All New Legendary Lore | Is Lyssa Angered Over Balthazar's Death & So Much More

[@zenith110]

My dude, Trogdor is from Homestar Runner's Strongbad shorts

[@WoodenPotatoes]

DAMNIT. You see i'm not a real nerd Edit: I have consistently fucked this up over the years. It just won't go in.

[@itsJoshV]

Yeah look up Homestar Runner or Trogdor the burnanator WP. It's old internet lol

[@zenith110]

@@WoodenPotatoes XD If it had been Tiamat or Bahamut, then I would have been elated (Very much a D&D nerd)

[@ninja_sloth3906]

@@WoodenPotatoes The episode in question: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b2G7ZoGAocqMgLM

[@shogei]

@@WoodenPotatoes kzbin.info/www/bejne/b2G7ZoGAocqMgLM&ab_channel=homestarrunnerdotcom I find this hard to forget

[@otakuribo]

Being a bit of a nerd for esoteric and occult weirdness, I can maybe help with Ipos a bit (my favorite legendary btw!) Ipos is one of the 72 demons mentioned in _The Lesser Key of Solomon,_ a Renaissance-era occult manual. The chapter it's found in is named _Ars Goetia_ which is the name of the precursor! The "Mark of the Unnamed" refers to Ipos' summoning sigil, which is illustrated in _The Lesser Key,_ and "The True Name" references the belief that knowing a demon's name grants the power to command it. As for Ipos, he's said to be a prince over hoardes of lesser demons, one who hoardes secrets and can reveal hidden and forbidden knowledge. He's one of the more amiable demons in _The Lesser Key,_ he can be called at any time of night, but only in quiet places "where Men gather not." I'm other words, Ipos has social anxiety. Given the "real" Ipos' affinity for secrets and forbidden knowledge, I'm disappointed they didn't include any references to Abaddon or Kormir's Library. I like to imagine Ipos as a demon in the service of Abaddon; a demon sent out to gather knowledge to hoard in the fallen god's library; cast low after Kormir rose; and, as GW2 demons do, seeking to bargain with a mortal: knowledge for knowledge, and power for power, all the while biding his time until he can reclaim his dead master's library. I like to think it was Ipos that led all those Ataxes and Shades into Kormir's Library after she left. :)

[@navyt9862]

Thank you for sharing, enjoyed your comment a lot! Also, "In other words, Ipos has social anxiety" is a great line, I had a good laugh reading it xD

[@natte_tosti]

Was looking for a timestamp comment myself but didn't see one, sooo: Gen1 02:45 The Bifrost 03:20 Bolt 04:00 The Dreamer 04:37 The Flameseeker Prophecies 05:37 Frenzy 06:43 Frostfang 07:05 Howler 07:49 Incinerator 08:59 Juggernaut 10:04 Kudzu 10:24 Kraitkin 12:02 Kamohoali'i Kotaki 12:52 Meteorlogicus 13:42 The Minstrel 14:23 The Moot 14:38 The Predator 15:53 Quip 16:18 Rodgort 17:16 Sunrise 17:35 Twilight 18:09 Eternity Gen 2 20:06 Astralaria 21:50 The Binding of Ipos 22:39 Chuka and Champawat 23:23 Claw of the Khan-Ur 23:49 Eureka 25:13 Exordium 26:01 Flames of War 27:03 The HMS Divinity 28:36 HOPE 28:51 Nevermore 29:14 Pharus 30:12 Sharur 31:10 The Shining Blade 31:32 Shooshadoo 32:07 Verdarach 32:34 Xiuquatl Armor etc. 33:37 Perfected Envoy Helmet (Heavy pve) 33:58 Perfected Envoy Mask (Medium pve) 34:13 Perfected Envoy Cowl (Light pve) 34:53 Ad Infinitum 36:17 The Ascension 36:31 Warbringer 36:46 Aurora 37:07 Coalescence 37:27 Vision 39:12 Transcendence 39:48 Conflux 40:10 Datamined unreleased PvE amulet 40:28 Legendary Rune 42:25 More datamining

[@KVI3I]

Thx so much.... this is all i needed! Why is potato always over over extending an actually short content... in this case to 40 min wtf??

[@hexen2801]

Man, WP's girlfriend wishes he'd look at her the way he looks at Verderac.

[@miguelmolano6611]

Does he have a girlfriend? I was hoping he'd be gay :D

[@TheMTSilver]

He has a girlfriend and he's not gay. Your hopes = dashed.

[@klavakkhazga3996]

The spear is named like that after Kekai Kotaki, one of the main concept artists from the original game. I love his stuff, that's why I went for it as my legendary.

[@katmannsson]

They also did a lot of iconic GW2 art too

[@Sangria713]

I wonder how many references of him there are. I know there was a charr boss in the first game named after him too.

[@Colathan]

Perhaps the crew of the HMS Divinity willingly chained themselves to the ship as it sank as to deny Zhaitan the opportunity to exploit their corpses. I do really like your interpretation. It's my absolute favorite weapon of GW2.

[@Sam.Coppens]

I wish they added the legendary armory like the wardrobe tab in your hero panel. So i could have a nice overview of everything that is unlocked. Next to that the full legendary armory in the bank tab (like the wardrobe again) with an overview of all legendaries to unlock. The bank tab would be a nice place to put all the lore books of the unlocked legendaries, so we can see them again.

[@Methillo]

Well the gods didn't mind when we killed our lord and savior Abaddon in cold blood, but they get all whiny about us T-bagging Balthazar. If you ask me, Lyssa was all in on balthazar's plot... there is no way that she didn't know or "forgot" her mirror so let them come, i say; this Commander is waiting for them in expansion 4

[@paulogaspar8295]

Yeah it's implied multiple times that Balthazar and Lyssa had a romance going on. And Abaddon was fear by every other god since he had alot of secret knowledge that the other gods didn't had. Balthazar cursed the gods but I think they where still closer than with Abaddon.

[@trence5]

interesting...

[@ImJEllisAF]

As a Dark Souls fan, the lore is actually strong motivation to get legendaries and adds to my interest of certain ones.

[@jdawgerj5]

You know one thing I would really like to see as an EOD Legendary, especially if human gods are going to be a topic, is Magdaer. We had an entire story during Ascalonion Catacombs dungeon where Eir was trying to retrieve it, and then she died in HOT and we never heard about it again.

[@samgaleott8114]

The Kamohoali Kotaki its a reference to Kekai Kotaki, the Artist who made mostly of the concept arts of the vanilla gw2, he its just amazing, a great artist

[@zenith110]

Also, if we ever go to Xoteca I'll buy you a beer

[@KotMatroskin]

If you try Chuka tigers with the Tailor backpack (satchel wiith a quaggan embroidery on the side), on asura the tiger fits perfectly into the satchel, as if you're carrying them in it. So cute! On charr the tiger's butt clips through, and I am not sure about humans/sylvari.

[@ChampionAshley]

my first was the Juggernaut. hearing it came from a time before Lupi was SO HYPE when I read it on the wiki. I've always wanted to know more about the Giganticus Lupicus' and what they did on Tyria. I guess I had a relic of their age for over 2+ years and didn't know it. EDIT: OMG please make a mysteries video on the astral creatures! that would be awesome!

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Yeah Juggernaut is a great one to have had!

[@Matthias-pj6th]

The other day in your End of Dragons videos you were theorising where the plot could go after the last Elder Dragon is dealt with, and I think Vision's lore gives a pretty good idea where.

[@karolbienkowski616]

About Howler: maybe the "serpent" is Jormag. After all sons of svanir revered him as spirits of the Wild, right?

[@dyewars2234]

the tooth of jormag is also called "the Fang of the Serpent", and i believe there are multiple instances where norn referred jormag as "the serpent"

[@kylevanderwolf4446]

I think it may be their version of a reference to Fenrir and the world serpent

[@dyewars2234]

@@kylevanderwolf4446 possible but from the fact that they never connected bifrost to the jotun or to any Norse inspired aspect of the game, I doubt anet has Norse mythology in mind when they wrote these descriptions, or maybe the person behind is just super inconsistent xD

[@pixxally]

@@dyewars2234 the bifrost is technically connected to the jotun tho. When you do the collection for the precursor, you have to bring bloodstone dust to those jotun runestone thingies etc. (idk about the rest of the collections tho, as i've only done the first one so far)

[@dyewars2234]

@@pixxally i see, i never did the collection, thanks for the insight, a bit disappointing they decided to not explore more on that with the new description

[@AdrasAdraki]

Eternity reads like an unreliable narator that was born and lived during the days the Gods up and left and have idolized them to the extreme.

[@brspies]

Yeah I was just going to say... I'm not maybe fully up to date on the timelines and such of the gods, but isn't the "canon" that the gods just brought humans to a Tyria that had already existed and been inhabited by the other races for... millennia at least?

[@trevorcoates918]

@@brspies I was under the same assumption. Isn't that why they were unaware of the dragons? If they gods brought the humans to Tyria, then the land, cosmos, etc can still be seen as a gift from them.

[@paulogaspar8295]

@@brspies yes but the gods, when they came to Tyria, they kinda terraformed the world a little bit before humans where brought. The fogotten existed on Tyria before the humans and they where also created by the gods. And yeah the gods didn't knew the Dragons existed for a while.

[@Rejosc]

10:08 Lonicera is the genus for honeysuckle. Not sure what the connection with kudzu is, other than they are both in reference to plants.

[@EndaliasTreasures]

The Moot is a weapon Lord Faren, my ex-best friend who seriously ghosted me, would wield.

[@KotMatroskin]

I wonder if sylvari's dream and the fact they come from an elder dragon, and share part of its consciousness in some respect, helps them be more intelligent. Kind of like skritt.

[@paulogaspar8295]

Yeah Sylvari share experiences with each other, if not more intelligence that at least maked them more knowledgeble.

[@TristanTzara100]

"Nevermore" is also a reference to the Edgar Allan Poe poem "The Raven".

[@Maiirin]

I agree with the grumpy person about the astralaria lore. The collection through crafting it goes much more to jotun and norn lore, about runestones.. And yes I suppose the astralarium makes sense but back when that collection came out, PoF didn't exist and we didn't get to go to Istan.. But now they suddenly tie this weapon to sunspear lore?? When it used to be about jotun lore? It's not that it's not interesting to me it's just that the contradiction in what anet wants with this weapon frustrates me.. It makes me feel like they didn't even think twice about whether the collections for the precursors match enough with the final lore of the legendary itself.

[@JoshSweetvale]

10:20 Krait in GW1 had that 'one-time rapid adaptation' thing going on. Maybe that reservoir of potential could be used to shock a dead one back to life. That's exactly what Vorcha do in Mass Effect, with reseevoirs of stem cells.

[@Colathan]

Great video! I'd been looking forward to your coverage. Nice puns too, by the way. You had a bunch this episode.

[@regendo]

I love the description for Rodgort. "They whispered"--the flames? The flames whispered the dragon's name, that's so cool.

[@WhyAreUReadingMyName]

Excellent choice of music! It really enhances the feeling of distant higher-than-life mysteries

[@navyt9862]

First thing first, such a great video, thanks a lot! Second... I appreciate lore tidbits, but they wouldn't sway me one way or another. I'm a super casual veteran player, and all my 4 legendaries (3 weapons, 1 armor set) were crafted in leisure purely because of looks. I didn't care knowing about lore of my first legendary until I actually saw it here haha. It's tied up amazingly with my personal experience with GW2. I started playing GW2 in 2013 because I wanted to play necromancer (not many MMORPGs, heck, even regular RPGs have this profession). I also love everything space-themed, so going for Twilight was a given once I was familiar with the game and had the right mindset for crafting it (i.e. not grinding for hours anything on purpose, taking my time and generally not spending gold/mats on unneeded stuff). It was before HoT times, and I was kinda bummed that my main wouldn't be able to wield it, but decided to go for it anyway. Imagine my levels of joy when they announced the elite specs! And now, Grenth being my favorite of the Six, I learn that Twilight has a bit more connection to necromancers too! This is so good, I am very pleased :D

[@petrberanek9128]

For those who lack knowledge of HOPE: In first 3 collections, you research Hylek alechmy and Asuran technology and build the base of the weapon. Last collection is about crafting Alchemical Catalyst tube (the blue tubing of the gun, culmination of Hylek alchemy research), Transcendent Energy tube (red tubing of the gun, culmination of Asuran research) and Catalytic converter. Lore on the A Catalyst and T Energy says they violently explode, then mixed (Which probably powers the gun and why you should not drop it).

[@regendo]

I read a fun comment about Verdarach's lore on reddit. Something like "when Grenth's powers were raw and new, he accidentally made the horn 6 times the size he intended."

[@AndreJennrich]

Really cool what Anet does with lore and legendaries. So much fun to speculate! :)

[@SunitS]

I think the lore for Pharus is correct. Pharus came out on the same patch where they added Siren's Reef fractal. So the flavour text may indicate that scholars recovered it from the fractal after it was cleared.

[@deadpan5104]

I was under the impression that the human gods did NOT make the cosmos, They found tyria from somewhere else. Thats also why they left, to look for a world that the humans can inhabit without the threat of something like the elder dragons

[@187657]

As to the lore about the gods making the world, I am a firm believer that the human gods just SHAPED the world. That they had the ability to manipulate the limitless magic that existed and control it in ways that no other beings could.

[@paulogaspar8295]

Yeah I agree. They are beings from the mist, the center of the universe. We know they have powers to create their own dimensions. I think they changed Tyria in some way to accomodate themselves but they didn't create it since dragons already where in tyria.

[@UC1byaoShhwRwz5F1z4eriVQ]

HMS Divinity.. "they were all recovered" - by the Vigil, or by Zhaitan? :D

[@Lukos0036]

They need to bring back Banana Scythe as a legendary staff.

[@BartmossTV]

The Vision description is EXACTLY where I want Guild Wars to go.

[@brspies]

Not that I think it's necessarily something that would be "within the flameseeker prophecies" as written, but talk of that did bring me back to one of the few moments of One Path Ends' story that I really liked, Livia saying "you ready to fulfill a prophecy"? It was nice to see the moment, as shoehorned as that bit of the story felt to me, contextualized within the series' arc like that.

[@Morpheus2403]

back in the old days, I have created 3 legendaries. The first was Kraitkin. I've crafted it to sell it to be able to buy Dusk, which was otherwise unattainable for me. After that I could craft Twilight which I wield to these days. The last legendary weapon I crafted was Bifrost. It cost me all my riches hidden in the account bank. It cost me hundred of hours of grinding, and it was actually gift to my girlfriend. A few months later we broke up. 4 years have passed and still the thing I am most sorry about is that I gave a legendary weapon to some stupid girl with a fresh account who doesn't even play anymore. Not to mention I bought her the game plus expansion plus gems for 100 euro.

[@bushy9780]

Flameseeker prophecies is probably like the bible, were still waiting for revelations end times.

[@Shark_Cowboy]

Y'know, it always struck me oddly that Aurora and Coalescence's icons match one of the combined forms for the PvE trinkets but Vision is... something else. Was that a hint towards a fourth trinket all this time? Why would they use such dramatically colourful art for Vision and not have it implemented in-game like the other two? Though it's also weird how Aurora's icon is that of when you have two trinkets equipped, it was the first one we had and for quite a long period of time! You could argue it's supposed to be the single trinket form with the four yellow moon-like orbs but the radiating purple energy from the orbs on the icon is far closer to the second form to me. For Exordium's description, it sounds almost like an alien species to me. A good analogue in other media might be Deoxys from Pokemon. An unknown alien being that can change its form to match any situation it is dealing with. And I know this is not really a pressing story that even I care to know all of the details about but I found Kudzu's entry something of note because this sylvari was sacrificing her life to protect the Pale Tree! From who or from what? Was it something directly attacking the Pale Tree or is that just fluff about Lonicera dying in the name of the Pale Tree? It's also interesting that they are a Secondborn, meaning it's very recent and likely not directly tied to when the Sylvari first interacted with what would be a new type of living being/race to them.

[@michaelmajor1549]

We have all been talking about an elite spec for that Mesmer silhouette, but it could also be Lyssa.

[@world.singer]

I desperately hope we don't get Lyssa as a villain. We just did that with Balthazar, Abbadon, Dhuum, sort of... I don't want to repeat the same story over and over. Sure, maybe Lyssa is pissed and might not be exactly friendly to us, but I hope they're not setting up some kind of "Lyssa's Revenge" plot. How banal. I would certainly expect her to be complicated, but I don't want it to come down to "oh well, now it's time to kill Lyssa!"

[@pureevil8091]

imagine killing a mesmer goddess. she'd portal u back to the human realm ✋🏽😭

[@world.singer]

@@pureevil8091 if we fight Lyssa we deserve worse 😂

[@karolbienkowski616]

Having her as a villian doesnt need to be "banal". She can have her motives and so on.

[@DaFunkz]

These are really cool. It makes me really wish legendaries had more of an epic flavourful quest or story involved in their acquisition to make them actually feel legendary to acquire, with gameplay to match of course. I do hope we get an Armory UI so that we can read these bits of lore anytime. I love when items feel like interesting parts of the game world. Also, it’s kind of amusing that both daggers are charr related.

[@arrd]

I have such a fond memory of crafting Chuka and Champawat. What an epic journey! One of the most memorable gaming moments of my life. I don't care how long it takes for them to make, i just so dearly wish Arenanet would have every legendary have that same sort of journey as the Chuka, HOPE, Astralaria, and that raven staff I can't remember the name of.

[@asgarzigel]

Do we know for sure where in Tyria Siren's Reef is? I have seen the theory that Siren't Reef is Siren's Landing before Orr rose again and I really like that idea. Not sure if it fit though.

[@coreydixon3041]

As a follow on from the lore from this video, I'd love to have a series explaining the lore and story of gw, its so interesting

[@trevorcoates918]

For Kraitkin, "Living once again" doesn't have to mean a krait was brought back to life the way it was before. Maybe they were turned onto the living eels on the trident, or they were reborn into their larval form, perhaps looking like the eels on the legendary. Many descriptions are left so Intentionally vague that you can come up with a variety of stories and explainarions around them

[@gewreid5946]

There is that whole thing with the shapeshifting Krait from EotN as well... I look forward to more krait lore, they could be so badass.

[@trevorcoates918]

@@gewreid5946 I haven't heard of this, could you point me in the direction to learn more? Is it in gw1? Keep in mind that Scarlet only tranformed krait and not the other races of the alliance. There's definitely sometning special about them

[@gewreid5946]

@@trevorcoates918 wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Krait Yes, it's in GW1. There were different classes (with different looks) of krait and they could use the skill Metamorphosis to shift between classes mid-combat.

[@Boscolovesmoney]

As weird as it is to say, but the lore bits make me want them more.

[@paulogaspar8295]

the thing that made me really want to do a shining blade was the fact that it was related to the Seers. The race I want to know more about in the story.

[@kylevanderwolf4446]

The Bifrost collection does elaborate a bit so we know lore wise that our Bifrost is technically incomplete but that the original was used as some sort of weapon by the Jotun. Wish they’d have touched on that.

[@JoshSweetvale]

Logistics is the greatest weapon of war. Point-to-point long-range teleports would be devastating.

[@aapieaapie]

Thank you for your videos! Been playing gw2 on and off over the last 7 years, but always try to keep in touch with your videos. Your videos always get me excited to play again! Regarding EoD, it's probably really superficial but besides the story and new places, I'm also really looking forward to new hairstyles and faces etc. (Separate point; If gw2 wants to make money, new hairstyles on the gemstore seems like such an easy way btw, but unfortunately they mostly add a lot of new dye options). Do you think we will only get the, in the West unreleased hairstyles etc that they used for the China release? I'm really hoping there will be some more!

[@barva1120]

cool, I remember asking for this a few years ago :) happy to listen to legendarily lore. Thanks!

[@FpsShan]

Nice to see WP excited about Lore !

[@cnam73]

pretty sad that xiuquatl doesn't have lore related to xotecha tbh it would be interesting if they eventually went back and added more lore to the crafting of the legendaries that don't have the type of lore chuka and champawat, and those few legendaries, have

[@MY_Forge]

In the lore of The Binding of Ipos it states "Any warrior brave enough ..." Who thinks Warrior is getting focus in EoD?

[@karolbienkowski616]

Who knows xd

[@rumposc2408]

I'm pretty sure Ad Infinitum is referencing the unreleased Fall of Abaddon fractal. A Mist Fragment of a floating island from the Crystal Sea(homeland of the forgotten?) or maybe the lands that are now the Desolation. The "someone" might be Abaddon himself, maybe Jadoth or one of the other margonites.

[@NuchiAsaki]

I think Incinerator is more of a welding torch than a lighter. It was my first legendary as well. I used to play almost nothing but dagger/focus elementalist in the pre-HoT days so it was the obvious choice. Now that I main revenant, I'm hoping for a dagger elite spec so I can use it again. I was split on whether I want to make The Moot or Eureka next but the lore has settled it. I'm getting Eureka. It just seems too perfect for my Asura revenant who joined the Durmand Priory.

[@joshuatran1556]

I'm curious how Zomoros fits into these lores, it was said that he crafted the originals, then had the skritt make copies to hand out to adventurers. During Qadim 1 he is shown weilding the Bifrost, Shining Blade, Eternity, and Sunrise. His abandoned Lair in Vabbi also contains copies of all the legendaries. It is after all the Mystic Forge that must be used to craft them, not any other source

[@flyrow3712]

This 1 was fun to watch. Love the lore! Thank you!

[@jaredjensen1418]

So yeah, Astralaria's collection has a big emphasis on Jotun runestones in one section, with other major locations showing up in Orr and ancient dwarven spots. That said, I don't think the lore snippet ruins that-- the scholar in Istan could have very well gone through the same "collection" to research and craft the original and we are just retracing her steps.

[@MoreImbaThanYou]

Honestly, the stuff about the Deep Sea and the Krait give me anxiety like Subnautica did. Ocean is scary.

[@Rejosc]

40:10 think that might just be the PvP light armor text and last part (42:26) goes heavy WvW, medium WvW, heavy PvP, light WvW, medium PvP.

[@labdG]

This reminded me that alot of the ascened accessories have tiny bits of lore. It's not much but enough to make them feel special to me. Like how my main has Sieran's diary in memory of her. Or my human of Canthan herritage that has a kurzick artifact. I hardly ever bother to craft ascended gear so legendaries is not something for me, so I enjoy cool gear lore where I can take it. x)

[@Brickbroslegosrule]

I always assumed when they said “the gods made Tyria” they meant that the fixed Tyria. I thought they’d arrived at the planet which had recently been ravaged by-now-sleeping Elder Dragons, and they made it more habitable before bringing in humanity.

[@paulogaspar8295]

Yep that's what the Lore says. The fogotten where the first known race to me brought by the gods to tyria and after them the Humans. But for example Jotun would probably already exist in Tyria before the gods even came to Tyria.

[@mittensfastpaw]

Fixed? Psh, stole it from the other races.

[@Brickbroslegosrule]

@@mittensfastpaw naw by fixed I mean they restored the land back to a mostly habitable state because the Elder Dragons had recently ravaged the planet

[@DCrswims]

The lore bits are cool and leave me wanting more, wishing we had something like destiny’s lore for legendaries, maybe even future ascended gear and exotics. Just anything to flesh out the world and give us more info to chew on. Works wonders for destiny lore enthusiasts.

[@Techstriker1]

I confirmed the name on the wiki, Sea of Sorrows had "The maw", which was a large champion, but I don't recall what it was described as, only that they blew it up with a ship.

[@Sealreth]

Your popping off! thanks for all the content!

[@YashodharAithal]

It would be awesome if the devs made all these Characters an intractable NPCs and get to know even more about the Legendaries.

[@Nico-lw5ol]

I couldnt agree more about Anet needing to implement more lore stuff, I think this makes the story in general seem more realevant

[@KotMatroskin]

Weren't Sieran and us a rogue Durmand Priory research team ;) :D

[@felixmorton4472]

Look up "Trogdor the burninator", its an old Strongbad video which is what they are referencing with Rodgort.

[@andystray4554]

Wp wish you showed off the weapons, I know they're on the wiki, but even just looking at them while you describe the lore would help visualise their design

[@gahvno]

Astralaria was actually my very first legendary... Since then I've made five more, but because I started with this one the others have seemed not necessarily easier... But certainly less insane. Until Chupa & Champuwat, of course.

[@MelonRoulette]

I just crafted Blathazar's cake aka flames of war recently because I really want legendary torch and I don't like Rodgort at all. I have to say that it's better than I thought it would be, especially the effect when you draw out the weapon.

[@Aztec2250]

I always thought Rodgort stemmed from Trogdor the Burninator? From HomeStarRunner. That’s where I knew the name from

[@ChristinaStarlight]

I agree we need more lore in GW2. I would love a few traditional style quests ^^.

[@Foghorn8]

Is Transcendence a reference to Colin in the manifesto video? "Hey I swung a sword, I swung a sword again, I swung it again, that's great".?

[@orrthehunter]

I say Razah's return into GW2 maybe interesting because despite being a Data of GW1, it may have evolved beyond that over the hundred of years he has been alive. Razah is a clean slate in GW1 because it is just learning about everything including emotions, right, wrong, ideas, and etc. In GW2, Razah personality and appearance may end up being far different than its GW1 self because as mentioned in Exordium lore (being a lesser being of what Razah is), he can be anything or nothing based on what it is interested in being

[@beneteus3833]

On the Lyssa stuff - who is the Mist stranger that lead us to the Marionette again? we know lyssa likes to disguise herself, could it be her?

[@lucasfarinhabosio6306]

Maybe the one from the Vision lore is Kormir? She probably knows the other gods enough to guess that they would be pissed at us killing Balthazar and that Lyssa was close to him.

[@Archemorus1]

I have an idea about the datamined information about the new trinket, if it's an old story remember the norn fighting tournament from the original guild wars? Gwen was a mesmer and one of the contestants. Just an idea...

[@thelyssamysterygw2439]

I believe that Kormir is quoted in the Vision flavour text.

[@fenikslied]

I think I did some research on IPOS and I think some of the art matches a real-life Grimoire. It's actually a reference to real life occult stuff. Whether you believe in it is up to you.

[@trence5]

all those others flew over my - except @37:39. WAIT, you mean the other gods don't know "we" ganked Balthazaar? Uh-Oh!

[@piercewhitley964]

I think the first armor you read as pvp is actually the light wvw armor, and the last wvw armor you read is the heavy pvp armor.

[@Kevlord22]

Personally, i wish i could get legendary armor, other then raids. I mean, since i don't do raids, i kinda feel left out tbh. I know i could just do it, but its pretty high order for me. I wish i could easily play around stats too.

[@world.singer]

You can get it through pvp and wvw as well.

[@mittensfastpaw]

Agreed, pvp is gated more as well than it should be due to tickets.

[@relentlessnights4211]

Your remarkable, thanks dude!

[@Slay5and5ing5]

Vision has to be quoting Kormir. As the last of the human gods to leave and the goddess of truth and knowledge, she is inevitably going to learn of Balthazar's faqte, and fits nicely with their concern with the other gods.

[@KotMatroskin]

Well krait are actually the overlords of the universe. Elder dragons are their babies, and the krait we fight close to the surface are lesser krait who have been banished because they didn't pay their income tax. Also, I know the screenshot they shared is probably Shing Jea like everyone says, but what if it is the Dominion of winds that's about to open its gates to us? Would be so exciting ^^

[@nolangrimes619]

Howler idea : What if the story of the Great Wolf and the Serpent have something to do with Braham having the Spirits a part of him now? Long term thing but perhaps alluded too no matter Sunrise/Twilight: I think this might also be one of the first major mentions of the moon? Which moon and how does this play out / impact if the moon has an impact on a god if Dwayna (his mother) might be revered as the sun herself? Is his father (a subject never spoken of / Dhuum?) is the moon? Verdarach: Grenth mentioned again - - Were there other gods in the legendries that had multiple mentions? Xiuquatl : Focusing on the 'hope' piece with this idea - could this be the same Serpent that Wolf denied?

[@devinbelver7124]

Dwayna had 2 mentions. Pharus and sunrise. And Balthazar had 2 with flames of war and vision. I just think the Devs were lazy and gave dark legendries to grenth.

[@aautumn733]

Grenth's father is Malchor actually. You can check the wiki yourself. It's been a known fact for a very long time among vet GW2 players.

[@vipero07]

Trogdor isn't DnD its homestar runner... early internet stuff.

[@Sffaux]

Maybe a bit out there, but when you read the Frenzy lore, my mind immediately jumped to the World of Warcraft illustrated cinematics "Warbringers" - specifically Azshara's one [kzbin.info/www/bejne/np_HqoevaNqckK8]. She's Queen of the Naga, and is affiliated with the deeps and the sea. "Magnificent" is something she's kinda known for, especially in that cinematic. She says it at 4:00 and 6:54. So, my thinking is, maybe this is a reference to that :D

[@Amit-yr5sc]

@WP, fun fact, Surya is the name for the embodiment of the sun in Hindu mythology

[@Unstopapple]

Ipos is an example of IRL lore seeping into the game. It's an actual demon myth.

[@johngaver1104]

It would be cool if they added snippets of this as item flavor text

[@basinox]

Meteorlogicus's lore is weird as its design suggests a Ascalonian design with the text on its bottom

[@Aztec2250]

I always thought it had a better fit with the humans DR and the whole central astralarium

[@relentlessnights4211]

Please any espec lore, possibilities or any talk is a win :)

[@flameoffaith9820]

The legendary bolt was in the game from day one so it could be that the dragon yet to come simply is Aurene.

[@SheenaMalfoy]

Aurene isn't a serpentine dragon though, like the ones depicted on Bolt are.

[@flameoffaith9820]

@@SheenaMalfoy Good point gives me hope for something exciting :-)

[@edb0tt]

I think the kraitkin quote is from a largos dynamic event in mount maelstrom?

[@katanikoneko9036]

This update made me think of new legendaries I want to make! I'm not sure which one I want to make because I'm not sure if I want to wait for the 3rd generation or not. Going to make the amulet though! (Kraitkin cause they might not add more underwater ones?)

[@_Banjo_]

Howlers lore and the stuff about the spirits of the wild makes me think they could tie in the Cantha with similarities to our real world Chinese Zodiac.

[@clarissamarsfiels7961]

Could you please, for the love of god, put all your comments into one comment? It's really annoying to see you post 4-5 comments under each video, most of them only containing just one sentence ... for real now! You're not just doing this on WPs Videos but also on other peoples videos. ANNOYING!

[@_Banjo_]

Thank you for letting me know. There is nothing inherently wrong with multiple comments but i guess it does seem worse at the early stages of a video where few people have commented. I do see multiple people do this on other videos too, though i guess im the most obvious offender. I guess it also depends on the format of the video, some of these are verrrry long and span multiple topics. Sometimes its more appropriate to me to have separate subjects as different comments. (granted a lot of mine are just random quips that may or may not be funny, or bits of trivia). Some people have engaged in discussion points in the comments or outside in other platforms off the back. Some have actually said the opposite to you and enjoy my insight. As for other youtubers, not sure who youre thinking of but possibly inks (who actually mentions in his reaction videos he does the same as me / said "spam away" to me directly when i noticed). Maybe Xand? Im offering my perspective as a 'veteran' player to the new player comments. I know theres now an irony behind my response... but ill try to hold back in future

[@_Banjo_]

Ah youre the person on Xandrii's video who said i was making baseless claims about the Dreamyabaddon video (which i wasn't).... Glad you're not holding a grudge. You could have just asked instead of your rude comment