ALL THE ORDINARY VITAMIN C PRODUCTS: Dermatologist Review | Dr Dray

[@svogel6459]

Spoiler Alert: She hates all of them

[@at2425__]

Oof the ascorbic acid is already on the way to me. I'll give it a fair shot tho let's see if it works on me.

[@ireniamachin4085]

Haha The funniest comment!

[@debrajean743]

LOL

[@karlatamez6257]

Not surprised

[@bethfloresantonio4019]

@@at2425__ works on me!! Vitamin c suspension helps lighten my acne scars and brighten my skin..

[@Roohisingh5]

Before, my skin wasn't smooth and showed dark spots. However now, after applying this littleexetra vitamin C face serum, it all has changed. My skin feels much softer and clearer. Those dark spots have nearly gone. Now my skin looks shiny and radiant, something I really like. The best part? I do not need to apply as much makeup anymore since this serum works so well! It doesn't make me feel sticky, which is fantastic for me. The serum goes into my skin fast and does not leave any leftovers.

[@rararaspberry691]

which one?

[@Manvisharmavloggs]

So happy to give my feedback. It is 20 days and I'm noticing better glow on my face with the regular use of rice berry vitamin C face serum.

[@evac2294]

I have had really good results from The ordinary vit c powder mixed with The Ordinary's ferulic acid & resveratrol serum mixed together.

[@ayseerbil4932]

I have been using the Vit C Suspension 23% plus HA and it works very well for me; no irritation whatsoever, skin is soft and well hydrated in the morning

[@C03al]

Ok, where’s the camera? I was actually eyeing the Ascorbic acid 8% +Alpha arbutin 2% for fading my postacne marks. This is the 5th time or so that Dr. Dray posts just what I was interested in. Mindblown.

[@DrDrayzday]

thanks for watching

[@nperegri]

Right? I was interested in trying the Ordinary's vitamin C products after I got fooled by a dud. It's like she's psychic.

[@fairytale143]

Me too - i literally just bought a couple products on the list yesterday and today here's a video. What sorcery is this?!

[@beautybrains5591]

Well to be honest i used this doesnt do nothin much

[@AdventuresWithV]

I've been using it for a few months and my marks are fading BUT I'm also using licorice root extract and mandelic acid (on different days) so idk exactly how effective it is. I plan to use Labmuffin's vitamin c recipe next with TO ferulic acid so I'll be sure of the ph

[@kevinwon2683]

Ah yes my weekly reminder that I cannot afford CE Ferulic

[@annibunny5968]

hhaahah so true

[@jessicashah1519]

Lol same here🤣

[@christineo7930]

😂🤍

[@chaseypoo17]

LOL same but I got my eyebrows microbladed so I couldn't use it even if I wanted to 🥴

[@deborahb.277]

Sign up to get sale emails from Timeless and you can get their vit c product when it’s on sale. It’s pretty cheap, then.

[@adua78]

I have to say, combined with The Ordinary Resveratrol 3% Ferulic Acid 3%, the Vitamin C Suspension 23% + HA Spheres 2% has made quite a difference in my skin. I like the combo better than Timeless 20%.

[@alvirarahman2690]

Do you layer these two products?

[@Youmightwannaknowthat]

Before anyone says shes just hating, Dr. Dray went to medical school and has a PhD in Molecular Biology. Her opinion is based on cold hard facts. People should really think about who they trust more.

[@raygin6581]

I dont think its healthy to take one persons word for gospel. There are many people with chemistry phds or cosmetic regulators who often have different views than dr dray

[@wy4817]

@@raygin6581 Name one?

[@tehmaimed]

@@wy4817 lab muffin lol

[@wy4817]

@@tehmaimed She has the very same opinion which is that it might work or it might not depending on a large variety of factors? You're saying that there are PhD influencers disagreeing with science, which I have yet to see.

[@morgianasartre6709]

I just wish she would have at least actually tested some of them, not just read the list :/

[@bethfloresantonio4019]

The Ordinary vitamin c 30% suspension works on me!! I know it stings because it is too strong, but I followed the brand’s instruction: mix the suspension with a light moisturizer to lessen the strong formula, and for me I use whitening moisturizer which makes the product more effective on my skin. It’s also convenient because i can use it for a long time since i mix it with a moisturizer. Also my skin becomes luminous and brighten, and prevents my pimples from coming back.

[@fathimaf8287]

What moisturizer do you use?

[@bethfloresantonio4019]

@@fathimaf8287 right now i mix it with olay whitening moisturizing cream. Before I’m using other range from that brand because it suits well with my skin plus the ordinary vitamin c suspension. Hope it helps😉

[@fathimaf8287]

@@bethfloresantonio4019 thanks for the reply. Does it brighten your skin as the name suggest?

[@bethfloresantonio4019]

@@fathimaf8287 yeah. Not only it brightens my skin… the main reason I’m continuously using it is because it lightens my acne scars and dark spots from pimples. Also regulates my oily skin complexion.

[@bethfloresantonio4019]

@@fathimaf8287 additional benefits… vitamin c also prevents pimples and breakouts…

[@shazeedalindemann2337]

I love The Ordinary vitamin C, especially the powder which I mixed with my skin body moisturizer and I totally see a huge difference, skin is firmer and brighter. I don't use it on my face but I use the vitamin c serums and suspension 23% every morning. I have no complaints about The Ordinary, I love all the products but my skin is not delicate, doesn't get irritated easily, so I can imagine it doesn't work for everyone.

[@holdingontothelaststrawbye1365]

For people with sensitive acne prone oily skin, the ordinary's ascorbic acid 8% + alpha arbutin 2% did wonders. Just to be sure that it was only the ascorbic acid I didn't use any other products alongside ascorbic acid just a moisturizer. I've tried a korean vit c serum that had 21% vit c in it and it burned my skin, I've tried other vit c serums but it either caused irritation or burned my skin. This is my personal experience .

[@itsme_shanti]

Thanks for letting us know.

[@toseefmushtaq32]

Thanks I hv been asking everyone I want to order it today it’s sale in my country and I hv oily skin so I ordering now hope it will work for me too

[@toseefmushtaq32]

Thanks I hv been asking everyone I want to order it today it’s sale in my country and I hv oily skin so I ordering now hope it will work for me too

[@pajamamama5965]

This was interesting. For anyone who has sensitive skin and wants brightening and lightening of pigmentation, I have been using the ascorbic acid 8%/arbutin successfully by adding in a drop of the ordinary resveratrol/ferulic acid product. That acts as a preservative. There is no ph, since it is in a solvent, so actually you can apply it on damp skin. My bottle has lasted quite a while and I am getting great results. It doesn't worsen my acne either. My skin experiences no irritation with it unlike other ascorbic acid I have tried. Hope that helps someone

[@keanifer]

Whew, there’s a lot of misinformation here. 1. Ok so the resveratrol + ferulic acid serum does not work as a preservative. 2. Both serums are anhydrous and propanediol based. This is why there are no pH values quoted, as for something to have a pH, it needs to be in an aqueous solution. 3. The anhydrous nature of both the ascorbic + alpha arbutin and resveratrol + ferulic acid serums mean that they do not require a preservative. Only formulations that include water as an ingredient or are expected to come into contact with water actually need a preservative system to ward off microbial growth. 4. The ascorbic acid is happily stable in the propanediol based serum and needs nothing added to increase stability / reduce potential of oxidation. 5. Finally, I hope you have not mixed the serums in the bottles as that’s not what they are designed for. Instead just apply a few drops of each to your palm each time to combine before applying to your face etc.

[@pajamamama5965]

@@keanifer Thank you for your thoughtful response. I am aware that both products are anhydrous and have no ph, although when it hits damp skin, it combines with the water to form a very low ph, approximately 1.5 to 3. When I used the word preservative, I was referring to the mechanism within the skin which is complex and difficult to describe in layman's terms. Simply put, the ferulic acid increases efficacy of the ascorbic acid in the antioxidant properties for the skin. The ascorbic acid is stable in the propanedial long term, longer than an aqueous solution. I have seen excellent results in my own skin with this combination

[@Skirkly]

That is a good idea mixing (not in the same bottle) those two. I wonder if you can mix the 30% in silicone with the reservatrol/ferulic acid product and get results?

[@marieJennell]

@@keanifer so if the vit c doesn't get absorbed into the skin does it still help putting it under sunscreen ? To help to absorb some of the suns rays like sunscreen does? Or does it have to b absorbed into the skin the correct way in order to help out with using it as a way to kinda boost sunscreen

[@angelinebiswas7611]

love that one!

[@lindabruce2295]

Dr Dray, I loved this review. And, while I agree with you about the efficacy of Skinceuticals CE Ferulic, it is just so bloody expensive and not really affordable for many people. If you ever have the inclination it would be great to hear your review of other well-formulated Vitamin C products, such as Timeless, Geek and Gorgeous, Maelove, etc.

[@gk4539]

She only recommends skinceuticals, cheaper products don’t work.

[@BriseisMusic]

@@gk4539 The thing you have to remember with Dr. Dray is she loves products with data from clinical trials. Before I go on, it's one of the reasons why I love watching her. 🙂 I don't always agree though! Skinceuticals is the only vitamin C serum that has the kind of data our good doctor likes, so it's understandable that's the only one she would really promote, especially considering vitamin C has a few parameters for it to actually work. However, I'm more in agreement with other dermatologists in that other vitamin C products also work. Dr. Dray is more of the "show me the data that it actually works" rather than go by personal testimonies.

[@dclaet1135]

@@BriseisMusic I love the Timeless vitamin c serum, which Hot and Flashy recommends.

[@dinikrasniqi4541]

I use The Ordinary Tetrahexyldecyl Ascorbate in winter time because I have oily acne prone skin. This really makes my skin beautiful! Clear, fewer pigment spots. Pharmaceutical researcher Ben Fughs is very pleased with the form of vitamin C. By the way, I don't understand why you criticize all The ordinary products! This is the only brand that really gives me results! Some friends of mine use The Ordinary's Magnesium Ascorbyl Phosphate Vitamin C Serum and their skin is absolutely beautiful!

[@MrLutens]

I've been using the Suspension 23% plus HA, and the difference that it has done on my skin is simply mind blowing...

[@Julie-xj1tu]

Thank you. I agree I love their products 😍

[@nerminet.4564]

Yes same here

[@arfiandeny6440]

Yeah same. It doesn't really cause irritation for me too. I hate the texture and the smell but it brings some results so I still use it.

[@junxu4438]

@@arfiandeny6440 You can mix the suspension with their acid product, that will get rid of the grittiness, and the acids are formulated at the right pH for vitamin c. The ordinary formulated the vitamin c without water for its stability, there's no pH because there is no water. I would expect a doctor to know what pH is, but... I mix the 23% vitamin c suspension with their 5% lactic acid, this gives me the optimal concentration and pH for vitamin c.

[@asi5555]

@@junxu4438 Thank you for mentioning this! The solution should be aqueous to have a pH! What is your opinion about mixing vitamin C suspension with their (3% resveratrol+3% ferulic acid) ?

[@whatnext715]

I always appreciate hearing your take on products and appreciate the level (and quality) of evidence you look for before recommending a product. I was confused by some of you concerns re: the ordinary’s ascorbic acid products, particularly your concern that they don’t list the ph. All their ascorbic acid formulations are waterless. I thought ph only applied to formulations with water? It’s been decades since I was in a chemistry class so I may be misunderstanding. Thanks

[@marylawman8603]

The few times I've tried products containing Vitamin C, they broke me out so bad I gave up. Wasn't worth it to me. Appreciate your review and your honesty, Dr Dray. Happy Monday!! Hope you have a nice evening. 💙

[@AchaiCooks]

I use the ascorbic acid + alpha arbutin for my hyperpigmentation. I was shocked at how fast it lightened the dark spots. I made sure to take pics during the journey too. Though, once I’m done with it and satisfied with where I am I’ll be looking for a different vitamin c serum.

[@My6lvs]

What order do you use them?

[@AchaiCooks]

@@My6lvs The serum is formulated with both! So I cleanse with Cerave SA cleanser, dry off apply the serum and then spf moisturizer.

[@My6lvs]

@@AchaiCooks thank you I have a spot on my face that’s going to be the death of me. It bothers me so much that I’m scheduled to see if I can get a Lazer treatment to help it

[@AchaiCooks]

@@My6lvs Dark spots are the worse! It takes a second to aggravate a pimple and you’re stuck with the aftermath for months, even years if not treated. Good luck 🥰

[@Coco.coco.c]

Hi! I use ascorbic acid +alpha arbutin and the same cleaner as you, do you use them everyday? Twice a day?

[@annrankin2977]

The one she recommends is $166! Who can pay that..? I’ve used the ordinary vitamin c and have seen an improvement in my skin.

[@itsme_shanti]

If it ain't broken, don't fix it.

[@oliviasmith7044]

True, but in a previous video, she recommended Cerave vitamin c. Those two were, skin ceuticals and cerave were the two she recommended. I’m using the cerave. Very inexpensive. It’s the video called cerave vitamin c serum review.

[@itsme_shanti]

@@oliviasmith7044 Hotandflashy Angie did a Vitamin C ph. Test. Check it out.

[@happyphenomenal3887]

Which ordinary vitamin c you used?

[@dclaet1135]

There is no way that I would pay that much! Does she think that we all make her salary?

[@debrajean743]

Timeless 20% Vit C (l-ascorbic acid), Ferulic Acid and Vit E girl here. In an air tight container and lasts forever if you put it in the frig. When I become a millionaire I will buy the Skinceuticals lol.

[@meggieprice]

I use it too- wish she would review it!

[@thistlecreek1]

Me three.

[@808statelady]

Retired Esthetician here. Timeless is an excellent alternative to the pricy skinsuticles Vit C..affordable and does the job. !

[@thistlecreek1]

@@808statelady thanks for chiming in.

[@meggieprice]

@@808statelady Thanks for this!

[@mariannewm26]

I've been using the ascorbic acid + alpha arbutin for about a year and have def seen a difference in PIE and have never seen it oxidize at all! 🙂

[@naightengale101]

It's in the mail for me. All the reviews online and from persons commenting here are positive.

[@luigilove254]

What does the serum smell like to you and do you find it oily??

[@mariannewm26]

@@luigilove254 I don't get any smell from it, and it feels kind of like a dry oil going on, but I find it dries down pretty quickly!

[@luigilove254]

@@mariannewm26 hmm I get a sweet, metallic smell from this serum and I find it too oily, doesn't absorb into my skin at all. How many drops do you use btw?

[@mariannewm26]

@@luigilove254 oh interesting! I use 4 drops for the face, neck, and chest

[@moose8762]

I agree with this completely. The "suspensions" and powder are the worst. Very irritating, lots of stinging. And the ones in a propanediol vehicle break me out. The Ordinary would have been better off working on one decent vitamin C formula like timeless or geek & gorgeous

[@DrDrayzday]

yeah, i think consumers are getting more informed about vit C and now brands will have to put more effort in to creating vit C products

[@maha.1655]

@@DrDrayzday are their any vit c serums you swore by ? What do you think about keihls vit c concentrate?

[@mmg0429]

@@maha.1655 She rarely reviews Vitamin C serums because of the reasons stated in this video, however she just reviewed Regimenlab Vitamin X Serum and she really enjoyed it. It is a third of the price of SkinCeuticals with even more beneficial ingredients. Also, LOTS of people swear by Timeless Vitamin C. Dr. Dray has never reviewed it but it's probably the most popular and affordable alternative to SkinCeuticals.

[@sherryg1838]

@Joseph Berg According to the cosmetic chemists on The Beauty Brains podcast, it will not be effective. When people do DIY at home, they aren’t able to formulate it effectively. I tried it, and it didn’t work. And Dr Dray addresses the powder in the video.

[@khan-pakhtun]

But they are expensive :/

[@job7604]

i love watching your product videos even if i have no intention of buying these products, thank you for taking your time to make these videos! they’re so informative. i always look to hear your opinion on products before buying skincare :)

[@itsme_shanti]

This review is very misleading. The Ordinary Vitamin C products would not be so in demand if they didn't work. Everyone has different experiences with products, that doesn't make those products bad.

[@KairyMarquez]

Hey Dr. Dray, what about the Complete Skin Solutions C E Ferulic? It was recommended by another Doc here on KZbin but I’d like your opinion on it please. Thanks.

[@ItsAlicein]

Happy Monday everyone! Hope you all are having a good week. Also, I promise I didn't forget my SPF today, Dr. Dray!

[@DrDrayzday]

Morning!

[@nadab4750]

👱‍♀️❤

[@marizzy63]

Enjoy your day 😃

[@sarapereira26]

Oh the vitamin C.. i already know this is going to be funny xD

[@DrDrayzday]

thanks for watching :)

[@janellgarcia4171]

My thoughts also haha

[@lukegnanapragasam9070]

🤣

[@anum3702]

Dr u have huge fan base across the world ❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏

[@DrDrayzday]

thanks for watching

[@taimooralibukhari]

You just listen to ppl like these and never speak in front of them when they have Doctorate. This was my first derma video subd channel and im glad to say that her every opinion and and suggestion worked the way it should. Based of scientific data and her knowledge. GG Dr

[@db-gb5xi]

If anyone's seen Dr Idriss' video on vit c, she doesn't care for ascorbyl glucoside either (unstable) and she doesn't like ascorbyl palmitate (unstable and a total waste of money).

[@mashaa.7509]

I didnt know thanks for sharing!! U know its real when both of them agree lol

[@elisabeth6554]

The after photo is clearly just a retouched version of the before photo. Compare the eyelashes, they're identical.

[@MsOoglyBoo]

I noticed same thing. How do they get away with this deception?

[@sarahmunson1778]

Plus everything in the picture is lighter and blurred. They couldn't be more obvious.

[@ayceleijae]

Yep and same exact reflection in the eye

[@meganNefarious]

Yeah I'm actually surprised she used that pic..

[@lavayuki]

The 23% one burned my skin, it was horrible and stung badly. The 30% one didn't irritate but stung my skin and and was horrible in texture. My favourites were the 15% ethylated ascorbic acid and the 8% ascorbic with alpha arbutin, both no stinging or irritation.

[@memoonasaeed4408]

I am amazed how much talented this lady is 💗

[@_xiaotin8490]

Happy Monday!!

[@DrDrayzday]

Happy Monday!

[@amandag.5044]

The Vitamin c Suspension HA surprisingly worked well for me despite how weird it feels, specifically for hyperpigmentation and a bit more collagen bounce.

[@noneofurbusiness5223]

I love 💘 it. Especially in summer. I have oily skin.

[@filzar7625]

what time of day do you use it?

[@amandag.5044]

@@filzar7625 morning

[@mchampagne]

Oh I'm early today! I was just finishing watching your vlog from yesterday, Dr Dray! Hope you're having a great Monday!

[@DrDrayzday]

Happy Monday!

[@sulee7306]

Dr Dray, because you like Costco so much, how about reviewing Costco skincare that is sold online as well as at the warehouse, like kakadu vit C with E and ferulic acid.

[@stephlandis6073]

Hi!!! I’ve never been so early! I’ve been waiting for the new video!! ❤️ I was wondering… will a stronger retinol be better for aging skin? Showing more results? Also would love to see more hair care videos! Thanks Dr. Dray!!!

[@DrDrayzday]

no, stronger is not better

[@nadab4750]

👱‍♀️❤

[@stephlandis6073]

@@DrDrayzday thank you so much!!! I’m binge watching all your content ❤️

[@gk4539]

Not stronger, but consistent

[@stephlandis6073]

@@gk4539 thanks😊

[@rorilee9791]

I don't know how many comments you read, but I would just like to tell you THANK YOU for all of your recommends! I recently bought (I'm 51, and have dry, sun damaged skin) Aquanil and DML Forte. They both feel SO good!

[@KetoKatz]

Happy Monday beautiful people!! Have a blessed week everyone 🌹💝

[@DrDrayzday]

You too!!

[@nadab4750]

👱‍♀️❤

[@marizzy63]

Happy Monday 😊😃

[@SmallBizGeekUK]

For those complaining of stinging and burning with vit c - have you considered using Azelaic acid for a few months before introducing the vit C? This is what I have done and I'm not seeing any adverse effects whatsoever from The Ordinary 23% product

[@maricelg777]

Happy Monday, Dray 🤍🌸

[@DrDrayzday]

Happy Monday!

[@thebeautysurfer]

I had really good results with the last one. Specially as an antioxidant. It works wonders on my skin. The Ethilated 15%

[@imperialchalice]

I use the vitaminc c 23% w/ HA spheres, and though it does have a brightening effect - you are right. It's more like a heavy duty moisturizer. I use it at night, beneath my usual moisturizer. And I wake up less dry (I have oily skin). And I admit: it. is. very irritating. Contrary to what one might think, it hurts less when I exfoliate before application, or you can mitigate the burning/stinging sensation by immediately applying moisturizer - but you should haven't to do that with a product that is intended for daily use. So. I'm switching once I finish it :)) Glad I found this video.

[@missjackierussell]

I use the Skinceuticals and have been pleased with it so far....didn't like the price, but didn't want to pay for a product that didn't have the data behind it and this was the only one I found, as far a the Vitamin C absorption. Thank you for sharing.

[@noneofbusiness7739]

How long have you used it?

[@missjackierussell]

@@noneofbusiness7739 only for a few weeks, but I can already see brightening in my skin, it only takes like a couple of drops to cover your face and neck.

[@angelacrowder6127]

Happy Monday Dr Dray!

[@DrDrayzday]

Happy Monday!

[@nadab4750]

👱‍♀️❤

[@celestema2506]

I am a big fan of Allies of Skin vit c serums. They're not cheap, and I use the 20% in summer and 35% in winter. It was actually my first time using vit c and I saw clear brightening on my face. My face used to be so much darker than my neck, after a bottle, I saw the face brightening up. I wish there were more affordable alternatives, but my understanding is that vit c is difficult to formulate, thus the high cost. I'm really happy with Allies of Skin and will be sticking to it.

[@db-gb5xi]

Dr Shereene Idriss recommends that one.

[@aarontheabc]

The reason why Ascorbic Acid 8% + Alpha Arbutin 2%, Vitamin C Suspension 23% + HA Spheres 2% and Vitamin C Suspension 30% in Silicone don't have a pH listed is because they are water-less formulas. You can't test for pH levels in products without water. Regarding the other Vitamin C's, very valid criticisms. Skinceuticals just isn't an option for everyone ❤️👏

[@claudiaSBG5520]

CE Ferulic made my face burn, also the Paula's Choice booster. I think it's not the product but the percentage. More than 10% of vitamin c is a no no for me, doesn't matter the brand

[@stephm4047]

Yes obviously, but Dr Dray seems to have skipped the chemistry class. 🤣🤣🤣

[@aznblingbling]

That's what I was thinking, and also the reason why they are stable and not prone to oxidize

[@DrDrayzday]

@@stephm4047 no water in aquaphor ointment and it has a pH of 6.82 jddonline.com/articles/dermatology/S1545961612P0633X

[@bethfloresantonio4019]

Vitamin c 30% suspension works on me!! I mix it with a whitening moisturizer as the brand’s suggestion to lessen the tingling effects on skin, and also beneficial for my acne scars and prevention of pimples, plus brighten my skin.

[@user-broccolishishi]

Love Dr.Dray’s video but you overlooked ascorbic acid+alpha arbutin, because the solution is waterless, it’s not gonna be oxidized in the bottle and become useless, the draw back is that it takes longer to feel absorbed and has oily feeling to it.

[@prabjot2832]

TO Ascorbic Glucoside solution 12% has done wonders to my skin! Everyone skin is different though

[@soojunglee425]

Yay! Vitamin C with TO. I really wanted this video.

[@DrDrayzday]

Hope you like it!

[@unapologeticallyamy9031]

Thank you for properly pronouncing ascorbic and letting me know I’ve sounded like a ding bat for 20 years by saying *asorbic* 🤦‍♀️ I worked in the body care and skin care industry for years. I helped people choose products based on their needs. I know enough about the properties of different ingredients to really help someone take great care of themselves but apparently I don’t know how to pronounce ascorbic. No one ever corrected me and I stupidly thought the C was silent 🤦‍♀️ at least I could pronounce jojoba oil. I used to giggle inside when people would pronounce the j’s when saying jojoba. I wonder if anyone ever giggled at me saying ASORBIC 🤦

[@tasmint4849]

You're not the only one lol. Tbh the way it's written, it's not stupid to pronounce it like that 😂

[@AchaiCooks]

😂 aww

[@whitepaper5241]

I've always pronounced Ascorbic, Askorbik. But i used to pronounce jojoba with j. We live in a different country, though, and English is not my first language.

[@hithere8140]

This was me too up until last year when I got into skincare. Funny thing is Ive heard people, professionals too pronounce it wrong which is why I thought it was fine. Then I thought it could be pronounced both ways.

[@noellecastillo3087]

lol I've done the same thing

[@luisa146]

Uhm but... How can ascorbic acid have a pH if it's dissolved in a non-acqueous solvent, like silicon or squalane? Of course they don't tell you the pH, it doesn't have one! I don't know what happens to it in the skin, if the ascorbic acid changes phase or something, but you can't say the product is bad because they don't mention it's pH if it doesn't have a pH because there's no water in the formula

[@lynseyallan387]

Dr Dray, would love you thoughts on what vitamin C should / should not be used at the same time. Seems to be so much conflicting information here. Thank you 💕

[@DrDrayzday]

good idea

[@sciadredan5410]

@@DrDrayzday I'd love a review of By Wishtrend's vitamin C serum!

[@lynseyallan387]

❤️

[@Sophielearning2023]

Thanks Dr Dray, I really need this information. It seems that, there is No effective vitamin C in the market. I am also skeptic about Skin ceuticals CE Ferulic because of their dropper and jar packaging. I prefer find a good anti-oxidant product for my skin.

[@yudithperez8623]

Thank you for this video, I have rosacea and always want to try vitamin C but also afraid of everything at the same time. I really appreciate your reviews!

[@DrDrayzday]

thanks for watching

[@nadab4750]

Have your tried azelaic acid for your rosacea, rather than vitamin C? In some countries it's available over- the-counter (in chemist/drug stores, some prescription only. 👱‍♀️❤

[@giorgianaciocan8491]

Thank you! In Europe we have the "geek and gorgeous c-glow serum" with vitamin E, ferulic and 15% vitamin C. Can you give a review to it? It will be much appreciated.

[@db-gb5xi]

No BS Beauty is a fan of that line. Doctor Anne (germany) has reviewed this line.

[@anaana-ze8rd]

I'd like that too. I prefer vitamin C over Niacinamide. Niacinamide dried out my skin and made it more wrinkled. Don't get the hype :/.

[@mushy470]

the minimum purchase for free shipping is £50 and if you spend less than that, its absurdly high at around £25. It doesn't make sense to buy a £10 Serum and then sooo much on shipping, so I'll probably end up spending £50. I'm not really interested in their other products though and I can't buy more than 1 vitamin c in advance or it'll oxidise. I really want to try the c glow but I don't really think it's a cheap option. How have people found a way around this?

[@Catb3333]

The thing with Dr Dray is that... She is a derm, and at the end of the day she feels kinda uncomfortable recommending unstable ingredients in formulas that weren't tested in clinical trials. Many other influencers will tell you they like it, and probably it works for you! Itsnjust that, as a derm, she only trusts proven formulas when it comes to unstable ingredients (hence why she only recommends Skinceuticals for Vitamin C)

[@natgl11]

I've tried it and loved it! but it does go off very quickly. if you buy it, I recommend also purchasing the small empty bottle that they sell. that way you can keep the regular bottle in the fridge for refilling the smaller one (holds about a week's worth of product), which you can keep in your bathroom or wherever you do your skincare. I've tried a couple of the ordinary's vitamin c products (I only liked the one with alpha arbutin), but I definitely prefer the one from geek and gorgeous. overall the brand is great, I've also tried their super gentle exfoliator (if I remember correctly it's called calm down and has pha) and their hydrating toner and really enjoyed both. I definitely want to try more of their products! edit: I forgot I also tried their jelly cleanser and niacinamide! they were ok products but forgettable haha the cleanser is very gentle, feels a bit like the cerave hydrating one. the niacinamide feels similar to the ordinary's, but it's less drying and doesn't foam up on the skin or pill with other products.

[@blakeriverss]

Morning Dr. Dray!

[@DrDrayzday]

Morning!

[@MariyaMagija]

There were two studies in the mid 00's that tested 5% sodium ascorbyl phosphate as a possible acne treatment. The studies were somewhat limited, but it performed better than BP and on par with .2% retinol. I wonder whatever happened since, because I haven't come across any products with SAP marketed towards acne prone skin. Most of the hype is around questionable vitamin C formulations for skin brightening and rejuvenation.

[@sara_387]

Yes, I’ve read the same thing...that SAP may have some antibacterial action against acne. But to be honest I haven’t read those studies. Ironically I have seen some brands use other vitamin c derivatives in their acne serum even though they have an anti-aging serum with SAP.

[@MariyaMagija]

@@sara_387 The marketing is often confusing. Whenever brands’ websites have the “shop by concern” feature, I usually find what I need in the least expected places.

[@fareloz]

3:32 Whaaat? Vitamin C is in silicone, why do we need ferulic acid or vitamin E there "to stabilize it"? Also, how are you gonna measure pH of product with no water? Looks like someone was not prepared for the topic to talk

[@steamboatbillywilly]

I was wondering if you could do a short video about cuticles? It seems to be widely accepted that pushing back or cutting cuticles is good for you. But when I was a kid and didn't even know what cuticles were, I pushed them back on only one of my hands, and my fingers were inflamed for years before I figured out why. I can't fathom what it would be like to go get a manicure and get them trimmed routinely.

[@DrDrayzday]

good idea

[@sarapereira26]

I used to get my cuticles trimmed at the nail salon.. im glad i do my own nails now i never mess with my cuticles anymore! Great video idea :)

[@db-gb5xi]

If you check her video on brittle nails she covers cuticles in that one as well.

[@charb9719]

This video has been long awaited! Happy Monday!

[@DrDrayzday]

thanks for watching!

[@shirleyyl1826]

Dr., you just broke my heart. I just started The Ordinary and expecting more products on the way. Dilemma dilemma...😔

[@celolivo2186]

This is extremely helpful! Thank you so much for educating us Dr. Dray

[@latherandlace]

Thanks for making this all less confusing and I hope you have a great day!

[@davidfletcher4449]

Dr. Dray. Do brands ever come at you after you've reviewed their products?

[@jessy2280]

I wish they would 😂 she’d tear their ass up… again 😂

[@gk4539]

Only good ones

[@christam8183]

Very clear presentation. Thx, Dr Dray!

[@helenb7559]

I used the 30% suspension on my hands and it worked great 👍

[@Julie-xj1tu]

I love their products my skin has never been better and I find most dermatologist have bias toward the ordinary due to price I have 4 of those products and they're great. Lol.

[@itsme_shanti]

Cassandra bankson uses the Ascorbic Acid 8%, and she's an esthetician. Dray is saying she doesn't like it but she's never used it. And the formulation is designed to not oxidize.

[@enakshi8729]

Happy Monday Dr Dray ❤

[@DrDrayzday]

Happy Monday!

[@UncleCharlie111x2]

You stay so well informed great job on your information presentation Dray!!!!

[@marizzy63]

Happy Monday uncle Charlie 😃🌷🌻🌸

[@nadab4750]

👱‍♀️❤

[@nadab4750]

@@marizzy63 👱‍♀️❤

[@marizzy63]

@@nadab4750 👍🌷😎

[@UncleCharlie111x2]

@@marizzy63 happy Monday thanks! 🌸🌻☀️😁

[@helvidia2181]

omg hahahah Dr Dray does not hate the ordinary!! she reads dermatology papers everyday and she has been working in the field for years! She is not saying that the products are bad or that they don't work, she simply is explaining that the formulas are not backed up by tests and studies. Dr Dray is a derm so she is only going to be recommending things that are stable, well studied and well researched.

[@tonyj4271]

happy Monday enjoy xo

[@DrDrayzday]

You too!!

[@marizzy63]

Enjoy your day 😃

[@WoodlandT]

I used a whole bottle of the 8% with alpha arbutin. While I cannot say I noticed any change in my skin, the serum remained clear throughout the entire time I had the bottle. So, if that is the indicator of oxidation, it did not happen with my bottle. But again, I saw no change in my skin. So what does it matter really? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Katherine-qo1gj]

Ever since Dr. Dray mentioned the bot comments, that’s all I see now 😮

[@ala7879]

i know for a fact Cassandra cries every time Dr. Dray posts a “The Ordinary” video. 😂

[@cmoran6590]

I use garden of wisdom 23% vit c with ferulic acid and my skin loves it. I think it has 69% of the same Ingredients as C E Ferulic at only £10 a bottle (bargain). I've tried TO in the past and totally agree with Dr Dray.

[@kerryhowarth9]

Hey, Dr Dray!! Happy Monday 😊♥️

[@DrDrayzday]

Happy Monday!

[@kerryhowarth9]

@@DrDrayzday 😊😊♥️

[@whitneybrown4067]

Greetings Kerry Howarth hope u r well n Happy Monday😀👍💜....

[@kerryhowarth9]

Thank you so much @@whitneybrown4067 hope you have a great day too ♥️😊

[@nadab4750]

👱‍♀️❤

[@asldkjfagsh456]

Hi Andrea! I would love to see a video about how to manage acne while on antidepressants or medication that can cause acne. (SSRIs)

[@DrReedB0928]

You motivated me to get some bath and body works candles yesterday! Love them. Have a great day Dr Dray and peeps ❤️ 🌹💕🥳☀️🎇☕

[@DrDrayzday]

i love my candles!

[@nadab4750]

👱‍♀️❤

[@nadab4750]

Still waiting for the Dr Dray candle range! 👱‍♀️❤

[@DrReedB0928]

@@DrDrayzday me too 🕯

[@whitneybrown4067]

Greetings Nada B hope u r well n Happy Monday😀👍💜....

[@angelachristina]

Happy Monday and a good week everyone! ☺️

[@chrislynn9666]

I feel like Dr. Dray’s not responding to so many comments saying ‘what about Timeless?’ speaks volumes and reminds me of the video where she said it was frustrating when people always asked “what about The Ordinary/ Paula’s Choice?”. Just saying.

[@karlatamez6257]

Yes i remember and i think she said that it gave her the feeling that maybe a lot of those comments could actually be from people that work for the brands because of the insistence

[@roses7018]

Dr.Dray thank you again for another candid & informative product review. This review has prevented me from wasting my time & money & in avoiding probable unwanted irritation.

[@paulinesvisuals]

I've been using the powder for over a year and I really like it. I'm on my 3rd jar. I've never had any problems. I just use 1/4 of the spoon that's provided and mix it with Alpha Arbutin.

[@melanie.3837]

Unfortunately, I have had no luck with skinceuticals, Timeless or any of the "recommended" vitamin CE, ferulic acid products. No matter how I use it, I wind up with irritation, bumps, itchiness, pain, etc. I just started The Ordinary Vitamin C Suspension 23% + HA and alternate with Olay vitamin C. Although neither are doctor recommended products, my skin can tolerate it. My hope is that using these products may help my skin build up a tolerance to eventually return to the vitamin CE, ferulic acid products.

[@louiegraphy]

You just read my mind. I needed this video. 💛

[@DrDrayzday]

thanks for watching

[@whitneybrown4067]

Greetings louiegraphy hope u well n Happy Monday😀👍💜....

[@francescadulash3511]

Hey everyone I had been using one of these Vit C's. Not anymore! I've just seen the Ordinary now advise not to mix peptides & any of their acids. I've been using buffet, niacinmide & argiriline with their Vit C and AHAs since it came out! Acids day, peptides night now.

[@EstherMaraite]

New (not recommended) drinking game - take a shot every time Dr Dray says I can't be confident or I can't recommend in this video. You'll need 3 days to sober up ;)

[@JD-xd4sy]

I use the Vitamin C in silicone and mix it with ferulic acid (also from The Ordinary) and my serum before that application contains Vitamin E. Voila!

[@kyliessave8454]

I'm here early. Happy Monday, Dr. Andrea!

[@DrDrayzday]

Happy Monday!

[@UniversalGirl4]

So I have used the Ascorbyl glucoside but with their Ferulic Acid serum as well. With these two combined I have seen a difference in my skin. To Each Their Own.

[@secretpulsar]

Hey. Someone else in the comments mentioned this, do u layer them on the skin, or do u mix them first and then apply?

[@UniversalGirl4]

@@secretpulsar hi, I actually just use the dropper for both. First I put on the Ascorbyl glucoside then I drip 4 drops (2 on each cheek) of the Ferulic Acid on right after then I blend all together. I have done in in my hand before but I just prefer the other way. I also use 4 drops instead of the 2-3 that is recommended of the Ferulic because I have a bigger face. Beware though, the Ferulic especially is very oily. It does dry down over time.

[@secretpulsar]

@@UniversalGirl4 Thanks so much! Why doesn't TO just combine these products. They could charge a little more for it I wouldn't mind. But again, thanks!

[@UniversalGirl4]

@@secretpulsar Well the ordinary is more of a customizable skin care routine brand. At firs they only had the two pure VitC serums and it was marketed to use with either you improve results. Now you can use it with any of the other ones. I have not tried it but Wishtrend has a VitC serum with Ferulic Acid the is in the 20ish range.

[@minamoon1426]

can you give recommendations on effective vitamin c serums that are affordable?

[@808statelady]

Please try Timeless, affordable and productive, checks all the necessary boxes to be affective..an excellent alternative. Retired Esthetician, Ingredient list junkie educated here.😍

[@LoveConquersAll888]

Thank u so much for the time stamp. Really appreciate u

[@ryleyhughes]

I was literally just looking for a video on this and now I have buyers remorse 😭

[@Julie-xj1tu]

Well don't. I actually love their products and my skin has never been better.

[@itsme_shanti]

Everyone has different experiences using the Vitamin C products and many have seen great results. So you can continue using the products as she suggests with the Ferulic Acid, and see if it makes a difference.

[@enjoythesilence303]

Dr Dray, as a researcher myself, I have to say, that you should take in consideration that Vit C in its deravtive forms have been used and are recommanded a lot to POC patients. In addtion, as you may know, research has never took them into account espacially in the derm sector. So saying there is no research out there (or only in Petri dish) that show their its efficacy, then why not mentionning all the Derm collegues or MD's using derivatives with their patients POC? It would get rid of the invisbility of POC in derm research, and talk about real and acutal patients using Vit C derivatives (and how they appreciate-or not their products). I beleive this would definitely offer a broader spectrum of the knowledge developed and updated data about this particular compound (sorry french is my first langage). Thanks again for the presentation, always super interesting :-)

[@DrDrayzday]

none of my colleagues use these in POC. I just attended a symposium led by experts in treating skin of color, and there was no mention of using these

[@linnybee8000]

I've never heard you talk about the Timeless Vitamin C + E + Ferulic Acid, but I haven't been watching you for very long. Have you done a video which included Timeless?? That's what I use and I love the delivery system. xo~linda

[@meggieprice]

I am so wanting her to review them!

[@DG-hg1kd]

Dr.Dray has gone a long way..I would like to hear The Ordinary refuting her comments on each of those VIT C items. dr.Dray is absolutely right…I appreciate her courage and honesty..Thanks, Dr.Dray!!Q!

[@itsme_shanti]

I've seen her recommend Vitamin C products that Hotandflashy Angie showed has no Vitamin c content. So just like other influencers , I take everything she says with a pinch of salt.

[@noneofbusiness7739]

I’ve never met an Ordinary product that worked. Thanks

[@DrDrayzday]

they definitely have same flops

[@marizzy63]

Happy Monday dr Dray and everyone. Hope you all had a great 4th . Thanks again for this video. Vitamin C is a no go for my skin. Have a fabulous day love to mom and Tybee 🥰😃🌻🌻🌻

[@whitneybrown4067]

Greetings Mary Ann Gonzalez hope u r well n Happy Monday😀👍💜....

[@nadab4750]

👱‍♀️❤

[@Aj33_]

Dr Dray is the 🐐

[@DrDrayzday]

thanks for watching!

[@Clanahan12]

I don't doubt the Dr s knowledge here, but doesn t retinol also need two steps to be converted to retinoic acid?