The Black Lotus - The Most Counterfeited Card

[@PrimalFears]

Lol always blows my mind when Rudy pulls out the binder and just casually flips open two pages of black lotus cards.

[@poultrylord7300]

In a regular, non d ring binder, absolute madlad

[@PlugWoW]

How much money in those lotuses you'd say? And how much in whole binder?

[@blakechagnon8837]

Videos like this are very important for many collectors, with items getting so high value these days we need trust worthy ppl like you showing hard concrete what is right and wrong. Thank you taco god

[@du6ee]

You handling the Lotus fast and loose like that was giving me a heart attack lmao Holy shit there's pages of them!

[@tartuffethespry]

Rudy is one of those guys who is missing the part of the brain that controls anxiety. He could have been a surgeon or something lol

[@dreamlight7634]

it just shows how he is kinda used to handling these kind of cards. If you handled dozens of pieces of power it probably becomes less special and less scary

[@RohxAirsoft]

Still, that page is about $200,000. 😬

[@jtmoney606]

Please stop selling this prick your cards he’s hoarding up all the reserved list cards no wonder they are getting harder to find and buy Rudy has most of them 🙄 no way someone should own that many BL especially when he don’t even play or like the game anymore

[@tree_alone]

​@@RohxAirsoftI could use one of those

[@ryanward6796]

Every time the god books come out on KZbin, a Timmy earns his wings.

[@ircjesselee]

And every time a counterfeit is sold, a Timmy gets a taco.

[@junglerumbler6917]

I love it when Rudy goes in raw

[@a1pha_star]

Ayo? 👀

[@monkey39128]

That's a lot of money on that table! Fantastic video Rudy.

[@boghoss123]

Rudy - Fantastic video walking through SO MANY things to look at when comparing versions. The little differences between version is key, and something that many people aren't even aware of.

[@Shannon_Vlogs]

Genuinely fascinating how the cards are printed in a specific way

[@syjohnston6603]

Can we just get a 10-minute video of Rudy flipping through his god book binders?

[@thehavenseeker]

THISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS omg

[@samagosto7237]

A few years ago he taught us how to reseal vintage boxes. Now he’s out here teaching us how to make better fakes. Good man

[@MadCowMusic]

Today I found out the betas hang to the right. I mean their mana symbol does at least.

[@darthparallax5207]

Getting the mana symbol correct would be something serious counterfeiters had 30 years to learn. And anyway the Dual Lands are a thing. The bold artist box maybe new for some. But I imagine all of those features were known to 2nd generation counterfeiters by about 1998-2003. End of Reserved List beginning of Modern. After that they might have tried to improve passing the green dot test. I'm not saying "all counterfeiters can" I'm saying "serious ones worth stopping" would have been at that level. Stores and collectors are more educated what to look for.....and more educated what counterfeiters know. So in the first place....green dot, Black light, bend test, and blue core are tests you'll have to be thinking you'll be subjected to. Rudy didn't show everything.

[@Verlisify]

I'm really glad Rudy has cleaned up his pronunciation and doesn't incorrectly call them "Lotuses" anymore. He really cares about accuracy and quality for his videos!

[@davidc.parkins1680]

Clearly "Lotusi" is the correct term 😂

[@BonenJump-126gulph]

"doesn't incorrectly" -Verlisify :]

[@howgamer365]

Best video in a long time. It would be awesome to get a video about each old box from Alpha until late 2000s.

[@ZERO_42069]

Rudy basically whipped out his 10 incher and said feast your eyes

[@trentrevis2758]

Thank you for educational videos, Rudy.

[@7Alberto7]

That hopes and dreams box is better then the Godbook,so awesome so much history and stories❤

[@dannydubs]

Rudy just casually showing his 2 millions dollars of his 100 million dollars in carboard

[@NamathCB]

Just picked up an Alpha Regenerate today. Minty, wanted an Earthbind as well but it's too much. Just fun for me to have my 3rd or 4th Alpha card. LOVE seeing these amazing cards thinking back on some of the older vids deciding the broken dreams were indeed

[@DirkVomEck]

Alpha cards are beautiful. I am up to 36 after a recent purchase. Still looking for an affordable Alpha Rare xD

[@WaffleDragon]

Interesting how the Betas can be identified by a printing error on the cost. I guess Wizards was always sloppy on their initial releases. It's just like 1st Edition and Shadowless Pokemon Base Set with the completely off-center attack costs, incorrect Pokemon stats, reversed HP text and innumerable printing inconsistencies.

[@cepopeye]

I used to print Black Lotus off the internet and get in trouble for wasting the printer ink and the glossy photo paper But my little brother and I realized we only played each other and we could just agree to not care if cards were fake as long as the backs were real and the deck could shuffle

[@davidc.parkins1680]

"Rudy's Raw" 😂😂😂 Keep them videos coming! I love all the particulars in identifying the fake b.s. ones good work! Also always good to see such a grand collection! 😊

[@caseywilliams4145]

The only two I have are beta black lotuses and they're definitely not counterfeit because I pull them back when I didn't know what the f*** magic was and just within collecting cards and I started playing Magic and of course I played with them because they are powerful so mine look way worse than the one Rudy showing right here

[@grecalmagro]

I Bought Cheap $10 Black Lotus cards, just to play with my daughter. Definitely a Proxy/Counterfeit… not a professional player, neither expect to play tournament, just For Fun… 🤷🏻‍♂️…

[@austinwilburn1772]

I always figured the duel lands would be the most counterfeit but I wouldn’t be shocked if Black lotus actually was the most counterfeited card though.

[@dennisrobinson4274]

Good information If I ever run across a pile of Black Lotusi. But really, I appreciate the info. I've been going through a 9000 card collection for my stores. Turned out to be nothing but common and uncommon. However there was some ice age and alliances. Would have been worth some real money if they knew what they had. Unfortunately the collection is from a kid that only pulls cards with a R or M on the bottom. 😢

[@mr_drewskii7057]

The hopes and dreams box is back

[@TheDarkElder]

As always, best advise: Compare the item to other items of the same printing, same set, same era. So don't start with the highest value cards but first get comparable cards from the same set to learn what to look for.

[@djdrack4681]

This is why I keep a few common/uncommon/(cheap) rares from each of the old school magic sets in a binder. I rarely buy reserve list stuff cuz I'm mostly draft play, but if i do...bring the binder and compare.

[@moemerhi3734]

guy's handling the lotus collectors addition like it's a code card from chilling reign!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@VPB1218]

Dude 😂 I love Rudy but I treat my sleeves better than he treats those lotuses. This guy just fucks what can I say?

[@tomransdell7881]

Hey Rudy. What do you do to insure a high end collection? How do you store those amazing power 9 cards?

[@6Sisu9]

Under his bed. Doesn't even lose sleep over this😂😂😂

[@reecepruis6322]

Hey legend, aren't you worried about binder ring creasing :O Jimmy wants to know...

[@MadCowMusic]

Plot Twits: Even the real ones are fake...

[@FreneticZetetic]

Where's Rudy's tool?! I'm a casual Rudy viewer, but when he makes videos like this, I start binging all his new stuff!

[@CGoody564]

If you want to see the variance of the brown tones right next to each other; starting at 3:31 look at the Mox Emerald in the middle on the right side of the binder (lighter) and the ones immediately to the left and right of it (darker) especially

[@austinarteaga8222]

Flex on em, Rudy 💪

[@MrXmoda]

always love the card comparison videos where is Rudy's tool though?!

[@PawzBrownMTG]

Amazing Collection Rudy thanks for breaking them out. It's fun to watch how your actually supposed to keep your cards. KEEP STAYING PAWZITIVE BRO 👍

[@315fishing7]

Ppl forget what a serious collection you have hidden away 🤯

[@demonwareltd]

Casually opens the sealed collector box by mistake 😆. I didn’t know I swear 😬

[@TripsAhoy]

Mommmmmmmmm Rudy is showing off again!!! ❤❤❤

[@meeks1103]

Good lord, man's hoarding vintage cards. What a collection

[@vincentvega7464]

this feels like a giant flex and i‘m totally down for it

[@ZeroInfiniti2]

As often as you rate the cards, Rudy rates should be a series or a grading business

[@karbalababy]

Best video in a while rudy

[@mtgtv1384]

the card stock in the 2010s-2020s is so difficult for the average newbie to recognize and differentiate counterfeits from the real thing. ive seen some fetches and such that are VERY difficult to identify unless youre experienced.

[@chim007azo]

by very experienced you mean cursory internet search and some kind of magnification? Font/font position is almost always off and rosette and black lines always give it away

[@DanknDerpyGamer]

@@chim007azo > *black lines * What do you mean?

[@chim007azo]

@@DanknDerpyGamer the black lines on the cards borders should be solid. If the black is made with the rosette pattern it’s a fake

[@DanknDerpyGamer]

@@chim007azo I thought the black-being-printed-separately thing was solved years ago, for better or worse - guess it depends on who makes the fake. (Also not sure how true the black-being-always-black thing is as an absolute, seeing I recall that there were some high res images of Force Of Will on MTGSalvation, and could distinctly see dots of turquoise in the black border, dots that couldn't come from jpeg artifacting.)

[@chim007azo]

@@DanknDerpyGamer it’s not something that needs to be solved. It’s easily replicated at professional printing factories all over the word. The problem is the cost of setting up a factory that can do it. The cost makes it not worth it for making fakes and hoping to not get caught. Printing errors of color in the black is still not going to look like a rosette pattern. Solid black printing does not require a pattern, it has nothing to do with source .jpg Anyway like I said that’s just one easy spot. There are many easy giveaways they have to pass before you even get to worrying about light test and weight

[@mfdoom1898]

Ok but I thought, as you've said, that most counterfeit cards are not power 9, and they're usually newer $20 - $50 cards? Am I missing something here? Did you forget? Is it all just fugazi? Everything is fake, I'm selling everything....

[@NoProHarrie]

One card can be the most counterfitted card whilst on average newer cards can be counterfitted more often :)

[@mfdoom1898]

@@NoProHarrie 👌

[@Tylerbremner]

It’s like money. The $20 bill is the most counterfeited bill. Not the $100. Easier to pass 🤷‍♂️

[@Traumerei112]

rudy i hope you know those binders will dent your cards .. the ones nearest to the middle at least. I learned the hard way, I hope you know that and don’t let your expensive cards all get dinged… because we all know you have like 100,000 binders of power and reserved list cards

[@LordQuintix]

All of us wish for that binder, but we, the Timmy's, never learned properly... How many Black Lotus cards do you need???

[@gilbertoflores7397]

If it's up to him, all of them.

[@샤넬-r7o]

u need better binders bruh 😂 that’s like parking a la ferrari in the hood

[@JesterBeats]

I dont give 2 hoots and a holler about any tcg besides pokemon. But i like listening to you rudy just to hear whats going on.

[@pmaztah]

Man who cares about a cheap 25k lotus when you can pull new cards that's worth more AM I RIGHT ?

[@IndiesVSHeroes]

What about the binder dings from the 3 rings? I’m shocked he’s keeping power cards in a ringed binder. Apparently he’s not worried about it so I don’t know why I am

[@no_alternative9071]

Oooppss accidently grabbed the sealed collector set

[@TheUnknownCollectorStore]

@rudy Any Chance you could make a video about summer magic?

[@Rsfarmerbob]

You welcome back I was waiting ….. lol good content sir ❤

[@mfdoom1898]

🤔🤔🤔🤔 pause

[@Rsfarmerbob]

@@mfdoom1898 unpause

[@jonathanmorris8362]

Ahhhh yes, I too am a gentlemen of fine cardboard jewelry.

[@IneptCardCollector]

💍

[@smey02]

Its always crazy when he pulls out all his stuff and its stored like its 2002 and thats all worth nothing haha

[@a1pha_star]

Thank you Rudy, very cool.

[@link2893]

What a flex.

[@Jeremy1998999]

Thanks Rudy!

[@thesnare100]

What about people getting counterfeits and/or proxies just so they can play in santioned tourney's with them, do all of them get checked and their cards tests at the tourney's?

[@RobbieNero]

Was that a 1/1 rudy red nail polish in the hopes and dreams box

[@agoogleuser1085]

Hey Rudy thanks a lot for this education. I was curious if you could make a all in video on all the detailed checks you do. I know the green dot, lgith, black light and scale test but was wondering if there is more. The Centering of the mana value was interesting! How would you go about checking 50 to 100 dollar modern cards as there is lots of variation?

[@bortbreadface6259]

Texture and general card feel is your best friend for a quicky- compare to other cards from the same set and print run if possible. The green dot + rosette pattern test is will already catch 99.9% of fakes.

[@maltefischer1830]

@@bortbreadface6259 is it confirmed that its just 99.9 percent ? Did anyone ever find a fake that passed both green dot and rosette pattern ?

[@agoogleuser1085]

@@bortbreadface6259 i prefer more stable or call it analytical approaches than "feel" or "smell". For example japanese print runs can feel, smell and look like fakes if you never handled them. And can you specify what you mean with texture and how its quantified or and measurable?

[@bortbreadface6259]

@@agoogleuser1085 Not really, you've just gotta tone down the tism and trust your years of experience.

[@bortbreadface6259]

@@maltefischer1830 I haven't seen or heard one, if one did exist though - and it did pass those tests then the makers of it wouldn't fuck up the simpler stuff like bend test, weight ect - so we would never know, right?

[@willthethrill8661]

In the Rudy vault we trust

[@NamathCB]

Love these vids!

[@comandoLadilla]

Rudy: tried to educate showing different versions of the same card, colors, fonts, etc. Me: Sees same card and no difference, I guess better to not mess with this

[@RP-dv3pw]

“Just had three people look at this car”

[@bigskygemsmontana9464]

I own a mox Emerald. Its my best card, I started collecting when inwas 10. Im 39 now, i own so many reprints, they are awesome, we have fun playing old school death hand decks. Collecting isn't a 401k, its just for fun.

[@AlphaHoarder]

Awesome video!

[@kevind5230]

Good video, thank you!

[@Dafastso]

all i came here for was rudy's unwashed cheeto fingers on bareback alpha black lotuses (plural)

[@EthanBonardel]

Serialize the infamous "Rudy's Raw"! :$

[@joe-di6zf]

i think the plural of black lotus is, in fact, black lotus. kind of like multiple moose are still just moose.

[@ryangraveson6677]

I believe it would be Lotii, because you wouldn't say octopusi (no giggity), you would say octopi

[@stehlik]

Nice FaB playmat there!

[@AntonioSilva-gs6bg]

The plural of "Lotus" is Loti...

[@NerdAndProudOfIt]

always good to see a bunch of lotusses (yes, lotusses 😜!) on screen! 😁👊🏻

[@mtgtv1384]

is it “lotuses” or “loti?” jk lol

[@NerdAndProudOfIt]

@@mtgtv1384 lotusses i say!! 😂😜 (also kidding, of course, buddy 😁👊🏻!)

[@XLR8Yeti24]

Hey Rudy, Nice hair cut! I want to ask you a favor. I’m currently playing a Garth, One Eye EDH deck. I need a proxy Black Lotus! Would you consider sending me a bogus one to use in this deck? I’d hate to have to buy one,& think it would be cool to say,” Rudy sent me this!” You can sign it too, so you’ll know I’m not going to try to sell it! Thanks Bro!

[@pccleric]

Would Rudy volunteer to be the special guest referee when Zuckerberg and Musk have their cage match?

[@FlowLikeWater429]

Not gonna lie that is a beautiful card

[@UncleJamie]

Phoenix by Charlotte Cardin. It is what it is Chat. It is what it is.

[@Diog0_0moreira]

and the 30TH black lotus V1 and V2?

[@africanveteran7728]

How the hell did that bgs lotus get a 7.5? Its a 5 at best

[@medium9738]

rudy flexed so hard on this one

[@VPB1218]

MY LOSS IS YOUR GAINNN 😂 over a table worth my life and my ancestors collectively

[@gokuswanson2037]

Bro those God binders gotta be worth at least 3 tacos

[@scottspears6028]

He didn't even get into the green dot test. I'm surprised.

[@whiterabbit6575]

Nice flex video lol 💪🏻🇺🇸

[@MassiveSwordAndCards]

I see people actively buying $80 black lotus proxy.... they are usually made by MPC and cost the buyer at most $2 per card assuming they have them manufactured in even a low quantity. No idea why people buy these. Print your own or have it made. It's cheap.

[@tomcadden8054]

It only took us 7 years to get Raw Rudy

[@Mtg_duk]

It hurts my mtg soul every time he pulls out the 3 ring binders since they tend to cause binder dings, regardless of how they are stored. 😬

[@TKKCollector]

Seen so many Pokémon card dings. Triggered as well

[@Pers0n97]

He stores them on the side so the pages hang from the rings, thus negating all possible damages.

[@mtgtv1384]

this isnt true. stored on the side like a book, binder dings arent a concern. most binder dings occur from carelessly turning binder pages.

[@TKKCollector]

@@mtgtv1384 I know he has good quality pages (not the Walmart kind) but why risk it? Side loading binders for me all the way

[@ugandanknuckles464]

@@TKKCollector he uses ultra pro, bottom of the barrel in terms of quality

[@bryanedds8922]

Just waiting for Rudy to frisbee the Black Lotus into a closet somewhere...

[@trolling0001]

Lotus Eye see all that power.

[@firecrest3325]

Now they have the super secure holofoil stamps

[@golfnjokes]

Does Rudy have any Alpha Lotuses?

[@madquest8]

My god... LOTR heads to $31,000

[@boltywolty123]

Will Rudy get the one ring?

[@Joe-cp5ud]

It’s about to be the second

[@bavarianwolf3806]

i like how is casual showing off a 30k dollar card unsleeved like its a a stupid evolving wilds ^^

[@IAmQale]

Whoa whoa whoa! Evolving Wilds is nuts. It’s definitely going to get banned one day.

[@brandoncarr1469]

god book comes out, MY EYES

[@blaisecorvin9047]

Everything you showed in this video is equal to one 30th Edition Mox now, right?

[@eggplantcomics8336]

Until the one of one ring came out...

[@ConservativeHippie420]

Knew someone else was on the same page :)