ALP 1,000-Watt 100% Propane-Powered, 60-hours long-lasting run time on a 20-lb tank Generator Review

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@advancedxdirective
@advancedxdirective 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your video; here are some more items for consideration -Propane has a much longer shelf life than unleaded -Propane burns a lot cleaner so the life expectancy of the engine should be much longer than unleaded (w/ proper maintenance) - I have spoken to the company and they are developing a bigger generator and working on a version with an electric start (don't have an ETA) - For California, there is an incoming gas/diesel lawn equipment/generator new sale ban; I have contacted the company and they have a letter of approval from CARB that their unit will NOT be affected.
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nathan!! Great stuff I appreciate that 👍🏾 definitely will input that in the update load test video
@scottanthony1701
@scottanthony1701 2 жыл бұрын
Finally, someone does a full frig test. Thanks and nicely done.
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching please subscribe 👍🏾
@juanaguilera4947
@juanaguilera4947 6 ай бұрын
Just got mine. Initial break in used one lb per hour running at 650 watts. Hoping that will improve over time.
@chrisanderson8553
@chrisanderson8553 3 жыл бұрын
Love my ALP. helps greatly increase the run time of my solar generators by helping top them off if I dont have great solar
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree!
@rjakiel73
@rjakiel73 2 жыл бұрын
That's the exact thing I use my Duromax 2400 for. Propane only to top of my EcoFlows. Needed a bit more wattage than the Alp though because the Ecoflow units on fast charge suck down a ton of power.
@chrisanderson8553
@chrisanderson8553 2 жыл бұрын
@@rjakiel73 I dont like charging them at full power. I Charge my river Pro at 450, and my Bluetti charges at 350. So combined the 800w, to top them both off. When its not topping them off, it charges my ego batteries to use in my nexus power station. I can see why with ecoflows rapid charge, you would want the 2400w of the duromax!
@dustyroads834
@dustyroads834 Жыл бұрын
I’ve always stayed away from propane. First is availability. Its always an “event” trying to get a cylinder filled anywhere and if you do the tank exchange you way over pay for a half filled tank. Also cold weather dependability of propane flow. I will say though this little generator has me enticed to try it. Great video. Thanks.
@jasonfrodoman1316
@jasonfrodoman1316 3 жыл бұрын
You did a really great job making this video. This generator make a lot of sense if you don't need a whole lot of power to run AC unit on RV. Looks good.
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jason
@jasonfrodoman1316
@jasonfrodoman1316 3 жыл бұрын
@@GeneratorReviews Hey Gavin. I put close to 3000 hours on my Predator 3500 running AC on RV here in Vegas area. I'm usually off grid and full time. Predators still runs. But problems like stater f a il. Ignition module fail. Cheap fixes, but still add up for high hour generator fix. So in your opinion, what is the best unit in the 3000-4000 watt range where a guy can run 1 AC unit on RV ? I never thought about propane fuel before, but it seems to make a lot of sense if you are running for hours on end, right ? Your recommendations appreciated Sir. Thank you.
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonfrodoman1316 Hey Jason Since you are running off grid power most of the time and you probably have propane onboard your RV, you should definitely consider a dual fuel generator so you can connect it to the propane tank. One with a three year warranty would cover any mishaps or problems in that time. I would look at 4500w - 5500w, I don’t know your price budget but they’re not much more than the 3500.
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 3 жыл бұрын
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@shaunhall960
@shaunhall960 2 жыл бұрын
As a nomad this generator is amazing.
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed 👍🏾
@M9A1MAN
@M9A1MAN 11 ай бұрын
I have this generator. Great generator, however keep in mind those runs times are based on HALF load.
@davidnicholas7624
@davidnicholas7624 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a very helpful and informative video. Knowing I could run my refrigerator in an emergency has sold me on this efficient little unit.
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@wadebrewer7212
@wadebrewer7212 3 жыл бұрын
It has me thinking about getting the tri fuel valve thing for mine. Propane keeps a long time over needing to stabilize gasoline and deal with that mess.
@kenmatthews6476
@kenmatthews6476 3 жыл бұрын
Seems cool but i don’t like the hose and propane bottle hanging off the side. They should incorporate the 1lb bottle a little better so it feels like one unit. As always, excellent presentation.
@david_sdiego
@david_sdiego 2 жыл бұрын
The Baja 900 (aka Ryobi) did exactly that. Unfortunately, not all propane bottles have precisely the exact same threading and it was possible to strip out the threads rendering the whole thing useless. For this reason, I left the short hose attached full time to avoid problems.
@garden-queen2393
@garden-queen2393 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Good job 👍.
@david_sdiego
@david_sdiego 2 жыл бұрын
Solar and batteries will always be a secondary source. This makes the perfect primary.
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely if more people think of it that way, we would be so much better off but everybody tries to be one and not the other.
@af1023
@af1023 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, thank you for reviewing the product
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@danieltimisan6820
@danieltimisan6820 2 жыл бұрын
I had this unit , unfortunately I had to send it back , mine was shutting down at 900w. I bought it to charge my camper batteries , and it could not do the job with a 40A 12V charger. But I loved the generator, great product, very uniques class, little on the loud side. To get 500W out of it was pretty loud
@Grevlain
@Grevlain Жыл бұрын
It says 850W Rated (continuous) and 1000W max. Just an FYI. Plus - elevation reduces max output. I dont know what elevation you are at.
@socratesvela8285
@socratesvela8285 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Very nice looking unit. I bet the same people that already have a 300 W solar generator, already have a 2300 W inverter, also will have one of these. I wonder how most are using this little guy. Probably just to power a projector, a fan , and a sound bar. Or Maybe just to charge electronic devices. I also heard from aI power to never run in eco mode if the load exceeds more than 50% of running watt rating. Also in parallel, the master unit should never be in eco mode, but the slave can be put on eco. Have you heard anything like this?
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I have heard that and in the case of a 1K Gen I would definitely agree👍🏾 Thanks for watching
@thomasmiller2089
@thomasmiller2089 3 жыл бұрын
I had never heard that about parallel and eco mode. Thanks!
@chrisanderson8553
@chrisanderson8553 3 жыл бұрын
It automnatically turns off eco mode when the load goes over 500w.
@Olivieryoming
@Olivieryoming 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your time, and energy, it was helpful.
@Brian.B-
@Brian.B- 3 жыл бұрын
That looks like a nice little generator. Thank you for this video. BTW I love your back yard!
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙏🏾
@grumpyoldphart7325
@grumpyoldphart7325 3 жыл бұрын
Just ordered one. Hope it works as advertised.
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Grumpy Oldphart Thanks for watching!! it’s awesome you’ll like 👍🏾
@socratesvela8285
@socratesvela8285 3 жыл бұрын
Can you put links on the equipment you use. I'm looking for a decibel meter. Which one are you using. I also like the volt and amp meter.
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Ok I will update it and add the links
@props-model-shop
@props-model-shop 3 жыл бұрын
Super quite and the price is pretty good
@roberto.peterson9917
@roberto.peterson9917 3 жыл бұрын
Belive this would an outstanding unit only if integrated with solar charging option so that solar be primary and automatically switch to propane at night or when weather to cloudy for solar to keep up As it is camping or rving you always have propane available
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Yep that’s a really good idea almost like a hybrid system 👍🏾
@muxxor9492
@muxxor9492 3 жыл бұрын
Wish they would make more portable generators that will run on natural gas without conversion kits. Many people have natural gas at home.
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 3 жыл бұрын
YES!!! I agree that would be so much better with natural gas
@UPdan
@UPdan Жыл бұрын
Also the Honda 1000 but propane. Sold !!! My freezer in 110v. 3.5 cubic feet.
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews Жыл бұрын
Yessir this is.👍🏾
@james10739
@james10739 3 жыл бұрын
I mean it's cool but there has been the Baja that is basically the same thing for a while and it goes on sale on the home Depots site for like $200-$230 if I recall correctly
@chrisanderson8553
@chrisanderson8553 3 жыл бұрын
baja is only 700w running.
@james10739
@james10739 3 жыл бұрын
Ok I mean I don't think that would make much of a difference in most situations but my point is he was acting like this is a brand new concept to market
@james10739
@james10739 3 жыл бұрын
I guess I was thinking of another video but still
@chrisanderson8553
@chrisanderson8553 3 жыл бұрын
@@james10739 Alp 22% more power. Eco mode. 2 plugs. USB plugs. DC out. Choke. Upgraded pull mechanism. Light. Starts easier. All around the ALP is a much better gen.
@james10739
@james10739 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisanderson8553 it's also like 75% more money so what you want to do
@joalyincontroly4379
@joalyincontroly4379 2 жыл бұрын
HELPFUL REVIEW, THANKS👍🏻
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍🏾
@thomasmiller2089
@thomasmiller2089 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another awesome video! Wonder how many times that LP hose accidentally gets thrown away?
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Great point Thomas I couldn’t find it either I bet that happens
@teddbare2000
@teddbare2000 3 жыл бұрын
Question: Why is there a standard gasoline carb complete with float bowl on a 100% propane genset?? I'll bet if you look on that carb you'll find a gasoline inlet. It looks like a standard off the shelf electric throttle small engine inverter carb in the video with a propane "snorkle" between the air filter and carb inlet. Also, why does a propane unit need a choke at all? The primer button does that initial charge on propane regulators. Of course you should take the float bowl off to see if they just eliminated the float, needle, jet and emulsion tube, etc. or just maybe removed the gasoline parts and plugged the gasoline inlet and possibly the unused jet port. Also, look at the gas regulator (where the primer button is) to see of there is an adjustment for flow control for nat gas. If my suspicions are correct, based on observation in the video, this may have dual fuel (with possibly modified gas can gravity feed arrangement with shutoff valve sitting on top or nearby, higher than the carb inlet) or possibly a tri-fuel capability, if the propane regulator has a flow adjustment! Multiple fuel options are always desirable in case of shortages during a "dark winter". Dual or Tri-fuel capability would greatly enhance desirability of this unit
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Almost every generator tri fuel, propane gas uses the same carburetor, it would just be too expensive to reinvent the carburetor and having that carburetor installed makes it easier if someone wants to add a gas kit
@Moondoggy1941
@Moondoggy1941 5 ай бұрын
Have you tried to do this test on the new Midea AC units?
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 5 ай бұрын
No, I haven’t. Plus, I don’t think this 1000w is capable of starting an AC unit.
@onlineshopper2510
@onlineshopper2510 2 жыл бұрын
Is it safe to store the generator on the inside of my van after use?(van life)
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 2 жыл бұрын
It should be fine after it cools down
@onlineshopper2510
@onlineshopper2510 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Gavin!!
@thetopnacci
@thetopnacci 2 жыл бұрын
I am considering a dual fuel 2200 watt inverter generator. I'm wondering what the usage might be for a standard refrigerator? How long a 20 lb tank would last?
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 2 жыл бұрын
Hey John, the 2200 should easily handle a full size refrigerator. It takes around 1200 watts to start then it drops down to 130-140 W running. The propane tank should easily last you over 24 hours . Thanks for watching. Thanks for subscribing.
@baxs5076
@baxs5076 3 жыл бұрын
Good find and good job. I’d be curious to see if (if possible) you could document the power loss due to using propane fuel in the cold.
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea 💡 I will run this test again in lower temperatures Thanks for watching
@Bwanar1
@Bwanar1 3 жыл бұрын
The power loss from Propane over Gas is 27% to begin with.
@david_sdiego
@david_sdiego 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bwanar1 That may be true in larger automotive applications but with small hand carry gens, the reduction is only around 10%.
@wadebrewer7212
@wadebrewer7212 3 жыл бұрын
It's trade off though, long term storage you don't need to worry about stabilizing propane like you do with gasoline. 🤔
@david_sdiego
@david_sdiego 3 жыл бұрын
I found cold weather to greatly affect fuel consumption, not power loss. Good idea to wrap your big tank with a 50 watt heating pad.
@j.kevinmann2915
@j.kevinmann2915 2 жыл бұрын
1 lb of propane = 21,500 BTU = 6300. At 25% load this generator produces 3 x 212W = 636 W with one pound of propane. About 10% efficiency converting propane energy to electrical energy. That's not really impressive to me. But, how does it do at full power? Are the results any better?
@jameskirkland5261
@jameskirkland5261 3 жыл бұрын
Very Nice Unit
@PaulLadendorf
@PaulLadendorf 11 ай бұрын
I don't see parts available on the website. Are parts available for this gen or is it disposable?
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 11 ай бұрын
I haven’t checked on parts availability
@fritzkabeano1969
@fritzkabeano1969 3 жыл бұрын
Nice generator but why would you buy this instead of a dual fuel 2500 watt champion inverter generator which was just on sale for a little over $500??
@bunbunson27
@bunbunson27 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for mentioning this. I was going to get the ALP, but after looking at reviews and videos of the champion 2000 duel fuel, I went and bought that today at homedepot for just around $500
@n.b.p.davenport7066
@n.b.p.davenport7066 3 жыл бұрын
Good video,,Thanks!
@samuelclemens9516
@samuelclemens9516 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not an expert by any means but how would a chooke help a propane genrator, the fuel is already in a gas state?
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 3 жыл бұрын
It helps by cutting off the air and allows the propane to air mixture to be higher
@bbhrdzaz
@bbhrdzaz 3 жыл бұрын
What was the outside air temperature/humidity and altitude?
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 3 жыл бұрын
I will have to check back on that day
@bbhrdzaz
@bbhrdzaz 3 жыл бұрын
@@GeneratorReviews generally there is a de-rating of power output for altitude. I live at 6050 ft. Thanks.
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 3 жыл бұрын
@@bbhrdzaz My elevation level is 105 it must’ve been about 75 that day
@slf54
@slf54 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Gavin, With the 1000 watt ability off that propane generator I’m curious what MAN TOYS can i plug into it without it overloading Ie: Razor, iPhone, iPad, laptop, juicer, small fan, elec. drill, coffee maker, drone????? You get the picture, actually there are lots of volts, wattage and amp charts for all the things I listed above on the internet. Remember: VOLTS X BY AMPS = WATTS
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Lol 😆 Like the term MAN TOYS!! The charts will help with the running watts its just the ones that require a larger starting watts that needs testing As always Stacy Thanks for watching buddy 😎
@disabledvetnralifer932
@disabledvetnralifer932 3 жыл бұрын
Great Vid sir
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙏🏾
@yyl3683
@yyl3683 3 жыл бұрын
That engine and overload light design looks so fimiliar😅.
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Which one do you think it resembles?
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Honda EU1000
@n.b.p.davenport7066
@n.b.p.davenport7066 3 жыл бұрын
Will it run a 1500watt heater?
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately it only has 1000w starting and 800w running so it can’t power a 1500w heater you need at least 2000 watts for that one
@larryharvey7709
@larryharvey7709 3 жыл бұрын
👍. Impressive video and generator. Just built a walk in generator room and converted my unit to propane/gasoline. I just may get this as a backup unit. What’s the sale price and where’s it made? That’s a deal breaker. No China products in this home.
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 3 жыл бұрын
I bought it from the manufacturer ALP but like every Generator have some thing from China
@leguirerj
@leguirerj 3 жыл бұрын
Is that 3 hours on a 1-lb tank at 25% load or 212 watts? I think that's what their web site says. It isn't clear.
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Roy it’s 60-hour runtime on 20 lb at 25% load,
@leguirerj
@leguirerj 3 жыл бұрын
@@GeneratorReviews Thanks, I'm trying to compare it with the runtime of my Honda EU2200i with propane converion.
@n.b.p.davenport7066
@n.b.p.davenport7066 3 жыл бұрын
Do they make a 2000 or 2500 watt?
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 3 жыл бұрын
No they don’t but they should 👍🏾
@chrisanderson8553
@chrisanderson8553 3 жыл бұрын
they are coming out with a 2000w in 2022
@MishinFishin
@MishinFishin 3 жыл бұрын
Where can this generator be purchased ???
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Ralph Go to ALP generator.com they are discounted now Thanks for watching
@maximaniac7231
@maximaniac7231 3 жыл бұрын
It's a nice enough little generator but $530 is way too much for only 850 watts. Under $400 is more realistic. I see this being a very niche generator for maybe tent camping so you can power some phone chargers and some LED lights and want the ability to use those small 1 pound propane tanks.
@chrisanderson8553
@chrisanderson8553 3 жыл бұрын
it goes on sale for $459 at time.
@Y_ruba_al
@Y_ruba_al 3 жыл бұрын
Be without power and you will change your mind! Lol I was thinking the same thing… but I thought ….. what if the power goes out, this would be a big help and plus I would be helping the company create new products! So I bought one 2 days ago and looking forward to its arrival…. I will buy the next one that they come out with! Just my 3 cents
@darrenorange2982
@darrenorange2982 3 жыл бұрын
If my math is right, this generator only produces ~3.8kWh for a 20 pound tank of propane. At around 18 dollars a 20 pound tank that works out to about $4.75 a kWh. This generator seems to be extremely inefficient. Another gas generator can produce nearly 17kWh of power with just 3.4 gallons of fuel which is going for about ~$12 and produce the power in 18 hours not 60 hours. Something seems very off here.
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Working on a comparison video with this one I’m going to focus on fuel efficiency
@darrenorange2982
@darrenorange2982 3 жыл бұрын
@@GeneratorReviews Awesome, also I'm not sure how useful such a tiny output is over that long of a time. It seems like any gas generator would be more useful.
@Tom-In-Ga
@Tom-In-Ga 3 жыл бұрын
Okay, so they state that the generator will run any refrigerator and guess who just happens to have one in his warehouse...I mean garage? I swear if they said it had enough power to start a B52 bomber, Gavin would have one to test it with. 🤣 Does that generator not use a regulator or is it built-in? I think the first thing to get misplaced will be that little cap over the gas nipple.
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣 you’re so right about the cap they should’ve probably attached it to the generator because that thing is going to get lost. Thanks for watching Tom! I always appreciate your comments
@n.b.p.davenport7066
@n.b.p.davenport7066 3 жыл бұрын
How much?? Price?
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 3 жыл бұрын
It’s on sale right now for $529
@chrisanderson8553
@chrisanderson8553 3 жыл бұрын
and it was on sale on black friday for 459
@robertprestigiacomo4657
@robertprestigiacomo4657 3 жыл бұрын
What happens when the defroster kicks on? It won’t handle it. No one thinks about that.
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Yep it will the starting watts are 700w and running watts is under 200w defrost will raise it up to 350w
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome question. I like the way you think 👍🏾
@chrisanderson8553
@chrisanderson8553 3 жыл бұрын
if your in a power down situation, the 1st thing you should do is turn off defrost on your fridge.
@dianacc456
@dianacc456 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisanderson8553 sorry to ask a stupid question, but how do you do this? Never heard of it. Does a freezer have it too? Just bought a new freezer, just in case....looking for a small generator to keep it going...just in case. THis is when I wish I had been a girl scout.
@chrisanderson8553
@chrisanderson8553 2 жыл бұрын
@@dianacc456 mine has a switch. Some have a button. Some you can't. If you have a small freezer it may.not. and probably doesn't matter either. It's the big fridges and freezers where defrost uses a lot of power.
@TaaviTuisk
@TaaviTuisk 2 жыл бұрын
The engine looks like a honda eu1000i clone. Has anyone torn these apart, does it look like a gx50?
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 2 жыл бұрын
They are identical clones
@CHARLIE1955able
@CHARLIE1955able 2 жыл бұрын
At 1000 Watts it could run for a long time but who uses the thousand watt generator it won't even power 1000 watt flood lamp right? This will work fine to charge your phone and your laptop
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Yank mcruff Yep you’re right about not being able to power a 1K flood lamp basically this small Generator are for camping and someone needing to run a refrigerator and small loads
@Bwanar1
@Bwanar1 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know why you would want a generator with such limited use. 1000W isn't much. Wouldn't even start up a decent size chop saw. Won't run a standard 1,500 watt heater. Propane is also a lot more expensive and less efficient than gas. That little $5 propane bottle your getting 3hrs runtime on will get expensive fast. On a $3 gallon of gas my 2200W Honda will run 8hrs. And will run the lights, fridge and AC in my RV.
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Most campers like this Generators because when you hiking to the site you can carry it really lightweight and you don’t have to carry or store gas propane tanks make it easy to transport
@Bwanar1
@Bwanar1 3 жыл бұрын
@@GeneratorReviews Thanks...I never thought about carrying a generator and fuel along with all my other gear, sleeping bag and tent. What are you doing with it once you get out there? Does someone else also carry in the Frig?
@GeneratorReviews
@GeneratorReviews 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bwanar1 usually used for heating and light a small 500 watts heater works perfect for the tent
@chrisanderson8553
@chrisanderson8553 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bwanar1 you obviously have not seen a bunch of the powered camping/boondocking/tailgating fridges that are 12v and on wheels. Bougerv, lion, iceco, etc.
@Bwanar1
@Bwanar1 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisanderson8553 Well Chris, what seems obvious to you, is obviously not. I've seen and used a lot of 12V fridges. Not sure where that is going. They run fine off your truck batteries. I just did not see the connection with running a big fridge (not 12V) with a little propane generator. The cost is high and it has limited use. The OP said it was for back packing into camping spots, which even made less sense to me. Because someone else has to backpack in the Fridge. Who's carrying the rest of their gear? I'm just lost on this one. But I don't judge. If someone else likes it, more power to them brother!
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