Allis Chalmers 190xt series 3, Pulling a 3 shank Allis subsoiler.

[@deanmeyer1815]

I got a taste of that excitement at the plow day this year. It definitely was a handful! Ride’m cowboy!

[@TimothyFluegel]

@@deanmeyer1815 lol alot of people have enjoyed that tractor over the years that's for sure

[@acdiesel7439]

Lol, nice video. The ole 301 sounds nice. Just something about a 190xt. Happy Thanksgiving.

[@TimothyFluegel]

I couldn't agree more. Happy Thanksgiving to you too!!

[@jwagner607]

Nice job with the sub-soiler !

[@TimothyFluegel]

Thankyou!!

[@garybarrett-q8p]

Hi Tim we ran a straight 190 on a one shank subsoiler on 10 acres this fall we try to do itevery fall weather permitting but this year it pulled the hardest stopping the 190 if you werent careful we ran it clear in and every 40 inches also ran one on my D17 too was a lot of fun but took better part of two days to finish and i put a full tank of gas threw D17 missed you this fall watched your Gleaner run beans would like to see Frankie on a chisel l will be wachin!!!!

[@TimothyFluegel]

Ahh Franky.... that's actually a sore subject right now. I found out that peak antifreeze is no good. Mixed 50/50 and it froze in the block and cracked it 😔. I thought I might have messed something up when I tested the atifreeze and it was only good to 25° but my friend Ted said he did the save thing with peak brand.... it's junk. I definitely lard a hard lesson to test your new antifreeze. But don't worry. I've got a block hunted down. Who have it running next stunner. Maybe over the winter here if the Buda projects go as planned. I have the 45d block back in a week or so. And waiting for the head on dad d19 D. Should have that within a week or so too. I Eben managed to find new main and rod bearings!!! It sure is fun time Pulling that subsoiler lol I don't ever get to work the old 190 and it was nice to get it out to stretch its legs like that lol. It sounds like your old 17 was thirsty that day lol. Imagine feeding a gas 190 for a couple days of that 😆

[@garybarrett-q8p]

Thanks for l r up date always like texting you sad for Franky but l know you don't give up that ease will be watching for Frank's resurrection!!!!

[@eugeneeveland7977]

your tach works just as good as mine

[@TimothyFluegel]

Lol 😆 I think it's an Allis thing. Who needs a working tach weened ya got the engine screaming at ya telling you were it's at 😆. Thanks for watching and commenting!!!

[@robertscheel4468]

Pulled a three shank subsoiler with gauge wheels 16 inches deep with 806 diesel wide front central Wisconsin soil 3 low all-day long

[@TimothyFluegel]

Once I got this one shined up 2nd low was just fine. Especially in the field where it wasn't packed from years of heavy equipment. Lol. And if your like most red guys I know, I'll bet that 806 is cranking around 130hp or so? 😆 I know them things will pull the house down with a little pump work. I've got my eye out for a gauge wheel setup for this one. That would make it pretty nice.

[@RJ1999x]

Better get a new tape measure

[@ralphross2357]

That's when you go half the depth and the go full depth on a second pass. I worked putting in field tile. When the ground was hard or frozen, it would take two passes.

[@TimothyFluegel]

That was an option 😆 I had the cooling system apart on this tractor over the summer I flushed everything and got the radiator cleaned as it was running a little warm at times. I really wanted to work it and make sure the problems was solved. I'm happy to report the Guage never left the green. Next time I'll put it on a bigger tractor, but it was a good time running the 190 for a change. Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@tealpaddles8664]

WOnderful sound to that engine has . Good share . Hope this and compost bring back earthworms which are the best soil healer .

[@TimothyFluegel]

Lol thankyou, the old 190 is still a runner for sure. Something about those old 301s they just sing to ya. Years of conventional farming has desecrated the written population in my field. But since I've been farming organically, that's all changing. If you walk behind the plow for 5 feet you cloud have enough works to fish for a month 😆 thankyou for watching and commenting!

[@TimothyFluegel]

Lol thankyou, the old 190 is still a runner for sure. Something about those old 301s they just sing to ya. Years of conventional farming has desecrated the written population in my field. But since I've been farming organically, that's all changing. If you walk behind the plow for 5 feet you cloud have enough works to fish for a month 😆 thankyou for watching and commenting!

[@MikeJensen-wo7oh]

Tim, I've got a No. 4 Sub-soiler I pull with a WD45, pretty healthy machine too. When you're in dirt that really needs ripped, it's a low gear affair! I have seen manuals for the multi-shank tools but never seen one in person. Anyway, great video.

[@TimothyFluegel]

Thankyou Mike. I've only ever seen a single until last year, I saw it at a friend's house and had to have it 😆 he didn't really want to sell it but I bugged him enough and said if he needed to use it I'd Eben lend him a big enough tractor to pull it 😆

[@Pennies_on_the_dollar]

Wow, that is some hard ground for sure!! 😳😳 Ole 301 just a diggin' 😁😁 I love that straight pipe, tempted to on my 180...but without the turbo whistle, it's not the same!! Yes sir, pennies on the dollar!! I'm on the prowl for a trailer style myself!! That's some awesome footage Tim, hopefully it does help a lot next spring!! Happy Thanksgiving to you and the family, Bob as well!! 😁😁😁👍👍👍🦃🦃🦃🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@mcleanfarmsryan3897]

The 180 will still sound just as good nelson

[@Pennies_on_the_dollar]

@@mcleanfarmsryan3897 Really, now I am gonna have to at least try it!! Thank you Ryan!!

[@TimothyFluegel]

Thankyou my friend. Bob said gobble gobble 😆 🤷‍♂️ ... I'm pretty happy with how that chisel did. But the subsoiler, I think is going to make the biggest difference. That what dad told me too, he said that what is used before tile. If you wanna know what the 180 would sound like just go back and listen to tons 17 Pulling or plowing 😆 they sound pretty awesome really, and really freaking loud 😆 🤣 😂. Everyone says thankyou and are sending our wishes your way my friend.

[@TimothyFluegel]

They sound badass honestly. Just no whistle and loud as can be without the turbo lol. And they sound life they are running a million rpms too!! Lol

[@Pennies_on_the_dollar]

@@TimothyFluegel Gonna have to try it now🤣🤣🤣🙏🙏🙏

[@frankdeegan8974]

Bigger horse required. Something more along the line of an 8070. Fifty horse per shank.

[@mcleanfarmsryan3897]

But it still did it just fine

[@TimothyFluegel]

We still got the job done I don't think any less than 16 in deep that should be OK. I just wanted to get the 190 out working. If I had alot of ground to cover I would have used a bigger tractor.

[@frankdeegan8974]

Yes I agree there is something to be said about working a piece of machinery to the max. HEAR ME ROAR!@@TimothyFluegel

[@TimothyFluegel]

@frankdeegan8974 😆 and to be honest with ya I didn't expect it to pull as hard as it did lol. But once I got it hooked up and over to the other farm I figured i would make due 🤷‍♂️😆.

[@evanaustin2636]

I've been waiting to see that subsoiler in action, man that looked like a load! Definitely have some compaction there, hopefully it will help with that! I'd like to find a subsoiler to go behind my WD45, I passed on one when I bought the tractor and I've been kicking myself ever since. Hope you have a good one Tim!

[@TimothyFluegel]

We've got 2 single shanks. I think I could talk my dad into selling one. Off the top if my head I can't remember where you live though if it would be worth it to come pick it up. They aren't exactly easy to find. But then try to get the ball with it 😆, we've got one but that's definitely not for sale 😆. Thanks for anyways watching and commenting Evan!!

[@evanaustin2636]

@@TimothyFluegel I'm north of Muncie, Indiana, so it would be a bit of a drive. I'll keep it in mind, maybe I'll make it up there for plow day one of these years. I've seen a few on craigslist, but never when I have time or extra cash. I've never seen one with the ball either I'll bet they are really hard to find. Hope you have a good one Tim!

[@abramziegler4960]

Think maybe gauge wheels would help???

[@TimothyFluegel]

O definitely. 😆 I was out having fun with the old beast more than anything. Next time I'll use a bigger tractor and just bury the thing lol.

[@mcleanfarmsryan3897]

Boy that was some solid dirt

[@TimothyFluegel]

Man was it ever hard 🤦‍♂️

[@mcleanfarmsryan3897]

@@TimothyFluegel yeah you needed more weight and traction

[@TimothyFluegel]

@@mcleanfarmsryan3897 we got er done it was funner this way 😆

[@mcleanfarmsryan3897]

@@TimothyFluegel yeah it was

[@gleanerk]

Still got it 👍🏻🇺🇸

[@TimothyFluegel]

😆 yes sir. 50 years later, and still working the same ground too!

[@williamkemm673]

The old girl sure sounds good putting a pull to it

[@TimothyFluegel]

I couldn't agree more ya should have heard it in person William!

[@dylanhockaday9878]

Hay do you know any we’re I can get a door for my 7060 mine was missing and I want to get it all fixed back up

[@TimothyFluegel]

Try Bill deppe in Iowa. Google allis chalmers salvage in Iowa he'll pop up.

[@dylanhockaday9878]

@@TimothyFluegel thank you

[@TimothyFluegel]

@dylanhockaday9878 your welcome. If he Durant have one he'll get you in touch with Dewayne Beck and he'll have one for sure 😆

[@kahlerfamilyfarms]

Digging the series 3! Are your rear tires loaded?? Hope you had a good thanksgiving from my farm to yours!!

[@TimothyFluegel]

Yep tires are filled with windshield washer fluid. We got away from sodium chloride years ago. I think this was the 1st tractor we had swapped the fluid in. Thankyou for that shit. The same goes from my farm to yours my friend.

[@LukeLong-oi4uc]

Seems like that subsoiler needs another 25-30 horse to pull it effectively in those conditions. Every time the front end bounces it’s unloading the the drive tires. And that 190 needs some suitcase weight and probably wheel weights. I’ve always thought that the 190’s and most of Allis tractors from the 190 and down were to lightweight for the power that they were rated for, in actual weight and and drive train. We’ve owned a couple Allis’s. I’m a firm believer in having more tractor than needed so to not abuse the tractors drivetrain. I’m also a former heavy equipment field mechanic so that helps drives my way of thinking. That way if something breaks it’s the implement and not the tractor.

[@TimothyFluegel]

I've got a 7060 with a 301 that's set at 135 at the pump. Was just toying with the thing. But it blew a hydraulic line. Over the summer I got the radiator cleaned on the 190 and never got a chance to work it and make sure that was the overhearing problem. I'm happy to report that it was 😆. And as far as the rear end and tranny goes, I have a good 200 rear end to put on it. So really I don't care about the rear end on this one lol, and we all know the old 301 is up for the task 😆. As far as my tractors that I work everyday for hard tillage, I overpower everything, just look at the 7045 with the 9 shank chissle 😆, but I couldn't agree with ya more on that point. All that being said though, it was fun working the old beast like that lol

[@LukeLong-oi4uc]

@@TimothyFluegel your 7060 has a 301? I did a inframe on a 7060 20 years ago and it had a 426. I wasn’t sure if what you said was a typo, or wether it had been switched. I like that subsoiler of yours, until your video I had never seen one like it. Nor did I know allis ever made one. One day I’m going to have to either build myself one or find a good used one that’s not pulled apart. In north east oklahoma where I live we have several different types of soil. But down in the creek bottoms in some places here it’s dark gumbo heavy soils that runs pretty deep. It’ll get compacted similar to what you were ripping. I would chisel it 14” inches deep trying to shatter the pan and it was equally hard going. I personally believe all farm ground around here needs to be ripped at least once every 3-4 years for the maximum potential to be seen.

[@timwalter9999]

If you can run out side shank in pass before and rip two instead of three might help

[@TimothyFluegel]

I was just out having fun with the old beast. But I'm sure it would have helped alot. I didn't even think about it lol.

[@timwalter9999]

I'm all allis Chalmers have my grandpa Walters 49 b only tractor he ever owned farmed 70 acres a d 15 from my other grandpa and a d17 my mom bought me for my graduation in 1983 👍

[@TimothyFluegel]

@timwalter9999 it sounds like you've got a nice line up there.

[@Rdrake1413]

Definitely enough horsepower for a three shank sub soiler, must be some really hard ground.

[@TimothyFluegel]

I really thought it would be fine even in the hard ground 😆 once I got it shined up, I cloud go 2nd high out on the field. But this hard spots were something else all together.

[@jimholmes7738]

What is behind 7045

[@TimothyFluegel]

A 9 shank chisel. I believe it's a Glencoe but im not positive on that.

[@RJ1999x]

Set the traction booster and turn it on

[@TimothyFluegel]

I'll tell ya what..... if you find a supplier for that cable and want to send me one I'll get right on it 😆

[@RJ1999x]

@@TimothyFluegel there's no cable on the 190 it's all rods.

[@TimothyFluegel]

That's what i thought but this year end had a broken cable on it, I've got a 200 raar end that's going on this tractor hopefully this summer sometime or next winter. And it won't see any more lift arm work. Between now and then.

[@RJ1999x]

@@TimothyFluegel not sure what that cable would have done, it originally was all rods. The 200 won't be any different rod wise that a series 3

[@garywest-cl7id]

How deep are you going?

[@TimothyFluegel]

Around 16 inches.

[@gleanerk]

Tim ; There’s a guy here on utube Oliver 770 farm boy who has rear axles for a 190 if you’re interested. Lives in India I think but not sure . Btw happy new year friend!

[@TimothyFluegel]

Thank you, sir!!! I will look into this if they are xt series 3 rear parts they are worth having. in the earlier 190s, the rear end all the internals were smaller and to weak for anything over 100hp.

[@jkoehler4027]

That was hard on the clutch if the tires weren’t slipping!

[@TimothyFluegel]

The high side of the hand clutch slips. I've got a rebuilt one to put in it if I ever get around to doing it 😆.

[@keithrobinson1331]

Might want to put that on a bigger tractor! 🤣🤣

[@TimothyFluegel]

😆 🤣 😂 now what would be the fun in that? 😆

[@jerrycalvert7680]

Need to molboard plow every couple years to keep the ground loose.

[@TimothyFluegel]

I plow every spring actually. Mainly to plow down the cover crop, but it keeps the soil loose so row cultivating does a better job, among other benefits of plowing. The waterway there is usually so at I can't get through it and this spring was no exception. I figured I better get it ripped while it was dry.

[@kimhrrsfin4873]

That old one ninety will spit it's rear end in a pile if not careful

[@TimothyFluegel]

🤦‍♂️ they really aren't as bad as everyone puts them out to be. Problem was everyone had to turn then up to 115 120 hp 🤦‍♂️

[@seanconnolly7576]

That's a lot to ask of that ole girl

[@TimothyFluegel]

Lol it definitely pulls harder than 5 16s 😆. Other than the high side of the clutch slipping, it never missed a beat though lol.

[@jdtractorman7445]

Put the 7045 on the ripper and put the 190 on the chisel. Just don't try the chisel too deep at first.

[@TimothyFluegel]

I've got plenty of options for tractors to use on the subsoler. I had the whole cooling system off the 190 this summer cause it was running warm this spring and I wanted to see if the work paid off. Plus I haven't worked it for a while sonic seemed like a prime opportunity to see how it was running. I happy to report the answer to that question is like a champ 😆. Thanks for watching and commenting!!

[@DanWoelders-fd5zd]

The shanks are dull and worn, if you had new sharp shanks on it would cut 10x better, we have a 11 shank 3 meter subsoiler we run on a 8320r Deere on710 duals and if the points are worn it pulls twice as hard as new points easily

[@TimothyFluegel]

This one hasn't seen the dirt in 20 plus years on top of it lol, once it shined up it pulled pretty easily really lol. I sound have had 150hp on it or so but it was fun working the old 190 for a change.

[@fredrickpeet8363]

Don't think your clutch will last very long.

[@TimothyFluegel]

🤦‍♂️

[@daleschroeder8661]

Well. Buddie. Don’t flip it over ur buddy Dale from. Dewitt Said that ok😊

[@TimothyFluegel]

Thankyou Dale!!!

[@daleschroeder8661]

@@TimothyFluegel well how ya been doing good. I hope. Well I’m doing. Good. Everything good so yeah 👍. Did ya get that field. Done. lol it made the 180 bark alittle yeah it’s a good feeling to hear All. That power in one place

[@TimothyFluegel]

@daleschroeder8661 in doing pretty good Dale, just waiting for it to warm up outside 😆. We did get this field done. This video was from last fall. We're getting anxious to get out and turn some dirt too 😆.

[@daleschroeder8661]

Well that’s great lol cause it s making that thing bark lol

[@armedfarm3429]

Take & unbolt & remove 1 of the 3 before yer clutch is toast. Just making this short video put lots of wear on the clutch! Man, yer burning it up, you don't even realize it.

[@TimothyFluegel]

🤦‍♂️ some people and their ideas, what do you know about the hand clutches in the Allis? Cause the foot clutch was not slipping, and the high low is a wet clutch you can use and abuse them 20x more than a dry clutch. The old ih torque converters are a joke comparatively speaking. Now that being said. The high side of this clutch has a broken plate in it or 2 and it isn't right, I have one I completely rebuild sitting on the shelf just waiting for me to find the gumption to put it in. Idk this was such a what are you talking about comment, you mean I'm using the tractor to pull stuff like it was meant to do noooo way, and things that are meant to wear down are wearing down while I use it.....I never would have realized that your right.

[@armedfarm3429]

If you can't tell you are burning up the clutch there isn't anything more I can say. If you can't tell from trying to make it work & not realizing you are wreaking a fine piece of equipment, again I have nothing. You're the person that is too blind to see. @@TimothyFluegel

[@TimothyFluegel]

@armedfarm3429 like I said I'm wearing the wear points 😆 I cloud never imagine that happens. Ruining a good piece of equipment 😆 🤣 😂, for 100 bucks a 12 pack and about 5 hours it could have a brand new clutch in it lol we've got 30 tractors around here and alot of them ive been working my whole life. This 190 was bought new by my grandfather with a 5 16s pliw and has got over 10000 hours on it. This particular clutch and flywheel was used I to 160hp in the Allis. And still didn't burn up faster than any other brands of the Era, if you knew anything about the 190s you'd know that the rear end is the weak point, if I was going to do anything it wound have left the pinion laying in the rear end case. And at that point I've got a 200 rear end that has different mesh in tranny and bigger pinion bull gears shaft ect ect, and that would take me and my buddy a couple days to swap. Everyone had their opinions, but that don't make then facts. I've been running and working on these tractors my whole life. And the clutches are by far the least of the worries hear 😆 but I'm just an orange blooded allis guy/mechanic that has more knowledge on them than 80 percent of the people alive today.... what wound I know🤷

[@armedfarm3429]

Good for you to have 30 tractors around. You'll need em the way you treat em. Instead of wasting time trying to explain the stupidity of what you're doing, take off a tine & get to work!@@TimothyFluegel

[@keithtyson6457]

A set of duels and front weights , that ole 190 would pull all day I believe 😂

[@TimothyFluegel]

Yes it would. But I'd just go put it on a bigger tractor at that point 😆. This was alot fun working the ol 190 though for the smash amount I had to do.

[@garydavis3262]

Roles look to be reversed in this video lol

[@TimothyFluegel]

😆 in my defense we originally had the sudsoiler on a 7020. But it blew a hydraulic line so I figured if play with the 190 a bit lol.

[@mattutke4704]

Well happy Thanksgiving Tim the to ol man, is that disk a Glencoe or a JD? I'm having Thanksgiving at my nephew's house in SE north Dakota we were watching the Packers and the Lions game, did you see it too? 🦃🦃🦃🚜🚜🏈🏈🏈🏟️🏟️🏟️ Now I'm watching the cowboys and the commanders game

[@TimothyFluegel]

Happy turkey day to you too! I think it's s Glencoe. Definitely not a John deere I can say that for sure lol. The packers finally played ball today and i missed the game, what do ya know 😆.