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[@lotcarlos9996]

The intro of the INFJ cracked me up! That is so typical of an INFJ.

[@Charcoal-Ninja]

That's exactly what I was thinking! Great to know I'm not the only one who does that!

[@lxf9914]

I know right? generic questions like "who are you" or "introduce yourself" are always difficult for some reason. time stamp for the replay 0:42 lol infj represent haha

[@LilacSnowBun]

Lol I adored her immediately

[@xitsoksana8773]

Absolutely charming. 😆

[@kababudas4157]

Wow! You don't forget that the dominant function of INFJ ( and INTJ ) is introvert intuition ,in short Ni means information gathering process that focuses on patterns, perspectives, hidden meanings and future implications , so what is your real problem

[@enfieldjohn101]

I love what Joyce says about NJs being conceptual finishers who see how a concept could play out over time. So true. I wonder how many NJs love science fiction like I do. One thing I love about it as an NJ is how well-written sci-fi takes current (at the time it was written anyway) technology and/or social situations and projects it into the future to explore what the long-term consequences could be, or where the idea could lead. We also are good (or bad, depending on perspective of those sitting with us :)) at finding the underlying message of a movie, or what the symbolism of it means. We're the kind of people who like to buy DVDs or BluRays of movies that have 'special features' that tell how the movie was made. We listen to the audio commentaries on these movies and sometimes find that more interesting than the movie itself. At least I do. Time travel is a fun concept, but we NJs can see why it would actually be a terrible thing if it ever became possible. We see how things are interrelated and the potential future results of even everyday actions. Real-life time travel would wreak total havoc on history, from a personal level all the way up to world-wide history. Yes, simulations! I catch myself simulating or imagining what could happen in a situation long before it ever happens. Sometimes we create entire fantasies in our mind just for the fun of exploring an idea or feeling, even if nothing like it ever happens in their life. It's like we never truly 'grow up' out of the childhood phase of playing pretend. We maybe don't play pretend outwardly anymore (unless we get into historical reenacting or LARPing or RPGs etc), but we keep doing it in our minds. Am I the only NJ who gets genuine feelings of deja vu? Seems like something will happen and I'm like "I've seen this before" either because we see the patterns to such an extent that we can tell when two things or events are essentially the same, or even because we sometimes imagine the future to the extent that something will happen that's almost exactly like what we imagined it would.

[@clotildemartinezlopez7017]

I love NJs i could (hypothetically) listen to someone with high Ni for hours

[@kairostimeYT]

Erika is calm and graceful.

[@Thrillium512]

Watching INTJ AsuraPsych play with a string, yawn, visibly change facial expressions that have nothing to do with the conversation but still be listening and attentively adding to the conversation made me laugh so hard. RBF is real. It worse because he’s next to 2 INFJs that are keyed into the conversation 100% so the contrast is ridiculously hilarious. I laughed forever on this

[@theloniusmonk1263]

As an ENTJ married to an ENFJ, this was excellent.

[@AnkD-ug7te]

Freaking ENFJ magic.,I started with skipping denzel.. to finally settling on “denzel is hilarious” -ENTJ

[@BeyondSustainableLiving]

I totally relate to Chris about really wanting to be left alone to process my emotions when they are still fresh and raw. It can be extremely annoying and frustrating and even more upsetting if somebody interferes with that process. The more deep or painful the emotion, then the more I need to be left alone. It's a true NEED. Afterwards, I also DO want and need to discuss with the person (e.g. if I had an argument with my girlfriend or colleague or family member) but not until I've had that time alone first. Also, like Chris said, it just doesn't happen very often. I'm usually at a good level of happiness or at least contentedness. Other than being annoyed if someone cuts me off in traffic type of thing, I would say I have strong feelings that need processing maybe once a year, maybe less. At this point in my life I have designed my life where things generally are good almost all the time so it just doesn't come up to have really negative feelings that require processing. And if something has a potential to be bad, I can usually see that a mile away and make decisions to prevent it from occurring. As a note, this is very different than the Fe reason for not talking about their feelings. Denzel was saying that he doesn't want to bring the other person down but I think it's different with Fi. I don't want to bring the other person down either but that is not the driving force behind the need to process alone. As an analogy, imagine if you are slapped and are stunned or if you are in a car wreck and in shock. In those moments, you are simply unable to engage. It's not about thinking about the other person's feelings. It's about your own need to first recover emotionally and then process the situation and figure out what happened so you can understand it and eventually get back to yourself again. The only time where I would go to a person to talk about my feelings is when I am not able to do it myself and AFTER I've already processed the most intense feelings. For example, if I'm struggling with a personal issue that has been going on for a long time (e.g. feeling guilty about not calling my Mom often enough before she passed away) and I can't seem to resolve it, I will eventually seek out a friend or my Dad to talk with. In those cases, I usually just need someone to let me process out loud and listen and validate my feelings and let me cry if needed. Then it's all good and I'm back to normal. But that is ONLY after I've processed the most intense and raw emotions alone myself. I don't ever take my intense feelings to anyone. It's too raw and they will interfere too much. If I am coming to you, then I've already processed the worst of it and I am just needing help getting through the last stages of processing. This is often about Te or Fe at this point, trying to gain understanding of other outside factors.

[@chossenone9508]

with respect I say whether ur mother needed ur calls or not and if that is important thing for her after death is unknown the thing is u think it's important so ur problem is that u're trying to force the thought that ur mother needed ur calls and u have to do something about it but u can't really cause she's dead nice strategy to but ur self in unsolvable situation to process the negative emotions that u find in ur being I hope u go through them but I also hope for u to stop attaching them to ur mother

[@kyurei4478]

It's not talked about enough but I can see it's the exact same process for INFJs and maybe ENFJs too with their thoughts so their Ti. That's what the INFJ stereotype about existencial crisis is referring to. We need time to process informations by ourselves sometimes so we don't want a practical solution before we understood our own logical problem or philosophical dilemma. And then when it's resolved we can talk about it and see what others think about it. If we're trapped without the impossibility to find solutions though maybe we'll ask to someone about more datas if they have answers to unlock the situation or we just search answers by ourselves on the Internet. Requests can be so specific that it can be hard to find a study that precisely answers the question sometimes, so someone with the overall knowledge will be welcomed to answer the one question we struggle with cause we don't have the needed facts.

[@kyurei4478]

Sadly for Te users, sometimes there is just no problem to solve cause there is nothing left that can be solved. That's usually the kind of situations where immature Te users start giving more credit to paying attention to feelings and caring about it. Then the only actual thing left to solve is you and your emotional state, so you have to accept not solving a problem but being contented through emotional guidance to find peace in your mind and efficiency again.

[@lxf9914]

1:32:35 Ni song by Erika "my freedom is my cage, my quietude my rage; I'm a cookie-cutter sage" I felt that. Fire lyrics Erika.

[@erikng6487]

Denzel's description of FE is so insightful, esp for this FI user😊

[@VortexThePrime]

What Denzel was saying about the thermostat analogy, about how he is just trying to get back to contentment even if he is in a super happy mood is interesting. I wonder if that has anything to do with how Fe works, or maybe even just how it works in ENFJs even. Maybe they need to be in that balanced zone in order to accurately guage the emotions of those around them? Like a tool that need to be properly calibrated to work. Also it may be that someone who is more balanced is much less likely to rock the boat emotionally. That leaves you time and room to gauge your audience and resonate with them.

[@BeyondSustainableLiving]

Yes! Chris! I love talking with an ENTJ when I'm struggling with something (not necessarily too deeply emotional but just wanting to talk it out). I have an ex-gf ESTJ and she was GREAT to work through things, solve problems (which then resolves the emotion)! Also I totally related to Nii's appreciation for having the discussion about a different perspective. My INFJ Mother always did that for me growing up and it was SOOO SUPER HELPFUL. Fortunately, I think I've grown to do it for myself pretty well now as a result. Thank you, Mom. :-)

[@HelloThere-ki5mg]

Over the past year I've become close friends with an ENTJ, and as an ENFP it's very interesting to see things from her point of view. She very regularly gets into elaborate rants (usually about why the second hobbit movie is bad) which frequently end up looking like that one meme of the guy frantically explaining something with all the pictures and stuff in the background (hopefully you know what I mean?) and I kinda just sit there like 👁👄👁 The other day she casually mentioned that she plans out her conversations and I was like "wait... you plan out everything you're going to say before you have a casual conversation with someone?" And she was like "Is that not normal?" 😅 As much of an ENTJ archetype that she is, she definitely breaks a lot of the false stereotypes I had about ENTJs. I had the image of a bossy, cold-hearted person and since she wasn't at all like that, I actually originally thought she was an ENFJ. Good thing I was proven wrong, I definitely don't want to have bad assumptions of types. Overall she's a very fun and interesting person, I'm glad to have her as a friend Also this is kinda random but how convenient is it that Nii is named after one of his cognitive functions lol

[@lxf9914]

Yeah I doubt thats an accident. Most likely him being clever with his screen name...otherwise wow thats such an Ni trait. We always have "coincedences" happen all around us. They didnt get into that which wouldve be a perfect thing to talk about in a topic covering Ni. Yet, true to form, I find it funny that all the Ni users were trying to learn about emotions from each other. They talked about the functions that differ as all Ni's were trying to gain insight lol

[@jbodhi15]

This is amazing! NJs are so good at remembering and summing up the collective concepts going on, and finding the nuggets of wisdom from each as a kind of whole. So cool.

[@fatimahamer7131]

I bet when Denzel as talking, the other 4 were spacing out often

[@ijmimi9186]

This is so calming and soothing. Wow. Love listening to NJs.

[@JonasAnandaKristiansson]

Ni powah1!

[@RetroXRicardo]

This was such an interesting panel Joyce! It's interesting how the "SJ" types are known as the Guardians/Stabilizers. From this panel, I'm noticing a pattern that "NJ" types are comfortable with the concepts of being the Visionary/Innovator types! Also, the whole section on how these types process emotions as thermostat vs. temperature vibes was SO interesting! It's so wonderful to see the contrasts of the types with the Intuition perception and Judging function combined! 👏👏👏

[@sptxiwnl]

when there's a entj in the podcast it gets interesting

[@sugarasha]

id love it if he had a yt channel :/

[@cclarksonable]

My recurring nightmare is any situation where I am unprepared - unexpected exams etc.

[@TraumaType]

My sons mom is an ESFP. When we were together it was a giant “ I told you so” fest. It was frustrating on both ends

[@JoyceMeng22]

That sounds intense, Jeffrey!!

[@lxf9914]

53:40 Nii's question on Fe managing people's moods being challenging because moods fluctuate; all the answers were true but I'd add that for me as an INFJ, Fe is about managing somebody's mood to one that I'd rather feel myself. Fe is more of a "vibe" and we are constantly absorbing others moods or vibes to which in turn our emotions calibrate. So when we feel we are being moved or calibrated in a way that we are uncomfortable with, we try and change it. It's a weird boomerang of a function where it has to affect the peoples emotions so that it can establish its own. If that's not possible we leave unless the emotion is one where we have to engage for reaching some important conclusions or arguments. Then we are Ni-Ti engaged and the mood of discourse/argument is accepted. In short: Fe long term - bring the best out of people so they can perform Fe short term - bring them up because they are bringing me down. edit: it also occurs to me after hearing the Fi perspective on processing emotions - Fe users ask if you are alright because we as extroverted feelers usually need to talk about our emotions in order to process them since it is an extroverted function. So we are giving you the same treatment that we ourselves need thinking that you also might need it or at least offer it. We Fe users are not good with our own emotions since it is in our shadow so we need help understanding them.

[@queuegameplus]

People are complicated. Each emotion has strings tied to it, and I think Fe users can be pretty sensitive to those strings - grief, in particular. Instead of reaching out and finding a base mood, for me it's more noticed / I'm more likely to act when someone seems stuck in an emotion. That's likely a function of Fe alerting Ni that this person could use a nudge back onto their charted course.

[@braxtonmills1235]

Beautiful intelligent and smart .

[@divergent_foxx]

For whatever reason this is making me want to go watch natuto more. Great characters with these personalities on there. It's the best.

[@if3359]

Wonderful episode! I (INFJ) related so much! I think you guys did a wonderful job of explaining the NJ view Thank you Joice for these awesome videos!

[@Dani-jo9yr]

Uau my mind 🤯listening other Ni😅love it- thanks to all of my NJ’s💜

[@BeyondSustainableLiving]

Another great video Joyce! I love you guys all so much!

[@lauraelzey6371]

Loved the song❤❤❤❤❤

[@BeyondSustainableLiving]

At the end there, Erika reminded me a bit of Tori Amos! Right on Erika!!

[@TheAdhdGardener]

Yyaaazzzz I love using seeds as an analogy/metaphors to explain many life issues, explanations etc. It just fits-ENTJ

[@rhoheta5243]

Regarding Denzel's interesting story at the amusement park, I think there are a couple things not mentioned. First that INTJs don't like doing things such as handling the details of physical world stuff like ordering tickets. This leads them to not investigating the details of it very much and so their usually good Ni that predicts the way the process will go turns out to be faulty. Instead they will imagine the way they should logically go, but in real life we all know that that is usually not the case. But consequently, the thing will then tend to go badly. When they do, they might not take this all that badly because they never respected the task in the first place. Second, when things do screw up, they would probably prefer some positive acknowledgement to an elephant in the room. Not overly long or vociferous, but something short along the lines of "hey, can we do this better next time?" helps let the air out of the pressure balloon, because with their deficient Fe the INTJ probably didn't really know for sure what you were thinking, Denzel. Maybe you were so resentful that it rendered you speechless would probably be the first guess. The idea that you were holding space was probably never even imagined. That's slot 7 Fe for you. Third, because the INTJ probably never imagined your holding space concept, when there was a problem later, there would have been no thought of reciprocating space holding because it had never been understood in the first place that that had happened.

[@JonasAnandaKristiansson]

7:40 - Yes, INSIGHT is the nr1 thing that comes up for me I'd say.

[@hirsch4155]

48:00 Damnnn NTJs are astute , love it. And fascinating .

[@Floowetic]

The ENFJ face when the INTJ talks about their style of parenting😂😂😂😂 52:57

[@charles2241]

INTJ/INFJ here. As far as making decisions go, I tend to go for thinking several stages through at the same time, or at stage one anyway, and that can take a number of days. OTOH, I'm gearing more these days to taking decisions as they come, and this has nothing to do with action. Asurapsych mentioned laziness earlier, and I think there's some of that going on with it, but the reason I'm now thinking more on one stage at a time, is because my thoughts (not actions) are better formed at those specific stages. IOW, each stage has its inspiration, which very often will not be at stage one. It is also why cramming so many stages in at the same time can be frustrating, because the inspiration isn't doled out in that manner. For me, I make a general plan, and I don't hesitate in the least to trash it, but it gets me started, and then it WILL get adjusted as I go, because I have to be open to the light each stage will give me and clinging to that stage's decision made way back at stage one, will very often crush that. I don't necessarily think that the final decision ends up being all that different no matter the method, since we are talking the same brain here, but I just see a waste of time thinking too much on something in its opening phase. Maybe I wasn't such a good thinker in earlier days thinking as each stage came, but I've had enough of doing it this way, that I do think it's the better way. Back to laziness though. I find there's a certain amount of time each decision calls for, and then I have to at least make a general decision. For the lazy, it really is easier to make decisions as you go, because you don't spend so much time in what ends up being fruitless thought. Hey, I want my brain working on something else, not the same dreary thing over and over. Also, I coldly never do anything for the sake of it giving me faith in myself, AFAIC there's no faith to be spent on this human being, rather, if I must find faith, put it in the Almighty, of course. Let's go with first rate, not whatever rate I am. In any case, I make my decisions simply based on what is most likely to pay off - nothing more (which very often has nothing to do with money, but usually philosophy).

[@BeyondSustainableLiving]

Keirsey, Mind Mates, Yes! I remember when I was in my twenties, and honestly, even today still at times, I told myself I must marry another thinker. I would long and pine for that mind mate. I NEEDED to have someone with whom I can relate intellectually. I have since realized that feelers are so good for me too and I can probably get my mind mate needs met through friendships and colleagues but I still long for mind mates sometimes, probably because it's so hard to find them. They are very rare.

[@user-js4mt1nr2y]

Here I come with an other giant analisis again haha. Around 1:26:00 Denzel talks about 2 things.. The analysing of a room and taking charge in leading the conversations. I have just recently responded to the video about the leader types ENFJ ENTJ ESTJ ESTP and I started thinking about what would be the natural order of people talking and who will lead/dominante the room. So there is a perfect example of how ENFJ that is 😂 And Indeed I think this in rooms (groups) how can I help the conversation flow. How can I restore balanse and have everyone speaking and being content. In this video they think that it is an ESFJ thing to bring the room in a better state in a maybe forcefull positivity kind of way. But I think ENFJ's are also working the room. People don't seem to notice tho. They just think we like to talk and joke a lot. We don't say what others must do we just try to influence and guide the group. I do use the thermometer in the way that not everyone needs to be happy but I do want to lift the general spirits of the room when it is low or negative. But it's just not the toxic positivity they seem to think of. I think it's because I am a anneagram 2 and Denzel is a 9 that I might entertain more. This leading the room or entertaining it is not my default content state it's done with more energy than I naturally use and it takes effort. When things are flowing I can sit back and enjoy just like Denzel also is talking about around 1:28:00. But when we talk about leading the vibes of the conversation I think Denzel talked too much even tho his intention was good trying to input some material to think about. He should known this was Joyce's roll. And especially with introverted thinkers in his presence he could have hold a bit more space. But this is maybe my people pleasing side and I sometimes accomidate too much out of fear that others get annoyed 🤣. I think it was also typical ENTJ just asked a question and summerised what he thought were learning points in the video. It's how I listen and think too 😜 Next I think there was too little conversation about how they could learn from the functions they don't have. For instance for me the INTJ was just telling how he thinks saying he was right was a good lesson instead of taking in what FE could do in this case make a person process it better. He admitted his wife already knew she made a mistake he pointed out would be happening. So that's immaturity in my eyes.. And not because she would learn but because he wants to express his irritations. INTJ's can be very negative in dumping those emotions. But they can also be very grounded and socially aware when others might be upset. INFJ had attention to the learning part she told about how she learned the FI lesson. How this was also essential for the learning process even tho her NI wanted to tell her the rationalising side by looking at a problem from different perspectives. And this lesson I had to learn too as I am seeing the world in problems that can be fixed like the INTJ :) But we have to realise sometimes we have FI too and want to process stuff on our own too (just like Denzel said) without people telling us what to do. And Niii told about this too in a recognisable manner. The conversation wasn't as smooth as others but I just love how I relate too and understand all these types. And how they can all learn from eachother. - ENFJ

[@sptxiwnl]

i haven't read yur cmment but bruh enfjs talks a lot

[@Abelshevon]

Lovely, voice Erica.

[@dominicsey3032]

This was pleasant and insightful

[@VortexThePrime]

I'm only a bit into the video but wanted to comment on the mention of Loki. I agree with what was said about NJ types having a grasp of how our actions can impact the future and vice versa and how a lot of NP characters lack that ability. Having said that, I do believe that Loki is an INFJ still, I just believe he is an unhealthy INFJ who is heading towards healing during the last episodes of the show. He acts recklessly in the past because he isn't aiming to not cause anything bad from happening. He is trying to turn off his Fe as much as possible. By the end of the show, when they're met with the choice of sparing or killing Kang, Loki is the one who wants to consider sparing him due strictly to the ramifications of losing the system that is keeping things held together. Sylvie does not care, granted she is also consumed by revenge, but it seemed like a classic INFJ feeling from Loki in this moment. I truly believe that his character arc had progressed to where he wasn't considering it for the power of title of being in charge.

[@divergent_foxx]

This is great. I'm over here like please talk about the flash. Dooooo ittt!! Enfj says the flash for instant then loki bjsisksksksks. Just went grom DC fo Marvel real quick. 😆 😆 I agree with what he said alot. I could sit here all day and listen to your videos. My brain 🧠 gets lit up. Probably my ti ne or ne ti wanting to suck it in. Pretty sure multiple areas in my brain are activated. Being autistic that happens with my interests. Someone needs to figure that out. 🙄 😄

[@asibangoura8067]

She said "How can i generalise so that i can feel ok". I'm in my late 40s, discovered the mbti a month ago and its been such a relief it's amazing. Now for some reason i feel gut punched . That sentence is going to echo with me for a long time. Not sure why that made me so sad. Is it because of being accused of generalising my whole life, being misunderstood ? Or is it the meaning of it ? That without endlessly searching for that invisible ever changing pattern, i can just disolve and chaos hits so fast. Big sigh.......

[@IndrasChildDeepAsleep]

Fi Ne don? Ti Ne dom?

[@asibangoura8067]

@@IndrasChildDeepAsleep Ni dom

[@wegotonelove]

I do this but unconsciously 🙈 - "reading people". Almost like I'm gathering all the data about who people really are based on what I see (the example of the Red porsche). I wouldn't be able to put it into words or bring it to consciousness like this. I dont have this innate understanding of what I'm doing. It seems like a very clear and almost detached experience for the njs. My intuition in general is like aux Ni but much harder to follow - I'm likely to feel struck by things instead. Like feel them strongly as the web of Ni forms

[@GeoScorpion]

There's a lot of this conversation where I wish Heidi Preibe was here because a lot of this seems to be about Attachment Theory instead of MBTI. I'm an INTJ and my male best friend is an ENFJ like Denzel, but there's such an overlay of other things going on. (I WISH my ENFJ friend was as introspective and cogent as Denzel, but alas: Other shit going on!) That said my female best friend is what (correct me if I misremember) AsuraPsych called (on another video) an 'emotional crack addict' ENFP. Listening to Denzel v.s. my ENFJ friend, I'm thinking we have to overlay other things going on.

[@lpjah8951]

Erika’s 🔥

[@GeoScorpion]

01:26:53 Sorry, Nii, I know the original question was directed toward you. On the Keirsey question of mind-, soul- and sex-mates, I'm an INTJ like Chris, but I want ALL OF IT, and I 'settle for less' when I have to break that need up across several people (Even when they know and don't care).

[@icanrelate]

I've had those I told you so moments and I'm like...yup! You thought that because it hasn't happened, it won't!

[@NavesNiche]

Joyce I'm wondering how differently different MBTI types interact with themselves and whether it has to do with them talking to themselves with actual words in their minds or not. Also do they think with words or numbers or pictures or something else..

[@ravishingtwinkle3811]

❤️❤️❤️❤️ from INFJ Indian

[@hamza5106]

An excellent example of Ni running simulations is the scene in the Godfather before Michael Corleone (an INTJ) kills Sollozzo and McClusky. You can see the Ni movement in his eyes as he simulates how his life will change forever as he mentally transitions from a previous goal of having a clean criminal record and becoming a politician to becoming the head of the Corleone crime family. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqHNqnVogtWreLc&ab_channel=Movieclips skip to 1:20

[@beautedibango]

As an ENTJ, the seed analogy resonates so true! And also hearing Denzel’s analogy of the anime ‘death note’ ( one of my fave shows) was a special treat and I completely agree with him😊

[@DiegoBR]

Light was a INTJ. He only acts when he has the perfect plan. Plan, plan, plan ---> act. When he acted, he That why he freak out when he lost the last battle . He won't believed he lost! He only use the note in public one time He want rule the world from the shadows. He only interact with people when was really necessary. He always put the perfect plan over the action. His Ni was insane powerful.

[@stevethea5250]

21:00 spotton

[@GeoScorpion]

I'm sorry, but I have to put in this sudden insight (INTJ) about a different subject based on what Denzel said at 00:10:00 : INTJ's are thinking about "The Butterfly Effect" and ENFP's "Chase Butterflies". ... sorry. brain fart.

[@fadingintent]

I wonder if this musical performance needed such a long prelude. (jk😉)

[@lxf9914]

I read this comment when it first started and was confused...I get it now lol good song at the end!

[@stevethea5250]

what is joyce mbti ?

[@JoyceMeng22]

INFJ

[@divergent_foxx]

For whatever reason this is making me want to go watch natuto more. Great characters with these personalities on there. It's the best.