviously, they've still got something left in the tank.

[@oldsmobilethompson1658]

Mr. Finn, we need a continuum or graph involving hedonism and some other traits among bands or fan bases

[@Mr_jz_12]

Have seen blink 182, the offspring and sum41 live in the past year and bit..... they were all fucking amazing live.

[@musicman76]

Saw Sum41 last month and they were amazing! Crowd was insane

[@zakkmiller8242]

Aren't these legacy bands holding up the rock fest market?

[@brianschittig4198]

The guys from four year strong and new found saw my pop punk with breakdowns shirt when I saw them a few years ago and they all loved it

[@Jorgetime]

I will never get tired of you analyzing the Chunk Captain song lmao

[@dsxa918]

RE: legacy bands - Finn says "can we move on" I agree a little, but Green Day Pearl Jam and Red Hot Chili Peppers are "1990's bands" who still put out cd's I will buy - in the 2020's. It's for me, like was said earlier about Blink 182 - how it's not their best music but "they're still doing it". Name me 1 or better yet, dozens of 'modern' rock bands as good as any of those four? You have to get looking at individual city's scenes and probably buy home-made or 'limited edition' pressings to buy modern band's music that possibly won't be as good I think the point is made well, referencing Iron Maiden and The Scorpions... like - if they've still got fans.... Like the "easycore is the pinnacle of music" point made. It's subjectively true, at least, I don't think there's the same level of objectivity coming back - we can even agree Taylor Swift has probably not got a lot of new music left, that represents anything comparable with where she has already been.

[@trowa9960]

Maybe I'm interpreting the word "sucks" a bit differently. I think there's so much talent out in the world, even if much of it is not to my interest. I don't enjoy listening to country music but I can recognize that much of it is done by very talented musicians. So I can't say they suck, I can just say it's not my thing and I don't enjoy it. Same with many KZbinrs. There are people that create interesting content but it may not be to my personal interests, but they are still talented creators. Even with classical music - I love Beethoven and Mozart but Haydn is boring as crap. That doesn't mean Haydn sucks, the guy was a genius composer. It just means it is not to my tastes. Point being, that saying 80% - 95% of music (or other) sucks is just the complete inability to step outside yourself. If "sucks" means you personally don't like it, then perhaps it works. I just interpret the words "sucks" to mean an objective lack of talent or ability. Maybe we're just having a language thing here.

[@midnighttrain7844]

Four year strong's debut album and set your goals ‘This Will Be The Death Of Us’’ are the two definitive albums of Eazycore to me, god tier shit. Funny thing is the very first time that I heard FYS song is from the Drop Dead clothing website (Oli syke's clothing brand) back in 07-08, they were the ambassadors of the brand, so DD played their songs from the debut album at website lol

[@PBLO_PBLO]

Blink's last album is great. The first half is calling back to their past style, and the second half is pushing forward with songs like "Turpentine" and "Childhood".

[@henryfonseca4198]

Finn is more than alright dammit. Your awesome Finn Texas in here🤘🏼

[@sp00g37]

I feel like venues do this. My parents call it deer creek, i call it verizon, my sister calls it bankers life, and my brothers call it Klipsch. All the same concert venue, just generational difference. Twitter and x will just always be the same thing

[@garyyoung9577]

Growing up we had a convenience store down the street that went through three name changes in the time I lived there. You could always tell how long someone lived in the neighborhood by which name they called it.

[@TheREALJosephTurner]

"It'll always be Deer Creek to me." Guess my age, LOL.

[@sp00g37]

@@TheREALJosephTurner my parents aren't much older than me, so I would assumed your 45-50 at the oldest

[@TheREALJosephTurner]

@@sp00g37 Close! 53. Saw A LOT of shows at that venue. I think they're still calling it Ruoff Music Center these days unless they've changed it again.

[@subparnaturedocumentary]

@09:15 im not the deepest into the genre or anything but i do recall icp has some currency for a brief moment in the late 90s early 2000s from three 6 mafia and i think juicy j even wore their stuff in a video and they had some brief feud with eminem

[@elburkey3981]

X being called twitter is fine. My mom still calls the grocery store “the old Acme” even though it hasn't been the Acme since ‘85.

[@Skycladatdusk78]

I have mixed feelings on the legacy band thing, if you're still putting out great new music like Judas Priest and Green Day then I see no problem carrying on. Now if you just tour for a check while putting out no new music or really bad material then I have no use anymore for the artist. Or if it's clear they can't cut it live anymore, please go away.

[@antimarx265]

I absorbed the juggalo phase by osmosis... But now in my late 30s, it takes me back to my teens. Theres gotta be a german word for wanting a soul crushing nostalgia

[@SlasherInSuits]

I really liked the last blink album. And if they are reuniting do a new album. Not like System of a Down, or GNR. Etc

[@Gk2003m]

Yeah they should. One of my fave bands ever, Deep Purple, is touring this summer. I was offered a free ticket; I turned it down. Because while they still release new material, their live act remains based on Machine Head & MIJ. I saw them do that material back then, and today they just aren’t as able to cut it. But here (money aside) is why these bands continue on: Christine McVie. The late great songwriter-singer-keyboardist of Fleetwood Mac. She chose to retire from the band at one point. Decided she’d had enough of touring. As the author of some of their greatest work, she had waaaay more than enough money to live out her days in style. Yet…. Within a few years, she called the band and asked if they’d like her to come back (they said “of course!”). Reason? She got BORED puttering around her garden. Realized that the touring musician was not only what she did, but was who she was. So she got back out on the road with the band, and did that til she physically could not anymore. That’s virtually all these people. It’s not just what they do. It’s who they are. And they get to pay for the grandkids’ college funds in the process.

[@Wailmur]

I just saw deep purple ok August 5 and even though I'm not the biggest fan I thought they were great especially for being almost 80. The singer has kinda lost his voice though

[@raymondhernandez2935]

I saw Def Leppard and Scorpions headline a festival in 2018 or '17 i cant remember the exact year but goddamn they sounded amazing as hell and blew everyone away. Some legacy bands still do great, alot of them should hang it up.

[@luizakrolewska]

Those kind of bands don't retire, we'll just have to wait for them to die of old age. I was attending a swedish rock festival this week and they just won't give up on those bands. They had Alice Cooper as a headline, last year I think it was Deep Purple. But this year they also booked Electric Callboy and Parkway Drive and I saw a lot of 50-60 year olds having the best time listening to those. So the times are slowy changing for the better.

[@WeerdMunkee]

100% of eerything i listen to I absolutely ADORE because it's 100% by CHOICE!! I've always avoided Spotify and all other alogrythms, because I implicity trust my judgement! I'm 45 and gave up even listening to the radio when I was 14!! The best music out there is music yuu will NEVER hear on the Bilboards OR internet playlists...have a mind of your own and go down that rabbit hole!! I did, and my musical life is that much better for it!!

[@NeXaSLvL]

I saw Dio a few years before he passed and it was awesome, i think they should all keep going until they can't anymore

[@lowblood9416]

Could you, maybe in the future, show of your tattoos i find them pretty cool and the composition is pretty cool from afar, but can't make up what it's suppose to show.

[@takodabostwick8507]

If a band makes 15 albums, I will be impressed. The Rolling Stones, The Kinks, Motorhead, Judas Priest, Kiss, Depeche Mode ,Saxon, Overkill, Duran Duran, Megadeth, The Beach Boys, Iron Maiden, Bad Religion, NOFX, and Black Sabbath are great examples.

[@pensivepenguin3000]

But are they 15 great albums? I would say in almost every example you mentioned, the answer is definitely not. I love many of those bands, but only a portion of those total albums really represent their definitive work

[@Wailmur]

Korn

[@dishwaser]

Maybe hot take: this is why legacy DJs are better than legacy bands, they evolve with the technology (usually) and like you said how common is it for a band to stay together for 20 years, a DJ is one person... Carl Cox been goin strong for close to 40 years now

[@gx1tar1er]

Also Isn't David Guetta in his mid 50s as well? and still one of the biggest DJs in the world.

[@dishwaser]

@gx1tar1er Yes he is, and Benny benassi was one of the headliners of edc this year at 56

[@tysonwastaken]

lmao youre not a boomer for calling it twitter im a zoomer and i call it twitter, nobody calls it x

[@anything7850]

I bought the pop punk with breakdowns shirt specifically to wear to a ADTR show on Seattle a few years ago. Got several "nice shirt" comments

[@mk1st]

King Crimson are a legacy band (I guess). While they do still play their “hits” but also perform amazing new music. They are just fabulous.

[@wadekemmsies7180]

Taylor Swift is trying to be Lana Del Rey. That's the best way to explain it

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

Yes

[@loompy1440]

lol I was at an antique store in Reno a few weeks ago, and the old man who worked there (who seemed a few cards short of a deck/ wouldn’t stop talking to me) showed me an old ICP shirt he bought for 100 dollars from some random guy because it’s a “vintage”. 😬 are there people paying that much for ICP merch?

[@muenchhausenmusic]

The way you said Brioche when you wanted to say it wrong was actually damn close to correct 😂 Don't know who that self-proclaimed french person in the chat might be from...

[@DBPanterA7]

While I may personally disagree with the legacy band take, I feel an appropriate comparison is how Vince McMahon ran WWE for the better part of the last 20 years, relying on stars of yesterday to carry the big events/storylines. That meant a lot of wrestlers could not climb to the proverbial highest level. The same thing goes with rock/metal. How many groups under the age of 40 can sell out a North American arena tour? 15,000 people a night, 3-4 times a week? This was a common occurrence in the 90’s and aughts, but there hasn’t been that big rock/metal band that is younger, only released say 3-4 albums, that can do that today.

[@gx1tar1er]

That's the most accuratte comparison ever. rock/metal and wrestling are like a parallel each other.

[@gx1tar1er]

I wonder who's the Bring Me the Horizon of WWE wrestler. John Cena is more like MCR (US) or Arctic Monkeys (UK) and i'm talking more on fame and popularity comparison, not critics.

[@aaronlevario8653]

The problem is the fan base. It’s not the band. It’s not the promoters. It’s the fan base. Plain and simple! The fans do not have open mind to wanna go and listen to new bands that rock just as hard just may not have all the legacy and the gold albums and platinum albums and hit songs behind them. Doesn’t mean they’re not banded it just means that didn’t get the exposure or they didn’t sell their soul to the devil which nobody seem to talk about much more rock ‘n’ roll but I know it’s a thing. at the end of the day need to be more open minded because then Band will be able to scratch the Rich so to speak and be able to get noticed and heard and seen as much as the legacy band. It’s human culture and they’re not really open to new ideas and new things so the old stuff used to be years ago!! is that good or bad for me to decide, but it does eliminate newer music and artist being heard. Speaking of that go follow my band, striking 13 LA on Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok.

[@EllisJonesDeath]

They should get Finn on a GTA radio station that plays Pop-Punk and Nu-Metal and Hardcore. How cool wouldn't be to speed round the map and have Finn drop in between a song and drop some wisdom on ya

[@LongGone77]

There should be a mandatory cut-off age of how long a band plays before they ultimately get moved to a different kind of concert venue. Not necessarily the age of the band members themselves (you could be a fairly new band and have members spanning decades in age), but if the band themselves has been around for over 30 years, move them to cruise ships, resort festivals and legions. Or, i'll extend an olive branch: venues need to be required to drop the ticket price to under $50 if the band has been around $30 or older. A $300 ticket for a band past their prime is highway robbery.

[@isaacmontoya9636]

When you disowned the Chick File’ hater, telling him to block you, that killed me 😂

[@thesmilingvagrants]

Legacy bands are fine. What's weird is that there's no new bands. I'd love to be that. I DM'd Finn before Patreon and he liked it! If you check it out and tell me it sucks, I'd appreciate it!

[@chrislanemann9143]

I almost spit my drink out when you talked about Popeyes Spicy Chicken Sandwich. It depends on the location. I’ve had 1 that was complete garbage. Then I gave them a 2nd chance and went to a different location and it was great.

[@tysonwastaken]

did you not mention adtr because of people getting mad because they think they are metalcore for some reason

[@apoplexiamusic]

6:04 If you want to learn how to pronounce words in other languages, you can find it on KZbin! In French "brioche" is pronounced "bri-ush" so the i is like ee but short, and the ush is like hush, but no h in front of

[@GoTenDu]

What's breakdowns? I still don't get it.

[@ivanquintero2082]

I really like that you also went into music like taylor swift; you like MUSIC as long as it’s good not just heavy music. Very cool.

[@maxxalexanderr]

Oh Finn is doing let’s argue now. That’s sick

[@Rightchickenwing]

5:17 Hell yes to the Brioche bun! All burgers should have these buns. I had a plain burger bun at a restaurant and God it was so dry

[@ger5956]

That Fili fact is wild 😂

[@SconnerStudios]

You're right Finn. Every legacy band should retire, along with every newer artist. Only MGK's music should continue to be played. MGK bless MGK, he invented the guitar, music, and the first supercomputer.

[@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125]

This comment is not funny and was never funny to begin with.

[@FLtrailblazer]

Agreed some are still making awesome music but many just need to retire!

[@thebusinessgoose3350]

Is Four Year Strong easycore? They're fantastic.

[@staidenofanarchy]

Its gonna be interesting where rock goes in the 2020s. Its much more prominent than it was than the 2010s, but aside from legacy bands and a GOATed few like BMTH (who I would argue are still young and innovative enough to be considered relevant) Its gonna be really interesting to see if any of it can break through en masse and form a "scene" like it did in the 2000s.

[@southerntrendkill4889]

Well, Ghost and Falling In Reverse are stadium headlining bands now as well, Bad Omens are headlining Mayhem, and after Sleep Token's sold out large theater tour (and them signing with RCA recently) they'll be headlining stadiums and festivals really soon as well. Metal/rock is going to get popular again this decade I guarantee

[@staidenofanarchy]

@@southerntrendkill4889 Sleep Token and Bad Omens formed in 2016 and 2015 respectively, that's still a long time to be earning your stripes and being able to headline. All Time Low went from their first real release in 2005 to headlining 5k cap venues in a concert DVD in 2009.

[@buckoz3353]

I definitely think it would be a good idea to pave the way for new bands however, at the same time we can’t just blame everything on the legacy bands we have to understand that too many pathetic excuses for modern rock bands are refusing to try something new and I’m just sticking to that Cookie Monster vocal depressive bullshit that I’ve seen are good buddy Finn talk about it before. Takes two to tango. You said it yourself Finn. I do believe new bands could make it, but they have to try something else then talk about nothing but bad things. Or otherwise rehash the sound of the 70s. Originality and function over form is the key.

[@jeremywilliamsrc8797]

Love the whole take, agree with most, but I cannot stop laughing about the pop eyes chicken speech. Amazing dude, keep being you brother!

[@Szczauqa]

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