All NT Temperament Types (INTJ, INTP, ENTP & ENTJ) w/ Nichola, Nii Codjoe, Spacey & Sebastian

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[@Ph.C]

I truly envy the inner clarity of the INTJ. I think every INTP secretly desires to be able to look at their world model and just say "Meh! Good enough", and run with it to pursue long-term goals. But we simply can't take a single step forward until the "puzzle is completed". To us, "goals" are the ultimate distraction, ironically.

[@TinyBudha]

That's alright because at least you can Solve everything then us XNXJ's gonna go act upon it. I think Se and action orientation in general is so heavily valued in our society. But if you have someone who can provide direction to others or an Organisation, based on logical systems then that's very valuable. Just gotta find the right person you can share the idea's with.

[@jankyyard5610]

xNTP and xNTJ symbiosis: xNTP provides choices in a multiple choice question that xNTJ will answer. Or xNTJ provides one important thing (idea, problem, stuff, etc) then the xNTP will poke things around it until a fresh perspective or unique solution is finally synthesized with the thing. Scenario: xNTJ has a goal -> xNTP gives a plan -> xNTJ is silent -> xNTP gives more plans -> xNTJ points out one interesting idea -> xNTP refutes, defends, or synthesize it with another idea called idea-branching -> xNTJ points another interesting idea -> xNTP doing idea-branching again -> Then, xNTJ finally makes a decision.

[@sudiprizal]

i like how both NTJs have Ni on their names..

[@LazerPotatoe]

as an INTP, I find that Ni sounds magical. A process that doesn't need logic, like quantum mechanics or something.

[@tnic3255]

Ne dom here and I agree! It's funny that we share the N, yet find Ni so mysterious in many ways!

[@snudgegalbraith3447]

Its a scope.

[@kairostimeYT]

I normally don't nitpick but I dislike your argument is conceptually wrong. Quantum Mechanics is completely logical. There is almost nothing macroscopically we can NOT know with quantum mechanics, provided we have time to solve the messy equations. However, what you should have said is that the structure of universe itself may not be logical to be represented by some math symbols or simulations elegantly in an accurate way. This is the problem with high level physics. Almost all physicists have a lot of ideas they simply THINK is the best way to model universe but it need not really. Sorry if I am sounding harsh but hope I corrected your knowledge. :) PS: I am no physicist either and so I don't know if I am accurate about the details but then, I think that this is the current state of physics.

[@LazerPotatoe]

@@kairostimeYT you are technically correct -- Quantum Mechanics does have logic, but it seems to have its own style: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_logic I still like my analogy :)

[@kairostimeYT]

@@LazerPotatoe -I swear though, it would have taken me months to find out that such a thing even exists.- My argument is different though. Yes, such a thing called "quantum logic" can exist but it's just a proper noun; just a name. But then, *everything* physical can be described by mathematics. Mathematics derives from first principles and everything in mathematics is proven rigorously, provided some axioms. Hence, everything is logical. Just hear my idea out: Mathematics is basically the tool shed and physics (heck everything) uses tools math provides. Universe isn't inherently logical but we like having an order or a structure so that things are understandable. As long as some information about a system exists, you can interpolate or extrapolate insights out of the system. That's how everyone thinks and comes to a conclusion, no matter how ingenious or ridiculous it is. It's just that people use right/wrong tools to interpret a situation for approaching a conclusion. It all comes down to making sense of the pure data (Si) or polished data (Ni) you are presented with. Actually this is also why in a lot of IT companies or game development companies, finding the best algorithm and understanding the problem/mechanics well is far tougher than writing the code itself because the code basically takes the role of math. You find INTJs intriguing probably because they understand the mechanics way too quickly than most other people. Again, I don't have anything against your analogy. In fact, it's correct but quantum mechanics requires logic to process. So based on how you seem to define logic, I guess, this should help you get my point. :D

[@michaelmccollum2774]

Ni = Purpose Ne = Possibilities

[@GabrielDoesThings]

I think purpose is more of an Si trait. I'd say Ni = Ideal future/possibility Ne = Potential futures/possiblity

[@syedmazharhasan6803]

Very well put

[@thoarnejones6805]

Ni=the universe Ne=the multiverse 😂😂

[@arcadianfox8127]

As an EINTPJ, thanks for this video!

[@mmashortz1689]

Intp:starts with I don’t know then starts saying stuff that no one knows

[@kimmi9697]

there's a closeness i feel with all the nt types. as an intj, i find a fascination and endearing quality to the ntp types like i'm enamored with them. entj is like the voice inside myself if that makes sense

[@Slippernips]

We love you too ❤

[@mariaschrock7767]

Agreed.I am INTJ and so far this was the most interesting one I have watched...NTP's are my favorite people to interract with.

[@user-mm2tw1zr7p]

Congrats on the new job Spacey! 🔌⚡️⚡️💡

[@Slippernips]

Oh by the way I'm once again offering typing sessions if anyone is interested. Please disregard what I said at the beginning of this video, as my life circumstances continue to change!

[@bradyconlon9569]

Hi 🙋‍♂️ I’m interested. What is the best way to contact you?

[@artisanrox]

I need more ENTJs in my life because of their corralling unknowns into opportunities rather than something frightening or self serving. ♡

[@haze3722]

This was so refreshing! Add to what Nichola said, yes planning is fun and it's very fun when things go as you planned or when stuff happen exactly as you predicted. So an INTJ, I've thought how many more years I have to live (I'm still 17 btw) and I've built my plan prioritizing where I see myself at the end of my life. It's because the uncertainty of life kinda scares me. I wish I can be little more relaxed and enjoy the present moment but I look at my life as a responsibility so I have to do my best and be the best person I can be.

[@sirbradfordofhousejones]

As an esfp, I love NT types! You are all so vastly different from me, yet I love the way we vibe in person. Excited to watch this video

[@anonymousnameless1835]

My brother is an ESFP and no one can gets close to match my energy like him- ENTP

[@aishaadam7473]

I think I can be around esfp when the situation is fun and light but we can’t work together or have deep interaction - intp talking from my experience

[@syedmazharhasan6803]

Oh damn. This will be fun to watch 😄

[@Youshouldchill]

Organizing/ refining my thoughts and my hypotheses here haha - Plan I think everybody plans, but for Te is more like, "yes I want to see the result hence I plan" and the Ni in NTJ makes the planning more long term. Moreover, the Se in NTJ also makes them more flexible when it comes to fine turning their plans in order to reach the long term goals. Contrary to NTJ, NTP is not that into planing because Ne-Si + Ti-Fe no Te nor Ni. Gosh I feel like NTP + E 9w8 would be the most "I just exist and no need to plan" types ever hahahaha like here to explore thoughts and have logical systems refine so like Spacey said, they can just autopilot (this is kinda 9 quality too) and live one day at a time. (Side note: I think NFP and NFJ may like planing more than NTP because we either have Te or Ni, we just plan for different reasons and carry out plans differently. NJ more likely to follow through) - Vision vs. dream First I feel the need to define them before adding the functions into the consideration. I guess they are different in the sense of vision will be something you want to create plans to manifest and dream is something you want in the future, you may work toward it yet how to get it is not as forceful or concrete as planing. So for NTJ in my option will be the most vision focus types. That Ni+Te. Impressive. I hope I have Ni lol - What if I think the reason of why NTJ use "what if"to refer inwardly and NTP refer outwardly is the Fi Ti difference? Hmmm. I think it depends on the context though and what function is used to "what if". I think this generally apply to every functions like if we use "what if" in the sense of Te, then this will like Nii's point, he uses "what if" the see if there's the better way to do things. Ne "What if" to entertain all the different weird/ useless/ endless thoughts lol. Se "what if" sensing experience and facts. Mixing things together, creating different sensing activities, etc. Fe "what if" contemplating social situation to prevent chaos and potential disharmony? or using it to find the common ground. Ti "what if" to refine their system. Fi "what if" to sharpen their values and identity??? For me, is like using what if questions to further understand myself. Si "what if" ... does si do what if? maybe what if i did that, maybe it would be different now? so try to ponder the internal sensing experience and see how it could be different. Ni "what if" okay I am really not sure about this one.... I guess, "what if I miss some details or facts to conclude it too soon?" kinda connect to se? I find introverted functions are harder to describe when it comes to "what if". They always so hard to describe, darn it. These three topics really helped me understand the difference of Ni-Se vs Ne-Si and Ti-Fe vs Te-Fi or at least my own guesses of how they manifest and why lol Thanks for the awesome talk as always! Another essay for the day. Can I get an A please 🥺

[@Slippernips]

I mean yeah i'm a 9w1 who wasn't sure if i was 9w8 or 9w1 for a while, so I definitely agree as far as having no desire to plan and feeling like I have no need to do so,

[@Youshouldchill]

@@Slippernips hi spacey!!! I’m 9w8 and yes it’s hard to tell between 9w1 and 9w8 sometimes and some people think we all have both wings. But I think there’s a tendency to lean towards one over the other. I guess 9w8 is more laidback and not want to plan than 9w1 is because 8s more focuses on autonomy and is aggressive vs. 1s is compliant and focuses on morals and integrity. So how laidback the 1s are depends on what they believe I guess lol. And 8s tend to be more laidback when they reach their ideal of autonomy? But now when I think about it more, I do have both, but I don’t tend to force my moral ideas on people or expect people to be certain way since they are their own individuals (fi & 8 plays together, and the 9 in me wants more perspectives and build bridges) however, integrity is something extremely important to me. (Fi & 1?) Let’s just say every words coming out of my mouth is fi related 😆 because they are 😆 exception -> when I’m Ne-Te playing

[@Youshouldchill]

Push my thoughts even further. Since Ti more focuses on logical consistency, the Ti users E1s’ integrity will more likely to be in the thinking realm instead of actually doing something. Especially Ti higher up. It’s beautiful combination though in my opinion! Because what you guys discovered will be truly valuable and have pure logical backup hence useful and sustainable. It is something that I admire!

[@Slippernips]

@@Youshouldchill I think one consistent difference between 9w1 and 9w8 that helped me decide is that the 1 wing tends to make you more self-critical when failing to meet certain idealistic standards of truth or justice, etc, whereas the 8 wing is more "laid back" in every way, not caring as much about being judged and not judging themselves very often.

[@syedmazharhasan6803]

Nichola!!! How good to have her here!!! Absolutely love her channel 😍 45:39 I laughed out so loud, I spilled soup all over me. That is 100% my response too.

[@grumpyschnauzer]

Yes! Thank you Joyce for pointing out “what if’s” are tied to goals and planning... and for that purpose we are highly intentional and purposeful in executing action following planning. Life is too short to generate ideas just for fun sake... and I am always fearing running out of time.

[@light5634]

Oh, my God! I've watched 2/3s of the video and I can't believe just how much a relate to Spacey's create-a-system-that-fits-all-cases-automatize-it-and-let-your-brain-rest-for-the-rest-of-your-life system and I'm an INFJ!!! I'm so thankful for that panel!!! I've learned some things and reconfirmed others. This conversation is soooo jam-packed with meaning that I've got light bulbs exploding inside my head while I'm listening! Fascinating! Thank you, amazing people

[@andysmiles1213]

This is sooooo interesting! Thank you! I'm an entp and interact mostly with intp, entj and intj

[@sirbradfordofhousejones]

Fascinating panel- I see eye to eye with almost all of what Nii is saying throughout the video. Perhaps my Se-Te and his Te-Se vibe well? His Ni/Te “what-if approach” is how I use it, too.

[@ashleyadette4874]

although im definitely out of place here (enfp), surprisingly this has got to be one of my personal favourite spaces youve held from the temperament series. it was very interesting to watch!! personally i really love and appreciate NTs, perfectly balances out my quirks of an enfp the Ne trolling part by INTPs and ENFPs part was hilarious as it is something i definitely can relate to as an Ne dom, catching people off guard and on their toes with unpredictable moves is so entertaining hehe (but of course to certain extent not in an unethical way) lovely video joyce!!

[@JoyceMeng22]

Thanks, Ashley!! Ne & Se are very quick on their feet and always keep things interesting, which is something I appreciate about them. :) Glad you related!! NTs are awesome indeed.

[@nishatronak2767]

Autopilot thing was spot on, sometimes I think too that I get overwhelmed..... Good to be an INTP

[@DoNColey456]

I got some really good perspectives each unique with it's own LOGIC. Smart people.. intj here learning how to speed my decision making and strengthen Se. Hearing alternative perspectives from types that are strong where I may be weak

[@jankyyard5610]

From what I've learned, it's more productive if you partner up (or at least emulate) with your perfect match type: ENTJ for INTP and ENTP for INTJ. This is basically due to how we are forced to grow through some sort of symbiosis with our shadow types. It's like a Jedi and a Sith finding common ground with one another; trying to live and learn from each other, while not losing thr identity and basis in life (from NT types we called it rationality and logic). So yes, you are definitely right. Hearing alternative perspectives from other types can help us develop as a person. It's just that there are some things that we can't give up easily so the "perfect match" type solves that for us.

[@cowfromtown]

I'm an INFP 7w6 and I "what if" the future so that I can come up with loose future backup plans just in case. I do "what if" the past but rarely externalize it because when I see other people do it my response is always "why would you dwell on that--- out loud?" I will, however, what if the past in order to provide/acknowledge a lesson without actually having to go through it. For example, if I am driving and notice that I was inches away from doing something dangerous, I will acknowledge the repercussions if I had reacted differently. It's like putting a sticky note in a book so that I remember to be more aware of the note later. I also will find myself thinking of how the grand scheme of things would be different based on one choice. What iffing the past isn't necessarily fun, but I guess I use it as a safe way to find lessons/contentment in the little things.

[@ihsankamil6279]

THIS IS AMAZING

[@DoNColey456]

36:49 was beautiful for me to hear as an intj. Great perspective

[@deb.e.9787]

So true what Sebastian said, NTP it’s scary to lose all your options/possibilities. Who knows when I’ll need it 😂

[@greenlimabean]

I dont think it's fear based not wanting to lose all our options, but rather impractical. Things change, we change, vibration changes and we will go with it. So we need all the options

[@user-lu4fn9pe4y]

Nichola!

[@ragnos3508]

The best video !

[@bradyconlon9569]

Wow! I learned so much just observing! Reading and listening descriptions is ok. But I feel like my understanding went up ten fold. I love being an INTP, but feel like I have strived my whole life to be an ENTJ or INTJ. To follow a path or goal without second guessing that path the entire time. I work so well with XNTJs and and they seem to enjoy working for me too. You really feel special when they deemed you worthy and trust you to help on their path.

[@TinyBudha]

I think that's Ni Critic at play. Being Self critical in regards to your own future or goals. "Thinkers" are very valuable to guide others. Action without direction can be rather wasteful. Not everyone need's to be like SE proactive.

[@tigerheaddude]

31:40 that's very true. Happens a lot with me even in video games. I need to find the strategy that'll work in all situations.

[@tigerheaddude]

32:50 same here. This is extremely specific but also extremely relatable.

[@ChromaticTempest]

Personally (INTJ), my joy comes from inception to completion. I love having the idea, solving the problems, identifying resources, and ultimately seeing the thing through. I too love chess and it encompasses that process fully. I don't know if planning is explicitly what I enjoy, but I do enjoy tacking the pieces together that I had to find thoughtfully for a plan. If it's mundane, I'm a little bored with it (thus I don't think planning itself is what I'm about exactly). My favorite is dealing in abstracts and finding roots or concrete fundamentals that work together in surprising ways. Personally, I need a blend of thought and tactile elements with a thread of theme to really feel sated by an experience. Like, working on a circuit board from a diagram wouldn't do it, unless the circuit board was part of a larger machine that then produced the answer to life (which, of course, is 42). I got to hit the Ni and Te to be happy, and to be fulfilled, the Se too.

[@i3ignorantidelweb43]

3 things to say 1. As INTJ I feel exactly like you, I wouldn't express it so good 2. If you want we can do a chess game online because I love them too but don't go too hard on me because I'm a half way of an intermediate and I'm still training daily on them (My objective is to beat difficult mode) 3. I love the quote 42 haha

[@mememo3764]

This was great. Do one for NF's!!!

[@JoyceMeng22]

Will do! 🙂

[@kevrokka.d.9749]

NTs - my favortites!

[@elizabethwright1264]

INTJ here.. competence is the foundation my confidence & conviction is built on. I don’t gain confidence any other way…. Only through competence by over preparing/ researching thoroughly.

[@imetal16ddin1]

Not sure how it would work, but it would be cool to get a group of one of each personality type- give them a problem to solve and see what happens.

[@imetal16ddin1]

Maybe put them all in an escape room

[@JoyceMeng22]

One day when I figure out a scenario or case study, I will make that a reality!

[@samuelunias673]

@@JoyceMeng22 To make it feasible it's important to address some key points: (1) the problem must be simple to solve, (2) you must have little work giving the needed information and (3) the problems must be aligned with the functions. Because of these, I suggest to give a problematic situation someone lived (historical figure or fictional character) and ask what they believe could be the best decision, and what should have been taken in consideration. Now I'll address the reason why this solves key: 1. It's about only one decision, so you wouldn't need complex reasoning, it's up to you how much effort you put into it. 2. It's about a public known situation, there's no need to come up with data for both sensing and intuitive functions. If someone wants a specific kind of information they can search it by themselves. 3. You can separete the problem to emphasize any situation. You can give a battle situation for thinkers or a moral dilemma for feelers. As an additional tip, I would say these problems could be given beforehand, to give the time necessary for the introverted functions.

[@RetroXRicardo]

As an ESFJ, I realize that I don't know many people or have common acquaintances who are "NT". I think they were probably drawn to me, but I never noticed them. Nevertheless, this panel was so helpful for me to see the similarities and differences. Now, I'll have some idea if I ever meet anyone who is an "NT" type. I suspect my colleague, who is the grade 6/7 teacher is an INTP because he speaks like Spacey, thinks very "Ne" like him and even looks like him. Great panel! 👏👏👏

[@jerlinej3516]

Nii reminded me of the trial-and-error approach that extraverted functions tend to have, not just Te. I think when any of us use our top extraverted function we're not afraid to look incompetent 🤣. Could be a cool shortcut for when we feel held back by perfectionism. As an introvert I see Fe, Ne, Te, Se as being open to dealing with disconnected things whether it be emotions, ideas, logic, or facts and work it out externally, which usually means with our around other people (a nightmare for me). And introverted functions bring them to focus. Personally, I'll "talk it out" when it comes to ideas but not my feelings. If the ideas are closely connected to my feelings..then I may never talk 😂.

[@JoyceMeng22]

Great analysis of extroverted vs introverted functions, @Jerline J!

[@enfieldjohn101]

I wondered what the 'wing' thing was in personality, so I looked it up. Enneagram is an interesting alternative theory to mbti. I took the test on a couple of different sites, and tested as a 5W6 on both. The descriptions of 5 and 6 were interesting. The Wing idea is a clever way to try to understand that people's personalities don't conform to ridgid definitions. I've seen videos about MBTI having 'subtypes', which is another way of getting at that. The only truth is what exists physically. Everything else is perception, opinion, theory, politics, feelings, etc. about what exists. I can tell who the Es and the Is are without the captions because the Es are doing most of the talking. Joyce sometimes has to ask them questions directly to keep them in the conversation. She's a very good moderator. I have never been comfortable with playing games against other people, especially in person. I'd rather play against the A.I. of a computer or console or choose your own adventure book game. That way, my opponent is predictable and I can find the patterns. Also, I can't hurt the A.I.s feelings, or get into an arguement with it or vice versa. I am in control in these situations and that feels good. I used to have concrete plans for the future, but all of them have fallen apart, so right now, I don't have any plans anymore. It's depressing and stressful. I wish that I was more naturally free wheeling. I currently am a freelance writer, editor and consultant. If only I was less driven to obsessivly plan, I would be enjoying this kind of work more. I enjoy science fiction because I, too think about the 'what if's' all the time, both in the immediate and long distance future. I think that's why we NTs are seen as being able to predict the future. I'll read or watch scifi and then continue to think about it if I found the story interesting. I'm the type who sometimes writes 'fan fiction', or at least gets into debates with other fans about what happens next in the story, or what 'should' have happened. As a writer, I find that the need to write a story, or looking for inspiration for a story, all the reason I need to think about any given topic or genre. I think my wife is an ENTP. Our NT aspects help us get along very well. She is more outgoing and in tune with the here and now than I am.

[@boryman2999]

yes exactly, I want the thinking to be automatic problem solver auto pilot, like a benevolent A.I., Then spend the rest of my existence in dream fantasyland!

[@Enigma96969]

Awesome thanks

[@JoyceMeng22]

Welcome 😊

[@Nuggetmonk]

INTP-T here. very interesting vid. i think i could vibe (so to speak) with all four but i think ENTPs and ENTJs are usually pretty cool because they drive the conversation forward while the INTP is so much "in his head" there would be a awkward silence very fast if it were not for the ENTPs and ENTJ. i tend to like rational but openminded people and get very easy confused by outburst of emotion (what ever kind)

[@wegotonelove]

Haha yess! Online I can debate and its so fun and easy but it's usually becauee im arguing about something morally upsetting to me. Irl I do get offended when people keep asking me questions and assume they think I'm an idiot. It's so hard to talk about something and feel heard when someone is questioning you all the way. I really don't like it 😂

[@yuh-tx2qo]

47:55 Lmao. They just laugh 🤣 I love it.

[@6jefferson]

As an Infj, I would say getting to the truth isn't necessarily a waste of time. My conception of truth may take longer to get to than it does for others.

[@_linlin_]

I know that I am definitely an NT, I thought of being an ENTP but I relate much more to Ni's vision of the future... Leaning more towards ENTJ tbh.

[@johndello-stritto4800]

Joyce, Please consider an MBTI vote for the best personality type that should be a starship captain. Many of your audience would like to know the scenarios and types of decisions made in real critical situations and which type would be the best leader. I am very curious on that because I'm an INTJ by peer review sort of..... thanks

[@OnLifeandLove]

I would vote for ESTP or ESFP with well developed Te. Se really comes in handy in all the unexpected situations in space.

[@johndello-stritto4800]

@@OnLifeandLove Thanks, I disagree People with emotional and political skills are not electrical engineers or physicists. Remember decisions could be fatal and final. You need laser focus and total mental clarity and starship captain with a PHD in technical studies . This is not Star Trek - you cant leave the living room for a break. Once you are off the earth; it is a "OH S--- " moment heading towards the next star. I think NT's are better suited towards this position.

[@aname4141]

Nii has me questioning my type once again. I typed myself INTJ but I relate far more to everything he said than to anything Nichola said.

[@JoyceMeng22]

I am posting a 2nd NT panel soon, perhaps that one will help you further sort out your type!

[@i3ignorantidelweb43]

Maybe you are an ambivert because it's quite easy to figure out if you're introvert or extrovert

[@aname4141]

@@i3ignorantidelweb43 I am definitely introverted, but ENTJs aren’t necessarily a people’s people social butterflies. It could be the case that I am TeNi but not necessarily very outgoing.

[@i3ignorantidelweb43]

@@aname4141 I know I know but when you’re an introvert you really feel in yourself (Idk how to explain) anyway if you still have doubts I can share you a video that’s called “10 signs you’re a true introvert”: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2i5oaWLr52lqNE And also “11 signs you’re an ambivert”: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5XHaGd9n9aindE But you can also be an introverted extrovert (kzbin.info/www/bejne/fn7EiGuEftaMg5I) or a shy extrovert

[@aname4141]

@@i3ignorantidelweb43 I am, and always have been, very introverted, but just in case: I have 9/10 signs for the first video, 6/11 for the second one, and none for the last one. I also don't think it's helpful for anyone to gatekeep introversion, and most of the traits of ambiverts apply main to introverts. The gist of what I understand as introversion is that it's a cognitive preference towards a subject's internal world, while extroversion is a cognitive preference towards a subjects external world, which causes(or might be caused by, I'm not sure) an increase of energy when time is spent alone and in company respectively. Anything further to add to this, as far as I see, must be established either empirically or logically following from the definition I gave, if itself can be proven to be true.

[@andysmiles1213]

@sebastian #entp can see the ti showing. Relatable.

[@hanjesse31]

@17:56 i was thinking what spacey had in mind. What does he mean by ''illogical truth''? Does he mean feelings? Does he mean he wont take it out of the equation, because he acknowledge that it is there(it is given)? And it fits to another puzzle?

[@Slippernips]

I only mean that some truths can't be found through logic, or solely by logic. Not everything that is true is rational or will make complete sense to you.

[@hanjesse31]

@@Slippernips thank you. Your answer there is different from what i heard before. I was thinking that logic was looking for absolute truth and Ti=logic.

[@CE-do2vm]

As an INTJ woman, I don't relate to Nichola very much. I do however relate to Nii.

[@JoyceMeng22]

Yes, there are different shades of INTJs! So that's absolutely alright. 🙂

[@blop711]

I don’t think that she is comfortable enough in this setting. They are talking to strangers after all.

[@dragonmaster2207]

Very interesting, but now I feel I know less then before..I'm all of them? Thx for sharing I also wonder what type is Joyce?

[@JoyceMeng22]

Thanks for watching, @Dragon Master! I'm an INFJ. 🙂

[@AnkD-ug7te]

D4 here.. People are less prepared for it..till 1500

[@aniokay]

Hey Joyce, can I come with a request? I would like how different personality types relate to reprogramming your mind (on a deep level, like altering your world view, etc). Is it something they do? I am constantly and very intentionally working on reprogramming my mind (I will for instance expose myself to different series from different cultures in order for me to expand my perspective and understand other peoples perspective more, so when I meet these people, I'm not biased towards them). I am also reprogramming my mind from getting past my childhood traumas in order for me to participate in a healthy relationship (through therapy, you can't reprogram a trauma body and brain by yourself; you won't see all of your blindspots). I sort of see it as a way of manipulating myself indirectly towards a goal by reprogramming my worldview and enabling me to take action further down the line (which is a classic way of postponing action, I know). How many intuitives does this form of actively working with their own mind? I often compare it to the form of self manipulation the protagonist does in the movie Memento (without ending up hurting ppl of course....😁)

[@devinbrines]

Nichola is a cool chick

[@zzzzzz-rs7eg]

how to be sure that ur an entp or an intp?like how do u classify the functions since they have the same functions

[@theodorerogers5827]

I'm just 30 min in and my intp scepticism has eased up a bit. What I'd to know us there a community of intps or just nts where they share thoughts and perspectives ?

[@amorphousblob1762]

Look on discord

[@christalsworld6273]

Even though it says DMV and Bmore, the organizer has other groups and there are virtual meetups on the kumospace platform where you can find your people. Hope to see you there!

[@hanjesse31]

@10:45 I don't know if i am hearing it wrong. I am not really a native english speaker. But, did he say ''genesis''? Like ''The beginning'' concept on the Christian Bible?

[@letitiadominic2504]

Genesis just means the beginning of something. It doesn’t have to mean the Christian concept in the Bible.

[@hanjesse31]

@@letitiadominic2504 i see. I only heard the word used in the bible. I didn't know it was an actual word on its own. I thought it was used as a figure of speech here. Thank you for clarifying

[@letitiadominic2504]

@@hanjesse31 welcome

[@tahertz8544]

Trolling the humans, that are the interweb fact checkers is FUN. (I'm a INTP) They are doing it /so they are asking for it

[@titusvarughese]

Shit, there is no personality type that allows you to keep quiet due to stage fear?

[@aniokay]

Hey Joyce, I have to ask: Do you also plan ahead 25 years in the future, or is that just the INTJ? I find that I look a lot to the future, but not on my own behalf, much more to predict where the world is heading and humanity as a whole (not sure about my type though).

[@Dystisis]

I think the future-oriented thing is kinda overblown, and it's a mistake to conflate pattern-recognition/distillation (which is what Ni does) so much with future forecasting. There's definitely a correlation but strictly speaking, Ni is just a way of organizing information (distilling the essential concepts) and directing it towards the future is optional.

[@aniokay]

@@Dystisis I agree. Maybe the future orientation comes from when an Ni user has a vision. But not all Ni users might have one clear vision....

[@Thelittleclipstore]

Is there a way I can speak to that entj?

[@HexagonSun990]

I'm always on autopilot

[@amorphousblob1762]

Recent study shows that 1 out of every 2 nt types wear nerdy glasses

[@jonathancampbell5231]

Funny- was literally just debating whether Magnus Carlsen was an INTJ or ISTP a couple of hours before this was posted.

[@jack76787]

Can’t he be an INTP? I don’t feel like he’s an INTJ. ISTP seems likely to me.

[@snudgegalbraith3447]

Theres no way he is intp he wears suits.

[@snudgegalbraith3447]

@jack76787 he is an intp. He talks about how his ability to recognise the chess patterns have built up over his life...."Si" and that he never plans too far ahead in chess because its useless..."no Ni".

[@jonathancampbell5231]

@@snudgegalbraith3447 How is that different from how anyone else plays chess though? Everyone who plays chess at a high level will have memorised patterns, because that's a huge part of the game, and everyone who plays it against opponents as good as they are or better will learn the hard way that few plans survive first contact with the enemy.

[@snudgegalbraith3447]

Ni Se will be more tactical planned moves which span a few moves ahead. Ne Si will be more reactive and take each turn as a fresh canvas.

[@pugninja7037]

I hate trolling.. there's no point, tho I laugh at my own stupid jokes that aren't funny to others. Thats so interesting,on what if.. with intjs I've asked the what if qs as entp and they didn't work.

[@JohnSmith-ox3gy]

There is a wide variety of trolling but I would say all of it is to demonstrate some kind of (manipulation?/dominance?) of the environment be it social, emotional, intellectual or material. Making someone fo something stupid, say something stupid or feel something stupid.

[@pugninja7037]

@@JohnSmith-ox3gy I guess, I think if trolling is used to prove others wrong , why is truth seeking more important then actually zipping one's mouth, and say who cares, i'm a entp and over a conversation with a intj ..accuracy , being right, isn't going to get entps connections emotionally, I began to zip my mouth and use less assumptions and more listening instead.

[@brianwong5055]

INTP here! Can I join your podcast one day? :D

[@i3ignorantidelweb43]

INTJ here, maybe we can join together lol

[@brianwong5055]

@@i3ignorantidelweb43 haha or we'll probably end up creating one lmao

[@i3ignorantidelweb43]

@@brianwong5055 it I’ll be cool

[@jankyyard5610]

It's kind of funny how in the cover: ENTJ, ENTP, and INTJ smiles with showing their teeth, while the INTP one just flex their lips upwards a little bit and thought "good enough for me".

[@XX-bk6xd]

When I watch a video with Nii, I come away feeling hes actually an ENFJ

[@hanjesse31]

What did you observed specifically? Do you see FeNi?

[@JoyceMeng22]

That's understandable. I can see how a mature ENTJ will seem ENFJ-like. 🙂 However, I have talked with Nii one-on-one and he doesn't value Fe at all. Even in this interview, he talks about how he never naturally considers "comradery or connection" when making decisions. Fe is off his radar. I believe him to be a friendly ENTJ.

[@NellaArabrab]

What @Joyce Meng said is absolutely true. Nii is an ENTJ, just a mature one.

[@meredith18352]

@@JoyceMeng22 ENTJs with demon Fe, does this just mean they are unaware of the emotions of others or mean they are 'inconsiderate' of their feelings? My mum is an ENTJ and my impression is that she is completely blind to what other people are feeling and will do things that others are clearly uncomfortable with like give unwanted hugs. Her intentions are good but it did always make her a distant mother who was very hard to connect with. I appreciate the boundaries she set and the responsibility she instilled but conversations growing up were not easy. Plus having expectations of XNFPs has probably meant that my sister and I have both actually managed to gain qualifications we wouldn't have if left to our own indecisiveness...sorry beware the Ne rant

[@WriteTheTruth]

can you do NT woman only?

[@JoyceMeng22]

Sure!

[@Nothing-iz6hw]

@@JoyceMeng22 yesss pleaseee

[@meredith18352]

Wow, these types must find Fi doms so frustrating

[@user-wh3qo9ch2v]

My isfp brother gets along extremely well with his intp, entp friends so this comment is so funny to me. Because he is around them so much he acts like them most of the time.

[@kevrokka.d.9749]

I'm an INTP and Fi is my least favorite function and coincidentally it's my very last function, so it's no wonder that I hate it. :P

[@speakersr-lyefaudio6830]

You have no idea lol.

[@joubertrouret2769]

@@kevrokka.d.9749 fe actually

[@kevrokka.d.9749]

@@joubertrouret2769 I'm talking about the entire function stack - shadow functions and all. Fi is dead last.

[@rilruu]

ENTP --with too much ne kkkk

[@user-pk9qw8mz9n]

Spacey classic intp XD

[@trajansmethod2050]

6:41 nichola is correct with the contempt, i have contempt for everyone. because all are so stupid

[@ryokosp21]

You're absolutely right. But what's even more amusing is when you (INTJ, presumably) are wrong and I sit back and, as with everyone else, allow you to be wrong while watching you think you're better than everyone else - INTP, including herself in "everyone"

[@trajansmethod2050]

@@ryokosp21 i'm never wrong Ni wont allow it

[@ryokosp21]

@@trajansmethod2050 popcorn.gif on the inside, flat affect on the outside

[@trajansmethod2050]

@@ryokosp21 im guessing that means something!!! difficult to discern any sense in the comment im afraid. try being straight forward if you have a point, which you dont.

[@ryokosp21]

@@trajansmethod2050 I do apologize for assuming a certain level of meme knowledge on your part. It appears my joke continues to compound on itself, quite unintentionally, by flying right over your head. More importantly, Ne posits a situation for you. Two primary Ni users, including yourself, must answer a yes/no query where only one answer is correct. You each reach a different conclusion. What then?

[@dovio832]

For what i know from experience and studying as an entp . Every functions is about awareness so the higher your functions is the more aware you are of it. Ni/Se= "the best line of action"(Ni) with the "details"(Se) that i a have observe and at what conclusion can we arrive or direction is going. It's more like a bunch of Se details and observation transforms into one singular best line of fit.So high Se users observe as many details and what others a doings right now and try as many things to be sure of the most optimal line of action for themselves but high Ni create in their head the best line of action from all the details and what others are doing right now. Ni=Own future,passion,desire Se=reality, Physical,performance Ne/Si= it's a never ending spider web of abstract patterns.It's more like from what i know/have experience(Si) what can we do ? (Ne). It's like the saying "what is happened before may happen again" So Ne users create/warn outcomes and use self discipline as a way to make it happen or avoid it like the saying "orders = outcomes ". So the more you know the more your able to provide warning and ideal outcomes and create some kind of system to reach it . So high Si users stick to what they know already and use " common sense " to avoid any unpredictable outcome " what should i do (Si) if this happen (Ne)? So high Ne is "what if this happen (Ne)? What should i do (Si)? Ne=possible, collectif future,abstract patern. Si=self-dicipline,body,past experience,comfort. My sources are from : Dr.john Beebe,Csj,Michael priece,talking with famous peoples. Sorry for any mistake