AMD’s New Laptops: Dumb Name, Wicked Performance - Strix Point Ryzen AI 300 Review

[@BlankDolphin]

Will the real Linus Sebastian please stand up

[@WarctaftWork]

And put one of those fingers on each hand up?

[@franciscodetonne4797]

*cricket noises*

[@dtdang0309]

I respeak! Will the real Linus Sebastian please stand up!

[@maurice7017]

legendary comment

[@Daath98]

i repeat, will the real Linus Sebastian please stand up..

[@deny790]

Real Slim Linus now live.

[@stufflike5844]

God damn it you stole my joke, take the like you gorgeous man

[@jigglycheesecake]

Soon we're getting the death of slim linus after scrapyard wars

[@NebulaHatesWatchdog]

@@stufflike5844it’s not your joke, justathought made this joke on friday during the wan show, it has 2.4k likes. I’m sure a few people saw it.

[@Gh0stCurse]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@joaquincarrillo5354]

XDDD

[@jorgedaniel9656]

Whoever came up with the dots in the graphs needs a raise, and I strongly encourage the team to find other ways to make the graphs more readable without having to pause the video to read. Off the top of my head, including brand logos or color coding the text could be an option, but I also think you could actually highlight whichever bar(s) the speaker is talking about

[@Bradastrophe]

Having some kind of ltt water mark on I think would be beneficial for sure, like the labs should do. Not that they need to. But, definitely should have a live sort of highlight or different color bar as they talk about that specific part of the graph. That would be a solid improvement.

[@incendiary6243]

@jorgedaniel9656 theyve done pulsing yellow brackets in the past, which i think i prefer. Draws your eye to the data thats relevant rather than the name first

[@numberM4]

@DarkRookie Some of the graphs only appear on screen for 2-3 seconds - you can't read all the text that fast.

[@braddles345]

Agreed. Watching this again, the dots help a ton

[@JaceMorley]

"Introducing the Ryzen AI" "What's AI about it?" "The investors."

[@monsterhunter445]

The npu whether you benefit from it depends if you do machine learning .

[@Aliyah_666]

​@@monsterhunter445Dude it's a scam to most users.

[@mahirooyama9424]

@@monsterhunter445”what apps support the npu?” “Our investors”

[@nicora1]

​@@Aliyah_666 well then it's not for most users

[@sentryion3106]

@@Aliyah_666I mean it’s not as bad as ai toothpaste since it does actually have something that can do ml better. Yea it’s grasping at straws now

[@hansgettheflammenwerfer69420]

Linus out here reviewing 2024 technology with 1994 style.

[@BayhouseLoans]

You're not lying either. I did this to my hair in 1993 when I was in 8th grade.

[@rokku87]

Riley is so funny. I don't even remember the ad he was talking about after the punch line. It's like those really old caveman Geico commercials. They were so good the actual thing they were selling got lost in the comedy.

[@kevinroosa1315]

Crash Override vibes

[@Yuriel1981]

All he needs is a sidetracked upside-down visor.

[@ToxicHorsePucky]

Hack the planet!

[@shxrpe3646]

Huge fan of the dot visuals for the graphs. Makes it surprisingly so much easier to follow along!

[@MartijnVerberk]

The white dots on the graph that indicate which products are mentioned are really nice. Way easier to follow the story this way.

[@RichardJActon]

Agreed - Might also be helpful to have little manufacturer logos on the names on the left axis labels or something - there's quite a lot of text there to keep track of which is which at a glance. Removing any redundant text for an icon might make it easier to take in at a glance when the charts are only displayed as briefly as they are.

[@halomika4973]

Just stop the video ​@@RichardJActon

[@RichardJActon]

@@halomika4973 Whilst that's obviously an option it's not a reason not to think about ways to improve the 'scanability' of the graphics so it's not necessary.

[@asterion2499]

@@halomika4973 no, that's basic graphic design readablity

[@Nostalgia_Realm]

The fact that we still have new devices with unreliable WiFi connection is mind boggling to me. I've seen that problem so many times in the field

[@Sithhy]

Also Mediatek is usually bad for Linux users

[@rokmysoxbaby]

My old XPS13 had a Killer wifi chip in it, it was the only complaint out the whole machine which was otherwise pretty amazing. I cannot fathom why Dell would not stick with a decent Intel wifi chip.

[@nicholasfaber9695]

@@rokmysoxbabya “killer” wifi chip makes it seem really good lol

[@game-tea]

​​@@rokmysoxbabykiller got bought out by intel in 2020 and uses intel cards with some branding now, they're pretty common in gaming laptops and have some silly features wireless 'gamers' might appreciate. Apart from that no different to normal intel cards. (eg. killer 1650i=ax201)

[@bassyey]

It makes me wonder why too. Even cheap phones have good WiFi connection. CHEAP PHONES! In fact nobody expects a bad WiFi chip on a phone. What's making this hard on laptops? They have a larger body to work on!

[@vincentpelletier57]

About the thumbnail: your sling is on backwards :-) The fabric hugging your body should go over the shoulder opposite your injured arm and the other side (the part closest to the camera) should go over the should on the injured side. This makes it easier to access the arm for any kind of treatment while the sling is on.

[@MrMalam1234]

Thanks for......nothing

[@ArtisChronicles]

​@@MrMalam1234 He literally explained how a sling is supposed to be used. You may find it useful one day.

[@raawesome3851]

I guess they removed the old thumbnail and replaced it

[@WTFBOOMDOOM]

@@raawesome3851 They show different thumbnails to different people.

[@Deinobi]

Thumbnail update on 8/8/24: it's now the laptop on the left with the workshop in the background and the text "Dumb but good" on the right. Good is on the line below "Dumb but" and is a yellow/golden colour

[@bahamutbbob]

Most people won't know this, but the "*groan*" is part of the chip's name!

[@malcaniscsm5184]

"Ryzen A-Eyeroll"

[@Vennnaya]

Reminds me of total biscuit and how when there was a break in a games title, he would groan.

[@R-Ei7]

Thank you

[@fakealizer8280]

i thought chip meant potato chip here

[@JoeBleaux69]

Has intel released new chips since this video aired or is the data from this still accurate and ryzen CPU’s are killing it in laptop space? Is the ai300 …is it different that ryzen 5/7/9 or ??? Or is this like a generation ahead of its other chips or ?

[@desk-kun]

Close enough, welcome back duke nukem linus

[@kena4977]

I'm here to tell you about our segue to our sponsor and chew bubble gum, and I'm all out of gum

[@univon4892]

YEAHHHHH!

[@brockpiano]

It’s time to drop tech and chew gum… and I’m all out of gum

[@atl6s]

you mean Duke Marrow

[@Durandal_17O7]

WAH

[@jacklhorton9]

The dots on the graphs are awesome. Nice upgrade guys!

[@positivepatrolleader4914]

Using dots for visualization for the graphs is genius. It makes it 10x more readable and makes me follow the content that much better. Keep it up! Whoever did that diserves a raise.

[@daviddemmers130]

They have done this for such a long time already.

[@miserablepile]

I embrace this Powerpoint and laser pointer format

[@daviddemmers130]

@DarkRookie such a bad take

[@joe_the_pro35]

I got jumpscared by that hair

[@Guellenmade]

Ur not alone 😂😂😂

[@Tryh4rd3rr]

You didn’t watch wan show huh

[@Kingcloudii]

@@Tryh4rd3rr sorry we dont all have 4 hours to watch a live show every week

[@vivekunnikrishnan6201]

Real slim shadys back 😂😂😂

[@ilamparithi.]

@@Tryh4rd3rr a considerable part of the audience do not know about the existence of wan shows i bet you

[@JBRGQ88]

I purchased the Asus Vivobook S16 AMD back in January purely on recommendations from LTT and its an absolutely brilliant machine glad I took the plunge

[@AyyyGabagool]

Im really looking forward to replacing my slow ass x86 2 hour netbook styyle machine for an ARM based one that is way faster and lasts all day. Gonna give it another couple of generations before pulling the trigger.

[@seththomas3194]

You did not purchase this laptop back in January. This chip and new design of the 16 S Vivobook was just released with this processor the AI9 H375h AMD.....haha

[@JBRGQ88]

@@seththomas3194 You know what your totally correct its impossible for anyone to own this specific 16S Vivobook because Linus is the sole owner of it. However I misscorrected myself of the back of of one of there review of the Asus Vivobook in general I purchased one back in January I stand corrected and apologise

[@wotenjoyer2777]

We got yellow haired Linus before GTA 6😭

[@samuellammers6335]

fr

[@Rmm1722]

Right 😅

[@huggs7479]

😭😭😭😭😫😫😫😫💀💀💀🔥🔥🔥

[@desk-kun]

Duke Nukem Linus

[@killergg0072]

Acer swift x 16 is better

[@RobloxianX]

It’s nice that iGPUs are now starting to be serious considerations when buying a laptop It’s good for creator laptops, since they focus mainly on CPU bound tasks. With these iGPUs, they can also play games at relatively good settings and FPS without needing heavy cooling

[@Patichu]

Congratulations on being the first comment on this video that is not about how Linus looks

[@JulietKilo-X86]

Then I shall introduce you to the freshly confirmed lovechild of nvidia: RTX 4050 4gb with a 64-bit bus....

[@dabigbadwolf5081]

if they only would launch a 4c/8t apu with a top tier igpu. something like the steam deck apu in a laptop.

[@kevinj24535]

bigger iGPUs are coming from AMD. A giant 40CU one

[@Patrick-y4d1z]

This is basically all I care about now - I'm not a content creator so the artificial benchmarks are meaningless. In real-world functions for 99% people, we've not had performance issues for years with CPUs, so efficiency has become more of the king. The iGPU however is of great interest in its ability to render graphics for handhelds and thin-and-light laptops alike.

[@deathdoor]

Even if the performance jump wasn't as big as some were expecting, seeing other reviews numbers it's true, the power efficiency improved greatly. It's really remarkable.

[@Torbjorn.Lindgren]

Upgradable Memory: According to TechPowerUp AMD has said that the Strix Point memory controller supports LPDDR5, LPDDR5x and DDR5. But even if that's true I doubt we'll see any SO-DIMM Strix Point because it's heavily reliant on memory bandwidth for the iGPU and LPDDR5/5x just deliver more of that than DDR5 thanks to higher frequencies being easier - but on the positive side the new LPCAMM2 standard means the manufacturers can provide user replacable LPDDR5x memory modules! Unfortunately it's probably going to be restricted to high-end second-wave devices given how new it is (and how many consumers doesn't know they need to be able to expand memory). It's not like we've seen many CAMM2 modules for desktop boards yet either, it's very early days for both.

[@handlemonium]

CAMM2 & LPCAMM2 LPDDR5X- 8533/9600 = 273-307 GB/S of bandwidth 🙏

[@rossjennings4755]

I was somewhat surprised Linus didn't mention LPCAMM in the video. Really hoping we start seeing it in consumer devices soon, before everyone starts getting used to laptop memory never being replaceable, ever. (Framework, this is your cue!)

[@taoying3987]

AMD Strix point with LPCAMM2 support will be the greatest middle finger to Apple Macbooks

[@handlemonium]

@@taoying3987 I think...... Strix Point = M3 Pro Strix Halo = M3 Max

[@taoying3987]

@@handlemonium i know, the point is the LPCAMM2 memory upgrades support

[@TransSwissCat]

We got a new young eminem.

[@MataNataM]

Right at the death of slim shady as well 😂

[@tomchapman128]

​@@MataNataMcringe

[@Vicol-247]

Do you​ even rap?@@tomchapman128

[@tomchapman128]

@@Vicol-247 no. Rap is awful. And Eminem is so cringe coming up with a fricking nickname for himself

[@v8rs6]

@@tomchapman128 newsflash: almost every rapper, content creator, music artist, or anyone popular, in fact, has a nickname for themselves

[@enscivwy]

thank you guys for making videos but I wanna say its insanely annoying when the video is lower volume and then the ad cuts to a higher volume audio. please normalize the volumes

[@kpolitis05]

Im so fast to the video that i see a different version of Linus

[@Rmm1722]

😅

[@saintrocketIX]

His hair color hasn't even finished loading.

[@itskdog]

​@@saintrocketIX tbf, his instructions to Luke weren't very clear.

[@The_Defragonian]

Premium Linus Gold

[@joeronaldsbricks5917]

No he just changed his hair color

[@JMUDoc]

If you were around in the late 80's/early 90's, you'll remember when every fucking thing ever made had "TURBO" as part of the name. That's what "AI" is now.

[@arnox4554]

Yeah but at least "Turbo" didn't forcibly opt me in to private data collection for their "AI learning". You know what, fuck AI in general, man. I have seen FAR more bad things being done with it than good things to warrant its existence. Why is AI even here except to fuck over the consumer and artist more while fucking over search results while providing so little of value except to shareholders? This is almost like that NFT horseshit all over again.

[@yvan2563]

"Turbo AI Pro Max" coming soon.

[@redditgalaxy1457]

​@@yvan2563 Turbo AI Pro X Max

[@ZboeC5]

@@redditgalaxy1457 Turbo AI Pro X MAX 360

[@newolde1]

They're going to start using more automotive terms like RS and GT pretty soon. I personally can't wait for superchargers and NOS injection..

[@milkyy4168]

8:32 THIS. I always hate closing my laptop because it always takes so long to reconnect. You won’t believe how jaded 2 seconds will make you until you need to deal with it all the damn time.

[@fporcelli2009]

Maybe get a chromebook. Jokes aside I plan to use an amd based laptop mostly for parsec so instability will mean instability, wish me luck.

[@avoidthevo1d]

I absolutely love that we are calling out their dumb naming scheme. Especially that giga boring "AI" in the name

[@luigidabro]

Our new AMD AI NPU 9999X4D CPU

[@manw3bttcks]

AI only matters to business data centers, for Joe user at home, AI circuitry is just a waste of power and chip area. I don't get why AMD and Intel is making a big deal to put AI in the names. The businesses that care about AI already would know if it's there regardless of the name.

[@the-banana-man]

For the graphs, I love the little dot you had on the screen to help follow what the speaker is talking about. It might be nice the make the product being reviewed a different color so it's easy to quickly remember what you are comparing everything to.

[@aquiveal]

Also stop rearranging items so it's easier to keep track of each product

[@ghosthunter0950]

@@aquiveal I mean if it's color coded then it's not that bad. they can color code the review chip with say green and all the others a different one. then highlight whichever ones linus is talking about at the moment with a different color. or even just highlight a square around all the data that is being talked about with a semi transparent color.

[@ThePerjhi]

linus is going back to his uv watercooled tubes phase again

[@Espadasilenciosa]

7:00 those are terrible news. It doesn't matter how fast and how efficient is a HW, if you can't upgrade/replace RAM its life will be shorter that it could be

[@PrograError]

[ Planned Obsolescence ] _Spongebob rainbow.gif_

[@walkinmn]

Apparently it's not true. If you look at the support page for the CPU it says it supports DDR5 ram. In the framework subreddit they're saying it can support LPCAMM so some clarification is needed

[@spdcrzy]

@@walkinmn they don't support SODIMM, which in and of itself is a problem. If they transition to LPCAMM2, that would be awesome. But why would they do that when they can just drop support entirely? -_-

[@sonicjms]

@@spdcrzy Considering the specs page says it supports DDR5 and LPDDR5X that would imply it supports SODIMM

[@spdcrzy]

@@sonicjms the two are not the same. SODIMM is a physical form factor, not a memory performance spec.

[@samuelberton3778]

I mean Hugging Face is one of the biggest NLP libraries there is, so it makes sense to include it

[@spacepxl]

Yeah I think they could do better there. The branding is stupid but the hardware appears to be legitimate. If they want to evaluate hardware performance (it's a hardware review, right?), they should benchmark the actual performance through pytorch, hf transformers, ollama, etc rather than just pass/fail on some consumer applications that either haven't launched yet, or not updated for the hardware. I mean, they criticized the software compatibility with Qualcomm too but still made an effort to find applications that did work to show a like for like comparison. If they want to benchmark tensor/neural performance they need to be comparing it against pure CPU and dedicated GPU performance.

[@JE-zl6uy]

​@@spacepxl eh... they did just fine by me. I'm hoping they contiue to just name stuff "AI" while doing as little to actually advance the cancer as possible... I barely like voice assistants. The last thing I need is an app that will just give me misinformation whenever I ask a question.

[@ts757arse]

I do a lot with AI. It's about knowing the use cases and the pros and cons. You don't read an editorial for factual information and you don't read an encyclopedia for opinions. I think stating that a model has an NPU is valid, but it doesn't need to be front and centre as it just isn't popular enough yet. Myself, I have an inference sever that does the heavy lifting and a laptop and phone that can access it. I'm unlikely to buy an NPU equipped laptop without the ability to upgrade the RAM, especially given the future of AI is having multiple small, specialised models all standing by and routing to the most appropriate.

[@Vladimir_Kv]

The problem with HuggingFace is that it is mainly a repository, like Github, that runs demos in the cloud. It does not run locally. So AMD including them in their NPU marketing at all is cringe to 11.

[@hydroptix]

Who's running hugging face models on a laptop if you're not a student studying machine learning? Source: was a student studying machine learning

[@codyrap95]

0:22 - nobody talks about the superb great scott reference? 😂

[@steveweidig5373]

Wow, this is heavy!

[@noleftturnunstoned]

Back to the Future?

[@ArtisChronicles]

​@@noleftturnunstoned Indeed

[@BrucifyMe]

The memory price comparison @ 7:50 was brutal

[@Jootunn]

AMD has confirmed that SO-DIMM and LPCAMM2 _are_ compatible, just that none of the manufacturers have chosen to use it.

[@bsdpowa]

that's Apple for you

[@clemtech3008]

The difference between the price of the memory made by Apple and the one made by Crucial is because Apple's memory is welded on the motherboard. And that increase the speed memory of the laptop... so don't just judge by the price because some sort of technologies can do a way better job on basic tasks or even hard tasks who need huge performance.

[@bsdpowa]

@@clemtech3008 everybody is "welding memory on the motherboard" what do you think Apple is the only one lmao gtfo, nothing can justify that price difference other than Apple Sheep giving them their money

[@woedendstewadpier4922]

@@clemtech3008 But all the different memory configurations have welded memory. Even if there are 2 chips welded onto the motherboard for the 16Gb version instead of 1, the price difference should not be 200$. RAM is super cheap these days, and even if they would hand solder it on the motherboard, the difference cannot possibly more than 50$. They are not hand soldering anything in their production however and the only reason why the 16Gb version is 200$ more expensive is that they can market it as being affordable while still extracting the most amount of money for the customers.

[@フジュキサイカ]

Whoever threw that clipboard at linus trusted him too much to not drop that laptop 😭

[@MihkelKukk]

they don't say how many takes it took...

[@air8536]

or how many laptops it took

[@DreDeeBee.]

Or how many bleaches it took to make Linus' hair yellow

[@1063-o3p]

I’m really happy that the battery life of laptops is taken seriously for windows devices.

[@uxiii9537]

Honestly? Im a bit disappointed by not only the naming, but the removal of replacable ram. They could have just switched to CAMM2 modules to embrace the new standard, but decided no to?

[@arnox4554]

Maybe this was in the works for a while and CAMM2 wasn't really available then? That's my guess.

[@Tsarsa]

the hair..

[@k.j.9290]

I hope he lost a bet or something.

[@schnabox]

i hope its gonna end up on channel super fun

[@llRecks]

He had to of lost the latest scrapyard wars lol

[@lurick]

@@k.j.9290 dBrand

[@relifed]

​@@k.j.9290 Dbrand sponsored him to change it

[@abeyaeger9159]

Linus tech tips is like my tech news channel. I would know nothing without these videos

[@Tylerspyler]

@5:03 I see a Papillon! In all seriousness. Upgradability is a much bigger issue than I think most consumers realize. My work laptop is an HP 850 G5. It was getting real slow and glitchy recently. For $20 us, I double the ram to 16gb and now its like a whole new laptop. I have no need to upgrade. I have compared it to our other work laptops, such as the Lenovo T series and newer HP Elitebook's. Its at least on par in real world performance for our usage. I didn't have to get a whole new laptop, and my old one didn't end up in e-waste. It cost me $20 and 10 minutes to "refresh".

[@AntonioNoack]

And if companies would just realize that 95% of programs should be able to run in 32-bit mode, which saves half the memory for most data...

[@mingyi456]

@@AntonioNoack No, most programs only save a few percent in memory consumption by running in 32 bit mode, not half like what you said. What is your source on this?

[@AntonioNoack]

@@mingyi456 A lot of data is references, and all those would only be half the size.

[@rafradeki]

@@AntonioNoack not a lot, just like 20%. And js and other dynamic type languages have all types consume 64 bit regardless if it is running on 32 bit or 64 bit, for consistency

[@AntonioNoack]

@@mingyi456 I looked for sources/comparisons, but didn't find any in my quick search :/.

[@hypertextcoffee]

re: Wi-Fi issues on AMD, I recently bought a Zepherus G14 with a 6800HS in it, crappy MediaTek chipset. I ended up just swapping it out for an Intel AX210 after a couple of days. AMD please just allow OEMs to use whatever Wi-Fi card they want to

[@ScottMyers-l1z]

I agree, if I get any laptop with a swappable WiFi card, and it's anything but Intel, it's getting swapped out immediately. MediaTek, RealTek, etc, they all just completely suck.

[@ShadowtheGod8]

I have to try this. I have an AMD laptop for a year now with 6800H, and I am struggling with network performance. It is okay for the most part but the constant dropouts, reconnection issues and overall speed changes are driving me crazy.

[@nvnh319]

Bro, it's Asus fault for soldering the MTK wifi card. Neither AMD nor MTK force this.

[@htflprsn.1001]

Haha, blame amd for Asus mistakes. Typical Asus ad buyer.

[@ark_knight]

@@htflprsn.1001 if you dont understand the problem, dont comment please. its not just an asus thing

[@cosmovg9955]

I think the hair color is for scrapyard wars😂 excited for the next episode

[@medeeps]

nah it was a dbrand sponsorship, luke bleached his hair live on the wan show

[@Tomniverse]

blonde Linus debut, we know where we are In the production timeline

[@Metal_Maxine]

Maybe a product embargo thing, because I'm surprised it was this fast.

[@willjenkins4195]

Guessing it’s a scrap yard wars idea

[@Metal_Maxine]

@@willjenkins4195 The dye job came courtesy of d-brand on the last-wan-but-one who said they are sending a big bag of money.

[@vargabalint2968]

We got Linus lookin' like Slim Shady before GTA 6

[@dan_loeb]

did a different editor handle the audio mixxing for the sponsored segment? the volume levels for linus in the beginning are a bit low, but then going to 1:13 is like a jumpscare.

[@norrby89]

Funny thing regarding the same cpu diffrent power part, here in sweden for a few years now the retailers have to list the max power for the gpus in laptops since they have the same problem!

[@Redmanticore]

european union should make it mandatory to list all necessary technical details

[@jakobsynnes5150]

I really like the pulsing pointer on the graphs, it makes it easy to follow along

[@Ornithopter470]

It's called a throbber. That's a thing you know now.

[@porklaser]

Good on you guys for calling out the Wi-Fi chips. Anyone who struggled with the Marvell Wi-Fi in older Surface devices knows what a frustrating struggle it is when you device is packing substandard Wi-Fi support.

[@monsieurlee]

Wow, battery life nearly as good as Apple or Qualcomm, good performance, good iGPU. This is really tempting. Shame about lack of SODIMM...

[@arzsupra]

Yeah... on a 78 wH battery 😂

[@maikschindler197]

6:58 Strix should have ddr5 support and therefore support for SODIMM. It is stated on there website and then was stated again on the slides released on their tech day. On The Slides it is said 2 times that it supports both ddr5 and lpddr5. it even states the frequency of 5600 MT/s. Also ram can be upgradeble via lpcamm2 which is in 1 Lenovo laptop as far as im aware.

[@Juanguar]

Just because it supports ddr5 doesn’t necessarily mean it will be sodimm They can just use soldered ddr5 Wouldn’t be the first time for this to happen

[@mihirojha4475]

​@@Juanguar soldered RAM is always LPDDR5, normal sized RAM cannot be soldered, it defeats the point of soldering it in the first place as its mostly done to save space inside the laptop mobos. Plus LPDDR5 or LPDDR5X is almost always faster than SO-DIMM DDR5, although I'll always take the SO-DIMM over the slightly faster MHz.

[@TamasKiss-yk4st]

Well, because they don't want to fall behind.. just a quick reminder, the 400GB/s transfer speed in M3 Max laptops are equal with a 8 channel DDR5 (so 8 RAM moduls..) and a PCIe 8.0 x16 slot for GPU (the GPU communicating with the CPU on that 32GB/s limited PCIe 4.0 x16 port..) And even the 120GB/s in basic M4 and the 136GB/s in X Elite is about 3-4x faster like the regular DDR5 and PCIe 4.0 x16 can offer.. remember the SATA SSD also started with "just" about 4x faster like HDD.. and check where they are now, and how many HDD and SSD are in use now.. (even if it's more expensive, and more expensive to upgrade the SSD, the HDD still lost because it's slower..)

[@maikschindler197]

@@TamasKiss-yk4st "And even the 120GB/s in basic M4 and the 136GB/s in X Elite is about 3-4x faster like the regular DDR5". That is wrong. The Memory Bandwith of DDR5 5600 MT/s is 90 GB/s. That is nowhere near the 3-4x that you are stating. To add to that the official JEDEC Spezification of DDR5 goes up to 8800 MT/s. This is faster than any memory currently in an mobile device. The total bandwith of a processor only depends on the bus-width and the memory speed. The M3 uses 6400 MT/s ,the M4 7500 MT/s, the X Elite ~8400 MT/s, Lunar Lake uses 8533 MT/s and Strix up to 7500 MT/s. All of them have the same 128bit bus so the bandwith is only dependent on the memory speed. DDR5 can easily have the same speed as LPDDR5 the only reason it doesnt is because of the trace lenght and therfore resulting worse signal integrity and because intel and amd only rate there memory controllers to 5600 MT/s.

[@Knowbody42]

@@TamasKiss-yk4st The biggest speed benefit of SSDs over mechanical hard drives is their latency (on mechanical hard drives, this is seek time). This is multiple orders of magnitude faster on an SSD. Even if it's on a slow SATA SSD that can only read/write at something like 200MB/s, the SSD will just be way more responsive.

[@dimanekon]

Hey, Linus with blond hair looks not bad at all actually I would suggest considering ombré coloring to make ends pop up better, and maybe correct a tone for a little bit so it would look more in tune with darker roots when they'll show up eventually Hope it's not some meme that I don't getting 😅 Otherwise, nice! Experimenting with the looks is great, hopefully other comments would not be toxic about it, which I doubt a little 😬

[@jayhub24]

love the dog intermission to show the racing of each processor computer - love these little "B Roll" type shots

[@ashchbkv6965]

That AV1 encoding is really enticing.

[@AngelicHunk]

9:40 Everyone, techtubers and consumers, should be asking laptop sellers to be including important specs like power limits on their product pages. Their omission is so obviously anti-consumer, and this has been too common for too long.

[@brickcat5342]

Linus has embraced the summer hair I guess.

[@itskdog]

Dbrand paid him to do it live on WAN Show 2 Fridays ago.

[@majinvegitto4238]

Basically this eliminates any argument for getting ARM Windows. The battery life difference exists but its not that huge for losing x86 backwards compatibility.

[@TamasKiss-yk4st]

True, and don't forget the Intel answer still not arrived, which will use 3nm technology from TSMC. That also should be way more efficient, so maybe even the battery life advantage won't exists, but the compatibility problem still remain for Qualcomm.

[@DementedView]

​@@TamasKiss-yk4stsorry I couldn't hear you over sound of the fans running

[@MrJustek]

@@TamasKiss-yk4st why are you hating on qualcomm? you're dead wrong here. The qualcomm chips still managed more battery life with a smaller battery. If the batteries were the same the qualcomm would have won with 3 extra hours or about 27% longer battery life, that's HUGE! The compatibility issues will be fixed as time goes on. But these new amd laptops are nothing impressive, unless you take a look at their ridiculous price tags $1,700 bucks for an old crapper that doesn't even perform as well as the macbook except for gaming.....in which case you could get a laptop with a real gpu....these amd laptops are boring trash for most people who don't specifically need these.

[@nitrobear]

@@DementedView The Qualcomm laptops are louder than the new AMD ones lmao

[@somefreshbread]

M1's had their downsides at launch too, especially for developers, but they figured it out. We're only in the first gen of these new Snapdragon chips, and as long as they sell enough to fund the next couple of gens, I think we'll be pleasantly surprised and be glad to have three fully viable options in the market.

[@stellarproductions8888]

I am loving these video's like always, but can I just say, this video has my most favorite background music I've ever heard on LTT. Honestly, the music has a very original Plants Vs Zombies vibe, and I am freaking loving it. Now, back to your regularly scheduled program, Qualcomm giving Intel and AMD a much needed bi*** slapping.

[@TheSlimeKilling_Minecart]

Why is Ron Weasley explaining PCs to me?

[@arnox4554]

I'd say he looks more like a Fred. Or maybe George more. Yeah, George always looked pretty different from Fred.

[@hompiler]

What a month! we got both slim shady and blonde linus back

[@InsertFX]

Bruh, multiverse going hard though. Stan Linus Tech Tips just segue way to their sponsor!

[@fredwerza3478]

Linus rockin' the Inter-Webs with the new fresh hair!

[@vinyminotaur2694]

We now just need Linus dressed up as Duke Nukem and it'll be perfect.

[@Krisztian5HUN]

2011 calling

[@Rollerlife]

I thought it was a wig😂😂😂 Just dieing to see the story behind the new hair due!🤭🤭🤭

[@Das_Carstel]

Good addition of the point in the graphs. It helps to focus on the part that is now important. Works very intuitively. 👌

[@Owen-zk3ji]

we finally got blond linus

[@Rmm1722]

😅

[@itskdog]

And it's all thanks to dbrand

[@thomasdorey3296]

He must been watching Eminem new music video Houdini

[@justinpearson6449]

Ikr dbrand basically got a billboard.

[@Sithhy]

again*

[@minikame2272]

Hey so uh, the Hugging Face support is actually a huge deal. More importantly a couple of icons to the right you can see that Ollama is supported. Don't overlook that - it means that this laptop can essentially self-host a GPT4o comparable experience through Meta's models right there on the machine, completely offline! My only criticism with it would be that they didn't include an installer to get people started with a local LLM in a single click. It's a huge deal for businesses who want the productivity of staff being able to use AI text generators to proof read emails etc without the liability of giving OpenAI access to business secrets.

[@inbsp]

I love how the "*groan*" is a part of an amd naming scheme now

[@MrHamof]

On up-gradable memory, what about LPCAMM? It's still LPDDR5 and should work right? Assuming any manufacturers actually put it in of course.

[@TamasKiss-yk4st]

Well, if it's still have bandwith limitation, it's not really work.. X Elite have 136GB/s, M3 Max laptops have 400GB/s, M4 already increased the bandwith with 20% (so M4 Max will get 480GB/s and that is still a laptop.. with 8-10 channel DDR5 memory speed, and PCIe 8.0 x16 speed.. where will you get 10 RAM slots in a laptop, and PCIe 8.0 slot? And didn't find any transfer limit for LPCAMM2, but based on Tom's hardware image, it's only about doubled in speed compared to average DDR5.. what is far away from the 480GB/s..) And compare the HDD vs SSD now.. they are only started with this 3-4x faster thing.. and even on a higher base price, on higher upgrade price, the SSD is more popular, and also way faster like the more transfer speed limited HDD..

[@espi742]

@@TamasKiss-yk4st We are talking just about upgradability, but even then, for bandwidth LPCAMM is still better than SODIMM. If you try to get 500GB/s on SODIMMs you will need 10 slots (compared to just 4 LPCAMM).

[@dhyaneshsingh]

Linus, damn this hair color is awesome, as good as AMD AI 300...

[@ebridgewater]

Audio levels are all over the place in this video.

[@wststreet2]

I just noticed the little pulsing circles on the charts. I've always had trouble following the charts and had to pause the video, but now I don't have to pause anymore.

[@Twenty_Six_Hundred]

AMD has always been my goto product since the early 2000s. I have stuck with them no matter what even through their struggles. As someone that mainly codes and for gaming emulation is my thing, their continued focus on improving integrated graphics has saved me loads of money. They are also very power efficient which helps as i run my PC all day everyday

[@sdbegotist]

Super Saiyan Linus can't hurt you, he isn't real. Super Saiyan Linus:

[@kobae6030]

Many people are going to miss the dbrand ad context from one of the last lmg vids. The hair lol

[@Bradastrophe]

Being a regular watcher of ltt + wan show I feel like I’m in a multiverse of Linus. One day his hair is dyed, the next it’s not, but currently it is, but previously filmed Linus isn’t. One day all these Linus are gonna make the spider man meme when they all meet.

[@Ulti1984]

THE HAIR!!! At least we know its not a wig, he would have dropped it by now.

[@calebmenker988]

Dbrand sponsored him to bleach it again

[@IFMstudio]

Welcome to late 90's, Linus

[@Redmanticore]

at least the hair was fully blonde and not the 90s frosted tips, ugh.....

[@xhydrax5320]

Tech Cupid out here making me fall in love with ryzen all over again❤

[@kofix]

Was it really vivobook s16 with the qualcomm chip? AFAIK there is only the s15 one, which I have and looks identical.

[@samtherat6]

We need soldered RAM to act like a L4 cache and SODIMM RAM to be like L5. I know it’s not always possible to get SODIMMs running the same speed, but we at least need something for expansion.

[@RadioactiveBlueberry]

It's the same RAM chips whether soldered or separate, I think difference in speed and cost is not significant enough for the added complexity. If there was a scenario where fast RAM is crazy scarce and expensive (a second covid maybe), maybe there eventually pop up a solution where something limited like 4 GB is onboard and the next terabyte is pulled of from something like DDR3 adapters for the lack of anything better. L6 would probably be just SSD at that point. For historical reference, GTX 970 already tried using cheaper and slower VRAM as part of memory configuration, and did not succeed as intended. I had that card, and almost every game never used the last 0.5 GB that was sitting there.

[@WidgyAinz]

Day 1 of asking LMG to name the screwdriver T-Shirt "Screwdriver 40% Polyester Shirt" (or just having better descriptions of what selling points are for each item, including pockets and such, I can never tell and this is why I haven't bought way more items)

[@gregh2003]

Should I spend an extra $300 for the HX 370 or it's not worth it?

[@norkshit]

i would look elsewhere, buy a last gen that has user upgradable ram / storage.

[@CyberXLolita]

11:04 dont do that, never again.

[@impossible-9579]

@@CyberXLolita ☠️

[@notCAMD]

:trollface:

[@EthylJogodo]

i’m impressed by your consistent delivery of excellent content!

[@DJ5_OVD]

He probably started watching anime icl😂

[@snorlatopus]

0:12 there's no way the M Pro chips only draw 20W?

[@dkinley334]

A piece of advice coming from a fan and it only happened once but as someone who struggles to read graphs quickly you saying multicore while the single core graph was up tripped me up

[@kevin3495]

when you're so early the comments is still filled with "what?":

[@RonKan69]

I love how Linus just says “investment disclosure” after mentioning framework and that’s supposed to be enough for people who don’t know he’s invested

[@talkingonthespectrum]

yeah I too take issue with that

[@ghosthunter0950]

@@talkingonthespectrum can you suggest what they should do instead of just complaining? what you said could range anywhere from valid criticism to some absolutely asinine complaints.

[@user-qv7rw7dq1d]

How about a visible written disclaimer during that timestamp? ​@@ghosthunter0950

[@talkingonthespectrum]

@@ghosthunter0950 a prerecorded 2-3 second piece of audio that's inserted into the video that says "investment disclosure, I have a financial stake in framework. Any mention of the company or their products are for illustrative reasons only unless otherwise implied" could even be 1.5x normal speed

[@stephen1r2]

@@talkingonthespectrum Or just a bubble or bit of floating text; "stake acquired in (whatever date) of Framework. Extra audio can be jarring

[@RobsS100]

Slightly off topic here but, I have taken an issue with AMD iGPU sector. It's not that talked about anymore but they have progressively released better and better iGPU's but only in high end SKU's that are also then sold by manufacturers with discrete graphics. Why can't there be SKU's with Ryzen 5 or 7 CPU performance with best iGPU's? Most of the time a top SKU mobile APU won't even use the iGPU as it will switch to the discrete GPU for any work load. I am aware of sites like Minisforum, however it's never the latest APU (I live in the UK)

[@IdealIdeas100]

what the heck did linus do to his hair?! Fix it! and go back to beard linus

[@fajaradi1223]

Naaah dude, we can't rearrange our char looks until we reach chapter 4. Or we had to go back and restart the game.

[@ClearLampOil]

linus turned into eminem to remind us about the hard R incident

[@WDannyboy]

Which version of the m3 Macbook pro was tested? Was it the one with 16gb of ram or 8gb of ram? Just curious.

[@tato-chip7612]

midlife crisis?

[@ddkeydd]

awful background music

[@LyroLife]

I prefer no music

[@nickfurless9043]

???

[@MateoThePro]

Literally

[@MowBTC]

Ubuntu 24.04.1 LTS - naming products can be so easy, precise and consumer friendly.

[@elementoflight6834]

it seems dbrand payed up, judging by the blonde hair

[@rahulsawhney1279]

I don’t like your new hair color.

[@kiribati1719]

ok

[@michelleland2571]

@@rahulsawhney1279 I thought he was different person

[@SquidAir]

Ever so bold😂

[@Respectable_Username]

Blame dbrand. Or thank them for the amusement. Either way, it was dbrand's fault that Linus' hair got dyed 😛

[@mamaharumi]

These Qualcomm chips (and ARM in general) are so good. I really wish we had a proper x86 emulator or translation layer. Something on par with what Wine/Proton does for Linux.

[@pedestrian_0]

nice audio mastering there

[@jeffery8168]

I tried a Ryzen 9 AI gpu on gaming at an AMD Ryzen booth, and I was shocked. Black Myth: Wukong ran on High and Medium at 80fps using integrated graphics and frame generation. Then again, the Ryzen 9 ai is one of the top laptop chips from AMD, so I shouldn't be as surprised.

[@andrecoleman9549]

No, he's not overreacting. The naming is deceptive and not just amd. Most tech companies are doing this crap! 😡

[@MrTindall]

I love how videos will just randomly have a new Linus with no explanation; first the beard trim and now badly dyed hair. I love it