DCS Deep Cycle Systems Defamation [Update 2] | " We don't sue anyone for reviews"

[@AlloffroadAu]

Please note: Comments are enabled but need to be approved. Please leave me a supportive comment. It helps the algorithm (please understand I can't reply, though). I can not approve any defamatory comments towards a particular battery manufacturer. Decide yourself. Here are my original reviews: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKbMp5x5hdV-Y7s | kzbin.info/www/bejne/rIPGhIOrd9SVY6s

[@GrowlingBearMedia]

Never silence people !

[@leokimvideo]

Well done getting Louis Rossmann to look into this case. He really understands people's basic rights

[@twothreefour234]

That pit bull can hunt.

[@rfitzgerald2004]

@@twothreefour234 He sure can, he's dug up some of the Ausralian Government's own battery test results, check "Report 12" arena.gov.au/knowledge-bank/itp-battery-test-centre-reports/

[@thomasmaughan4798]

Yes, came here after EEVBlog's post and then Louis Rossmann. Great commentaries and useful.

[@copernicofelinis]

Louis Rossman has been an absolute savage! 😀 A true legend.

[@Studio23Media]

Louis Rossmann is a true hero of the people. He deserves an award.

[@pivkaaa]

I came from Louis Rossmann channel, I stand behind you like Louis.

[@Roger-ic7sf]

Louis is a legend. Full of common sense and logical reasoning.

[@bradherbert8855]

Me too

[@malenotyalc]

Same

[@forrestgump282]

from Will Prowse solar fans. we stand behind you. im positive you will win the case

[@RAL2010]

Saw this at both Louis Rossmann and Will Prowse! Donated.

[@Dropbear087]

"The Streisand Effect" immediately comes to mind. Unless the Plaintiff has an eventual resounding win by proving they were clearly defamed the net result of the adverse publicity will be far more damaging and longer lasting than if they'd just copped the initial criticism quietly. Likely they gambled by first threatening and then commencing legal action that Mr Fischer would retract and desist in any further criticism, so they rolled the dice. Time will tell if that was worth it, hang in there Stefan and good luck because i'd have dug my heels in too!

[@pwnmeisterage]

This is what happens when threats failed but the bully is too stubborn and too dumb to back down and admit they were wrong. Fools take bad cases to court every day. Their arguments are heard, their evidence is examined, the judgment is made against them.

[@forrestgump282]

even if DCS wins the case, they will still be a losser. many buyers or potential buyer will boycot the product

[@eekamoose]

There is no way that I will ever do business with a company that tries to suppress negative - honest - reviews instead of noting the problem and addressing the issues raised in the review. Reacting to negative reviews in this way is not only dishonest, it is business suicide.

[@jeffh8803]

Australia needs an anti-SLAPP law. Lawsuits like this should be dismissed at an early stage and costs awarded to the defendant

[@ricochet2977]

I’m surprised that DSC even brought this case as it’s very difficult to win defamation cases in Australia, either way it’s only going harm the company.

[@northeastoperations]

Good luck! First heard of your situation over at Luis Rossman. Will donate to help fight the corruption.

[@rskipworth]

Me too! Donated!

[@forrestgump282]

how i wish Ellon Musk will hear this😢

[@highlander752]

The company had the opportunity to turn the original review into a positive but chose another direction. I’m part of the 4wd community here in Australia and would never purchase off a company who conducts itself in this manner. We support you

[@forrestgump282]

i have seem reviews from Will Prowse with negative comments on a product, and boom months later Will Prowse give a second review with the product improvement

[@JazzJackrabbit]

There are three types of lies: - Lies - Damn Lies - DCS Lies

[@ABadManinLondon]

Best of luck. DCS are (in my view) being very short-sighted in pursuing legal action and I hope for your sake and the sake of their staff that they cease this waste of time and energy before they trash their business' reputation. Keep posting! All the best from the UK

[@JimmyMatis-h9y]

looks a little late to not trash their reputation. good riddance DCS.

[@jonathan198627]

As a family of outdoor enthusiasts we stand with you. what you are doing is important, your efforts are not lost on us.

[@StephenKellyQLD]

As another Queenslander, it's sad to see a local company shooting themselves in the foot, with their very poor social media skills. Keep up the good work, and always push back on a bully. I will give DCS a ring tomorrow and see what they say

[@JimmyMatis-h9y]

what'd they say

[@mini_steve]

Let me guess, they won't answer your call's or emails and the "office" is no longer there? As a Queenslander, we don't approve of this type of business practice.

[@Fringedweller1000]

did you ring?

[@forrestgump282]

i'm curious how they handle your call

[@delta3eight]

We need an update!!

[@bran-qt7ds]

I'm here from Louis Rossman's video, and am commenting to help you in the algorithm. Gotta love the Steisand effect.

[@1stRanger]

Evidently this "small Aussie family" is rotten to the core. I'm gonna add DCS to the list of companies whose products I'll never buy under any circumstances.

[@xinelli]

I came from Louis Rossmann's channel, and I commend you for your honesty and strength. Good luck!

[@warped-sliderule]

DCS would rather listen to their lawyers advise on using forceful tactics instead of engage in a positive social media response. It might be family run, but from the online evidence it appears to be a nasty family...

[@sammyd7857]

Most people love to rip everyone else off. This isn't just a dcs thing.

[@tullochgorum6323]

I hope you win a resounding victory. The courts will hopefully consider the chilling effect of penalising honest reviewers trying to hold businesses to account. The fact that they are openly lying about their action on social media tells you all you need to know about their ethics. When will these bullies learn that all this kind of anti-free-speech SLAPP action will achieve is to draw attention to their flawed marketing claims and their horrible company culture?

[@George-vf7ss]

DCS, brace for impact.

[@walthanas]

Being in the Netherlands, I heard about this from a DCS review done by a US reviewer in Las Vegas. Interesting to see people from around the world find out about how badly DCS is dealing with your review. Good luck with your court case!

[@paulbianchi7877]

Companies should not be afraid of independent testing. It can be used to your advantage.

[@biggin9077]

It's called constructive criticism.

[@t-dog8528]

I first saw this on Louis channel, just the fact they're suing for an honest review then we'll never ever run their products in our large fleet

[@sjsomething4936]

Thanks, keep up the good work! I hope this goes in your favour. Companies suing to prevent independent product testers from publishing their results are scum.

[@ronniepirtlejr2606]

The world backs you! 💯💪🙂👍 From America 🇺🇲

[@PhoenixRising-nm1he]

As a Kiwi neighbor of Australia I have never heard of DCS, and don't think I have ever user their batteries on any of our twelve vehicles. Their batteries might be good, but I like a partnership with my suppliers, I now know who to avoid. Had they said, "Thanks for alerting us to your concerns! Lets get together and sort the problem", as any responsible company would, they wouldn't be facing this backlash.

[@trevorreynolds6330]

Sorry to hear you have to go through this. As a company DCS should be able to take your feedback and use it to further improve their products. Battery performance can be the difference between life and death especially in the Australian outback where temperature extremes already deminish a battery's performance. Keep up the good fight and hopefully the courts will toss this case as soon as a judge hears the arguments.

[@iamtherealzim]

I hope you can recover your legal fees. Bullies suck. Keep up the good fight!

[@craigmarshall5896]

I live off-grid in the UK. The importance of Independent reviews of products cannot be overstated enough, either positive or negative, to enable consumers to make purchases after seeing all the information produced by multiple sources, for a given product. Reviewers use varying criteria for evaluating products and producing their reviews. DCS could have reached out to enquire why the review was negative and either: 1.) Improved their product. 2.) Asked for a statement by DCS to be referenced by the reviewer. 3.) Accepted that in business, people will have different views on your product and you need to have broader shoulders. I personally think this action speaks volumes about DCS. Good businesses let the product and word or mouth do the selling. When you get constructive, but ultimately negative reviews you consider negative, you need to understand the reasons why and address those if possible. I hope you are successful in your defence, and if you are I would hope you would counterclaim against DCS. Your case is important in as much as people should be free to dissent, openly, as long as any dissent is not deliberately intentioned in a malicious or vexatious manner. As far as I can tell your review was your honest opinion and you had no other connection with the DCS business. I wish you every success in your defence of this claim.

[@highlander752]

Hi Stefan, I’ve made a small donation to your cause. I’m amazed how much you have been able to raise through go fund me ! Fighting against a bully or raising funds for the RFDS -either way it’s a great cause. We stand with you.

[@Dxing_Adventures]

I am a new subscriber. Having watched yours and many other channels, I found your reviews honest and unbiased. You give your opinion and what they are based on. This is the first time I have ever given money to any KZbin creator, I hope you win.

[@AlloffroadAu]

Thank you so much 🙂

[@bc-guy852]

I heard about you, (and now Will!) and this MADNESS via Louis Rossman! I'm in BC, Canada (some great off road territory around here) but I neither go off-roading nor do I visit or know anyone in Australia. But I strongly support your cause and am GRATEFUL that several communities are conspiring to make this nasty event a memory soon. And you'll be left with the subscribers and likes! I will watch your other episodes and try to support.

[@Free_Ranger_CT110]

All the best Stephan in this difficult time.

[@Chirpychirpa]

Defective products warrant impartial reviews from professionals to ensure customer satisfaction. Thank you sir

[@foobar9761]

You are fighting the good fight, DO NOT bow to bullies.

[@deriusnorris4463]

In South Africa we would say "eish" Absolutely unbelievable. Strongs with the legal case. Louis has some good case info. Thanks for keeping it real.

[@chrisbridgland7212]

Absolutely shocking! Shows they are scared of the truth!

[@GigAnonymous]

Thank you for being an outstanding reviewer!

[@andyphillips3]

DCS are done, in this country ..keep an eye out for the re-brand too.👍

[@Josef_R]

"That we believe are genuine." They will say they ARE suing you because they don't believe yours is genuine. It's all in the disingenuous wording.

[@klm404]

Thanks!

[@rainerzuehlke501]

Thanks

[@petevawser7310]

Keep up the good fight. Always found your videos well researched and honest. You have more integrity than these bullying companies.

[@rataluckens6506]

I have bought 4 pairs of dcs batteries I will now be checking their capacity. glad there are some youtubers who can seriously help you gd luck!

[@ricklee7171]

afraid they using B grade mixed with C grade quality I assume since I had suspicion on quality but the design built has been confirmed as a redneck cheap design

[@zAngus]

I’ve never watched your channel, but as an Aussie someone suing you for a review doesn’t feel Australian. I’m in for $50. Donated. Good luck with your case.

[@misakianimated]

There is nothing more pathetic than a company sueing someone for a review. Fight on brother! 💪🏽

[@IdiotamSpielen]

funny thing is, had they not sued they would've probably not taken any notable damage to their bottom line at all. But with them having sued, no matter if they win this case or not (Which, no of curse they will not win), the public sees them as a company incapable of taking criticism, a company that takes legal action as soon as even the tiniest negative claim is made regarding their products. And that will hurt their bottom line. It will hurt very much.

[@Roger-ic7sf]

And that what you said right there sums it up perfectly. Very myopic from a small company full of hubris. All this has done has given Stephan's profile and channel a massive boost, while taking a huge hit on themselves. Not all publicity is good publicity. Perhaps they should move their business to China, they just might like the censorship laws over there better.

[@Freshbott2]

Hurt isn’t enough. To threaten someone’s independence is a sinister mark and in doing so they’ve threatened the nature of others’ business (that being reviews). I’d go further than say I hope to see it hurt their bottom line but to see them go fully out of business since their continued lies, tampering with evidence and intimidation tells me they unfairly wish the same against innocent people. They don’t deserve any success.

[@sidekickbob7227]

My thought excactly. They have diggen their own grave as a business.

[@SomeRandomPersonOnTheNet]

Here from Louis Rossmann. Subbed and good luck from Florida!

[@peterleary2389]

Why can't this company understand the negative impact their actions is having on their own business and product!! Very poor advice from their legal people but I guess they will just sue them next. The lawyers just get richer ! 😅

[@stuartwalker6786]

STAY STRONG!!!

[@tonym3185]

Just donated. I will no longer support DCS

[@chimleypot]

Thank you for keeping on. It's time and energy you could have spent sharing your expertise, which is sad. But it's really important work, especially in a world where independent reviews by real people and not companies are increasingly hard to find.

[@art-is-lazy4509]

Working in federal government procurement, i can say dcs have killed their opportunities for any government contracts.

[@OregonPacificRailroad]

Well done. Love it when the little guy wins.

[@LoganJohnson-lm2bh]

Sir i am in the U.S.A. from what i have seen of your test results and with the evidence from the government test results add to that all the paper work and there response to it all I cannot foresee any problem of you winning in any forthcoming litigation against you .And i thank you for doing what you do .

[@dave6501]

Hi man. I'm from across the pond. I'm not an off roader. However i do use battery technology as an electrics trained professional I do agree we need technical accurate honest reviews. Which should not be manipulated by corporate advertising. The consumer protection agency's of all citizens world wide should take this fight and sorry for you luck small corrupt Australian "family" business. If your advertising yourself as a "small family business" your #1 priority is quality and honesty. Period. This bullying tactics are for big government corruption and large businesses which we need protection from. Where is the representation for us the average joe. ... We as end users are fed up i expect this from the Chinese government and their crap on Ali Baba not a "small Australian family business" shame on you!

[@jeffbane5061]

Keep strong! I hate these kinds of injustice!

[@mrkthmn]

Wow, I can’t imagine denying the law suit is going to look good for them in court to say the very least!! Really undermines their case.

[@johnhansen7922]

A review of any product is an opinion by the reviewer. We all have opinions and we are not necessarily always right. DCS seems to struggle to understand their potential customer base and instead of addressing concerns over an opinion as they are raised they choose to attack. This is about freedom of opinion more than their product hence why the public will fight them and boycott them going forward. If they spent the money on good PR advice maybe they could have turned this exposure into something productive. An honest apology stating they have over reacted would go a very long way to solving this issue. Just my OPINION 😊. I will boycott DCS until they grow a brain.

[@GMAN420BC]

Support from Canada. DCS gave you the batteries to review, you did your job, they may not of liked your findings but that was the whole reason they gave you the products.

[@efka28]

Thanks to Rossman we know.

[@MarkSmith-js2pu]

Heard about your story on John Cardigan and Luis Rossman. I like your chances.

[@oscararborist]

I came here from Louis Rossman.

[@JulianMakes]

I think it’s obvious who is behaving poorly in this matter.

[@martinhansen6802]

Im here after watching Lous Rossmanns video with the official governement documents documenting how bad DCS batteries are. Subscribed!

[@CheeseLovingGuy]

Interesting and important and going to be a fascinating journey to follow.

[@obfuscated3090]

Subscribed! Public scrutiny is vital to protecting consumers. SLAPP suits are evil. DCS USA are blocking Facebook posts too. How stupid do they imagine customers are?

[@AndreMiller-RED]

Stay strong brother! Make sure to rest and maintain strong health!

[@DirtRoad4x4]

I wear two hats, as a small Aussie business and a small youtube channel that does review's. I was never a fan of DCS products because of the issues you have outlined. Keep up the good fight, Trev :)

[@DaveMuller]

Hey mate, heard about you from the John Cadogan video. I subscribed, and best of luck.

[@gtpits]

Never really watched the channel but you now have my attention and so does DCS so I can avoid them

[@aderickus3210]

Good luck chap, you have supporters all over the world now

[@heartsky]

Rossman says we can make a difference by just being here. I want to help, and I'm lazy. So here's my help, and I sub'd. Probably go through a couple other videos.

[@serepax3282]

Thanks for showing up and providing support. ✌️

[@renchesandsords]

Louis has another video pulling up an Australian government report that showed the lackluster performance of DCS's batteries

[@jmannUSMC]

Best of luck to you bud! Glad I've never spent money with DCS

[@jeremycox8261]

Go get them. I can’t believe the company is so petty and litigious. The fact that they can’t handle criticism or won’t address the criticism is reason enough for me never to buy their products.

[@LinuxGalore]

The problem DCS has now created is everyone and their pet cat is now going to review DCS batteries. KZbin thrives on drama and DCS has created a drama gold mine for content creators.

[@georgetaylor2819]

What's important is NOT the size of the dog in the fight - but - the size of the fight in the dog.

[@jlastre]

The Eisenhower quote

[@t-dog8528]

Nothing beats a big bank balance

[@hec-haul]

All the best to you, we need more honest reviewers on KZbin to help us consumers in helping us to choosing a good product. Wishing you the best of luck to beat this.

[@joeblogs4295]

Good luck and stay strong.

[@angusabbott5615]

“Defender mods and travels” mentioned your issues and thought I’d check out your channel 🇬🇧

[@kevinmiller5467]

DCS spends money on lawyers not batteries.

[@muntee33]

How?!? Our government likes to give itself credit for our freedom of expression, surely you can point at that no?

[@260bossute]

I will never do business with this company. Period.

[@speedtouchbr]

PHUCK DCS! GREETINGS FROM BRASIL!

[@twothreefour234]

Their sneaky words had to be changed . The qualifier added to make the original statement true A non measurable qualifier determined by a less than honest entity. There is a smell about that. A bad smell.

[@Sparky_D]

As a fellow Aussie who follows many 4x4 / motoring channels on KZbin I can't believe I only found your channel due to this legal action. You got a new subscriber from me and someone else just got put on my personal blacklist for companies to never use.

[@arisskarpetis]

They had an opportunity to improve their batteries with you but instead they drag you to court. Small Ausie family business is clearly too small to be in the technology game.

[@tony359]

What a horrible situation you find yourself in. As a small KZbinr making occasional reviews, I can understand. Im confident things will resolve in your favour but DCS must pay for the emotional damage as well. I will share as much as I can and I am so happy to see some major KZbinrs (Dave, Luis etc) helping you getting this despicable situation as shared as possible. Be strong!

[@robertwoodruff8491]

Instead of suing him, why dont they do a review of his review. Do their own tests, show where he made mistakes and why they feel his review is inaccurate. Is it because they cant because his review is correct, so they want to shut him up and keep him from telling the truth?

[@thonatim5321]

Will Prowse did a review of this battery on his KZbin channel. Everyone should check it out. Once you watch his video, you will never buy a product from DCS again.

[@philgray1023]

Strange that when starting this video it comes up with an advert for a large scale solar battery recall. Sometimes companies get it wrong.

[@HonestLawyersNeeded]

Your defence in defamation is your comments were true and in the public interest.

[@michaelsecomb4115]

DCS seems to have kicked an own goal. This is a marketing disaster.

[@qmp666]

There is nothing wrong in wanting a SUPERIOR PRODUCT. NO MATTER WHAT THAT PRODUCT IS. However products that have proof of failure fall short of adequate.. and are far from superior...

[@AlsETypeResto]

Good luck with your case. DCS are obviously going to lose this and they will also lose customers over this with their disingenuous actions

[@ansermanjess]

You have to laugh at their tactics, they're getting the most crap for attacking the little guy so now they're trying to make themselves look like the little guy. Is the world that stupid that people would actually fall for that. IMO it makes them look desperate.

[@robertadams2857]

Just caught up with Louis Rossmann. Best of luck against the DCS bullies.

[@luckyhanger1326]

keep up the good fight!

[@Lance-vk5px]

“reviews that WE believe are genuine”… now that is a red flag and such an arrogant statement from a company.

[@krihel21]

It shows they have something to hide.

[@hal263]

Seems like DCS should focus less on frivolous lawsuits and invest more energy (no pun intended) on improving their products if they want to remain competitive. But, it seems like they chose the braindead option, and they themselves are the only ones having a negative impact on their reputation, no one else. Damn that Streisand effect is a bitch! I hope DCS gets accustomed to the term "costs awarded" when this is all over.