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Monologue is at the end of the video for those disinterested.

[@EnforcerX71]

Love how Harvey basically has to drag Kane to places he's doesn't want to go.

[@annapreble]

@@EnforcerX71 i guess that's why kane body checks Harvey so much hahah

[@Inventure751]

Maybe now he knows how Jinx the cat feels

[@maurice251]

The Circle of Life : rabbit eats sweet potato, then gets eaten by furry potato

[@AtlasBlizzard]

Mufasa should've put it like that.

[@eddiehayes1523]

"He's a wolf. And he's a derpy psychopath." 😂

[@mattlars89]

Rabbits are an excellent source of protein, they breed like rats. Taste like chicken. And they grow relatively quick. Not a bad meal.

[@EmperorNacht]

I love how he doesn’t sugarcode anything to his audience 😂😁

[@misskickshaw330]

as someone who occasionally dips into african safari content, the rabbit clip was about as spicy as Heinz Mayo in terms of "unhinged natural carnivore behavior," whatever that means. if people think wolves eating baby rabbits in one bite is scary, try watching hyenas slowly ripping apart an antelope from the back forward, while it's still alive and screaming.

[@summershine6601]

Forget Kane eating the rabbits, Harvey the husky was the one slurping them up LOL

[@silverscorpio24]

"The problem neighbors and their problem dog are outside." Kane: "I got dis."

[@sarahaimwithmoore]

A world of yes! We as humans literally bred dogs to specifically kill & eat rodents for us, not to mention it being a big reason why people kept cats around? These people really has to touch grass once in a while. Hope the medicated powder stuff works out💜

[@AtlasBlizzard]

"He's a f***in' wolf." There, case closed.

[@silverscorpio24]

"The neighbors are out. With their problem dog." Kane: "I got this."

[@creaturexxii]

When it to a dog's prey drive, it depends on the breed and individual. Some breeds like huskies and of course wolf dogs tend to have a higher prey drive, whereas a pug not so much. Even then, with breeds that typically have a higher prey drive, some individuals can get along with small animals. I saw this video where this female husky named Belle nurtured and cared for some rabbits, viewing them as her own. Whereas with Harvey, well... "he's a derpy psychopath."

[@Mister_Skar]

Do people not realize when dogs like squeaky toys it's because it imitates the squealing of prey when the dogs rip them to shreds? Their instincts are to attack and kill other smaller animals for a reason.

[@collegemaster5683]

I knew it, before I even had my first dog, what _other_ reason was there to like that annoying squeaking?

[@foxracerdrew]

But the real question is, why after ragging the squeaky toy around would my dog then start humping it for the next 5 minutes?

[@frankyank2843]

Never saw such a mushy, happy, non-paranoid wolf before. He's so happy in his environment! You've raised two awesome fluff sons!

[@gzkarr3730]

0:30 Kane, "This is a distress call to all wolves in the area! The evil siren has reawakened! Sent reinforcements! We must destroy this evil siren because it taunts our howls! Come quickly!"

[@ashiagefa646]

he will tell the story of an ancient howler whose howl is longer and louder than any alpha even an entire wolf pack

[@MarvynG]

Another thing is their molar teeth, which are narrow and built to cut meat and some bones. Our molar teeth are flatter surfaced for processing plant matter (and meat). Here's a cool fact too: some herbivores that eat mainly grass (horses for example) have their tooth crowns going deep into their skulls to last longer, this is called hypsodonty.

[@enzomessina2858]

The people trying to police you on what your dogs should eat have clearly never had a dog in their lives

[@collegemaster5683]

You'd think one would know even if they had a damn ROCK as a pet that dogs are carnivores. Look at those teeth: They don't exactly look like they're meant for munching on grass for the rest of their lives.

[@saba347]

​@@collegemaster5683 They have molars and they are actually omnivores.

[@the_undead]

​@@saba347from what I've read, The ideal diet for a dog is 70% meat, 30% particular plants, which I'm pretty sure falls into the classification of carnivore because carnivore does not mean only eats meat, It means primarily eats meat and is capable of surviving purely off meat (as far as I can tell) hyper carnivore would be something that is 90 to 100% meat so polar bears or most snakes

[@TitanAEX4]

Ah, more tornado siren singing! Been a while since we've heard our favorite housewolf sing along with the sirens.🥰 Just wish the dang mites would go away, already...seems like Kane has gotten addicted to the powder. Here's praying it works! I also like how you called out all the people screaming about the rabbits getting killed - as you said, *_WE HUMANS_* will happily go to a store to buy a nice T-Bone or Ribeye Steak - and those come from cows that have been slaughtered! And an _especially_ big "thank you" to clarifying why you don't put Harvey and/or Kane on a Vegetarian (or God forbid, VEGAN) diet - the fact is that they _can't_ survive on veggies. I didn't realize they can actually get Vitamin C via meat. Regarding the study you brought up...I think I remember hearing about that. Like you said, plants have feelings, too, it turns out. At any rate, thank you, once again, for taking such good care of Kane and Harvey. Even if they can be a handful sometimes.😎

[@jbird167]

People who think dogs/wolves can go vegan should watch the various clips where "vegan" dogs choose meat over vegetables.

[@kitsunekaze93]

dogs/wolves should eat both veggies and meat!

[@saba347]

Human children don't like eating vegetables either, but they should eat them! 🥬🥦🌽🥔🥕

[@honeybee2587]

I think it's 10,000% abusive to take cats, dogs and wolf/dogs or any other predator for that matter. And force a vegan diet onto that poor animal to suit your own twisted views. If the pet owner wants to have a vegan lifestyle that's fine. But to force it onto a natural predators is horrendous. Because the worst part of it is it ruins their health. Yes cats, dogs and even wolf/dogs along with some other predators can eat some fruit and vegetables. But they cannot live a healthy life on just that. It would be like getting a snake for a pet and expecting it too swallow carrots.

[@KromeLazarus]

I love Harvey going Ham as of late. Kane being an Absolute Doofus with the Powder.

[@NinjabladeHanzo]

I guess we know which ones never grew up with a See N Say Kane is a better siren than the actual siren Kane = “ I am pest control.” Harvey = psychopath with violent tendencies

[@duckman12569]

"I'm not gonna censor that" Not what I heard, I heard a beep.

[@the_undead]

I think he's talking about censoring the wolf behavior, not particular words

[@W0lfenstrike]

"Oh noes! Dog & Wolf eat rabbits! 😱" - Yeah? So what, grow up.

[@klarakhan]

i cracked up at "derpy psychopath" haha - great video, you made some excellent points! and its always a joy to see the puppers ❤

[@womanishthing1994]

I'd only be worried about parasites and fleas from the rabbits, wild wolves don't have dewormer or flea repellent so they probably deal with it a lot.

[@tdata545]

My girl is a derpy psychopath too. She loves running FULL SPEED up to people then stopping, sit, wait for pets after making them defecate themselves since she's a big black dutch shepherd mix. The only mix in her that isn't a "scary" breed is the Lab of which she's only 17%. Another thing she loves, is when I'm doing Cruisn' the Coast (Mississippi's 45 mile long car show every first full week in October) is when in a crowd, likes to sneakily lick the back of people's knees. Trapper her older brother not so much. He's a foxhound/Catahoula.

[@parkerthomas3803]

Harvey has a lot in common with plants. Given he himself is a potato.

[@soundrogue4472]

Plants have chemical stimuli receptors yes (I can't think of the correct term) plants react to chemical changes and can recognize certain things

[@marks7502]

neighbors are the worst

[@BlankPhantom-iw8yq]

People hunt rabbits. Dogs hunt rabbits. Not seeing a problem here!

[@geet9830]

imagine being a visitor at the neighbor's house and you look at the house over to see a whole ass wolf mean-mugging you lmao

[@dyingearth]

Kane is answering the call of the storm siren.

[@codefreak8]

Dogs are gonna dog

[@DBVintage]

I had a low Contant wolf dog, 1/4 grave Wolf 3/4 German shepherd. I saw him snatch a mockingbird out of mid air and eat it right there. I wish I still had him because my current yard is infested with rabbits and voles.

[@kimberleysanders]

My exceptionally lazy nearly wholly indoor dog once ran down and ate a baby chipmunk in the backyard. She ate the head while I screamed and came in looking immensely self satisfied (very much like a certain derpy psychopath).

[@carloszelaya3758]

My god, I had a near feral German Shepherd when I grew up in Central america who would hurl himself up tree trunks to catch iguanas and leap into the air to snatch birds out of the air. and you best believe he ate every molecule. And I as a kid LOVED watching him do it. On the other hand I had a cat that left dismembered rodents all over the place at the same place at the same time and I thought of him as essentially a serial killer. Basically if they are going to kill things they better eat it lol. Like someone else already said here in the comments, what is more ethically sourced meat than the one you catch yourself ? All I know is If I was one of those baby bunnies and some giant predator hundreds of times my size dragged me out of my bed and killed me they BETTER eat me. I mean. I would rather not die at all obviously, but If I am going to die, at least put my corpse to use.

[@annapreble]

yeah ok but I'll never forget what a screaming rabbit sounds like (shudder)

[@lightningfantb3824]

I tried everything with my Jack Russell terrier. The only thing that stops and prevents itching is a bimonthly cytopoint injection.

[@blue749]

Not a big fan of the neighbors, hmm? Seems like there's a little bit of a story with that!

[@R.M.MacFru]

"Make them vegetarians." Excuse me, what?? I am completely out of facepalms today. I also remember the plant study you're referencing. It made me feel guilty about harvesting herbs for about five minutes when the thought rolled in of, 'you idiot, if you don't eat plants or animals, there is nothing else TO eat.' Even water...we kill all the microscopic life in water for it to be safe to ingest. Something has to die for something else to live. That's just the way it goes because we're not plankton or algae.

[@annapreble]

@@R.M.MacFru i just watched the movie Life, which I've already seen 3 x. That is the sobering truth.

[@inventgineer]

Harvey is like if Jar Jar Binks was a Sith Lord 😄: "powered....FUELED by the chaos of his derp.......the Grand Potato of Horror....takes no cheese prisoner....."

[@N0rthAI]

Nature's gonna nature. I can understand the argument that we need to reduce livestock farming etc, but there's no more ethically sourced meat than something hunted and the natural diets of animals are there for a reason.

[@chrisgg80]

i’m too high to be hearing that fern story

[@shroomyesc]

As long as you don't let them out into the wild to hunt native wildlife (like some people do with cats roaming free, decimating bird populations) it's only natural that dogs with prey drive will catch small mammals (or sometimes lizards) that come into your yard. I don't know how convinced I am by the idea of plants having consciousness (at most to the same level as like a clam) but hey, that doesn't mean carnivore pets shouldn't eat what they naturally will.

[@DirectorOfChaos9292]

That yard belongs to Kane and Harvey. It's their territory, and anything that enters is fair game (minus cats)

[@nightfighter7452]

I'd just buy them raw food from the start rather than have them dig something up from the yard where neighbors could be using who knows what kind of chemicals that could runoff anywhere. I'd eat rabbit too personally, but the baby ones i see in my yard are cute so i like to pretend there's a difference 😂

[@mullet_muffins]

folks complaining reminds me of the vegetarian lion in Futurama

[@karakreativevlog]

One of my dogs used to eat the rabbits and voles in our old backyards. 🤷‍♀️

[@marks7502]

head or chest mount for camera?

[@the_undead]

Hand

[@cwookdev]

Now Kane's a chicken

[@rizakatsudon]

Brave (and pretty stupid) rabbits to wander literally into a wolf's den 🤣 Hard agree on the "don't push human morality onto non-human animals" part!

[@woofgbruk5947]

Cheese lives matter!!!

[@urielgrey]

You can try also using corn starch. It's a base ingredient in dry shampoo.

[@BruderSenf]

its like rousseau said "true nobility is savage"

[@KaneyoriHK]

I feel like those people who go through all this nonsense to not eat meat, goin on and on about animals' feelins and proceed not to give their pet a diet they need. Yes they could eat the non-meat, but it's not good for them. Animals cannot consent like a person, they cannot choose a diet freely, humans can consent, and choose our diets freely. Don't go on about nature if you do this, you're no better than the people who you may bash or harrass for eating meat. Note, this ain't to all vegans, just the ones who'd do that. It's not good for them, just get a pet that eats veggies if you're that bothered

[@kiko7247]

I totally agree, if you are vegan because you love and respect animals, than you must respect the dietary needs they have. Cats are strict carnivores, dogs are mostly carnivores. If you have a cat or dog, you gotta feed them what they need for their well-being and health. Being vegan, for a human, is a choice. Cats and dogs can't choose. Before anyone comes at me, I've been vegan for 20+ years.

[@KaneyoriHK]

@@kiko7247 I also feel like those same people who do that would look at me like a monster, I love animals, but cause of complications with allergies, I can't really enjoy plant foods as much as I'd like.

[@annapreble]

Keep spittin dude. Michael Pollan wrote in the Omnivore's Dilemma that humans in the US and other similar countries are so removed from how our food is sourced we just go to the grocery market and pick up a slick plastic package of food. These animals are more in communion with their food (as Pollan would put it) than many viewers here. *edit:* I don't know why I said it that way - I don't know any of these viewers. I guess I meant significant number of us consumers.

[@annapreble]

And people! It is neither healthy NOR ethical to feed your animal companions vegetables. Wut 😮 Edit: I spoke very broadly. I've really only heard veterinarian advice against switching dogs and/or cats to a vegetarian diet. Excuse me 😬

[@shroomyesc]

@@annapreble Well, I'm sure it's healthy and moral if those said animal companions are parrots or rabbits! 😁 But yes, I think nowhere does this detachment show more than the horror some westerners show at the prospect of eating horses. To them, they see a companion animal that works with you. But to me, I didn't grow up around horses in that way instead I grew up eating horse sausage which is really tasty btw. So I've always questioned why cows, pigs and chickens are free game but horses etc. are immoral to eat. If you eat meat you contribute to the killing of cuddly animals and most people really don't come to terms with that.

[@saba347]

​@@annapreble It's healthy to feed dogs some vegetables, such as carrots. However, the cat's diet needs to be carnivorous.

[@annapreble]

@@saba347 @shroomyesc thanks for your thoughtful responses. I'm originally from an island and very few find fish cuddly lol. Even if I don't eat horse my world isn't so small and my beliefs so insecure that I would need to raise tensions. I'm sorry if you've been attacked over such a personal intimate aspect. I wonder when they will figure out arguing isn't as powerful as living by example. 🙌🏼

[@annapreble]

@@saba347 this reminds me of the argument that teeth say a lot: molars are meant to prepare plant matter for digestion, not fangs. I've seen many carrots fed on this channel haha and I hear they like sweet potato too. Maybe Harvey would like the po-ta-toe

[@haze_flame9207]

Man spitting facts. Respect friend

[@chelnahtheegghead]

I appreciate your explanation about the inclusion of the rabbits in that other video, especially since you've said before that your channel is partially about educating people on what it's like owning a wolf-dog. Personally, it was the lack of preparation in both seeing and hearing the dying sounds of the rabbits that affected me. For clarity, I'm no "hippie"--I'm a meat-eater; I know how the sausage is made, but that doesn't mean I want to go to a meat-packaging facility and watch the slaughtering happen myself. It's your channel, I get that you're not going to censor yourself for the sake of a few, etc. It was just hard (again, for me personally, not trying to speak for everyone) watching that video, thinking some funny story was being recounted, and then realizing thirty seconds in that Harvey and Kane were still in the process of eating the bunnies. Edited to add that my having pet rabbits as a kid definitely makes me biased in seeing them as pets rather than "food" animals. Nothing wrong with eating them if you do, but I doubt I ever will (unless I'm stranded in the woods or something ig). TL;DR: Just wanted a warning that they were eating the rabbits on-camera. I thought the beginning of the "killer" video was a re-cap of what'd been going on in your backyard and wasn't prepared for what the video actually showed.

[@hesrah7436]

Pretty reasonable ask.

[@inventgineer]

0:40 - 0:50 he sounds like he's singing a song from the wolf ocarina-singing in Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess 😄.

[@ash719]

lol, the guy without a shirt REALLY needs sunscreen Edit: also, try a tripod for the camera!

[@urielgrey]

It's interesting how predators change and improve their environment. They make a river change course in yellow stone because of how they made the herbivores move! The area around the dens of predators are super healthy and encourages their food source to live there :) It's amazing and I think God did a great job designing the whole thing

[@owenowen212]

Great thumbnail as always

[@Fusilier7]

Remember, homo sapiens are omnivores, we can pick and choose what we wish to devour, canis lupus and canis lupus familiaris are primarily carnivores. Although canis lupus is capable of consuming berries and nuts, it is not their staple, they have evolved to digest flesh and organs, that includes canis lupus familiaris, which can go obese or have nutritional deficiencies, if their dietary needs are not met. I'm sorry to say to the hippies and hipsters, but dogs and wolf hybrids are carnivorous, you cannot change their nature just because you disapprove of their role in nature, by the way, wild rabbits can be vicious, ever seen or read Watership Down? That is perhaps the closest to a rabbit's true nature, rather than the milquetoast fables published to make rabbits gentle and meek, and besides, rabbits can be destructive to all of that vegetation, the vegans are so obsessed with rescuing, in addition, to all of the insects who feed on plants, so do us all a favour - keep your beliefs to yourselves.

[@The_derpmaster]

For all the people giving this guy hate for how he lets them eat rabbits i bet youve only owned pugs or some crap who dont have much of a predator instinct. Do you go into a safari and go 'oh isnt it just awful how those lions eat deer' no i doubt you do but instead you log onto your phone and give this poor dude whos trying to educate us and live his life harassment. If you dont like it skip the video just leave this guy the heck alone.

[@darkthunder301]

let Harvey give himself a dust bath? be really cute if nothing else

[@Facet_5_CUT_8XM]

2 questions: 1. What’s it like owning a wolf dog? 2. Does it have special needs?

[@anomalyfox5186]

I dunno if it’s because he’s a wolfdog but Kane is definitely Special Needs.

[@AtlasBlizzard]

Kane definitely has special needs, like the need to have his face grabbed.

[@the_undead]

Technically wolf dogs don't have special needs, however, try adopting A particularly dramatic husky and if you can't handle that for 4 years then do not get a wolf dog, also you need to walk them no less than 6 mi a day (ideally dramatically longer than that, The KZbinr Siberian derpskis says he takes his Huskies on 10 to 14 mile walks everyday and that's probably what I would aim for, with a wolf dog you'll want to go even longer

[@EnforcerX71]

Also dude, don't try to call out the hypocrisy of Vegetarians and Vegans, it's like talking to a wall.

[@annapreble]

it can be. Let's just say the pretentious factor has poisoned the well so bad that less than 1% would listen to other perspectives. One vegan yelled at me in the back seat of a car to criticize my culture re: sushi. Nothing is off limits, no matter how little the decision to eat veggies has to do with them.

[@shroomyesc]

I doubt 99% of vegetarians/vegans in real life have a problem with carnivore pets eating animals since, well, those pets are pets, not people, and aren't evolved to eat plant based.

[@evermoonn]

i love kane

[@ceyboard4296]

You mentioned the neighbor's dog at the beginning so I was curious, does Kane get along with other dogs?

[@Inventure751]

There's another video with H & K pacing around after some mean teenage neighbors brought their crazy barking dog in front of the fence. Might be the same one

[@womanishthing1994]

He's had multiple dogs he's has good interactions and even friendships with on film, but just like with regular dogs there may be people or animals they dislike for whatever reason. I'm sure with wolves DNA there's more to it than that but I think everyone's known that dog that none of the other dogs seem to like, hackles up just seeing them and such.

[@HammboneBob]

Do dogs vocal cords ever get tired?

[@JaneXemylixa]

Has there been a repeat of that fern study? Or is it Masaru Emoto all over again?

[@the_undead]

I suspect this has been researched a lot more thoroughly in recent times cuz from the description of that study this is not a recent thing that he's talking about

[@pancudowny]

🎵"I've heard the screams of the vegetables...!"🎶 kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zmimm4ibjZh-e9k 😄

[@littlefairygirl161]

Pretty much wolf dogs cause huskies are the closest to wolves so of course they’ll go after rabbits its instinct

[@LuKe-cq9il]

Ayeeee sweet potato gang

[@fn-ix]

Weren’t you the guy who rebuffed the people who tokenized their pet wolfdogs as “wild beasts”, never bothering to properly treat & train them? Alright, training the instinct to hunt out of a wolf altogether while also living in an area where rabbits regularly wander onto your property may well be impossible, but the metacommentary about its ideology & human hypocrisy seems superfluous. If you can’t help it, just let them have their rabbits, it’s not possible to always be morally impeccable, but it’s also not hypocritical to want to (have your pets) cause as little suffering as possible (and no, plants without a central nervous system using rudimentary chemical signalling is not the same as a mammal being conscious of getting eaten alive, but this is veering off into topics above, I suspect, both our heads).

[@LordVader1094]

Yeah unfortunately this guy just seems like an over-thoughtful and contradictory weirdo lol Reminds me a lot of other types on YT that people praise for "just stating facts" even when they're either wrong or needlessly abrasive. I liked when he just had matter of fact wolf videos without all the edgy pseudo psychological nonsense.

[@The_derpmaster]

If you dont want to have an animal like a dog or cat catch prey then dont get one in the first place and I agree with him it is hypocritical 'I dont like how my dog catches small animals' then why the hell did you get one. As someone who's so used to having owned cats it wasn't weird at all to find dead birds an mice at the door it's just nature and if you cant accept that then move on and dont own animals.

[@saba347]

So, everyone, dogs / wolves are technically omnivores, just need more meat than plants. Humans are omnivores, but our digestive tract and health warrant that we eat more plants than other animals. 🪴 Regardless, everyone needs to eat something else (killing ) because we are not making our own chlorophyll. Bears are a lot bigger than canines, but they are omnivores too, excluding pandas of course. 🐼 I fully agree with the other person who said just be responsible and don't let your cats go around killing birds or endangered animals in certain parts of the world -- they already have food at home. 🦜 Don't waste wildlife.

[@saba347]

Obviously, a tripod wouldn't work with those two cute canines, but maybe you can find a headgear camera. 🪖