Amazing Indian Hand-Planes

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[@AwfulErik]

Bought the grizzly block plane and a 22" smoothing plane and set them up just like you did and can't be happier with them. The 22" did take substantially more lapping to make the sole dead flat. I also slightly lapped the very edges and leading flat with a microscopic bevel like Paul Sellers. They both work great.

[@shripadlale7476]

Great review! In depth and impartial! I was shocked that living in India, I would always try to buy my best tools when I travelled abroad. Looks like some 'Made in India' brands are our best kept secret! Thanks for letting me know!

[@RexKrueger]

Check out the IndianDIY blog for more tools from your country!

[@ATXrenecruz]

All of my hand planes are wooden, either bought or made, but I wanted a metal plane for my smoother for better accuracy and speed. I had been eyeing the Grizzly smoother for a long time and this video finally got me off the fence and I bought it. It is AWESOME!!!! Mine didn't need a lot of tune up, so I was up and running pretty quickly. I actually used it to prep some stock to build ANOTHER plane. Thanks Rex. Life's better now!

[@RexKrueger]

That's DELIGHTFUL! I think I will do future videos on using this plane to make more planes.

[@proutsos]

Hey I bought this bighorn plane in a big box store in Greece and if you overlook the somewhat questionable fit of the handles and the fact that the cam does not work its steel is hard and works a charm! It is now my go-to plane!

[@RexKrueger]

I'm glad SOMEONE is getting some good use out of theirs!

[@michaelgibson2163]

Bought a rapier 500 last year from our habitat for humanity store. $25. Used your insights to tune er up and i love it. Sometimes its not online that the best quality shows up. But i love old tools also.

[@michaelhudson1892]

Rex I bought one of these. The issue of the advance can be fixed by adding a small piece of aluminum the same thickness of the blade and long enough to go from the opening for the advance lever to the bolt that holds the blade and chip breaker together. The advance lever end has a place to grip and does not fall into the space of the blade slot. I also made one with a slot in the insert piece so it passes on each side of the blade/chip breaker slot bolt in the blade slot. I'm still experimenting with it but it seems to work great with this addition.

[@RexKrueger]

I'm not following you, but I'm interested. Any way I can see a pic?

[@michaelhudson1892]

@@RexKrueger Hey Rex where do u want me to send a couple pics. I don't have Instagram

[@RexKrueger]

Messenger?

[@christiandestefano9997]

I can absolutely tell you are an author/writer during your evaluations. Great stuff.

[@createdezign1840]

I have 4 Faithful planes. No.3,4,5 and a block plane they work just fine after fettling and learning how to sharpen correctly.

[@DavidOmaha1]

So glad to hear that Indian tools are making headway into the American market.

[@RexKrueger]

These ones are!

[@sailorguyli]

Luv it About 2 years ago I bought a Stanley low angle jack plane to use on my shooting board. Was over $100 but best price I had ever seen. Checked the right side vs the sole for square and it was out .006 across the sole. Called Stanley and couldn't get assurance that a replacement would be any better as it would be from a fulfillment center. So I stripped it and set it up on a milling machine. Milled a test piece first then the plane right hand side ( not the sole). Hand rubbed it smoother and it is perfect

[@jesstheone231]

I have pretty much the same plane with the same blade advancement problem. I got it at Harbor Freight for $15 + came with a bonus mini-plane which I actually really like once I got it all fixed up. One issue (in addition to All of the Probs Rex mentioned) was that the holes where the tree attaches to the base were not totally bored out, so it was a little crooked overall, and not close enough to the mouth to allow much blade advancement. Also (fyi), when selecting my plane at the retail location, I carefully inspected each one to make sure I got the best chance at a decent tool. There is SO much variation between individual planes. Mouth size, for example, was > 1/2 " variance! I chose the smallest opening thinking I could enlarge it if need be. I also had to make a new handle. These are made for folks with tiny hands. Love your channel Rex! Keep up the good work. (P.S. I also bought the #33 there (which Rex looks at in another video) for same price, and I have had slightly better results.)

[@MyHouseOnTheMoon]

Got my Draper for $31 after shipping! Thanks for the recommendation!

[@brettkirby1827]

How well is the Draper treating you?

[@MrBalloonatic]

hi, i was just wondering if you ever released that video guide on which is the best plane for a budget buy?

[@tullochgorum6323]

In the UK the Spear and Jackson is painted and is the cheap model. The Draper is powder coated, so it seems to be the better model. Cost is £21, and it's branded as the Draper 45241 Expert Smoothing Beech Wood Plane.

[@quietrioter]

To quote an ad that keeps popping up every now and then for me. To all the quality stuff out of India: INDIA! INCREDIBLE INDIA! INDIA!

[@davidwillard7334]

THAT! SOUNDS !! LIKE !! GRAND !! SALE !! AND HURRY !!! ( BY THREE TIMES SAYING !! IT TO BOTH ! WORDS !! )

[@johnross4605]

Thanks for your video .I was having the same problem with my Stanley. Worked it out. Machined it square. Now I can shave my wood so thin that you can only see one side.

[@68HC060]

Remember to put your wood the right side up after shaving it then. ;)

[@anthonymiller8979]

While the hollows are disappointing I prefer that over a convex surface. It is really hard to hold the plane square to the sandpaper and keeping your grind uniform. At least with a hollow it will not rock side to side and you can just concentrate pressure where you want it

[@michaellang9443]

Seems like this would've been a good candidate for the ruler trick!

[@twcmaker]

The most common problem with cheap planes.. at 10:03 the top end of the yolk that connects with the cap iron. Brilliantly put. Rex, I'm beginning to love your videos. It's these tiny details that only come through experience. Great piece 👍

[@johncaulfield8621]

Well, I'll tell ya what Rex: I bought the Grizzly 22" jointer plane for something like 80 bucks. Very flat, very square, and a solid build, but the iron was absolute junk, it wasn't even near flat. So here's what I did: I bought an IBC plane blade from Woodcraft for 40 dollars on sale, regularly 60 dollars. They have the ones that fit a Stanley/Record planes. Well I'll tell you what...Now it performs fantastic, like a 350 dollar plane and that's no BS. I absolutely loveitloveitloveit ! ! !

[@RexKrueger]

The iron is a challenge in these.

[@Ed-lz4jv]

Is what I am thinking, I want a #7 plane....I have #3thru #6 stanleys already. All of them I replaced with HOCK blades - much better :) ...may get the Grizzly #7 and do the same

[@Clem68W]

Okay...thing about the chipbreaker not being engaged by the adjuster explains many of my problems now. Genuinely helpful, thanks!

[@Arachnos27]

I remember watching this channel a long while ago, I’m beating myself up for not subscribing. Super glad I found it again!

[@thedubdon9586]

I bought a grizzly 22' jointer plane and have been very pleased with it. Got it for 55 dollars on sale and has been a pleasure to use. Came fairly flat. Flat enough to use and I was also liking the knife edge chip breaker. Seemed very quality for the price even compared to the older planes I've bought. People shouldn't pass on grizzly just because they're cheap. They have great stuff

[@phbrinsden]

I bought a few Stanley Sweatheart era planes (1930s) and fully restored them. They are about the pinnacle of Stanley development (except their Bedrocks). Really excellent castings. Buy cheap from eBay and enjoy restoring them. I also restored a full set of Stanley Bedrocks (including #2) from junk status and installed Hock blades and chip breakers. These are my users and they are awesome. During the restoration I applied real asphaltum coating which is far superior to paint or powder coating. Those Victorians knew something! You can buy #4 and #5 regular Bailey pattern very inexpensively and have the real thing. Bravo Rex for encouraging people to use handplanes. Love to see it.

[@69fcortina]

If you can find one economically, this is a great solution. For some reason, the price on some older Stanleys go through cycles where even junk ones aren't particularly cheap, at least in the US version of Ebay.

[@dreyn7780]

Notice how humans destroyed the tools? Humans are scum who destroy all tools. You’re no exception.

[@2dividedby3equals666]

I really appreciate your videos Rex. Especially the fact that you don't go out to the sponsored route, thanks for the video and take care!!

[@RexKrueger]

My pleasure!

[@torque9889]

I bought this one under Faithfull brand and splashed out on a Stanley sweetheart (modern one) an funny enough I keep going back to this for most of my work. It’s more comfortable to use an I find it nicer to adjust, I only use the Stanley for the final finish.

[@63DegreesNorth]

I missed this one, but I look forward to the Rex Premiers videos. It's great to have a bit of direct chat and interaction with a favourite KZbin creator and I spend most of the 15-20 minutes lead-in with a big grin or laughing at some of the chat that takes place.

[@RexKrueger]

I'm glad you enjoy it!

[@davidcampbell2845]

Good job. Clear, effective and accurate analysis. Thanks for your time.

[@RexKrueger]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Detstorm]

I have a spokeshave from this company, thick blade and its held up really well. Great video!

[@dreyn7780]

Wrong! You failed to communicate.

[@red58impala]

Nicely done Rex and very informative. That Grizzly looks a lot like the Taytools no. 4, and with the adjusting screw for the frog, it appears to be made by the same company. They are quite proud of their plane and their price reflects that... $80 delivered. When they first started offering their line of planes, they were much closer in price to Grizzly's current pricing. Even though I am all set with my smoothing planes, I'll keep watching because I enjoy your content. Keep up the good work!

[@YCBurninator]

I have the Taytools no. 4, and I think that it is the same plane. It's also the same design as used by Rockler for their Bench Dog no. 4 (though Rockler has the lever cap with a brass color as opposed to chrome). I have purchased both of the two planes above, and have seen some quality control issues. The Rockler no. 4 that I had was badly scraped up, had a rough and out of square frog, and just didn't fit together quite right. Otherwise, the same things that Rex saw with the Grizzly were present with Rockler. I returned that plane, as I had hoped that the increased price would have meant that the setup would have been a bit easier (I've restored 6 planes from rusty condition, but I wanted to invest less time in that one). The Taytools plane was purchased when it was just under $40 shipped via eBay and was pretty easy to set up. I have noticed the blade doesn't want to advance far enough when set up with the chipbreaker set close to the edge of the blade. This is both from the same screw issue seen with the Big Horn plane, and the chip breaker hole ending up hitting the screw that tensions the lever cap (you can see it happening at 12:40-12:43 in this video). My lateral adjuster was also off-center, so adjusting it is a bit annoying. Overall, I think this is worth it for the price Grizzly is offering the plane for, but not as much at the current Taytools price.

[@Snedesk]

Looking forward to more”real” unsponsored plane comparisons. Thanks Rex

[@somika87]

He specifically says at the end of the video that he's not sponsored by anyone except for his patrons on Patreon.

[@Snedesk]

@@somika87 That's what I meant as in thank you for being forthright and buying them yourself. No snarkiness intended.

[@subhrajit0993]

Rex you are totally awesome!! I couldn't stop myself from subscribing your channel. This is highly popular in India and I was always thinking what would experts like you would feel about this. Sobha is a small but quality tool maker and little pricey for our indian taste( we are a little price sensitive people :) or just cheap people ha ha) . Thank you again for such quality content, I have been going over your channel for last 4 hrs non-stop!!

[@Anna_and_Tiger]

Think I've seen this video 5 times. Love the content, Rex has that personality every teacher should have, he makes learning fun again.

[@dreyn7780]

Wrong! That’s like saying every electrical cable is the same. They’re not Stanley copies, that frog is record copy. Why ship the rosewood to other countries if it’s origin is India? Middlemen have no elegance to you buyers. What you expect from English tools you can’t expect from India tools. The electric plane exists and it superseded hand planes and so did machine planes.

[@frankmazzella5317]

Since I spend some time in India, I was able to buy 2 planes in India from Soba, the cost was 2100 INR about $28 USD. They were worth the set up time.

[@colinheyl7245]

Interesting! My new "Silverline" plane looks veeeeeeeeeeery very similar. And mine is awkward, getting it to advance too.

[@chriswoods7452]

It’s amazing. Silverline, Spear and Jackson, Draper.....all similar prices. I want a no.7 next, already having a vintage Acorn no4 and Record no5, but the jump from a Chinese/Indian one for £45 to an Irwin on for £120 is obviously significant.

[@RYwoodview]

Recently got the Big Horn chisel plane. Excellent quality, ready to go with a little honing.

[@watermain48]

Nice comparison Rex, thanks. While I like a bargain as much as the next guy I took the plunge and invested in Wood River handplanes for my shop.

[@MechaStreisand1]

The Woodriver planes have the same problems as the planes in this video. Don't ask me how I know...

[@watermain48]

@@MechaStreisand1 I believe you are wrong about that. Mine were made in China.

[@madhatte73]

Grizzly also sells machine tools like mills etc. A thing I have found is that tools like this where the company name is all about price point and the manufacturing is all done by one (separate) outfit, there seems to be a sorting process where some importers get first pick. For machine tools, Jet seems to get the first pick, then Grizzly, then Shop Fox etc. Apparently Grizzly is ahead of others in the hand tools line. Not at all sure how this is negotiated, but the arrangement seems pretty old. I have a 1980 Jet-16 mill drill which is a solid machine made in Taiwan. It's no Bridgeport, but for $500 it's a fine unit.

[@jamesmcbriarty2079]

I've read some good things about another Indian brand called Anant. They seem to be marketing themselves as a compromise between the entry level Stanleys and the high-end Lie-Nielsens and Veritas models.

[@70newlife]

Same one fine woodworking called fit to be a paper weight.

[@horseblinderson4747]

@@70newlife sure they did, that keeps their sponsorship and advertising value.

[@andreashofmeyr9583]

Thanks - probably saved me a lot of money.

[@Claud_AdderHive]

I bought an old indian hand plane for 25$ on a flea market that looks very similar to these. After a bit of sharpening, cleaning up the rust, and very little flattening it works wonders

[@BensWorkshop]

The Silverline no 4 is available in the UK and is very similar to the Big Horn and is available from Amazon for around £10 ($13) and around £14 from Toolstation for those interested. Probably in the made in the same factory. I also have a review on my channel. It doesn't have the same issue with the adjuster that the Big Horn though. One issue though is that if you have the chip breaker down to far then you do not get enough travel.

[@RexKrueger]

That's a common problem with these budget planes. Drives me crazy!

[@BensWorkshop]

@@RexKrueger It's odd, in that all they'd need to do is move the hole up the chip breaker a little. I also have just acquired a no 4 Marples plane, which though in poor condition does have a Marples blade. They are very very good.

[@adityamuley87]

Shout out from fellow woodworker from India! :)

[@RexKrueger]

Any interesting tools or techniques from India that the rest of us should know about? I'm always interested in how other cultures do it.

[@adityamuley87]

@@RexKrueger check out this article. medium.com/@helpmebuild/traditional-indian-furniture-designs-and-techniques-ae325e5a459b Look at Jaali style of wood panel. The net pattern helps have air circulation in hot climate while giving privacy to your windows or doors.

[@ThePillenwerfer]

That Big Horn looks very like Axminster's Rider range, having the same straight knurling on the adjusting screw and the body sides that are halfway between Baileys and Bedrocks. I've heard good reports of those too. The Grizzly looks like Silverline's.

[@Canalcoholic]

Just taken delivery of an ‘Anant’ brand no.6 to use mostly as a shooting plane. For 33 British Pounds (approx. $45, inc. shipping) I have to say that I was favourably impressed straight out of the box, and after just 30 minutes initial fettling I’m already getting full-length onion-skin shavings from Pine. Looks like it came from the same factory as yours.

[@joshuamacdonald4913]

I have an old hand plane I bought new a number of years ago. I think it was made by these guys.

[@classydays43]

I bought an Anant block plane that was made in India about a year ago. It was poorly finished and needed a bit of TLC to get it working properly. Fortunately the body is very thick so honing the faces and reshaping the adjusters didn't compromise the structure. Now it's beautiful and should last me forever.

[@GregWallis]

Good stuff and really interesting. But how about a video on budget jointing planes? Or does no one really use these anymore? Many thanks.

[@RexKrueger]

I use jointers all the time. I like wooden ones. Rather than buying them, I think we'll build ours!

[@perrinekld7451]

Indian/Pakistani handmade stuff in general has great value for price, with huge quality potential.

[@zhiccai]

Thank you so much for talking about the those 2 planes, i was very puzzled by those 2 planes; and wasn't sure if they were worth it.

[@borjesvensson8661]

A hollow in the middle of the iron is not really a problem as long as its flat from where the chip breaker meets the iron

[@arnehermann3417]

Thanks for the info Rex! One criticism, and not a big deal because you were just "testing", but Rex, when you were testing the jack plane on end grain you were planing *PARALLEL* to the face of your vise which caused the board to move! Much more control can be achieved of course by planing perpendicular to the vise face (i.e. "toward" the bench").

[@ardvarkkkkk1]

Arne Hermann Or just tighten the vise.

[@casimircreer2295]

I've gone for the Faithful No.7 jointer in the UK. £48 including delivery. Let's see how it holds up.

[@DHM_Creative]

Not sure how you did it, but I’m addicted to your videos 🤘🏽😆♥️ I’m always coming back and i just kinda tinker with wood work 😅

[@0ddSavant]

I bought a Grizzly based on you’re recommendation. Oh man, I should have done this sooner. It was so much faster and easier to set this one up, and it’s just works. Good looking out!

[@gazpal]

An easy fix for adjusting for a heavier cut is to adjust the chip breaker/cap iron further back from the cutting edge. This allows the blade give a heavier cut without any major adjustments to the cap iron or it's screw, as you only realistically need to cut very slightly deeper. Another adjustment you can make - to obtain a heavier cut - is to camber the cutting edge more heavily, but this tends to be reserved for use with the jack plane #5. Best comparisons can be drawn if checking measurements/dimensions used by makers such as Stanley and then compare these with the cheaper planes in this video.

[@brucknerdevilliers]

Thank you for your informative and often funny videos, Rex. I live in Cape Town, South Africa and for some inexplicable reason there are almost no hand planes available from any supplier in the country. However, this morning I visited a very smart shop called the Hardware Centre and immediately they showed me the Soba range. I did the sole square test on the No. 4 - fail, but the 4 ½ passed this test. They also showed me a Veritas No. 4, but at more than double the price of the Soba and then I'd still have to part with more money for a blade! Nuts! The Soba range looks very similar to the Grisley in your video - powder coated, with matte coated handles (shoe and foot?), knife edge chip breaker, but the cap is made from brass. Anyway, after negotiating a discount, I took the plunge and bought the 4 ½ for about $100. I'll start preparing it tomorrow. Keep up the good work.

[@guyjones4936]

I love this review. I purchased one of the Grizzly #5 planes in the same line and I couldn't be happier with it. The only #5 I own that is better is my Bedrock that was my Great Grandfather's.

[@charleskyler1928]

What about buying a used Stanley #4 or 5, and to sided diamond plate for about the same cost. Refurbing an old plane takes the same skill set as adjusting then new planes. Just a thought. Cheers.

[@RexKrueger]

Many people cannot find old planes at all. They need new tools they can just order on the internet.

[@charleskyler1928]

Rex Krueger I was thinking EBay, like you’ve mentioned in some of your other videos. I’ve also found that most people have a grandfather/dad/uncle that have/has one that is free for the asking. I’ve done a few demos on how to get them back into working order. Many were never fettled to begin with and are in like new condition with minor surface rust and white paint streaks from when they tried to plane a door edge and failed due to a factory edge. You know the story. Keep up the good work.

[@getenlightened]

So, where's the "end of the summer, big shoot out, testing video" ??

[@nikburton9264]

I bought a cheapo Harbor freight from the store in Lima, Ohio. Not square at all and just...rickety. But the iron from it was good. It took forever to sharpen cause the steel is so hard, but it will shave padauk, pau Amarillo, and bubinga, and it needs is a bit of stropping to put it back to razor sharpness. I picked up another one (harbor freight) at a yard sale and the iron was garbage, so, they aren't consistent. But the iron on first one was worth the time and effort to make a wood body. The rest are on the scrap pile, although I'm thinking I may want to try re-tempering the iron from the yard sale plane..

[@animematt99]

I recently got one from Irwin. The iron was so soft it bent and curled after a couple passes on some oak. If the recent ones from harbor Freight have good Irons, maybe I will see if they will fit in it.

[@drawlele]

@@animematt99 he did say they aren't consistent and no I bought one from harbor freight about two months ago, Jack and block combo for $17 whole thing sucked, iron was hard as hell but the cutting edge was at a 15° angle, block plane wasn't so bad but $17 for a block plane is silly

[@LilyJaneH]

I have had good luck with the Taylor Toolworks planes. Both of mine came very flat and pretty well set up. I still need to do a little polishing and some maintenance is overdue, but I really love them.

[@rex8255]

A guy named Rex. Who figured things out. SOUL BROTHER!

[@RexKrueger]

Brother indeed!

[@robertnewell5057]

faithfull is also available in the UK

[@skevincampbell]

Hey Rex, I saw you flatten that plane in what seemed like a few minutes. I'm working on an old Stanley Defiance #4 and it is taking forever.

[@VinlandAlchemist]

Another excellent vid, Rex! I can't tell you enough how I really appreciate how in-depth the information you provide is... to be able to tweak a tool from frustrating to more than satisfactory is really quite invaluable - oh, and those planes... excellent find! Thanks so much for this ^_^

[@RexKrueger]

My pleasure!

[@timothyplumley6004]

I have a cobalt 8inch and all the problems mentioned are happening with it. I have a 1895 Stanley no4 and it works great... and I also have a 20 in wooden jackplane? I don't know but it's my favorite and boy is it good sturdy block of wood.

[@RexKrueger]

Yeah, my old wooden jacks work great and very little can go wrong with them.

[@robohippy]

I bought a little blue Stanley #4 plane for $8.. It was one of those that did not 'adjust' well go lighter and/or deeper cuts. So, I tinkered with it, a lot. Over a couple of months of trying to figure it out, I found the culprit. First, I popped out the pins holding the yoke for advance/retreat, and the side to side lever. Then I took the main surface of the frog over to the abrasives on my table saw bed. It was '''WAY" out of whack, so I ground it flat. Put back in, and pretty much the same thing. I then resurfaced the part where the frog sits on the plane. Again, a little bit better, but still not good. I then determined that the mating surface on the plane body had a crown to it, as in convex surface. I used some 80 grit on a flat piece of wood with double sticky tape, about 2 inches wide by 12 or so long. I couldn't fit a file in there because of the raised spot on the back of the plane body for seating the handle. I put a riser block on the other end to keep my abrasive surface flat/parallel to the bottom of the frog. Eventually, I made that part flat, and now the plane iron moves easily, the way you want them to do.

[@ricsanders69]

Wow....one of the best hand-plane videos that I've ever seen...thank you! I have several old Bailey-Stanley hand-planes that I've restored and they serve me quite well...I wouldn't mind getting a few modern one...I've just not found any for the right quality AND price...maybe I need to look again.

[@grumpyoldsodinacellar3518]

My main beef is the amount of free play in the adjuster wheel fork, I corrected this by making a thin brass plate, cut from an old lock, and bending it around the divet, this was secured in place with a drop of super glue.

[@SirAngusSteele]

As of right now 3/25/22, Draper is the cheapest on The Amazon at $38.77. Thanks, Rex!

[@jbc175]

I got the grizzly and like it. I've seen several other planes in my price range and this was much better than the others that I saw.

[@matthewbonnet4402]

The sole of these planes seems to be a batch by batch situation. The Grizzly 10" I just got was significantly bowed out in the center, enough that it would rock on flat glass, with a ton of sanding later and it's nearly flat. The rear handle bolt was just barely short enough to hold the handle firmly, if the wood shrinks at all I'll need to shorten the bolt. Everything else was the same as your review.

[@RexKrueger]

It's unfortunate that for at this price point, really good quality control is just not possible. But it's nice to hear that your problems were fixable.

[@sripal.jain4]

Friend - I appreciate your deep knowledge and observation into the subject

[@dreyn7780]

Wrong! Real buyers by 3 of each.

[@johnbesharian9965]

@@dreyn7780, Hmm. I can't seem to find any of your torture test, comparison tool videos on the internet. Do you have any?

[@dreyn7780]

@@johnbesharian9965 oh, so you’re playing the human surprise game. You’re reported to the authorities for hate speech. You really hate people.

[@shawnpitman876]

@@dreyn7780 You have got to be the dumbest person I've ever seen capable of even writing a sentence.

[@JJR1476]

Never thought Indian made plane could live up to your expectations. Thanks for the video . Cheers from Haryana , India.

[@RexKrueger]

The Grizzly TOTALLY lived up to my expectations. Do you hear about Sobha planes in India? Are they popular?

[@JJR1476]

Never heard of it , dear Sir..

[@arpitagarwal82]

@chandraguptawillruletheworld xx Its Soba. Shobha is different company.

[@subhrajit0993]

@@arpitagarwal82 nope it's same. This is quite popular 😂 in india if you are a handtool worker. almost every indian diy woodworking group I am part of , praise sobha or soba highly. I have 4 planes and so does many from the group. While I am no expert, every expert in the group praise all of their planes barring the low angle Jack plane which even Rex gave bad review.

[@nunomiranda4262]

And the world's greatest tractor manufacturer and exporter.

[@op25ttfd]

I am so glad to see you finally got to the Grizzly. I plan to buy their jointer plane since I have a 4 and 2 #5's

[@dreyn7780]

You aren’t being social here chum. Explain yourself. Who are you? Why should we listen to you? Then you wait for a response. Okay!

[@op25ttfd]

@@dreyn7780 what the hell are you talking about?

[@sdcofer52]

If you aren’t familiar with Grizzly you should take a look at a very interesting documentary about the company. A self made immigrant to Canada with a passion for engineering and providing reasonably priced woodworking tools and machinery. I believe he is from India.

[@mikemorris9838]

Have you tried the "AmazonBasics" brand planes or chisels at all?

[@anandbrito]

I own an English record n. 4 with the same kind of frog adjuster. I think it was the last model produced by the brand in the 80's.

[@joshuas1767]

I appreciate the fact that you test out the cheap import (or knock offs) that most of us could afford, but aren’t willing to risk wasting money on potential garbage. You should look into a harbor freight power tool review. They have actually been trying to move from the cheap throw away stuff, to more reliable tools over the past couple years.

[@oliverdelica2289]

Yeah but, Rex is more on hand tools these days

[@craigmonteforte1478]

The close ups of the planes give me flashbacks of my Childhood when my Dad went to work and i was a kid i used to go into his Shop ( our Basement ) and clean and organize his tools for him one of those days i tried using his Handplanes on a scrap board and tried to adjust it using the knobs before i knew it i had it completely apart and had no idea on how it went back together correctly I panicked and just half ass put it all back together so all the parts stayed with that Plane Dad never did ask me about that as i assumed he simply put it back together correctly after i saw him using it on the next project I ronically for myself i wound up becoming a Professional Woodworker for over 20 years later on in life where i learned how to refurbish old planes and how to take them apart and put them back together correctly Of course Professionally we mostly used power tools to build most of the projects we made but occasionally i still enjoy hand planing on certain projects and have even made special projects or gifts using only hand tools for that one

[@dreyn7780]

You’re not being social here.

[@Filthybiker]

Thank you for a great review as usual. I return several times ac week. I wish you could try the Busy Bee Tools Planes.

[@adamswire9152]

Late to this, apologies. In my experience, many companies in India sub contract out the work to small workshops. They have a central company that does the international marketing etc, but the manufacture is piecemeal. The more sophisticated ones recognise the differences in quality and brand and price the products differently to reflect this. The others do not which makes purchasing a bit of a lottery! But people like you review the models and really help us to make the right choice, so thank you.

[@RexKrueger]

That's very interesting. Soba appears to do most of their work in-house. They can cast iron and heat-treat steel.

[@pulsehead]

I got a buck bros plane at the homer despot that looks a lot like the bighorn one. Thanks for the tip to shorten the handle screw because I cannot get mine to stop wiggling!

[@RexKrueger]

I think buck sticks their name on a bunch of stuff.

[@markdomansky7046]

Kobalt has a 10" plane for $35. It would be great to get a follow up comparison of something available in the local home improvement store.

[@RexKrueger]

Let's just skip it: these planes are better and only cost a little more.

[@th3b0yg]

There's some good whiskey coming out of India these days also...

[@bobharrison2212]

Eerrrrrr no whiskey comes from Scotland not India

[@th3b0yg]

@@bobharrison2212 I think there are some folks in Kentucky and Tennessee who'd disagree. And Ireland. And Japan. I love a good, smokey Islay Scotch, but Whiskey is a medium that many artists work in.

[@JJR1476]

True...!!! Try Amrut single malt sometime.....🥃

[@jasonnoble2470]

I turned my 12-404 into a scrub plane. With that none adjustable frog and wide throat with a moderate camber on the iron you con hog off material fast.

[@mathewdorsch6398]

I'm lucky to live in the same town as Grizzly HQ. No shipping costs!

[@dreyn7780]

You failed to be social.

[@maskedavenger2578]

I had an Indian copy of a Stanley no 4 years ago ,the cutting iron was sloping at a steeper angle than normal ,but it still worked pretty well .The other thing I noticed it weighed a lot heavier than a Record ,Stanley or the French makes .I Indians don’t make refined tools ,but they are oK in a rough & ready way & could be picked up new in U.K. markets for a few pounds .I even seen solid looking twin pinion Indian hand drills in pound shops for a £1 in U.K. .Also I have a set of Draper combination spanner’s ( USA wrenches ) which cost £5 made in India dropped forged used many times still going strong like new .40 years old .Snap on don’t last that long without having to be exchanged several times .

[@samuelbrisseau2694]

Just bought the Big Horn one, branded as Silverline, for 22€. I can correlate the good body geometry, the wobbly handle & the heavily tool marked cut iron.

[@somersetnewsnetwork2198]

When I started work 47 years ago, we hade to make our own planes and spoke shaves. I lost the plan but still have the spoke shave.

[@adrian_barreto]

Watching this as the 3rd hour of 9th august 2021 unfolds.. Really amusing to listen to the explaination.. But reason i gate crashed here was to find out and listen to another history lesson on woodworking tools and wood related info..

[@SirRawThunderMan]

By sheer luck, I've found the same smoothing plane in a £35 smoothing/block plane boxset from Faithful. The block plane isn't great, but it's good to know that the smoother has potential with a little TLC.

[@263kiki]

DAM Rex you are a beast for making these quality content, finally put my foot down and bought the Chinese wood plane from your other vid, can't wait to start working with planes for the first time! Keep up the good work man you got sub.

[@TheBearGrylz]

HEY! I just wanted to tell you that I successfully tuned a cheap GREATNECK 9” hand plane. I love your videos and have learned many things. I know that you didn’t really like this plane, but I spent about three hours honing it and fixing that garbage chromed chip breaker. It works like a champ now! Def one of my finest shaving planes at the moment. Just wanted to let you know that it is in fact possible. I solved the adjustment issue by resetting the chip breaker to the iron. Also ground the play off of the chip breaker threaded hole. Much love Rex. Thank you for all of your tips.

[@dreyn7780]

Humans are now ANTISOCIAL. 4 months and nobody commented. Most people never even see comments anymore cause the smart TV doesn’t allow it. Go back to ballroom dancing cause everyone here is scum!

[@markharris5771]

I’m glad you manage to get to try a Faithful even if branded under another name. I only have one my #7 and I couldn’t be happier with it, but it’s more in the style of the Grizzly. Speaking of which, surely Grizzly Power Tools can’t be happy about the trademark infringement.

[@RexKrueger]

Oh, it's the same company. They sell EVERYTHING.

[@markharris5771]

Rex Krueger I always thought the Grizzly bandsaws etc were American, you learn something every day.

[@RexKrueger]

NO WAY!! Grizzly is just a distributor of Asian-made tools. Some of them are very good, but nothing is made in the US.

[@jiidee]

I have Faithful planes and my no4 has the the same issue with the adjustment yoke being too short. I bought some loose stanley cast forks off evilbay and replaced them.

[@RexKrueger]

That's a good solution!

[@keirfarnum6811]

Bridgeport. The ultimate. Expensive but they’re amazing.

[@RexKrueger]

No argument from me!

[@gregvaneeckhout1877]

Interesting good video, I had on a whim ordered a couple of India planes because they were cheap and looked good. I had the same trouble as you did with a Draper #4 plane and with the cap iron screw bottoming out in the slot on frog preventing it from even coming out enough to cut wood. Then I have the opposite thing on a #3 spear and jackson plane, the mechanism would not retract far enough to keep the blade from sticking out, at least that was an easier fix. Thanks again for your great info and fun presentations.

[@mattv5281]

I have a 9 3/4" version of this plane branded by Rider. It has the stamped chip breaker, better adjusting mechanism, and appears to be painted. I got it at a local hardware store for $46. The part of the shoe where the iron rests wasn't quite right, so I had to adjust it to get the iron to sit flat. But otherwise it's alright. It took more work than I'd like to set it up, so maybe no should just save up for nicer tools that are good out of the box.