WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SEATTLE PILOTS? // RELOCATED: A SEATTLE PILOTS DOCUMENTARY

In this All Sports History video we'll look back at what happened to the Seattle Pilots team when they ran into issues with their aging stadium, "Sick's Stadium", and how it eventually forced them into bankruptcy.
Here's what this "Seattle Pilots History" video covers:
After several years of trying to attract a Major League Baseball team to the city, Seattle finally got their team when the Pilots began play in 1969. So what exactly happened that led to the team moving away after only one season? In Today’s video we’ll take a look back at how the Pilots' issues with their aging stadium caused a serious financial strain on the team.
Only lasting one season, some might ask Seattle Pilots became what team exactly and what happened to this club? We'll start by taking a look back Seattle's earliest baseball teams, the Seattle Clamdiggers, Indians, Rainiers and eventually the Pilots. In 1938 businessman Emil Sick bought the Rainiers and helped turn the team into a championship club winning several Pacific Coast League titles throughout the 1940's and 50's. Sick also invested in the team by building a brand new stadium named, "Sick's Stadium" that would ultimately become home to the Seattle's first MLB team the Pilots. Seattle Pilots 1969 expansion would be joined by three other teams, the Montreal Expos, San Diego Padres, and the Kansas City Royals. Originally thought of as a temporary home (while the Pilots would attempt to get a new stadium built,), the team ran into issues with Sicks Stadium Seattle almost immediately durning their debut season in 1969. Problems with Seattle Pilots Sicks stadium's plumbing, poor sight lines, and barely enough seats to fill a major league stadium, cost the Pilots hundreds of thousands of dollars in their first season. Bleeding money, and poor attendance at Seattle Pilots games, the team's owners quickly looked to sell the team but ran into opposition from Washington States two senators who helped pursue legal action to stop the sale of the team. With all other avenues exhausted, the Pilots had no choice but to declare bankruptcy, where a court ruled that the club could be sold to car salesman Bud Selig (who then in turn moved the Pilots to Milwaukee). By the late 1970's, Seattle got a new brand new expansion club and stadium, the Seattle Mariners Kingdome. Seattle Pilots baseball lasted just one season in Seattle before becoming the Milwaukee Brewers, but their legacy lives on to this day, as the Brewers still wear the blue and gold of the original Pilots colors.
So what did you guys think about the Seattle Pilots move to Milwaukee and becoming the Brewers? Also, what did you think about Bud Selig almost buying the White Sox and moving them instead? Let me know in the comments below!
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WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SEATTLE PILOTS? // RELOCATED: A SEATTLE PIOTS DOCUMENTARY

[@AllSportsHistory]

Hey Sports Historians! What did you think of the Pilots moving to Milwaukee from Seattle? And what did you think of Bud Selig almost buying the White Sox and moving them instead?

[@daBEAGLE1017]

Ive seen many Brewer vs Sox games throughout the 80s-90s and the crowds were always rowdy. The Brewers vs Cub fans doesnt even come close. Cub fans are good people. Good video and love from Milwaukee.

[@stanleyhall8951]

It would have been cool if the Pilots could have played longer in Seattle, but they are now a historical team that only played one year in the northwest.

[@michaelleroy9281]

The American League said no to the White Sox moving to Milwaukee Arthur Allyn sold the team to his brother John

[@robertsprouse9282]

I still haven't gotten over the NBA HAWKS moving two cities ago from the TRI-CITIES, or the KINGS way down the line, two cities ago, moving from ROCHESTER. Naaaah, I'm just kiddin'. Great trivia question: HOW MANY NBA TEAMS HAVE HAD THE SAME FULL NICKNAME AS AN NHL TEAM?

[@mickylawless1941]

I was gutted when the Pilots left for Milwaukee. My dad, one of my younger brothers and I regularly to games that summer. My aunt was the nurse there at the stadium medical office. So she was able to provide free tickets for us whenever we wanted to go to a game. We recieved a couple of autographed baseballs and two baseball bats with autographs from the first baseman Don Mincher and Tommy Harper. Those were glory days for me.

[@johnterry4987]

It would be cool if the next time the brewers and Mariners played that they both wore pilots throwback, home and away.

[@jamesthomas7405]

Good 💡idea!!

[@mickylawless1941]

Oh hell yes! That would make me very happy!

[@dwlopez57]

Unfortunately the Ms are in 5he American League and the Breweres area National League team so they will rarely play each other. However the Mariners have worn Pilots on throwback day.

[@bemore1134]

I like it.

[@imdeplorable2241]

Love it! Great idea.👍 ( Love their road unies )

[@richardsiemion5903]

Amazing video. I loved it. One thing you left out is the fact Seattle was not supposed to start playing until the 71 season which was the originally timeline for the AL expansion. Both NL teams were slated for 69 and this enraged KC baseball fans who just lost their team to Oakland and still had a strong support and history of baseball. Politicians pressured the MLB to move their start up and all 4 teams entered the league at the same time not only watering down the talent and Potential for a decent team but really made it impossible for Seattle to fix the stadium issue. They lost their team before they were originally planned to start.

[@kurtshellhorn7636]

In the 1968 Expansion Draft, The Pilots took a pretty good player in the name of Lou Piniella but traded him to KC just before opening day in 1969. He came back to Seattle as manager for ten seasons.

[@michaelmapes4119]

Yeah and then started pulling a Ken Griffey Jr (crying he wanted to go home) and had three subpar years with the Rays. Now M's fans only see him pitching retirement apartments on TV!

[@camoss3724]

Yep, they traded Piniella for Jim Wohlford. Not exactly Brock for Broglio.

[@monabiehl6213]

I lived in Alaska and the Pilots were the baseball we got in Alaska. The Pilots' games were on the radio on the weekends. I remember being told during spring training the Pilots would remain in Seattle one more year. I was relieved and then out of the blue, it was announced they were moving to Milwaukee. this was heartbreaking.

[@tedmulthauf7434]

Growing up in Milwaukee, the Braves broke my heart. In 1970, when the Brewers arrived, I was 13. We didn’t know we had a baseball team until the 6:00 news the day before the opener. The team flew into Mitchell field, about a mile from my house, at about 10:30 pm. I set my alarm, and got up to go greet the team. I ran into my Dad, who was watching Carson, and got the “What the hell do you think you’re doing?” thing. I explained, and he said “Why didn’t you say so”. He came with me to walk the four blocks to Howell avenue to see the busses go by on their way to the Pfister. We may well be the first people to cheer for that team.

[@rickrose5377]

Now THAT'S a great reminiscence. And as I write this, the Dodgers are in Milwaukee, and Mookie Betts refuses to stay with the team at the Pfister, because he has heard that it's haunted.

[@paulwhite7924]

Great old father/ son story there

[@SwayneIII]

So sad the old Sick's Stadium is now a Lowes.

[@wi54725]

People that had tickets to the home opening series at Sick's Stadium arrived on opening day to discover their seats did not exist. I know two of them.

[@bemore1134]

At least they could go use the bathroom while the problem got sorted out. As long as there weren't 10 grand in the stands, apparently.

[@user-yg1mh1sz8n]

I remember the Pilots and can't believe how Seattle lost that team after just one season. That's so screwed up 😮

[@vinceniederman]

That Was So Crazy After One Year For The Pilots Before Moving To Milwaukee!

[@The1DonG]

Bud Selig may have looked like a Drew Carey doll back then, but he spent his years as commissioner looking like a Scooby-Doo villain.

[@michaelleroy9281]

Selig wasn't my Bud! Hahaha 😂

[@michaelbaucom4019]

One other piece of Seattle Pilots trivia: one of the players on that team was pitcher Jim Bouton, who wrote the famous( to some, infamous) baseball book " Ball Four "( and a sequel)... part of the book was about his time with Seattle

[@christopheroliver2465]

Several sequels: "I'm Glad You Didn't Take It Personally" along with 10-year updates for several decades leading to its finale "Ball Four: The Final Pitch".

[@billslocum9819]

"Ball Four" may be THE legacy of the Pilots, even with their uniform colors being continued by the Brewers to the present. It's maybe the most culturally significant baseball book ever, and it's centered around the Pilots' season (even if the best remembered stuff in it is about the Yankees.)

[@christopheroliver2465]

@@billslocum9819 Most agreed.

[@wmw3629]

“Let’s go pound some Budweisers!” Joe (Ol’ SF or FS) Joe Schultz

[@michaelleroy9281]

He was traded to the Astros during the 1969 season

[@manuelramos3588]

Both the Brewers & Pilots have had amazing looking uniforms.

[@algeborusas1883]

I always wondered why the Pilots lasted only year in Seattle. Politics and money!

[@rockvilleraven]

A terrible stadium as well.

[@michaelleroy9281]

And Ownership

[@bemore1134]

And low attendance. And no money. And a new stadium plan that was kinda shaky.

[@Classicrocker6119]

This is an extremely well done documentary about not only the short tenure of the Pilots but the rich history of baseball in Seattle. I can only imagination what it had to be like for a MLB franchise in spring training to not know which city they’re starting the season in. I definitely agree with the previous comments below that the Pilots jersey and cap looked pretty sharp. Thanks for posting.

[@AllSportsHistory]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!

[@tonyarceneaux286]

@@AllSportsHistory Can you do the world hockey association?

[@jimburow706]

I was born in 67, in Milwaukee, so I’ve been a Brewer fan all my life. I didn’t know that the pilots had only been a team for one year prior to going to Milwaukee. Thanks for the info. Now if my Brewers could finally win a World Series…

[@AllSportsHistory]

It’ll happen someday!

[@vinceniederman]

@@AllSportsHistoryWhich Other Sports Relocation Videos Do U Have in Mind?

[@alkitzman9179]

Nice job on this story . I am from Milwaukee and remember this when it happened. I was 8. I snuck a transistor radio into my desk at school with a earpiece to listen to the Opening Day game. Andy Messersmith threw a 2 hitter at the Brewers in a 12-0 shutout for the Angels. Still waiting for the Brewers/Pilots first World Series win

[@bemore1134]

Ah, the memories!!!!! I was in 6th grade. I don't think I snuck in a radio, but I remember hearing at one point it was 6-0 Angels. Obviously it got worse lol. My older sister was at that inaugural game. She's a current season tix holder (partial).

[@buggyapp]

I still have numerous baseball cards of Pilot players such as Don Minchner and Tony Harper and was upset when they moved to Milwaukee. This is a good video of what happened to the team.

[@robertbuck1874]

Tommy Harper

[@daBEAGLE1017]

What people dont know is that The Milwaukee Brewers had been around since 1902 in the American Association League.

[@MrSTOUT73]

Yes, a few of us do know. LOL

[@ozzmania08]

San Diego Padres was also a minor league team before they became a MLB team and Ted Williams played in the team before he went to Boston

[@plazmacube6167]

The Padres were a Minor League Team? Unfortunately I don't know if that ever changed lol

[@ozzmania08]

@@plazmacube6167 They were part of the Pacific Coast League (PCL)

[@dr.migilitoloveless2385]

San Diego was the triple A affiliate of the Phillies in the mid and late 60s.

[@kevinjs26]

God the Brewers logo is just a thing of beauty.

[@Integrityfleetservices]

Went to several Pilots games as a kid. Got my love of baseball at Sicks Stadium.

[@kdkatz-ef2us]

I was at their last game and remember the marquee outside the stadium: "See you next year!"

[@bemore1134]

Kinda interesting, but the Seattle Pilots actually played in Milwaukee. Once. They met the White Sox at County Stadium on June 16th, 1969.

[@rrflood]

As a 10 year old boy in 1970, Bud Selig broke my heart. I had gone to 7 Pilots games in 1969 and really had taken to Baseball. A better ownership group should have been in place.

[@sjdrifter72]

The Pilots had nice looking jerseys, better than the Mariners.

[@AllSportsHistory]

Yeah I really like the royal blue and gold as well.

[@christopheroliver2465]

Yes, but Jim Bouton had to change from his old dark blue undershirts to the royal blue undershirts.

[@c.l.freeman7654]

That's how the Brewers got those colors. They didn't have time to order all new uniforms before the first season, so they took the Seattle off and put milwaukee on the old uniforms

[@imdeplorable2241]

@@c.l.freeman7654 Yup. You can see it in the sleeve stripes.

[@panowa8319]

The AL knew Seattle wasn't ready, yet they had to cave in the demands from some senator from Missouri. Instead of Seattle, they could have chosen either Milwaukee, Denver or Dallas-Ft. Worth (which the second Washington Senators did a couple years later), or any other city with a suitable stadium and large TV market.

[@michaelleroy9281]

The original plan was expansion in 1971 but the senator wanted it now which would be 1969 which also forced the NL to add San Diego and Montreal

[@samuelmoulds1016]

yeah, during those talks about adding Denver, The Sporting News said, "The air in Denver is so thin, anything hit in the second deck would have to ruled a ground rule double."

[@Vintage_Dave_T]

I was born and raised in Washington, but was living on the East Coast in 1969. Moving back in 1970. I’ve been a huge baseball fan since I was a little boy. I was very disappointed in not being able to see the Pilots, which would’ve been my first MLB game.

[@michaelleroy9281]

Fun Fact: the only player who played for both the Pilots and Mariners was Diego Segui ( pitcher)

[@akummo_was_not_here]

Hey Like the sports history can you do the California Golden Seals?

[@AllSportsHistory]

Yes absolutely!

[@CVBASEBALLCARDCOLLECTOR]

No SF Seals?

[@michaelleroy9281]

Especially the 2 years as the Cleveland Barons

[@thiswasabadidea8592]

As a Brewers fan, I see this as a Brewers documentary

[@AllSportsHistory]

As you should!

[@AllSportsHistory]

As you should!

[@Irisheddy]

The Pilots baseball cap was awesome

[@dwlopez57]

Not only did San Diego and Seattle get expansion baseball teams at the same time, but they both got new NBA teams simultaneously. The Rockets didnt last long in SD before skipping to Houston. The Sonics, though were hugely popular in Seattle drawing record crowds in the early 1980s..in the mid 90s the Sonics got a newly furnished arena that was exactly what they asked for including a design that would preclude the NHL coming in. But a few years later, like the child who's tired of their Christmas gift by New Year's it wasnt good enough for them. When the city, county and state pointed out that it was too soon for them to have another new arena instead of being sold to people who would keep them in Seattle they were sold and moved to another city where thankfully they havent won a championship. Meanwhile the Kings were playing in the oldest arena in the league and not being supported by their community so a deal was made to sell the team and move it to Seattle. But the evil commissioner, who seemed to hate Seattle vetoed the deal. The Kings got a new arena. Sorry to go so off topic but the story needs to be known.

[@Jleed989]

I remember the Buffalo Braves moving to San Diego and becoming the clippers but I don’t remember the year

[@perceivedvelocity9914]

100% truth! Now the NBA is using Seattle to scare other cities. If a city does not want to pay for a new arena the NBA threatens to move their team to Seattle. The con men who run the NBA are using Seattle to blackmail the fans of other team's.

[@dwlopez57]

@@perceivedvelocity9914 common practice among sports leagues. Many places want a team.

[@MarloSoBalJr]

@@perceivedvelocity9914 its Vegas or Seattle but I don't think NBA is expanding beyond 30 teams. The Grizzlies and Pelicans are nearing their leases so I believe either those two are heading to Seattle and/or Vegas respectively

[@sandyboggs8099]

1978

[@perceivedvelocity9914]

Thank you for covering this. It's a good summary of what lead up to the Pilots and why they were moved to Milwaukee.

[@cdavid8139]

I was living in Seattle that summer and went to several games. Still have some programs

[@jacksmith5692]

I used to correspond with Jim Bouton all the time via his ball four e-mail. Great guy who always answered me back. We both agreed that Marvin Miller would have passed away before he was put in the HOF. That was tragic and I asked Jim if Bobby Shantz was the little lefty he wrote about in Ball Four who was the Beaver Shooting king equipped with his own Beaver Shooting kit. Jim wrote back he is the guy Jack, very good.

[@jswaggart01]

Was this the kit that included little dental mirrors for looking under doors or the one with binoculars and a telescope, which then produced the comment "Scope me!"?

[@jacksmith5692]

@@jswaggart01 Yeah he would sprinkle coins on the floor so if anyone walked by it would explain why he was on his hands and knees in front of hotel doors. Also evidently the older hotels had doors off the ground and not snug and a little mirror on the floor under the door would show the entire room or enough to spy inside from the hall. He wrote the Shoreham hotel in DC was the best for beaver shooting because it had many wings and angles to look into rooms from the roof. Bouton wrote here I am a rookie and the Yankees led by Mickey Mantle would be on the roof of the Shoreham in DC and someone would shout over to the left or over to the right whatever and everyone would be looking in a babes room.

[@jswaggart01]

@@jacksmith5692 great stories of the high jinx they got up to lol. I don’t have the book, just the audiobook which is narrated by Bouton and I’m listening to it again for about the 20th time.

[@jacksmith5692]

@@jswaggart01 I'm a nut, every spring in March or so I will pick up Ball Four and read it again to get ready for the new season. Jim was so flattered when I e-mailed him that years ago. I've been reading Ball Four for over 45 years now. I picked it up in a bookstore around 1976. The late Bill Freehan wrote a book also about the 1969 season called Behind the Mask that my Dad bought for me in 1970 when I was 8 and it was similar to Ball Four but much much calmer with few juicy details. The worse thing was McLain was selfish and an asshole who Boog Powell owned and Lolich was jealous and Mayo Smith knew shit about pitching. He had the great Johnny Sain as his pitching coach and Sain is probably the best pitching coach in history but he didn't believe in running the pitchers and he was always fighting management. Sain took off one day and the team was in a slump so Mayo Smith took the pitchers and ran their asses off. Sain returns the next day and the pitchers are all pissed off and he goes into Smith's office ripping his ass off. He said something like do we use my methods that had the best staff in 1968 and won a WS or your bullshit that had shitty Detroit staffs since 1946. Less than a month later Sain quit and Detroit finished a distant second to Baltimore. I still have Behind the Mask and it's ok but not funny like Ball Four is. I can still read Ball Four and start laughing out loud it is that funny. With today's WOKE bullshit 99% of the book would be banned and Bouton banned and cancelled!

[@dingdong7610]

Seattle is the city that got expansion franchises the same years as the only 2 Canadian franchises got expansion teams.

[@christopheroliver2465]

"Scoop" Jackson; now that's a name!

[@dwlopez57]

He had delivered newspapers in his youth

[@casual-bat-man]

Somebody I'm related to played for the white Sox, cardinals, and pilots, I also got his 1st homerun ball which was passed down to me, thought that was really cool

[@reedr7142]

The Pilots’ departure gave us one of the best logos in professional sports.

[@tonyarceneaux286]

Thank you All Sports History.

[@dennisud]

Excellent saga! Thanks!

[@deonal]

Love sports history and great job. Sadly Montreal would eventually lose their franchise too from that expansion group.

[@michaelleroy9281]

San Diego Padres came close to moving to Washington in 1974, baseball was not a big hit in SD right away

[@deonal]

@@michaelleroy9281 Interesting and of course Montreal would land there. I miss the Expos!

[@tomryan914]

Buffalo held a grudge against the Expos. "Should be OUR expansion franchise!!!" Would there be the future Blue Jays???

[@robertsprouse9282]

The original Milwaukee American League team was also called the BREWERS. That team operated in Beertown for, if memory serves, one or two seasons before moving to ST. LOUIS where it took the original name of the CARDINALS, the BROWN STOCKINGS, and shortened it to BROWNS. Eventually, the team moved to BALTIMORE in 1954, and today, they are the hapless BALTIMORE ORIOLES. The name for the latter came from the NATIONAL LEAGUE team that played in BALTY in the 1890's for almost ten seasons. Then, when the WESTERN LEAGUE minor league applied for MAJOR LEAGUE STATUS, the loop changed its name to the AMERICAN LEAGUE and had a team in B-MORE known as the ORIOLES. However, the team did not draw well, and after one season, moved to NY CITY where they were first known as the HIGHLANDERS for their relatively speaking, much higher elevation at now defunct Hilltop Park, not the POLO GROUNDS #1, 2, 3, or 4 ballpark location. Eventually, that team took the nickname that the sportswriters gave them, and dropped HIGHLANDERS for the YANKEES, on their way to moving to the BRONX area of NEW YORK CITY.. Finally, in the days before farm clubs, minor league teams were virtually all not owned, nor ran by major league teams and not affiliated player-wise. Such was the case for the new startups, the MILWAUKEE BREWERS IN THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION(defunct today, only an independent league carries the first part of the name= A.A. of INDEPENDENT BASEBALL CLUBS= adding "Independent"..that early AMER. ASSN was named after a defunct major league competitor of the early NATIONAL LEAGUE...a few of today's MAJ. LEAGUE teams began in the A.A. of the 1880's and early1890's..) in the very early 1900's until the affilations began in the '30's, into the 1950's when the BRAVES NL MLB'ers came to town from BOSTON and the MILWAUKEE BREWERS moved to ATLANTA(the Braves future home beginning in 1966) and became one of their top farm teams; and, the BALTIMORE ORIOLES who were an independent MINOR LEAGUE team until they signed a player development contract in the 1930's, on their way to being in the old INTERNATIONAL LEAGUE(today called TRIPLE-A EAST)affiliated teams' league. In the early 19-teens one of their young players was G.H."BABE" RUTH.. The Orioles paid better than most Maj.LB teams did, and its one reason why HALL PITCHER, LEFTY GROVE did not debut in the majors until he was in his late twenties. One more thing, when ORIOLES third baseman player-manager, JOHN MCGRAW left to go to NEW YORK in the NL, he brought with him many of his old ORIOLES 1890's players. He eventually retired and strictly was a manager for the NY GIANTS, the most successful NL CLUB in the early portion of the first decade of the 20th.century. Later, they changed their colors from blue and red to black and orange. Was that a tribute to the ORIOLES? I don't know. And, if you didn't already, now you know the rest of the hiSTORY.. GOOD.....DAYYY??!!

[@aspenrebel]

And the Braves were in Boston. At old Braves Field, which Boston Univ grew up around and the Mass Pike went by.

[@joespitler3929]

Damn dude you know a thing or 2 about a thing or 2 when it comes to baseball.

[@robertsprouse9282]

​@@aspenrebel, did you know that the BRAVES club began as an openly professional non-minor league (MAJOR LEAGUE baseball as a name was not officially called that until the 1903 agreement between the NL AND A.L. to leave each others under contract players alone) outfit in CINCY as the RED STOCKINGS in 1869 in the NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF PRO BASE BALL(two words back then) LEAGUE(known beginning in 1870 as the NATIONAL ASSOC.) a league that spun off of the pro division of the NATL. AASOC. OF BASE BALL PLAYERS, the latter was mostly an amateur league of scattered leagues and independent teams, even though some players were paid below the table; did you know that? After a fire destroyed the CINCY ballpark in 1870, the team suspended play for the entire season and moved to..BOSTON in 1871 where in the NAT. ASSN. it was known as the BOSTON RED STOCKINGS, only to change their name to among other things, BEES, and finally to BRAVES in the early 1900's. The change in 1912 came as a result of a new owner, a Democrat city councilman in NY CITY who came from the corrupt political machine there known as TAMMANY HALL. TAMMANY was a name derived from a LENAPE tribe "NATIVE" CHIEF named TAMINEND. He was ruthless to the point of killing members of his own tribe if they got in his way, and helped to murder other tribes' villagers as he stole their lands and expanded his own. The BIG CHIEF INDIAN HEAD LOGO was adopted by TAMMANY HALL DEMS. Gee, I wonder why, and I wonder if the DEM party has changed its ruthless reputation? 🤔... Meanwhile, the BOSTON BRAVES, then REDSKINS of the NFL who initially shared their home field with the BASEBALL BRAVES/BEES, called themselves at first= BRAVES because of their owner G.P. MARSHALL's liking of the name, showing a sharing of the ballpark with the NL baseballers, only to convert to REDSKINS to remove the eventual confusion that they were actually fully connected as a business with the BASEBALL BRAVES. The BRAVES may have also threatened to sue the football club, too. And, not able to be fiscally successful and to get out of the BRAVES shadow, the team left for WASHINGTON D.C. just a few seasons later in 1937, later changing their name to COMMANDERS, which was supposedly an avoidance move for not offending "native" tribes, while paying tribute to the president of the U.S. and the commanders in the nation's military, the same military whose 19th. century ARMY COMMANDERS shot and killed "native" INDIANS. NOW, that is irony. A couple of more things: INDIANS is not a derogatory term because it came from ITALIAN BORN SPANISH explorer COLUMBUS and his men in his and their journals, saying that Carribean/CEN. AMERICAN natives were "GENTE EN DIOS"= PEOPLE OF GOD OR GODLIKE PEOPLE. Its a myth that COLUMBUS named them due to his false impression that he was in INDIA. There was no country called INDIA in 1492. It was called HINDUSTAN back then. The conquering Brits centuries later after the country went through several name changes, called it INDIA because most artifacts showed that centuries before, the country's first folks came from the country's INDUS RIVER REGION. The Indus river's name likely came from their hINDU religion. That's right, the EAST INDIAN TRADING COMPANY which began after COLUMBUS laid down the trade routes and mapped them out for SPAIN, came from "EN DIOS", not "INDIA". The WEST INDIES island group in the Carribean comes from EN DIOS(OF GOD). And, one more thing..the A.L. BOS. RED SOX eventually called themselves that after BEANEATERS, PILGRIMS, RUSTLERS, etc, were used as their nicknames. That change happened shortly before the BEES/RED STOCKINGS changed to BRAVES in the second decade of the 20th.century. And, a "native" Indian group is now suing the COMMANDERS for wiping out the nickname REDSKINS and the face of an actual well known INDIAN CHIEF who was alive in 1971=that Indian face was on the team's helmet from '71 until three or four seasons ago. The " native" group suing also loves the name that.. THEY CALL THEMSELVES- REDSKINS. They take pride in it. The ones that fought to change INDIANS to GUARDIANS, and REDSKINS TO another name that eventually ended up as.. COMMANDERS, are a lefty INDIAN/"native" outfit funded by groups connected with..tada!= GEORGE SOROS/ GYORGI SCHWARTZ, who backs Dems. Now, you know the other part of the story. And.. No group in NORTH AMERICA is of a true a "native" distinction. Archaeologists have proven that landbridges above water back then at the straits, and dried papyrus boats from EURASIA, ASIA, and some MIDDLE EAST- EURO regions actually brought the so-called natives here. Yep.. Did you know that?

[@davidswift7776]

Excellent insight, well done…. Enjoyed and gained much info I didn’t realize. Amazing photos of Sick Stadium 👌

[@AllSportsHistory]

Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!

[@JoeyArmstrong2800]

Again, well done. I love this channel. Keep em coming.

[@AllSportsHistory]

Thanks, appreciate it!

[@marcm9999]

Say what you will about Bud Selig, but it cannot be denied that the guy loved the sport of baseball so much he ventured deep into finding Milwaukee a franchise. I grew up near Milwaukee and can tell you first hand the city was crushed by the loss of the Braves to Atlanta. Selig was a crusader at that time who never quit trying to make the city of Milwaukee whole again. Thanks Bud..

[@michaelleroy9281]

Their attendance started declining after the 1958 World Series

[@billsweda378]

The Braves ownership had their eye on Atlanta for some time. One of the things I recall was no television of road or home games. In fact, they declined to televise the final 3 games in the 56 season from St Louis where the Braves we’re playing for the NL pennant.

[@perceivedvelocity9914]

I grew up in a suburb of Seattle. The Pilots were long gone by the time I was a kid. I remember old timers talking about the Pilots and Sick's Stadium. They focused on two things. Making fun of Sick's and hating Bud Selig. Man, they hated that guy with a passion.

[@tomryan914]

'The Game That Made Milwaukee Famous'.

[@brianarbenz1329]

Great video! The 1969 expansion to 4 new cities including Seattle was the first major league expansion I had lived through. I was 11 and loved baseball and it was amazing seeing these new cities come onboard. I caught a broadcast of a Pilots game by long distance radio (I don't recall which team they were playing, but I'm sure I picked it up through their hometown's station, as I could not get West Coast AM stations.) The move to Milwaukee was unstandably a disappointment to Seattle fans, but it gave the city time to get the dome built for the Mariners. And Bud Selig immediately paid off all the Pilots' debts, getting them out of bankruptcy, which also opened the way for the Mariners. A good deal for all. One note, around 7:30 you say the Pilots' onwership "overestimated" the time it would take to expand the stadium to 30,000 seats. What you meant is they underestimated it, not realizing how long it would take. Just a constructive tip. You did a great job on this. Very thorough about a complex situation.

[@AllSportsHistory]

Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video! Yeah I guess I meant to say was that they had overestimated their own ability to put in that many seats by opening day, in the timeframe they had. Thank you for the note, I appreciate it!

[@stephaniegormley9982]

Coolest hat in MLB history. I wear mine where I live (the Detroit area) Surprising number of people recognize it.

[@Jleed989]

We lost our Detroit shortstop to the Pilots in the expansion draft. Ray Oyler

[@mikeaustin1323]

You also lost your 6th outfielder Wayne Comer who played in the 1968 World Series and batted 1.000 . He went 1 for 1 . He finished 2nd in home runs for the pilots with 15. Also Mime Marshall was ucked from the Detroit Tigers. Marshall appeared on a 1968 topps baseball card. Yet he never played for the 1968 Tigets. He played for the 1967 Tigers. However Manager Mayo Smith hated 2 pitchers. Joe Sparma and Mike Marshall were extremely educated and Mayo Smith dispised the 2 of them.

[@michaelleroy9281]

Cleveland lost Tommy Harper in the same expansion draft

[@bemore1134]

@@michaelleroy9281 And Lou Piniella. He had a cup of coffee with the Indians, Seattle plucked him in the draft, then traded him to KC, which had a much more astute front office then their expansion brethren.

[@Jleed989]

@@mikeaustin1323 thanks for that info. I’d forgotten about those others. Ray Oyler stood out bc Smith benched him in the World Series in favor of Mickey Stanley at SS. Ray wasn’t much of a hitter.

[@chrisguardiano6143]

As a historical footnote, the next pro sports team to arrive in Seattle after the Pilots left was the Sounders in the old North American Soccer League in 1974. The Sounders played in Memorial Stadium for their first two years and moved to the Kingdome (the supposed new domed stadium for the Pilots) in 1976 where they played until they folded in 1983 and the NASL folded itself after the 1984 season. However the Sounders returned in 1994 in the A League (now the USL Championship) and joined MLS (basically the successor of the old NASL) in 2009.

[@perceivedvelocity9914]

I remember them giving away a lot of free Sounders tickets when I was a kid. (Early 80's) The libraries and schools would send them home with kids. My Mom loved Basketball and Baseball. She had zero interest in Soccer/football. We never ended up using any of those free tickets.

[@archstanton4365]

Thanks for this! 👍

[@AllSportsHistory]

You’re welcome!

[@vinceniederman]

@All Sports History It’s Crazy That The Pilots Left Seattle After One Season Before The Mariners Came Along Later On BTW U Should Do Another League Video of The WFL in From 1974 to 1975 When The League Folded!

[@ticnatz]

The Pilots history has intrigued me for years. No mention of Bouton though. A bit odd....

[@itinerantpatriot1196]

My only memory of the Pilots was watching a game on TV where Joe Sparma, a pitcher for my team, the Tigers, carried a no-hitter into the 9th. Unfortunately, he allowed a hit that inning but the Tigers still won pretty handily. It's memorable because I was just a kid and had never seen a no-hitter before. Plus, Joe Sparma was an okay starting pitcher but he was known for being sort of wild. I can't recall how many batters he walked that day but I imagine it was more than a few. It's strange that I should even remember that, seeing how it was more than 50 years ago but that memory, for whatever reason, has always been with me. Oh well, it's hard not be nostalgic about baseball.

[@samuelmoulds1016]

yeah, a bumper sticker in Detroit said, "The reason Joe Sparma is so healthy is because he walks a lot".

[@itinerantpatriot1196]

@@samuelmoulds1016 That's a good one! 👍

[@michaelleroy9281]

The Seattle Mariners were always rumored about going elsewhere, 1995 against the Yankees saved baseball in Seattle they would have been gone if Safeco / T Mobile Park wasn't built

[@jacksmith5692]

Knew most of this but a nice recap.

[@lawoftheuniverse8089]

Great Video...!!!

[@AllSportsHistory]

Thank you!!

[@Shanesac]

Please history of Sacramento Kings

[@AllSportsHistory]

It’s on my to do list!

[@Shanesac]

@@AllSportsHistory yes!!!

[@stuartrubin5730]

Started out as Rochester (NY) Royals.

[@kentclark5594]

@@stuartrubin5730 Rochester/Cincinnati/Kansas City/ Sacramento. Best player Oscar Robertson.

[@williamhild1793]

Pitcher Diego Segui had the distinction of playing for both the Seattle Pilots and the Seattle Mariners.

[@michaelleroy9281]

The only one

[@robertsprouse9282]

In 1992, reliever DARREN HOLMES- then with the MILWAUKEE BREWERS organization, pitched briefly and very well with the AMERICAN ASSOCIATION'S DENVER BEARS..the very next season he was pitching for the new NL expansion club, the COLORADO ROCKIES out of..DENVER.. I looked and found that the 1961 HOUSTON BUFFS in the AAA AMERICAN ASSOC., a CHICUBS farm team had six guys playing a little to a lot with the MLB expansion 1962 HOUSTON COLT .45's.. DAVE GIUSTI, PIDGE BROWNE, JIM CAMPBELL(NOT THE SAME GUY WHO WAS THE DETROIT G.MGR), J.C. HARTMAN who was 19 in '61, 20 in '62, and later retired to become a policeman in HOUSTON. RON DAVIS-not the NY YANKS relief pitcher in the 70's and father of recent MLB'ER, IKE DAVIS- and DAVE ROBERTS-not the same guy as the future '70's ASTROS pitcher, or the future high draftpick third baseman of the PADRES-. I wonder if any PADRES in 1969 were on the '68 PHILLIES FARMTEAM IN SD IN THE PACIFIC COAST LEAGUE? And, what do you know.. STEVE ARLIN was on the '68 PCL's SD PADS and '69 MLB SD PADS. ARLIN was a grandson of HAROLD ARLIN, the very first MLB BROADCASTER, ever, working for KDKA RADIO IN PITTSBURGH in Aug. of 1921, less than a year after he was the first U.S. RADIO NEWSCASTER to read presidential election returns. What about the 1968 SEATTLE ANGELS AND '69 MARINERS? Yep, MARTY PATTIN, JIM" BULLDOG/"BALL FOUR" BOUTON, and GUS GIL..were on both. No SHORT SEASON CLASS-A NW LEAGUE 1976 SEATTLE RAINIERS on the '77 MLB MARINERS.. In 1997, the TAMPA YANKEES or ST. PETERSBURG DEVIL RAYS did not share any players with the 1998 TAMPA D-RAYS.. The 1997 PHOENIX FIREBIRDS did not have any shared players with the 1998 ARIZ. DIAMONDBACKS.. I don't count '61 MINNESOTA TWINS/'60 Minneapolis Millers or, St. PAUL Saints players. I also don't count the 1971 DALLAS-FT.WORTH SPURS and the '72 TEXAS RANGERS since like the TWINS the RANGERS were not an expansion club. I also do not count the 1965 ATLANTA CRACKERS and the '66 ATL. BRAVES. There were no minor league teams in L.A. IN '60, IN MONTREAL IN '68, NYORK CITY IN '61, KANSAS CITY IN '68, nor TORONTO in 1976..in addition although, I won't count it because the A's were not an expansion club when they moved from KC TO OAK..there was not a minor league team in OAKLAND IN 1967..

[@keithford8706]

The Padres almost were thinking of moving to Washington,D.C. at one time.

[@keithford8706]

The Padres almost were thinking of moving to Washington,D.C. at one time.

[@christopheroliver2465]

Segui was the 1977 Opening Day starter for the Mariners!

[@richardsiemion5903]

The Washington Nationals Logo at 7:10 threw me off so hard… for the second incarnation of the Washington Senators who moved to Texas.

[@Dawicker104]

I was at the first White Sox game against the Twins. They roped off the warning track to handle the demand for standing room. I was on the field. Bud Selig not only brought MLB back to Milwaukee, he was instrumental in the city building Miller Park, now American Family Field. The dome has been a huge success, as the Brewers are near the top in attendance, even though Milwaukee is the smallest TV market.

[@bemore1134]

Thanks for some info I had never heard before, regarding the newspaper pic of the woman wearing what was supposed to be the new Brewers' uni. I remembered that photo & always wondered why their uniforms never looked like that. Never had the time to produce them.....makes sense. Wonder why they didn't just introduce them in '71. Also, you mentioned the White Sox playing league games in Milwaukee in '69. It was actually 1968 AND '69. Thanks for an interesting piece.

[@BobJ1979]

Michigan Wolverine caps were the Brewers original logo!

[@Rockhound6165]

I'd like to see you do a video on the Jersey Knights of the WHA. They played only part of the 1973-74 season. They played in Cherry Hill at the Cherry Hill Arena which probably made Sick Stadium look like a palace.

[@johnharris6655]

And now we see why politicians need to stay out of business decisions. Seattle was not ready for a team but forced Politicians forced MLB to put a team there.

[@michaelleroy9281]

That's because a senator in Missouri had it out with Charlie Finley when the A's left Kansas City after 1967

[@bemore1134]

@@michaelleroy9281 Kinda proves the same point, no?

[@pls2028]

Unfortunately, it became painfully obvious - very quickly - that Seattle was not ready for Major League Baseball or the Pilots. That the stadium was woefully inept and was nowhere near being close to sufficient as the 1969 season approached is proof-positive. No water to flush toilets, no water for players to take showers, and one wonders why the city lost its team. Clearly, moving the team to Milwaukee was the right move. Fortunately, Seattle proved it was ready for the big-leagues by the time it was granted the Mariners franchise - which that ownership group got right!

[@michaelleroy9281]

The Mariners were always rumored to be moving somewhere else in the late 80s into the 90's

[@pls2028]

@@michaelleroy9281 Very happy to see that the franchise stayed and is certainly on solid ground. Great to see the Kraken being so well-received; hopefully the return of the SuperSonics isn’t too far away. Good thoughts coming Seattle’s way from their neighbours to the North!

[@charlescline8943]

It's a miracle the Pilots didn't fold

[@lawrencetaylor4101]

I used to be a stadium rat as a kid at Bear's Stadium who also played in the PCL. I saw several games as the Seattle team came through.

[@subtlebluntduality5997]

Great video. Seattle is definitely a passionate sports city but they were not ready for baseball yet with Sicks Stadium. It looked like a minor league stadium and I'm sure a lot of players from visiting teams were thinking that. While I'm usually against franchise relocation, in this case it was the right call. But they did it right this time a few years later. While I'm not a fan of Seattle teams (especially after the 2014 NFC Championship game! GRRRRR!!!), I was happy that they got a NHL franchise (Release the Kraken!) and I'm pulling for them to get a new NBA franchise. Bring back the SuperSonics!

[@michaelleroy9281]

Let's get KRAKEN

[@KTF0]

Those unis were tight.

[@PowerPackers90]

There are some people here in Wisconsin that legit thought the fail mary and the lost to the seahawks in the NFC championship game a few years later was "karma for us taking the pilots"

[@Tasby12]

Some people are idiots. Packer fans especially.

[@michaelleroy9281]

In 1975 the White Sox almost moved to Seattle and the Oakland A's could have moved to Chicago ( Where Charlie Finley called home)

[@peterjermyn5785]

Seattle just was not ready for the pilots due to stadium issues they were hastily moved in putting owners on the spot it just would have been better to wait until stadium issues were resolved

[@dwlopez57]

Anyone else find it ironic the Brewers play in Miller Park. But the owners name was Bud?

[@michaelleroy9281]

Hilarious 😀😆

[@KDMaster64]

That was a fast franchise.

[@AllSportsHistory]

Faster than a McDonalds franchise…

[@KDMaster64]

@@AllSportsHistory 😂

[@michaelleroy9281]

But they're still here, as the Milwaukee Brewers

[@KDMaster64]

@@michaelleroy9281 the time in Seattle was short lived because they’re stadiums is crumbling, disaster and end up bankrupted thanks for being nowhere near ready for the big time. Other sports franchise that last for a year was: Seattle Pilots 1969 Other Milwaukee Brewers 1901 Los Angeles Chargers 1960 AFL (Chargers return to Los Angeles in 2017) NFL Quebec Bulldogs NHL 1920. (They’re Contracted) Honorable Mentions: Dallas Texans 1960-1962 Chicago Zephyrs/Packers 1961-1963 San Diego Rockets 1967-1971 Tri-Cities Blackhawks 1949-1951 Kansas City Scouts 1974-1976 Seattle did get their team back in 1977 as they called the Seattle Mariners and the team still stand to this day.

[@michaelleroy9281]

@@KDMaster64 Cleveland Barons 1976-1978 although they were the Oakland/ California Golden Seals 1967-1976

[@DPMConnacht]

The San Diego Padres were the Cincinnati Reds Triple-A team in the 1960's (Pete Rose, Tony Perez, Tommy Helms, Lee May were at one time San Diego Padres....they and several others were the foundation of the Big Red Machine of the 1970's). The Reds ownership threatened to move the team to San Diego unless the City/County built the team a new stadium. Thus Riverfront Stadium, a duel purpose stadium, was built to house both MLB's Cincinnati Reds and the new NFL expansion team Cincinnati Bengals (with Paul Brown as part owner). When he fired as head coach of the Cleveland Browns by owner Art Modell, Paul Brown retained much of the teams equipment/helmets/jerseys/etc. which he in turn used for his start up Bengals jerseys and helmets (removing the stripes and adding the word "Bengals" in simple block script). On a separate note: Riverfront Stadium wasn't completed in time for the Cincinnati Bengals first two seasons, so the teams home field was Nippert Stadium, home of the Cincinnati Bearcats football team.

[@samuelmoulds1016]

yeah, and don't forget about a mirror league coach, coaching all that 'Big Red Machine' material in San Diego, 'Spanky' Anderson (I'd call him 'Sparky' but he believed in discipline)! I talked to him once when he was in Milwaukee as manager of the Tigers.

[@rogerkinard7446]

It was wonderful to see one of my all-time favorite LOS ANGELES DODGERS’ players in the video. A big shoutout to the great Tommy Davis !!! Let's go DODGERS 2022 !!! ⚾️⚾️⚾️ ROGER, The LOS ANGELES DODGER

[@AllSportsHistory]

I'm a huge Dodger fan myself, so hopefully we can resign Scherzer, Kershaw, Seager, and Taylor!

[@garyfaught3769]

1962 (.346)and 1963 (.326) NL batting champ with Dodgers. I think he broke his ankle in early '64 and though he played well, was never quite the same. Believe he wore #12.

[@rogerkinard7446]

@@garyfaught3769 And Tommy still holds the franchise record for R.B.I.’s in a single season: 153 in 1962. Both Sandy Koufax and he are from Brooklyn, and Tommy remains charitably active with the DODGERS in the greater Los Angeles area. ⚾️⚾️⚾️

[@garyfaught3769]

I did not realize Tommy was still living. As a lifelong Dodgers fan, '62 may have been my biggest year of heartbreak. Drysdale went 25-9 and won league's ONLY Cy Young, Wills was NL MVP and broke Ty Cobbs steals record with 104. As you mentioned Tommie drove in 153 runs to go with NL batting title. Last but certainly not least, Koufax was 14-4 in July when a hand injury basically ended his season. He fin ished 14-7 and still won NL ERA title. If he stays healthy, there would have been no playoff vs. Giants and a likely WS win vs. Yankees. It was quite a season through a 10 year olds eyes! Gkad to hear the update on Tommie.

[@smokey1255]

I'm also an old Dodger fan. I rooted for the Brooklyn Dodgers, mostly because they were always the underdogs and because Jackie Robinson was with the Dodgers. Dad grew up in South Pasadena and went to Pasadena Junior College and ran track against Jackie's brother Mack. Through him, Dad got to know Jackie. When the Dodgers moved to L.A. I caught most of their gams on a transistor radio with an ear plug buried deep in my pillow. I especially remember the 1959 World Series. I was statistician for the Arcadia High School baseball team which won the CIF Championship in 1965. As a reward, the team was invited to watch a game from the Dodger dugout. What a treat that was. It was great meeting all of the Dodgers. Unfortunately, I went to college in Flagstaff in 1968 and my folks moved to Portland in 1969. I've lived in the Pacific NW since then and have a Mariners and Dodgers fan.

[@erikriggs4954]

Here's a few good suggestions: What happened to the Original Winnipeg Jets? How did the Tampa Bay Buccaneers win the 1995 NFL draft? What happened with the Arena Football League? What happened with the Alliance of American Football? What happened to the St. Louis Rams? What happened to the Minnesota North Stars?

[@AllSportsHistory]

Yeah some of those are all ready on my to do list, but those are some great topics to add to it!

[@bigjohn08865]

The AAF ran out of money after only 8 weeks. Crazy.

[@michaelleroy9281]

I'd like to see more about the North Stars moving Dallas then we already know, there has to be

[@wilderac2250]

Can you do a video on the Braves moving into Milwaukee. Winning a World Series and then moving to Atlanta a few years later.

[@AllSportsHistory]

Yeah its on my future to do list!

[@vinceniederman]

@@AllSportsHistory U Should Do More Baseball Videos From Time to Time Especially That Idea Which I Like!

[@erickthefantabulous1]

I'm wondering how much is a Seattle pilot's home /road uniform mint condition worth & memorabilia From that 1 season in Seattle ? As a history buff & all Wisconsin sports fan this was a good listen

[@monabiehl6213]

I was looking at the sports page of the Anchorage Times. There was a picture of a sexy young woman with a big smile squatting over a pristine trash can and dumping her Seattle Pilots pennant. I wondered why she wasn't keeping it.

[@murph165]

Interesting video. Seems very odd to me that Seattle was granted an expansion franchise without a better plan in place to sustain long-term functionality. The city and owners clearly were not ready for such an undertaking.

[@dwlopez57]

True. The Sorianos soon ran out of money and couldnt find anyone to bail them out. Sicks Stadium was only supposed to serve as the home for a couple or three years until the new doomed stadium opened. But there was so much legal wrangling about the dome it was delayed several years. One irony is that in its day Sicks was regarded as the finest minor league park in the nation.

[@shackdaddy7106]

If you want to know more about the Seattle Pilots, just read the first tell all sports book of all time. Ball Four by Jim Bouton.

[@chrisphillips348]

No mention of book “Ball Four”?? Surprising. A Home Depot stands at stadium old site with Home Plate right outside the Enter door

[@shaneberry]

I've been there, I think it's a Lowe's now....but home plate is still there...although I think the 'player' is facing the wrong way...

[@renstimpy2659]

I didnt know Jimbo Fisher played for the White Sox @ 10:06.

[@mmaranta785]

I remember Tommy Harper

[@petezereeeah]

My Mother was from Brooklyn. She never accepted the Los Angeles Dodgers. To her they were "Dem Bums" from Brooklyn. The Giants left NY for San Francisco, but the were replaced with the Mets. Brooklyn didn't get another team, and never will.

[@keithford8706]

It was said. Sick Team. Sicker Stadium.

[@billtipper5858]

Go Go you Pilots go out and build a dream!

[@PierreGHedgehog]

its crazy how seilg went from a car salesman who bought the brewers to major league baseball commissioner

[@samuelmoulds1016]

yeah, Selig (not my bud) should never have been in the Hall of Fame! musta been voted in by the owners)

[@ralphgarcia913]

Ken Griffey Jr., Alex Rodriguez, Randy Johnson Gaylord Perry, Edgar Martinez, Ichiro Suzuki but zero championships. Also the NFL Seattle Seahawks were not the first Seahawks in the NFL. The Miami Seahawks played in the NFL in the 1946 and 1947 season. They played at Burdines Stadium which would become the Orange bowl. Today the site is Marlins Park. The Seahawks moved to Baltimore and became the Colts. Today they're the Cleveland Browns. I myself was born and raised in NYC but now live in Miami, Florida and am still a lifelong Yankee fan.

[@freeparking301]

9:03…$350?! For a ticket to a random Pilots game in 1969?! I’m assuming since it says row 1 and it’s a field box it’s probably behind home plate but that’s what it costs today for some teams.

[@david_pitt43]

Are you gonna do the New Jersey Nets?

[@AllSportsHistory]

Eventually yeah, I’m gonna do the original Charlotte hornets first. But the Nets are on my list!

[@christopheroliver9854]

6:53 "Hovley, get a haircut!"

[@mikevanriel7573]

If not for Bud Selig, Milwaukee would never get another baseball team after the Braves moved to Atlanta.

[@vinceniederman]

Agreed 100%!

[@jerseyforhawks]

Not a mention of Jim Bouton and his groundbreaking book 'Ball Four'.

[@larryhatcher8927]

I always thought the Grunge would be a great name for a team in Seattle

[@brainscott8198]

That first stadium was literally...Sick.

[@_________gdd]

Atlanta flames vid would be good

[@AllSportsHistory]

Yeah it’s on my to do list!

[@vinceniederman]

@@AllSportsHistory Hope U Can Do That One For The Flames Before Moving To Calgary Since U Already Did The Thrashers!

[@Stacie45]

I am pretty sure the name Pilots had more to do with Dewey Soriano and maybe other founding members' connection to the harbor pilots than any direct connection to aviation.

[@drbonesshow1]

Mr. Sick got sick and then died. It was downhill after that.

[@yaddayadda551]

Little known fact. The Pilots name may have come from a farm team that was assigned to them. A class A team in Clinton, Iowa already had the name Pilots. I grew up in that town which was right on the Mississippi river. Through a contest the name Pilots was born. Seattle always said they didn't steal it but that was too much of a coincidence to everyone in Clinton.

[@dwlopez57]

Pilots was a reference to airplane pilots and ship pilots which this video mentions Dewey Soriano was.

[@riffmaster56]

Here in Tidewater (Hampton) Virginia we had the Peninsula Pilots in the 70s. They were the Philadelphia Phillies 1-A minor league team.