Alternate Ending | Terminator 2: Judgment Day [Special Director's Cut]

[@Stri-ir9hp]

That's not an alternate ending, that's the real ending. The other Terminator movies are an alternate ending.

[@deadheroz]

That's a great way to put it. It's surely the way I see it.

[@TalEl59]

Right on Stevie R.! Right on! I totally agree

[@lgjo9089]

True👍

[@pacom_estible]

What other Terminator movies ? ^^

[@felixgeorgescu2230]

@@pacom_estible there are like 4 more movies

[@matsicprod.810]

The true ending of Terminator franchise!

[@joniahonen8039]

Agreed.

[@warmac88]

Agree

[@TheNuttyStrongman]

YES!

[@fahimalvi9521]

Exactly!

[@yeoedwin1619]

Perfect ending

[@davids.3584]

This scene explains why there was commentary from Sarah throughout the movie

[@CristianoRonaldo-tg3bw]

This comment blew my mind. You're right !

[@relay9898]

She had a tape recorder in the first terminator at the end of it and was making tapes for John

[@jessebolt8526]

*Apart from that, this ending would have made this four Oscar movie winning one Oscar LESS. Because it wouldn't even being nominated for makeup.*

[@TheKenji2221]

​@@jessebolt8526 Haha. I highly doubt it would have helped in any way.

[@Cybersnake-he4zr]

David Semel holy shit

[@nabongobong9155]

THIS is the perfect ending, it connects with the opening scene where we see old John Connor as a war veteran, scarred, in a dark future. Now, we see an alternate future where things are much much better now. John is a family man, Sarah has a grandchild, and the world is safe. This is the true ending to the Terminator franchise

[@novasniper8073]

how does John still exist if Kyle never goes back?

[@RRPB1799]

Is like a what if becouse the first movie is a cyle it self@@novasniper8073

[@orange555]

Nah this ending was wack

[@freddyjosereginomontalvo4667]

This ending could have been too sweet from some people, but taking into account how bad were the rest of the movies who tried to do a "realistc, dark, deep, complex" ending like t3, t4, t5 and t6. Yeah as Patric H Wellmes said: Is better having a good sequel rather a problematic trilogy. This ending Is the best, no need for more. In my head canon John Is married with one of those red hair girl (the ones who the t1000 asked about John). Also his mullet ginger friend Is still his beat friend. John Is also close friend with the childs of Dyson because they shared the same Fate of his father being killed by the machine war. The kids of Dyson followed his father step and worked ok Cyberdine and created a good version of Skynet so Humanitie and Machinnes are in peace. John could figure out what Is the Man who served as model for the T800. But most important John Is working at the senate with the help of his friend a Young talented man called Kyle Reese.

[@Freelancer837]

@@novasniper8073 Terminator time travel rules allow for it. John Connor can't be unborn. The old future is the new future's past. They changed the future by going to the past. It's funny because Terminator 1 was a loop time travel, but Terminator 2 was them breaking the cycle

[@DeepSpaceNinja]

Genisys and Dark Fate are just nightmares Sarah had because of her PTSD.

[@hollowjack7152]

you know what. this makes too much sense.

[@hankb7725]

@@hollowjack7152 no it doesnt. dark fate was the true end. genissys was mah, but its time travel, so alternate realities are always plausible

[@RunwayIsAwesome]

And Terminator 3 and Salvation were nightmares John had

[@rockycuro7737]

Nah, dark fate was ok

[@leoramos8111]

@@rockycuro7737 dark fate was horrible...

[@CelestialDraconis]

This ending healed my soul after the heartbreak and trauma I endured after watching Genisys and Dark Fate.

[@voxkine9385]

After watching what?

[@drlca6601]

You fool, should've just not watched them like me!

[@nolann3815]

@@drlca6601 Dark fate was good lol, in case you didn't know everything was made up....

[@CB-xr1eg]

Celestial Draconis...Heartbreak and trauma over a couple of fucking movies? You seriously need to get out and find a life. SMFH.

[@CelestialDraconis]

@@CB-xr1eg Lmao you've clearly never heard of hyperbole. Also, I can never take people who tell others to 'get a life' seriously, because 99% of the time, they're the ones making these comments in their mother's basements. Thanks for the laughs, clown

[@ericochoa4271]

I like how they tried making the clothes futuristic but still look 90's AF

[@HarleyGC7]

@Jan Pretty sure it’s not 1997 in the clip, she’s talking about the past. The ages wouldn’t line up correctly if Sarah was a grandmother in 1997, no?

[@Xylarxcode]

@Jan It's neither 1997 when this scene was shot nor in the future it's supposed to take place in. It was shot in 1991. But in the context of the movie, Sarah clearly states that 30 years have passed since the time Judgment Day was supposed to happen in 1997, which means this scene takes place in 2027. Real scene: Shot in 1991. Fake movie reality: Set in 2027.

[@jaymum23]

@@Xylarxcode This is a lot better-looking than our real 2027 will be, loud early 90s clothes and all. Love those glass skyscrapers and lots of trees. No homeless, no smog, no shootings, people appear to be intelligent- this really isn’t culturally possible in America. Nice fantasy though. What I love about this scene- the subtle continuity errors regarding the setting. 😁 The opening pan reveals a clear future Washington DC, with the monument and Capitol (sans fascist insurrectionists) visible in a nice matte painting. But then at 0:40 you can see a palm tree in the background vegetation. At 1:25 John lifts his daughter up and the camera rises with him, to reveal the San Gabriel Mountains in the background. Whoops! 🤣

[@Antimanele104]

Well, it's 2022 IRL and our sense of clothing hasn't seen no major change since the 90's so they kinda nailed it.

[@C.A._Old]

Me too... Legendary James did created this Franchise All Of Times ! +1

[@shopshop1971]

Such a perfect ending. Genesys, darkfate were just totally worthless

[@raynekraven]

Genesys wasn't so bad. Dark fate was utter feminist garbage

[@Quickscop3r4u]

​@@raynekraven i liked salvation because it focuses on man vs machine instead of time traveling and trying to stop it

[@raynekraven]

@@Quickscop3r4u salvation was decent. I enjoyed the scene when John comes face to face with ''arnie'' and the t-600 scene

[@pogtuber5146]

@@raynekraven LOL "feminist," why? At which point in that entire movie did the fact that the leads were female make it political? Why is Dark Fate political but the original two movies (which also have female leads) are not?

[@raynekraven]

@@pogtuber5146 at an era where male characters a reduced to stupid sidekicks, this movie isn't an exception. The only male character that could have been useful,(aside from the Terminator), was Dani Ramos' brother, but he (conveniently killed off almost at the beginning. When Grace arrives, instead of taking the girl's clothes, she takes the guy's clothes, making him look stupid. Because for her butchy character, women's clothes are a huge NO-NO. They masculinized Sarah Connor who was strong and feminine in T-1 and T-2. Because Feminity and strength doesnt go hand to hand in feminists minds. Then the killing of John Connor, who ALWAYS was depicted as the legendary Leader of the resistance, to replace him with a Latina Woman (because God forbid choosing a white girl, coz you know, diversity, and also another guy had to die, just because...) and the replacement of Skynet by Legion... That movie is utter non-sense. And The Terminator is named Carl now? and owns a drapery business? James Cameron RARELY misses the mark, but when he does, it is Epic.

[@siraphobatamakoolsri3596]

“Because if a machine can learn the value of human life maybe we can too” Bro that deep

[@WindiChilliwack]

Makes us wonder, can we solve problems like neighbors not aliens?

[@KneeCapHill]

You saying it like it wasn't a super try hard #Deep speech. Do you also point at the actors when they walk on screen ? It's as ham fisted as a statement can get. Nothing subtle of introspective about it

[@XavierBetoN]

I am a human and I just learned the value of machine by this sentence..

[@gatsbymaguire]

@@KneeCapHill what

[@benjip5590]

Don’t be such a sap

[@sahinduezguen]

*"I had always thought that it was important to show that their efforts, the sacrifices made by Terminator and by Miles Dyson, were not in vain and that history was changed."* - James Cameron

[@gundammon]

"We can't make sequels and milk a franchise to death with an attitude like that, so fuck that guy. Now wheel out geriatric Arnold and have him do some halfassed stuff, so that stupid people will think this is remotely as good as T1 and T2". Some Hollywood exec, probably.

[@DonDecarlo]

But the producer thought otherwise. Lets force-feed and ruin the franchise and make some money.

[@SinewRending]

@@adamschaeffer4057 Thank you.

[@JKiler1]

He's not wrong, but this ending was terrible. Of course what we got instead was war without end, no matter what changes were made.

[@justabrokezombie6252]

And then Dark Fate happened... Made by James Cameron no less. Which is why Dark Fate is a literal punch to the gut, *a betrayal*

[@burgersbiblesaeh849]

You just can't beat T2. One of the greatest movies ever made. Should have ended it there.

[@MutohMasahiro]

They did end it there, what are you talking about?!

[@seanestro]

it indeed ended there. everything else after was purely fanmade. lol

[@C.A._Old]

Why They Cut this Scene ?! +1

[@shonaboy7554]

James Cameron didn't want anything to do with a a third film. He was offered to do T3 and he refused.

[@gerryfromthevoid8986]

The sequels sucked balls, all of them.

[@El_Crazyknight]

I like that despite being a bit cliche happy ending on the surface it is still bitter sweet for Sarah Connor , she is still haunted by a future that never came but knows they still need to fight the good fight to prevent it from coming back , scarred by the traumas of her past but still has a little hope for the future.

[@SkemeKOS]

That's what I liked too. I must be hard to have been so prepared for a hellish future that (thankfully) never came. That would easily mess with your mind thinking about

[@SoldierOfFate]

After all the shit she's been through, she deserves this happy ending even if it is a bit cliche.

[@protocetus499]

This is the true ending

[@williampaz2092]

I think that what really saddens her is that if she ever meets Kyle Reese he will never recognize her or fall in love with her. She thus lives out her life in love with a man who will never know she exists..

[@KoolKeithProductions]

​@@williampaz2092 Bro...this ending can't happen. It makes zero sense. That's why Cameron cut it out.

[@swarz08]

I just imagine Arnold standing in the distance, smiling, putting on his shades and riding towards the sunset.

[@arkotheuhh7297]

Now I’m imagining that and smiling

[@Jdmking-kp1mu]

He’ll be back.

[@TashfinKun]

aw man, now that i am imagining it i wish that happened. that would've been the best ending!

[@RetroGaming-gp2ef]

I would’ve cried

[@crecky_crooj]

@@Jdmking-kp1mu he'll always be back

[@michael6255]

Its great they used the same John Conner actor as in the prologue

[@orlandoaugustostock839]

Michael Edwards is his name.

[@jhinelforajido1908]

Connor. Why do you guys always change the names? like Gordan, or Conner?.

[@Interessâncio]

Its John Connan you dumb

[@jayz6008]

@@Interessâncio haha

[@sandEffect]

Michael Side effect: John Connor (or Conner) has lost MAJOR man points.

[@vankhorne]

1991: They make Sarah look older. 2019: They make Sarah look younger.

[@poselsmrti5376]

A healthier way of life, more exercise

[@GoHawk70]

2019: They make John look deader 😭

[@FaissalsAnimation]

That was one of the few good things in that movie...It impressed me

[@blackbird7781]

Lmao yeah you are right lol

[@sselemaNrM]

Well.. *Dark Fate SPOILERS INCOMING* in dark fate, skynet didn't happen because sarah and john connor prevented it in T2. But another AI named Legion emerged later in the future, and they they got a T101 and sent it back in time to kill John Connor shortly after the events of T2, and actually succeeded. After that T101 completed its sole objective, it had nothing else to do. It couldn't go back in time, so it just adapted in the world and lived like a human. How Legion got hands on a t101.. who knows.. T101 model in T2 did leave an arm IIRC

[@bubediscuss]

"Michael Jackson turned 40" 😂c'mon Jim ya killing me

[@supernastja_art]

ikr, like what’s wrong with the director and scriptwriters, are they bad at math or smth? like how in the world MJ turned 40 in 1997 if he was born in 1958?

[@RYMAN1321]

That line aged like milk.

[@Roxana_Official]

@@supernastja_art besides all that.. who even cares about muchael jackson lol. at first i thought its a meme or something

[@CaptainCaveman1170]

@@RYMAN1321 Milk, lol took me a second!

[@payammasoumi5001]

Cause he was a god no one thought he would age like others​@@Roxana_Official

[@cybergothika6906]

"John fights the war differently than it was foretold. Here on the battlefield of the senate, his weapons are common sense and hope." That ending was much better and badass. On a very decent, classy way, it was still badass.

[@careNsympathy]

IDK. That line is a little corny.

[@Parasmunt]

I don't like it, most who become senators do so because of connections or wealth.

[@rhuman8672]

Sounds like we could do with John now.

[@terje1228]

@@careNsympathy very much so.

[@johnnyhb89]

The sad part the war isn't going much better. The skynet party holds 59 seats in the sentate, 1 short of a veto proof majority. Terminators occupy only 3 supreme court seats, but once sworn in, immediately terminated 3 of the other justices. They were asked specifically during confirmation about this , but wouldn't answer as they felt answering whether they would or would not murder the other justices gives an impression of how they might decide in a given circumstance of whether to murder justices.

[@tehcolazn85]

Anyone else realize that if this ending were used instead, it would’ve been the only real time in the entire movie that she was happy, and SMILES too? this is definitely the true end for the series.

[@mirak63]

she was happy when Kyle nailed her.

[@JSB-2Z-2K]

Linda Hamilton did a tremendous acting job making her character look so serious

[@grantimusprimeofficial2732]

@@mirak63 OH YEAAAAAAHHHH

[@JoseMorales-lw5nt]

@@mirak63 Sadly, we got a peek at Sarah being happy right after her night with Kyle. The morning scene afterwards, she pretended to toss a bag toward John. He cracks up, along with Sarah. For a split second, both characters were actually shown to be happy. Then came Ah-nold! 😎🇵🇷🇺🇸📽🗽🦂

[@paulsmith9192]

@AznCracker something I've always wondered,even though future Kyle Reese died,but didn't present Kyle still be born?wouldn't Sarah and Kyle runite?

[@thanos9536]

Imagine if they made more movies after this, they probably would’ve sucked

[@alpha-1redrighthand829]

Man imagine if they did. Man that would be shit. I love this ending. I did hear their gonna be making a movie about the future war I can’t wait.

[@memset777]

The movies after T2 did suck 🤣

[@ToumalRakesh]

I'm glad they never did. Just imagine if they made sequels to "The Matrix"... Good thing they showed some restraint.

[@rogvortex58]

Or a TV series on Fox with Cersei Lannister as Sarah.

[@doubleflores8350]

Rise of the Machines was actually pretty decent if you asked me. It wasn’t as good as the other two, but damn it that ending was so impactful. A lot better than the final three Terminator movies.

[@untouchable360x]

T3 should've been the Future war with the final assault on Skynet. It ends with Kyle Reese and the good T-800 being sent back in time. Would've been the greatest trilogy ever.

[@PunYT]

Imagine if the final boss was that giant wall of weapons with a voice like in T2's arcade game.

[@saberiandream316]

That's literally what T2 should have been. I don't like overcomplicating the time travel in Terminator, and for all the people who complain about that, that started RIGHT _HERE_ in T2. In T1, it was a very simple closed time loop. Not so with the sequels. Terminator was never supposed to be about the time travel! Why Cameron felt the need to rehash T1, I'll never know.

[@Mr.PR2000]

I actually liked the idea of T3 being Judgement Day. It was just not executed well.

[@knightwind6628]

Exactly, I've been saying that for years. The third and final movie should have taken place in the dark future. Should've came out 2 years after this and wrapped up the trilogy perfectly. Sadly, though, it did not happen.

[@TheRealKazberry]

Someone should make this as a fan film. Get a bunch of the greatest fans of the first two together and produce it. I'd watch it a million times.

[@chitoryu12]

And there was never another Terminator movie ever again.

[@TheLuthorri]

Not like this but still there were others..

[@donttouchmeimscared]

true and real

[@bogusmcbogus2637]

@@TheLuthorri i think there was a joke in there bro

[@Auxodium]

THE END

[@scottsalinas7019]

If it was it would have save us from terrible sequels

[@clownman9184]

This is where the Terminator Story ended, John was never killed, Kate never existed, and there was no Genisys countdown, John and Sarah simply went on with their lives, nothing more nothing less

[@kosolo1988]

Yes!! This made me cry

[@FalconFlyer75]

I mean technically if John had a daughter then he had to have been with someone (could very well be Kate) but yeah they should have just left it here

[@philippeflores6672]

Kate existed along with her fiancee and her father.

[@BooshMasterOriginal]

And Michael Jackson died in 2009.....

[@happinin]

i would have also accepted kathryn brewster being his long lost girlfriend that became a lieutenant. that could have been an amazing final encore. but they screwed it up.

[@jordanmatthew6315]

To me, this is cannon, you can feel the "peaceful end" after the close. Really damn nice.

[@Smokingwrecker]

Same here,

[@qweqwevka]

p.s: in 1997 michael jackson didn't turned 40 (his birth in 1958)

[@gregbors8364]

Yes, it is cannon… an explosive ending, it shoots you right in the heart

[@jamesjameson4566]

Dude it's a nuke, not a cannon. Some people 🥴

[@doejon9424]

Sure beats Dark Fate's beginning & ending. They kill off John Connor 5 minutes in, claim a T-800 (Carl) finished the job, that Terminator then walks off into the sunset/ocean, mission complete, no secondary missions or anything. Go from cold blooded killer to docile baby after "leader of the resistance" is taken out. I find it very hard to believe that Skynet is that careless, lazy & forgiving. That's just terrible script writing.

[@gordonjohnson405]

It would be great if Linda Hamilton would re-record this scene now. Because there is value in hope.

[@AnalogFoundry]

Maybe she should in 6 years from now in 2029.

[@oliver.n278]

That would be awesome (and looking of course much more natural then the "aged" young Linda from 1991

[@zzeronerzz]

they fucking have genesis though!

[@SkemeKOS]

@@AnalogFoundry 2027* Judgement Day was 1997. She said this is 30 yrs later, unless she is just estimating.

[@thomasvleminckx]

@@SkemeKOS Why would she have to "estimate" the year she's currently in? Does she have dementia?

[@generalshepherd2209]

I like how they utilized the same actor for adult John Connor as in the opening. But they made sure to pay attention, and you can see that he lacks the scars his post-Judgement Day counterpart bears. Nice attention to detail

[@DoktorSpakur]

Well, it would be a wierd choice to make an effort to put the same make up on him to match the pictures from the apocalyptic future that didn't happen. Great movie with great effort put into details nevertheless

[@DoktorSpakur]

"Nice attention to detail, that Sarah is talking about her son John, instead of having her ending the movie with a monologue about her only child, a daughter named Jane."

[@sebastienmonette6659]

This movie is just full to the brim of details

[@therearenoshortcuts9868]

i guess the only problem is: if judgment day never happened, what happened to Kyle Reese? and how could John have ever been created?????

[@andresponce-vazquez9158]

@@therearenoshortcuts9868 Well its not a circle, Kyle came back and had John. The information they got from him was used to stop judgements day and change the timeline. They created a new timeline

[@AnnaDraconida]

Sarah Connor: I have survived unimaginable horrors, saved my only son and my last link to the love of my life, and also saved humanity in the process. At last my story arc is complete. Hollywood executives: Nuh uh

[@Crimefighter]

Timelines were split...the New 52 so to speak...

[@johnburt7935]

@TroubadorPoet Hope. What a concept. Hey, remember this: the virus in our own 2020 won't be around forever. Neither will the orange skidmark. This too shall pass. Pandora still has hope left in her jar.

[@VunderGuy]

@@johnburt7935 The Cow Goes: Moo. The Pig Goes: Oink, oink. The Sheep Goes: ORANGE MAN BAAADDD. Trump Goes, after winning 2020 no matter what lies you say or how dirty you play: Winning

[@VunderGuy]

@TroubadorPoet Sounds like winning throw losing to me. Which is fitting, because are gonna lose like you've never lost before come november. So hard, the next guy after Trump is gonna be effectively Trump's third presidency after Obama tries to run away to Kenya claiming Kenyan citizenship.

[@johnburt7935]

@@VunderGuy Correction. The pig goes: Obama is a Kenyan!

[@ZyxthePest]

I like this ending and there's nothing inherently wrong with it, but sometimes, subtlety works best. The shot of the road going by says so much more with so little. Just a "life goes on" vibe. Sarah doesn't get complete closure, but she does have her faith in humanity restored. Sadly, it also opened the door for terrible sequels.

[@LilypondMovie]

I agree, the open-ended ending is much more satisfying from a human perspective. It's a lot more immersive cause you're left to guess what happens next, so it encourages imaginative thinking. But somehow a bunch of execs interpreted the positive response to the ending as us wanting to be told what comes next rather than imagine for ourselves

[@elgoblindo2795]

i thought salvation was alright

[@ZyxthePest]

@@elgoblindo2795 Salvation's fine, yeah.

[@elgoblindo2795]

@@ZyxthePest that’s what I’m sayim

[@Terarien]

For me this Movie is the End of this Franchise

[@RedBishopGaming]

I love how this is miles better then every movie/series after T2 combined. And it's only 2 minutes.

[@saberiandream316]

Makes you wonder why they left this out of the final product.

[@machupikachu1085]

Do you mean Miles better? As in Dyson?

[@wescarroll3980]

How in the world have I not seen this before this is perfect. The perfect ending.

[@burgersbiblesaeh849]

It was on a pretty rare to get directors cut. I've seen it before but it's been years. They should have made this the ending.

[@banderas2000]

i never saw it either. idk if it was on the dvd or not. i have the vhs.

[@fhlostonparaphrase]

Yeah, I thought I had seen all the extras for T2, but never seen this before. Great stuff, especially seeing John as dad on a playing ground, instead of on a killing ground.

[@ikannunaplays]

@@banderas2000 It was on the DVD, that is where I first watched it. Something you will never get anymore on Netflix, the DVD/Blueray bonus content.

[@kieribama]

I thought I had the directors cut dvd, but this isn't on mine? I've never seen this before either! 🤯

[@zvimur]

The novelization not only kept this ending, but had Kyle Reese as an aide to Senator John Connor.

[@rustyshackleford1040]

Zvi mur Yikes. I don’t like that at all.

[@zvimur]

@JC Denton Some SF writers maintain that time tends for self correction.

[@zvimur]

@JC Denton to be fair, the whole breaking into CyberDyne was creating a paradox. No Cyberdyne and Skynet, means no Kyle. And John. The 1st and 3rd movies were about maintaining the timeloop.

[@zvimur]

@JC Denton causality needs to exist. Even if effect predates the cause. The photo we see in Kyle's hand in T1 is identical to the one we see in Mexico. Granted, it's unclear who's having the memory.

[@zvimur]

@JC Denton parallel Sarahs and Johns are for me more headache than I'm willing to accept. Have same problem with the ending of BTTF. We see 2 Martys with different backgrounds. Where the 2nd one (who was raised by SF writer George McFly) ride to the past with no knowledge what he'll do. Yes, likely repeat all that happened. But... and I'm running out of imagination for possible complications.

[@normalplayer7377]

I consider this ending canon. All the other movies are fanfiction.

[@zantas-handle]

Not fanfiction, just fiction. No fan would ever support the dross that stained this franchise!

[@KaziKami]

They could technically be alternate universes because i guess when they time travel they create alternate universes or something idek.

[@nicotipro2]

@@KaziKami Correct

[@Spillow-C]

Hollywood is such a joke now, ruining franchises has become the norm

[@garretbrown3098]

What do you mean "others?"

[@jemal999]

This is a nice scene, but they made the right call leaving it more open-ended in the theatrical release, it allowed everyone to decide for themselves, or debate with each other whether they'd actually changed the future or not. Also, PS: This scene is supposed to be set in 2027... 4 years from now. Linda Hamilton has aged MUCH more gracefully than they imagined!

[@DeltaKnight]

Personally I always preferred thinking they succeeded in preventing Judgment Day. As the sequels have gone on, I've more and more chosen to believe that's the case.

[@kane_lives]

You must have seen the wrong photos of her. The movie is actually uncannily close to how she looks now without a ton of cosmetics.

[@severett86]

Also, there's no way that she'd be in DC sitting and watching her granddaughter play. She was the sole surviving adult that was involved in the attack on a company that caused millions in damage and left several police officers wounded after a violent escape from a state psychiatric facility, all for a cause that she could never prove because any exculpatory evidence was destroyed. She'd still have to spend the rest of her life living in exile in a country with no extradition treaty with the US or face life in prison.

[@wingknight7132]

I sense something very bad is coming in 2027

[@Kevillion]

Where the terminator series actually ended. End of discussion.

[@Dragosflash]

why? why you have to be so radical? the other 2 were actually good.

[@markurban9113]

what series? there are just two Terminator movies

[@mercenarygundam1487]

Everything else is basically fanfiction written by kids after hearing of Sara Connor's story

[@lancelot5125]

@Patrick Killyou Yes the latest shitty Terminator movie was made for the shitheads like you.😂😂

[@samto7857]

@@Dragosflash "talk to da hand"

[@Nicholas_Chen_]

Sarah's granddaughter looks just like her. Fantastic casting and beautiful poetry.

[@petrinajc]

It was Linda's real daughter at the time this was filmed.

[@davidheisnam743]

@@petrinajc what about now?

[@monkeyman12328]

David H. Nah not any more

[@akuljamwal3085]

@@monkeyman12328 Daughtern't

[@UGV88]

@@petrinajc wait, whaaaat? Are you serious? It is her real daughter? 😮

[@BL4CK-L1ST]

I have seen this movie countless times and only now i’m aware of this. It’s like a long lost treasure.

[@ryanodonovan9497]

Same here.

[@usmanarif2004]

Same,

[@UtopiaBlue68]

Same here guy's

[@orlondoruth3562]

Same...I thought this was a skit or a joke before I clicked on it lol

[@cambonious23]

Interesting…

[@danielnavarro537]

“The future is not yet written. There is no fate but what we make for ourselves.” -Sarah Connor

[@wtcvidman]

A bullshit line that contradicts all the rules of time travel set in T1 and an inevitable future that T1 laid out and the biggest mistake they did in T2, yet so many fans who don't know better buy it up as if it's gold. It's bullshit in every way (Kyle never told it to Sarah as John in T2 said and if it was true then John would've had a different father in a timeline that would've passed prior to the time travel where he sent Kyle back to 1984 but that didn't happen). The future in the series was always written (we didn't need a shitty 3rd film to remind that to us). It was not a mistake how they ended up in the Cyberdyne factory at the end of T1. That was always destined to happen. It happened in the 2020's that Kyle was from before he ever time traveled because there was always a Kyle Reese in 1984 to have gone back to protect Sarah and ultimately lead the terminator to that factory. Instead of getting the shitty 3rd film we got, what we truly deserved was a 3rd film that brought things full circle & ending with Kyle time traveling back to 1984 to close the loop after Skynet was blown to hell. Another interesting thing they could've done in the version of T3 we deserved is to have Arnold play a human character who is a high ranking officer in John's resistance force that the machines would've captured and cloned much like Solid Snake in the Metal Gear series. I always thought they should've shown a reason why so many terminators had Arnold's form and explaining it as the machines cloning a genetically superior human (i.e. the character Arnold would play) would've cleared that up and perhaps even made him infamous and taint his reputation (to perhaps make John not trust him when it came time to pick who would be in the upper ranks of his resistance) as a result of the evil terminator's actions in 1984. It would've been amazing & very badass if Terminator and Predator were owned by the same group so that the person cloned and used as a mold for so many terminators could be Dutch, though that would probably not make sense since Dutch was from 1987, not the 2020s. To make it work, it would require him being frozen in some stasis like state where he didn't age, but since Dutch was a different franchise anyway, might as well have made it a Terminator-specific character.

[@danielnavarro537]

Dawg 💀 It was just a quote from the main character of the movie. 😭 I didn’t expect a full lengthy critique of the quote with the entire idea of the film. @@wtcvidman

[@Bro-cx2jc]

​@@danielnavarro537Oh shit...you replied to them ☠️

[@whiskii]

A couple decades ago: "Lol this alternate ending is shit!" Present day: "This ending is canon. Nothing else matters."

[@MissMedeiros]

Is canon from me.

[@PapaJoJ]

I wouldve preferred this back then and I do now.

[@CatMaster90001]

Perhaps all the reason I need to hate these so-called Terminator "fans"...

[@X1xone]

Yeah, this alternative ending sucks.

[@009radix]

Um, if you say so. This was the ending that should've been in the theatrical release even when I saw it in the Ultimate Edition (yes, decades ago). It made sense and provided closure - Humans won, Sarah can live the rest of her life knowing she saved humanity, end of story. Hollywood was too greedy. Everyone knows most sequels suck. Look at Highlander, it should've ended at the first movie. Alien and Aliens and that's it, but they had to push their luck and trot out the steaming pile called Alien^3.

[@kaikai9122]

If only they knew that if they use this ending they could’ve saved the entire franchise

[@paulsmith9192]

@Kai Kai something I've always wondered. Even though future Kyle Reese died, wouldn't present Kyle still be born? So wouldn't Sarah and Kyle Reese reunite here?

[@kaikai9122]

@@paulsmith9192 that would be pretty messed up 😬

[@chrisreed3040]

Yea I don't know why this was a deleted scene.

[@MephProduction]

@@chrisreed3040 it wasn't. this was filmed years later i think,

[@MephProduction]

@Shaquir Bourjolly it wasn't theatrical release so it was a scene that was deleted, a deleted scene they're called

[@coyoteprophet9734]

Wow, that short clip was better than the entire movie Dark Fate.

[@pofarrilla]

jajajaja

[@estelasayeed5608]

Coyote Prophet obviously an exaggeration

[@mystyle_jm8997]

There's one problem, the existence of Smartphone Technology since this movie is 1996.

[@62salv]

That short clip was better than everything that followed T2!

[@paulfisker]

And we shoud have watched that instead.

[@paulkirby2761]

If we actually had a time machine and saw just how terrible the following Terminator movies became we'd have surely ended the story with this really nice closing scene.

[@thtdiinc6739]

This is where the Terminator franchise ended for me. Perfect ending.

[@abcd-dk5zp]

+++++++++++++++++!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Sirdiggar]

Definitely

[@lawnmowermanTX]

Linda Hamilton looks hot anyways! The other shorter one is a cute flirt! To get drunk with Linda Hamilton.... Yum! ❤️❤️👍

[@Pingaheimer]

i think this ending is horrible and corny lol, theatrical is superior, dark and mysterious. And more in line with the principle philosophy of the film; we make our own fate, this ending shits on that imo.

[@paradigm_sh1ft532]

Yes Sarah is living a peaceful, stress free life after breaking out of a criminal psych ward, blowing up a laboratory & firing at cops with a guy that matches the description of the 1984 LAPD massacre. This ending is stupid. Law enforcement all over the country would still be hunting her & John.

[@EmperorsNewWardrobe]

I’m so glad no terminator movies were ever made after T2

[@TheKennethfilm]

You're right!

[@abehambino]

Yes, while a natural reaction is to ask for more when you like something so much, James Cameron wisely decided to end it at 2.

[@Xpistos510]

Dark Fate. And it was good. Sue me.

[@homelessend8557]

@@Xpistos510 I'm sorry but did your parents beat you when you were little?

[@EmperorsNewWardrobe]

Jacob Serrano, I don’t understand what you’re saying

[@NoelistAvenger]

The reason this ending wasn't included in Terminator 2 ? They wanted to make sequels. Great move guys, great move.

[@doburu4835]

Nah, cause it's cheesy

[@YESHAYA_]

U mean ... money 💰

[@NoelistAvenger]

@@YESHAYA_ Same thing.

[@Paul-sj5db]

@@doburu4835 of course it is. The whole franchise is.

[@JELopezCastillo]

It would’ve still open up for more sequels. I personally think that Terminator 3 Rise of the Machines concluded the franchise really well. All we fans needed was a future war prequel.

[@ShopEskimo]

0:43 never noticed how easily you can see the fishing line on the hover frisbee the two "future" people are tossing around.

[@dabda8510]

Saw that too.

[@mikevanroy9356]

Arnold Schwarzenegger becomes Governor and Sarah screams "He'll kill us all!"

[@KINGRODP]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@gkiss2030]

Meanwhile Arnold: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYiVq2amgq5_o5o

[@tinastanley4444]

Haha stop

[@MichaelEduardoLeeHolyProphet]

Laughing Out Loud

[@gendoruwo6322]

now i know why you cry... but it is something i can never do.

[@tsarfox3462]

If only this was the canon ending and we didn't have to suffer through the other terrible money grabs.

[@edcrespo1722]

You don’t need to wait for the money people controlling the franchise tell you if it is or isn’t, this is what the director intended, what came from his heart at the time that to me is canon.

[@tsarfox3462]

@@edcrespo1722 Very true. I kinda view the films after this as terrible fan fic.

[@tsarfox3462]

@ihatetwitter8463 And you're a judgmental prick.

[@Paka1918]

Not canon. Only an another timeline and crap.

[@nickoftime5759]

I prefer the directors cut of T2, but this alternate future ending is simply ridiculous. There is no way that John would grow up to be a senator. He and his mother would still have to live the rest of their lives in hiding as fugitives after everything they did in their efforts to stop Judgment Day.

[@Diego-lt4wm]

0:51 Seeing John having a very good time with his daughter is so awesome

[@megavide0]

1:14 "The luxury of hope was given to me by the Terminator. Because if a machine can learn the value of human life... maybe we can too."

[@vancityguy]

And here, ladies and gentlemen, the Terminator franchise officially concludes...

[@Travis_22]

Hell yeah. Everything afterwards was just disappointing

[@Djp2987]

T2 3d lol!!

[@The_Curious_Cat]

Yeah, the sequel "Rise of the Memes" was terrible and after that it got even worse.

[@canalRetro269]

@@Travis_22 Maybe Sarah Chronicles deserve a chance.

[@saberiandream316]

I like T3. Like it more than T2.

[@Helmutlozzi]

Gotta love how the old movies always portray the near future like some perfect utopia. As if the same incompetent governments we have today just disappeared.

[@shafqatishan437]

Underrated comment. People fail to see it

[@saintultra2737]

It’ll happen. Life is struggle, but with each day humanity manages to rise a little higher. Don’t give up.

[@redadamearth]

With respect, you need to see more "old" movies. I'm assuming you mean films from the 70's, 80's and 90's, the vast majority of which portray the future as DYStopic, with GRIM futures. And even the very few "utopian" examples during those three decades turn out to be run by corrupt, fascist lunatics or governments. The *majority* of science fiction films have portrayed dystopic futures, unless you're talking about sci-fi from the 50's and 60's, which was more positive. From the 70's onward, sci-fi has been mostly dystopic and showing nightmare futures. In fact, the only *positive* sci-fi future world I can think of after the 50's would be "Star Trek" and even that involves war and conflict. The only reason *THIS* scene is "positive" is because she stopped the nightmare future that was already coming - and it was deleted from the film.

[@VacationWise]

Yeah, our own government elites are actually the ones planning our termination.

[@shafqatishan437]

@@saintultra2737 all governments are corrupt

[@Herrbrayne]

The perfect ending would have been a guy running in at the last second yelling about how the bugs just destroyed Buenos Aires

[@Widestone001]

Do you want to know more?

[@birmingham102]

Michael Gallagher 😂

[@birmingham102]

Or game over man! Game over , - said Hudson .

[@JoseRamirez-ze4sh]

Your comment Is gold! 😂

[@Sponsi_PL]

Nooo suddenly people start sneezing and telling others they feel they have fever : /

[@badname8501]

1:25 "if a machine can learn the value of human life maybe we can too" That's deep real deep.

[@Zalanly_0047.]

This line has made terminator 2 the best movie among all the other terminator movies, especially for me.

[@jakegrodovich350]

This just goes to show how much of a masterpiece T2 is when even the deleted and alternate scenes are just as incredible

[@nabongobong9155]

This whole 1 minute scene is better than the whole dark fate movie

[@DJT544]

along with so-called "Sequel" films which brought only agony and pain to us.

[@mopanov]

That’s a pretty low bar to clear.

[@scottmantooth8785]

*you mean woke fate?*

[@catrionacolville2192]

I actually reallqyq enjoyed Dark Fate.

[@Dylan-cs3ke]

I liked dark fate actually it gave the franchise another chance with the storyline but sadly it didnt work out in that way

[@maximumcarnage2988]

This is not a good ending, this is not a bad ending, this is the REAL ENDING, not only of this movie but of the ENTIRE franchise

[@alekesam]

I like the original ending. It still carries the same weight but this one is more final (which is why they probably cut it).

[@Gencturk92]

@@alekesam i hate when movies have scene's deleted especially when their good, titanic had 31 deleted scenes and half of them were good. its just a waste of time and effort

[@alekesam]

@@Gencturk92 Were they on the bluray? Might pick that up just to see what Cameron kept versus what he left on the cutting room floor.

[@Gencturk92]

@@alekesam of course its on the DVD aswell, i have both of them on dvd and blu ray but blu ray is amazing

[@masonf7332]

@@Gencturk92 facts. I’d love to watch the whole Titanic movie with deleted scenes included, who cares if it’d be like 4 hours long lol

[@benjaminguzman8645]

I refer to this as the “deleted ending” instead of the “alternate ending” because alternate means that it’s not canon, but this ending is totally canon. The true ending to the Terminator saga.

[@NickJR528]

This is the ending of the extended special edition, so you can just watch that and pretend the sequels didn't happen

[@benjaminguzman8645]

@@NickJR528 Yeah for me Terminator is a duology and the rest of the movies are just alternate realities.

[@MrDoBerek]

Holy crap, after almost 30 years, I see this for the first time...And tend to think that this is the better ending.

[@eltravos99]

I think the idea for the scene and her narration is great. That being said, the scene is awful. The costumes, the future city, the old lady makeup...are all just so bad. This would be like a sore thumb compared to the rest of the movie. I think it would work if they redid it and did a better job. Who knows though, maybe we're seeing an unfinished scene. It really does lack the polish and coolness that James Cameron normally brings.

[@JFLOJUDO]

I tend to think you’re wrong

[@j.m.m7895]

Same there, man

[@smokingcrab2290]

Same. And it actually gave me a feeling of hope for humanity

[@francisssfrancis]

nope.. better ending is terminator 3

[@done-ahhh578]

The dark future which never came still exists for me. Like a faded dream. Dark fate was one of Sarah's nightmares.

[@StevenChris]

Shit your right...

[@AndyRetroGamer]

We all think so! Cause this shit, can't be real!!!

[@danlayson9623]

If...IF they decide to do Another one. I say retcon Dark Fate and make it a nightmare sequence. Then be a sequel about humans vs terminators. A better reboot of Salvation. F it, just stop. No more Terminator movies. *i want True Lies 2. Not 3 or 4 or 5 more Avatar movies!

[@andyv.1584]

The terminator resistance game story line is pretty good. Been watching the gameplay on theradbrad channel

[@Usernumber777]

crisis in the multiverse

[@jakish]

What I really love about this ending is that it ties up the running theme with the children's playground very nicely. It's shown several times thoughout the film, the very beginning, both the flashback with John on the swing and in the ruins of L.A. 2029. The opening title crawl shows the playground on fire, and of course the amazingly horrifying atomic blast dream sequence. It goes to show that the future is secured, that the next generation of humanity is spared from Judgment Day.

[@jokerinthebronx]

First time I saw this, I thought we were going to get screwed, and the nukes go off and fry Sarah and her granddaughter just as she's tying her shoe. I actually like this ending better. You broke the time loop, and it's over. Skynet is worse than Michael Myers.

[@kuruptzZz]

Also, it concludes and explains the narration by sarah throughout the film. She was telling the story after 30 years

[@avidodd26]

looking back, i think 90s futures are the saddest futures. the western world was so full of hope for technology in the 90s.

[@barricaderc7007]

Finally saw dark fate. THIS should have been the end of the franchise. Lifetime Terminator fan and I truly feel this would have been better for everyone

[@Bumxaur]

This is the best for everyone. I consider this a true ending, for it cancels all other continuations. I am glad that she is.

[@ihavetofishable]

Unfortunately, we all know what is really coming and it won't be like this. beware 2024.

[@blackbird7781]

Dark fate wasnt half bad but yeah this would have been an amazing ending. I prefer it when there is a happy ending

[@blackbird7781]

@Geronimo did you actually watch it?

[@blackbird7781]

@Geronimo ah so you are sexist. Neat. And also yeah most who hate on it never watched it. You have yet to prove me wrong.

[@NeffNotSponsored]

“Maybe we can too” *Nuclear Holocaust scene immediately plays after*

[@benjaminmathias5004]

Dude, I thought that too. That would’ve been awful

[@jameslane9537]

I was expecting it too. After all, we're humans and excellent at finding ways to screw things up.

[@pauldickinson3961]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5iUoGahpLl_ja8

[@nonh1]

For me this is not an "alternate ending" of Terminator 2. It is the one and only true ending.

[@e-satan9032]

and the other terminator movies are the alternate endings.

[@Loquitaco]

This ending is hot garbage. Glad they didn’t go with it.

[@nonh1]

@@Loquitaco It's a little corny, yes, but it provides a satisfactory closure to the story.

[@e-satan9032]

The dark road with sarah connor narrating is better and gives you that dark maybe, maybe not vibe. But this ending is definitely better than the newer terminator continuity.

[@korrblank1361]

All wrong.

[@asagara34]

This was a perfect full circle moment for Sarah Connor. To go from being a nobody waitress and then going through what she did and then the end she got delivered last days in peace with her grown-up son and and beautiful granddaughter.

[@marcuscarana9240]

It's been so hard for Sarah being almost the only one who have knowledge about the future that they prevented. Even though they succeeded, the memories haunt her. Scars that would never go away. She really is a true soldier.

[@NateP377]

We must go back in time and force the producers to put this ending in to save the terminator franchise

[@charlespancamo9771]

this is the best comment by far

[@nachgeben]

It won't matter. They'll send someone back in time to wait for that person and kill them before they get two feet away from where they appeared. You will not stop the genisys of Terminator's dark fate.

[@buggerlugz6753]

Think its a bit too late for the terminator franchise dude........Like everything else, it should end at part 2.

[@mikexii13]

@@buggerlugz6753 Thats what he was saying basically

[@gbh_events]

I don't lol to youtube comments very often. But when I do, it is to this one.

[@davidrosev9523]

Damn imagine if Terminator 2 actually ended like this and no other movie was released.... kt would have been perfect

[@vegeta8169]

What do you mean? It did end like this. There are only 2 movies.

[@theaegis5795]

@@vegeta8169 So? better than the garbage we ended up with

[@axelnilsson5124]

You do know what a retcon is right

[@therearenoshortcuts9868]

problem with a perfect ending is that people would love it so much that they would demand more guess all that's left would be prequels etc...

[@kevinmontoya7318]

No it wouldn't you fan girls would want to see what would happen if they actually kept going

[@jokerinthebronx]

I grew up in the 80s and 90s, and we all fell in love with Sarah Connor. First, we watched her be rescued, and then she became a sort of Terminator herself. Completely badass. When she, "died of cancer," in Terminator 3, I was in a rage. I just saw Dark Fate, and when Linda Hamilton appeared on screen, my 45 year old ass went crazy. Sarah Connor will always be a fan fave, just as much as The Terminator. Thank you Linda.

[@AZ-rg3rf]

You old wrinkly ass. Go get some military training and join the resistance.

[@Nick-s9f6h]

@@jokerinthebronx and I imagine for some adolescent boys it was the first time they saw tits on tv.

[@mojojojo9458]

How have I never seen this alternate ending before? Bless the KZbin algo for suggesting this.

[@spencer.kissack.the.author]

Bless it? An algorithm? You see, this is where things start to go wrong, where it all breaks down.....This is why google will really become Skynet

[@greenlightcomics7602]

Now that is a true happy ending for this franchise.

[@benjaminthibieroz4155]

Terminator is no story meant to have a happy ending. The original ending left the audience with the death of the T-101 and uncertain future for humanity. It strikes deeper in my opinion.

[@melvinleechenglee]

I’ve got closure for terminator 2! Finally from shitty terminator follow up series.

[@johnthreesixteen5643]

@@melvinleechenglee seriously

[@fredmac8247]

Green Light Comics here, here I agree to that 1000%.

[@Eric71751]

320th like...

[@allanstott6999]

Never knew this existed. Very interesting ending. I was expecting a nuke to go off at the end tho.

[@happyhappyjoyjoy6563]

that would have been perfect!

[@INDRIDCOLD83]

No kidding, was going to say the same thing until i saw your comment.

[@GodittoC]

69 likes, make a wish!

[@AlwaysLookEye]

Finally a real ending.

[@leo11lim]

The t2 extended cut has this ending.

[@Ashy504]

Michael Jackson turned 40. That line alone proves Jackson's star power and the influence he was at that time on the world for Sarah to mention only Jackson's name among every other life events.

[@voicevitality7197]

Yeah, she couldn't even get the correct age. It should be 39.

[@dawski4697]

“Here, on the battleground of the Senate, his weapons are common sense and hope” We could do with a bit of that right now

[@david2869]

Especially on the battleground of the Senate.

[@Quaid44]

In the future everyone will dress in 90s futuristic style.

[@KingofKpop]

😂

[@danlayson9623]

There's still shoelaces in the future?? 😂

[@mNag]

@@danlayson9623 I haven't tied a shoe in like 15 years.

[@rickyhall7514]

Well styles repeat themselves, generally with a twist of some sort. I mean just look at plaid coming back and those 80s to early 90s jeans girls are wearing again.

[@DerricktheWhite]

Spray paint all of our skyscraperd silver

[@Zamppa86]

Such a beautiful ending. And if you think about the last words Sarah says here "Because if a machine can learn the value of human life maybe we can too..." that's a sentence every world leader should hear and especially assimilate/understand. Because if they did then this world would be a whole lot better place to live for everyone of us.

[@chasejackson7248]

One machine did that, while hundreds of million of humans have done that we already beat that one machine.

[@steveh5307]

Why do you blame everything on one person or a group of people? You do realize people are terrible, right? They assault, rob, rape, and kill. Everyday. Nobody told them to do that. The people themselves do that. I blame the people.

[@joermnyc]

@@chasejackson7248 Skynet: I learned it by watching you dad!

[@sulkmahidonkeydek3424]

It was programmed to follow John Connors orders and his orders were to neutralize not kill

[@The_Curious_Cat]

I think the people that need to assimilate that sentence are the billionaires that scrape every cent out of their workers without caring if they have a proper life or not. That creates desperate people that have nothing to lose and do all kinds of bad things. Either that or they just end up living in the streets and then are treated like trash. World leaders have some power, but compared to the power of money they are just a bunch of spineless pawns.

[@IvanKala]

I always cry to that outro song, ... a truly masterpiece

[@TheMinchio]

I loved how they used to portray the "bright" future in the 80's and 90's, even if it was just a few years a head in time.

[@usamakhan7856]

Now we just guess which wave of COVID will it be 10 years from now

[@recoveringsoul755]

Seems most movies now are all horrible futures

[@IngTomT]

This scene is in 2029, so 40 years after the movie was made, that's pretty far in the future.

[@Ispeakthetruthify]

@@IngTomT Exactly. The kid in the Robin Hood outfit playing soccer, gives it away.......

[@tonyjonesbassoonwhippet2271]

Shouldn't Sarah and John both begin prison?! Their combined list of crimes committed in this movie is ridiculous😂😂 Movie logic is ridiculous. I'm not surprised they binned this ending

[@dylanbarnes6041]

Imagine if kyle sat there next to her and said amazing day isn't it

[@bdk316]

That would've been good, in first movie he said he grew up in the ruins after Skynet attacked, so its possible he was born right before 97. This scene is 30yrs later so they could've had him there as complete stranger just sitting down like you suggest

[@jorgecabezas1966]

Kyle reese born in 2004, 6 years after the 1997 and if it is 30 years later is the 2027, he will have 23 years

[@brettcooper3893]

"Nice day for a walk."

[@jawarakf]

@@jorgecabezas1966 how old is Sarah by then? Sarah will introduce John his father before proceed to MILF relation with young Kyle.

[@jorgecabezas1966]

@techradio kyle isn't dead in this future

[@Artemis-y7x]

Wonderful ending. I got to say I love it more that the official one. It is so simple, but so profound and subtile. The genuine joy of a little child, who just knows happyness and love... reminds us that man is never born sad and bad, he becomes sad and bad. It could be otherwise, it only depends of us to change that

[@carsenmaxwell3336]

I understand why this ending is loved, but the ending they stuck with was left open ended for a time. To leave the audience wondering what would happen next?

[@MRob6971]

@@carsenmaxwell3336 And I don’t like what happened next four times over, lol.

[@georgethompson3763]

See you guys in 2027! Tag me in four years! We'll see if the 1980s fashion has made a come back. Only four years to move the Washington Monument closer to the US Capitol, and to build all these futuristic buildings on the National Mall!

[@bassstuffidk19]

i think you maybe dont understand what subtle means

[@Artemis-y7x]

@@bassstuffidk19 oh really? enlight me please

[@nickzilla20]

An alternate universe where Termniator 2 was the real ending.

[@saberiandream316]

T1 is the true ending. Nothing after that exists.

[@mystery4561]

Don't listen to the person below you, this is the perfect ending.

[@stevenbaxter9099]

Nice to see Sarah and John Connor both survived covid 19

[@EricGraham94]

Honestly, *I* would be glad if we could at least get out of this pandemic and we have normal days again: everyone goes to work, everyone can have relationships again, children can play in the playground, etc.

[@jerrythebaum4388]

@@EricGraham94 Nothing is preventing you people from doing that. Get out of the house and live.

[@Blanke-i3h]

@@EricGraham94 stop believing hoaxes

[@redjirachi1]

This is the better timeline: Covid-19 doesn't exist and Al Gore won the 2000 election

[@southsideman4891]

What about the vaccines?

[@Juggernogger64]

"John fights a different war, here on the battlefield of the senate, his weapons are common sense and hope." Even if the war of the machines didn't happen, John was still destined to be a Leader.

[@paulkellerman2603]

That's make sense.

[@sergezor]

How he was even born? If no Judgment Day, then no Kyle Reese in 1984 and no birth of John

[@cleanerben9636]

@@sergezor wibbly wobbly timey whimey

[@JL-rv9lm]

When John met Mitch McConnell he realized our country is doomed and threw himself in the acid.

[@guytech7310]

"the battlefield of the senate, his weapons are common sense and hope." There is no common sense in the US senate.

[@Nicholas_Chen_]

Bet you guys now all consider this canon, don't you ;)

[@BatPierrot]

Never heard of it before but after Genisis (didn't see dark fate) it looks canon enough to me

[@henkman00]

I always did 🤣

[@jh6025]

Yes sir.

[@fukkandre]

Wish it was

[@jackdaone6469]

Definitely so after Dark Fate.

[@upgrades23hike]

This is the ending we deserved. Unfortunately, it's not the one we got. 😢😢

[@seanchaney3086]

Yes it is, in the novel and the.ultimate cut of the film

[@wtcvidman]

No, the ending we deserved was a 3rd movie set in the future war against the machines that ended with Kyle traveling to 1984, thus bringing the series full circle, along with a 2nd film that didn't shit all over the time travel rules laid out in the first film. There was no changing the future, yet they just decided to ditch that rule because it was inconvenient for what they wanted to end T2 with. The whole "No fate but what we make" is bullshit. Kyle never said that to Sarah. The only time we ever hear that in T1 is in a non-canon deleted scene and Sarah is the one saying it, not Kyle and it makes no sense for someone like her to have said it when she doesn't understand things from the future point of view. That's why they left it out of T1----because it didn't fit her character nor did it fit the predestiny style time travel they were doing where the future is unavoidable. Despite everything they did in T1, they ended up leading the Terminator to the Cyberdyne factory where remnants of the terminator from T1 were obtained by Cyberdyne. There was a non-canon deleted scene showing the processor being found by a Cyberdyne manager, but T2 stuck with that as well, so we saw early on in T2 how they only sped up the inevitable by their actions in T1. Even if you ignore that though and only consider the scenes we got in the theatrical version, when you watch the ending of T1 when the gas station guy tells Sarah that there's a storm coming, she replies "I know" meaning not the weather but the nuclear storm that is the war started by the machines and the movie ends on that doomed future note. T2 should've done the same thing but instead chose to retcon and break the very rules they laid out, which is a prime example of bad writing.

[@MisterBinx]

This is a better ending than all the terminator movies that followed.

[@johnclayton4946]

Wrong!!

[@johnclayton4946]

@@makench0 I'll be back!

[@johnclayton4946]

@WhyOWhy Hasta la vista baby!!!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@johnburt7935]

We should just bookmark this clip and play it whenever anyone brings up the later Terminator movies, remember that THIS is the real ending.

[@chin258456]

at least salvation is the most make sense as a prequel

[@ChillPill365]

"That was 30 years ago..." Or only 7 years from now. What!!

[@evooff]

​@Anthony Skidmark You mean Biden?

[@evooff]

@Anthony Skidmark Sure, her too.

[@MrMnmn911]

@@evooff Nope. The fascist Democrats will bring in SkyNet. We are doomed.

[@ventricality6997]

@@MrMnmn911 nah, you're thinking of Hell on Earth

[@MrMnmn911]

@@ventricality6997 Nope. The fascist Democrats will bring in SkyNet. We are doomed.

[@JonnyTGood]

"Michael Jackson turned 40".. weird thing to add.

[@thesurvivalistkid12]

He was actually 39 that year funnily enough😂

[@JonnyTGood]

@Frost agreed

[@hogartstrain5641]

Frost look up Michael Jackson interview with kid

[@mrsqu8688]

Frost Bruh the families were paid off, sorry your prince in shinning armor turned out to be a troll.

[@theonewiththeeyeoftruth884]

Getting the age wrong is even a bit weirder.

[@johnsmith2221]

One of the rare times I think a sequel is better than the original.

[@Crichjo32]

It's a tough call. I think T2 is probably the superior film, but it does drag a little in the second act when they go out the city in the desert part. T1 on the otherhand is a very tightly told and focused little beast, that has not an ounce of fat on it. If I was bored one night and had to choose between the two, I'd probably pick T1.

[@harbour2118]

They both have very different atmospheres, Terminator 1 was action/horror, T2 was action-thriller

[@ir8free]

Aliens, Extraction 2, etc.

[@saberiandream316]

T1 > T3 > T2 for me.

[@Roxana_Official]

how is this better? michael Jackson?!!!! its pure joke

[@SirCap]

Looks like we found the real ending to the Terminator series, boys and girls

[@mikebasil4832]

Especially because Sarah didn’t die from leukaemia and lived to know her granddaughter. Amen to that.

[@azazellon]

"Nothing much happened. Michael Jackson turned 40." okay, bit of a tangent grandma, but go on. Edit: y'all are missing the joke but alright I guess

[@SalemGhassanHanna]

He was probably the most famous person in the world when T2 was made. His 40th would have been a big deal if his public image didn't implode over the rest of the 90s.

[@abloogywoogywoo]

@@SalemGhassanHanna In this alternate universe Jacko didn't go Wacko.

[@TheDragonballboy]

@@abloogywoogywoo he never went wacko but his accusers Sure did

[@DJGamingSmash]

In this alternate universe, he's still alive, I believe is the point.

[@PiCheZvara]

That's what hurts this scene too much. Such a pointless, cheap pop culture reference during something that's supposed to be poignant and emotional. Good that Cameron didn't use it as this wouldn't age well.

[@devillarratt4134]

Its been 30 years, they should refilm it with Linda now

[@happinin]

they did. it's called dark fate. it still sucked.

[@0801075001]

yeah they did, and hamilton's elderly makeup looks much realistic than this one

[@happinin]

@@0801075001 too bad the movie sucks tho

[@adampkalb]

That would be a great way to cap off the second Terminator movie if James Cameron were to re-release it today to make sure that Terminator: Dark Fate never happened, to re-shoot 2 minutes with Linda Hamilton and Edward Furlong all grown up. I think they might like that. April 25, 2021, 11:52pm

[@anthonygabo]

It's pretty much the same face 😅

[@mikebasil4832]

Definitely the ‘actual’ Terminator ending and new beginning that I would have preferred. 👍🏻

[@pizzathehutt1812]

This ending definitely cements it as the actual ending to they terminator story. Period. Gotta be the best cut of the movie

[@Maikyl.]

What is better? Sarah being a grandma peacefully with his son John, a good father playing with his daughter. or John killed by the t800, and a depressive Sarah with nothing to lose

[@acrsclspdrcls1365]

Yes

[@CDTcrew]

Perhaps

[@darrensmith8730]

@@acrsclspdrcls1365 First.

[@Xtremedarkjoy]

Ask a feminazi then you'll understand the dark fate

[@theaegis5795]

@@Xtremedarkjoy it's... not even the feminazi stuff that ruined it for me. the god awful movie ruined it's fucking self. it was a disaster waiting for a greenlight. now, what you want is terminator resistance. the TRUE sequel/prequel/wtf time travel?!

[@marchizproductions4137]

I will never waste my 2 hours of my life again on Dark Fart when i can watch this incredible 2 minute video on the true ending to the Terminator story. John Conner lives, Sarah Connor celebrates and cherishes motherhood, lives a peaceful life. No more stupid and repetitive sequels. Terminator salvation is the only sequel that deserves respect for trying to do something different.

[@Supasmartguy]

You totally should watch dark fate. It's a great movie. The action scenes were actually better than T2, and the characters were equally good, but it is positively riddled with plot holes.

[@MephProduction]

No, Terminator shouldn't have a happy ending, otherwise it just shats all over the first two movies.

[@usmanarif2004]

Yes agree salvation had more substance to it

[@sihanchen7552]

@@Supasmartguy What is the purpose by continuing to watch when the main character to why this story, why this franchise even exists in the first place, has been axed off? What is the point of watching a movie for only mindless action scenes? Its no different from eating a beef sandwich with no beef in it.

[@Supasmartguy]

@@sihanchen7552 the Terminator franchise did not completely revolve around John Connor.

[@moviejunkpodcast]

I think they should build off this deleted scene, and make a sequel to Part 2 (again), with Linda Hamilton beginning the movie with this scene but with something leading to a new threat. This can bring back Linda Hamilton and Arnold at the current age. The tones of part 1 and 2 need to be felt in order to move forward. James Cameron needs to come back to direct.

[@MediumRareSteve]

“Batshit crazy grandma is talking into her recorder thing again mommy “

[@nameless.greyceo]

This made me laugh out loud

[@caremell]

Rogobono why batshit is crazy yet bullshit is made up

[@nameless.greyceo]

@@caremell because bats cause coronavirus and people to go crazy buying toilet paper.

[@malikholmes5045]

@@nameless.greyceo so which one is corona virus??? Batshit??? Or bullshit???

[@gumunduringigumundsson9344]

@@malikholmes5045 What is whaleshit supposed to be? It is the biggest of them all. Corruption in politics resulting in a dystopian hellscape ruled by rats that evolve to make the same mistake. Killer whale shit: Corporate greed resulting in a world run by an A.I. paperclip maximizer. Only to be used hypothetically. Please. 💞

[@PopaHame]

I officially approve this as canon.

[@jimmorrison2657]

Wow, that's great. So it's official then! Awesome.

[@darrensmith8730]

Thanks for confirming!

[@ryanr.3925]

Fuck you god

[@Thunderbird616]

@@ryanr.3925 well fuck you kid

[@Runny117]

Could you also make it our new reality? Thanks, God! You're an ok guy

[@cool6197]

If only James Cameron knew what are people going to do this franchise he would've made this the ending

[@MarilynMalkovich]

He did the most recent one himself though.

[@XenoTronusWeePoo850]

@@MarilynMalkovich Yeah. And failed.

[@Caninekidnapper]

@@MarilynMalkovich nah he only had partial writing credits. This one is on Tim Miller, what a hack.

[@alexandersison2030]

@@Caninekidnapper Some of the most controversial parts of the film were Cameron's, definitely. I think it just means maybe only Cameron can execute those ideas. Or he has to provide a more detailed bluprint like what he did with the Alita film which was great.

[@Britishwolf89]

Remember when Cameron helped promote Genesys? Honestly, look it up on youtube.

[@solblackguy]

Looking back, this is the ending we needed