America: Who Got There First?

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[@abrax2349]

St.Brendan basically glitched into a DLC map that hadn't been released yet.

[@hasukay7511]

Assassin's Creed Valhalla DLC is about to be epic. I hope we get to visit Canada. Ireland and Paris are confirmed!!

[@Mini-vi8oo]

god knows what he put in the data folder

[@manuelwitrago6511]

p.s. Byzantine artifacts where found in southish midwest of america.

[@TH3B1GW0RM]

@Lucifer Satan Morningstar why u so mad

[@calebramos8858]

@@Mini-vi8oo literally

[@whenthemusicsover6028]

"Leif, how did you find America?" "Turned left at Greenland."

[@preferredpronoun3689]

Leif was Scandinavian, not European ;p

[@bluespyusa8979]

@@preferredpronoun3689 What continent is Scandinavia (also known as the Kalmar countries...sort of... 😜) in today? :p

[@CrazyAjvar]

@@preferredpronoun3689 Ah yes, famous continent of Scandinavia.

[@Durandal734]

You misspelled it: Turned leift at Greenland.

[@dougbennett8592]

" Are you a mod or a rocker?" "I'm a mocker!"

[@daNorse]

As I'm a Norwegian I would of course put my bet on Leif Eiriksson. But actually, it was the people of Siberia who walked over the landbridge where the Bering Strait is today some 30000 years ago. And also eventually populated the South Americas...

[@jayjayylao2017]

I beg to disagree, the native Americans including those of south America look very much different from Siberians.

[@paulmcadam6825]

Its is probable that many early American natives sailed across the oceans.

[@JustindeEugeneWhyIQuitDeMonRat]

*It wasn't 30,000 years ago, cuz Humans were NOT Yet Created that far Back!!!!*

[@hunnitmanjuuve2404]

@@JustindeEugeneWhyIQuitDeMonRat actually, there's a plentiful amount of evidence that homosapiens have been on earth for 300,000 years

[@Mike-pn8ln]

@@JustindeEugeneWhyIQuitDeMonRat shush

[@Anidem9]

I grew up in the U.S. and went to school in the 90s and they still taught us that Colombus was the guy who discovered the Americas. It annoys me to find out that it was discovered three decades before I was born that it was Leif Erikson and I was never taught it.

[@buttholelicker1874]

I’m a sophomore in high school right now and I was also taught it was Columbus who discovered the Americas. The first teacher to say other wise was my AP world history teacher earlier this week actually

[@ccclll987]

@@buttholelicker1874 they were not wrong. Columbus DID discover the americas in the sense that he was aware of it and made the rest of the world know. If we talk in an absolute sense, then the first to discover america are the natives themselves. View it this way, Erikson is a person that stumbles because of gravity, but Columbus is the Newton that understands it and explains it to others.

[@SubZer00fucksgiven]

He was a freemason... Ofc he gets the credit! 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@robertw31968]

@@SubZer00fucksgiven #Truth

[@brigidtheirish]

Yep. Same. They taught that folks thought the Earth was flat back then, too.

[@sovapariyar5808]

OH MY GOD!!!!! He started to wink again at the end. I used to miss that.

[@marystone101010]

I feel so blushy when he winks at the end and I don't know why, it's not like he can see me. Lol.

[@GoldChampion23]

I don’t!!!

[@mechasentai]

You used to miss that? You missed it. Then you stopped missing it. Then it happened and that made you remember having missed it.

[@greyvirus444]

"Murders are like shots of Taquilla, when you don't remember how many you've done, you should probably stop" lmfao

[@mattmcie6914]

Thats kinda messed up and unrelated. But my eyes almost poped outa my head from laughing 10/10

[@tylerpemberton3134]

What's taquilla?? A new drug?? 😅😅

[@constelation2002]

Hello Arran, Columbus actually anchored off the northern shoreline of Haiti 🇭🇹 not the Bahamas. He renamed Haiti Hispaniola which means “little Spain”. I love your channel man, the best on KZbin. Thanks for all you do.

[@peganan]

Dear Flat Earthers, Please understand the science we've had for thousands of years! You're welcome!

[@SubZer00fucksgiven]

Really doesn't prove either way in this lil clip

[@LifeOnHoth]

Meanwhile in heaven - God goes: USE YER BRAINS!

[@kosticivan3921]

@yeltsa kcir What

[@BoereViking]

The only thing flat earthers have to fear is sphere itself...

[@jrodriguez4352]

Your book just arrived. Fun fact, buyers will hear your voice when reading it. (I was expecting Heyyy to be the first word)

[@marystone101010]

I get what you mean, lol. I think it's out in audiobook too, and he narrates it. I also hear "but" in my head a lot.

[@JavierS-pt8nf]

I just got it too, started peaking a little, and in my head happened exactly what you just pointed out hahaha

[@TheRPGentleman]

Fun fact, Thoughty2 was the first person to make the term "Heyyy" seem interesting and it's also the first thing he said to Mrs. Thoughty2, who immediately started swooning.

[@justamanofculture12]

I know right. He has such an distinct voice. His accent makes it more cool. I can listen to his audiobooks for hours.

[@Legendarykoenma]

Hey, 42 here

[@gunzakimbo]

Columbus: I discovered America Erikson: I discovered America Saint Brendan: I discovered America Actual Native Americans: Uhhhhh

[@m9078jk3]

Native Americans discovered the Americas from crossing the Beringia land bridge perhaps 10's of thousands of years ago from Siberia . Before then there probably no human occupants.

[@danielfenton1686]

It's said that remains of caucasian people have been found that predate the "natives" (at least in the US and Canada)

[@kingkeeper9926]

Many Native Americans from Central and South America are direct descendents of the Oceanian tribes from Indonesia, the Philippines and even the Japanes (Ainu peoples), most of the most important civilizations come from the Maori. Based on recent findings it is even possible that these people form Oceania migrated first and before those Asians who entered by feed via the Bering Strait. Quecha languages and genetics all along the Andean mountains and the Amazon share many similarities, costumes and even the same words and concepts of gods to random tribes on Indonesia. Muisca peoples from Colombia also believed in a fying snake god similar to those dragons that the chinese culture portraits.

[@SEB1991SEB]

Yeah but you couldn't say that the Native Americans 'discovered' America though. The journey from Asia to America across the land bridge during the Ice Age would've taken place over many generations. And they would've been completely unaware the whole time that they had moved onto an entirely different continent, it was all just generic land to them. It's like saying that horses 'discovered' Asia when they travelled across the land bridge from America to Asia during the Ice Age, they didn't realise anything about the idea of continents or the significance of discovering new land.

[@kingkeeper9926]

@@SEB1991SEB The concept of discovery and movement did had a significance for nomad comunities, migration and apropiation of territories was a thing back then as well, so it was pretty much the same or similar as today. I say it because what actually pushes humans to move further and further away into new places is usually climate or conflict, hunter gatherer/nomad cummunities usually circle throgout the same land as long as possible knowing that there's some specific places rich in resources and animals to eat, depending on the season they'll return to these certain specific places, when another group appears or the group disbands then this territory would need to be shared or fought to gain control, just like the nomadic communities who pushed large migrationsinto the roman empire or the native americans in south america who still have disputes over lands, all of this happens unless they just move away in search of new hospitable land and enstablish there, a new world only for them to live in, this was definetively of big significance for these cultures and the future civilizations of their sons, just like when many greek communities were forced to migrate and ended up populating most of the Mediterranean when non owned land started to scarce in their own territory, leaving the seeds for many other civilizations to grow over the same culture bases.

[@DorianTheReaper]

The giants throwing fire at his ship from an island with rivers of fire might be a volcanic eruption

[@epicmeerkat1677]

You don’t say

[@DorianTheReaper]

@@epicmeerkat1677 to us its obvious but i wanted to point it out for the people who didnt notice

[@IceBrys]

Imagine how funny it would've been if there was no New World, and Columbus just sailed into the sea for half a year because of a unit conversion error

[@PlugInRides]

If not for The New World, Columbus would have died. He didn't have the food or water to make it all the way to Asia. By the time he reached The Bahamas, his crew was out of provisions, and would have died had they turned back for Spain.

[@tubuskan4348]

@@PlugInRides #cannibalism

[@theoptimisticskeptic]

@@PlugInRides I was thinking about that, you'd think an experienced sea-going crew would be able to feed themselves at sea. It's not like they are sailing through a food-desert. And there's rain water to catch. You might still have a problem with scurvy, I don't know.

[@PlugInRides]

@@theoptimisticskeptic Fish are actually a bit scarce in the middle of the ocean. The best fishing is over continental shelves, or even closer to coastlines. There is a reason various countries, like Russia and China, are often caught fishing within the EEZs of the United States and Canada. It also takes a lot of fish to feed a whole crew, and a fish-only diet is not good long-term.

[@theoptimisticskeptic]

@@PlugInRides Interesting, Thanks for the reply!

[@gavinwhitaker549]

I’ve learned more from you than any history course I’ve taken.

[@ashina5924]

Actually because you have context from school this video helps you relearn and retain the info you learned.

[@iluvgtasan]

Education is free

[@adognamedbird]

Like..where to do bad things 🤔 🤷‍♂️🤣🤙

[@indridcold8433]

I have read American history books. You guys should rise up against the establishment and sue the crap out of your public schools. It is almost all indoctrination with little education. The specific one I got is called, "United States of America History by Robert Paynter." I am appauled who the book gives credit for inventing the automobile, the radio, telephone, rocket, the glorious way the evil pirate Christopher Columbus is portrayed, and who discovered electricity.

[@maxdeleon4017]

If only youtube and public schools did a collab

[@kaelanirevyruun1676]

Original title: “Who really discovered America?”

[@maximillian5102]

I see that, when I got the notification

[@Mr3344555]

Second title: The TRUE discoverer of America is not who you think

[@skelmz1]

Why , why does it always change?

[@truthboom]

@@skelmz1 probably to make it relatable as "The true original title of this video"

[@iskindersam4899]

It's funny how you say, his the first "European" to set foot there. 6:03 I wonder why you said it like that. I wonder how something can be discovered if it's already been discovered?

[@BigT2664]

Loved your piece. I teach this to high school students. Only one thing to correct... (teacher syndrome: look for the errors)... Columbus was not looking for a "Northwest Passage" as you mention at 3:23. Rather, as you later mention, he postulated that by going straight to the West he would eventually end up in the (East) Indies. The term "Northwest Passage" came after the exploring nations realized that the West Indies were not in fact the Indies. The American continents were in the way of the westward route. Then explorers such as Hudson and Cartier were hired to find a "Northwest Passage" to still achieve that mythical short route to the Indies.

[@sondraoppedisano9440]

I love this video, Thoughty2! Thank you for all your hard work! You are appreciated ❤️

[@Hana-qs9zg]

"A traffic circle... wait I can't do it... a round-a-bout" We all know he wanted to laugh more.

[@-bubby9633]

What is it with Americans and giving things ridiculously dull and matter-of-fact names. Roundabout = traffic circle. Lollipop lady/man = crossing guard. Cheese toastie = grilled cheese. Just seems such a boring culture that refuses to have a joke at its own expense.

[@heliosgnosis2744]

@@-bubby9633 Cheese toastie is British actually.

[@jonharris1917]

@@-bubby9633 I'm an American and I say roundabout, as does every other person I know in my regional area. I'm from Columbus, OH.

[@frankfontaine1559]

@@jonharris1917 im also from ohio, near toledo. everyone i know also calls it a roundabout iv never heard the term traffic circle

[@jordanwiser1435]

@@frankfontaine1559 in from a small town called lebanon,Kentucky. Ive never heard it be called a traffic circle only a round about

[@johnbartholf777]

My teacher taught us way back in the 1970s that, while Columbus wasn't the first European to discover what came to be known as the Americas, he WAS the first person who, essentially, held a news conference about it afterwards and got others interested in following him, making it a donnybrook of empirical conquest. The vikings weren't that good at publicity, it seems.

[@JimmyCee-cx1db]

They sang murderous Arias, paraded decapitated heads on pikes, ceremoniously drank in the streets and pillaged villages, also came up with naming progeny directly after Yu, yeah -not the type for publicity !!

[@RegulatorXIII]

America = Amerigo Vespucci

[@coyote4237]

@@RegulatorXIII Nah, it was Richard Ameryk.

[@carlosfbarajas7755]

An mini ice age destroyed the green land colony and the natives did the rest of the work, when a man of Leif killed a chief son. That's why the viking colony failed. Although a man named Thorfinn had the first European son in America

[@LucasVe208]

@@carlosfbarajas7755 you mean Greenland. not Iceland.

[@dakotahinson4064]

The occasional few key tunes playing in the background, sounds partially like my morning alarm and it's bringing me some major unease. Lol

[@aleck.492]

ur look when u finished the sentence at 11:34: priceless cant even tell why i appreciate this detaile

[@Colt7417]

My ritual is finishing work at 10 pm getting home, shower settle and having a beer while watching mr moustache, bliss 👌

[@uhohitsross12]

The flat earth people are gonna have a fit after watching this video.

[@fabianlaibin6956]

That's gonna happen regardless

[@planetoid2001]

LOL

[@JohnLeePettimoreIII]

I have had a _LOT_ of dealings with Globe Deniers (aka "Flatties") . They never let facts get in the way of their crackpot beliefs. One of the great underpinnings of their anti-reality dogma is that gravity doesn't exist. Yeah, it's that bad.

[@planetoid2001]

They probably do not want to stress their brains on the science part of our universe ... Do they even believe that there is something as science?

[@TheFreddy2284]

@@planetoid2001 They need to find an interest.

[@zen_adi]

In Denmark, we have various different Viking maps drawn on animal leathers. These are depicting several smaller trips to America before the year 1000, they are on display spread throughout a handfuld of danish Viking Museums.

[@davidanderson2357]

No doubt they were scouting trips for potential IKEA store locations. (And yes, I know IKEA is Swedish, not Danish. Gimme a bit of latitude here, folks!)

[@agnieszkagarry42]

Tho im new to your channel I love your take on the history. I'm curious did you do anything about the polish kingdom yet ? I would love to hear your take on the history of Poland . I really, really enjoy and love your channel ❤

[@agalah408]

"The Doc, he's alive! and living in Nova Scotia in 1000AD!"

[@indridcold8433]

Don't worry Marty. We will fill the boilers, repair the oil injectors and we will get the locomotive running better than new. Because tomorrow, you are going to go to1000AD to find the past me there, So you two can go...(dramatic brass instrument music) back to the place that you were before the DeLorean time machine ever made the first time travel that was not the present nor the past. 👈 (Sorry it is still under copyright. I can not use the phrase we all know and love.)

[@willywonkaandthewarcrime4493]

Please just no more back to the future

[@agalah408]

@@willywonkaandthewarcrime4493 Ok, no more Marty McFly. However, according to Harry Harrisons 'Technicolour Time Machine' the only reason that the Vikings went to America was because a movie company traveled back in time and paid Vikings to go there so they could shoot the movie of Vikings coming to America. They also paid the lead actor - the actual Leif Eriksen - a bottle of Jack Daniels per day as a salary.

[@willywonkaandthewarcrime4493]

@@agalah408 i got a history lesson today :|

[@robinirik1637]

One of the best comments ever 😂

[@megashredderofkate]

or the giant sheep could have been polar bears? ha ha

[@stuartronald9785]

Not on the pharoe islands, assuming the list was in order of course. But polar bears is a good call

[@caslaBBalsac]

Very possible, also, icebergs can be MASSIVE, there's picture of them online DWARFING some rather large ships. And Lava Bombs easily come across as fireballs. Wouldn't surprise me if he thought a giant had thrown them, even if he couldn't see one.

[@eliyahuzylberberg171]

@@caslaBBalsac maybe river of fire is lava? Edit: yo he actually said that the lava at ice land could have meant that, I actually guessed it!

[@hydrolito]

Christopher Columbus made it to islands near South America and southern part of South America there are no polar bears there.

[@younglord7805]

@@hydrolito they're talking about another explorer

[@Hodeman96]

The replica of St. Brendan's boat is on display in Clonfert. It's quite a robust looking vessel quite capable of an ocean crossing. Scary but possible.

[@thepianoplayer416]

Interesting description of St. Brendon's voyage. Sounds like he took a similar route that Erik the Red & Leif Erikson would take years later heading N-W into Iceland & bypassing Greenland to N. America. Since Scandinavia is much further north, they would travel more directly W than N-W. Tim Severin didn't just cross the Atlantic proving that it can be done with a primitive boat. He also crossed the Pacific on a bamboo raft from Vietnam to the coast of N. America riding the Kuroshio (Japan) Current. He made it far enough to the coast of British Columbia, Canada before being rescued by coast guards when his raft was rotting away. The British Naval Officer Gavin Menzies wrote the book: "1421, the Year China Discovered America". Back in the Ming Dynasty, the 3rd Emperor Zhudi commissioned a fleet of treasure ships to explore the known world. Menzies speculated some of the ships may have landed in America.

[@timtemple5218]

The Mongols outfitted a ship and headed east, toward Europe. But they ran into California. There was a drought present. They built a settlement there, but they weren't prepared for the settlement. They returned to the ship and sailed back to China.

[@SlapstickGenius23]

The mongols thought California was Europe, but they’re actually rowing through the Pacific Ocean and not the Mediterranean! That’s because Europe is west of Mongolia.

[@SubZer00fucksgiven]

This is what I have heard... Old Chinese/Mongolian sailors found it long ago... Ofc typical anglo-saxon claims it was them

[@xiphactinusaudax1045]

wouldn't there be settlement remains there?

[@TwoLotus2]

@@xiphactinusaudax1045 Chinatown--Duh...

[@xiphactinusaudax1045]

@@TwoLotus2 ohhhh yeah that makes sense.

[@JesusChrist-jv8xc]

Hi moustache man

[@Sleepwalk3rr]

Change your name

[@DasJaegar]

Lol

[@francesconaseddu508]

@@Sleepwalk3rr or what

[@soupflood]

Jesús Christ!

[@QreeWii]

@@Sleepwalk3rr why

[@joshclark756]

technically didnt native americans discover america

[@SmokeyG59420]

Thanks I wasn't gonna watch this video but come and comment this no disrespect to thoughy2 its just your statement is truthful asf

[@markferreira7682]

There saying they’ve been in Americas since before 250,000 years because no one ever believed people where in Americas before so the never dig deep enough to look

[@mattwhite8556]

Your videos always make me smile. Thanks.

[@JAY1892]

This was some of the funniest shit I’ve ever heard. “Some killings.” 😂

[@tocarules]

Yes, and propaganda has had a long time to be perfected.

[@JAY1892]

@@tocarules Please elaborate so that I can properly understand your viewpoint. Thanks!

[@tocarules]

@@JAY1892 Some people fall while others leap. Some people are killed while others died later of their injuries. Some flee while the rich leave. Heres some fun facts about how one woman screwed the aboriginal Siberians. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqjFomyjebWXhJI

[@dougbennett8592]

Those wild and crazy Norsemen!

[@MrOmagaG]

Erik the Red gets thrown out... Erik the Red was an Impostor

[@deemo8578]

Straight up RESPECT for the roundabout - ❤

[@gwickle1685]

Love your presentation. I've heard it all before and still watched. Bravo

[@usha9807]

Just got your book on audible looking forward to listening to whilst i play World of Warcraft :)

[@DavidKutzler]

0:10 “To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women!” Conan

[@aidanmagill6769]

"Hot water. Good dentishtry. Shoft lavatory paper." Cohen.

[@agalah408]

Was that before or after he yelled "Get to the Choppa!"

[@thedamnedatheist]

In one of the later stories Conan did sail to America, where he wore a feathered cloak....

[@DennisTrovato]

Other people: 'exist' Erik The Red: So, you have chosen... death.

[@carlosfbarajas7755]

And one of Leif man killed a chief son, starting a conflict with the natives causing them to flee back to green land

[@Censeo]

See if I remember Runes... Dennis Tropato?

[@andreaskvisler]

@@Censeo Dennis trowato*

[@Censeo]

@@andreaskvisler Thank you for the correction. I blame my error on the fact that my mother toungue doesn't use futhark alphabet

[@111076tom]

@@carlosfbarajas7755 What native tribes fled to Greenland?

[@Kilogya]

Straight skyrim vibes from the theme, I love it, thank you for your time and work!

[@MrYeahyuhhh]

I could watch your videos for days, thank you

[@mickshan98]

17:37 my home town of killarney, kerry has made it to your video. What a privilege. Just for the record. St Brendans story is widely accepted as truth in Ireland. The biblical references and massive dramatisation of the journey stand for other religions reasons to ljve through the ages in story form

[@hestikakala3027]

As some extreme American Christians believe, Jesus had traveled to North America and mixed with the natives. St Brendan could have been following in his footsteps???

[@lorcancampbell7515]

What kind of irish name is drebsovic

[@heliosgnosis2744]

@@lorcancampbell7515 All Sir names are actually Norse btw. given the Danes "aka Norse" conquered the whole of Europe well kinda but not so much conquered but even still yeah happened, they brought forth the sir name, to better lay claim for the family name of course to lands won in battle, traded, come about in gambling etc etc. My last name is not Irish yet the place named after my family goes into the depths of ancient history or pre Roman and pre European Ireland, the original people of Ireland were long gone when what today as in people showed up on it's shores, and while we are at it, sucks for ALL of Europe to be bested by we lil Ireland, you know the ONLY place not conquered by ROME

[@perperald21]

Norse means mostly old Norwegian, and in some cases Scandinavian. And was never under Roman occupation, as was not Sweden, Finland, Russia, Denmark, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, most of Germany and Austria etc.

[@aidanmagill6769]

@@lorcancampbell7515 it's as Irish as Campbell

[@mr.knightthedetective7435]

Fun fact: Christopher Columbus was the *last* to discover America

[@hj454]

bruh lmao

[@lhurst9550]

After Columbus discovered America, it stayed discovered.

[@Shikuesi]

Arguably the "last" was Amerigo Vespucci who actually realised it was a previously unknown continent, and finally gave it its permanent name. Meanwhile I wonder if Thoughty2 has anything on the theory that Phoenicians reached Brazil by accident, analogously to Leif in Canada?

[@Swearengen1980]

@KZbin Lover Columbus never stepped foot in actual America. His sailing routes were his real contribution. He "discovered" the Caribbean.

[@thegreenbird795]

Columbus discovered America for Spain and Spain was the first European empire to successfully colonize it.

[@Switchy]

thankyou for saying roundabout. that meant alot to me

[@johnprzybycien1644]

The "giants throwing fireballs" story in the St.Brendan story may have some truth to it, if he took the same route as Leif Erickson, he would have passed Iceland which is actively volcanic, and it would have seemed to those at the time, that fireballs were attacking their boat.

[@jameskimball9960]

Iamgine sailing across the ocean 1000 years later. To see the same iceberg they did

[@QuigleTheGnome]

Probably melted now

[@joemullally]

Yeah and then after another 1000 years a massive liner goes and crashes into it 🙂🙂

[@aknighttrain]

You do understand that icebergs in the Atlantic don't last thousands of years, right?

[@joemullally]

@@aknighttrain in general yes.. but this particular iceberg is a veritable god.. a mighty oceanic beast as old as time itself

[@aknighttrain]

@@joemullally apparently so! Some of these comments really crack me up with the evident lack of any kind of logical thought behind them.

[@ilikelebronjames6426]

I Like this guy, and his mustache

[@kenlieck7756]

He gave us quite a ride this time, didn't he? (Not on the mustache, I mean...)

[@iamgroot4080]

I don't like him, but I like the mustache

[@seyamrahman1002]

Lmao imagine figuring out the circumference of the world just for you to have used the wrong units

[@malcot0414]

Can you please make an episode about the site the silk road? Pleaaase moustache man?

[@stevenhair3250]

@Lucifer Morningstar probably will unless he has a video on it already not sure.

[@timwoodward8113]

Silk road shut down years ago

[@benny1459]

The issue was with maps. Marco polo was a merchant. Not a cartographer. Polo's map, which most of Europe used, was wildly inaccurate. Made Asia seem much much larger than it was.

[@AxxLAfriku]

I HATE people that HATE other people. I get a lot of HATE comments on my amazing videos and I HATE it. Please don't spread HATE. Do I have to HATE you too, dear ben

[@JAY1892]

@@AxxLAfriku I hate you. 🤗

[@iangraves5417]

@@JAY1892 I hate you very much 😃😀

[@The205live]

@@AxxLAfriku stop shouting it hurts my ears

[@charlesbeeman]

​@@The205live Don't you just hate when people feel the need to caps-yell, when nobody was getting loud at all?

[@josecunha7430]

Hello, love your videos. About this one and about discover information, i recommend you to study a little from Portuguese's discovers history. Yes you are right first where the Vikings, second the Portuguese and last Cristóvão Colombo, maybe from Genova maybe from Cuba Portugal. Maybe soon of merchants, maybe soon of D. Fernando portuguese príncipe. But for sure Portugal already new America, and that's why In Tordesilhas treated they ask to keep a little more degrees from the initial parallel and they stay with Brasil. Think about that. Best regards

[@opalglass8101]

It's funny, I knew a girl in 3-4th grade who is supposedly descended from Eric the Red through her mom. And I believe it because her mother was terrifying. Also, I remember watching a documentary about ancient Irish monk ruins in America. So the saint probably made it. Further proof was that they found carvings in the shorthand used by Irish monks that basically read as "we have punishing hangovers" lol.

[@kevindurant7803]

I literally can not live without your videos. Please don’t stop. I love the new thumbnails by the way.

[@sno6762]

Thanks to my grade 8 history teach I actually knew that the Vikings got here in Canada way before Columbus. Shoutout Mr. Smith!

[@tocarules]

Thats because Canadians unlike Americans realize that the US is not the center of the universe. Take for instance slavery. For some reason Google thinks slavery started with the Atlantic slave trade as no matter how you search slavery, Google misdirects you to the Atlantic slave trade.

[@billrobertjoe]

@@tocarules what? how is Columbus American centrism? an Italian explorer for Spain who never set foot in the United States of America. also, the slave trade was either started by the portugese or arabians depending on what you consider the beginning.

[@tocarules]

@@billrobertjoe First you should reread my comment. Then do things like look at a map and ask yourself why does the US appear to be so much larger than Canada when its much smaller by land mass. Bet my bottom dollar you know very little about Canada or the EU or pretty much anything of any country other than the US. Hey, dont feel bad as our education system is just as bad. The only thing Canadians like many others know about the US is what they see coming out of Hollyweed. Actually the slave trade started in Africa. As long as theres been humans theres been slavery. Take Harris for example. She kept prisoners past their release date as they needed the slaves. Thanks to Obama Libya has open air slave trading. China with the Turkic in forced vital organ donation/slave labor camps where people find notes to rescue them in stuff they buy? Hell, China just had a bunch of sweeter siezed for using slaves. What about Apple? Child labor for Cobalt? The US to have white slaves working textile and tobacco. Many of the white poor people from Europe had to work 2 years as a slave to earn the right to freedom. Then there was Anthony Johnson the first legal slave owner in the US that just happened to be black. The liberals dont like that fact so much.

[@billrobertjoe]

@@tocarules number one, the most popular map projection "mercator" makes Canada FUCKING HUGE and leaves America looking normal i don't know much about Canada cause it isn't important, but i know about the eu cause it is important you know exactly which slave trade i was talking about, you don't have to pull this surface level shit out of your ass.

[@joerex9494]

@@tocarules "why does the US appear to be so much larger than Canada when its much smaller by land mass. " Like the other comment, The Mercator Projection distorts the size of objects as the latitude increases from the Equator to the poles, where the scale becomes infinite. So, for example, Greenland and Antarctica appear much larger relative to land masses near the equator than they actually are. Another example is that Greenland and Africa are roughly shown as the same size, although in reality, Africa is about fourteen times larger. Because it is impossible to project a (roughly) spherical earth onto a flat map without significant distortion. The projection, I think you're talking about is the Robinson Projection which makes America bigger than it actually is.

[@jamesmcbridenyc730]

I'm glad you got this right and mentioned St.Brendan hat's off to you for doing your research.

[@pearcethehuman1168]

hey thoughty, interesting tidbit. the photo you had of The Nina is of a replica ship that was built in 1992 for the quintessential of his first sail. that replica I have sailed between the years 2014 and 2015. interesting history even just on those replicas. thanks thoughty

[@vicariousgamer2871]

Considering that there were already people here, I would have to presume that the land was discovered far before any of the mentioned discovered the land.

[@holyherb4203]

Came to write this myself.

[@tokiomutex4148]

The natives discovered the land and Amerigo Vespucci realized that it's another continent.

[@skibbav]

The word 'discovered' has a meaning to it. The topic is specifically about who was first to find America, not about who was first to inhabit it.

[@BlackHawk2b]

Yeah but they aren't European

[@vicariousgamer2871]

@@skibbav Had to be discovered first.

[@phaidonpetropoulos9041]

11:15 I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO ME!!!!

[@nuvostef]

I really liked this one! Thank you. 🤙🏼🌹

[@atomicphilosopher6143]

@8:58 - There aren't any statues of Hitler and we still remember him. If there was a huge statue of Hitler standing in a park, you think we should leave it up because history?

[@alittleredpepper768]

word

[@samc2450]

It'd be cool to have one in a museum tbh, like with the Stalin ones in Russia

[@charlesbaldo]

Saint Brendan’s Island was the basis of the TV show “Lost”

[@VONMEEK]

You’re brilliant lad!! Love your vids really interesting yet your sense of humour is on point

[@frosttouched1997]

Thank you for saying roundabout! Traffic circle sounds like something a toddler would say!

[@FeedScrn]

Never knew about St Brendan.... Very interesting potential there. A couple of things... - Augustine of Hippo who wrote City of God in 435AD says that is was not the Romans who had the biggest empire, but it was the Assyrians.... He added that they conquered the entire world.... including all of Asia... and in the next generation this included India as well. - Columbus AFAIK never set foot on the N. American continent. It's kind of a secret, but he ended up on the Is. of Hispanolia. There he founded Santo Domingo. You can look up Colonial Zone in the Dominican Republic to see some pretty Spanish architecture, including Columbus's house... still standing.

[@phaidonpetropoulos9041]

12:13 HELP FFS I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING!!

[@WhenMarkers]

"Green! My ass!" 😂😂😂 Iceland being a little green and Greenland being so white. 😂😂😂

[@phaidonpetropoulos9041]

@@WhenMarkers top 10 anime betrayals

[@davidweston9309]

I appreciate your intuitive input and corrections! The story of the pathfinder is also an interesting tale. On a personal note your occasional quips and humor are entertaining!

[@scottt9382]

There should be a Thoughty2 drinking game where everyone takes a sip for each lens flare transition.

[@deathjoker666]

There's a viking burial mound in Minnesota dating way before Columbus' time.

[@thomasblanchard1800]

It's dated 1362, according to a video documentary I saw on this. One thing you can say for Columbus though, is his 'discovery' popularized the New World and led to the first waves of European colonization, for better and worse.

[@ENXNO]

hey thought2, Ive been watching you for a bit and your humor in this video is top notch. great video!

[@9PlatinumGamer9]

This is the first time I've heard a non-Scandinavian pronounce "Leif" correctly and not as Leaf.

[@halocrandsuits]

He’s lowkey not pronouncing it correct but close enough

[@9PlatinumGamer9]

@@halocrandsuits Yes, the "l" is wrong, but mostly correct.

[@halocrandsuits]

Idk man im Norwegian and I’kl give him credits where credits due But still

[@9PlatinumGamer9]

@@halocrandsuits I'm also Norwegian, and I think he pronounced it fine.

[@kenlieck7756]

@@9PlatinumGamer9 I'm a lifelong Texan, but I have been correcting people's pronunciation of the name since the time I hung out with "Wonder Years" actress Olivia D'Abo and her "Spirit of '76" co-star/ex-teen idol Leif Garrett, a really cool, self-depreciating guy who didn't kill anyone the whole time we were together.

[@franz009franz]

there is a possiblity columbus knew about leif's and or brendan's storys btw

[@jonoliahjohn6800]

He probably did. He was a fraud through and through

[@gerRule]

I’ll go with Saint Brendan on that, The Irish not only built America, first they discovered it 🙏🇮🇪🙏

[@hayden3817]

Really thought with the Mongol opening you were gonna talk about the Native-American's and how the got cut off in the America's when the land bridge melted.

[@Kelmorcellus]

Mustache is on point. The wink at the end was wholesome thank you.

[@oorzuis1419]

I went on a self-discovery tour ones 26 years ago and found so-called Brendans ford on the Arron islands looked over the great Atlantic for some hours and went home it was compared to Brendan's trip a small adventure, but it was unforgettable to me.

[@Youbeentagged]

Minor spoilers from Vikings here In season 1, Ragnar's company that discovered England had a guy named Erik, and Erik's son was called Leif (the guy who volunteered to be sacrificed later on). Then, in season 5 or 6, when Bjorn lost the election to become king of all Norway, we see another Erik, whose backstory matches Erik the red's, who is also killed later on. The show is great, but I'd like another one that is more historically accurate. I understand that Viking records don't exist, and all sources were either foreign, or were gathered from stories (which have a tendency to change as time goes on).

[@jamm6431]

No mention of prince madoc, albeit after Leif it is said he travelled to America 300 years before Columbus.

[@khorps4756]

or the Carthaginians

[@boogiemcsploogie]

It depends. Or if you choose to believe the theory that the Dark Ages were made up (Fomenkology) this places Madoc ap Owen Gwynedd in the 6th century. But yeah, those Phoenecians...

[@joebloggs5318]

The Welshman who found America was Richard Ameryk. Cymru am byth motherfuckers!!

[@brianarbenz7206]

Madoc was just a legend. No such person existed.

[@AcidRain09]

@@brianarbenz7206 he did. He was in the A Team... if you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire... the vikings

[@TheEpicBeastyGamerPlays]

@Thoughty2 - You truly are a genius teacher, you make history fascinating to learn about! Another very entertaining doccie film...not simply a KZbin video, you are in a category of your own Sir, great admiration! 😁👌

[@O-Dsessyus]

You should do a video on Hybrasil, the mythical Island off of Ireland, clearly shown on old maps back in the 1400s and maybe older. There are sea mounts, but they go back to the last ice age.

[@robertkimmel5416]

I truly enjoy all of your videos, sir. You are a very intelligent, thoughtful and creative KZbinr. I surely hope you plan on continuing pumping out your incredible content.😊 My only question for this video is this: Why did the Indians never get credit for the discovery as they were here first, well before Columbus and likely even before the Vikings? They really got a raw deal on this end.🤬

[@dragijakimov]

the 'Indians are believed to have got there during the ice age from the easternmost point in russia to alaska.This was well before the vikings or the irish (it was more than 10 thousand years before them) but since when they discovered it they just forgot about the old world. It doesn't count because it didnt connect the 2 worlds (if it wasnt for columbus, the irish or the vikings we wouldn't have known that america existed).

[@DerFilc]

Title: The TRUE Discoverer of America Is NOT Who You Think Me: Yeah yeah, not Columbus but Vikings or the Natives that lived there obviously Video Starts: THE MONGOL EMPIRE Me: Did not expect that

[@zandlox]

underrated comment

[@dankpepe2110]

I love it. He was like Michael of Vsauce. Lmao

[@ejokurirulezz]

ancient greeks in the minoan era in the bronze age were trading gold in the coasts where canada is now, so yeah. way before the mongol empire was formed and expanded

[@welbyncastro9169]

They could barely get close to Japan having lost two fleets in typhoons. Let alone across the pacific to west north america.

[@Vezmus1337]

And here I was thinking the Native Americans discovered America

[@anitaschvitz9749]

@Louis van der Merwe Awwww look at you trying to sound smart with your bad grammar, misplaced punctuations, the dot dot dot that doesn't quite fit and the fake news history lesson that was, well, sad. We know who you voted for

[@anitaschvitz9749]

@Louis van der Merwe Really?? You've been spending all this time trying to respond? and getting cut off?? I melted you that much and was even allowed to know??? OK...I'm done laughing now...Thanks, I needed that

[@Plutonium2000]

He repeatedly said the he is talking about the first European discovering America

[@anitaschvitz9749]

@@Plutonium2000 Ya...Every white guy talks about the white guy that found America.

[@jellyneck7978]

They werent too native at the time. Hence the discovery. So to say it was "native americans" doesnt answer the question. Someone from Siberia or Indonesia would be more accurate.(probably siberia)

[@gpksong]

Columbus sailed west and southwest, not northwest. The Northwest Passage was only a term to describe sailing into the arctic after the discovery of the Americas and the realization that it was not the East Indies, something Colombus did not live long enough to understand. He thought he had reached Asia until his death, although he did realize that the lands were "unknown" parts of the Asian world. He had no idea the Pacific ocean existed to the west of Cuba and the Carribean.

[@inkognito3145]

"how can you discover something when there are people already there?" -Neil DeGrasse Tyson on Columbus

[@MyFoxworld]

Well if the rest of the world don't know that the place exists then the people don't really exist either! 🤷 if we used Tyson's logic then we would never have a missing person in the world as we would just say: sure they know themselves were they are and so they are not missing. So there is no point trying to discover where they might be. 🤔

[@inkognito3145]

@@MyFoxworld yeah true but America wasn’t missing it just wasn’t there out of European perspective

[@MyFoxworld]

@@inkognito3145 That reminds me of the Question: before Mount Everest was discovered, what was the highest mountain in the world? 🙃

[@robertkinslow8953]

Have tyson pull up maps of the time and before and prove what he says

[@inkognito3145]

@@robertkinslow8953 what

[@danteadascalitei9406]

Also I saw there was evidence of a very old Irish writing system being found in different places in America, it being considered one of the most unique writing systems so yeah definitely an interesting idea.

[@lostinthemoonlight]

“Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.”

[@nuclearsenshi]

if you control present u still control future tho

[@lostinthemoonlight]

Music Education: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJDdqpVjjb2KsJI

[@nicolavanrhyn1726]

Now testify.

[@jnws30]

I fell asleep during this and had a dream. I was on a boat doing Marine recovery and learning about all the history we were recovering from. Quite magical.

[@jessicagunn3870]

Given the language connection between Algonquin and Gaelic I think it's safe to say the Gaelic speaking Irish definitely got there fairly early on, lol

[@Crimea_River]

There seems to be a pattern with men who are capable of doing extraordinary things also do unspeakably terrible things.

[@brigidtheirish]

Why else would they go to so much trouble to leave civilization far, far, *far* behind?

[@jayreagan5999]

Give a man power and watch him abuse it. Power is inherently corruptible for all humans. Its just... nature 🤷‍♂️ it happens every single time without exceptions.

[@chuckharness1927]

Thoughty, I can’t begin to say how much I really love your KZbin videos. I grew up in Columbus Indiana and my dreams came true last year! I hate that slaving racist killing machine. Chris spent 6.5 years in prison once he returned to Europe. Because he enslaved gold miners. You should have mentioned that. Chris did time.

[@madhouze1]

The Voyage of St Brendan was the inspiration for the album "Beyond These Shores" by the British band Iona.

[@georgianbents]

What about the Egyptians being in the Grand Canyon and leaving all kinds of artifacts, structures and art?

[@ShadowWolfPrince]

Now I finally get that Spongebob reference “Happy Leif Erikson day!”

[@ejokurirulezz]

who is still not the first.

[@BelcarrigFarm]

Ding a ding a Bergen

[@RestingBitchface7]

In the United States, 4th grade circa 1976, we were still taught that Eric the Red/Leif Erickson discovered the Eastern end of Turtle Island, and the Mongols had discovered the Northwest end over the Straight thousands of years before. Then in the 6th grade we were taught - complete with videos - that the Aztecs and the Mayans had homed the Southwestern section of the continent and that the Umatilla Nation had come to the Southeast from this people, and all intermingled together over centuries and branched out well before Columbus ever existed. To this day, I think Columbus Day is stupid.

[@Logan_93]

We call them roundabouts here in Minnesota too. Never heard anyone say traffic circle.

[@spacewater7]

Seems to me that St. Brendan may have found Prince Edward Island, home millennia later by Anne (spelt with an e) of Green Gables. Just saying.

[@th3ninja327]

This is why I celebrate Leif Erikson day every year on October 9th

[@BelcarrigFarm]

Ding a ding a Bergen

[@gacharaya1712]

I bet the people who disliked the video are flat earthers 😂

[@rootpower8664]

Nah, probably the people who are destroying statues lol

[@Onepieceistheworstfuckinganime]

Ok

[@justinboivin]

I disliked it because it glosses over the fact that people were already here.

[@rootpower8664]

@@justinboivin Europeans didn't know the continent existed and the video is about who was the first European to discover it's existence. The fact that people already lived in America at the time is irrelevant to the video.

[@justinboivin]

@@rootpower8664 Still a little eurocentric if you ask me. I think people already living somewhere is pretty relevant when you're claiming to "discover" land.

[@JavnuteeGaming]

In New England (where I was born) we call Roundabout's "Rotaries"

[@maud3444]

The French basque are said to have discovered the America's before Columbus aswell. They just followed whales across the Atlantic Ocean. In the early 16th century there was this English explorer (I forgot his name) who was mapping the coastline of North America when suddenly he came across basque whalers.... in a place where Europeans weren't supposed to be. The whalers told him they were coming to this bay for generations.. Don't know if it's true or not. I wasn't there, but I remember my professor telling us about it when I was studying history at the university. It always fascinated me Edit: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Basque_whaling (Early Claims)

[@sunnevastalina]

According to Íslendingabók (Book of Iceland) and a handful of other sources, there were Celtic monks, referred to as Papar (Popers), living in Iceland by the time the Vikings first arrived. Once the vikings began to settle the Irishmen packed their stuff and sailed back to Ireland because they "didn't want to live amongst pagan men". Archaeologists have found a cave carving in Krýsuvík, Iceland, of a Celtic cross that is said to likely have been carved by this order of monks since similar carvings have been found in Irish caves. They were said to have left behind a lot of bells (klukkur) which they threw into a single particular spot before leaving but I assume that the Vikings just melted them down for tools, weapons and armor since no such bells have been found so far. Despite the scarcity of archaeological evidence, the existence of these Celtic monks isn't really a matter for debate in Icelandic history classes and is considered to most likely be true.