DEEP CYCLE SYSTEMS [DCS] DEFAMATION CASE [UPDATE 3]

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AllOffroad 4x4

AllOffroad 4x4

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@AlloffroadAu
@AlloffroadAu 4 ай бұрын
Please note: Comments are enabled but need to be approved. Please leave me a supportive comment. It helps the algorithm (please understand I can't reply, though). I can not approve any defamatory comments towards a particular battery manufacturer. Decide yourself. Here are my original reviews: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKbMp5x5hdV-Y7s | kzbin.info/www/bejne/rIPGhIOrd9SVY6s
@recklesflam1ngo968
@recklesflam1ngo968 4 ай бұрын
Good luck in your case mate.
@wesleyreid3174
@wesleyreid3174 4 ай бұрын
Please go look at their linked in page and take a screen shot it states they employ more than 10 people.
@engineeringdisillusion
@engineeringdisillusion 4 ай бұрын
Greetings from Italy, I'm an enterpreneur. At this point DCS is basically defamating itself, no sane manager would pursue a legal action against a review instead of fixing the issues or at the very minimum deep dive the question with the reviewer. All the best.
@appleejack
@appleejack 4 ай бұрын
They have no chance of winning this case. DOA
@TheRonskiman
@TheRonskiman 4 ай бұрын
Good luck, let's hope the November hearing puts an end to this case. That said it would send a powerful message if this went all the way and you won.
@maxregal8889
@maxregal8889 4 ай бұрын
I assumed the update would be to tell us that DCS had withdrawn their lawsuit. But no, they appear to be in full blown self destruct mode.
@garrylearmonth9313
@garrylearmonth9313 4 ай бұрын
I think even if DCS wins the battle, they are going to lose the war.............. word of mouth is so powerful.
@badger47-n3c
@badger47-n3c 4 ай бұрын
@@garrylearmonth9313 *word of mouth is so powerful for small companies.
@derbagger22
@derbagger22 4 ай бұрын
They won't win.​@@garrylearmonth9313
@Fanta....
@Fanta.... 4 ай бұрын
@@garrylearmonth9313 We need to collectively make sure this lives on for as long as DCS are still in business.
@G-ra-ha-m
@G-ra-ha-m 4 ай бұрын
They are shovelling money to their lawyers, instead of into product R&D. Bad move, very short sighted.
@NorthernS0utherer
@NorthernS0utherer 4 ай бұрын
LOUIS ROSSMANN sent us to an old video. I'm here to help blow this up in the algorithm. 🇺🇸 STANDS WITH YOU
@morgs4673
@morgs4673 4 ай бұрын
As someone who grew up near where DCS operates from (Tamborine), I can tell you first hand it's tough. There is very little market share if you want to open up a shop or garage, the operating costs are high, and so is the chance of failure. As such, it's a very tight community which looks after its own. We may not be perfect, but we work hard to survive. That being said, when someone steps out of line and puts all of us at risk, we tend to vote and operate with our conscience. My personal view is that suing a small KZbin channel for an honest review is stepping over the line, and I will support the KZbinr. I hate to see this come from my community. It just seems so unnecessary
@baxdesign
@baxdesign 4 ай бұрын
Suing ANYONE for an honest review is stepping over the line.
@felixchien1664
@felixchien1664 4 ай бұрын
There is a line called "moral". Suing and persecuting someone for speaking the truth is immoral. It's not "unnecessary"; it's evil!
@JimmyLLL
@JimmyLLL 4 ай бұрын
I have no idea what the purpose of this comment is, you basically described all of Australia.
@tigertiger1699
@tigertiger1699 4 ай бұрын
Is it not tough most anywhere.., no body force people to start or own a/ any company.. there is usually always the option to work for others… Likewise no one is forced to make any particular level of product or quality People who choose to be in business should do their business let others give their honest opinions.. Where does all of this I own a company.. poor me come from….
@robguyatt9602
@robguyatt9602 4 ай бұрын
@@tigertiger1699 Well said. I'm a small manufacturer and my main product has had an easy run for a couple decades with up to 90% world market share. Now other products are taking their share and with the pandemic, I'm now living off savings. Lifes good. I had my day. Time to move on. No complaints.
@pivkaaa
@pivkaaa 4 ай бұрын
I came from Louis Rossmann channel, I stand behind you like Louis.
@simonaustin3551
@simonaustin3551 4 ай бұрын
Same as
@andrewharrison8436
@andrewharrison8436 4 ай бұрын
Ditto - Streisland Effect: trying to suppress information just amplifies it.
@davidwilkinson5714
@davidwilkinson5714 4 ай бұрын
same
@andrewremobs9854
@andrewremobs9854 3 ай бұрын
Me too. Don't back down
@Mikelennon78
@Mikelennon78 4 ай бұрын
The situation is well known within the 4x4 community. The support is astounding.
@Fanta....
@Fanta.... 4 ай бұрын
Together we are strong.
@grievesy83
@grievesy83 4 ай бұрын
In my opinion, if this litigation folly doesn't financially cripple them then the Streisand Effect probably will.
@SKarlo051
@SKarlo051 4 ай бұрын
Imagine this... Me sitting at home in Croatia watching Mr. Rossmann after years of not watching my KZbin subscriptions list just to end up emotionally invested in this that happening all the way around the world from either me or Louis. I have a hunch this is exactly the kind of publicity DCS never wanted to receive, and exactly the kind of publicity it deserved after the litigious actions undertaken. From the bottom of my heart, I want and need you to win this so that we as a whole can continue to have free speech and free access to objective information and not a world where a single thought and a single opinion is valid, and the corporations can do whatever they want. Keep on kicking !
@PickleJelly98
@PickleJelly98 4 ай бұрын
I feel you. I did the same. Religously invested in this case eventhough its been years since i watched Mr. Rossmann
@nvelsen1975
@nvelsen1975 4 ай бұрын
0:45 Hi, Dutch urban planner here. As it happens I work with a nearby municipality and visit Haarlem weekly for meetings, so the adress struck me as odd and I looked it up. The Dutch DCS system adress is questionable: Donkere Spaarne 42 Haarlem is a residential home and the planning permisions (bestemmingsplan) forbid running a business including all forms of retail from there. If they are located there, we would enforce against it. Their phone number starts with 0970, which is a corporate replacement for a mobile phone number; There is no landline in the Haarlem region. Our phone computer logs that if you call DCS Netherlands, it just connects to a computer located in Belgium. Didn't wait for a pickup or reply, but based on this information I am confident calling the Dutch adress a fake.
@NickAskew
@NickAskew 4 ай бұрын
Hi. Looking above the gateway in the middle of 40 and 42, it looks like their are the remains of a sign or logo of a business. But 42 itself looks like it is very residential indeed.
@Chris-Brown-
@Chris-Brown- 4 ай бұрын
Sounds like a witch hunt
@johnsmith9161
@johnsmith9161 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for your efforts.
@1kreature
@1kreature 4 ай бұрын
Is it more expensive to sue without a "local presence" ?
@EthosAtheos
@EthosAtheos 4 ай бұрын
Sometimes I love the internet and its citizens. You are an awesome homosapien sapien.
@renebaur300
@renebaur300 3 ай бұрын
I discovered this issue on a US channel (Will Power) last night, where he discussed the case briefly and then did some testing and a tear down of the battery. While the testing, on a brand new battery not subjected to longer term stresses, seemed okay, the tear down inspection was an eye opener. I’d recommend people go take a look. Keep up the good work, Stephan!
@renebaur300
@renebaur300 3 ай бұрын
Oops... that's Will Prowse!
@rachels209
@rachels209 4 ай бұрын
I shake my head at this whole litigation attempt. Instead of learning of their shortcomings from genuine product reviews and either amending their products (or how they should be used in this case,) they have chosen to destroy their reputation and probably their business model. This now has an international audience watching and waiting, and no prizes for who they hope wins. As an Australian who will probably never have a need for a lithium deep cycle battery, here I am, on KZbin that discovered this kerfuffle via an American content producer. I know plenty of off-roaders and I have told them about this lawsuit. How much damage has DCS done to their business. Even if they win, they still lose.
@G-ra-ha-m
@G-ra-ha-m 4 ай бұрын
A speaker manufacturer tried this with a reviewer recently, as did a guitar tutor company. It never ends up well for the company. Even if they 'win', they lose.
@panadeuser
@panadeuser 4 ай бұрын
There's the unpleasant possibility they already knew about their product issues and had already previously engaged in nefarious cover ups. If that is the case I can only hope ALL those affected speak up
@highlander752
@highlander752 4 ай бұрын
It astounding that DCS are continuing with this litigation given the damage it is causing to their reputation. You would think at some point senior management would see that this is costing more in both reputation and revenue than what they could ever receive in compensation by suing Stephen Fischer. I know I personally would never purchase any of their products. Not for any technical reason but out of principle due to the way they are conducting themselves
@mountainconstructions
@mountainconstructions 4 ай бұрын
Good on you Stefan. Everyone is behind you
@energitrimmeren
@energitrimmeren 4 ай бұрын
As 🇩🇰 electrical engeneerer, looking for next gen battery to my EV6, I stumbled over your original test. Glad I did, and got a proper technical review with relevant data and méthodes of measurement. I might have purchased it despite your results, that I found 30% better than the Led Acid installed in my EV. Unfortunately I find DCS’s behavior towards you and other testers results absolutely unacceptable, why I will refrain from purchasing their products, including my home battery (30 kWh), solely on business methodes. I give you my fully support.
@eGazTheFirstAustralian
@eGazTheFirstAustralian 4 ай бұрын
I agree. Who ever said lead-acids a fail proof? People throw them out like a used tissue. But, Stephan's findings are his and seemingly professional and suing him doesn't make sense.
@andrewford80
@andrewford80 4 ай бұрын
Mate! Your story has gone around the world and you have a ton of support. I hate how litigious the world is getting. You can be sued for someone else's comments? What a ridiculous world we live in these days.
@mickanon5607
@mickanon5607 4 ай бұрын
Completely looney hey? It's like you being held accountable if you yell something in a crowd at a sporting event, and others get riled up and smash a window for example, or start using obscene language etc. It seems the legal system invents ways of always being able to always have work to do, like some huge complex choreographed dance. Like if a programmer purposely embedded code that necessitated emergency callouts for repairs to critical software which costs big dollars, a system that is constantly in need of money being spent therefore keeping people employed, when in essence, they're creating their own work for themselves.
@lauriecetinic-dorol8293
@lauriecetinic-dorol8293 4 ай бұрын
We do not have a.right to free speech in Australia so what you say can get you in trouble 🤷‍♂️
@Nereosis16
@Nereosis16 4 ай бұрын
​@@lauriecetinic-dorol8293that's not how free speech works in the US either btw. We do have a right to free speech against the government and others but that right is not just blanket say whatever you want. That's also the case in the US. Defamation exists in both countries.
@andrewford80
@andrewford80 4 ай бұрын
@@lauriecetinic-dorol8293 you missed my point. That's like saying we dont have free speech in Australia, you can get in trouble for someone else saying something
@CollinBaillie
@CollinBaillie 4 ай бұрын
I think Paul Keating made the perfect description of Australia... Being the ****-end of the world.
@stevematthes4325
@stevematthes4325 4 ай бұрын
I first met John Cadogan in Sydney 4 years ago. We got to talking about cars and got on very well. We met for coffee that evening. We went for a walk in the park, talked about the car industry, held hands and watched the sunset. John is an amazing guy and I will never forget that day.
@robertdarbymusic
@robertdarbymusic 4 ай бұрын
Auto Expert brought me here. The legal stuff is a headache you don't need or deserve. More power to you.
@mickanon5607
@mickanon5607 4 ай бұрын
or less depending on who's battery setup you buy LOL *badoom - tish*
@daveboulton3897
@daveboulton3897 4 ай бұрын
There is no review more important, more valuable, and more useful, than an UNBIASED review. Without content creators, like yourself, providing honest feedback on their experiences, we are at the mercy of the marketing/hidden sponsor departments producing only biased/skewed reviews. Please keep up the good work and thank you for your honest reviews.
@druspork7737
@druspork7737 4 ай бұрын
Your reviews are completely trusted, Stefan. Wish you all the best.
@jjk-9
@jjk-9 4 ай бұрын
I am totally on your side, it's disgusting that your going through this just for being honest. If a company goes after people for honest reviews that show their products in a bad light then how can we trust the good reviews? A company behaving like this puts a huge red flag over them far worse than any negative reviews. They are just shooting themselves in the foot with this stunt. What they should have done is to take a good honest look at the batteries and think, how can we improve these do do what they should do.
@DerykRobosson
@DerykRobosson 4 ай бұрын
Now that John Cardogan has chimed in after Louis Rossmann, I want Dave from EEVBlog to repeat the tests.
@mickanon5607
@mickanon5607 4 ай бұрын
That Rossmann video was a HOOT. I dare you. LOL.
@ElektronDeForza
@ElektronDeForza 4 ай бұрын
Dave is also Australian, maybe he don't want to be a target too
@davidpe76
@davidpe76 4 ай бұрын
@@mickanon5607 Yes that was priceless, Rossmann definitely has brass cojones hehe
@Chris-Brown-
@Chris-Brown- 4 ай бұрын
I want to see dcs sue John and Louis.
@liamcooper6721
@liamcooper6721 4 ай бұрын
Dave must know. Oh I feel another Solar Frickin Roadways coming on.
@adamcoffee738
@adamcoffee738 2 ай бұрын
All the best & I hope this case goes all in your favour. The whole system in Australia is a joke personally I've never dealt with DCS but I've heard some horror stories on various FB groups and now your honest review of DCS has come under fire. The truth hurts. Best of luck.
@muppit666
@muppit666 4 ай бұрын
Found you from a video by Louis Rossmann, one of the first people I saw on KZbin doing the David v Goliath battles. He amazes me how fearless he is when he’s pushed by giant companies and wins his day in court. Wishing you well in your battle. They can’t hurt you for telling the truth. Subscribed so I can follow you to your victory. Good luck.
@thealmightyz73
@thealmightyz73 4 ай бұрын
Rossmann is a beast. May God keep blessing these people.
@darkerbinding6933
@darkerbinding6933 4 ай бұрын
Unfortunately they have already hurt him for telling the truth. Even if he is compensated financially, DCS has taken something from him which can't be replaced, his time.
@jim.franklin
@jim.franklin 4 ай бұрын
Stephan, honesty is king. The support you have received demonstrates that you are not in this alone. I hope common sense prevails and it all just goes away so you are able to continue with your channel in peace. Wish you well, take care.
@acerreteq703
@acerreteq703 4 ай бұрын
Hallo Stefan, Grüße aus Dortmund, Germany 🙂 Habe durch Louis Rossmann von deinem Kampf erfahren. Ich wünsche dir viel Erfolg und letztendlich einen klaren Sieg in dieser Sache. Es muss den verantwortlichen Menschen klar gemacht werden, dass ein solches Vorgehen nicht akzeptabel ist. Ich werde mir jetzt nach und nach deine Videos anschauen und bin gespannt, ob ich die eine oder andere Ecke in der du unterwegs war wiedererkenne. Ich hatte Verwandte in Surfers Paradise QLD und war selbst schon drei mal in Down Under. Bei meinem ersten Besuch 1986 habe ich als Backpacker eine Rundreise über 14000km gemacht und zehre seit dem von diesen Erinnerungen. Ich kann deine Entscheidung dorthin auszuwandern nur zu gut verstehen. No worries mate 🖖
@Nikkska
@Nikkska 4 ай бұрын
You’re always welcome back 🇦🇺😊 I hope to visit Germany too one day, such a beautiful country!
@fredio54
@fredio54 4 ай бұрын
Re your earlier video about the issues in the first place, any LiFePO4 kept in hot conditions will reduce in capacity. Automotive batteries in engine bays are starting banks plain and simple. Capacity is rarely a concern until it gets VERY low. If you have auxiliary uses you're best to out additional batteries in a more hospitable location for capacity uses. I've been running home made LiFePO4 packs in my fleet of vehicles for 4 or 5 years and I do them in a way that no company could warranty. To get best starting performance you MUST have direct connections to the cells. Therefore you get no overcharge and overdischarge protection. I use inexpensive active capacitor balance boards and enable with key in run position so only vehicle parasitic draw is a factor. Over that period I have lost a few cells in exactly two ways. 1 headlights left on, full discharge at high rate, balance board cannot keep up, weakest cell hits zero first, remaining cells pump current through weakest cell backwards which destroys it. In rare cases it can be two vs two. 2. Severe over charging. 18.7v alternator output on our boat killed 8 cells out of 16 in 4s4p configuration. What has never happened is a slow discharge from parasitic current killing cells. I've run many of my packs into the ground multiple times and they've always come up just fine. When discharged slowly with a balance board connected they go down evenly and when without they go down so slowly that the few mA of reverse current doesn't seem to harm them. Is capacity still 8Ah or 16Ah depending on the car? Probably not. Do I care? No. Is current dump ability still what it used to be or similar? Yes, and this is all that matters. I use headway 38120hp cells. I will be putting large capacity prismatic cells in two vehicles one being our 100 series landcruiser, but tge exact capacity will never matter as it will be huge overkill even at 25% of original. Something around 200Ah per side, probably. I'll set them up just like the small cells.
@shanenorwell8580
@shanenorwell8580 4 ай бұрын
Good on you for having the courage to stand your ground mate. This matter has certainly gained a very large audience around the world.
@Tech_Planet
@Tech_Planet 4 ай бұрын
I can tell you from experience that there are the few companies that directly resort to litigation due to constructive criticism. IMO, the companies time/effort/money going to court is better going into developing the product instead. As a publicity standpoint, it raises far more negative response than the negative review itself. You will get through this!
@ExpeditionAustralia
@ExpeditionAustralia 4 ай бұрын
Good luck Stephan. You have a lot of support behind you.
@craigclarke1628
@craigclarke1628 4 ай бұрын
Good luck and I hope you have a rapid resolution to this case.
@iamdamo
@iamdamo 4 ай бұрын
Good to see this case get more and more support. This is what you need to show people this sort of stuff will not be tolerated by companies. The consumer has the right to get an objective and unbiased review to make an informed decision about a potential product purchase. Bravo Sir.
@kepamurray1845
@kepamurray1845 4 ай бұрын
My brother had purchased a setup from DCS and I was about to get a similar setup when I seen Louis Rossmans video about it. I'm not sure I will go with a DCS product until I see the outcome. Thanks for shedding some light on capacity testing.
@ACatKrom
@ACatKrom 4 ай бұрын
outcome of the case shouldn't effect your decision, the fact it was brought at all should
@jjsadv
@jjsadv 4 ай бұрын
This has gone global.. I bet they wish they never started this..
@thealmightyz73
@thealmightyz73 4 ай бұрын
There is a Dutch saying that goes as follows: "Hoogmoed komt voor de val". It means pride/arrogance comes before a fall. And that is exactly what is happening to them. They thought this would be a piece of cake. Wrong thought Sherlock.
@TheTripleDubya
@TheTripleDubya 4 ай бұрын
You’d think that and I did too but these guys seem to be invested in his and their destruction, perhaps they think that winning will earn them some respect but it’s too late for that. Not one of us here would be happy with that outcome at all, in fact I’m of the opinion that we’d all avoid this company in future.
@henrya1051
@henrya1051 4 ай бұрын
I cannot understand why they would not have firstly reached out to you to point out why they take objection to your investigations, testing and published content, given a clear explanation of where (in their opinion) you went wrong and allowed you to correct it and move on. That’s how adulting is done. To simply go straight to court without any form of discussion speaks volumes for who they are and on that basis alone I couldn’t care less if their product was fantastic or complete rubbish I simply wouldn’t touch it due to their questionable corporate behaviour.
@spookyoffroadoverlanding7147
@spookyoffroadoverlanding7147 4 ай бұрын
Hi Stefan and God bless you in defending yourself, your channel and your livelihood. This situation is ridiculous and sad. It is NOT Australian. Your channel is great, reliable and honest with real life applications and reviews. In fact it was your channel that inspired me to bite the bullet and buy a Li battery and the very same DCS battery that you had reviewed. I am sure I am not the only one to do so and DCS should be thankful not litigating. I wanted to buy a quality and reliability Li battery and preferably Australian made. I didn't want to buy Chinese or similar and I preferred local. I thought DCS was the way to go. Your reviews showed exactly what your experience has been when using the batteries as described by DCS and can't possibly be defamatory but is actually your reality. DCS had plenty of opportunity to rectify the situation and I can't understand why they didn't. From what I have seen on DCS FB, they may have defamed you but you didn't litigate them. I have had a similar experience with my battery prematurely failing within the warranty period and it wasn't used under bonnet. My claim has been rejected after less than 200 cycles. I have been told that I didn't use it enough. It sounds like your experience where you used the batteries in the outback too much. Unfortunately I believed what was stated on the Web site being a MINIMUM of 5,000 cycles and 6 times the service life of an AGM and do the job of 18 AGMs. My 2 AGMs under the bonnet are about 2 years older and performing well. I became a member due to your reviews of DCS batteries and some other. I cancelled because I couldn't afford to continue long-term. I have recently reactivated to support you. Hopefully this litigation will end in or before October. You have had 38,000 views in ONE DAY and a huge amount of support including around the world. I think this litigation will damage DCS. I hope that DCS will see a way forward and stop the action against you and fix any issues and honour warranties and become a great Aussie battery manufacturer as they could be. God bless.
@MediaWML
@MediaWML 4 ай бұрын
I found your channel via Louis Rossmann's video. Good luck from the UK.
@deantier61
@deantier61 4 ай бұрын
Sorry your caught up in this situation. I’ve watched many other channels supporting you and will do what I can to spread your story.
@Peter-wc4kr
@Peter-wc4kr 3 ай бұрын
KZbin reviews are a valuable service to the public.
@jamestanner9198
@jamestanner9198 4 ай бұрын
Behind your bid all the way Stefan. Thank you for doing this. A lot of other channels would have thrown in the towel. Hope to see you on Fraser one day and have a beer. Might teach you how to fish.
@AlloffroadAu
@AlloffroadAu 4 ай бұрын
I'd love that
@angusrainbow8853
@angusrainbow8853 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for putting your original video back up as per Louis’s suggestion, it really gives a good back ground for us as a refresh or for those who never were able to see the video.
@Bush-Tv
@Bush-Tv 3 ай бұрын
Mate, Your an inspiration to I say all content creators. Standing up and voicing out honest opinion is our right. The worst part for any business is the spin off effect even without putting a finger to a keyboard or a camera. Stay strong mate.
@michaeldallimore8590
@michaeldallimore8590 4 ай бұрын
Keep up the fight Stephan. You are not alone and many people are watching and supporting you.
@HomesickforAlaska
@HomesickforAlaska 4 ай бұрын
As an older American I cannot even wrap my head around the concept of someone being sued for a comment that another person makes in a comments section of a video. Sadly it would not surprise me to see the same thing here eventually with the current trajectory of the world. When I was growing up in the 60's we had the saying "sticks and stones can break my bones but words can never hurt me". Today it seems the last part has been changed to "but words can DEVASTATE me". And I can sue you if my feelings get hurt. Saw your story on Louis Rossman's channel and subbed to show my support.
@theadvocatesails
@theadvocatesails 4 ай бұрын
Good on you mate. Great to see the overseas support, some great info there.
@ammocraft
@ammocraft 4 ай бұрын
Keep up the great work, and the fight. With the US KZbin channels with millions of viewers now picking this story up, it won’t end well for one of the parties, which must already have lost thousands in sales base don the FB page and comments elsewhere. Now I’m off to donate, as this behaviour needs to be stopped. 👍
@wcbessinger
@wcbessinger 4 ай бұрын
Much respect to you for not backing down. The truth needs to be known, even when it is uncomfortable for some.
@KirbyEnthusiast
@KirbyEnthusiast 4 ай бұрын
We appreciate your honest reviews , you showed all your evidence. I hope this get quashed , companies should not be able to get away with this . Full support from 🇬🇧
@briananddianehardy8598
@briananddianehardy8598 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for taking this stance towards this company, as others have said if they win it will be a huge loss for all of us who use KZbin for a reference. Wishing you all the best in your next court case.
@sforoushani1
@sforoushani1 4 ай бұрын
Supporting you 100%. Consumer access to thorough and unbiased reviews are FUNDAMENTAL to a functioning capitalistic society, ESPECIALLY those that address risks/safety issues. Don't give up, your fight is important to all of us.
@bwshaw5878
@bwshaw5878 4 ай бұрын
I'm here because of Louis Rossmann. We stand with you!
@garryjohnstone2215
@garryjohnstone2215 4 ай бұрын
In my opinion companies should cop a bad review on the chin and use it as motivation to improve their products. Good luck Stephan.
@PotatoSmasher420
@PotatoSmasher420 4 ай бұрын
Not only that, even ignoring it would be thousand times better. This is just a perfect example of the Streisand effect...
@andrewcrofts3266
@andrewcrofts3266 4 ай бұрын
100% agree @garry Sadly it just shows….. This company is doing itself no favours whatsoever. 🤦‍♂️
@getahanddown
@getahanddown 4 ай бұрын
Many do and the 'failure' is forgotten while their improvements are applauded. This case shows a case where they could improve and have amazing free 'honest rugged outback' reviews by a guy proven to speak up if there are issues but no :(
@a9ball1
@a9ball1 4 ай бұрын
Until this happened I had never heard of the Streisand effect.
@timradde4328
@timradde4328 4 ай бұрын
You'd think that would be best.
@JaCee501
@JaCee501 4 ай бұрын
I came across your defamation case via another channel so stopped by to give you my support. I have zero understanding of deep cycle battery technology so my opinions on that aspect of the company are irrelevant. However I have read numerous online reviews of the DCS batteries to gain enough insight to determine I wouldn’t consider buying any of their products based on product quality as well as their - alleged - treatment of customers who’ve had problems. I’m also of the opinion that even if they provided a top quality product I still wouldn’t purchase anything from them based on their law suit brought against you. I’m 100% behind the little guy when it comes to corporate bullying and intimidation so they’re never getting any of my business regardless of what products they’re offering. I have a feeling, that DCS is going to get a serious lesson in the Streisand effect which will likely be more harmful to them than any KZbin reviewer could ever be. So much so, I wouldn’t be surprised if the company completely tanks as more people find out about your legal battle. I wish you the best of luck in being completely vindicated as well as DCS covering all your costs. Cheers
@RichWithTech
@RichWithTech 4 ай бұрын
The best of luck to you Stefan, lots of here from Rossmann's video are rooting for you!
@ThaiXLe
@ThaiXLe 4 ай бұрын
As an American, we hate bullies especially when it comes to speech. Rooting for you.
@darrengrieve4234
@darrengrieve4234 4 ай бұрын
Thank you Stephan for all of your reviews. 4x4 gear and camping gear can be really expensive and it is so frustrating when a product doesn't meet expectations. I watch channels like yours so that I can find out which gear to buy, and more importantly, which gear to avoid! The service you provide is invaluable!
@vmfvictor
@vmfvictor 4 ай бұрын
God bless you sir. your fight is righteous and needs to be shared for all to see. It's really sad to see companies doing this nowadays not realizing that this type of behavior hurts their public image much more than any review from a content creator ever could.
@vassyakun01
@vassyakun01 4 ай бұрын
You’re fighting an upright fight. Accountability is a commodity. Good on you!
@Christopher_S
@Christopher_S 4 ай бұрын
I'm so sorry to hear that you're going through this. I've been keeping up to date with this story since Louis Rossman shared it. You have my support from the other side of the world in wet old England. Hearing about the comment situation blows my mind. There's no common sense behind that ruling at all! I would have appealed that ruling right away if that was said to me. Woah. Either way, keep your chin up mate, you have the support of millions from around the entire globe!
@rodgozzard3997
@rodgozzard3997 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for your excellent content and standing firm on fundamental matters of principal
@Bearded-Logic
@Bearded-Logic 4 ай бұрын
We're all here to support you in any way we can. Thank you for providing unbiased product reviews. Keep up the good work.
@tanvirkhan8702
@tanvirkhan8702 4 ай бұрын
Crossing my fingers for you mate. Thanks for the update!!
@3801heavy
@3801heavy 4 ай бұрын
Thankyou Stefan. Too many vendors treat customers as a post sale annoyance.
@thomascoates3091
@thomascoates3091 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for your reviews, they're great to watch. Wishing you all the best.
@Obsid_Ian
@Obsid_Ian 4 ай бұрын
I have no idea why this came up on my feed but for whatever reason, the algorithm is in your favour and I wish you all the best in obtaining a successful outcome.
@UNSINKABLEII
@UNSINKABLEII 4 ай бұрын
You are gaining so much traction on this Stephan, you will nail this decision.
@StokesCrew
@StokesCrew 4 ай бұрын
Having watched your content for many years now Stefan I’m impressed by your integrity & meticulous consideration for accurately presenting information. I wish you all the very best in your case.
@chrissolum8323
@chrissolum8323 4 ай бұрын
I wish you all the success in this matter. Fair commentary and critique of products, companies and companies is essential to a proper functioning society.
@surfyjosh
@surfyjosh 4 ай бұрын
I can’t believe they haven’t dropped this yet it must be a PR nightmare, Keep going Stefan don’t back down💪
@jason_tarr
@jason_tarr 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the update! Been following your story since Louis brought it to light. Best of luck with your case and keeping your integrity and honest review!
@ninakore
@ninakore 4 ай бұрын
Heard about this from Louis Rossman. Glad to see you have so much support from around the world.
@benmorrison9004
@benmorrison9004 4 ай бұрын
I've shared your videos on this matter far and wide wherever I can. I've noticed a bunch of small aussie KZbinrs making videos highlighting your plight as well as some larger overseas channels too. It's great to see people helping you out with this issue. I hope that you win this next court battle and we can all go back to the trails. Best of luck with everything 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞
@tjayliffe
@tjayliffe 4 ай бұрын
I've always found you reviews so detailed, analytical and thorough. I feel it's pretty clear that anyone who's watched your videos knows that the facts and truth are your primary goals when undertaking reviews, and that leaves virtually no room for a biased opinion. I have no doubt the outcome of this unfortunate approach will be in your favour. Keep up the good work 🙏🏻
@darrenbird2526
@darrenbird2526 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for not backing down Stefan, the support shows you've made the right decision. Good luck! Although I don't believe you'll need it! Cheers mate!
@duncanbuchanan218
@duncanbuchanan218 4 ай бұрын
You are doing a great job, detailed honest comment is valauble. It is up to us as viewers to decide if any reviewer is credible and in line with our own values. the internet is the wild west, so everything is about the credibility and demonstrated values of the content creator. Regardless of what anyone posts, its important we all take in a variery of views, for that to happen we need content creators to have freedom to do what they do - as long as its done in good faith and without commercial interferance.
@trevorsmith9251
@trevorsmith9251 4 ай бұрын
All the best Stefan, honest companies work with customers to find a resolution that both parties can accept
@LoganJohnson-lm2bh
@LoganJohnson-lm2bh 4 ай бұрын
From the U.S.A. I became aware of this only today and posted comments for this one i will say only this yu are doing good and important work for the benefit of everyone .I wish you the best at the next hearing people like you are essential in informing the public on the quality of the products we buy .whether it be for the good or bad .I am 67 years old and retired long haul trucker of 45 years . and seniors are most vulnerable to this kind of issue .
@dave24-73
@dave24-73 4 ай бұрын
Good luck with the case, it’s a shame companies like DCS think this is the correct course of action, as false reviews also open you up for legal action, it seems like with the current state of affairs content creators can’t win, so a win might just set a precedence and offer clarity in the future for all content creators. Once again good luck, let’s hope you come away with a win, and in turn a clear precedence that others can point to, to possibly stop others going after content makers.
@stevenford4719
@stevenford4719 4 ай бұрын
I heard about this because of Louis Rossmann . I wish you all the best and I hope that sensibility prevails & you win this case.
@caseygoh2225
@caseygoh2225 4 ай бұрын
Your reviews have been of a much higher standard than many on KZbin. We support you all the way as we absolutely have benefited from your videos and reviews in the past. I'm so glad you decided to put the original video back up. I can only wonder how many smaller reviewers out there had caved under the pressure so i hope you will inspire others and set a new precedence to follow.
@MrHammer1961
@MrHammer1961 4 ай бұрын
I stand with you Stephan. Good to see the support being offered to you from around the globe.
@dgs0011
@dgs0011 4 ай бұрын
Be well . Please take care of yourself and continue to provide a quality channel with integrity and respect.
@cyclemoto8744
@cyclemoto8744 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for continuing to share your story. Honest, unbiased, critical reviews of products should be a fundamental right of any individual without any negative repercussions. Keep up the great work Stefan! Cheers
@deebee5236
@deebee5236 4 ай бұрын
You’re a genuine, good, honest bloke who’s creating quality content, keep up the good work mate all the best
@mmmmdeliciousbacon
@mmmmdeliciousbacon 4 ай бұрын
Dear Stefan. I have never commented on your videos ever beforehand. Your site and your posts are nothing but useful, balanced and objective. You are someone who I have observed over many years, to make honest and nothing other than factual reviews of products. I have actually used your reviews to engage with vendors to discuss purchasing 4wd products to fit to my 4wd, and in doing so, to discuss pros and cons. In a constructive, factual manner leading to a purchase, or not. I have no need to purchase battery systems, and I have not seen the video(s) of concern here. It is of concern that such a person with your professionalism and high integrity is being challenged here. Such biases are not obvious in your content I have seen. You say it how it is, in a professional and courteous manner. For that, I thank you, and I wish more content producers were as professional as you.
@oldbloke204
@oldbloke204 4 ай бұрын
I've been watching this unfold and also seen the support from some very big channels overseas. Great to see tbh. I can't even imagine this will be costing in terms of lost sales and goodwill when it could have been an opportunity to look at how the product can be improved. There's a lot of noise around this technology in so many industries/uses so the industry needs good news stories and not this sort of thing imo. Cheers.
@mikeyhau
@mikeyhau 4 ай бұрын
DCS is learning the meaning of the "Streisand effect".
@nonyadamnbusiness9887
@nonyadamnbusiness9887 4 ай бұрын
Best case of the Streisand effect since Babs tried to hide her house. I wish DCS was publicly traded, I short all the stock I could borrow.
@barrabadgesAust
@barrabadgesAust 4 ай бұрын
Good luck mate. you've got the world behind you.
@Luke-ld5sv
@Luke-ld5sv 4 ай бұрын
Good luck mate, wish you all the best with the case.
@thinpins1
@thinpins1 4 ай бұрын
Hi Stefan, It’s great to see the support that is building behind you in this difficult situation. May logic prevail.
@bucharestbiketraffic
@bucharestbiketraffic 4 ай бұрын
I wish you all the best Stefan, hope everything will turn up fine for you.
@thlim1460
@thlim1460 4 ай бұрын
Dear Stephan, you’ve my support. It is always great to hear the truth!
@botarakutabi1199
@botarakutabi1199 4 ай бұрын
Glad the community is helping with your plight! I also really love your motto, "My commitment to you is to continue delivering unbiased honest feedback based on factual information."
@VideoShowMeHow
@VideoShowMeHow 4 ай бұрын
All the best again Stephan at the hearing, sainty should prevail here surely!
@scod3908
@scod3908 4 ай бұрын
Good luck mate! Based on internet search of the company name, DCS appears to be a global multi-national company with employees working under the DCS name across the globe (judging by contact information for DCS posted on their own websites, DCS is active in at least a dozen countries). Whether that is relevant is up to the court to decide! Looking forward to updates, following closely!
@Kurlzero
@Kurlzero 4 ай бұрын
Just sharing my support. We need independent reviewers more than ever (and more in Australia!). Good luck!
@patricksanders4538
@patricksanders4538 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for your continuing battle in this matter. It is cases like these that can really alter the way consumers are treated by companies.
@rvrski1
@rvrski1 4 ай бұрын
I applaud your openness and willingness to challenge what is an attack on speech.
@mikelastname
@mikelastname 4 ай бұрын
Glad I can support you in some small way Stephan - your commentary and opinions over the years have been both entertaining and useful and I hope you are vindicated in court and continue to bring your brand of ethical review to us all.
@pinkfloyd7572
@pinkfloyd7572 4 ай бұрын
Your situation is being seen worldwide and everyone agrees you are 100% in the right and "that battery company" is 100% in the wrong. And thanks to Louis Rossman for making this situation known to millions.
@hsteinbo
@hsteinbo 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the update, and I hope that the little I did will help you to get through this. Although I am not a typical member of your audience, I do believe in the importance of unbiased reviews without permanently facing the the risk of being sued. Good luck!
@lindsaysmith7761
@lindsaysmith7761 4 ай бұрын
Came here from Will Prowse video. The stress you must be under is enormous. Keep your spirits up.
@AlloffroadAu
@AlloffroadAu 4 ай бұрын
Thank you, I will
@Alasdair-Morrison
@Alasdair-Morrison 4 ай бұрын
Any business that has such desires to silence and sue a decent honest person for fair unbiased and truthful opinion eview deserves what ever comes to them! Let the power of the people be on your side!!
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