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[@PointingLasersAtAircraft]

Women won't talk to me because I'm still on a 3090ti.

[@RuiN4265]

Felt that, i just got rejected because my 4090 won't hold 3GHz stable

[@csguak]

They sued me for not having quad 5090 sli

[@Ascendor81]

​@RuiN4265 you did not water cool yours?????

[@RuiN4265]

@@Ascendor81 that's what she said

[@user-tc4tz8ww1z]

The more you buy, the more you save chump

[@vincentvega3093]

That thumbnail...even AI can't make such art 😂

[@anthonygopeesingh7645]

I upgraded from a 10900k to a 14900k recently just so I can comfortably play at 240fps. Jufes is so right you need to buy things with a goal in mind otherwise you’re a victim to marketing and consumerism.

[@EzBreezy750]

Every year you need 10k pc to compete remember to use his links when you do 😂

[@rogermartin4104]

Try gray zone warfare. It’ll work it, cpu and gpu.

[@young-j731]

AMD IS THE NEW INTEL CHANGE MY MIND !

[@defectiveclone8450]

Intel.. 14nm++++ 3 to 5% IPC AMD new smaller node.. 16% IPC while using 50 to 100% less power (lower TDP)

[@m8x425]

6 generations with hexa-core Ryzen 5 processors, what's not to love? Ever notice that 75% of the people that say "iF iT wAsNt FoR aMd, InTeL wOuLd StIlL bE uSiNg QuAd-CoReS" have a profile pic of an anime girl with pink hair?

[@borisgrishenk0]

My pathetically inadequate PC hardware has left me utterly and totally impotent

[@ChrisAzure]

6:40 AMD has it, but on Vega GPU's, you can use the HBM as cache and RAM as VRAM, if I'm not mistaken, it's called High Bandwidth Cache or something like that

[@user-vsmsdos]

My goal is wanting to play Minecraft so I got a 14900KS, a 4090 and some 8000 MT ram with a 144hz 4k display. Makes me sad to know how my shit is obsolete and it's over for me already 😔

[@aleksandaraleksandrov3084]

Don't give up, there is a hope for all lost souls 🙏

[@SpoiledBadgerMilk]

First world problems.

[@SpoiledBadgerMilk]

The irony is my mother board alone was over 600 dollars and all i do on it most of the time is watch you tube.

[@user-vsmsdos]

@@SpoiledBadgerMilk I just run arch and just have 9001 neofetch screens running on all of my desktops to know how cool I am.

[@iLegionaire3755]

Get a EKG Delta Tech to cryogenic custom loop liquid cooler and you get another five years out of it because you can overclock the 14900KS to 7 GHZ and higher with a proper delid and direct to die solution before installing the liquid cooling EKG Delta TEC 2. Disable Hyperthreading on the 14900KS after 7 GHZ for increased power efficiency at higher clock speeds.

[@ShadowLancer128]

"because even in warzone there's people hittin' like 300- 330 fps now, with a maxed out 14th gen... it's like i don't know what else there is anymore..." I've been feeling that feeling for the last 3 years.

[@selmevias1383]

Both you and me brother.

[@cronto_3307]

Last build from 2016 (still running technically) AMD FX 8350, Sapphire Nitro+ AMD Radeon RX 480 8GB | 32 GB of RAM | SATA 512 GB SSD ... so 8 year old PC. Just upgraded this year 2024 to an AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D, Sapphire Nitro+ AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT 16GB | 32 GB of DDR5 RAM | m.2 SSD (Samsung 990 Pro (4 TB)). G.Skill for both computers. Went with 6000 MT to pair with the 7800X3D.

[@razben1476]

"...even with a controller " made me laugh to tears man. Great content Jufes, funny and real. Miss Lyla, hope she's doing well

[@impuls60]

IPC varies from app to app. Those with a keen eye will notice that avx 512(2x, but not used in games), and only some applications/games have gotten a slight improvement. Some games show as little at 6 percent uptick! Amd really needs good salesmen this time around.

[@killerrf]

It will be fast at ycruncher 😂

[@imAgentR]

As someone who can’t take advantage of avx512 cuz of Alder Lake, I’ll wonder what could have been optimal play for a while on rpcs3 ps3 emulation 🥹

[@DaRuckus]

Apparently PS3 emulation will see a huge boost from avx512

[@user-nc7fj5dn3r]

"Star citizen" its a game/tech demo that needs faster cpu then 14900k

[@blkspade23]

It scales up to around 20 threads, and it would like them to be symmetrical.

[@anamerican1054]

My rig is still using a Z270x board with a 4070super. It's starting to show it's age. I'm holding out for the new video cards with DDR6. I was having major problems and was going to replace last year but I was able to fix it with a new power supply and striping the OS. It still plays FH5 at 1440p just fine around 100FPS. It's been awhile since I checked.

[@aj0413_]

Will say, I always follow CPU upgrades closely cause of frametime pacing. I still remember going through 2/3 gens of CPUs till I could play DS3 with zero stutters due to just throwing more and more processing power at it

[@Kapono5150]

Really curious on the prices of X870E motherboards

[@marksantos8308]

and here I am on a 12900k; 4090; ddr4 Bdie with AW3423DWF

[@dysnXO]

if 14900k + 4090 gets around 80fps in lets say Last of Us at 4K Ultra will the 9950x3D + 5090 get around 140-160fps?

[@starlightHT]

I loved the entrance........😂😂😂😂

[@valentin3186]

8:44 that moment when used 2080ti was the most logical choice

[@georgem.6136]

Will have to see Jay's port royal test results! lol

[@iceboy1170]

My goal is to play KartRider: Drift at extremely stable 480 fps. Frame time variance needs to be

[@one_rich]

its funny you mentioned e-core only laptops, that will probably be a thing and they are already making 2 socket MBs with 2 chips for a total of 144 e-cores for server called Xeon 6700e. They will also be releasing a power hungry P-core only version of the chip as well.

[@subzbus33]

I think we're getting that direct storage thing with nvidia cards eventually? bypass cpu to load assets to GPU

[@gunslinga7077]

5800x3d is still rockin out , im big chillen right here

[@joniqst]

Word

[@shoryuag]

The goal is to max out my monitor in Nolvus Skyrim. 14700K and 4090 cannot do, because the GPU is the bottleneck. Craziness.

[@TheArcticDen]

modded skyrim is the truest benchmark

[@shoryuag]

@@TheArcticDen 1000%. I've been trying to max out a heavily modded Skyrim since 2012. SLI GTX 560Tis, GTX 970, R9 290, Titan Xp, 2080Ti, 3080Ti, 4090; all have fallen short lol

[@selmevias1383]

@@TheArcticDen Crysis 1 in full autismo is also quite a kick in the system.

[@dozilla77]

7800x3d should also drop in price later this year which is kind of insane given the already current price to performance. Given the compatibility with existing AM5 install base you'd imagine demand is already going to be high af. I'm guessing AMD will wait for the Core Ultras to drop and then debut the x3d?

[@selmevias1383]

yeah I also think the 7800X3D in a few months/years is going to be the hard value king for a while.

[@h1tzzYT]

New style? Looking good man👍

[@tonep3168]

I thought it was confirmed that the new Ryzen chips will support 8400 RAM? I heard the IF is now running at 2.4GHz. I think the caveat is that you will need an 8x0 motherboard.

[@hadleys.4869]

thats Intel with Z890 motherboards Jufes also said that the only way AMD can achieve 8000+ is setting DDR5 to a 4:1 ratio, wheras Intel 13900KS/14900KS can do 2:1 ratio at 8000+ now. Intel Arrow Lake will support faster DDR5 and be more likely to be stable at 8000+

[@vosi88]

Good hair and beard decision mate, looks good ! :)

[@NBWDOUGHBOY]

Great Message at the End.

[@derenbong6060]

Stay tuned, the memory controller on Lunar lake is on the processor die, lion cove is deeper and wider and may implement hyper threading, skymont has similar IPC as Raptor cove and lion cove is 14% better IPC than Redwood cove, lastly the memory controller is rumored to support higher memory speed, Im not planning to upgrade from my 14900k but I’m a hardware nerd.

[@thevaultsup]

You should probably temper your hype a little bit, 14% IPC over Redwood is not that impressive considering it's ~3% behind Raptor Cove in IPC, and if Meteor lake hints anything, the ring clock is awful, so we'll have to see how it pans out for Arrow Lake (Btw, it doesn't clock as bad as people expect) And as bad (yes, bad) as the Zen 5 uplift is, it's most likely winning this gen. (And don't trust AMD numbers, they cherry picked GB sub-tests lmao)

[@derenbong6060]

@@thevaultsup Nah, Zen 5 benchmark against 14900k was with 6000MT memory, 😅 and if u go read chips and cheese, Redwood cove is basically Raptor cove ported to Intel 4,

[@derenbong6060]

@@thevaultsup and with desegregated architecture, hypothetically, Intel can offer up to 12 P cores only with hyperthreading for gamers who don’t care about multithreading, and even offer 8 P cores only to compete with Zen 5 3D

[@derenbong6060]

@@thevaultsup furthermore, if you’re a nerd and go through all the presentation about Lion Cove architecture, it’s significantly deeper and wider than Raptor cove, it’s like Golden cove in Alder Lake which has significant IPC increase that took AMD from Zen 3 to Zen 5 to match,

[@thevaultsup]

@@derenbong6060 Yea, it's deeper and wider, it also have a new cache level, and higher cache capacities, but it doesn't matter if it's just slow, i've seen some meteor lake results, the L2 is sometimes even slower than the L3 of Zen 4, so yea it sounds impressive and all, but only micro-benches will reveal if it's a good arch or if it's a dud. Also Zen 4 already matches Golden Cove in overall IPC i don't see what you mean, it's just that GLC clocks even higher and has better memory perf. IPC doesn't always translate into better gaming results, see X3D.

[@machoalright]

but can you run star citizen at 100 fps?

[@dinkidink5912]

iRacing in VR is cpu bound even with a max OC 14900k, pretty niche example though.

[@rogermartin4104]

Try gray zone warfare. It works the cpu and gpu especially in the helicopter.

[@moe.1903]

you know Intels new naming scheme is Core Ultra 9 285K? there won‘t be a 15900k

[@iLegionaire3755]

I disfavor Intel's new branding, bring back Intel Core i3, Intel Core i7, Intel Core i9! Core 9 Ultra or 285K just isn't the same. Almost as lame as Microsoft Gaming instead of the name Xbox (stupidest decision by Microsoft ever).

[@FearWarboar4135]

Pleb with a 1440p 240hz monitor here, you tuned my 3090 , 5800x3D rig a year and a half ago and every shooter I touch ever literally maxes out my monitor so, when that stops happening is when I’ll see the need for an upgrade lol. It clearly does what it needs to do ❤️🔥🤌🏻 until I upgrade my screen I’ll never need 241 fps

[@Eskoxo]

as far as pop in it's a software issue it's somewhat solved in ue5 tech

[@zencontroller]

The best way to look at this, is if your system is good enough for the games you play at the resolution you prefer you are fine. I think its important to upgrade when your card starts to lack features and can no longer hit a decent frame rate. Otherwise there's no need to upgrade. I remember when games like Crysis and the whole, 'can your pc play Crysis'. There really was a good reason to upgrade. 4090 is still a monster, 5090 will be an incredible piece of technology to own.

[@derenbong6060]

And check out CAMM 2, it has better traces than DIMM Ram, so may support higher memory overclocking,

[@hadleys.4869]

yeah, CAMM2 looks very interesting. I'm curious to see when Intel Arrow Lake's desktop gaming model CPU comes out with Z890 overclocking motherboards. Which technology will achieve faster and more stable speed at 8000+.

[@derenbong6060]

@@hadleys.4869 well… MSI and Asus did release CAMM2 Z790 board! 🌝

[@radugrigoras]

CAMM won’t do anything special, just another reason to fool ppl into buying new ram and mobos. It was made by Dell to use almost the same amount of space as soldered ram but be swapped at the assembly line. I have CAMM in my laptop and don’t notice any difference. So don’t hold your breath

[@nontoxic9960]

​@radugrigoras you're speaking complete nonsense

[@derenbong6060]

@@radugrigoras Nah, from the papers Ive read, the traces are indeed more linear and easier to optimize for better efficiency, speed and power scaling, instead of running the traces in a sunburst fashion resulting in multiple different lengths to the CPU, its now parallel,

[@RuiN4265]

"Why are people like that?" Consumerism

[@Kritter4life]

How about a combo that can run Squad at 200+ fps

[@pdamasco]

You're so right. I have a friend that's always like the new thing is out and I hate my current thing. I'm like why??? Is it not working or too slow? He's like, no but it doesn't support the latest shiny thing and the IPC isn't as good... I don't get it. I am not replacing my RTX 4090 until there is something at least 40-50% faster with features being used in games I can purchase and play. Future features are nice but they don't affect your current games. Even when they do come out most games allow you to run on hardware from the last 5-7 years so it really is just FOMO sometimes unless you're an e-sports player and truly need bleeding edge performance.

[@Shockabukuu]

still on 10400f@2070 super on 1080p 144hz,no need for upgrade.

[@FutureCanSnipe]

I feel like AMD is trying to set up Ryzen 9000 to match Intel 15th gen, to set up the excitement for 9000X3D by the end of 2024.

[@crnppscls]

It’s been said for a long time that the infrastructure of pc gaming needs to change. I mean we’ve had sniffs with directstorage and nvidia io and I guess unified memory would be a boon in gaming. The former to help with the pop in you talk about. It’s like that old Chinese proverb that I can’t recall exactly but basically adding flour to water or adding water to flour is just the same thing. Arrow lake will rally in single core anyway I’m sure but maybe you’re right about e cores

[@Hairybarryy]

im more excited about intels 288 core xeon

[@DELTA9XTC]

@@LeonNadwislanski also 99.99999% sure that he couldnt even use it or utilize more than around probably 280 of the 288 cores lol but I know what he means. Even tho I recently decided to buy a 5090 when 50 series launches end of this year and Im obviously massively excited about that, I still was excited about the 4090 release, even tho I knew that I wouldnt or couldnt buy it at that time. You can still be excited about releases, even tho you will never buy them. Look at Cars for example, people are excited all the time about new sh1t they cant even afford. Its normal, if youre interested in a topic or industry

[@Hairybarryy]

@@LeonNadwislanski how do you know?

[@Hairybarryy]

@LeonNadwislanski I mean there something called engineering sample. I have a Genoa-X 9684X es I bought off of Tao bao for $1500. Way way way cheaper than buying retail. And the cpu is unlocked. Very expensive hobby that I can afford.

[@iLegionaire3755]

I want the 128 performance core 6900P Intel Xeon more. I never say I cannot afford anything, only how can I learn to afford something. Mindset is wealthy or poverty as a lifestyle.

[@Nikola_Cirovic]

When it comes to games, there is no single CPU in the world that can run Stellaris late game on a 1000-star galaxy without slowing down. That's the only reason why I'm interested in CPU development right now.

[@parkersgarage4216]

shit man, now i gotta sell my 13900k running 4000 ddr4 and upgrade to ddr5 and 15th gen. at least my 4070ti can stay for a little bit longer lmao. now i gotta look into upgrading just to compete lol. shame on me for thinking i could skip new products lol.

[@radugrigoras]

I think intel will be the better chip. I mean maybe one day when windows runs great or ARM the E cores will be ARM and run windows and the P cores will run the x86 apps like games. Who knows, at the end of the day Intel has their own top of the line fabs and AMD ain’t got squat.

[@sean.d7171]

I mostly play VR mxbikes and arma 3 and dayz . My 14900ks can't keep up its struggles to use the 4090 and arma 3 with the 7700k did around 60fps Ave in benchmark and the 14900ks can do 130fps Ave. In vr cpu bottle neck is horrible frame drops made you sick and 120hz is hard to hit In games with lot's of phisics. I know most people don't have this problem but I do with the stuff I play. IPC could be 50% more and still not be enough. I would spend more to get more I can afford it.

[@borislavdj]

Exactly right. FOMO is waaaay too expensive the fight against. You get cought on emotions. I am imune tho. 13600KF rocking my games on 3060ti like a MF. Heck, not playing FPS's so just limiting the frames to 100. Running cool and not pumping up bill and heating up my room. I just have a goal and it works. Chilling.

[@NBWDOUGHBOY]

Im personally interested in what Intel is releasing. Just from them going to a better Node with TSMC 3nm should clean up a lot of the BS issues that ppl claim were issues with intel CPUs. It would've been nice if they had an X3D competitor. But with Intel Higher Generational IPC for me personally it should be way better in things like High End Emulation (RPCS3, Xenia & Ryujinx/Yuzu clones). Plus new Cycle on the same mobo so, We will have to see where the numbers land. I expect it to be pretty good. Hopefully they dont make it ridiculously overpriced.

[@phader2]

Yo Jufes!

[@jimcachero]

Hbm will work there’s so much room for that… maybe on the motherboards?

[@wiccanTV]

Intel 14900KS, monster chip ahead of its time with performance to give, if you can cool it down?

[@ColinDyckes]

MoRa 420 works for me at 6GHz all core 🙂

[@OGSGTWOBBLE]

@@ColinDyckesjust got a MoRa 420. Can’t wait for my 14900ks coming tomorrow.

[@ColinDyckes]

@@OGSGTWOBBLE De-lid and direct die for best results. I have the EK Velocity2 with direct die conversion kit. Works extremely well.

[@iLegionaire3755]

I will admit the 14900KS is my only upgrade path if I don’t want a new motherboard now and it’s growing more attractive of a product by the day with the EKG Delta TEC 2 custom loop cryogenic water cooling set up, the 14900KS is nearly unstoppable performance, and is as future proof as you can buy, if you cannot afford AMDs Threadripper Pro or EPYC CPUs.

[@OGSGTWOBBLE]

@@ColinDyckes I have used that before on 13900k and I had a bad experience. Either bad QC or just didn’t work out right. Looking for something else. Do I really want to delid for 100hz ?

[@Jeredien]

It's all about low hanging fruit and playing to segment strength. E cores make a bigger difference in laptops, which Intel holds commanding share and they need to compete with Apple. I know everyone tends to think about AMD & Intel, but when you look at the revenue generated laptop is a big player. I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss arrow lake with the process node improvements and more cache.

[@NBWDOUGHBOY]

It is basically Zen + all over again. Remember the Upgrade from 1800X to 2700X really wasn't worth it for the performance it was worth it for the Motherboard Improvements which AMD Struggled with Early on.

[@TheModeRed]

Techpowerup is saying 9950x is +4% to +23% faster than 14900k in gaming.

[@ATestamentToTech]

You didn't mention intel are getting rid of hyperthreading

[@Adreno23421]

same socket up to 2027 and beyond they said.

[@TheModeRed]

They may be delaying x3d for 9000 because it requires X870 and they dont want to tarnish this launch with "mobo upgrade required" news.

[@justinhogue9861]

People gonna set cars on fire in the streets if AMD does that.

[@kommandokodiak6025]

The phenomenon is Hardware FOMO

[@roguegaming9071]

6800 mhz ram works on my 7950x3d

[@lexsanderz]

My goal is the new samsung 4k 240hz tv. Can always use more cpu

[@JohnClarkGaming]

Yeah i don't think its intended as a huge generational leap.

[@tak2ulata]

Micro Center has been giving out discounts on motherboard and CPU combos for at least 12 years

[@justinhogue9861]

Annoying that its a 6 hr round trip.

[@SyndicatesFollower]

I believe all hardware manufactured over the past 2 years is useless from a generational uplift perspective, my 5800x3d+3080 12gb has aged very well and I expect that to still be the case when blackwell and rdna 4 release this year, people could've entirely skipped lga 1700, am5, rdna 3 and ada and still have a near top performing gaming PC, especially if you weren't looking to spend 3k+.

[@SubLimation7]

it's crazy how little you know about all this but anyway, lunar like has on silicon hbm

[@lllhunterlll9644]

The goal of better hardware is to push for 1000fps. Now obviously there’s a lot that goes into that game design, engine, software, etc but you will need the hardware to push it. I’m honestly just waiting for a full Intel build. If Nvidia wants my money again they are gunna have to make a CPU. I will just go all Intel or all AMD.

[@m8x425]

I'm getting a 9950x but AVX-512 is the only reason I want it.

[@get2choppa429]

amd needs to get it together and have 16 core chiplets and have a 32 core 7950x/9950x and 3d cache that to make sense in getting that instead of having a gimped down version of a 7950x thats really a 7800x3d in disguise

[@dianaalyssa8726]

HODL, Question is whether the 9950X3D/9800X3D are better than a 14900K(KF)/KS. 15th would just be the minimum threshold for the competition, so the new AMD stack might not be as good because 15th might not be as good (all speculation). My 4090 is sweating bullets that it might not be good enough for this new amazing crop of CPUs. 🤣

[@str8chillaxin]

spoiler: your 4090 is not good enough for the new amd x3d chip's gaming performance

[@FourtySixx]

must say, your thumbnails crack me up! ha ha

[@AquilaeYT]

Hi FrameChaser, what do you recommend between 14700K and a 7800x3D (i want the best frametime/input latency possible for competitive Apex Legends/COD)

[@jimmer411]

Intel needs to jump on the big cache bandwagon

[@Jaejgaren]

star citizen isn't maxed out i would say but it's alpha game with ass optimization.

[@gaav87]

You can't compare lunar lake to arrow lake. As lunar lake cpu die is made using TSMC N3B (basic) and Arrow lake will use intel 20A + powerVIA. This are two very different technologies. Traditional finfet on lunar lake vs GAAFET (gate all around) + reversed power delivery POWERVIA with lower voltage drops by 30% and higher performance by 6%. + removing HT brings between 3-5% gaming performance increase vs HT on. Add new skymont e-cores that are faster then 14900k p-cores =You do not need HT Even if they drop to 5.5ghz powervia + HT removal will make this on par with 14900k@6.0ghz. IPC increase of arl is unknown. At minimum arl 5.5ghz will be 15% faster then 14900k at 6.0ghz and prolly do this at 170-200W

[@Sonderpc]

Its called the Apple syndrome, new iphone releases so they make last gen slower with updates

[@randomcomments5034]

Al I want is the FCLK to be higher clock on my 7800x3D. But is that worth a whole new CPU? Depends on how far you can push the FCLK with an OC

[@JavierRiquelme]

New gen doesnt affect our owned products. But software will soon or later.-

[@_kardus]

lookin' good with the beard and shave up top

[@MooKyTig]

I know Jufes normally has to promote AMD in the title/thumbnail for them delicious clicks... but... once the 9800X3D (or whatever they call the 8-core x3d variant) launches, it might be true. Next gen is going to be 14900K/KS vs 9800X3D for the crown.

[@EX0007]

Think you mean 15900KS vs 9800X3D

[@MooKyTig]

@@EX0007 No. I meant exactly what I said. 15th gen will 1) not be named as 15xxx. 2) will not be faster than the 14900K/KS

[@EX0007]

@@MooKyTig Efficiency wise K/KS is no match for 7800X3D but I'm sure you couldn't care less about that.. Gaming wise 7800X3D either matches or BEATS 14900KS, 14900K is already beaten.. you must be delusional af like all Intel fanboys on this channel to think 9800X3D is no competition at all for 15th gen Intel, let alone 14th gen lmao

[@EX0007]

@@MooKyTig Efficiency wise K/KS is no match for 7800X3D but I'm sure you couldn't care less about that.. Gaming wise 7800X3D either matches or BEATS 14900KS, 14900K is already beaten.. you must be delusional as hell like all Intel fanboys on this channel to think 9800X3D is no competition at all for 15th gen Intel, let alone 14th gen lmao

[@6r3ys0n]

Only brand loyal idiots are happy when another product turns out not great or bad value. Should only care about the fastest and law of the cheapest and the best 👍

[@hadleys.4869]

Exactly, KZbin is full of AMD fanboy trolls waiting to downvote or comment on anyone who utters the name of Intel. I simply want the CPU that's going to offer the fastest performance, best stability maintaining framerate with higher 1% lows, and the least amount of effort to get the CPU to work properly from the jump.

[@str8chillaxin]

@@hadleys.4869 you nailed the 7800x3d to the T unless u overclocked to xmp 8000+ on intel. The 7800x3d hits higher 1% lows in almost all cases out of box in comparison. Don't believe it? Then you didn't even watch the benchmarks. Also enjoy playing in 1080p because CPU doesn't really matter much in 1440p or 4k gaming

[@louisfriend9323]

Intel is defending against AMD taking laptop space, that's why the focus on E cores. Performance per Watt is everything on mobile.

[@shephusted2714]

without running amd you can't compete - look at steam stats if you want to confirm - we do need to have 64gb hbm onboard but the thing is amd is ruling and they will rule even more with zen5 x3d

[@NBWDOUGHBOY]

Yeah, I dont understand why AMD doesn't just Release the X3D day 1 when that is what ppl actually want. Last gen they release the X3D only 3 to 4 months after the Regular Chips.

[@EX0007]

Bruh your answer is literally in your comment, its what people WANT.. if they launch x3d alongside other cpus it'll hog the spotlight and affect sales of the other cpus because x3d will be bought a lot more.. Amd is smart launching them later

[@asdf_asdf948]

X3d chips have more advanced packaging so it takes longer to spin up the manufacturing + qc, also the x3d chips are binned for voltage so it would take a while after manufacturing starts on the core dies to build up inventory

[@ImportRace]

Hopefully it renders faster in blender and Adobe Premiere

[@betterh]

ecores are a compensation for power hungry p cores, bad sign

[@savageland8402]

New PC parts come out....all the discord people buy all new stuff and fomo anyway 😂😂😂...bundles sales go up😂😂😂

[@wilhelm391]

I'm just here for the memes.

[@michaelhulcy6680]

2:11 holy moly. The last appearance of good old gamer might be right. Without a big financial and philosophical technology change with AMD, they’re likely ca-poot!!! They WILL go out of business. Like you’ve rightfully pointed out Jufus, Intel’s the way to go. Any K skew. Don’t need the top AND water-cooling. I’ll be nice, you can if you want AND GOT THE MONEY, but in hard financial times for an individual, water-cooling and da most expensive chips are retarded.

[@mjethier]

buying AMD is like hiring a recovering crackhead that's still on crack.

[@Ravenx217]

meanwhile im on my 4th 14900KS and I got 3 more on the way, I hate this cpu game.

[@franksam8610]

I buy every 3-4 years and I’ve been fine..

[@Doshi-lp4tn]

11900k 760 cpuz

[@K31TH3R]

Ryzen 9000 FCLK max is reportedly 2400MHz. But AFAIK no word if that's guaranteed or silicon lottery number. Rumor mill says Zen5 is focused primarily on power efficiency, IF latency and signal integrity, and front end optimizations, so changes that should benefit OC and gaming. That being said, if the 9600X actually launches at $299 then Zen5 is a serious AMD Skylake moment. A 6c/12t chip at $299 in 2024 is so stagnant I'd expect it to ship with mosquitoes.

[@TheBURBAN111]

ppl will still buy the 9600x over a 15600k just because its ryzen

[@NBWDOUGHBOY]

@@TheBURBAN111 Yep. Sad Shlt. lol

[@SyndicatesFollower]

@@TheBURBAN111 That's some copium bruh, the ULTRA 5 245K is only going to have 14 threads, 8 of which are only as fast as a 5ghz skylake. Those 6 p cores are getting cooked, meanwhile the iterative development approach of Zen is going to bring Zen 2->>Zen 3 level uplifts and the socket is still getting a near fully redesigned Zen 6.

[@xdi1733]

It's not that serious.

[@kramnull8962]

The 7950x isn't exactly getting the correct clocks on some motherboards. And having the similar issues as the 14900K. Just the 3 people that bought the 7950x are bragging about them. And every 7800x3d owner hasn't upgraded since his R3 1400 until the 7800x3d. Also AMD owners with fake Intel issues.

[@whitehavencpu6813]

This has to be the worst launch of Ryzen non-3D till date. 0 frequency boost compared to previous gen and less than 20% IPC gain.

[@maveric19871]

It is 16% over the 7000X on average. Also now native is 5600mhz over the 4800mhz which is exactly 16% difference. The 8000:2000 infinitiF is on average 4% faster than 6400:2000. If somehow u r manage to run 6400:2133 cl26 there are videos on YT that it is even slower than cl34 7800Mhz/2133 on x3d series. The 0 frequency boost is a nod towards the MB manufacturers, as the ECLK is the only oc option

[@laszlozsurka8991]

What are you talking about? Zen 5 IPC increase is bigger than Zen 4's IPC increase. I don't understand how people find a 16% IPC gain "shitty"... like hello? These are CPUs not GPUs. 16% is good.

[@mitsuhh]

Since when is +16% IPC bad?

[@str8chillaxin]

@@laszlozsurka8991 exactly. They sound like AAPL fanboys. Zero clue that the new x3d chip will be king by a long shot. Intel 14900ks is gonna be the last real gaming Intel CPU

[@whitehavencpu6813]

@@laszlozsurka8991 Higher IPC than Zen 4 means very little without any clock speed increase. Zen 4 had IPC and Clock increases, so at least in applications where IPC was the same, you were guaranteed to get an improvement compared to the previous gen Zen 3. Zen 4 will probably tie Zen 5 in a lot of applications.