Amazing Conversation With a Latter Day Saint

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[@nonamerequired55555]

​@@robertvann7349 This B= "non-works is necessary" is a bit flawed. It doesn't make sense. By the argument it IS or ISN'T. Are works necessary? or are works NOT necessary? To ask if non-works are necessary isn't really a communicable question or argument.

[@nonamerequired55555]

​@@robertvann7349 "made Mary pregnant" shaking my head.

[@nonamerequired55555]

​@@robertvann7349 I like how two other comments were not posted.

[@nonamerequired55555]

​@@robertvann7349 How do you interpret John chapter 3?

[@nonamerequired55555]

@@robertvann7349 In Christ, our works are a RESULT of our faith salvation. Not a prerequisite. Because of. Not for.

[@tristanpeyton2747]

Beautiful are the feet the bring the Gospel! Brings tears to my eyes seeing the love, compassion, and charity shown toward those LDS who are lost and in need of a saving Jesus.

[@bradychristensen9611]

As a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints. I can assure you we know and believe in a loving Father in Heaven along with his Son Jesus Christ who is our Savior and redeemer and through him we shall be made whole after this life. Thank you for your concern.

[@TheJpgr1958]

@@bradychristensen9611 If I may ask this....how would you refute all groups who all make the exact same claims your group does, use the exact same standards to determine if what they believe is true just like your group does, claim to have a prophet/leader/spokesperson that is the only one who hears and speaks for God, etc., without refuting yourself in the end?

[@xxdarkwolf20xx60]

@@bradychristensen9611 did you watch the video? The LDS gospel is not the gospel of the Bible

[@honoringintimates]

Your work in evangelizing Mormons is admirable and educational. 🙏🏻 Praying for continued blessings on your ministry! - “Sanctify them by the truth; Your word is truth.” (John‬ ‭17‬:‭17‬ ‭LSB‬‬)

[@p4pdestined8]

Excellent. I actually put the subtitles on so I can write down what Zachary said and incorporate it into a letter I wish to send to my family about the good news concerning Jesus Christ and the way of salvation: the gospel. Thank you so much for this. God bless you

[@tylerbuckner3750]

Click “more” under the description, turn on the transcript function, and you can copy/paste the entire conversation. Hope it helps.

[@p4pdestined8]

@@tylerbuckner3750 Ah, that's right! Thanks for reminding me!

[@patriciageller3381]

Immersion( baptism)... Acts 2:37-42, Acts 22:16, Matthew 28:18-20

[@cll_3462]

I love the simplicity of what he was telling him. Just scripture after scripture. It’s plainly written in the Bible. Jesus was God. I hope to use this in my future conversations with my LDS friends.

[@usernametaken6659]

@@bricksandconcrete what contradictions if I may ask, I've watch a few vids and what inaccuracies? Genuinely asking.

[@bradychristensen9611]

@@usernametaken6659 For one I would encourage you to study the Trinity. While doing so look into the deferent believes of the different churches for one The Church of Jesus Christ of Later day Saints. A good question to then ask yourself is what would be more beneficial for Satin The Trinity or the belief that the 3 being are separate. I feel this will change the way you look at scripture. Good luck in your quest for truth .

[@usernametaken6659]

@@bradychristensen9611 who walked with adam and eve in the garden of eden?

[@ryanhart3159]

Praise God those whose feet run to spread the good news of his gospel!!!🙏❤️.

[@vannilian2023]

Keep doing for JW and Mormon people. I pray for this ministry. I hope JW and Mormon people open their eye and turn to the true Jesus

[@graspunwrapped1124]

This really gives me a good example for how to handle personal engagement when out on evangelistic missions.

[@Crom83]

I am currently on my way out of the Mormon church after being a member my entire life. I have never felt so lost and confused, these videos give me hope that I can have peace through the real Jesus. The Mormon church is so wrong, but it has been so hard to walk away even though I know it’s wrong.

[@xxdarkwolf20xx60]

I’d recommend trying to find fellowship with Christian’s at a Christian church. The path walking away can be difficult but with support you can do it. Even just you and God. I believe in you!

[@Crom83]

Thank you. I find my self freezing up and not doing anything. I am so afraid of being deceived by another “church”. It has definitely been a hard journey.

[@Crom83]

Not sure why you felt the need to comment. Of course I have done those things, that doesn’t make the Lds church right. Have you read their own gospel topics essays? They do nothing but bring people to Christ? I’m sorry, but I strongly disagree.

[@living_m2414]

Hey brother or sister. Covering you in prayer tonight.

[@Crom83]

The fullness of Christ's Gospel isn’t found in a church that worships Joseph Smith and puts the Book of Mormon before the Bible. And before you assume you know me, I went to church every single week looking to learn more about Jesus and the Bible but rarely got it. Instead I got Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon shoved down my throat. I am now on a journey to find a church that will help me learn more about God and the Bible.

[@tuObvii]

what a sound, and beautiful (with humility) presentation of the Gospel, the good news of Jesus Christ & the salvation He brings to all that believe. "How delightful on the mountains Are the feet of one who brings good news, Who announces peace And brings good news of happiness, Who announces salvation, And says to Zion, “Your God reigns!” Isaiah 52:7

[@bran_done]

I work for a Campus Ministry focused on Discipleship and Evangelism. This is actually very encouraging after discouraging conversations with students.

[@ryankasza1]

So appreciate you, brother!

[@A1vin505]

Oh how sweet sweet the gospel news is!

[@createdmanpainting]

Gospel! Powerfully delivered. God bless these men. This was wonderful.

[@kj1678]

Holy moly this evangelism is spot on!! I need more of these videos!!

[@jiujitsu1515]

Truth at its finest... Amen. Bless him Lord bless him. Eph2.8:9 for by grace you are saved through faith and that not of yourselves it's a gift from God lest any man should boast

[@xjstooks]

“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven,* but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven.” (Matthew 7:21) Our faith is completed by the works we do. See James 2:22, “You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by the works.” The gift of grace that Jesus gave us was completely unmerited but a free gift still needs to be accepted, unwrapped, assembled, put to use, appreciated, shown to others, etc.

[@xjstooks]

Jesus’ death was an opportunity for God to reunite and reconcile himself to his people in the sacrificial passion on the cross for our sins. What great love to lay down one’s life for a friend! Everyday is an active choice to take up our cross and follow him. To deny ourselves. To die to sin so as to rise in Christ through baptism where we receive the Holy Spirit. And in the breaking of the bread he made himself present to his Apostles. So too today! Alleluia! Alleluia! He is Risen! Happy Easter!

[@Mr.biggstrength]

Just beautiful

[@jenniferstewart5300]

Amazing Job thru the Holy Spirit Brother

[@patrickwilder9980]

Great convo brother Zach!

[@DocGero]

You shared the Truth with such love and faith. God' is proud of you for sure.

[@randycadkins]

This was such a wonderful, loving gospel presentation! Great job brother!

[@marciaadamson7032]

Amen, Thank you JESUS ✝️🙏🏻

[@reneelalala7690]

God bless you brother

[@jenniferpaul1832]

Very nicely done, Zachary!

[@mcdr15]

It’s so sad that the Mormons worship a Jesus who cannot save them from their sins. I love the infra-faith work that Apologia Church does.

[@bradychristensen9611]

We believe in the one who died on the cross and suffered for our sins. Since I am a member I should know and that is the one. If you know of a better one I would like to find out about him because the one I believe in is really great and that's a understatement.

[@mcdr15]

@@bradychristensen9611 is your Jesus a created being?

[@TheJpgr1958]

@@bradychristensen9611 Since you're a LDS, I would like to ask you how you would refute those in other groups such as The Watchtower, The Churches of Christ, The Unification Church, etc., plus the many off shoots of your group such as the FLDS, though I know they don't call themselves that anymore, who all make the exact same claims your group does, who go to the exact same Biblical passages as your group does and apply them to their group, who utilize the exact same standard to determine if what they believe is true just like you do, who claim to have a founder/leader/prophet that is the only one on earth who can speak and hear from God, plus other parallels I can name, without refuting yourself in the end?

[@taffydavis471]

Bless you. Such goodness you’re spreading.

[@Kylecombes4]

So well spoken

[@mikeweaver71]

Man our kids keep us humble. Ha ha. Awesome.

[@Tom67X]

As good as I've ever seen it done.

[@MrMfloor]

Wonderful. How beautiful are those feet who preach the truth

[@samsamthecat492]

This is the good news!❤

[@christianjones4442]

Love Zach ❤

[@aTodaCreature]

God is good!!!

[@jayburris6252]

I love it.

[@cillwonforti2903]

Great work

[@mastergrillex]

Am I the only one who read the caption in the thumbnail as "Sharing the Gospel with the lads" at first?

[@ethanpeltola2595]

so good!!!!

[@orlandoalonso2587]

Beautiful ❤️✝️💪

[@krave07]

Good video, thanks for posting! The only wording that I thought could be improved upon was usage of the phrase “turn from sin.” What does that exactly mean? Be specific and support it with Scripture. Thank you, brother

[@AcousticRadiation]

I like watching Jeff because he's truly a master of his craft in logical debates. However, this guy's love and sincere desire was honestly beautiful to watch. I am a Latter-day Saint (i.e., sinner), and do not plan on that changing. However, examples like this man's heartfelt love makes me want to hear out what other Christians believe and have to say. Based on his demeanor in this interaction, I feel like this guy would care about what I have to say, and honestly I feel like that's what me and so many of my faith crave when it comes to talking with people from various Christian denominations. I would love to be that missionary that he's going to chat with soon.

[@gigenaia]

I never planned on changing either, but God by His mercy and unmerited favor provided a perfect scapegoat to be defiled and sacrificed in my place, and willed me to believe in this glorious gospel! So yes, nobody ever plans to change :)

[@jeremiahr615]

Did he record his conversation with the missionaries the following week? I would like to see that.

[@davidosman3614]

I find it interesting that these guys at Apologia Studios only try to preach to the younger members of the LDS church. It would be nice to have them go speak to the leaders, to men and woman who know the teachings of the Bible and Book of Mormon at the same level they do. The people they approach are the younger members who still have a lot to learn, we all do. I would just like to see a more even playing field.

[@devilsatan2973]

They have witnessed to older folks too!

[@superpotoo8065]

I am a “Mormon” (Member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) and would like to address some of the questions posed to the best of my abilities (I am fairly certain every thing I say is what we believe, but I’m not 100.0% sure). For the first question about how Jesus could create his own brother, 1. We believe Jesus was the creator of everything in the sense that he organized the world (or the universe) into existence, not necessarily our spirits (we were with God in the beginning). 2. Satan is the spirit brother of Jesus Christ in the same way we are ALL spirit brothers and sisters of God The Father (Heavenly Father). Also, as pertaining to salvation depending on ourselves, we can sincerely repent in order to redeem ourselves of our sins through Christ’s grace. We fall short of God, no matter what we do, but the atonement offers us a means through which we can live with him again.

[@robertknight3354]

Is Zach C stepping back in more heavily now that Joy is leaving and breaking everyone's hearts? Because that would a very nice addition.

[@Nicole116_]

Joy is leaving?

[@robertknight3354]

@@Nicole116_ Yes, her family is relocating out of state. Sheologians will still go on with Joy via remote.

[@fushion999]

Taking a page out of Durbins book lol

[@Songbird555]

How much sin do we turn from to be saved? I thought it was a change of mind, from believing in myself for salvation to trusting Christ for salvation? Doesn't the Holy Spirit once in dwelled help me to then clean up and then do good works once I'm saved?

[@AlexanderTate.]

Can’t hear what the Mormon said

[@Originaldoctrine]

Apologia preach a gospel of self-flagellation, self-doubt and faithlessness. We are taught and commanded to be perfect; Matthew 5:48, Hebrews 6:1. Don’t let Apologia deceive you into thinking that’s impossible; 1 John 3:7, Ephesians 4:13. We can overcome all the opposition this world throws at us and overcome it through Jesus Christ; John 16:32.

[@thebasiclute]

I speak with Apologia every year at the Mesa Temple Easter Pageant. They film my conversations with them, but never post them! Apologia Studios only post the conversations with people where they win the conversation. Bummer for all of you who are denied the other videos hidden from you... where they lose and are scared to post for you to see how those conversations go down. :(

[@brawlstarssponsorships]

Do you have the video recorded?

[@thebasiclute]

@@brawlstarssponsorships they have it recorded and the footage.

[@brawlstarssponsorships]

@@thebasiclute Do you have it recorded?

[@thebasiclute]

@@brawlstarssponsorships no I do not... they did the filming. I was just talking with them. I was not the one that had the film crew.

[@Originaldoctrine]

Apologia say we need a righteousness that is not our own; that we need a perfect righteousness that we can’t achieve. Don’t let Apologia deceive you; 1 John 3:7, Hebrews 6:1. We can achieve perfect righteousness through faith on Jesus Christ.

[@Elizabeth-rk3do]

@@Originaldoctrine Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect. In order to be justified before a holy God, we need to be perfect. We need the righteousness of God.

[@Originaldoctrine]

@@Elizabeth-rk3do Apologia say that the Gospel is not good news if it relies on anything from you and I. But the Gospel is all about our coming to God and his salvation through our faith. Imagine a store is offering free TVs (grace) to anyone willing to come to the store, collect the TV, carry it home, unbox it, plug it in and pay for the electricity to keep it on. (Faith) Apologia think if you only get the TV by collecting it, carrying it home, unboxing it, plugging it in, and then paying for the electricity to keep it on then the TV wasn’t free. But without the store (Jesus Christ) there would be no free TV (grace) at all. Why would Jesus Christ expect us to collect the TV, carry it home, unbox it, plug it in, and then pay for the electricity to put the free TV (grace) to work? Why all that faith to make grace efficacious? Romans 5:1-2. This is the Gospel of Jesus Christ; That our sins are forgiven as we walk in the light as Jesus did; 1 John 1:7. That our sins are forgiven as we actively love and serve one another; 1 Peter 4:8., Matthew 25. That we are saved by being a doer of the word and not just a hearer only; James 1:21-22. Keep the commandments and receive eternal life; Matthew 19:17. Don’t believe the Apologia lie that you’re too disgusting and wretched to exercise faith unto salvation. Do the will of the Father and become perfect; Matthew 5:48, Hebrews 6:1. Ephesians 4:13.

[@freshguy54]

Does this guy watch Jeff's videos and study them or follow a script from Jeff?

[@AdamEyers]

Apologia says we need a righteousness that is not our own. The Bible says 1 John 3:7.

[@Originaldoctrine]

Apologia says we’re not righteous we’re all sinners; and that the Bible says there are none righteous quoting Romans 3:10-12. But Romans 3:10-12 is actually saying neither Jews nor gentiles were being righteous. Don’t let Apologia deceive you - the Bible says; 1 John 3:7.

[@Moepsalms]

Wasn’t a “conversation” really but none the less good work

[@Originaldoctrine]

Apologia say that John 1 says that Jesus is the creator of all things everywhere, ever in existence. But the most accurate translation of John 1 is; 1. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God; 2. this one was in the beginning with God; 3. all things through him did happen, and without him happened not even one thing that hath happened. That’s not saying at all that Jesus Christ created everything, everywhere, ever in existence.

[@Originaldoctrine]

Apologia say that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints say that Jesus is not the eternal God. The Bible says; 1 Corinthians 8:6, 1 Timothy 2:5. John 14:8, John 20:17, 1 Corinthians 15:28. Philippians 2:9-11. It seems like the Bible says that the Father is the eternal God and Jesus is our Lord, the Son of the Eternal God.

[@jody2873]

"When you turn from sin "?...do you have to turn from sin first??- before all that good news??

[@samsamthecat492]

No, that would make it difficult to be saved and put work on us

[@jody2873]

@@samsamthecat492 that's what I was thinking. If that was the first step, I'd be hightailing it right out

[@kaylar3197]

@Jody we are called to repent and believe-they go together. “Turn from sin” is just a paraphrase of the meaning of the word “repent”. That doesn’t mean that we must stop all sinful activities before we can be saved, ‘cause, yeah, that’s impossible. But it does mean that we stop pursuing sin-turn away-and turn to Jesus, agree with His righteous judgment of our sin that it is deserving of death. And the fundamental sin we turn from is the sin of unbelief. The rest comes step by step (some steps bigger than others) as God sanctifies us. So, yes, your understanding is correct; I think you may have misunderstood how he was using the term.

[@matt7019.]

Is witnessing, as Zack is doing it here, learned over time by just jumping feet first into evangelism? Or, should a person spend a few years in the Bible before doing this?

[@omarsfitnessworld3213]

Spreading the gospel to non believers can be done jumping feet first into evangelism. By simply telling people about the good news but you should know a couple scriptures to back up what you believe. Now to evangelize to believers in other faiths you should have more knowledge in the scriptures. Sometimes getting into apologetic evangelism it can take a year to a couple years depends on how fast you grasp the scriptures. Theres different levels of apologetics. But then again sometimes God gives you the wisdom and the words right there and then to preach his word. Hope that helps. Have a great day.

[@matt7019.]

@Omar’s Fitness World I've been a Christian for a couple of years. I feel like my study is coming along nicely, but quoting can elude me. I can often paraphrase, but not exactly quote it. I also will know the general book it's in, but usually not exactly where. I also have picked up a lot of theology, but it doesn't always come to me right away. I'll remember points later

[@matt7019.]

@Omar’s Fitness World thanks for taking the time to talk, and for the suggestion, brother.

[@jjjj-uh3mu]

Remember the mormons have their own bible, just like catholics. They have bibles that are different to the KJV. They have books in their bible that are not in the KJV.

[@AdamEyers]

Apologia is saying that the gospel that Jesus preached is not good news because he and his apostles required action to receive grace and didn’t preach the idle path to salvation that Apologia preach. Matthew 3:7,8. Matthew 19:17, Matthew 25, Mark 16:16, John 1:6,9,10, John 3:5, Romans 2:1-11, Philippians 2:12, James 2:14-26, 1 John 1:7, 1 John 2:3-6. 1 John 3:7, 1 John 3:22-24. John 15:1-17, 1 John 5:2,3. 2 Revelation 3:20,Revelation 14:12,13. Revelation 22:14

[@Braydonsgotyourback]

There’s three separate bearing God, the father and his son Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost. What are you don’t get right is that they are one one in purpose.

[@Originaldoctrine]

Apologia put words in Jesus’ mouth to preach the Apologia gospel and not the Gospel of Jesus Christ; saying “unless you believe that I am the eternal God, you’re going to die in your sins.” But he actually said; John 8:24.

[@Mr.Lateralus]

It’s fascinating and heartbreaking at the same time…… that cognitive dissonance is a terrible drug…. Not saying this gentleman being witnessed to was “suffering” from that, because he was actually listening, thankfully, but most LDS folk “can’t” listen to true sound doctrine because of cognitive dissonance….

[@Mr.Lateralus]

@@gordianknot9595 That is a fair question. I would sincerely hope that I am not closing myself to the truth. The usual difference between a Bible believing Christian and a devout LDS is that the Christian would try to point to the LDS many apparent flaws that the founder of the LDS, Joseph Smith and many so called “prophets” thereafter made in history, such as false prophecies, sinful lifestyles, and contradictions the Book of Mormon has against the Word of God, etc. I hope this answers your question. But practically speaking, LDS would sometimes not prefer not to hear what the Christian has to say, as the LDS “eldership” would refrain from being witnessed…

[@Mr.Lateralus]

@@gordianknot9595 Yes. I have many times. Are you curious about those points? You can ask me anything, and I will try to answer with the bible in hand👍

[@Mr.Lateralus]

@@gordianknot9595 Awesome question! My name is Eric by the way. What's yours? The works based "salvation" of the LDS is unequivocally the polar opposite of the biblical interpretation of how to receive salvation, aka being born again. There are a couple of things to know to really understand and see the big picture. The LDS affirm salvation "by grace after all that you can do". Ask a Mormon how to be saved (and I mean a traditional Mormon that doesn't change their doctrine over time, which unfortunately they do) and they will say something like this in order to appease the main prophet Joseph Smith and the other prophets: ..."We must believe in Jesus Christ, be baptized in the LDS Church, continually repent, sustain (support, agree with) the LDS prophets, receive the LDS ordinances (such as baptism for the dead and eternal marriage in a Mormon temple), and live faithfully according to the commandments." Would you agree that is something you would have to work towards? If you say yes, then you would be correct. That is a perfect picture of works based salvation, which is unbiblical. Now, biblical Christianity teaches salvation by grace ALONE, through faith ALONE in Jesus Christ ALONE. Consider it this way... It is by grace that I have been GIFTED faith.... Faith and or belief are not a work, but a gift... that I myself could never earn or receive in my own terms... ever... I hope this makes sense.

[@Mr.Lateralus]

@@gordianknot9595 Another great question! To put it simply, it is because you never "received it"... Actually to be more biblically accurate... we don't want His gift.... We want our sin instead... Isn't that true? The bible says we grew up hating God... We are hostile towards Him.. BUT because God is rich in mercy, He gave you Jesus the Messiah so that we don't have to suffer His wrath. His sacrifice was on the cross to pay for YOUR sins... MY sins. Now He is resurrected and seated on His throne. Put your faith and trust in Him, confess your sins to Him, and repent. THEN and only then will you sincerely be a child of the Creator of the universe! God! He is the most amazing King anyone can personally know. I put my faith and trust in Him when I found myself to be a horrible person, and my sins (fornication, lying, stealing, murder in the heart, etc) had brought the PERFECT SINLESS King to the cross... But it only took true integrity to see this... and to be honest with myself. John 3:16 - "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life." And now I don't fear death as much as most people... Now, I look forward to heaven. Moreover, God in heaven. If you don't truly know who He is, you don't know what your missing out on... You might die tonight! Please don't miss this...

[@jbp4182]

Cognitive dissonance affects us all. It is easily seen in others but seldom recognized in oneself. It’s the reason one clings to an ideology that is part of their identity despite contrary evidence. No one is immune to it…

[@blaisetshomba8850]

My hope is to have a discussion with you about our beliefs one day. I am not a representative of my church, the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. However, I think we can discuss the book of Mormon and also on the Bible. I'm open to hear other people's thoughts on religion and faith. I think it would be a great exercise to compare our beliefs in a respectful way. It is certain that we can both learn a lot from each other.

[@redstateforever]

How do you answer what was discussed in the video? Who is Jesus? Is He the eternal God, Creator of all things? Or is he the offspring of Heavenly Father and one of his goddess wives, our elder brother, and brother to Satan? Two different things, He can’t be both. And only one can save you. So do you believe what the Bible and Jesus say about himself? Or do you believe what Joseph said 2000 years later?

[@45s262]

Go check out David Alexander. Delighting in truth and denouncing deception..

[@AdamEyers]

Apologia says that grace is “unmerited” favour. The bible says Matthew 3:7,8. If grace is unmerited why did John the Baptist insist that people seeking baptism brought fruits meet for repentance? The Pharisees and the Sadducee’s need to wait for the gospel of Paul to be revealed so they can go to heaven without baptism like Apologia teach. Jesus Christ though taught that baptism was necessary for salvation. Mark 16:16, John 3:5. Apologia are clearly teaching another gospel than Jesus did. Galatians 1.8.

[@Originaldoctrine]

Apologia are now saying that Colossians 1 says that Jesus created everything, everywhere, ever in existence. But all Colossians 1:16 says is that Jesus created all thrones, dominions, principalities and powers. Not that Jesus created everything, everywhere, ever in existence.

[@AdamEyers]

A very sincere and earnest false teacher.

[@AdamEyers]

But Apologia don’t believe or teach that baptism is necessary for salvation. And yet the Bible says Matthew 28:19, Mark 16:16, John 3:5, Acts 2:38. Didn’t the real Jesus say that baptism was necessary for salvation?

[@AdamEyers]

Apologia are giving their fake “I love you” presentation again.

[@AdamEyers]

Did Jesus create the Father and the Holy Ghost. Did he create planes, trains, boats, cars, cities, etc. Even John 1 has context.

[@Originaldoctrine]

Apologia says that’s a concern for him because if Jesus created everything, everywhere, ever in existence then that means he also created lucifer(and therefore Apologia believes Jesus also created evil I guess). Apologia’s concern is that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints don’t agree that Jesus Christ created Lucifer and therefore teach a different Jesus that can’t save you. Latter Day Saints believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God who came to earth, lived a perfectly righteous life, suffered and died for the sins of all mankind, was buried and resurrected again on the third day. And only by faith on Jesus Christ can mankind be saved. What difference does it make whether Lucifer was created by Jesus or rather was a spirit child of our Heavenly Father that rebelled, as to the salvation of Latter Day Saints? Apologia run a “holier than thou” ministry and they do not have the Holy Ghost with them. Romans 8:9.

[@Originaldoctrine]

Apologia is now confusing the law of Moses with the commandments. The 10 commandments were a part of the law of Moses but all of God’s commandments are also a part of the law of Christ; 1 Corinthians 9:21, John 14:15. Keeping the commandments is necessary for receiving eternal life. Matthew 19:17. Don’t let Apologia deserve you.

[@Elizabeth-rk3do]

@Originaldoctrine Eternal life is a free gift. I already have eternal life. Romans 6:23 The wages of sin is death, but the gift 🎁 of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus our Lord.

[@Originaldoctrine]

@@Elizabeth-rk3do Eternal Life is a blessing that will be given us in the world to come. We don’t have it yet; we are all going to die someday. And we must keep the commandments to receive Eternal Life; Matthew 19:17, John 17:3, 1 John 2:3. Here are some other key verses teaching that our salvation is acquired over time and is more of a process than an immediate endowment; Matthew 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. Romans 13:11 And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed. Colossians 1:22-23 In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister; Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ: 1 Peter 1:5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time 2 Peter 1:1-10 1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ: 2 Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord, 3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue: 4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. 5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; 6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; 7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity. 8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. 10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall: Hebrews 3:14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;

[@jenkins0409]

😂 that wasn't a conversation; he was lecturing him.

[@stephenjohansen8131]

You guys need to keep reading and memorizing scripture. Like James 1:22-23 Romans 2 13-16 Matthew 7: 21-23 Matthew 16:27 Luke 6:46-49 There are many more……Stop picking on kids.

[@mattwhisnant5926]

I appreciate the respect, and I appreciate your knowledge of the Christian faith, and I actually don’t disagree, but when I see these videos, I can’t help but think to myself “Would God- who is omniscient- really condemn someone who genuinely BELIEVES they are following him, who genuinely believes they are worshipping Christ, who is not a part of a sadistic cult that is obviously evil but rather part of a sect of Christianity that has some different beliefs than other sects?” It’s an important question because we have to assume that you and I don’t have a perfect understanding of the Bible and of Jesus’ teachings, either. Hopefully we’re just a little off, but we may be waaaay off. Would He judge us for our mistaken understanding? I just don’t think so. If so, we’re all screwed, because we are certainly not 100% right. Maybe we’re 60% right, and an LDS or Jehova’s Witness is 45% right. So is that extra 15% going to save us? I don’t think so. I think we do the best we can to understand the best we can, pray and learn as much as possible, and have faith in Jesus that he will forgive us and save us. I don’t see our LDS and Jehova’s Witness brothers and sisters going to hell for their beliefs. Maybe, but I don’t see it. But then again, our understanding of God is approximately the equivalent of the understanding the ants in my back yard have of me. We do not have perfect understanding. I don’t believe God expects us to. Look at Jesus’ conversation with his disciples in John- his disciples who had been with him personally- as he awaited his apprehension by the Roman soldiers. Not even they understood him. He continually asked “So you still not understand? Do you still not know who I am?” So did his disciples go to hell for their lack of understanding? I just don’t think so. I think we have to be careful not to be haughty about our own understanding. I appreciate what you do, but none of us are wise enough to call ourselves better or more righteous than another sincerely believing Christian. We think, with the mind of man, about God. We believe, with the heart of man, in God. It’s a bit like using a single chisel to carve Mount Rushmore. It’s just not a powerful enough tool to save us. Only our faith and God’s grace can do that. Anyway, that’s how I see it. But (as goes my whole argument), I could be wrong.

[@codeman966]

So if Jesus created Satan, he loves evil then

[@loudogg73]

It's more like Christ loves us yet we have free will to do good or to do evil. Satan chose evil.

[@AdamEyers]

Apologia misuse scripture again where Isaiah is addressing a rebellious Israel who keep some aspects of the mosaic law by saying their righteous acts are like filthy rags. Far more relevant for true followers of Christ is Revelation 19:8.

[@DailyJamsWithJesusChrist]

If there is a church out there that can baptize the dead, that is the true church of God.

[@micahkemper4581]

Who says that makes it the true church of God? And can’t I baptize anything and everything?

[@zerubbablestranger6970]

According to what standard?

[@Aqui..]

Anyone can baptise the dead by proxy however its not biblical. Joseph Smith was an apostate con man.

[@gundriver6439]

That's just another made up mormon convention. A soul's fate is sealed at death.

[@bradychristensen9611]

@@zerubbablestranger6970 All those who died without the chance to hear the gospel and be baptized. I'm sure they would agree.

[@Originaldoctrine]

Apologia says that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints teaches that salvation comes by obedience to the laws and ordinances of “this church.” Not so; that’s another Apologia lie. The Church teaches that through the atonement of Jesus Christ mankind may be saved by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

[@alexinthemiddle4170]

What proof is there that lucifer was in the beginning of heaven when Jesus created it? According to your belief, Jesus is the son of the son of God?

[@bradychristensen9611]

No just the son of God the first born.

[@AdamEyers]

Apologia are splitting hairs and preaching their false gospel again. I imagine Jesus is very disappointed with how Apologia try to preach their gospel in his name.

[@Originaldoctrine]

Apologia now try to double down on their deception by quoting Isaiah 64:6 saying all our righteousness is as filthy rags. But Isaiah was talking to an unrepentant, apostate Israel who thought the mosaic law made them righteous. But those living under the law of Christ are righteous (1 John 3:7) and their righteousness is as fine linen; Revelation 19:8.

[@kylethedalek]

Ok what about other people, like the atheist channels who do put out some really good content and debate or fine rebuttals to other channels claims. A good channel for freedom but more on the Atheist side is “Liberty in our lifetime” and look at their channels tab. (Also their playlist tab.) There is plenty of atheists there who have debunked many claims by some of the biggest Religious channels on here and these Christian channels don’t allow debate on their channels as they don’t allow commenting. As much as it hurts, The Atheist clearly has more thoughtful thinking and evidence to back up what they say. So religious channels really don’t stand a chance this is why I think they don’t try to rebuttal them. I’m really having doubts about religion and such.

[@ogloc6308]

What are you talking about? Literally all of the ministries and apologetics channels ive seen allow and engage in debates, questions and comments. Apologia, InspiringPhilosophy, Alpha and Omega ministries, testify, whatdoyoumeme, answers in genesis all engage in debates and answer questions off of the top of my head. You should take a look at Apologia’s and Inspiring Philosophies videos and scroll through to find answers to probably any questions you have. I have to disagree, i think atheists get easily refuted on the vast majority of topics. If you don’t have the foundation of Jesus Christ, your “religion” will be lost

[@samsamthecat492]

I'm sorry you are having doubts. A good channel to watch is Mike Winger but some of his videos are long and also Melissa Dougherty. They explain really well. It's about a relationship with Jesus, not a religion.

[@donaldkeith139]

Please have a look at the work of William Craig - he has debated Atheists regularly and thoroughly. There are several Christian channels that discuss Christianity (not sure what you mean by "Religious Channels" - admittedly, I cannot find much apologetics by Muslims, Buddhists etc..) Premier Unbelievable is one that hosts conversations and debates between all manner of people, Theists, Atheists and even Anti-Theists. Capturing Christianity hosts guests that tackle many objections that Atheists have about Christianity. Whaddo You Meme?? discusses pop-culture in the context of Christianity. Inspiring Philosophy looks at Christianity from a philosophical and historical context. On balance of the evidence and reasoning, Atheism doesn't make sense to me, and I'm happy to share my personal experiences - please feel free to ask.

[@greenghost6416]

@@samsamthecat492 Why do people keep saying things like this as if religion is a bad word? You realize that every person on the planet is religious (they have a religion) right? This includes atheist.

[@TheB1nary]

If this is a genuine response, then I pray that God helps you with your doubts.

[@ohfosho4360]

Apologians LOVE to see themselves on camera 😂 #Apolodouchebags

[@T_Crusader]

That's no way to talk about 2 fellas just having a deep convo, not cool man, not cool. Actually, kinda lame. 💀

[@ohfosho4360]

@@T_Crusader Cuz it’s fake. He’s not doing it to save this guy. He’s doing it to be seen of men.

[@T_Crusader]

@@ohfosho4360 Oh, are you a spiritist, perhaps a psychic? You know what’s going through his head? How are you going to prove YOU know what HIS intentions are? That’s simply ludicrous, I’m going to assume you don’t like his message like any sane person would after seeing your comment. Could you stop it with the childish insults and baseless accusations, and tell me why you are upset with these apologists? If you have valid criticism I genuinely want to hear it.

[@kylethedalek]

What about left wing channels who are exposing the right, and debunking the rights talking points? Jon Stewart has been doing a really good job, the salty voter, Potholer, Aron ra. The last two are really good on religion, and debunk religious claims.

[@Jimmy-iy9pl]

Jon Stewart? Aron Ra? How old are you?

[@OfficerTyreek]

You are asking a Christian channel if they have seen people “debunking” religion. I promise you they have heard every objection to Christianity in the book, including any of the ones that the people that you listed have said. If you’re truly genuinely curious about Christian apologetics (reasoned defense for the existence of the Christian God), then watch some of their other videos or some of the debates that they have done and view them with an open mind.

[@donaldkeith139]

I'm confused - why do you talk about left vs. right, and then talk about debunking religious claims? Are you disputing religion? Or politics?

[@mikegreen2229]

Aron Ra is a drunken jerk. I’m sorry, but if you want to convince someone with your intellectual superiority, you should stop insulting and chugging booze during debates.

[@TheB1nary]

Huh?

[@gabrielkoncowski1403]

Sadly not correct. God created everything. Jesus came into existence when Mary was pregnant. You are mislead

[@algernon_2023]

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Colossians 2:9 For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. John 10:30 I and the Father are one. Matthew 1:23 The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel” (which means “God with us”).