All The Idols Who Sued SM Entertainment (Who's at Fault?)

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[@KPOPNook]

Noticed a pattern there? 🤔 What do you think?

[@anistardi]

Yes. Definitely it is SM problem. But many k-pop fans are company stan. They view a k-pop group is manufactured. They are not real artist. Of course there are small exception. If you look bigger picture, it is cultural problem. Korean are chaebol (conglomerate) 's slave. Chaebol have power to the politician and law.

[@friede.]

Contract is made prior debut by both parties.

[@KimmyGibson]

I have always thought there should be a Korean Entertainment Union that protects workers rights, but do these young men and women hire lawyers to read the contracts thoroughly before signing? Same lawyer, knowing the contract, should be able to protect client from these abuses and future blackmailing. I must be missing something.

[@danimesova2639]

You missed the fact, that it took Jaejoong 12 years, before he appeared on TV in Korea in July 2021 on TV CHOSUN!

[@LLA-lr8kw]

f(x) members didn't sue SM for the mistreatments. They patiently waited and left SM after the end of their contract.

[@deettekearns9092]

The Korean court system doesn't seem very labor friendly.

[@CynthiaDale-ld9hl]

My idols are never to blame for anything bad not nothing at all x 💯💜💚🎤💋🇬🇧🇰🇷🪖⚔️💋

[@linkonabe220]

@@CynthiaDale-ld9hlThat’s a problem when you so blindly follow a human being who’s, by default, inherently prone to mistakes, misjudgment, misdeeds etc. A lot of these idols did not appropriately read, negotiate or research their contracts or bother to follow up, make documentation or request formal signatures when required to ensure their future. This is why people push to ensure *parents* do not allow their minors in these *adult* spaces. All of these idols, which the exception of one or two, were of the age to ensure they do all of the above - yet they failed tremendously. Much of what occurred that went on may have been “unfair” but these idols went along, signed, confirmed and agreed to it without utilizing any of their rights to ensure they were protected. So, contrary to your skewed view, these idols do much wrong and caused much of their own problems. Unfortunately.

[@linkonabe220]

@@CynthiaDale-ld9hl​​⁠That’s a problem when you so blindly follow a human being who’s, by default, inherently prone to mistakes, misjudgment, misdeeds etc. A lot of these idols did not appropriately read, negotiate or research their contracts or bother to follow up, make documentation or request formal signatures when required to ensure their future. This is why people push to ensure *parents* do not allow their minors in these *adult* spaces. All of these idols, which the exception of one or two, were of the age to ensure they do all of the above - yet they failed tremendously. Much of what occurred that went on may have been “unfair” but these idols went along, signed, confirmed and agreed to it without utilizing any of their rights to ensure they were protected. So, contrary to your skewed view, these idols do much wrong and caused much of their own problems. Unfortunately.

[@linkonabe220]

A lot of these idols did not appropriately read, negotiate or research their contracts or bother to follow up, make documentation or request formal signatures when required to ensure their future. This is why people push to ensure *parents* do not allow their minors in these *adult* spaces. All of these idols, which the exception of one or two, were of the age to ensure they do all of the above - yet they failed tremendously. Much of what occurred that went on may have been “unfair” but these idols went along, signed, confirmed and agreed to it without utilizing any of their rights to ensure they were protected.

[@tinatieken8840]

SM doesn’t let the people who are still with them have a personal life.

[@eileencritchley4630]

Blacklisting is going on in the Kpop industry even now.

[@jan-michele3546]

I was going to say something about it, too. Because of Kim Hyun Joong and how his reputation got tarnished by lies and how, when he was going through what he was going through because of the lies 501 and his company kinda washed their hands of him, his appearances got canceled, his songs stopped being played and he was cut out of things he had already filmed and was let go. If that is not being blacklisted, then I don't know what is. Also, there was another Idol who was blacklisted and was told they could not even perform under their legal name until so many years have passed, and their 15-year contract expired. Does anyone remember who HE was? I forget, but I read about his story about 4 or 5 years ago. Sounds like SM Entertainment needs to give up on being an entertainment agency as many lawsuits they have had. If it was a smaller agency, they would have lost their business. To answer the question asked in this video: " Who is the problem?" In MY opinion, it is the Fault of SM Entertainment. For the reason, even after the JYJ law, SM still has illegal slave contracts to this day and if someone says anything, SM makes it a lawsuit against the idol or anyone under their agency, and it also sounds like they also use harsher actions towards non-korean born idols. Kinda being racist towards the Chinese and American born Koreans, and other non-koreans. It is not just in Korea and in The Entertainment business. I have seen it here in America and Korean own businesses. It happened to a family member in the martial arts industry too.

[@KPOPNook]

The entertainment world can sometimes feel like a small, closed circle, which makes it challenging for artists to navigate freely..

[@l_on186]

This happened with CL and YG ent

[@jeneden3492]

I'll never forgive how dirty they did my JYJ boys... Over 15 years, goddamn

[@khangnguyen550]

surprisley all the kpop idol who blacklisted and filed lawsuit against sm have successful career in japan and china.

[@KPOPNook]

It's surprising, but true! It just goes to show how truly talented they are!

[@ann-archist7172]

Except Kris Wu, he has a successful career as a prison convict.

[@KPOPNook]

@@ann-archist7172 yes...

[@khangnguyen550]

@@ann-archist7172 and be deported

[@numeekune1398]

Honestly, one of the many reason is because they already super popular before throwing a lawsuit. TVXQ are one of the 'kpop god' back then. International fans more familiar with Super Junior while Japan, China including Taiwan, and Hongkong more familiar with TVXQ. TVXQ could randomly throw a big stadium concert schedule in Japan anytime they wanted without need spechific reason and their ticket still sold out. Same like Tao, Luhan, and Kris Wu before jail, EXO popularity is very very massive in SK, JP and China at that time. Special for Jaejoong, he is really something. He tried another field like acting that turns out really good while active with JYJ, then build his own business and becoming one of the most rich celebrity in SK.

[@anikalee9012]

Even they won the case JYJ couldn't live peacefully because sm is the boss in the country. I'm worry for whoever sue sm they should know. It's doesn't matter they win over sm or not. You know

[@KPOPNook]

It's fortunate that nowadays artists have more independent media platforms like KZbin to turn to, and more ways to reach fans. Considering the limited options back then, Jaejoong & Junsu’s ability to find success independently is truly remarkable and inspiring...

[@khangnguyen550]

Kim jaejoong was able find success in japan.

[@Hope55328]

Respect to jaejoong and junsu, they are in top 10 richest kpop idols

[@roger.camargo]

There are many lists, I've found one with Jaejoon with 50 million, but I can't find Junsu's on any of them... 😒

[@Hope55328]

@@roger.camargo an idol who talked about how rich they are

[@imyelpmae]

Jaejoong is at 100M.​@@roger.camargo

[@LisaMorris-mb8ec]

This is disgusting. To have a 13 year contract?? Omg I don’t know how those young artists survived all that😢😢 It says that contracts were reduced to 7 years. Are all agencies like this now? What is the normal contract length these days? These artists were extremely brave to do what they did and I’m angry that they suffered so much because of that action. And bravo to their fans who supported them❤️

[@aizjyjh1290]

All agencys mandatory 7yts after they won the lawsuit called jyj law

[@mlynlim5337]

Me not supporting anyone but they chose to sign so it’s not one sided

[@Hope55328]

Respect to jyj

[@KPOPNook]

yesss

[@777Mison]

I remember what happened to Jessica literally like it was yesterday, i was so upset angry and in disbelief 😢

[@KPOPNook]

I totally get that feeling. It was such a shocking moment for all of us fans. What happened between her and SM remains a secret behind closed doors, but sometimes we can't help but think, what if SNSD members had remained together 💔

[@mayathayil]

Clearly sm has paid the Korean judiciary 👩‍⚖️⚖️💼very well 💰💰💰💰💰💶💶💵💸

[@NCTDREAM_Dear7Dream]

Nothing changed SM is still worst agency in kpop.

[@leexeseul]

SM ent is corrupt for sure. I think a really horrible story is SES, first gen kpop from SM ent. They were not allowed to talk to anyone or make contact with the outside world, they had body guards with them 24/7 so that the three could remain "mysterious," to the public. The three SES members always joke and laugh about it, but wow, it sounds really horrible and creepy.

[@vixxexo6855]

Atleast they got bodyguards, meanwhile Taeyeon from Girls Generation got mobbed in airport because of lack of bodyguards.

[@leexeseul]

@@vixxexo6855 ah, you must not know about the 1st gen of kpop. kpop fans camped in front of the idol's houses. It went to the point where fans would go number 2 in the apartment halls and everything. Shinhwa dongwan got so tired of fans camping outside that he hosed the fans with water. lit every popular idol suffered stalking.

[@monsterbaek1648]

But even they all hate it in 2002 all of them do not accept solo singers contracts and still preferred being SES as a group right? What about h.o.t history their contracts in 2001 🤔?

[@leexeseul]

@@monsterbaek1648 It's alleged, that 'solo' deals in SM are treated differently than a group's contract. So they would use the solo career against the artist to extend their contract time period. It's like a loop hole.

[@eileencritchley4630]

that's sounds like they were in fact slave's captives it's disgusting.

[@armellebaylen]

Lets not forget what happened to H.O.T and Shinhwa.

[@rcb...._000._.]

Moral da história: A SM não aprendeu nada com seus erros desde os anos 2000.😒😒

[@KPOPNook]

🥲🥲🥲

[@Helios824]

Sm Entertainment still the Worst company ever exist right now

[@KPOPNook]

🥲🥲🥲

[@sweetxlies6761]

Might be false informations on twt but didn’t cbx also argue that they didn’t get any payment from their last exo comeback “cream soda”?

[@KPOPNook]

I haven't heard about that. Let's see if other viewers can provide more information on this topic. Thanks for bringing it up!

[@monsterbaek1648]

Its mistranslations the correct words is they didnt get the bonus fee from contracts renewals really hate the phrases from mistrans bcs baekhyun akgae and cbx akgae (toxic solo stan) bullying the rest of exo mems fans over that 😪😪😪

[@sweetxlies6761]

@@monsterbaek1648 Ah ok thank you for the correction.

[@yana112o92]

I remembered that lawsuit and all Cassies were confused and in denial because, THEY HECK THEY DIDN'T SUE SM TOGETHER. Oh well. (Kpop stan since 2005 here)

[@existeraiscomingover]

SM will never let any artist to grow above them . If there is any ,they would try their max to pull those group down .

[@styxroasteris]

Damn I still feel so bad for Han Geng 😭

[@amesora1553]

SME was that toxic ex lover that cannot let go their former partner even proven over and over again how wrong they were.

[@Anarion4]

This is so true.

[@roger.camargo]

Thanks for the recap. I am a fan of TVXQ since 2007, I live through those painful years, and even lately got sad whenever I saw Junsu or Jaejoong on KZbin, and how much they've sacrificed for their freedom. Despite how good they are now, financially or even in their respective carreers, I kinda resent HoMin, not too much, but they clearly ended up benefiting with fairer contracts and without the blacklisting. It is not that they don't deserve it, they sure as hell do, but it fills a little unfair. Anyway, I would die happy if I see them reunited for anything. (I always have the hope)

[@KPOPNook]

Glad you enjoyed the video! I completely understand where you're coming from. It's been a tough journey for TVXQ and their members, especially Junsu and Jaejoong, who faced many challenges for their freedom. Many fans share your hope for a reunion, and hopefully, one day we'll see them together again. Stay hopeful! 🤞🏻

[@monsterbaek1648]

Homin stay bcs they dont have strong core solo fandom like jyj have strong core solo fandom Jyj was more on money driven they want to make more money and sched they want, meanwhile yunho x changmin is pretty laid back bout money and dont mind staying tvxq to continue musics Not every mems have the same stand

[@hellenaoffic2833]

This is a very useful content for all SM fandoms

[@drkickyoface]

This exo cbx situation is so weird. There's so much suing and counter suing then "everything's fine now" then "never mind we're suing again" it's the first one of these cases where I don't know who to believe.

[@hellenaoffic2833]

4:50 all the 15 members at ryowook's wedding few days ago ❤❤❤❤

[@Rosy-ik1jt]

En la conferencia se prensa de inb100, tmb se dijo, que los CBX no se les han pagado por las recientes actividades con EXO. Tmb se olvidó mencionar que el año pasado, una de las razones x las que SM enterteiment se sentó a negociar con los CBX fué para que ellos retiraran la denuncia en la cámara de comercio justo dónde denunciaban injusticias en los contratos y se pedía la revisión de todos los contratos. Ellos la retiraron a condición de que solo pagarian el 5.5%. Cuando se levantó esa denuncia descubrieron que la SM tenia ya una advertencia de modificar los contratos de sus idols; cosa que no habían cumplido y que ahora procedian a una multa o 6 meses de cárcel al CEO x incumplimiento de la advertencia.

[@hellenaoffic2833]

Those idols might have felt like they r fighting with their own family 😢

[@miacarlany]

can you stop saying MIRROR TICK its MIROT -TIC

[@KPOPNook]

I understand your frustration, but let's try to enjoy the video without getting caught up in small details, and please appreciate our team's effort. Thanks for your understanding!

[@charestriart]

Sm going down is real.. this is so bad

[@berriewonnie]

I wish Jessica jung would have sued SM for defamation.

[@patricew.4010]

3:37 I mean you still have to be asked. Therefore its hard to prove blacklisting.

[@ShopdaMbr-mk7vm]

Why don't any fan citizens help their idols?

[@hellenaoffic2833]

JaeJoong and Tvxq ❤

[@BruhImAGirl]

All NCT members have too long lasting contracts, SM saying it's because of the military service. It doesn't make sense because it's the same for girl groups and non Korean members. It's messed up to force trainees to sign a slave contract in order to even debut. We don't even know how many former SM trainees were blacklisted, how many NDAs were signed and how many regular employees were impacted by all of this.

[@jaylee22282]

I figure a lot of other groups is going to be able to file after CBX opened up this big can of worms that they did. SM is loosing soloist left and right ! Maybe SM has just tho they could do what they wanted. Figure after the lawsuits from exo already sm wouldn’t of kept this treatment. I really hope a lot of these groups get out from sm! If SM is to loose NCT,EXO, SHINee they will go bankrupt! Heck just loosing NCT will do it and I kinda feel that’s going to happen. Kai and Taeyong going to come back from service to a empty building!

[@mxgirl918]

Man...K-fans have been saying this for years! Especially those have been following the genre since the 1st generation era. It's not a surprise to them. H.O.T, the legends and godfathers of idol groups, still can't even have a freaking reunion concert under their real group name....all because SM was and still is a b**tch. For context, their counterparts like Jinusean, Sechs Kies, god and Fly to the Sky have all had reunions and released music from 2014 to 2016. H.O.T members were on the same page about having a 20th anniversary concert in 2016. SM was really lukewarm about it and they went ahead with the concert but had to market themselves as "High Five Of Teenagers" (the meaning of the group name) instead of just "H.O.T." as they are better known as.

[@patricew.4010]

200 to 300 people is not small.....no fans is small.

[@dianaosazenaye1313]

Sue is like a tend they

[@autumnrainn23]

It’s funny people will say sm is the best company when they have the most lawsuits against them from their idols. I don’t like jyp either but at least he lets his groups leave the company with their name.

[@nigirlsamantha8888]

S~~o M~anipulated

[@sunnycrocker6016]

Soo glad my Infinite kop I doll never SM, Wollim is the best, politicians✌️

[@l_on186]

Wow sm sucks

[@sakurakitana3087]

I💜How No One Reads These Contracts Before They Sign Them!!!😩

[@pm7128]

These idols signed contract when they were teenagers. They probably were told that it was a standard contract in the industry. Also rumor was Korean music in the early were run by gangsters. If you read the story of Kim Jong Kook, he was beat up by the company's boss. He was forced to work very little to no time off.

[@user-xv6yz5wp9l]

Young talents do not have any leverage in signing the contract. If a parent starts imposing conditions, they will simply replace his child with another trainee.

[@me9981]

honestly a lot of people don't read what they sign beign that a contract or not. wherever I'm putting my signature on I'm reading that shit a few times and you're gonna wait for me. i remember i was at the bank years ago and the woman gave me the paper to sign,i was there for the first time and i was just chosing a deal or whatever...and she was like sign there. and I'm like wait I'm allowed to read this right? and she goes: uhm...of course...??? but nobody usually does. and im like mam... I'm at the bank,you have my info and I'm just a student...you bet I'm gonna read that 5 times now and you will wait patiently.😂 people actually look at you weirdly if you read shit before you sign it...i see it every day at work 🤦

[@levinadillap4358]

Not every teenager will understand and read all the documents of the contract. They probably just trust what SM will do for them in the future. And also, SM likes to force their artist to renew their contract. It happened to Sehun and Kai, even when they still going to military

[@serenityf.6234]

Well it's either 'sign that contract we give you as a teenage trainee' or 'never have a chance at becoming an idol here' what contract negotiations do you think they can do as unknown teenagers, they're super replacable to the company, SM has 1000s of people lining up for auditions sadly (not that other companies are better, some smaller companies literally physically abuse their idols which also only os discovered afterwards)...

[@aniangel07]

I always find those 'lets throw shit at sm' videos/posts problematic. not because of the content, but because ppl always hate on sm only even though its a kpop business problem as a whole. by now I think ppl are too lazy to get their facts straight and only repost what others post online so the sm hate just increases. even kpop sites jump on the sm hate train and you will see the typical 'sm is the worst company' comments increase with each post. even the 'slave contract' argument is still popular since the jyj lawsuit. by now I think ppl just want someone to throw their hate at without thinking. as for jyj, as far as I know their contracts was 10 years. but their parents strongly fought for a 13 year contract to be made. the contratcs were not nullified because of the lengths, but for other reasons. court ruled that there was no slave contract, thats why they made a settlement and agreed to a profit share. even if they could not be active for some years, they lived well just from the profits they made. so I honestly dont feel pity for them. yes, there were reason to nullify their contract, but they met a good end with the lawsuit (financially). as for the exo cbx scandal, that just a big load of bullshit to me. tbh rn I`m on sm side, because what baekhyun is doing is bullcrap and mess around with fans. first he meets with mc mong (which is a highly problematic person). when the conversation gets leaked (in wich mc mong said he wants to bring over baekhyun &kai) he suddenly dismisses purching accusions, just for exo cbx to end up under his label 1 year later. like do they think we are fcking dumb? lol

[@brennathecatlover4360]

Imagine hating on baekhyun for going to a company u think doesn’t fit him when he knows more than u. U clearly aren’t a real exol

[@aniangel07]

@@brennathecatlover4360 first of all I never stated I was an exol, which I`m not. and 2nd of all, my opinion is based on what happend so far and his&cbx behavior and the way he handles everything. he signed a contract with sm in the presence of his lawer and later he sues them for things that arent even written in the contract. thats just a load of bullshit.

[@justviewer3677]

I don’t know all the details of their dispute with SM, but Baekhyun is a slippery guy, he prepared a platform for his activities in advance, then created a scandal with the agency. And most importantly, he dragged the guys into this litigation; he needed a team for his arguments. I'm really sorry for Chen, but he's an adult who needs to think. I think Baekhyun cares about his personal career, he flirts with fans and does not hesitate to look like a clown at concerts. I'm sure EXO fans will soon realize that he actually destroyed EXO because of his greed for money, even though he has plenty of it. And more than his SM did not promote anyone, let us remember his leadership in the SuperM group and his happy face.@@aniangel07

[@RahmahNerkhan]

Chill out… They have a right to fight for what they want…… Just sit back and relax…… and what do you mean JYJ survived,,,, Do you really know what they have gone thru to reach this stage.