Allman Brothers, In Memory of Elizabeth Reed (REPOST)

A reaction to the classic sound of The Allman Brother's Band.
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[@stretchgilbert]

One of the greatest albums ever made.

[@prestonpresley6885]

stretchgilbert Yes

[@deantait8326]

Absolutely TRUE

[@kakwirakeronrmontour861]

I don't have to imagine being there. I was there that night about 6 rows back from centerstage....Every time I hear this I relive those magic moments.

[@christinerobinson548]

This is a true composition. First movement, second movement, incredible bridges. Dickey Betts is terribly underrated.

[@steveaitch729]

i think it's more of an awareness issue than him being underrated. those familiar with him and his music don't underrate him. but i get what you mean.

[@samuelmregister]

Duanes solo stretch through the last 3rd of this song still brings tears to my eyes after 100's of listens. nothing can top it.

[@richardsims4779]

I love the way he simmers it and then jumps all over it towards the end.

[@BurkleyBarthel-rp5pt]

Me too! I've known these guys for 50 years of listening. My favorite sound is Allman bros!

[@MDLOP8]

From "Rock 'n' Blues Stew II": In what may be one of the greatest jazz-influenced instrumentals of our time, “In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed” was immortalized during this show, although it’s really a mix of two sets. Dickey opens with delicate volume control to raise and drop swells of notes like heaving ocean waves, and the opening twin guitar statement is displayed on an invisible curtain of melody. His solo is heavy again with sustained bars, and then Gregg rips the keys off his B-3 while the drummers snap back their answers. The studio version had Jaimoe on congas, but this set gave him space to lay down barrages on his kit to off-set Butch. Their timing and synchronicity was magnificent. Duane picks up the cue from Dickey and hurls a torrent of notes into the air with phrases that are embedded with jazz motifs. He ends with an explosion that sounds like an Atlantic hurricane hitting the beach.

[@williamditomaso6436]

There will never be a band like this again - perfection, god wanted to relax on the eight day so he hand molded a band - that band is the allman brothers

[@robyndenny3120]

God bless you brother.

[@SoulTrainBro]

You too

[@debravirden7130]

A great album to cruise from Columbus to Cleveland up US 71!

[@stevenpalmer8058]

This is one of my father's favourite bands, I have been loving this track since I was a toddler in the 70's. I can still picture the live in filmore east album cover. They are as good live as in the studio.

[@craigreid7178]

Hell Yes! This, IMHO, is their greatest work. I'm a bass player and have covered this song and the bass line is very difficult and very athletic. I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE this.

[@laurathornton1456]

Had the privilege last weekend to tour the Allman's "Big House Museum" and pay my respects to the Brothers at Rose Hill Cemetery where Duane, Berry, Gregg and Butch lie together. Elizabeth Reed is buried very close by. One of the highlights of my life. If you are ever in Macon, Ga you owe it to yourself to go to both places.

[@JJGuccione]

Supposedly, the big house they lived in was near a Cemetery in Georgia. Word on the street said Dickie snuck off one night with a lass and banged her up against a tombstone. The tombstone read: "In memory of Elizabeth Reed."

[@shanefrancis368]

Dicky and Duanne really complimented each other on this.

[@steveaitch729]

one of the best albums ever. being recorded live is just a bonus. as far as folks demanding you listen to music the way they want you to. forget them dude. been digging the allman bros since 170. enjoy your channel. KEEP THE MUSIC ALIVE

[@SB-jz1vl]

Unbelievable energy and musical perfection.

[@dlc1119]

With the Allmans you got Chicago and Delta blues, gospel, rock, hints of 'world' beat. Several genres blended, shaken, stirred and poured into a tall glass.

[@MrCrkeenan]

I read a story about the Photo on the album cover, that Duane , in the middle of the Photo shoot, ran over to a guy in a truck that was driving by and bought a Bag of Weed. That's why they're all laughing, and Duane in this Picture has the Bag in his hands between his Leg's.

[@laurathornton1456]

True

[@BurkleyBarthel-rp5pt]

Allman bros, for myself, give me the deepest feeling of comfort. Their all in the same boat and for different moods..age 59

[@casedismissed8581]

beautifully said !

[@theyounggentleman3969]

Jaymo to Duane: "why do we need two drummers?" Duane to Jaymo: " Because Otis Redding has two drummers" Jaymo to Duane "OK" RIP Duane, Berry, Greg, and Butch

[@pb68slab18]

Fast forward 20+ years to "An Evening with The ABB , First Set". The souls of Duane and Berry obviously morphed into Allen Woody and Warren Haynes.

[@tommathews3964]

You have just been washed clean by some of the purest, most magical music ever played! Make no mistake, this was Duane’s band. We were just blessed to have two of the greatest guitarists of all time in the same band! You have 6 more tunes on Fillmore East to go, then jump straight to “Eat a Peach”

[@jackfiamingo9180]

I can imagine being in that crowd. Hey, that's right! I was in that crowd! Where is my time machine? 2020 sucks. Lol!

[@karlp712]

It was the Miles Davis Kind of Blue album that influenced the Brothers.

[@kathleenmcbride1050]

This is a masterpiece!! The different beats and temps! Thanks for sharing 👩‍❤️‍💋‍👩

[@phillipward937]

This is a masterpiece where the sum of the parts elevate it beyond the grasp of their contemporaries. As Duane Allman was only 24 when he passed and Greg was a couple of years younger than Duane, you can never tell what might have been, but Duane was far from his peak. An old joke about Eric Clapton and Jerry Garcia. Jerry and Eric were captured by cannibals. The cannibals had a boiling pot ready. Jerry said, "don't we get a final request?" The Chief answered, okay. Jerry said, "I would like to listen to the Grateful Dead Anthology collection.", Eric said, "Cook me first."

[@827dusty]

I know Lynard Skynard were huge fans of The Allman Bros. They even sound a little alike at certain times. Both Southern Rock Bands, but the Allmans were clearly the better Band. Lead singer Ronnie Van Zant almost worshiped Greg and Duane Allman. Skynard definatly was influenced by The Allman Bros. They even said so, and were proud of it.

[@thefleasofathousandcamels6498]

On Skynard's "Dont Ask No Questions" there a line that says "What's your favorite color, and do you dig the brothers..." examples of the stupid questions they always get asked. Of course they dig the brothers....Allman, that is.

[@gerardrinaldi5874]

You got me !!! Right through the heart !! 1976 4 th July party dances with my wife first Time to this song 500 people 20 hours non stop music !! This was the only song she would dance with me twilight 8:30 !! 20 kegs 200lbs. Pig , 400 hamburgers 500 hot dogs all the pot you could smoke !! Memorable to say the least !-

[@judywormell3289]

One of my favorite tunes..love the jazz!

[@merossi1]

I love the Allman brothers and have since the 60s....what a shame Duane died so young!! I managed to wreck 2 rental cars looking for his grave in Rosehill Cemetary in Macon Georgia but did find it!!! Elizabeth Reed is a grave in that cemetary the band used to go there often.

[@skydog6376]

Another excellent tune.....theses guys kicked ass ....they had so much chemistry mixed with so much soul ....what a sound they created .... if I was only allowed to have one album to listen to for the remainder of time ......give me Fillmore East ......I’m good ✌️✌️✌️✌️✌️✌️

[@johnlofland805]

You have stated what I have said for many years. Duane ALLMAN played the guitar like people talk and write, in phrases. John

[@gregoryvschmidt]

Dickie Betts did this tune with LES PAUL live at a NYC jazz club. I recall Les saying this was one of the greatest songs EVER. He also referenced Miles.

[@charlesbecker6305]

Thank you STB... They were/ARE Monster Genius's of Electric Blues, with Rock andJazz flavors...They are from the South but MUCH MORE THAN SOUTHERN ROCK!!! 50 years later and NO One can touch them!

[@deantait8326]

Had the Live at Fimore East (1971) album. Living in SO Cal, I'd put this on and just groove to myself, walking around my ol West SFV house. This song occasionally led to a very "happy" day. Right back there now even though, I'm 2,400 miles and almost 50 yrs away....😎 Yes, "WOW MAN"! Thanks, Oh my... I'm now 70. Graduated H.S in the 67 Summer of Love....

[@ExpectTheSpanishInquisition]

Hey SB. I for one LOVE the readings. Even though I was a teenager when all these tunes came out and so was right in the thick of it all, I'm learning things about these songs and bands I never knew back in the day. So thanks and keep it up.

[@nkcbrazil]

Totally agree with Steve. Although this is a rare exception because of the perfection of the Allman Brothers live and this song which was meant to be live and probably the best live performance ever, at least for me. One of the rare times I’ve bought the album when it came out, put it to cassette for the car then The CD and to digital today and still listening. But I do have all the Allman Brothers Albums of course. This song of all though still gives me chills and the reason I came here. New to reaction KZbin and searching for this song. It shocks me there are few reactions so thank you!! Long live ABB and Elizabeth Reed!

[@christopherbako]

Your'e intro speech. Pure class.

[@gregoryzauss5648]

Miles Davis did "So What" 1st in 1959 on the album "Kind Of Blue." "Elizabeth Reed" about 10 years later.

[@ubilo]

Always loved this tune. And it's live.

[@westrokker]

Amazing how stoic you remain throughout the whole song!

[@donaldleider7382]

You sir, are a music connoisseur!

[@DaynePeachman]

I'd love to see you react to ''Dreams'' by the Allman Brothers. One of their finest tunes, very similar in arrangement to Miles Davis' ''All Blues''. The studio version is amazing, because Duane's guitar & slide guitar solo are breathtakingly beautiful. It was the highlight of the album. The song was always a highlight of their live shows as well. For a live version I'd reccomend the version from the Atlanta International Pop Festival, on July 3 1970.

[@shanefrancis368]

Dayne Peachman love that Miles Davis song. Been turning my son onto Miles and other blues and jazz tunes. He plays trumpet in jazz ensemble in middle school

[@Lifeformhuman]

First time I've watched your reaction and subscribed. Saw them at a concert in Florida a long time ago. This is my favorite song by the ABB. So glad I got to watch your reaction and hear your comments. :)

[@SoulTrainBro]

Thanks for subbing!

[@loveit7484]

Love the jazz influence in this!

[@8DecadesLife]

Really glad you are spotlighting the Allman Bros! I started my album collection as a 12 yr old with Fillmore East & literally wore the groves out & had to buy a replacement a few years later. When Duane passed I actually became depressed. Greatest live album ever priduced. Period. End of story!

[@joesmith1957]

I don’t comment much. But, after listening to this song well over a hundred times, it remains in my opinion the greatest single live recording ever. Btw, most of my listening is jazz and classic soul such as Donny Hathaway.

[@mikezak8812]

I admire and respect your deep knowledge and understanding for music I grew up with. Some of your reactions are of music that you grew up with or are covers of that, others are music that you are unfamiliar with. You see the brilliance and talent in the latter. You have fantastic taste in music- keep it up Man !

[@SoulTrainBro]

I appreciate that

[@jeffcocco7123]

Don’t have to imagine being in the crowd seeing this, I have over 40 times.

[@827dusty]

They had such great and unselfish guitar players. Yes Dickie Betts plays guitar. You wonder why he would stay in a Band that featured Duane Allman. Both Alpha guitarists, but secure enough to play together without being jealous of one another. Butch Trucks , the same thing. Crazy talent in this Band. You find out how all of these Bands seem to influence, and even play on each other's records etc. It's like a journey through Rock/Blues history.

[@mackpainter7445]

Duane was the famous guitarist... Dicky was the great guitarist

[@phyzix5052]

52 years...still get chills every time.

[@dwanpyrtle3134]

Duane-left channel Dickie-right channel

[@keithrose4227able]

this man was 25 years old when he died. unbelievable

[@BurkleyBarthel-rp5pt]

Thanks, and a favorite for myself and many listens is GRAND FUNK RAILROAD "INSIDE-LOOKING OUT"!

[@tedschmidt3288]

Hey, Bro...from what I read Dickie Betts who wrote this song incorporated some of Miles Davis' "All Blues". I believe you are now ready for the creme de la creme..."Mountain Jam" from "Eat A Peach" album which was from the Fillmore East dates. 33+ minutes. Duane's slide playing after the drum solo is just plain masterful.

[@jimcole9751]

The intro guitar and then guitar solo at the first of the song is Dickey Betts after Greggs organ solo that is Duane Allman with the final lead to the end of the song

[@AMERICANPRIDE1100]

23 yrs old amazing

[@slimpickins9124]

Allman Brothers, so many outstanding tunes. Love the history you do.

[@donnaselfon2969]

Dickey is the other guitarist..the bassist is Berry Oakley who died about a year after Duane both motorcycle accidents 1 block away from each other..😢

[@BurkleyBarthel-rp5pt]

Practice to perfection!😊

[@827dusty]

It really is good advice to listen to the studio version first, because that is the one everyone heard first and was made popular. A lot of Live/ in concert versions of songs, turn into something that barely resembles the original, therefore you really have never heard the song itself. Live concert versions, sometimes end up being better than the studio cut, but other times, the live version turns into a rambling, unrecognizable jam session, that just ruins it. It can go either way. Studio first, then if there is a live version, you now have something to compare it to. I'm so glad your back Bro! I always feel like it's just me and a buddy listening to classic Rock tunes, and Exchanging thoughts and ideas over a Beer. I actually used to do exactly that with an old friend of mine, almost every Sunday night. He moved to Belize about 20 yrs ago, so we just talk online off and on. You sort of fill the gap . Thank you my friend.

[@AKICITA]

He did reactions to every album up to Win Lose or Draw in chronological order. Keep checking, as he re-uploads all of his content (over 500 videos!) Now that he has returned to youtube!

[@johnleonard3806]

Love the transition midway into the uptempo shuffle. The drummers really got off on that, you can hear it like a magic carpet ride. I heard Butch Trucks mention that in an interview how he and Jai loved shuffle drumming.

[@arthurmarx6427]

I read recently that the band had been listening to a lot of Miles Davis around the time that they performed and recorded at the Fillmore East that year. So the influence might have been two-way.

[@edford1693]

Dickie Betts was one of the guitarist of the band. I think that he took over the lead guitarist role after Duane died. Check out "Jessica". Dickie wrote it while watching his young daughter bopping around the kitchen.

[@thetishbite5582]

I always enjoy your reactions. You are honest and insightful. You have probably already been told this but just in case. The Allman Brothers Band (ABB) Duane Allman - Lead and slide guitars (vocal on one song not on this album but on an expanded version of it), Gregg Allman - Keyboards and vocals on most songs, Dicky Betts - Lead Guitar and vocals on some songs, Barry Oakley - bass, Jai Johanny “Jaimoe” Johanson - drums and percussion, Butch trucks - drums, Tom Douchette plays harmonica on this album as well but was not a regular member of the band. Duane and Barry both died young. Duane was killed in a motorcycle accident shortly after this album was released. Barry was killed a year later one block away from that scene in Macon Ga. Their signature sound was achieved by the two lead guitars playing off of one another and the use of the organ to transition in songs. The mixed blues and jazz into a rock-n-roll fusion. Duane Allman is considered the GOAT of slide guitarist to this day.

[@rickchudnick1044]

There are great versions on KZbin from the last lineup with Derek Trucks and Warren Haynes from the 2000's you should check out as well

[@jamesmichael5475]

Stormy Monday might be Duane at his understated best. The ABB got me through undergraduate and grad school. Had the privilege of meeting Dickey and Gregg in 1977 at a small club (TG's east) in as small town in NJ they were playing the night before a gig in NYC. Loved them, but Duane was irreplaceable. they would go one to record and perform with numerous other lead guitarists, but now could approach Duane.

[@palacerevolution2000]

It's rare that you hear Greg stepping out like that on the B3. Guitars of course are both out of this world. One sound that always brings it right to Allman Bros-ville is that constant wash from the two ride cymbals. edit - SB says something, and it made me think. He says "Can you imagine going through your everyday moves while this is playing?" It would have to make you a better person. You go through your day hearing 'Fuk this fuk that, Ho, b*tch" it will shape and turn you. But you hear "Eliz. Reed", it's got to enter your spirit for sure. Just thinking out loud... I just got to Duane's solo - Holy crap, that is from Mars!

[@christinerobinson9372]

This is a "housework" song for me. Put it on and dance while you wash the dishes.

[@surfboy3216]

Yes ma’am!❤️

[@petercollins5861]

i totally dig your background scenery. it's meditative to fit the music.

[@BurkleyBarthel-rp5pt]

Excellent sir! I'm in.

[@marvinpedersen3396]

I saw them in early 71 in Berkeley. As good as the Fillmore East Live album only better to be there because you hear every instrument and sound!!! So much music in each song and the soul/jazz and passion all wrapped into one full experience!!! More than amazing!!! Saw so many of these bands live in the 70's and early 80's.

[@richardcarlson7552]

Betts on guitar berry Oakley on bass the greatest live album ever recorded

[@Missangie827]

that's jamming-it's like a party you don't want to end-not bad for a song inspired by a grave stone

[@arthurmarx6427]

When you're done with Fillmore East, if you want to hear another track with Duane Allman at his most awe-inspiring, try Boz Scaggs's "Loan Me a Dime" (studio version from Boz's first solo album). Twelve minutes of absolutely riveting, slowly building, blues-based, jazz-influenced bliss. Sometimes I think Duane was the Coltrane of electric guitar.

[@williamklimek9676]

Producer/Engineer Tom Dowd, who is responsible for Derek and the Dominoes also recorded John Coltrane back in the day

[@vinceyoung5912]

These guys weren't even 25 years old!

[@tstoneami]

Betts apparently used Miles Davis's All In Blue" as inspiration, from what I've read. So many great ABB songs.

[@shawndworkin]

You and your videos make me feel relaxed and happy. Thank you STB! You've got lots of soul. It's nice to be able to be around someone like that even if I am seeing you through the internet. It's hard to find people just chill like you that would be fun to sit around and listen to music with. Most peoples heads are In the past or too far in the future. You seem to take in the moment and cherish it. I appreciate you very much! I am 34 years old but I feel we are Kindred spirits. As for your question in the video. I think I prefer The Grateful Dead for freeway driving and The Allman Brothers for highway driving. So I can't pick a favorite. Just depends on which open road I'd be on. For listening at home I'd have to say The Allman Brothers too... so I guess they win. My favorite band is the band Yes and I'd love to see you react to the song Starship Trooper.

[@antarcticorb9197]

Isn't a highway and freeway the same thing?

[@shawndworkin]

@@antarcticorb9197 nope. Freeway is without traffic lights and highway is with.

[@antarcticorb9197]

@@shawndworkin thanks!

[@shawndworkin]

@@antarcticorb9197 you're welcome

[@richardcarlson7552]

This is the best

[@marymargaretmoore9034]

That's a tough question! I love both bands and can't really pick a favorite.

[@christopherbako]

You can really hear how they influenced Skynyrds guitar jamming.

[@shanefrancis368]

Listen to that Hammond

[@brucemclaughlin7845]

Bill Graham owner of the Fillmore East said that they were the greatest American band. I agree.

[@jimhayes3225]

Do the song by them, Jessica, another great one.

[@davenatale850]

If you look at the photo at the beginning of this reaction, you'll notice that Dickie Betts is hidden behind Gregg's hat. Unfortunately, he never got enough credit. And the groove behind the organ solo was fucking awesome!!

[@christinerobinson9372]

Barry was the bassist, Dickie was "the other" lead guitar.

[@dantana5774]

not only do you feel that incredible talent, you don't feel like a member of an audience- you feel like you're in the barn with them, in the band, just communicating with the instruments in a jam session; and that's it's not about making money- just the love of the music- I can't put this on and cook- I'll burn something b/c I get lost in the music

[@randykent9594]

This is the best live album of all time in regards to rock n roll. Hotlanta is on the same side as In Memory of Elizabeth Reed of this double album. They were really tapping into an epic sound when Duane died, if he had lived who knows where they would have taken their sound.

[@izzonj]

Duane Allman said that leading up to this concert, just about the only music he was listening to was Almost Blue, so this is definitely indirect by Miles, not the other way around.

[@patrickbuckley344]

My choice is the Allman Brother's- I grew up in Daytona Beach, Florida , Duane and Greg Allman went to my High School, it was in the air always!

[@ewoe21]

SKYDOG at his best!

[@sailinbob11]

Dicky was vocals,and his red guitar. Pretty sure it was a Gibson custom,but it's been 50 years,so I could be mistaken.

[@surfboy3216]

Gibson SG!

[@sailinbob11]

@@surfboy3216 I stand corrected. I was like 13,been awhile. Lol...

[@surfboy3216]

Me to brother! Pretty sure Daune and Dickey gifted or traded guitars. Dickey played the SG during Fillmore sessions with Duane on the fifties Les Paul Sun Burst or Gold Top. As long as we love and remember the greatness! Thank you my friend.

[@sailinbob11]

@@surfboy3216 great music, awesome memories. Be safe. Capt.Bob

[@christinerobinson548]

The story I heard about this song, and I don't know if it's true, was that there was a cemetary near the homes of Greg and Duane, and Barry, and they played there often as children. There was a stature of a young girl who had died at age twelve. They hadn't known her, but her early death touched them. Duane and Dickie would both be on lead guitar for this song? Barry on bass.

[@bobmorr2892]

Both the Grateful Dead and the Allman Brothers were fantastic bands for sure. But to me there are a couple reasons I like the Allman Brothers a lot more. The Allman Brothers had a more hard Electric Blues serious type of sound I believe. And the Allman Brothers had Gregg Allman one of the greatest singers in rock history. Also the Allman Brothers have a lot of very good songs. When Duane was alive I think they were the best American band ever. After he died they were still one of the best and gave us over 40 years of incredible music.

[@karlp712]

Two other great renditions of this song are (1)From the live album Wipe The Windows, Check The Oil, Dollar Gas. This version was from 1973 and was post Duane. It has Chuck Leavell on piano. 17 minutes long and Dickey is on fire. (2) From the live album Second Set. Acoustic version and just an incredible piece of music. Must listening.

[@DaynePeachman]

Your musical knowledge is impressive! Ironically the Allman Brothers were also heavily influenced by Miles and Coltrane. The years leading up to At Fillmore East, Duane Allman was listening to almost nothing other than Miles' ''Kind of Blue''.

[@stephenhanson3647]

Jaimoe brought the jazz to the group.

[@DaynePeachman]

Stephen Hanson Right on. Jaimoe is the man.

[@nebbindog6126]

@@stephenhanson3647 So am I!! My other favorite besides this is SRV Riviera Paradise.

[@jastout3104]

On the Mountain Jam playing, you asked which was Guitar solo was who. Note Duane is always o. The Left channel (stereo) his sound is full round with sometimes tight compression (fuzz). Dickey’s sound more clear crisp even twangy. Of course Duane’s slide is itself incredible. His favorite albums were Mike’s Davis “Kind of Blue” and a John Coltrane “ My Favorite Things” . Checkout Duane Allman’s Anthology. (And Two) Put together after his death. Also he plaid on The complete album Derek and The Dominoes, Layla. And many more

[@vinceyoung5912]

Greg was not recorded very well on the live version of the video of live at filmore. It is evident in some videos. If nobody already answered dickie betts is the 2nd lead guitar.

[@davidcochran6291]

Gregg playing the Hammond B-3 takes me back. Makes me think of Felix Cavalari and the Rascals. Oh boy you can always tell when Duane comes in (at 12:35). He always plays like he is late for something important and is trying to make up lost time. He's always pushing. I've never heard that from another guitar player. Sometimes Eric can get after it, but the closest has to be the guy that took his place, Derek Trucks. Derek plays like he's late too. There has never been a player like Duane. His friendship with Eric lead to the album Derek and the Dominoes Layla and other love songs. The expanded version had all the jams these guys would do while trying to get the album off the ground. Many people in and around the project said there wouldn't have been a Layla album if it weren't for Duane. Well back to Live at the Fillmore East The band recorded everyday for four straight days as they were the band that Bill Graham wanted to close down the Fillmore East. They would come on at 9 or 10 o'clock and would play until the sun came up. Now that was not much different for this band than they would normally do.3-4 hr. concerts was not unheard of. They would never play the same show two times in a row either. They would change the lineup of songs. Then the songs that were featured the one night might not even be on the set list for that next night. Also since they were a jam band the songs that were played long one night might be playing as a stock version that next night. Thanks Big Guy for your reactions. You always seem to have something to say that gives us all something to think about.

[@lisarainbow9703]

The Miles Davis song you might be referring to is "Milestones"-- I only know this because I'm a musician, and I've played both before-- they're both in minor keys, with nearly identical chord progressions . Another couple of smokin instrumental by the Allmans: Hot 'Lanta Les Brers in A minor Mountain Jam ( live version from the Fillmore)

[@jinov191]

Duane Allman loved Miles Davis, he definitely was influenced by him.

[@KeyWestChrisRehm]

Grateful Dead/Allman Brothers: Both live, as you say, were in their true element. I wouldn't say one was better than the other, but they did have a different approach to some degree. The ABB had more of a structure to their improvisations in that during the improve areas, they had several avenues they could travel, particularly in the Duane era, yet they'd always come out with a structured ending, such as here on Elizabeth Reed you have the melody, the 16 measure drum solo, then a return to the melody. The 'Dead were a lot looser than that. More often than not, in a 'Dead jam the setlist was virtually tossed out the window, If they were doing Truckin' it would usually evolve into Epilog but tomorrow night it might go into Jack Straw, and the next night into New Speedway Boogie. the 'Dead were strictly seat of the pants. Anything could happen at any time and anything they were doing could go anywhere at any time. With the Allmans you would have a song like "You Don't Love Me" and in the jam, it could go any which way with various sections every night, however, it always came back to the end, which again may have improvisation within it, a little different every time, but it was the recognizable book end. The 'Dead were more free form, almost like walking the high wire without a net. It didn't always work, however, no matter if it crashed and burned (not often) or soared to heights never seen before, as a musician I can't help but have boatloads of respect them for taking that chance! I wouldn't say one was better than the other, they just had two related, yet different approaches. And yes, they did jam together on several occasions. Ones that I recall were RFK '73 and Watkins Glen a few months later. There were also a few times in San Francisco while Duane was still alive. Thanks! I love your page!