House of the Dragon S1E03 live Q&A discussion

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@jussts
@jussts 2 жыл бұрын
I loved killing the crab feeder off screen. It's like the show is straight up telling you to look for your series villain elsewhere, it's not this guy, it was never gonna be this guy.
@Conorp77
@Conorp77 2 жыл бұрын
Good take, only thing I was disappointed in is that we didn't see the killing blow, but it was a deliberate choice not to show it.
@TrevanDotCom
@TrevanDotCom 2 жыл бұрын
I get that. But I really wanted to see dark sister at work :)
@Reichsritter
@Reichsritter 2 жыл бұрын
The crab feeder wasn't the villain, I would have appreciated the scene though
@YanzBra
@YanzBra 2 жыл бұрын
He didnt even need to exist, didnt speak, no story, no death. Just a mini boss for the sake of a battle. Poorly done
@Floristini
@Floristini 2 жыл бұрын
@@YanzBra This is a book adaptation, and Craghas Drahar is a character that exists in the books. It's not for the sake of a battle, it's for the sake of the adaptation. As far as I'm aware, the story behind Craghas Crabfeeder is exactly what we got: he was a prince and admiral of the Triarchy that set base on the Stepstones and threatened the trade routes of House Velaryon. He also liked to torture people. Pretty faithful adaptation if you ask me. The Crabfeeder isn't supposed to be a meaningful boss to the overall story, he's there to give more depth to Corlys and Daemon's alliance and storylines. Remember, this is a show about the internal conflicts of the Targaryens, not some random ass Myrish prince.
@kebabkebob7808
@kebabkebob7808 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t care what people say, the scene of the knight getting crushed by the dragon after thinking he was being rescued was hilarious
@jod5783
@jod5783 2 жыл бұрын
It was great
@burnsr92
@burnsr92 2 жыл бұрын
felt like such a Rick and Morty scene lol
@whoreofdragonstone1031
@whoreofdragonstone1031 2 жыл бұрын
YES
@Nitero_
@Nitero_ 2 жыл бұрын
if he hadn't got squished I would have been super disappointed.
@English_MoFo
@English_MoFo 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer witty dialog for humor over Last Jedi type gags. Maybe it's just me.
@nonagrey3422
@nonagrey3422 2 жыл бұрын
Daemon would rather die than be sent aid and I absolutely LOVE that.
@willbeard4835
@willbeard4835 2 жыл бұрын
His reaction to being sent help by his brother was the most realistic little brother thing I've ever seen on tv it made me LOL
@Mrhappytofu97
@Mrhappytofu97 2 жыл бұрын
He's a pathetic, petulant child. The only thing he's proven is that his pride is above anything and everything else.
@nonagrey3422
@nonagrey3422 2 жыл бұрын
@@willbeard4835 LOL yes!!!!
@94Chiko
@94Chiko 2 жыл бұрын
​@@willbeard4835 the poor mailman didnt deserve his temper tantrum :(
@nonagrey3422
@nonagrey3422 2 жыл бұрын
@Batrick Pateman haha yes!
@ShubertReads
@ShubertReads 2 жыл бұрын
"The Pug that was Promised" -my favorite superchat (by Wealth Wolf)
@papapudding
@papapudding 2 жыл бұрын
Timestamp?
@ShubertReads
@ShubertReads 2 жыл бұрын
@@papapudding It was a 4 hour long livestream, how do you expect me to find that one comment?!? ...It was @ 3:39:32 😝
@secularmonk5176
@secularmonk5176 2 жыл бұрын
Here's another timestamp ... 6:45 ... I was perplexed as to why an animal that is HUNTED would be considered the symbol of royalty. Then it dawned on me that (in the Holocene), the stag represents the most meat that one could expect to find in the wilds of Europe ... It is abundance-on-the-hoof, with the added aesthetic of muscularity. A king isn't going to celebrate his bounty by associating it with caged cattle ... no, "catch me if you can"
@secularmonk5176
@secularmonk5176 2 жыл бұрын
Lion for merciless military might; stag for viril prosperity (self-sufficiency)
@eriktatos
@eriktatos 2 жыл бұрын
I’m dead. …The Real Rhaegar
@lanecorbin6572
@lanecorbin6572 2 жыл бұрын
The convo between Jason Lannister and King Viserys was phenomenal. Paddy Constantine is simply amazing. Jason Lannister got scared as hell once Viserys pressed him 🤣 If only he could be that stern with everyone else around him and not be influenced so easily because of his kind soul.
@mattisjouy392
@mattisjouy392 2 жыл бұрын
Take notice that when Viserys started being stern and dominate is when he is drunk, that could foreshadowing of why he drinks so much.
@AnwayPramanik
@AnwayPramanik 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah... You can see glimpses of the Dragon that could have been with Viserys. His tone shift was epic
@Δ-Δ-Δ-Δ
@Δ-Δ-Δ-Δ 2 жыл бұрын
@@AnwayPramanik He just comes across as cranky, though.
@treyhunsucker1138
@treyhunsucker1138 2 жыл бұрын
Had that liquid courage going
@JoshMcB
@JoshMcB 2 жыл бұрын
Paddy Considine is a great chap all round! I asked him a load of questions for a University project a few years ago, and there's no doubt that he's one of the most passionate actors/writers/directors in the UK right now- a true gentleman
@mehukattti
@mehukattti 2 жыл бұрын
Laenor might not be Targaryan, but he roasted his uncle alive with that "What role have you played, uncle? Other than Master of Complaints" 😂😭
@gus9663
@gus9663 2 жыл бұрын
Immediately made me love Laenor lol
@ericadomingos2410
@ericadomingos2410 2 жыл бұрын
He’s half Targaryan because of his mother
@SciFiPhiChiPsi
@SciFiPhiChiPsi 2 жыл бұрын
@@ericadomingos2410 I think OP means he's not "Targaryen" in the sense that he doesn't have the Targaryen name. He does of course have Targaryen blood through Rhaenys (his mother) which is why he can ride Seasmoke and come to help Daemon at the end.
@lochofmceo
@lochofmceo 2 жыл бұрын
He is a Targ that's why he can ride a dragon
@tralpaz2
@tralpaz2 2 жыл бұрын
@@lochofmceo you don’t have to be a targ to ride dragons
@Jedishill680
@Jedishill680 2 жыл бұрын
Viserys had the misfortune of being born a Targaryen, for all of his flaws he is the only Targaryen I would invite to lunch
@michaelpeck1865
@michaelpeck1865 2 жыл бұрын
Jon snow?
@Awesomepeps
@Awesomepeps 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelpeck1865 but he doesn’t know anything
@whoreofdragonstone1031
@whoreofdragonstone1031 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelpeck1865 Snow is culturally and behaviorally Ned’s Son
@Canadish
@Canadish 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Viserys would have been a great tavern owner or Mayor or something, low level power he'd likely balance well, it's the dizzying heights of absolute power that demands a different man.
@Jedishill680
@Jedishill680 2 жыл бұрын
@@Canadish viserys shows the kind of person he is by not bonding with a dragon after his original mount died, he didn’t want the power that came with being a dragon rider. He rode balerion out of obligation not desire
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 2 жыл бұрын
My immediate reaction to Jason Lannister was "dude, Tywin would have hated your guts, you have no finesse whatsoever"
@joe-mama94
@joe-mama94 2 жыл бұрын
I wish he was more good looking 😂 Jamie has set the bar too high lol
@estong2559
@estong2559 2 жыл бұрын
He will be treated like tyrion haha
@dav552
@dav552 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh I think all the characters suffer from this issues things seem so straightforward even the schemes seem to be happening a mere feet away from the intended target idk it seems like characters like LittleFinger will be far and in between in this show
@cba2make1up
@cba2make1up 2 жыл бұрын
I never would've expected to see K&G here lmfao I hope you guys plan to release a documentary about the Dance once the series is over, I've loved how you portrayed the strategy and tactics behind all the fictional battles so far
@raddysaddy4865
@raddysaddy4865 2 жыл бұрын
@@dav552 Well Larys Strong was just introduced and he is quite a lot like Varys and Littlefinger. We might see some schemes with a little more nuisance following his character if Fire and Blood’s anything to go by.
@kiera_rdh6697
@kiera_rdh6697 2 жыл бұрын
People are only upset and shocked by all the long time jumps because they are forgetting that we are watching a long extended prologue to the real story that the show runners are trying to tell, which is the dance of the dragons civil war. If they had started the show right at the beginning of the war we wouldn’t care about anything or understand the back story. I’m glad they’re doing the timeline the way they are.
@xxx-gw9hc
@xxx-gw9hc 2 жыл бұрын
But just imagine they did a 2 season pre dance prologue, with this writing and acting I think they would have killed it… on the other hand I understand why they want to get to the action, it would have been to risky with more politics and less dragons
@peepindis
@peepindis 2 жыл бұрын
It's a small adjustment I think people will eventually come to accept. We were used to so many separate stories unfolding at the same time and in separate parts of the globe in GOT. This world is more focused.
@demian9715
@demian9715 2 жыл бұрын
@@peepindis I wouldn't call it a small adjustment, the more detailed storytelling puts GoT a few Levels over HotD for me
@peepindis
@peepindis 2 жыл бұрын
@@demian9715 considering that show GOT became too bulky for its own good and needed a slap dash and hasty cobbling together of several storylines, I think this may be a mistake learned
@Beatness121
@Beatness121 2 жыл бұрын
I love the time-jumps honestly. It just makes sense for a time of relative peace and stability in the realm, compared to GoT where it seemed like huge historical events and power shifts happened every other day.
@DatBoiChris420
@DatBoiChris420 2 жыл бұрын
Paddy Considine and Matt Smith are just acting their hearts out, Paddy is giving Viserys soo much depth and character it's fantastic, Matt Smith steals every scene he's is he's feared and loved at the same time, He wants his family to have all the power
@sammerry7706
@sammerry7706 2 жыл бұрын
Something to note, smith only had one line in this episode! The guy has incredible presence 👏 good example of show dont tell i guess
@panamakira
@panamakira 2 жыл бұрын
Yep 100%! Matt Smith is so good as Daemon.
@chosenwizdomfootball
@chosenwizdomfootball 2 жыл бұрын
White people creaming themselves over mediocre white actors.
@olly123451
@olly123451 2 жыл бұрын
Lionel Strong continuing to be the realest person in the room.
@JLchevz
@JLchevz 2 жыл бұрын
for sure
@carmen7730
@carmen7730 2 жыл бұрын
he’s based
@hegantank6495
@hegantank6495 2 жыл бұрын
lyonel strong is so based
@ragetemplar5104
@ragetemplar5104 2 жыл бұрын
He must be thinking: why am i surrounded by morons?
@SirClerihew
@SirClerihew 2 жыл бұрын
Favorite member of the small council
@ubersheep6517
@ubersheep6517 2 жыл бұрын
I work as a sub at a middleschool, and some of those kids can go from looking like little children to 30 and paying taxes in a span of 3 years, so laenors rapid aging is not too out of place here. Sometimes puberty can hit like a truck.
@Kingedwardiii2003
@Kingedwardiii2003 2 жыл бұрын
You should show HOTD to your students next time you substitute. That would be a good sex ed course with the C-Section.
@jessharkness5534
@jessharkness5534 2 жыл бұрын
i was thinking the same thing! leanor and laena are twins, and we know laena was 12 last episode. it's been 3 years, so we can assume they are 15-16 now. i do think laenor looks older than 15-16 but the dramatic jump in his appearance isn't too far off base.
@jayclearmen411
@jayclearmen411 2 жыл бұрын
Yup! I’ve seen guys jump from 4-6 inches within a single summer no BS! I myself didn’t grow any facial hair till way later BUT My Voice got deep Asf when i was 12 almost overnight one day it was hoarse then next morning very raspy
@Marjoss1
@Marjoss1 2 жыл бұрын
Great point! I also think actively participating in a war for 3 years would age anyone pretty quickly as well.
@greywolf7577
@greywolf7577 2 жыл бұрын
I've subbed for everything from kindergarten to 12th grade and I think Middle Schoolers are the hardest to handle because they have the attention span of Elementary students with the bodies of High School students.
@babykitsune4789
@babykitsune4789 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the fact that Alt answered the repeated questions and repeated explanations of theories for anyone who missed it, I imagine it can get annoying and I feel like other people would just skip past it. Idk just something I noticed.
@bram_412
@bram_412 2 жыл бұрын
Blew my mind with that Sansa quote about turning wishes into dreams to make them more impressive and prophetic. Wonder how many Targaryens did that? Wonder if this whole Long Night prophecy was actually that?
@AltShiftX
@AltShiftX 2 жыл бұрын
Like Aegon having a dream of white walkers, and conflating that with his wish to rule Westeros..
@BIastwave.
@BIastwave. 2 жыл бұрын
@@AltShiftX This level of speculation and mystery surrounding an already expansive and complex story is a testament to how good of a writer GRRM really is.
@nestaismail9189
@nestaismail9189 3 ай бұрын
You make no sense. If the Long night was just a "wish" told as a "dream" then how did it come to pass ?
@maggiecramer8154
@maggiecramer8154 24 күн бұрын
​@@nestaismail9189he dreamed of the white walkers, then used that to judge his wish to me kinh
@Etticos.
@Etticos. 2 жыл бұрын
How do you have every and any image of every topic imaginable ready to go at all times. It’s impressive.
@gus9663
@gus9663 2 жыл бұрын
Probably has access to a review copy
@Etticos.
@Etticos. 2 жыл бұрын
@@gus9663 yeah but he kept pulling stuff up not directly relevant to the episode. It was wild.
@noizW
@noizW 2 жыл бұрын
I think he once introduced a new software which works like the search function of iOS (ai recognizes the scene)
@thehoopman88
@thehoopman88 2 жыл бұрын
He has a software program and everything has a tag that he types in when someone mentions anything from whole GoT universe ... he's very meticulous with his videos .. the best KZbinr 👌
@josephbrennan370
@josephbrennan370 2 жыл бұрын
@@noizW when did he say this?
@bearlyhardley
@bearlyhardley 2 жыл бұрын
I actually loved the moment when Daemon squished his knight, as awful as that sounds. It immediately sets the tone for this conflict overall and tells you that Daemon is not here to save anyone. He’s only here for blood.
@cba2make1up
@cba2make1up 2 жыл бұрын
They make it look like Daemon flew in there as the hero that will avenge his men, then the squish happens and we realize oh right he doesn't give a shit, he's just there to burn stuff
@rattiegirl5
@rattiegirl5 2 жыл бұрын
@@cba2make1up I assumed Daemon did not see or hear the knight when he landed on him. The whole landing on the knight shows that the knight is small compared to the whole war. I mean the knight looks like an ant from 3,000 feet up. He was collateral damage. Kind of like a passenger jet landing in the middle of busy downtown NYC and the wheel touching down over a person.
@jesse1086
@jesse1086 2 жыл бұрын
It came off to me funny yes but also as a mercy. The man was literally in the middle of being eaten alive. A nice clean death by dragon stomp was much better. Unless someone was expecting Daemon to jump down off the dragon and untie him personally lol the dude was about to be a meal. If I were him I would have appreciated the quick death.
@nestaismail9189
@nestaismail9189 3 ай бұрын
You clearly a teenager with an iq of -000.01 and an attention span of a lizard. 😂 I'm not saying Daemon is a Saint bt he def ddnt see the knight ,you 120% misinterpreted the plot.
@kyekimler
@kyekimler 2 жыл бұрын
The whole time watching this episode I was just going "fuck yeah!" to every little thing. "Breakbones! Clubfoot! The Hooded Hand! Laenor! Crabs! SEASMOKE! FUCK YEAH!" Seriously though, I find myself getting a little bit emotional with this show. To be so heavily invested in the original series only to have it turn to utter shit was incredibly disappointing, it just feels so good to have GoT material that I can be excited about again after years and years of wanting :)
@kash.e.w.6937
@kash.e.w.6937 2 жыл бұрын
🍻to the last part especially
@chungusdisciple9917
@chungusdisciple9917 2 жыл бұрын
i've got mixed feelings. On one hand i'm glad grrm is helping this show be great. On the other, I just want him to finish asoiaf like goddamn it george
@unstoppableExodia
@unstoppableExodia 2 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see a parody of America, FUCK YEAH!!! Set to Westeros battle scenes and with lyrics changed to reflect what’s on screen
@mrlos6646
@mrlos6646 2 жыл бұрын
“I saw things I know and I clapped”
@kevincarter2020
@kevincarter2020 2 жыл бұрын
Robert Baratheon killed by a boar, Rhaenyra Targaryen tore that shit up
@FieryWACO
@FieryWACO 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think Laenor saved Daemon...I think that was the plan all along to draw Craghas out.
@WinterMan.
@WinterMan. 2 жыл бұрын
me too, it looked like it was planned bcoz the whole army is there on time.
@Darkstar_Dayne
@Darkstar_Dayne 2 жыл бұрын
I thought that was obvious as Daemon was looking towards the sky again and again
@markhamstra1083
@markhamstra1083 2 жыл бұрын
Not just the plan, but the plan that Laenor argued for.
@juenige
@juenige 2 жыл бұрын
Regardless, as part of the plan Laenor did save Daemon. But I understand it was all planned, as Daemon frequently looked up to the sky.
@altxogershavelayers5166
@altxogershavelayers5166 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah they literally say that a mad man needs to drag them out so they can killed them with dragons, cuz if they send just the dragons they would go into cover before anything is done. And I see ppl all around saying that it is just out of nowhere plot armour, like did ya even see the same show?
@AlexAustralis
@AlexAustralis 2 жыл бұрын
To the question the chatter raised about why Caraxes wasn't in that final battle, I would assume that it could have easily been there, had they wanted it, however without Daemon riding and directing it personally, it's likely that it could/would have caused a significant amount of damage to the Velaryon forces too. Whereas just having Seasmoke flying around and burning shit in a much more precise manner was a lot more effective. Also, had Caraxes been there, I doubt it would have had the restraint to let the events develop to the point where the Crabfeeder sent out all/the majority of his boys, and would have attacked much sooner to protect Daemon, but also making it so the Crabby bois would have stuck in their caves
@Floristini
@Floristini 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the way I interpreted it, over the 3 years the war has been going on, Craghas would logically know at this point that Caraxes answers to Daemon. So when he saw Daemon coming forward to "surrender", he was skeptical, and sent only a few men at a time, while looking up to search for Caraxes. When he saw that Daemon had fallen and was now extremely vulnerable, and still Caraxes hadn't shown up, he correctly assumed he just wasn't going to show up at all, and sent his men forward to trap Daemon and ensure he died there, as that would be a gigantic victory for him. And then, of course, Laenor and Seasmoke ruined his day.
@DrGanjameister
@DrGanjameister 2 жыл бұрын
He's in the battle. He roasts the archers on the ridge, riderless.
@viggomartinsson
@viggomartinsson 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrGanjameister wasn’t that seasmoke?
@Darkstar_Dayne
@Darkstar_Dayne 2 жыл бұрын
​@@DrGanjameister That was Seasmoke
@chrisblossbogarin56
@chrisblossbogarin56 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrGanjameister that’s was laenor who was riding seasmoke.
@cba2make1up
@cba2make1up 2 жыл бұрын
Every single interaction with Viserys this episode was absolutely phenomenal. I loved how no matter how much pressure there was on him to make Aegon his heir, he was steadfast in his support for Rhaenyra and stood by his decision of having named her his heir already, in little details like never actually speaking of Aegon as his heir, mentioning that Rhaenyra's husband would be "king consort", then ultimately his conversation with her in the council room assuring her that she won't be replaced. And of course how he put Jason Lannister in his place and made him sh*t himself. Beside that the next highlight of the episode was definitely Daemon and his suicide rush, cutting down two dozen men under arrow fire. People who say it was unrealistic can hate as much as they want but all I know is that the man is an accomplished warrior who wields Dark Sister, and he ran in there not intending to come out alive all so that Viserys doesn't steal his glory with the backup he sent. And for me personally it's impossible not to love a badass warrior prince. Oh and Lyonel Strong is an absolute king who must be protected at all costs
@HaroldDipp
@HaroldDipp 2 жыл бұрын
Daemon surviving the suicide mission was bad writing, pure and simple. He didn't do it in a clever manner. The wall of arrows only connects when Daemon is near cover? The men only attack him one at a time? Daemon didnt survive because of any real character traits or clever tactics. He survived because he is the main driver of the plot, and so can't die in the 3rd episode. Horrible battle scene. Goes completely against what made early GOT great.
@alicedeligny9240
@alicedeligny9240 2 жыл бұрын
@@HaroldDipp Yeah, he survived kind of by chance - but then this happens. Sometimes people survive because they're lucky. This isn't really bad writing, especially since at some point he kinda seemed f*cked, hurt by two arrows and surrounded.
@greywolf7577
@greywolf7577 2 жыл бұрын
Why is Viserys acting like he can't change the heir? Heirs change all the time as people are born and die. If Viserys's son hadn't died in episode one, he would have become the heir even though he already had an older daughter. So why do these extra three and a half years matter? If he was going to grant his last son the chance to be heir to the throne, he should grant his current son the same right.
@alicedeligny9240
@alicedeligny9240 2 жыл бұрын
@@greywolf7577 Well Viserys made the decision to name Rhaenyra heir partly in memory of his dead wife, and he truly cares about his daughter. That's why he's uneasy about giving to Aegon what is now hers.
@grimmrgoodbar6401
@grimmrgoodbar6401 2 жыл бұрын
@@HaroldDipp you guys are absolute cry babies
@buahahaevillaugh1113
@buahahaevillaugh1113 2 жыл бұрын
Other than Viserys losing his fingers, it was also visible that Crabfeeder's Greyscale had been getting worse, causing him to even lose his eye.
@miriamjaymes
@miriamjaymes 2 жыл бұрын
hopefully it progresses but it is not contagious! otherwise, rip Daemon
@neloangelo7297
@neloangelo7297 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, didnt daemon touched him by dragging him out of the cave?
@buahahaevillaugh1113
@buahahaevillaugh1113 2 жыл бұрын
When you play the game of plot armour, you win or you fall in one of your own plot holes and die. It is known. I really, really hope they handle this somehow and not just use a "Daemon kinda forgot" card. I can't handle that kind of trauma.
@thenobletaco4232
@thenobletaco4232 2 жыл бұрын
@@neloangelo7297 right, like no gloves or anything?
@sh3tpostsgamertime204
@sh3tpostsgamertime204 2 жыл бұрын
@@neloangelo7297 targaryuns cant get greyscale duhhh
@bluestone9726
@bluestone9726 2 жыл бұрын
The Mountain really did Ser Hugh of the Vale a favor by beating him so hard he travelled back in time and became not one, but two Lannisters.
@greywolf7577
@greywolf7577 2 жыл бұрын
Tommen's actor also played another character. I know Game of Thrones has a lot of actors and I do like the Jason Lannister actor, but can they really not find enough actors to get a new one for each role?
@theman44ful
@theman44ful 2 жыл бұрын
@@greywolf7577 might be that they just really like the actor and know they work well with the team
@bluestone9726
@bluestone9726 2 жыл бұрын
@@greywolf7577 They liked killing Tommen's actor so much they just had to do it twice.
@legzdiamond2356
@legzdiamond2356 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. He beat him into the middle of last century. Horrifying.
@burnsr92
@burnsr92 2 жыл бұрын
been following for years and so happy to see more regular and fresh content. feels like we got a good one with HoTD
@markmikolay9019
@markmikolay9019 2 жыл бұрын
For me, the scene with Viserys killing the stag gave the impression that it was representing himself. Caught in a snare of power, unable to move in any direction, helpless and strugging. It was almost like giving the killing blow to himself, especially with the very unsettling music in the background and the focus on Vysery's face and expressions.
@yamanalghanem7147
@yamanalghanem7147 2 жыл бұрын
Daemon being angry that help is coming gave me vegeta vibes. I love that moment!!!
@TrevanDotCom
@TrevanDotCom 2 жыл бұрын
Did everyone see that Viserys only has 3 fingers on his left hand now? It was the scene where Alicent tried consoling him back in kings landing after the hunt.
@scrotiemcboogerballs2133
@scrotiemcboogerballs2133 2 жыл бұрын
Wow I didn't notice that. Thanks for pointing this out you got an eye for detail
@lox_07
@lox_07 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, interesting detail. Thanks
@srb2591
@srb2591 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah in the last episode they where discussing having to remove the 2 fingers to save the hand. Happens a little different in the book but it's a accurate detail
@letoatreides5165
@letoatreides5165 2 жыл бұрын
@@srb2591 nah that's the thing: it was one Finger before, now there's already anozher one
@eyeballpaul700
@eyeballpaul700 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I saw that, the stubs don't look too healthy
@shr00m7
@shr00m7 2 жыл бұрын
It's always interesting to me that when we talk about old Valyria and the Targs it's brought up they are one of the "lesser houses" but there were only 40 Dragon Riding families- and everyone else was less than that. So even if they were the 40th most powerful, they're still one of the most powerful families on the planet.
@littleoldmanboy
@littleoldmanboy Жыл бұрын
“only” 40 dragon rider houses
@spearshake4771
@spearshake4771 2 жыл бұрын
The scene where Rhaenyra was looking at the white Hart made me cry. It was such an emotional scene and I don't know why but any scenes involving character interactions with majestic animals make me tear up. Like Otto was going on the whole time about how this White Hart was a sign that Aegon was meant to be king and yet it appeared to Rhaenyra in some prophetic way.
@spearshake4771
@spearshake4771 2 жыл бұрын
@@Δ-Δ-Δ-Δ Oh no I know I read the books. I just felt that they did this scene so well. It still basically predicts that it will be her line that will sit the Iron Throne.
@Darkstar_Dayne
@Darkstar_Dayne 2 жыл бұрын
​@@spearshake4771 And it's all good writing, nothing like this was mentioned in Fire & Blood. I know the majority of ideas must be coming from George himself but still it's so refreshing to see the whole fantasy side being explored here
@spearshake4771
@spearshake4771 2 жыл бұрын
@@Darkstar_Dayne exactly. I feel if George was still involved with GoT and Dan and David were replaced we would have had a better paced ending
@spearshake4771
@spearshake4771 2 жыл бұрын
@@Darkstar_Dayne its also cool getting to view all of this from a "fly on the wall" perspective because after all Fire and Blood is a subjective account/history book relying on very vague and controversial sources and getting to compare the book and show is quite cool
@scrotiemcboogerballs2133
@scrotiemcboogerballs2133 2 жыл бұрын
@@spearshake4771 that's cool, so there's still new content for book readers then
@ChrisLamia
@ChrisLamia 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think the Laenor looking much older thing while Alicent/Rhaenyra look the same doesn’t make sense. Laenor’s pre and post puberty which can make a massive difference whereas the girls had already done most of their growing. I also think Alicent in particular did look more mature
@AVerySillySausage
@AVerySillySausage 2 жыл бұрын
They've done something with the hair and makeup to make the aging work.
@ChrisLamia
@ChrisLamia 2 жыл бұрын
@@AVerySillySausage Thoughts on Slasher to FaZe?
@AVerySillySausage
@AVerySillySausage 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisLamia He got blessed but will probably make the best of it.
@sayaalicious9146
@sayaalicious9146 2 жыл бұрын
Year but like only 2 years and a few months have passend 💀
@glencoco4444
@glencoco4444 2 жыл бұрын
@@sayaalicious9146 yes but 2-3 years can make a big difference while you’re a teen. A 12 year old boy looks a lot different than a 15 year old boy, right?
@krios739
@krios739 2 жыл бұрын
On the subject of comparison to Robert and Viserys' royal hunts, while the former definitely was limited by budget, I can still completely see Robert just wanting to grab a spear and trudge off on his own to go kill something and not wanting to deal with the fuss. It's almost an inverse of Viserys who wanted to just enjoy the 'fuss' but kept getting sidelined by politics the entire time.
@thejava.witchiswhispering
@thejava.witchiswhispering 2 жыл бұрын
I like that. If you remember King Robert and Ned's trip from winterfell to Kings landing, Robert says something along the lines of "Gods! This is country! I have half a mind to leave em all behind and keep going," and I think that kind of supports what you're saying about Robert's character. The man was a warrior, he was never meant to be a king.
@quelthela4340
@quelthela4340 2 жыл бұрын
I think when you feed your prisoners alive to the crabs then you lose the "fair" war.
@user-yp7ke4et7o
@user-yp7ke4et7o 2 жыл бұрын
Good point kid
@concept5631
@concept5631 2 жыл бұрын
Fuck why didn't I think of that.
@MondeSerenaWilliams
@MondeSerenaWilliams 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but, for an honorable person, what their enemies did shouldn't affect their morals.
@concept5631
@concept5631 2 жыл бұрын
@@MondeSerenaWilliams Daemon is many things. Honor is not one of them.
@Gadget-Walkmen
@Gadget-Walkmen 2 жыл бұрын
basically yeah.
@brettd2308
@brettd2308 2 жыл бұрын
1:48:00 The "King of the Rhoynar" thing is straight from the books. Aegon the Conqueror takes that title upon his conquest, even though he fails to conquer Dorne. Subsequent Targaryen kings continued to claim Dorne as theirs, even though it was clearly independent. Definitely a case of disputed claims and trying to just say a thing until you can make it real.
@georgewright3949
@georgewright3949 2 жыл бұрын
English King's claimed to be Lord of Ireland and King of France long before they controlled any large swathe of Ireland and long after they'd been banished from most of France so I guess its borrowed from that
@dylanchouinard6141
@dylanchouinard6141 2 жыл бұрын
@@georgewright3949 yeah, I was gonna say every king until George III held the title ‘King of France’ regardless of how much French territory they held
@redrenegade13
@redrenegade13 2 жыл бұрын
China's claim on Taiwan today, completely laughable wishful thinking.
@yetipotato8567
@yetipotato8567 2 жыл бұрын
Didnt british royals at some time also have the name "King/protector of Jerusalem" some time after crusader kingdom fell
@georgewright3949
@georgewright3949 2 жыл бұрын
@@yetipotato8567 sounds plausible unsure how true it is
@kiera_rdh6697
@kiera_rdh6697 2 жыл бұрын
Notice that Matt Smith was second on the bill for this episode but he didn’t say a SINGLE WORD? Shows how Daemon is not just a shit talking trouble maker rich boy but a true force to be reckoned with, he killed the crab feeder without a word. Also Smith’s wordless acting was something to behold.
@nursetobee.
@nursetobee. 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit he was such a big presents that i didn't even notice that.
@kiera_rdh6697
@kiera_rdh6697 2 жыл бұрын
@@nursetobee. My mistake, he did actually have a line in the first scene after Caraxes lands on the guy, Daemon stalks around on caraxes saying “where are you” looking for the crabfeeder. BUT STILL the whole arc later on with getting the letter and waving the white flag and killing the crabfeeder, THAT was all wordless.
@greywolf7577
@greywolf7577 2 жыл бұрын
While I liked Matt Smith's portrayal of Daemon in this episode, I think he may have been second on the bill due to the fame of the actor rather than the importance of the character in this episode.
@littleoldmanboy
@littleoldmanboy Жыл бұрын
@@greywolf7577 That’s not how opening credits works
@yellow5218
@yellow5218 2 жыл бұрын
It must be really rewarding to be a writer or just anyone on this series, coming up with all these really smart allegories and metaphors and then have KZbinrs like you pick up on all of them so they don't go unnoticed. :)
@blackeyedlily
@blackeyedlily 2 жыл бұрын
I wanted to expand on your mention about the appearance of the Hightowers in the books. There is Jorah’s Hightower wife, who he says looked quite a bit like Daenerys. And then there is the mother of Loras and Margaery Tyrell, Alerie Hightower. She is described as having silver hair and it doesn’t seem to be due to age. So it does seem that there are members of the family that are described as having features similar to the Targaryen, just like House Dayne.
@eddieharding6788
@eddieharding6788 2 жыл бұрын
I think this is because those families are all descendants of the Great empire of the dawn, a pre long night society in Essos that we get very little information on. These were the original dragonriders and the builders of Asshai. In the first book Daenerys had a dream/vision of some dudes with flaming swords and fancy coloured eyes and I think silver hair but I can't remember. They could be the emperors of the Great empire of the dawn, her ancestors. This is why these ancient houses are so powerful, the Dayne's have the sword Dawn, which has a lot of parralels/could be the ancient sword lightbringer, a GEOTD Mythical weapon. The Hightower's have old town, which has a structure (I can't remember which one) made of the same oily black rock seen in Asshai. And of course the Targaryens have the blood of the dragon. These three families have these common traits like hair colour and fancy eyes because they have ancient ties to an old and mostly forgotten people. Edit: damn this was all in the video I just got to this point lol.
@Sapphonouveau
@Sapphonouveau 2 жыл бұрын
Here’s a thought - what if Viserys’ reluctance came from Balerion, not in spite of being able to ride the dragon or due to fear of him, or being unable to control the dragon? Dragons do have intelligence and the bond might work in both directions. An old tired dragon from another world might send the mentality of a vigorous but still empathetic young man into interesting places.
@rebeccamadsen4509
@rebeccamadsen4509 2 жыл бұрын
I think the dragon landing on the velaryon knight also symbolizes that dragons are powerful in times of war but just as destructive
@BrettMammel
@BrettMammel 2 жыл бұрын
Daemon’s mad dash across the battlefield reminded me of Speirs in Band of Brothers sprinting across that town while the rest watch in amazement.
@magister343
@magister343 2 жыл бұрын
Countershading evolved frequently to counter the effects of natural shadows. Sunlight falling on the top of an animal makes its top look brighter and the shadow it casts makes the bottom look darker. Countershading mitigates this effect, reducing the contrast so that the animal becomes less easily visible to predators or prey.
@zblackcapricorn
@zblackcapricorn 2 жыл бұрын
I hate when people compare Otto to Tywin. They are two completely different characters with different approaches to politics. Tywin is much more brutal and machiavellian where he uses fear and brutality to gain power. You see this in the war in the riverlands or the sacking of kings landing. Otto on the other hand is much more manipulative trying to scheme his way to the top. Otto is more similar to littlefinger than Tywin, but even that comparison has issues. I think people compare Tywin and Otto cause they are both hand of the king, they both control their king and they are both played by actors who can portray powerful older men.
@dastellarnapster1652
@dastellarnapster1652 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@poenpotzu2865
@poenpotzu2865 2 жыл бұрын
@Immortal Science of Hauntology he was still a schemer; arranging the red wedding, setting up marriage proposals, etc
@greywolf7577
@greywolf7577 2 жыл бұрын
I, on the other hand, hate when people compare Otto to Littlefinger. Otto is a good politician who schemes, but all of his plots are pretty straight forward (get his relatives on the throne, win some policy debate). That is nothing compared with Littlefinger who is able to control events from afar and kill kings with ease if he gets the fancy. Otto is a good politician. Littlefinger is a genius one.
@zblackcapricorn
@zblackcapricorn 2 жыл бұрын
@@greywolf7577I mentioned that comparing him to littlefinger is problematic as well. They have completely different motivations. I think during an interview Matt Smith said that people will always compare and contrast the characters and archetypes of got with hotd. Sadly there's not much you can do about it.
@madmaxx4793
@madmaxx4793 2 жыл бұрын
The only reason Tywin didn’t have to move the way Otto did is because he was first born. He didn’t have to snake his way to the top.
@amezzeray2
@amezzeray2 2 жыл бұрын
Describing the Hart as a "shiny pokemon" is the very content that keeps me here lol And I only discovered this place a few weeks ago.
@topgun2580
@topgun2580 2 жыл бұрын
Every time I hear someone mention the Jon Snow TV show I start laughing. What a terrible idea.
@Δ-Δ-Δ-Δ
@Δ-Δ-Δ-Δ 2 жыл бұрын
I know, right?
@Waakala
@Waakala 2 жыл бұрын
the jon snow tv show were those final seasons of got that we never got
@WinterMan.
@WinterMan. 2 жыл бұрын
Im looking forward to it actually lol its gonna be a mini series so why not give it a go.
@Darkstar_Dayne
@Darkstar_Dayne 2 жыл бұрын
It would be another Rings Of Power as they have no source material
@Δ-Δ-Δ-Δ
@Δ-Δ-Δ-Δ 2 жыл бұрын
@@Darkstar_Dayne Agreed.
@deadgum11
@deadgum11 2 жыл бұрын
Is nobody gunna mention how Daemon lifted his arm when arrows were getting fired and Caraxes lifted his wing like Daemon had some mind control shit going on?
@cba2make1up
@cba2make1up 2 жыл бұрын
Also when Daemon got hit and Caraxes "squealed" (doesn't feel right to say he roared there) That immediately got me thinking that when they say that Targaryens "bond" with their dragons, they literally mean it.
@user-yp7ke4et7o
@user-yp7ke4et7o 2 жыл бұрын
@@cba2make1up targaryens are good people
@Vangaurd_tiger
@Vangaurd_tiger 2 жыл бұрын
The bloodmages did some shit with dragons and valyerians.
@ousmanjallow7866
@ousmanjallow7866 2 жыл бұрын
Yep
@LukeCage1015
@LukeCage1015 2 жыл бұрын
Daemon walking out with the Crabfeeder cut in half was so badass
@scotterlendson4103
@scotterlendson4103 2 жыл бұрын
Paddy Considine’s performance in this episode was off the charts
@yusufdurmus1557
@yusufdurmus1557 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the image of Viserys killing the stag (representing the Baratheons) with the Lannister spear. I thought that was a pretty cool foreshadowing to how the Lannisters will overthrow the Baratheons in Game of Thrones.
@storminmormn6283
@storminmormn6283 2 жыл бұрын
This show has been amazing so far. The huge budget has made every scene actually so much better than some of the GoT stuff and the writing has been just as good. The actors have been killing it in their roles and have really outdone themselves.
@Beatness121
@Beatness121 2 жыл бұрын
@Senso What CGI do you think looks bad? The only part which jumped out at me was the funeral in episode 1, beyond that I think it's been fairly good.
@storminmormn6283
@storminmormn6283 2 жыл бұрын
@@Beatness121 I think the dragons have been pretty great so far and much better than the GoT series. The white deer was pretty solid as well.
@xakashi12123
@xakashi12123 2 жыл бұрын
@Senso Yeah I have to agree that battle felt disappointing to me. There was 0 sense of danger for the characters. I've been thoroughly enjoying the show but this battle was not impressive. Completely bereft of tension IMO and you really need that in action scenes. Hopefully the action later down the line is better.
@thomaslao9832
@thomaslao9832 2 жыл бұрын
exaggeration is a nice drug aint it? this show does not look better than "some" GoT stuff. its a step below GoT. big budget doesnt make your show look or feel better. GoT had a low budget before the battle of black water but it made up for the lack of on screen fights by having interesting characters verbally clash with each other. behind all of Little Finger's conversations are clues about who killed Jon Arynn. we also got characters discussing ancient histories of other mysterious characters like Gregor Clegane. none of that is in HoTD. the pacing for HoTD is also a drag considering we are stuck listening to political expositions for 1 hour instead of natural conversations/schemes we should be keeping an ear out for and some of the actors need better direction or retakes as you can hear their struggles in keeping an accent. Matt Smith included. it aint easy to act but the directors should have a sharper eye for these problems. also the "time skips" are so invisible that it takes away any character growth we are suppose to witness. how are we suppose to know Daemon has been fighting Mr. Krabs and his Bikini Bottoms army for 3 years? i dont see any battle scars, facial wrinkles, some sort of stressed out emotion. we do see Rhaenrys go ape shit on that wild boar and we should have seen Daemon do the same to Prince Drahar. also the dragon's fire breath looks like some unfinished transparent CGI rendering. in GoT, you felt the fire of the adult dragons cook their victims because there would be a detailed explosive burst of heat before the BBQ-ing sets in.
@cleansingserum
@cleansingserum 2 жыл бұрын
really impressed with hotD so far. love this channel
@Stanzaawashere
@Stanzaawashere 2 жыл бұрын
I like that they showed viserys' hairline receding and how they ever so slightly changed his wig to a flatter, thinner one
@yetipotato8567
@yetipotato8567 2 жыл бұрын
Yea I also noticed that. Truly shows that Viserys is getting older. Maybe he is even aging faster with the stress of the position and prolly not that healthy lifestyle.
@sh3tpostsgamertime204
@sh3tpostsgamertime204 2 жыл бұрын
@@yetipotato8567 slowly drinking more like every king and queen.
@bankinus7550
@bankinus7550 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone who has played crusader kings knows that Viserys problem with Aegon's and Rhaenyras age difference is not so much that it is "gross", but that it leaves them with a terribly tight window of producing heirs. He could end his entire line with one single dubious marriage arrangement here. And unfair as biology may be in this regard a young woman with an old husband and an old woman with a young husband are simply not the same for that purpose.
@yetipotato8567
@yetipotato8567 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking after I guickly did the math. Rhenyra would be early 30s when baby Aegon comes of age. I have seen that marriage in the game and rarely that would produce any children.
@bonafide4874
@bonafide4874 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same! You could get away with it if the genders were reversed but not in this case.
@dnacat5062
@dnacat5062 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Like, we know as readers that Rhaenyra seems to be fairly fertile (that felt gross to say, but bare with me), but Viserys doesn't know that. More importantly, Aegon doesn't know that. He'd probably hate Viserys for giving him a, like, ten year window to crank out kids, especially considering all the stuff with Aemma.
@yetipotato8567
@yetipotato8567 2 жыл бұрын
@@dnacat5062 Was Rheonyra specially fertile or was THE SEED STRONG lol
@thejava.witchiswhispering
@thejava.witchiswhispering 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if maybe the Hightowers suggested the marriage between Aegon and Rhaenyra so that if something "unforseen and tragic" happened to her, the hypothetical King Aegon could remarry, and the hightower line would have an even more advantageous position in politics/ the line of succession.
@murtrahnosemaj4961
@murtrahnosemaj4961 2 жыл бұрын
I know the Lannister Twins as Torstien, Ragnar's buddy in Vikings. He is great in that. I did not realize he was Sir Hugh of the Vale until watching this..
@kevinmoran3508
@kevinmoran3508 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the trio of parallels between the three "hunts" this episode. 1 - The King cleanly slays the majestic beast that was held down for him 2 - The Princess finishes off the wounded large animal (but less than a stag) and gets a bit bloody 3 - The Prince bloodily slays a crab - arguably the only one that actually had to fight for their kill.
@ImpulsesOG
@ImpulsesOG 2 жыл бұрын
I think the king sloppily kills the Hart. It seemed to be a difficult thing for him both emotionally and physically
@Canadish
@Canadish 2 жыл бұрын
01:33:00 on the 'Targs don't get sick' issue, I suspect its linked to the concept of the 'true dragons' vs normal Targs. Its like the Targs have latent super powers (dragon riding, sickness immunity, fire immunity in the show etc) but it only comes to the surface for certain family members, if 'the dragon wakes' etc. Id guess it's also linked to the Valyrian blood magic/genetic experiments.
@olenickel6013
@olenickel6013 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't there a, I think it was Preston Jacobs, video about how it might be X-chromosomal? And the math checked out? It also seemed like something GRRM would do. Take a romantic fantasy concept ("royal blood") and then go "this, but realistic and with all the shitty, ugly implications it would actually have" like incest and superstitious medieval people trying all kinds of magic tricks to summon their abilities. And the idea of making it x-chromosomal and then having that play out in a patriarchal society with no idea of genetics is just so juicy it seems in character for George.
@ssotkow
@ssotkow 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for filtering out the spoiler supercats as well. I'm really digging this series thus far. Would hate to be spoiled. Much appreciated!
@GoldnDusty
@GoldnDusty 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Balerion was ancient by the time Viserys rode him. It's explained in Fire and Blood that Viserys mounting him was a surprise, but the old dragon was so slow and sluggish by the time he was chosen, that Viserys himself commented that he didn't think the Black Dread had the strength to fly him to Dragonstone. He died not long afterwards, so Viserys selected his dragon at 16, and the dragon died within the year. Perhaps his indecisiveness starts here?
@OuroMorpheus
@OuroMorpheus 2 жыл бұрын
Great discussion, love the video, and thank you for not spoiling things while still comparing the show and book. 100% will watch your next one!
@SandyCheeks1896
@SandyCheeks1896 2 жыл бұрын
1:12:13 They don’t just stay in the cave because it’s WORTH risking taking Daemon, he’s a huge prize At the same time, they don’t want to send all of their men out because they would lose all of their men in one dragon strafe (which is what ultimately happens and what Daemon intends to happen) So the middle solution is to send out a few at a time, enough to hopefully overpower and capture daemon but no enough to risk all of your forces, but daemon’s putting up a fight lures them all out. Pretty compelling sequence and writing imo
@beautifulcarpetdiagram
@beautifulcarpetdiagram 2 жыл бұрын
Otto is playing the game "how young can I marry someone"
@swiftfated
@swiftfated 2 жыл бұрын
I thought he was going to say "me" lol. The grandson makes more sense though.
@artwithlaur
@artwithlaur 2 жыл бұрын
@@swiftfated same I actually laughed when I thought about him saying that and when he said aegon I laughed even more
@ssotkow
@ssotkow 2 жыл бұрын
13:00 It was also comical the "exposition" guy was rewarded with crabs thrown onto his body so nonchalantly by the Crabfeeder, and was later squashed by Daemon's dragon.... perhaps a subtle metaphor for how the rulers in this world don't really care for the People they rule over or soldiers they command, but wage wars only to safeguard own legacy/legitimacy.
@dailyalicewonder
@dailyalicewonder 2 жыл бұрын
Finally got the time to watch this, I felt a little frustrated with Viserys but at the same time really sorry for him this episode, mans was just straight up not having a good time, could barely even relax lmao. But omg Seasmoke! Was soo surprised to see him and absolutely loved his design!
@adarsh-singh-bisen
@adarsh-singh-bisen 2 жыл бұрын
I think I have read somewhere or heard in one of your videos that Targaryens are immune to various diseases and greyscale is one of them.
@adarsh-singh-bisen
@adarsh-singh-bisen 2 жыл бұрын
​@Acacio Moore After reading several comments and searching I found that Targaryens do get greyscale.
@milazandstra8067
@milazandstra8067 2 жыл бұрын
About the greyscale: Shireen's greyscale has been healed and is no longer contagious, and it also looks like that. Her greyscale is really only grey scabs on her face. The crabfeeder's greyscale, however, looks red and quite active and I think would still be contagious. (I'm saying this as someone who has no more medical experience than the average person, this is just something I thought of.)
@lanceandrew1319
@lanceandrew1319 2 жыл бұрын
I legit thought when the Unsullied were attacking Casterly Rock that they were attacking Castle Stokeworth. Yknow, Bronn's castle in season 5. They could've just posted a PNG file of book-accurate Casterly Rock in the episode and I would have been fine with it.
@willbeard4835
@willbeard4835 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like we will see casterly rock in the show at some point
@lanceandrew1319
@lanceandrew1319 2 жыл бұрын
@@willbeard4835 so are they gonna retcon it if they ever will show the Rock?
@willbeard4835
@willbeard4835 2 жыл бұрын
@@lanceandrew1319 honestly I hope so. I wouldn't be upset if they retcon everything post season 4.
@lanceandrew1319
@lanceandrew1319 2 жыл бұрын
@@willbeard4835 I'm on board for retcons. We can all just pretend the og show was some alternate timeline and whatnot. At least, that's my head cannon 🤣
@willbeard4835
@willbeard4835 2 жыл бұрын
@@lanceandrew1319 I blocked out the long night. Everything else happened except episode 3 in my head. It was so bad I prefer to believe the white walkers didn't come.
@Nick94956
@Nick94956 2 жыл бұрын
Daemon felt that Viserys was patronizing him by sending help after YEARS of ignoring the conflict
@quadrirahaman9264
@quadrirahaman9264 2 жыл бұрын
Daemons main character trait is attention seeking brat, he specifically asked Viserys for help and then gets upset when Viserys sends help.
@starlight0313
@starlight0313 2 жыл бұрын
the white flag was just a zoomed-in Velaryon banner
@lujoviste
@lujoviste 2 жыл бұрын
I like Aegons A song of ice and fire theory/dream. It fits on why he was so into counquering Dorne. His dream says unite all of westeros. Also explains why Torrhen Stark bend the knee so quickly after he marched the whole way down. I mean sure dragons were scary but these are northerners. They talked in private and they were in agreement that the others were a threat.
@TeddyPicker191
@TeddyPicker191 2 жыл бұрын
Dude I’m so dumb. Your chat brings up such good points and notices things that just fly right over my head.
@ehl3181
@ehl3181 2 жыл бұрын
During this episode, I realised that the decision to make the Velaryons’ black is a really good way to visually separate the two very important, white haired, dragon riding families. Imagine how hard it would be for new fans to remember all these characters with really similar names if they didn’t have such different characteristics.
@tarenhempstead559
@tarenhempstead559 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! A lot of these characters are of similar ages and have similar names. This makes it a little easier to differentiate
@lox_07
@lox_07 2 жыл бұрын
Plus they are well in their acting so far, so I don't mind the minor changes
@julesvillega
@julesvillega 2 жыл бұрын
oh yeah, never thought of that
@Etticos.
@Etticos. 2 жыл бұрын
Aside from making it easy to tell them apart, black people with silver blond long hair just looks cool af.
@kauanfranca2922
@kauanfranca2922 2 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY
@theanarchistcook
@theanarchistcook 2 жыл бұрын
I think Dr. Crab Man is a bit like The Mountain: a warlord, a mad dog, a blunt instrument. A simple man with simple tastes who can be deployed when the time is right.
@Δ-Δ-Δ-Δ
@Δ-Δ-Δ-Δ 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh, I thought he was a prince who had acquired greyscale, lost everything and now is out for blood because he realises how fickle life can be and how not much matters.
@Darkstar_Dayne
@Darkstar_Dayne 2 жыл бұрын
After his death another Prince arrives I don't remember the name but as soon as Daemon leaves The Stepstones are gone again
@scrotiemcboogerballs2133
@scrotiemcboogerballs2133 2 жыл бұрын
@@Darkstar_Dayne could you elaborate more on what happens to the stepstones when Daemon leaves?
@melissataylor8733
@melissataylor8733 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the mirrored symbolism between Daemon in Rhaenyra. Both had their moments returning with a carcass and blood on their faces. In both instances it's a pretty big statement.
@jerdasaurusrex557
@jerdasaurusrex557 2 жыл бұрын
It's entirely possible for armor to stop an arrow enough to prevent serious injury but enough to deflect it.
@D2attemp
@D2attemp 2 жыл бұрын
For the Crabfeeder he basically gets his own little kingdom to rule over. It’s better than just pirating off the coast of Sothoryos
@FinalDragoon63
@FinalDragoon63 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad it was mentioned about the Bard (samwell) at 41:00, my immediate thought was her treating him like an Amazon Echo device.
@visaeryon
@visaeryon 2 жыл бұрын
It is so evident that daemon is not so brave at the beginning, he retreated on hit one and even with a dragon he fing retreated, but at the end even after hit three times, not sure of any backups, he goes on, it shows how nuts he gets for acknowledgment.
@imundertheoaktree
@imundertheoaktree 2 жыл бұрын
The Deer screams reminded me of Aemma's screams and it made me cry
@markcolgan4681
@markcolgan4681 2 жыл бұрын
That's a great point! I didn't notice that.
@kayredhawke1522
@kayredhawke1522 2 жыл бұрын
props for showing the MOST legit sibling behavior i've ever seen on tv of getting so mad that your sibling is coming to help you that you say hold my beer and win an entire war in one go
@888fluffy
@888fluffy 2 жыл бұрын
Animal counter shading (when an animal is dark on top and light underneath) is a thing because it literally counters overhead light. The dark colour in sunlight and the light colour in shade become similar looking, and so reduces the 3D presence of the animal. This helps them camouflage.
@quadcannon
@quadcannon 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite one-armed Viking has been reborn as a golden-haired Lannister! Nice.
@Haveldorf
@Haveldorf 2 жыл бұрын
i really enjoy that they're weaving in future characters in relatively subtle but foreboding ways, particularly with the Strongs.
@daroe2340
@daroe2340 2 жыл бұрын
One of the points of this show and the book that it is based on is that it is an adaptation of history, and the one truth about histories is that the victors get to write them. Newsflash: from a dynasty perspective Rhaenyra wins this godsdamned war. As an example from English history : the idea that Richard the third was a terrible person and Henry Tudor was a gift from the gods is an incredibly biased opinion given to us by a writer who was trying to gain the favor of Queen Elizabeth.
@sayaalicious9146
@sayaalicious9146 2 жыл бұрын
I really like that scene at the end with Alicent advising Viserys on what to do with the war against crab feeder. You can see a lot of Otto in her and she also stays kind
@Trustworthy_McLegitimate
@Trustworthy_McLegitimate 2 жыл бұрын
I expected RHAENYS be on her dragon to fight alongside her husband and son. also Very RISKY of Corlys to put his young son his heir into the frontline.
@Darkstar_Dayne
@Darkstar_Dayne 2 жыл бұрын
He's half Targereyen you can expect that from a dragon lord
@ccdsds3221
@ccdsds3221 2 жыл бұрын
@@Darkstar_Dayne To ride a dragon, a person has to bond with the dragon. Once the dragon and the rider have bonded, that dragon will not allow anyone else to mount it while its rider lives, no matter how familiar said person might be to the dragon.
@tite93
@tite93 2 жыл бұрын
His heir needs to win some glory and personal influence, plus he's a grown man by the standards of the realm. And fighting from a dragon is pretty much the safest position he could be in, compared to his father and uncle
@asasipogi
@asasipogi 2 жыл бұрын
@@ccdsds3221 hmmmm, SPOILERS. . . . . . . . . . not super sure, but didnt the targz employed anyone that can try and ride dragz and some were succesful and was able to ride dragz even if they had zero targ blood and no baby dragon cradle bonding... mot sure if it was plothole, or something martin forgot... jom also just suddenly started riding after touching a dragons (not that that season truly exist anyway)
@HansenDing
@HansenDing 2 жыл бұрын
@@asasipogi spoilers . . . . . . . You're thinking of the Dragonseed, but those are ostensibly all Targ bastards.
@Speakhardly
@Speakhardly 2 жыл бұрын
I hope that someone already said this here, and to be honest I was surprised that this seemed to not come up in the Q&A. The minstrel playing for Rhaenyra was called Samwell, or Sam, which must be a reference to the movie Casablanca, and the famous line "play it again Sam."
@lgc3714
@lgc3714 2 жыл бұрын
About the greyscale, I think it also has to do with the idea that Targaryens don’t easily get sick. It’s one of the basis for the Targaryen exceptionalism.
@BattyButtercup
@BattyButtercup 2 жыл бұрын
An answer to the "how did the [alleged] Aegon Prophecy get passed down to Viserys is Queen Visenya. IF Aegon "had a dream" (i put this in quotes because i still find it a Suspiciously Convenient justification for little Targaryens to keep marrying each other & stay royal) about an apocalypse after Valyria's Doom, he would have told his sister-wives and Visenya, as the "witchy" one, would be key interpreter. Visenya also outlived her siblings and witnessed how messy the succession got firsthand: she would have been responsible for getting the prophecy passed down. THIS form of the Aegon Prophecy (as passed from Viserys to Rhaenyra) was likely passed down from Visenya to some of Maekor's wives, some of Visenya's grand-nieces, and to her successive "Masters of Whispers". Jaeherys would thusly learn of A Prophecy through Alysanne &/or surviving family documents. Since so many Targaryen pregnancies go poorly, Visenya's contingency method (telling the witchier-seeming Targaryens & some who married-in) would be more sensible than what Jaeherys subsequently set-up via taking the "kings & their firstborn sons" route (which became "kings and their eldest surviving adult male heir"). It's also very possible that This Version of an Aegon Prophecy was only varyingly believed in and Jaeherys' method of passing it on, king-to-king rather than "kings AND most magically-inclined Targaryens", is why it got lost to Westeros: fewer witches/magically-inclined royals to believe in prophecy or act on it in a helpful manner.
@iampiyushsingh7544
@iampiyushsingh7544 2 жыл бұрын
I am more excited for Seasnake prequel than the Jon Snow show. Will be hell of a story of ambitions, achivement and love for Rahenys.
@R.D.R.NIGHTINGALE
@R.D.R.NIGHTINGALE 2 жыл бұрын
Daemon did play dirty with the truce banner...and yet his foe(s) were playing dirty by torturing all those men. So in my mind its fair play.
@visaeryon
@visaeryon 2 жыл бұрын
I thought for a moment there, the stag was gonna kill Viserys.
@poenpotzu2865
@poenpotzu2865 2 жыл бұрын
I thought he was going to get injured
@yetipotato8567
@yetipotato8567 2 жыл бұрын
Aye, he was awfully close to those antlers and awfully sluggish with hungover and oldness.
@KaritKtana
@KaritKtana 2 жыл бұрын
Daemon walking out with that severed torso almost looked like the classic silhouette of a little boy holding his teddy bear by the arm. SHUDDER
@markmywords3817
@markmywords3817 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure it was an obvious callback to GOT S1 to have a Lannister weapon kill a Stag... or is it just me?
@sammerry7706
@sammerry7706 2 жыл бұрын
I want to enjoy the show but they need to stop overtly reminding me of got 🙄
@TheHonoredMadman
@TheHonoredMadman 2 жыл бұрын
Caraxes is so cool looking. Literally a snake with limbs, my favorite dragon. Unless we see cannibal
@srb2591
@srb2591 2 жыл бұрын
In the books he is known as the Blood Wyrm. They made him look badass
@TheHonoredMadman
@TheHonoredMadman 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I've got the world of asoiaf but not fire and blood, I have never considered that he'd be eel-like. But he looks great
@poenpotzu2865
@poenpotzu2865 2 жыл бұрын
Their like a mix between an Eastern and western dragon
@TheHonoredMadman
@TheHonoredMadman 2 жыл бұрын
The snake like look has to evidence towards the they bred fire wyrms with southern wyvern theory
@jaymanuel3396
@jaymanuel3396 2 жыл бұрын
Milly Alcock is killing it as young Rhaenyra! I am so bummed that she will be replaced by an older actress soon. Emma D’arcy will be excellent too, looking forward to her performance. But I think they should have used The Crown’s format, two or three seasons with one set of actors, and then later seasons with older versions. We need more time with young Rhaenyra, to get to know more of her struggles.
@AndrewNation13
@AndrewNation13 2 жыл бұрын
This channel is nothing short of totally freakin rad... Thank-you so much much 😎
@michaelbrindley4363
@michaelbrindley4363 2 жыл бұрын
People are making way to big of deal about Deamon landing on the knight at the beach and team killing him. It's dark af out, imagine landing a huge ass dragon in the misty dark night. He wouldn't have heard him crying for help nor would have cared regardless, he didn't know he did it. There's nothing funny or serious about it. It's literally collateral damage.
@isaacflett1321
@isaacflett1321 2 жыл бұрын
I mean it was funny though
@AntiSociableWallflower
@AntiSociableWallflower Жыл бұрын
Chat was so obsessed with asking the same freaking question about the greyscale. In fact I kept wondering if people had their finger up their nose then decided to ask the same question as everyone else, when it had already been answered. Shift is a better person for not getting annoyed.
@tenkenroo
@tenkenroo 2 жыл бұрын
I like the counter between Robert and viserys cause Robert would jump at a war. He wasn’t afraid to make enemies he just couldn’t stand the tedium of ruling. Where as viserys while cautious it’s to a fault. He doesn’t want to upset anyone and will upset everyone
@tenkenroo
@tenkenroo 2 жыл бұрын
Another thing I noticed was even viserys reinforcements were a half measure. Cause when you see what he was sending it honestly didn’t feel like enough
@dennisgannon
@dennisgannon Жыл бұрын
That was a GREAT episode!!! Finally, some quality, light years ahead of all other Hollywood productions.
@jenny_of_oldstones3523
@jenny_of_oldstones3523 2 жыл бұрын
Robert is the kind of guy that wants to get his hands dirty. He's the kind of guy that WOULD go out with a few friends and get the boar on his own. In the show, they went out on a hunt at Winterfell. They showed all of them on horseback, etc.
@karlm641
@karlm641 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing when Seasmoke enters the battle… the one thing the show has done incredibly well so far is explain how important the allowance with the Velaryons is to the Targaryens… I do however feel a dance of the dragons was always inevitable one way or another
@Droxal
@Droxal 2 жыл бұрын
The first 2/3 of this episode was pure delight. Amazing dialogue and character scenes. The last 1/3 was fun to watch, but felt a little cheesy and unrealistic.
@aj7907
@aj7907 2 жыл бұрын
I mean.. there are dragons and stuff here, so ofcourse it's going to be a bit unrealistic.
@arrakistoxic1765
@arrakistoxic1765 2 жыл бұрын
@@aj7907 I think he meant more running into enemies headon and surviving
@lukasgraesslin
@lukasgraesslin 2 жыл бұрын
@@aj7907 weak argument because the dragons are part of the world and logic yet that doesn't mean it excuses plot armour that helps daemon escaping lots of arrows that most likely would have hit him way earlier than they did. it's the same thing as in GOT S1 where Drogo died from the infection yet Arya in S6 survived a knife in the stomach. It just doesn't make sense and saying "yeah but it has dragons so it's unrealistic anyway" is dumb.
@austinlamonge4741
@austinlamonge4741 2 жыл бұрын
@@arrakistoxic1765 I felt that too I was like this dude is surrounded by probably hundreds of people coming at him and he’s kicking everyone’s ass And it’s fair to ground it in reality because that’s the whole point of game of thrones you have all these fantasy elements but it’s all usually grounded somewhat in reality that’s the draw
@austinlamonge4741
@austinlamonge4741 2 жыл бұрын
Also that’s why the hound was great in season 3-4 because he was the biggest knight in the room and even he struggled and was basically running away
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