Portable Power Station Review the EcoFlow River 2

[@iamReags]

Finally a review in metric units!

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

ha

[@rjbfreelander2]

I have two of these units. Had one running a fan on low (28-30w) for a family member, the River 2 was not at 100% and estimated 6 hours. As we set fan going before they turned in for the night I added an Anker 40k power bank - USBA out to the C input on the River 2. Extended in to the 10 hour range and got them through the night. It is also nice easy to move around for them.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Good to hear it is working. I like the portability of this unit as well.

[@scottlatham9437]

The 600W is a mode you can turn on called x-boost using the app. It reduces voltage to increase wattage, so it’s a bit of a cheat. But works in a pinch, handy for hair dryers. It’s more useful in the larger products they sell.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Mm yeah, stays at 300 watts.

[@andredeketeleastutecomplex]

​​@@AllThingsOnePlaceYou can change it in the app. If not your station might have a faulty component. Although I don't recommend. I never use it in Xboost.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

@@andredeketeleastutecomplex I did a short on the App and yeah, it dumps the voltage so it never gets to 600 watts. It's just pure BS. It is a constant 300 watts, in Xboost mode.

[@Luke-qs2cg]

It's 300w. Lowers voltage and raises current to give resistive loads like heaters and hairdryers the ability to run even though they shouldn't. Don't exceed 600w rated on the thing your running. If you have a 600w microwave and want to run it 15-30 secs at a time, this is doable.

[@LamoidZombieDog]

X-Boost is useless

[@_jerieljan]

This is very impressive. I've always been interested at these power stations but never really took them seriously before but seeing these results makes me want to actually consider one. This one in particular looks promising with those fast charging speeds. Kinda strange that they skipped on 100W USB-C but I can see they have other products that do have it, so maybe they just decided to skip it for this model.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, I think it’s mostly model differentiation.

[@RapManCZ]

thank you for your detailed reviews focused on efficiency. Not like the others - look, it charges my phone, and look again, it charges my laptop too!

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

haha, yeah, just plugging it in and saying it works and it's great doesn't tell you much.

[@FrenchCheeto016]

I keep my CPAP plugged into it to use as a ups. I can sleep through a storm and power flickers with no problem.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah. I saw that as an application but then also saw it says don’t use for medical devices. I’ve seen some cpaps that have built in batteries too.

[@FrenchCheeto016]

@@AllThingsOnePlace ya, I think legally they have to now. A lot of them used to advertise how long it could power a cpap. I used to use a jackery and it worked well to.

[@joelnrs]

The change of pace from typical power adapters is great. I have some suggestions or ideas for videos. 1. Like you suggested testing UPS. 2. USBC cable series 3. USBC adapter series (90 degree, vertical, etc.) 4. USB testers 5.Magnetic portable battery packs. I think videos and channels like yours help by educating consumers on how the product actually performs vs just reading the marketing information on the website/package. This will hopefully lead to manufacturers producing better quality products to stay competitive in the marketplace. Thanks for all you do!

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Thanks, yeah, I have much more on the topic list but it's usually the time to make the video that becomes the limiting factor. Part time so it's easy to fall into making the same video over and over mostly for time constraints.

[@egonpax]

Excellent review for a new type of product on your channel. Might have to pick one up in the future

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Thanks for watching! Yeah, have to try some new things once in a while.

[@eugene4350]

That's a lot of channel growth lately! Congratulations. These power stations are always interesting but I never fall into the niche that requires *that much* power from one device in one location at a time. Good to know they're actually relatively impressive. I've seen EcoFlow lately offering review units for free. Was this unit obtained on your dime or was it sent over by EcoFlow? Regards,

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

I purchased it on a half off deal. I still need to figure out the freebie thing.

[@eugene4350]

@@AllThingsOnePlacefreebies are always good. Try reaching out? Oftentimes brands will send you a unit if you reach out to their media/pr team

[@ecovoycanada]

I’ve watched a few reviews on this device as I’m planning on ordering one to use as a UPS for my router and modem to keep Internet on during outages. Yours was by far the best and most instructive, thank you for that. Wondering though if using this as a UPS will end up making the battery age faster as it would be left plugged in at all times or if the battery is altogether bypassed when power from the utility company is on. In other words, will using this as UPS negatively impact battery life? Thanks for your insight on this if you know!

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

This unit functions as an offline UPS, so the battery is charged but not supplying any power. When the mains drop out, it will switch over to the battery. Like most consumer UPS's. This is probably the one place where the app might be useful, you can limit the charge percentage to say 80% to help keep the battery in better condition versus holding it at 100% all the time. It isn't being cycled much so the battery should still last a pretty long time, better than my lead acid UPS's, 3 years on the dot and the batteries are always toast.

[@makapaka7159]

Very interesting! LiFePO4 is must have in bigger (pricier) stations/powerbanks/solar systems. It's rumored to be safer than normal Li-Ion too, so no-brainer for me.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, I hope to get many years out of this power station.

[@lurchbt]

Bought the efr 600 today for €249 in Ireland. Will be mainly used to charge my mavic 3 batteries when outdoors. Should charge 2 to 3 batteries via the usb-c instead of the AC which draws more power. .Excellent review

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Thanks for watching and sharing your use case!

[@gwashburn39]

FYI, My EcoFlow River 2 is completely dead now. won't charge or turn on. IMO the Bluetti EB3a is a winner in this size range for power stations.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

No warrantee support? I'm sure the service department is like a maze if you can get any help at all but they should replace it if it just up and failed like that. But yeah, I want to look at more of these power stations in time. Bluetti is high up the list.

[@Raven3one]

How long have you had it for?

[@How_To_Drive_a_TARDIS]

Was there any period of time that it worked? Did you happen to leave it dead for a while? or have it dead multiple times? Have you tried disassembling it? Have you tried charging with the USB c port, solar or ac input

[@AlexKiritz]

I've wanted a Delta Pro for a while mostly just because I could recharge it for free at EV charging stations.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Oh, yeah, free charging is a nice benefit.

[@mrgringo7289]

Maybe you can get bluetti to sponsor you, they send lots of youtubers ( also low subs) free powerstations to (i think) fairly review them, and they usually come out on top against the competitors so theres no shady marketing going on (i think.)

[@Whitepinoy]

ecoflow has a better customer service

[@mrgringo7289]

@@Whitepinoy yeas thats probably still true but they have been improving a lot I heard

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Both important points, and yeah, eventually I have to figure out the free thing. As it is now, I usually get requests sent in and they contain requirements of what I am allowed to say in exchange for a free unit. I should setup a mailbag type of thing or something.

[@tyngjim]

Thank you! More power stations, please! :)

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, I will get into more of these. As the channel grows I tend to invest more back in. Time is always the limiting factor though.

[@blackvert18]

Could you please review the: PECRON E600LFP Portable Power Station 1200W 614Wh LiFePo4. It seems to be the best bang for the buck out there. 1200W capable for $300

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Thanks for the suggestion, yeah that's really inexpensive for that much capacity and power ability.

[@meme5887]

Baseus has a 420w power station. Looks really nice. $182 during prime day!

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

mm yeah, I think I missed that one.

[@MrVladChannel2002]

One feature i can't seem to find anywhere, maybe i missed it in your video, sorry if i did. Can it charge and discharge at the same time?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yes, it can. Just verified the other ports also stay active while charging. I only show the AC staying on during the video.

[@CherokezPittman]

That Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series seems like a fantastic investment for outdoor enthusiasts and RV lovers! With its massive capacity, fast recharging, and durable construction, it's perfect for powering devices and appliances during extended periods. Plus, the waterproof technology and uninterrupted power supply feature make it reliable for any adventure. Definitely worth considering for your outdoor gear or home backup power needs!

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Thanks for the suggestion!

[@bobbymiller518]

Can I just a 200 watt solar panel and it will restrict charing to 100 watts or must I use a 100 watt or less solar panel to charge this?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

The power station will regulate the input, you do have to make sure the voltage of the solar panel is within the range of the input on the power station. If the voltage is within the range, then yes, you can connect it and it will pull as much as it can from the solar panel. If it is over wattage it just won't use as much current and therefore won't use all the watts the panel has to offer. If you over volt though it won't work and may cause damage. The open circuit voltage will be written on the solar panel somewhere.

[@Nikitafrom233]

very detailed, thanks for the hard work)

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Thanks for watching!

[@petecoventry6858]

Just Lithium iron Phosphate will do - and Ev's use Semi State Phosphate

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

The last three or four years has been crazy with battery packaging and availability. I hope to see some improvements in efficiency but I'm no battery expert so no idea if it's even physically possible.

[@CitizenOfBabylon]

The 600 watts is on AC, not combined with DC. You enable it in the app.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

It's also not 600 watts. It's 300 watts, it switches to a constant current at 300W and lets the voltage drop out.

[@Yigitcanakkas]

You said it has to be ground shipped if necessary which is not quite true, you can still airship it via air cargo company (or an airline which as dgr certification) as a DGR item, but it will cost much more than the item itself, thats how these items are mass shipped around the world via airplane :)

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, there's always a special case. I try to not declare yes or no, should instead of shall since if you look into anything the answer is always maybe.

[@Yigitcanakkas]

@@AllThingsOnePlace Thank you for all these nice, detailed, technical reviews, you earned a subscriber :)

[@Lp-ze1tg]

The only concern I have with these type of devices are the plastic casing. You can use the unit for 10 years but will the rest of the components withstand the time and the casing.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

I mean, as long as you don't throw it around, the plastic will far outlast the electronics. The electronics are very complicated in devices like this so I think the failure rate on these is a lot higher than people expect.

[@b0bsaget007]

Oh nice, a mini PC video coming soon. I have pretty much that exact same Beelink one with the Ryzen 5 5560U, and for the money, it's an excellent little PC. I use it as an HTPC for our 4K TV simply because a computer is far more useful than any smart TV OS.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, I got it to replace a much more power hungry and larger older desktop computer. Sipping watts and it is faster while doing so.

[@user-hh6ex9md4w]

Comment: Wow, this Power Station from Segway sounds amazing! The capacity and fast recharging time are definitely impressive. Plus, the waterproof technology is perfect for outdoor adventures. I can see this being a great addition to my camping gear. Thanks for sharing this recommendation!

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

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[@user-hh6ex9md4w]

Reply: "I couldn't agree more with your comment! The Segway Cube Series Power Station is truly impressive with its massive capacity, fast recharging time, and waterproof technology. It's perfect for outdoor adventures and a great addition to any camping gear. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!"

[@jacquelinejohnson7541]

Hi I've just bought one how do I know when it's fully charged on AC plug I'm a bit Dyslexia so hard for me to understand thank you

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

The display will show 100% when it is fully charged.

[@blueee100]

Does this operate at 60Hz as default out of the box? I want to buy but do not want to have to have a smartphone for functions so need to know if A/C operation is 60Hz default as is the power grid in North America. Also does it shut down if power consumption is less than 10 watts. Not good if an led light using only 7 watts and you want it to stay on.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Mine did operate at 60 Hz out of the box. The AC side stayed on until the battery was flat as long as something is plugged in, I used an LED light bulb. I can't remember if I changed a setting from factory though since I did eventually mess with the app.

[@stellarproductions8888]

Looks like a very nice unit. Seems to be well made, and gets high marks in efficiency. Having said that however, considering the cost of this power station, and having no integration with a phone APP for monitoring remotely, is a deal breaker. Also, no 100-watt output for USB-C charging is also a strange decision. This one just won't get my mark of approval. Next! 😂

[@Whitepinoy]

it does have a phone app and very nice one at that.

[@stellarproductions8888]

@@Whitepinoy Oh ok, I must have missed that from the video. Usually I pay better attention. Thanks for the correction.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, it has it, I mention it but I didn't show it, my basic conclusion was this has everything you need on the display. I might do a short app video later on.

[@scottlatham9437]

For the most part, the app lets you configure it. Set min and max charge to increase battery life, turn on x-boost and monitoring.

[@mellie1022]

Just picked mine up from Home Depot. I know nothing. Here to learn

[@callmepsy2077]

If you can review the Yoobao EN300WLPD power station I would really appreciate it.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Thanks for the suggestion, I added it to the list.

[@callmepsy2077]

@@AllThingsOnePlace Thank you!

[@Matt-es1wn]

very insightful, thankyou. especially your reminder on its bulkiness and no-airplane travel specs. Might cancel my order. I'm looking everywhere for one with hight watts output 500W +, around 100-120 wh, that can be carried in a backpack, or on a plane, 1-2 kg; like this ecoflow river 2 but more adaptable long term, with lipho 4, and with the ports of a ugreen nexode 300w embedded in the device aswell as an ac port - would be am amazing device. Do you know if such a power bank/station already exists?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Thanks. Yeah, I try to cover a lot. These power stations do a lot so it's not really feasible to do a comprehensive workup on such a complicated product in a few minutes of YT screen time. Anyway, the requirements you seek may be a bit beyond physical limitations. Asking for 500 watts out of a 100 watt hour class battery is going to be extremely demanding, like damaging to the battery demanding. So, the batteries tend to get larger for this power class. Is it possible to demand that much power, yes, but with series resistance losses, the current demand is going to be very high. Probably 35 amps for a 6 cell in series pack, this means everything else has to get heavier, you'd lose half the energy to the cells heating themselves, also 500 watts from 100 wh means at best it runs 10 minutes. So, I think your ask is not possible with our current physics in a product that would be sellable. Could you make a unicorn device with no cost constraints, yeah, it still wouldn't hit the target weight and would be far from safe.

[@richarde1355]

Thanks! Is this rechargeable with a solar panel?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yes, they include instructions in the user manual for how to do this. I didn't cover it because it is clear in the user manual.

[@manhuawang11]

Would be interested in your take on river 2 max (or other power station in the 500wh range).

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, I need to get into more of these, it's all time.

[@steven-un4iw]

Well done

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Thanks!

[@moseskioko1299]

You videos are awesome and amazing ,,❤

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Thank you!

[@qwe304]

It's useful, and quite cheap, with great output, but I feel the capacity and standby drain are unimpressive.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

There's a lot going on in these things. In this case the battery technology is not as dense as typical power bank or a phone battery but should last longer (in terms of charge cycles). The electronics will likely fail before the battery.

[@5abivt]

I have a gaming laptop that I really just need 25-30 mins of extra power from (when on battery which uses much less wattage) It has a 300w adapter when plugged in and runs full power (when tested draws about 210-220w under load). I’m wondering if this bank will actually power it at full power for about an hour ? When plugged in there is an option to run it in balanced mode (the mode it defaults to when running on battery) I think this bank will help it run for a reasonable time ? 🤔

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, it'll probably run for about 45 minutes with all the power supply losses and all if the load is consistent around 210 - 220 watts.

[@ItsAaronRose]

What wattage would it draw from a car for charging while idling? Would I be able to power two 100w lights indefinetly while plugged into my car? Or would the output exceed the input?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

hmm, I'm not sure. It wouldn't be the right size to power 200 watts of lights. This would struggle to keep up with that kind of load all the time. The car battery would also be on the small side for that kind of load.

[@ItsAaronRose]

@@AllThingsOnePlace appreciate the response!

[@mrgringo7289]

Bluetti eb3a or ac180 is the best of the powerstation for the budget I think right now.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, I actually got this one on a half price sale which is why I decided to make the video first but yeah Bluetti should get a go too.

[@bobbymiller518]

Thanks I appreciate it so much!

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Thanks for watching!

[@KaneyS-STV]

0:35 What is transparent white slim powerbank? thanks.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

That’s one of the single 18650 cell power banks you usually get as a freebie at trade shows and things (exactly what that one is).

[@stephenpowstinger733]

Having trouble connect Bluetooth- as usual. Why does it need Bluetooth and WiFi anyway? …First time I tried it didn’t work. I read up on it and found the unit was dead.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, I did a short connecting the bluetooth and it worked, it allows you to limit the charge percentage and turn on the fake over watt charging mode but yeah that doesn't help if it doesn't work.

[@butthead11555]

Bluetti EB3A next?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Maybe. It looks like this isn’t a popular video so far.

[@killeme]

@@AllThingsOnePlace I love this! I'm not in the market for a bigger power station like this yet, but being able to have videos like this for research is a big help. Thanks!

[@WTCHME]

@@AllThingsOnePlace Don't worry, I'm sure if you review a bigger one and put a horrible title like "Is this the ultimate grid power solution !?" the views will come rolling in.

[@fossilimprint2954]

Thank you for this video.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

You're welcome!

[@janbryant3773]

Can this power a refrigerator or a freezer for 1 day?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

No. It’s too small.

[@Mr-Nassor]

Hi I need help I bought the beilkn 108w and form one week use I charge my iPad or phone then it drains in a weird speed I don’t think it’s normal can someone help

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

That sounds unusual. I’m not sure how or why a charger would cause that unless the device doesn’t actually charge which should be indicated on screen of the device.

[@SteveBennet500]

If the river 2 is fully discharged and you start charging it, does it turn on automatically or do you need to press the power button?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

I fully discharged it a few times and I don't remember how it behaves in that situation.

[@hkepanijr]

Great video thank you😎

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Thanks for watching!

[@justinellington2000]

Are the USB-A ports capable of fast charging smartphones at only 12W?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

I only found the 12W mode.

[@otwieraczoczuw]

Would like to have mine plugged all the time as a power backup during blackouts, but the vent is turning on and it’s really annoying. Any advice? Is there a way to stop the station constantly charging itself while plugged in?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

There is an app that offers more control over the power station. Also, it holds it's charge pretty well. Unless you are using it as a UPS, I'd only charge it up once every two months or so.

[@otwieraczoczuw]

@@AllThingsOnePlacewhat’s the app called?

[@fabsenbmx]

Idle power comsumption of 2W... Does that mean its empty after 100hrs of doing nothing?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

That's idle from the wall, once charging is finished. What you are talking about is standby power, that is much lower, I actually don't measure that.

[@gwynned7235]

Why shouldn't I get one of these instead of a UPS for my PC?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

No reason really. It isn’t instantaneous for switching so some devices may not stay powered.

[@emmanuelchiderah8511]

Can it power a 60w soldering iron efficiently and for how long

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

There's a lot of variable there, like how much is the iron being used. Can it do it, absolutely. The idle power, power to maintain temperature, temperature setting, and amount of actual soldering being done will determine run time. The usable energy is provided so some basic math once you know the average power used from the device.

[@Whitepinoy]

Good for WiFi and charging phones and laptops during a blackout

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, it should get you a pretty good number of hours powering a few devices like that.

[@Imjustsaying1966]

Big for stack-ability?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

I'd put it as low in that category. I don't think it's really made for that.

[@alx9r]

I’m puzzled by this product and others like it. In what scenario is this the right choice instead of a collection of the more versatile, modular, performant, and cost-effective USB PD options? The AC can’t power much aside from power supplies that just produce DC anyway. It seems like this is just an awkwardly consolidated collection of mediocre battery and power supply components. I must be missing something here…

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

I think having a good charger for a battery pack and a decent inverter combined into one box is convenient. Some of the other features are gimmicks for sure. I’d like to see a little better overall performance.

[@nalindisanayaka6220]

Can I know where I can buy USB isolater ( 5v, 9v , 12v switcher ) ? Thanks

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

I’m not quite sure what you mean. There are lots of isolated dc to dc converter options as well as ones that pass usb data.

[@nalindisanayaka6220]

​@@AllThingsOnePlace I want buy usb to usb voltage regulate device for shift voltage (5v , 9v , 12v ) manually .

[@tnargdonald]

I use a chineasium jump starter that’s supposed to be 300wh as a large power bank when camping for a few days. It would be interesting to see your opinion. It’s called a Yesper Armor 2 300wh version

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah that’s a big battery. Would be interesting to check that out.

[@tnargdonald]

Im loving your insight to all of this its a good watch. i have been binging and realizing I have bought quiet a bit of junk!@@AllThingsOnePlace

[@panz3r696]

eco river 2 Vs vtoman 600x ?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

I'm not sure. I need to look at a whole lot more of these power stations to get an idea of what's good and bad.

[@MNGermann]

LFP battery

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, it's big and heavy, but should be a longer lasting battery.

[@MNGermann]

@@AllThingsOnePlace that's what she said ™ :P

[@gregandark8571]

iQOO 200W GaN Charger is coming soon? Thanks.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Not sure when but it is on the list of chargers.

[@gregandark8571]

@@AllThingsOnePlace Thanks you very much!!! Your videos are precious for info you give us :D so thank you infinitely.

[@gregandark8571]

@@AllThingsOnePlace

[@ashleykbarks]

9:33 I don't know why they bother with a blender comparison 😂😂😂

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, I guess it can blend?

[@Theanomgroup]

can i recharge it with the sun?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

With a solar panel, yes. That's covered.

[@Imjustsaying1966]

170$ on Amazon as of 6/23

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, reasonable. I picked it up for real cheap as well.

[@angelsvelvetweb]

Would you recommend this for camping?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Car camping sure. It all depends on how much energy you need.

[@angelsvelvetweb]

@@AllThingsOnePlace okay thank you. I'm considering buying one tomorrow

[@Tripskull]

I like bluetti

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, I need to check some of those out.

[@AmazingMania]

How long can it support a 60watts laptop?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

200 Wh / 60 watts = 3 1/3 hours at 60 watts. If the laptop only uses 10 watts, then multiply that time by 6. Approximately.

[@adamburns2452]

cant even run a small heater

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

True.

[@fanech14]

Bad product,DC charging on mine stop working in a month of purpose.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Thanks for sharing. Yeah, it's the main concern I have on these power stations. So many features, how long are they really going to last.

[@greatcesarsghost]

Do more research you have real lack of knowledge about the features of the unit . Poorly informed presentation LIKE YOURS give units a bad name because of your lack of knowledge ..do research before you give your two cents ...

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Thanks for sharing. I don't agree.

[@greatcesarsghost]

@@AllThingsOnePlace You don’t even know why the model is a EFR 600 … this unit can handle a max wattage of 600 . With the ecoflow boost . With out the boost it’s 256 watts . You skip through important things … and u DON’T agree . It was a badly done presentation that was POORLY RESEARCHED

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

@@greatcesarsghost Go get it done then, make the video better.

[@nicolaiecristea486]

Rubish!

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

They're all built down to a price.

[@Santosv708]

How long does it take to charge it plug to car ?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

It should take about 2 1/2 hours assuming a 10 amp 12v socket is available.