AMD Ryzen 5 9600X Review: great performance, low power

[@BrookesStevenson-vw4xf]

Why are more people not commenting on the excellent power draw characteristics like Leo ? Seems everyone just loves to be negative all the time. As an upgrade I’d probably not do it if I had a last gen already in place. But AMD are certainly nailing power optimisations. A massive improvement.

[@dreadtrain2846]

Because power efficiency isn't exciting. Give me performance with it, or gtfo. Especially when I can get the previous gen chips for a lower price and equal or better performance. Paying more for nothing but a little better power efficiency isn't my jam.

[@daunted232]

Low power draw seems like something that would matter over the long term. I don't think most people are thinking that far ahead.

[@hairsprungdutchtechnique9626]

@@dreadtrain2846 This is exactly the mindset we need to think deeper on - less power, means cooler, more overclocking, less heat. better stability . its exactly what intel CANT do ! I think its great to see AMD focused on this. I agree, I probably wouldnt sell my 7600x, but as a platform to build upon for the future its a massive step forward. This is why a lot of people were excited about Qualcomm and now AMD are in the zone in mobile on X86 without emulators. its brilliant

[@huzaifavawda8383]

@@dreadtrain2846 this is the problem with the world, more power, but no more consevation. People like you should be banned

[@EricDavidson-cx7bz]

I think the desktop market, people are just after performance and nothing else - its what has gone wrong with Intel - pushing too much power through the silicon and its failing. AMD are just showing people an alternative. I dig it.

[@pogologo]

Cant wait to see the new 3D chips in the coming months using similar architecture, thats where the performance will be at !

[@The_Dude_Abides117]

ME TOO!!!

[@pogologo]

@@The_Dude_Abides117

[@The_Dude_Abides117]

@@pogologo I am waiting on the 9950X3d and an RTX 5090.

[@pogologo]

@@The_Dude_Abides117 okay!

[@allensmall5448]

Thanks Leo, bit surprised you gave it such a positive review overall, but I can see potential for overclocking due to power draw and optimisations

[@ZaPirate]

lovely review and good overview of chips from similar price bracket. Looking forward for the 12 and 16 core chips.

[@KitGuruTech]

Thanks, we are too

[@Krimicu-ci6cn]

AVX-512 is pretty cool especially if you need to do some x265 encoding.

[@CautionMP40]

A very interesting angle to see re power efficiency and watt per core etc- I loved the new Ryzen laptop processors and how they are tackling qualcomm very well on an X86 level without emultators

[@hothardwareforthewin-he4fz]

This looks great - cant wait to see the other reviews as well. still watching, but the power characteristics are superb!

[@canarychrome7012]

Thanks for the work Leo. Seems like a good power efficient stock out the box

[@Itsameamario-ns3se]

If they sold it at 300mhz higher it would have kept everyone happy. At least that’s easy to do in Ryzen software. Seems to have massive headroom with a good cooler imo.

[@dgillies5420]

TLDR; Don't upgrade from 7000-series, or 5800x3d, but if you have a 5600 or 5600x, the new processors are much faster and much more efficient and upgrading is a good idea ...

[@elpman001]

This should be a good upgrade for a 5700X as well.

[@lanelesic]

I got an R5 3600 and now its the perfect time for moving to AM5 so the 9600x is the cpu for me.

[@rattlehead999]

The 5600 consumes less power than the 7500f, 7600, 7600X and 9600X.

[@magikarp2063]

No, why would someone go for 9600X when 7600 is within 5% of it and costs what, 30+% less?

[@hannes0000]

I'm moving to am5 from i7 10700k is it worth for me to get this newest chip 9600x or older gen 7700? Gaming is 90% of PC usage

[@jameskane6273]

Thanks Leo, interesting to hear your thoughts - controversial thumbnail, I like it !

[@ranjeetraikwar5265]

A channel that doesnt put flames and explosions in thumbnails and who understands the real reasons for this processor - not to get the maximum fps in a game at cost of power

[@terrylaze6247]

Yeah but then why didn't he use the 14600t (35 up to 92W ) on a locked mobo?! Just because the thumbnails are ok doesn't mean that the comparisons are ok.

[@Berserkism]

It's beating the 14900k or matching it in a lot of titles, what the hell do you mean "not to get maximum fps"? Seems to be doing great!

[@LucyME-mo9rl]

Love how Leo just happens to have every CPU in the world on his desk.

[@KitGuruTech]

🍺

[@Debbiebe-hp1gx]

AMD have just made their platform a lot more desirable with this refresh.

[@SHREYASH_YT_009]

Great review leo, liked your approach on this one

[@KitGuruTech]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@RochakKasyap-zf4re]

Really good to see Leo focus a little more on the cooler running silicon. Amazing people havent learned from intels failure on hot running nonsense to see this is a sign of whats to come from AMD

[@valrond]

Yeah, it sseems that it doesn't matter if it's 200W+ and hot as fuck as long as the bar goes high. And then the CPU disintegrates.

[@karlos1060]

Keep eating all the AMD bull they tell you. Real facts don't matter anymore. You thought Intel only has stability issues? Intel has it now and will fix it. AMD always have it. All of their Ryzen chiplet cpu's have that from day one. And ILDE power consumption is also something all those tech tubers are not telling you! Intel's worst IDLE powerdraw cpu is the I9-14900K with 7,7 watt including chipset! AMD bestis the 5800X3D with 11,45 watt and the 2nd best is Ryzen 7 9700x with 28,24 watts! The ryzen 9 7900X uses 41,11 watts!!! But hey be happy with the time you use it all core then it will be less using...LMAO. Intel does up to 8x times better with their I5-14600K using 5,17 watt idle compared to 41,11 watts of the 7900X...

[@nitroexpress9928]

@@karlos1060 tech tubers don't tell idle power draw of desktop processors because nobody cares about it.

[@mihairomulus2488]

@@karlos1060 i love this userbenchmark ass comment

[@karlos1060]

​@@mihairomulus2488 No it's not usersbenchmark, but real from myself. I bet you never downloaded a programm like HWINFO , cpuid hardware monitor aida 64 ect...because if you would do you know you are a fool. My Intel I7-14700KF with 4 chrome tabs open and watching KZbin uses between 7.5 and 15 watts and average around 11 watts. But please please for the love of God buy AMD so Intel and Nvidia cna't raise the price through the sealing!

[@luigi8210]

Good to see some positivity around this launch for a change - was going to laugh at this review, but after watching it there are some good points made, especialy at the end about gaming

[@Madhav77430]

People only see the short picture - who buys one of these for hardcore gaming anyway, as Leo said in the closing arguments. this is a great design surely to be adopted in the higher end stuff

[@honeysandhuhoney344]

If I was buying a new CPU in this category id want this price to drop more, the 7 series hardware is cheap as chips. Good to see leo placing a focus on efficiency, many forget about that its importan

[@flummi6966]

good info, keep it up

[@lemonshark7280]

The pros of zen5 is : Cheaper "MSRP" Runs way cooler Runs way efficiently Performs a little better then zen 4 Cons: Zen 4 can be had for less 7800x3d is still relevant (for gaming) Not a huge uplift from zen4 however zen5 should've been zen4+ I don't know honestly Overall this is atleast better then the re branded intel 14th gen that gave us nothing but more heat and energy The biggest thing about zen 5 is efficiency and being way easier to cool which means you can probably push it hard who knows what the 3rd generation of vcash will be

[@theonlyredspecial]

Agree !

[@Totel_vidos__001]

I am not so bothered about the power draw, as it would save cents a year, but its showing AMD are making progress with efficiency and power per core . roll on the new 3D chips

[@Penfolduk001]

Is that US Dollars Cents or Euros Cents? I think you'll find outside the USA, the cost of electricity is a larger consideration.

[@mondodimotori]

Well, it depends. If you work with the PC, and have the CPU at 100% power draw for hours and hours, the difference starts to become relevant.

[@blackbeanburger3357]

the fact that you can just air cool these is awesome.. and opens up a lot of options with itx builds

[@Andrew-ks7zj]

Good CPU, I like it, prices need to drop for it to be a good decision

[@SarahBytesBack-s4e]

Thank you for the detailed review, leo! Great as always! 😁

[@KitGuruTech]

Glad you liked it!

[@lyntonbell7604]

Good for efficiency and SFF builds, also a great precursor to 9800x3d

[@sushil_gaming09]

Thanks Leo, appreciate all your hard work as always man

[@KitGuruTech]

I appreciate that!

[@JonathanPilson-mu3rg]

Thanks for the findings Leo. Some of your results are very positive.

[@quester34]

Great Review Mr. Leo! Finally Someone That Enables PBO and Lets These Processors Show What They Can Do! Gained A Up Vote And New Subscriber!

[@grayson8414]

Leo, I thought you were an Intel fanboy,. not an AMD shill !

[@Praireboy-hg8ip]

Good review. Seems like 2024 isn’t all bad news

[@alrizo1115]

It's half full

[@bodasactra]

Once again AM4 shows its incredible efficiency, versatility, and performance stealing the 9000X show. The Ryzen 9 5950X is legendary for it's unrivaled efficient, cool, and powerful, productivity performance and the Ryzen 5000X3D series continue to contend with the latest, most expensive, offerings from both AMD and Intel. The AM4 platform is solid for years to come, props to AMD for this crazy amazing achievement. Thanks Leo, great vid.

[@chapstickbomber]

Nice 5GHz boost on all cores in Cinebench at stock on the 9600X

[@MegaSegawa]

Please take price/performance into account. This should be the main factor when reviewing a product...

[@PrashantChturvedi]

Thanks Leo, always good to hear your views, fascinating to see your views

[@DavidLeBon-qq9vr]

AMD are working hard to reduce power demand. 😮

[@degroot50]

awsome Leo, great CPU. Now the price has to go down a bit and I'll buy it. Have a 8600G now.

[@darrk_matter]

One of the benefits of older bros’ like Leo’s, Wendell’s, and Gordon’s reviews is that they’re too old to entertain any BS, they just tell it how it is, and they do so thoroughly. Thanks, Leo 💯

[@Onmoneyline]

Very impressive.

[@feliksdzerzhinskij800]

Since I'm jumping from i7 4700 and Windows 8.1, I'm getting the 9600X with B650 motherboard. I'll build everything by the end of this month.

[@bigno1900]

think the performance is overall okay but suffer in terms of gaming comparing to a 7600x vs price paid.

[@EddiePo-zw7zu]

There a lot here but Im not sure if that would get me to upgrade from zen 4. Might wait it out till zen 6.

[@robertlawrence9000]

Good review! Good points!

[@KitGuruTech]

Thanks!

[@goranstewart4726]

I respect Leo and Kitguru but I don’t agree with your opinion about the new zen 5 CPUs. Did your trip to AMD give you rose tinted glasses? I’m not an Intel lover, I have various systems with 14900k, 12600k, 7800x3D, 7700x, 7600, 5950x and 5800x3D - I just want to see greater improvements after 2 years.

[@brasiliafc2138]

5950x Still a great processor for productivity ....

[@KitGuruTech]

agreed!

[@mdqmusic9]

Great new architecture, but its too expensive for what you get IMO, the 7 series is very cost effective and I get the power savings too

[@janbenes3165]

Yeah, but that's always like that since 5000. AMD releases new CPUs that are price/performance not competitive with their old stuff, get the "must have the newest things" crowd to buy it up for premium, and then slowly lowers the price over time until it becomes the best price/performance. I'm not expecting any different now.

[@mdqmusic9]

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[@adrienmeesemaecker2054]

great video but why 7800X3D dont appear in charts ?

[@KitGuruTech]

For the same reason the Core i7-14700K isn't in the chart which is price however both those CPUs are in the Ryzen 7 9700X review which is due tomorrow. Leo

[@CrazyTechLab]

Well done Leo

[@Angel7black]

I think people forget that the 7600 and other non X skews exist which was basically almost just as fast as the X variants and had almost the same power draw of these new Zen 5 CPUs. Hardware unboxed just reminded me of that myself and it really shows how god awful this launch is. I think its time for a lot of techtubers to stop pandering to the loud AMD but small AMD dogmatic supporters and just start calling stuff for what it is. This doesnt make Raptor Lake any less of a dumpster fire, it does mean there will be less interest in these CPUs which i guess would bring techtubers less traffic but its better to just be honest about stuff cause people can tell when something is forced or inauthentic. Nobody should be buying these CPUs, not till they drop like $150 in price. And yess i do mean $150 because you can get Zen 4 for mad cheap right now and there is literally no reason to but a 9700X or even a 9600X over a 7800X3D. Absolutely none, if power efficiency was your concern you shouldve saved money and bought a 7600 or 7700. Almost the same wattage, almost the same performance in gaming and multithreading as a 9600X and 9700X, dont get duped

[@DamnPictures]

9600X voltage under load was low, even with PBO enabled. Also, it's nice to see my 5900X still topping some chars.

[@abaj006]

Wow, extremely efficient!

[@suebailey2117]

Shame when compared to the last model its just a little faster, but id love to see this one overclocked to the limit to see what it can do , power draw would likely be similar to a stock older gen CPU

[@PCPro2017]

Those boxes made a nice audible thunk when you put them down, do the new chips come with coolers?

[@KitGuruTech]

Nope, bare CPUs only

[@antonjoantonjo5719]

Oh great they mentioned AI in their presentation.

[@albertwiersch9852]

Guess I won't be buying Zen 5 as soon as I planned too... I'll wait for the big sales to make it worthwhile (hopefully).

[@billnwa2250]

Thank You!

[@KitGuruTech]

You're welcome!

[@jamest484]

Thanks for the analysis Leo, one of your graphs looks a bit wrong with the c lock speeds

[@KitGuruTech]

One of the CPUs is mis-labelled (Ryzen 7 5800X) but that is fairly obvious. As we mention in the video some of the reported speeds for Zen 5 look like garbage however the test results are all solid data Leo

[@jamest484]

@@KitGuruTech Okay Great!

[@trevinowoods9602]

I prefer Intel but have to say this does look very good.

[@aceberganabolic]

new product new polishings

[@MilošLjubojević-j8u]

Snatched 9600x for 200e, can't be happier tbh!

[@The_Herniator]

It's nice to see how it's efficient at high loads. What about on idle and low loads like browsing and watching videos? I had to undervolt and tweak so much settings just to get cpu PPT around 15-20 watts while browsing youtube with the R5 7500f. I took about a week tuning SOC voltage and some other settings just to get the low cpu load wattage below 20 watts. Was this improved with the 9600? It was never a problem with intel chips where it consumes not even 5 watts while browsing the net.

[@EJPlayzPokemonPocket]

What motherboard is recommended for the 9600x? 🤔

[@theduck17]

Looks like overclocking is back on the menu boys! (Intel punching the air)

[@phasechange5053]

Yet we all used to praise tick tock from intel which was the same thing - Performance increase followed by a power efficiency and die shrink improvement. Now if these are working same frequency at much lower temps and power draw. I wonder if overclocking is back on the table or perhaps better PBO performance increases in for example this instance above 5.5ghz PBO vs the 7600x.

[@allyeric6112]

Really looks like this is THE version to get if you are looking to move to this platform.

[@eilegz]

Its good to see a change in paradigm, or a shift. Its all thanks to Intel pushing things to the extreme and now AMD want to dial down to be safe and thats a good thing. Now defaults its eficient and performant, you want more go and OC it but at your own risk.

[@oliverh1920]

Howe much did AMD pay Leo for this review, must have been a lot

[@leowaldock8386]

Nope far from it - heck I even paid for my IHOP breakfast Leo

[@ibrahovic]

Is it worth upgrading from i5 12400f to ryzen 5 9600x

[@stickyfingers9710]

go go AMD !

[@DaPoets]

Looks like I got a tan out there that day lol

[@PrinceGamer-bm1dp]

Its not much of an upgrade - I think leo said that, but its great to see the potential here for upcoming 3D versions of this silicon - the draw is really well optimised now to get higher clocks etc

[@kesamek8537]

Great review with emphasis where it actually matters most, efficiency.

[@bishopDavis2115]

We all need less power draw, not to save money on electricity bill, but to run cooler and quieter, with better temps. temps are not good for you, ask Intel

[@Anton-xd5zd]

So their original AVX 512 implementation was a bit misleading wasnt it.

[@CaptNemo_]

9800x3d cant wait. still on am4 for now.

[@CryptoGlows-op1qv]

Lol Leos test kit is like the highest end stuff you can reasonably get on a desktop.

[@ryanrioz94]

that breakfast photo 😂😂😂😂 anyway nice review mr Leo

[@KitGuruTech]

Thanks! 😃

[@Tantemify]

looking at the results for gaming, i rather buy the 7600x over the 9600x. it is so much cheaper for only 10 fps + less.....

[@iamahappybunny7640]

You seem to like this one. Some of the results are good with that board.

[@ryanrichardson7285]

Its not a groundbreaking CPU, but its showing that AMD are at least trying to get power down and efficiency a focus - people dont understand how important that is when overclocking for max perf

[@vikeshvikeshsigad1241]

Intel would love to make something that runs this cool and efficient. Intel fanboys galore talking nonsense. Some money changing hands, thats for sure

[@marsMayflower]

it's a 65W part? I hope it's low power.

[@dstamura]

I think AMD wil soon release a 9800X which is an 8-core CPU with 140W to 170W TDP. There is also a possibility of 9650X with 95W to 120W TDP to take advantage of what Zen5 have to offer.

[@BlaiseMiller14]

Intel will be finding some solace with these processors. AMD just went full bore on efficiency and forgot to crank performance

[@iamprogressivenpc6559]

It's not that much more efficient over Zen4

[@AszadGujjar-qz4zk]

For those looking a pure performance for gaming upgrade, its disappointing, but Leo does make some good points about the power efficiency curves and the potential soon should be great

[@danielgriffith8911]

why gamers are even LOOKING at this NON-3D version I dont know. They KNOW the 7800X3D was SO much better... of course the coming X3D will ROCK. This isnt the chip for gamers.

[@Dempig]

@@danielgriffith8911 At 4k the 7800x3d does not make sense, a 7600 will give the same performance

[@danielgriffith8911]

@@Dempig guess Im learning new stuff everyday. 188 bucks, cant beat that.

[@thetechdevil-jn1vo]

That motherboard is really good. I like it

[@khileshanant65]

Thanks Leo - liked this a lot, some good arguments for this processor - I am waiting for 3D chips, but the architecture looks like a massive step forward for AMD, poor Intel

[@KitGuruTech]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@joemarconi8375]

Quite like that aorus z790 board.

[@fanofentropy2280]

How on earth did you get a 5800x running at 5.5GHz? Or is that a typo?

[@augustomartins9516]

What's new on this one? "Oooh it's the same sh1t, but it saves energy"

[@kaseyboles30]

Server farms being able to do in place upgrades and save 1/3 the power directly and again in cooling and get a small perf bump? That is a big win. Laptops with >50% batterlife increase AND a small perf bump, again huge win. ONLY enthusiast desktops and the like don't see a big win here. Even some of those get a boost with current itx case craze and you can use a smaller cooler for those. The mini pc's that are gaining some traction also benefit from the reduced cooling need.

[@isbestlizard]

Is paying +33% worth it for a virtual EnergyStar(R) logo?

[@tomsigitura7824]

Better performance, less power and runs cooler. All round win.

[@fairycat]

Let's the Intel's next PCu line😊

[@edcoleman7019]

It's not great, it's far too expensive compared with it's direct predecessors. Why would I buy a 9600x over the 7600x or 7600, both of which are much cheaper and offer more or less the same performance?

[@ChinchillaBONK]

If AMD let the new generation be overpowered they would probably face the same degradation issues in a few years as Intel now. You can't have everything. I am happy to have decent performance with much lower power draw. Can't wait to see the rest of the line up plus the X3D chips , compatibility with higher speed DDR5 RAM sticks and the newer 800 series motherboards.

[@CatherineMitchell-br8dx]

Is the 9600X a good option for streaming and content creation.?

[@daunted232]

It can be, it depends on course. If you are using the cpu to render videos, 6 cores can be fine if you don't mind waiting. If you are earning money from content creation and time is money, then having more cores to render with will be worth it. I would say for hobbyists, 9600x is absolutely fine. If you are using gpu to render things using a built-in encoder, then 6 cores is not going to matter that much. If your thing is gaming- 99% live content, and 1% long form video, then a gpu investment is going to be a higher priority. If your gpu is barely used, then you might want to invest more in a higher cpu core count. :D

[@CatherineMitchell-br8dx]

@@daunted232 If you had an Intel core and an AMD core, would you get the same work from both? So if you were an expert, can you look at cores and speed, do the math and know which one will win, without ever turning the chip on?

[@daunted232]

@@CatherineMitchell-br8dx You can't really "do the math". I don't have all the testing equipment I would need to conduct such tests. It really isn't the biggest deal which brand you choose, they will both do the job. I wouldn't stress over a couple of %, here and there. Get what you can afford, of the modern options. You can also sell the cpu later, on eBay and such. Just keep the box and protective plastic case it comes in. Just make sure the cpu you get, is compatible with the motherboard you own. Amd + am5 socket motherboard + ddr5 ram/memory

[@SimonBennett-fw6zq]

AMD made a lot of predictions about how much better Zen 5 will be than Zen 4, how accurate would you say their presentstion stats were?

[@masonarchimedes8429]

The 9600x is going be "top of the chart" when you only compare it to CPUs that are weaker than it.

[@Berserkism]

It's matching and beating the 14900k in a lot of titles, I think for a 6 core, it's punching well above it's weight. Half the price too.

[@nykraftlemagnifique]

The gap between Zen 3 and 4 was good but the gap between Zen 4 and 5 is ... near non existent ... Zen 5 appears to be a refresh of Zen 4, just a little bit more efficient ... and now Zen 4 CPU have a lowered prices so ... what the interest to buy Zen 5 CPU now ?! Better to wait for futur gen with, maybe, a real generationnal gap.

[@kusumayogi7956]

I dont get it, where is 16 percent ipc?

[@EverSpaceTime]

probably in single thread

[@kusumayogi7956]

​​@@EverSpaceTimeLOL no IPC dont work like tha😂t

[@kusumayogi7956]

​@@EverSpaceTimeLOL IPC does not work like that😂

[@EverSpaceTime]

@@kusumayogi7956 I'm SO fucking tired of you goddamn youtube idiots.

[@EverSpaceTime]

@@kusumayogi7956 Don't you think the goddamn IPC of a P core is different than that of an E core? Shut the fuck up moron. I'm tired of you youtube fucks. Fucking children.