Contrary to what many people think, "Ancient Greek" is not a dead language. Language is a living entity and it changes and evolves over the course of time, and this is precisely the case with the Greek language. Ancient Greek with its different dialects evolved to Koine Greek which eventually evolved into medieval Greek or Byzantine Greek, which ultimately developed into what we know today as modern Greek. Hope you enjoy this one and if you want to participate in future video please contact me on Instagram.
@anasetrakian33762 жыл бұрын
😍😍😍
@anasetrakian33762 жыл бұрын
Nicomachus was actually the father and son of Aristotle so they're both right 😀
@fatosshubert72722 жыл бұрын
Do you mean “Attica” as ancient?
@athina17392 жыл бұрын
@@anasetrakian3376 exactly I remembered after the filming of the video 😅❤️
@igliduka9812 жыл бұрын
Try albanian mabye it will help you guys😉
@athina17392 жыл бұрын
Hello everyone ❤️ This is Athina from the video. I hope everyone enjoyed this video and learned something new.I would like to clarify that I used the "modern" day pronunciation of ancient Greek meaning the pronunciation that we are being taught in schools today in the ancient Greek subject. That being said we are not using the Erasmian pronunciation that many people may know:). I hope I did well on the video. A big big thank you to Bahador for giving me the opportunity to experience this beautiful process and a big thanks to Nikos and Stavros. Xoxoxo❤️
@pierreabbat61572 жыл бұрын
I noticed your pronunciation is modern. If you had used a mid-Koine or Classical pronunciation, how well would they have understood? My pronunciation started out modern, but I've added /y/ (to distinguish ημεις from υμεις), vowel length (-ετε from -εται), and pitch accent (which I sometimes forget). I read mostly the NT; the quotes you said are a bit older. You may want to check out the Lucian pronunciation on Luke Ranieri's channels.
@athina17392 жыл бұрын
@@pierreabbat6157 Hello Pierre thank u for the suggestion i will definitely take a look:). Regarding your question about the mid-koine or classical pronunciation i believe that it would have been more challenging to understand because 1)for some letters we can only make assumptions on how they were pronounced and 2)in schools we are being taught according to the modern day pronunciation:) i hope my reply helps a bit more. Also in modern day Greek all of these: ι,η,υ,οι,ει are pronounced the same. So unfortunately the long and short distinguish of vowels in the pronunciation has been lost:(.
@MrAllmightyCornholioz2 жыл бұрын
ZEUS BLESS YOU!
@BahadorAlast2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Athina ♥️🙏
@anasetrakian33762 жыл бұрын
You're so talented Athina! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@TMPOUZI Жыл бұрын
That proves that Greek is one evolving language. These guys were clueless in ancient Greek, they didn't even know the word 'gar" (well, because) or ouk (not), yet they managed to translate or get a complete meaning of Plato and Homer in such a short time, without even seeing it writen
@voqsonofnone78911 ай бұрын
actually the words 'arage'=ara+ge(similar to Ancient 'gar'=ge+ara) and 'ochi'(from Ancient ouk,ou,ouchi) are still in use
@ΝίκοςΜπέτσης-ΗΠΑ10 ай бұрын
All languages are evolving. Greek can be proven that it is evolving as we have written records of it for millennia and we can compare it during the course of time.
@Myndir7 ай бұрын
Greece was also part of Turkey until the Turks/Greek Muslims were banished from their homeland, so naturally their culture has changed.
@maggiemakeupnails10566 ай бұрын
@@Myndir Said the Turkalbanian.
@paganpoet32 ай бұрын
@@Myndir ..You are totaly ingnorant about historical events ... Greece never was a part "of Turkey". Turkey is a state that was established in 1923. You are comfusing Turkey to Ottoman Empire. Nobody was "banished from their homelad". Muslims of Greece were exchanged 100% peacefully by the exchange of population of Greece and Turkey in 1923. On the other hand more than 1 million Greeks of Anatolia toghethers with 3 millin Armenians and 500k Asyrians faced genocide and they literaly vanished from the face of earth from 1913 to 1925. Greeks are there for at least 3.000 years. Mongols came to Anatolia the last 800 years. If you don't like it any more you are free to go back to Turkmenistan and the Altaic mountains. In modern day Turkey after all is like 90% NON TURKIC ethinc population ....
@minaal-lami28552 жыл бұрын
Wow!! That's so fascinating and I loved Athina ❤ As a native Arabic speaker I know there's a lot of history between Arabic and Greek dating back to many centuries ago. Greek was a lingua franca in many parts of the Middle East.
@athina17392 жыл бұрын
Salam Mina❤️thank u so much for the comment, it's me Athina btw. Arabic is my favorite language and one of the reasons i love it is exactly because of the reason u mentioned. Also in Greek we have so many Arabic derived words ❤️
@athina17392 жыл бұрын
@Animal&NatureLoverGuy88 I know some words in Arabic that derive from Greek actually:) for example "daftar" (notebook) comes from the Greek word "difteron" which means "having 2 sides". That was said to me by my Arabic language teacher who's from Lebanon:)
@minaal-lami28552 жыл бұрын
@@athina1739 Salam!! Wow!! You're so awesome. That's so heartwarming 🤗❤ We also have Greek words in Arabic! In love Greek so much 😍😍
@minaal-lami28552 жыл бұрын
@@athina1739 btw daftar is actually a Persian word that entered to Arabic. We use many Persian words in our Iraqi dialect of Arabic so I used to think daftar is just used in Iraqi but it's in standard Arabic.
@SpartanLeonidas18212 жыл бұрын
@@athina1739 Yes, you are correct, like the words Magazi or Rezili for example all have ultimate origins from Arabic! 👍
@dragasan2 жыл бұрын
You outdid yourself on this one! Wow! Such intelligence and kindness. I really enjoyed it. Thanks!
@elizaa.3672 жыл бұрын
One of the most creative and inspiring nations in the world. You’re one of a kind, Greece. Ζήτω η Ελλάδα! 🇬🇷✨
@panajotispapagiannopoulos25792 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏❤
@scintillam_dei2 жыл бұрын
@@panajotispapagiannopoulos2579 Some of the conquistadores were from Greece. Portugal likes to claim to have been the discovererrer of the fact that the Indian Ocean is connected to the Atlantic but an ancient Greek called Eratosthenes figured that out centuries prior. Glad that Spanish sounds like Greek to a great extent. A lot of -os endings for example.
@user-bj9or7ke3u2 жыл бұрын
@@scintillam_dei China like 9000 years ago
@scintillam_dei2 жыл бұрын
@@user-bj9or7ke3u Nature didn't exist 9000 years ago as I proved in my series crushing atheist myths. To rely on their date claims of millions of years is like believing that eggs in a working washing machine won't break in a millino years, and decay at a normal rate.
@supermavro60722 жыл бұрын
Yeah....the most creative nation specially when it comes to Debt fraud and Tax evasion.
@charlieg22622 жыл бұрын
This is great! Would be really interesting to get a native Cypriot, or even a speaker of another dialect of Greek & someone who speaks Ancient Greek too, as those dialects has a lot of ‘archaic’ words like πόθεν etc
@oNikolaos2 жыл бұрын
It's really easy for us Cypriots, because we use the ancient syntax in our dialect. If you also attend the Holy Liturgy on Sundays- always performed in 1st century Ancient Greek , which is much easier by the way- you understand the meaning instantly, 90% of the times.
@olgapapadopoulpou11422 жыл бұрын
also the Greek Pontian dialect is similar to the ancient Greek language..maybe much more similar than Cypriot dialect..
@armajhkc609 Жыл бұрын
@@oNikolaos I think the Greek Cypriots are the closest to the ancient Greeks
@louisfisher6142 жыл бұрын
A very influential language that shaped our civilization 🇬🇷
@supermavro60722 жыл бұрын
Lol, which civiIization ?
@andrkonst99102 жыл бұрын
@@supermavro6072 Α ρε Μαύρε Αλβανέ
@yousuf63822 жыл бұрын
It seems that the Greek language to the Christian civilization is the same as the Arabic to the Islamic civilization
@supermavro60722 жыл бұрын
@@yousuf6382 You out of your mind ? Greek have no importance to any christians.
@eleftheria91792 жыл бұрын
@@supermavro6072 yeah right! That's why you read about Thessalonians, Corinthians etc etc! Because apostol Paul came elsewhere! Definitely not in Greece! Why should Greeks matter to any Christian?
@emmahirschfeld75422 жыл бұрын
This was so fun and enjoyable. As a beginner level Greek student very useful as well. Thank you ❤🇬🇷
@damien.bonneau2 жыл бұрын
how refreshing is this channel! Big up and cheers from France
@aprendoespanol68332 жыл бұрын
as an Indian, I find it interesting that we have Unani (literally Greek) system of medicine. It's even officially taught in university and practiced.
@michaelpolyakov28272 жыл бұрын
Really interesting! You mean that Indian medical students have to learn Ancient Greek?
@aprendoespanol68332 жыл бұрын
@@michaelpolyakov2827 Not the Greek language but ancient Greek system of medicine. This was adopted by Arabs/Persians and developed further (by well known people like Ibn Sina). Arabs/Persians then brought it to India where it is practiced as a traditional medicinal system alongside Ayurveda. Indeed, in India, official degrees are offered for Unani and Ayurveda systems of medicine. And it is legally practiced. Some basic info on wiki - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unani_medicine
@aan29602 жыл бұрын
@@michaelpolyakov2827 Or known as Muslim medicine
@supermavro60722 жыл бұрын
Many Greeks today have lndian ancestry
@aan29602 жыл бұрын
@@supermavro6072 no muslim invasion
@user-zh7yr1up8g2 жыл бұрын
This is amazing!! I enjoyed every minute of it. ❤🇬🇷🇬🇷❤
@MrEVAQ2 жыл бұрын
6:22 They are both right. Apparently Nicomachus is the name of both the father of Aristotle and his son.
@GeoBBB1232 жыл бұрын
Typical of Greeks even today!
@srfrg97072 жыл бұрын
The grandson took the name of his grandpa as it's still the custom in modern Greece.
@supermavro60722 жыл бұрын
@@srfrg9707 ???
@observer84772 жыл бұрын
@@supermavro6072 hate doesnt belong here,cause again today greeks almost always the son takes the name of his grandfather like Aristotle and his son.so again you dont make sense jumping in every positive coment about modern greeks and ancient ones.so keep your hate to your heart,doesnt belong here in a positive video your black heart...
@tobiasboston7795 Жыл бұрын
@@observer8477 his name even suggests it, super mavro, mavro=black 🤣🤣
@mariabirakis5375 Жыл бұрын
I thoroughly enjoyed trying to find the meaning in modern greek. A great exercise to sharpen the mind
@naamashang51072 жыл бұрын
I always love your videos, and thanks for yet another great one. This one is especially close to my heart, as I am a student of modern Greek. I am also fascinated by ancient Greek and the similarities and differences. Thank you to everyone who participated and Athena, you were brilliant.
@DennisGranahan-e9h2 ай бұрын
Very interesting, Greek is much older than I realized. I am studying Koine now and a little modern Greek on duolingo. It is language rich in meaning. ❤❤❤
@samspear87722 жыл бұрын
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. - Aristotle
@sepidehzandi1392 жыл бұрын
Love you Greece! Our historical enemeies and contemporary friends 😁 Greetings to our ancient rivals from Iran ❤
@srfrg97072 жыл бұрын
The "enemy" part is really old history now! The last battle between the two empires took place at Ninive (or Niniveh) in the year 621 (Byzantines won of course😁) and a peace treaty was signed the next year putting an end to wars that started in 547 before Christ when Cyrus II annexed the kingdom of Lydia. Greeks have a huge respect for the Persian culture. ❤
@seanfitzgerald29462 жыл бұрын
@@srfrg9707 I believe that's why she said "historical", insinuating a form of joke I believe, as it is common knowledge that the Persians today have lots of love for Greeks.
@kokosgr2 жыл бұрын
I have an Iranian friend here in Greece from the childhood!! You are very cultured and intellectual people!! And of course very good food!!
@supermavro60722 жыл бұрын
Modern Greeks have NO connection to Ancient Greek, infact modern Greeks are more related to Persians than the ancient ones. So technically, we are never friends or enemies.
@georgiosdoumas24462 жыл бұрын
@@supermavro6072 Who says "have no connection"? The DNA results show a lot of resemblance. See the researches from Triandafillidis and others. Since also our language does not differ a lot from the ancient one (I would say it is more than 50% understandable to modern Greeks) my estimation is that we (modern Greeks) are from 50-80% (depending on the person) similar DNA to ancient Greeks. Of course I do not consider Antetokoumpo (a basketball player) a modern Greek, he is Nigerian from both parents.
@berkcandar80132 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and cool! Love from Turkey ❤🇬🇷🇹🇷❤
@wankawanka30532 жыл бұрын
Respect 🇬🇷🤝🇹🇷
@minaal-lami28552 жыл бұрын
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@panajotispapagiannopoulos25792 жыл бұрын
🙏🙏❤🇹🇷🇬🇷❤
@Xarmutinha2 жыл бұрын
Canııııım
@supermavro60722 жыл бұрын
Greeks and Turx are the same people.
@wallycall2 жыл бұрын
While I enjoy the virtual videos, I do really miss the in-person ones before the pandemic. I hope you can gradually introduce some of these every now and then. It had a fun, spontaneous atmosphere to it that virtual ones can't really convey. It just felt really personal and homely. The nonverbal communication through body language really complemented the in-person videos. I miss seeing the interactions, lighthearted competition and scores, the laughs, and spending my weekend mornings watching the latest video. They were so beautifully produced. It just hits different. Love your content regardless and I understand it limits videos you can produce participants having to be relatively local. Looking forward to the day it comes back even if it's just once every so often!
@grigortamazyan11 ай бұрын
Hello from Armenia. I have Pontic Greek Heritage, it would be very interesting to know about differences of Pontic Greek and Modern Greek Language
@eugeniakatsafadou3313 ай бұрын
Pontic greek is generally much more conservative when compared to modern greek and it is much closer to the ancient greek language.
@geogeo22997 күн бұрын
Hello brother, Pontic is a Greek dialect and not a language. It has minor differences with modern Greek, I think a simple search here on YT would prove helpful.
@anneonymous48842 жыл бұрын
Could you do something similar with Koine Greek or Byzantine Greek? I loved this!
@fanaticofmetal2 жыл бұрын
Modern Greeks would understand more Koine Greek than Attic Greek since Modern Greek developed from Koine Greek
@imperator78282 жыл бұрын
Medieval Greek as in the one spoken by the people is almost precisely the same as modern just with some spelling differences and idioms. Some linguists place the beginning of modern greek in the 11th-12th century.
@supermavro60722 жыл бұрын
@@fanaticofmetal Totally false. None of them are undestandable. I am Greek speaker myseIf.
@nicklandrou52332 жыл бұрын
@@supermavro6072 Koine Greek is very understandable from a modern Greek speaker, which I am as well.
@supermavro60722 жыл бұрын
@@nicklandrou5233 Bs, then tell me what's written on roseta stone ?
@wardafournello Жыл бұрын
Of all the peoples, only the Greeks ,without having been taught ancient Greek, can read and understand several texts written in their language 2300 years ago, in koine Greek. The explanation is simple. The liturgy in the church takes place in koine Greek even today. In the language in which the Gospels were written.
@E45F67810 ай бұрын
Yes, Greek is a very conservative language. The vast majority of Modern Greek vocabulary is derived from Ancient Greek.
@Tom_908 ай бұрын
Jews??
@wardafournello8 ай бұрын
@@Tom_90 The Hebrew language, , was revived at the end of the 19th century. by the Jewish linguist Eliezer Ben-Yehuda because of the development of Zionist ideology. Ben-Jehuda founded in 1889 in Jerusalem the "Council of the Hebrew Language" with the aim of reviving Biblical Hebrew, which had been NO LONGER SPOKEN for 1700 years. Eventually, Hebrew came to replace several other languages spoken by Jews at the time, such as Latino (Spanish-Jewish language), Yiddish (German-Jewish language), Russian, as well as other languages of the Diaspora.
@dimitriskarathanasis42307 ай бұрын
@@wardafournello his son - Eliezer Ben-Yehuda - is the first modern Jew to speak Hebrew as a mother tongue in 1,700 years
@skyofforest7 ай бұрын
Arabs can speak and understand ancient arabic to a very good level
@sydsydlender4194 Жыл бұрын
My wife is iranian. As a greek, I find greek people having many common traits with iranian people as inheritants of ancient civilizations. Odyssey and Iliad and works by Kazantzakis are well known and easy to be found in bookshops and street book vendors. In iran there is the konkur exam which is the university entrance exam like panellinies in greece where ancient greek is one of the subjects given for people who want to pursue studies such as law, litterature, philosophy and other so called classical studies. The unbreakable continuation from ancient to modern greek in terms of preserving the alphabet and the vocabulary over thousands of years is quite unique. A very large number of international scientific terms in virtually all disciplines have greek origin.
@ayhankaracaoglu68457 ай бұрын
all baseless, we are in a world of fake identities. Neither Greeks are Greek, they are Rums of mid and east Türkiye, and nor Persians are are Persian but ajem-tajik-dari of mid and east iran. Today the language spoken in Greece not ancient Greek but Rum language and same in iran,
@andrem140325 күн бұрын
@@ayhankaracaoglu6845 By the way, did you take a DNA test? Maybe you are a Rumi and since the Rumi were mainly Yunan ("Ιωνες", regardless of whether they were Muslim or Christian) that is, Greeks, you are probably Greek, but they forced your ancestors to dress in barbaric culture. After all, the modern Greek language is the same as the ancient one but with some differences. This is also the reason that in the video, even though they only listened to the ancient ones, they were able to explain the sentences.
@ayhankaracaoglu684515 күн бұрын
@@andrem1403 whataboutism idiocy ! You can be a Turk seed.
@JeremyBaconThe1st13 күн бұрын
@@ayhankaracaoglu6845 Do you Muslims suddenly explode in the wild?
@loraivanova8635 Жыл бұрын
I'm here just to say that I'm a Bulgarian who has been learning Greek for like 8 years (4 at university) and I was so excited to see a Greek who is learning Bulgarian! 💙 Good luck, Nikos. Also I used to study Ancient Greek at university but well let's say ancient languages aren't my thing. 😅
@xxxxneoxxxx2 жыл бұрын
I've been a linguistics enthusiast like for ever. I stumbled upon this video and fell in love with the content instantly. New sub, here. Warm regards from Peru! Saludos, causa! Jajaja. See you un another video.
@greendro64102 жыл бұрын
This was really interesting to see. 🙂
@amranibrahimrashidi Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this amazing channel that create history with the many beautiful languages in the world. Let us unite together!!!!
@jmudikun2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Bahador 😊 another awesome episode
@Giocrete Жыл бұрын
great video Bahador !! thanks a lot for that !!!
@Образованиесила2 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Tajiks (Eastern Iranians) to our ancient enemies and current friends from Greece.🤝 The wife of Alexander the Great Roxana was from our people. Alexander the Great was our enemy, but he was a worthy enemy. Peace and prosperity to the Greek people!🌹🌹🌹 From Tajikistan
@nurettinsarul2 жыл бұрын
Alexander the great was a Macedonian, not Greek.
@wankawanka30532 жыл бұрын
@@nurettinsarul lol turk you have no say in this Alexander was macedonian therefore greek 😉 he only spread greek culture and nothing else ,you can keep supporting your slavic friends who have zero connection to him (these were the words of their first president by the way)😁
@papazataklaattiranimam2 жыл бұрын
@@wankawanka3053 he is right. He was Hellenic and his language was not intelligible to other Hellenes :)
@apmoy702 жыл бұрын
@@nurettinsarul Source? Trust me bro?
@Образованиесила2 жыл бұрын
@@ir20st Ok😁
@deanronson63312 жыл бұрын
Since high school in this country and across the world serves as preparation for college for many students, Ancient Greek and Latin should be taught to the entire student body for at least two semesters. Kids at that age are unaware how much of the Western lexicon stems from those two languages and how much easier it would be for them to have at least some ready references in their heads once they are confronted with all the heavy terminology in their fields of study.
@christinalovers71922 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro, I'm also half Assyrian and half Armenia, but I grew up in Israel as a Jew orthodox Christian, but I live in Athens Greece now. So I know Assyrian, Hebrew, Arabic, Persian, Greek and some Armenian language 🇮🇱🕎🔯💯👌🇦🇲🇬🇷☦️
@Kurdedunaysiri2 жыл бұрын
What is a Jew Christian ?
@chinchin91442 жыл бұрын
@@Kurdedunaysiri An oxymoron
@scintillam_dei2 жыл бұрын
See my video "Zionism is Heresy." God will destroy anti-Christ Israel. It is in a prophecy. This is the Ishmael before the Isaac, the man-made before the God-made, the sinner-produced before the divine, the lie before the truth.
@scintillam_dei2 жыл бұрын
@@BlueOcean696 FREE ASSYRIA FROM KURDISH CONTROL! :-)
@songcramp662 жыл бұрын
@@chinchin9144 Literally all the first Christians were Jews. Judaism is a religion but being Jewish tends to be ethnicity. Just like Arabs don't necessarily have to be Muslim though they almost always are, it's the same thing.
@gloriamccarthy4802 жыл бұрын
Marvelous job by everyone!! Thank you for the highly educational content!! 💓
@hassanalast66702 жыл бұрын
Good to know about Modern and Ancient language.
@enemarius Жыл бұрын
Beautiful content and discussion.
@SamKhan-kb3kg2 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine once said, “Language is a living fossil”
@zeyadyahya11802 жыл бұрын
Oh that's a great video! 👏 I actually read a lot about Greek ☀️ it's an amazing language indeed 👏 and we already borrowed many words from ancient Greek in Arabic ✅
@panajotispapagiannopoulos25792 жыл бұрын
And vice versa we have words from Arabic. I really love the Arabic language!
@zeyadyahya11802 жыл бұрын
@@panajotispapagiannopoulos2579 yea that's awesome! We have words like :qalem (pen) albarquq (plum). Aroz (oruza) =rice also other ones about science like alchemy, elixir etc those entered Latin via Arabic. 🌼🌞
@sofiakonermann23082 жыл бұрын
@@zeyadyahya1180 Yor Ar Lass Not arab
@ayhankaracaoglu6845 Жыл бұрын
They arenot the same people, ancient Greeks extinct in history abt 2500 years ago.Todays Greeks are the Rums of eastern and mid Türkiye transferred to GR after1830s acc to western "Greek Project"
@nikostheofanidis9970 Жыл бұрын
This is with modern accent. Ancient Greeks had a completely different accent from the one we have today's Greeks. Type Podium-Arts Aristotle and watch the video (11 minutes long) to hear how ancient Greek was (a Greek speak in the video)
@sgourkon8742 Жыл бұрын
Greek language is not dead as many think. Is like a person that changes hairstyle, puts an earring but the face is the SAME. That happened with Greek language from antiquity. Italian for example is not Latin , it is Latin's daughter/ son.
@supermavro6072 Жыл бұрын
Greek language is dead like the people themsleves. Modern Greeks are Turko-Albanians
@ΕλένηΡοντήρη2 жыл бұрын
Σας γράφω τη γνώμη μου για το πώς μπορούν να αποδοθούν οι φράσεις στα νέα ελληνικά. Δεν είμαι φιλόλογος, προσπάθησα μόνο να θυμηθώ όσα έμαθα στο σχολείο (στην Ελλάδα) πριν πολλά χρόνια. ...επειδή κατά μεγάλο μέρος τα μελλοντικά είναι όμοια με όσα έχουν γίνει. Σκοπός της ζωής δεν πρέπει να είναι η απόκτηση περισσότερων (υλικών αγαθών), αλλά η καλή ζωή. Επίσης (αυτός) είδε πόλεις και γνώρισε νοοτροπία πολλών ανθρώπων. Αν λοιπόν ο θάνατος είναι τέτοιο πράγμα, εγώ και βέβαια λέω ότι είναι κέρδος, επειδή με αυτό τον τρόπο και όλος ο χρόνος δε φαίνεται να είναι τίποτα περισσότερο παρά μία νύχτα.
@nikosnikos81842 жыл бұрын
Μπράβο ελενη
@nikostheofanidis9970 Жыл бұрын
Εγώ σας γράφω την γνώμη μου για το πως πρέπει να προφέρονται, και προφανώς και δεν πρέπει να προφέρονται με την σημερινή νεοελληνική προφορά, οι αρχαιοι ελληνες είχαν τελείως διαφορετική προφορά από αυτήν που έχουμε σήμερα. Γράψε Podium-Arts Aristotle και δες το βίντεο (11 λεπτά είναι) για να ακούσεις πως ήταν (Έλληνας μιλάει στο βίντεο)
@geogeo22997 күн бұрын
@@nikostheofanidis9970 Νίκο έχεις γράψει είκοσι φορές το ίδιο σχόλιο και το παίζεις έξυπνος ενώ δεν ξέρεις τίποτα. Γράψε κι εσύ λοιπόν Historical Greek Pronounciation vs. Erasmian για να μαθαίνεις.
@georget80082 жыл бұрын
When we say "ancient greek" we have to define how "ancient" is the version of the Greek language we refer to. Here, you use the classical Greek version if the 4th-5th century BC. This version is 40-50% intelligible by the modern Greeks.(or less, depending on the level of education) If it was Koine Greek (200BC-300AD), it would have been intelligible at 70-80%. If we take older versions (like that in Linear B ~ 1200BC), it is completely unintelligible. Only the roots of certain key words can be identified by a modern speaker.
@georget80082 жыл бұрын
@@Deepak_Dhakad I have just found in Wikipedia the kadhahar Greek edicts of ashoka. The edicts are written in Koine Greek (the language version that will be later used in the Christian Bible and the gospels). Koine greek is the litourgical language of the greek orthodox church, until today. And yes, I can confirm that I can understand easily a 70% of the text, and the rest 30% can be understood with some more effort at a second reading. Note that I have not studied ancient greek language or literature, since I am a STEM graduate.
@georget80082 жыл бұрын
@@Deepak_Dhakad perhaps, because greek was an "official" language. During the Roman Era, it played the role that today the English language plays all over the world. After the 5th century AD, greek was the official language of the eastern Roman empire (byzantine empire), as well as the liturgical language of the Greek orthodox church. If a language has so many "official" roles, it is standardized and propagated through these official channels and the educational system. That's why it changes at a slower rate than other languages that do not have these characteristics.
@georget80082 жыл бұрын
@@Deepak_Dhakad in our case the official language was also spoken by the common people. In 2nd century bc, the common people was speaking koine Greek. Of course, as the years went by, the common spoken language started to deviate from the written. This linguistic phenomenon is called Diglossia. It is common in languages with very long history (like greek and arabic). However, even then, never the written language was completely unintelligible by a "commoner".
@supermavro60722 жыл бұрын
@@Deepak_Dhakad NO, we can't understand ancient Greek. This guy chatting with you is Iying. Plus modern greek is made up Ianguage. All Greeks used to speak AIvanian just 200 years ago.
@supermavro60722 жыл бұрын
@@georget8008 Stop Iying MaIIaka
@kaushikr89842 жыл бұрын
great video, bahador. I've come ro notice that the south Indian language 'Kannada' , who i am a speaker of, shares a multitude of words with Persian. It would be interesting if you made a video about this.
@fazilkhan67792 жыл бұрын
I am from Karnataka as well who speak Urdu and kannada fluently. There are few common words in both languages. That video would be interesting.
@santusanturohit48322 жыл бұрын
During Bahamani sultanate many Persian words adopted in Kannada language
@karthics46922 жыл бұрын
It is because kannada contains many sanskrit words and sanskrit and persian are close....
@kaushikr89842 жыл бұрын
@@karthics4692 yes that and also, some Arabic and Persian words have entered the language as we had Muslim rulers
@n5alast2 жыл бұрын
I love Greek language. Thank you for the video. 👏👏🙏
@tahsinalphaskoylu8279 Жыл бұрын
I am trying to learn ancient Greek at beginner level. I was wondering how well the modern Greeks understood this. Greetings from opposite shore Turkiye.
@nikostheofanidis9970 Жыл бұрын
This in the video is with modern accent. Ancient Greeks had a completely different accent from the one we have today's Greeks. Type Podium-Arts Aristotle and watch the video (11 minutes long) to hear how ancient Greek was (a Greek speak in the video)
@andrem1403 Жыл бұрын
@@nikostheofanidis9970mal ...es
@maggiemakeupnails10566 ай бұрын
@@nikostheofanidis9970 You are an Albanian who is jealous of Greece with a fake profile using a Greek name and pretending to be Greek. You have no reason to be here. This is where the educated people of the world come to leave an opinion.
@alexandroskatsis864911 ай бұрын
Stavros suprised me as his greek is understandable, for a Greek American grown up in the USA. Being born in Australia with Greek parents, my greek was not a close to Stavros. Well done Stavros
@joeGuizan2 жыл бұрын
Always curious about classical and koine Greek and modern Greek.🔥🔥🔥 Interesting🎉🎉🎉
@yorgunsamuray2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see the modern Greek versions of the sentences too. I'm not a Greek speaker, but the written form would be good for us to compare. Though I must admit that online meeting videos like this makes it easier for participation, I kinda miss those old videos shot in Toronto. Maybe you could shoot some once in a while.
@FreeState.21ST Жыл бұрын
Kinda tough to directly translate from ancient into straight up modern but here it is:1st)Γεγονότα που θα συμβούν στο μέλλον είναι όμοια με γεγονότα έχουν συμβεί/όμοια γεγονότα με αυτά που έχουν συμβεί θα συμβούν και στο μέλλον. 2nd)Αυτό που αξίζει δεν είναι να ζεις για να αποκτήσεις περισσότερα(as in gain more material posessions) αλλά να ζεις καλά. 3rd)Πόλεις ανθρώπων γνώρισε πολλές κι ανθρώπων σκέψεις(refering to the mind and different ways of thinking, σκέψη=thought). 4th) Εάν λοιπόν αυτός είναι ο θάνατος, εγώ λέω πως είναι κέρδος. Γιατί τίποτε περισσότερο δεν φαίνεται να είναι έτσι όλος ο καιρός παρά μια νύχτα.
@aelarisa9832 жыл бұрын
I can understand most of koine greek and much of ancient greek. Medieval/Byzantine greek is completely understandable.
@supermavro60722 жыл бұрын
Stop Iying !!! You can't understand singIe thing
@TMPOUZI2 жыл бұрын
@@supermavro6072 you're a troll. Any Greek can understand Byzantine Greek easily, it's very close to modern greek. Koine Greek is a bit close too. Those guys in the video even made a meaning out of a Homeric text 3500 years old without even seeing it written . Just addmit you a troll
@supermavro60722 жыл бұрын
@@TMPOUZI This Homeric and Byzantine stuff are late medieval works. They are "classical" greek. Not ancient Greek !! Don't you know the meaning of "classic". If you are capable of understanding ancient Greek, then tell me what's written on rosseta stone ?
@TMPOUZI2 жыл бұрын
@@supermavro6072 don't have the time for researching, some of us who are not trolls have to work. Give me the text and I'll translate it to you on the spot
@supermavro60722 жыл бұрын
@@TMPOUZI No serious researcher engage in commentary argument. Lol, you are not researcher, but some kinda nationaIist who wan't to make everyone believe that modern Greek is related to ancient Greek. Lol
@mravalik2 жыл бұрын
I hate that I’m always seeing these videos late 😭 This is very interesting take in the video, because I saw another of a guy asking Greeks of today if they could remember anything they learned about and in Ancient Greek, but to no avail, it wasn’t common. Nonetheless, it’s beautiful to see an ancient language and native speakers challenge themselves with this subject 🙏🏻 Γεια σας φίλο και φίλες, με λένε Κεντ, και μαθαίνω να μιλάω Ελληνικά, Αγάπη από την Αμερική 💙
@geertvlaenckx99422 жыл бұрын
It's very interesting. Having the modern Greek version on the screen would have been helpful to understand the differences.
@NormanF62 Жыл бұрын
It has to do with the sound shift during the Middle Ages that affected pronunciation. Much was lost. You see it in Greek and Hebrew. Modern speakers have an easier time understanding the classical language than it would be the other way around because you have to follow not only the way words are pronounced today but new meanings given to old words and loan words that have come into the language. Nothing remains the same over thousands of years.
@valq10 Жыл бұрын
It seems a bit like Chaucer is to native English speakers, you can get the gist if you have some weird words explained to you and have a bit of time to tune in to the odd syntax and spellings. I guess Greece has just had a written literary culture for so long that their Chaucer moment was 2500 years ago rather than 700.
@barrygaynor10252 жыл бұрын
I'm translating the Gospel of Mark from the ancient Greek texts (my Greek New Testament), and I would appreciate learning how you would translate certain challenging verses and phrases. I'll post them. I also have some questions about which meaning (primary, secondary, tertiary, etc.) the author intended for certain words. I was taught that the case [nominative, genetive, dative, accusative, vocative] and context should help determine this. I'll post some of them.
@edwardmiessner65022 жыл бұрын
Wasn't the Gospel of Mark originally written in Latin by someone who knew Aramaic? I remember René Couchoud wrote a series of papers on it.
@TMPOUZI2 жыл бұрын
@@0752756949 It's true that in many occasions english translation has altered a bit the meaning of the gospels "Μακάριοι οι πτωχοί τω πνεύματι" it doesn't mean "blessed are the poor of spirit" or "blessed are the fools", but it's more like blessed are the ones who they suffer from the lack of divine grace, so they keep wanting it more and more and therefore are always trying to aproach God. The Kingdom of Heaven belongs to them So it's similar to the beggar of the divine spirit you mentioned. Therefore those people are actually wise, certainly not fools or poor of spirit
@ayhankaracaoglu68452 жыл бұрын
Barry, they cannot understand anything, because itsnot same language.
@TMPOUZI2 жыл бұрын
@@ayhankaracaoglu6845 you are wrong ofcourse. For example the gospel 2000 years ago said "Μακάριοι οι πτωχοί τω πνεύματι ότι αυτών έστιν η βασιλεία των ουρανών". Τhe same sentence in modern Greek is "Μακάριοι οι φτωχοί στο πνεύμα, γιατί για αυτούς είναι η βασιλεία των ουρανών" Can you see the clear resemblance? Practically the same language
@sgourkon8742 Жыл бұрын
@@edwardmiessner6502 New Testimony is in Greek ( original i mean, first texts)
@maayanhaza61782 жыл бұрын
A civilization that started in Crete, a Greek island and then spread throughout Europe
@aolbaol29642 жыл бұрын
You mean today Greece.. that island had nothing to do with hellens..was there before them..
@supermavro60722 жыл бұрын
@@aolbaol2964 exactly👍
@andrkonst99102 жыл бұрын
@@aolbaol2964 So do you
@andrkonst99102 жыл бұрын
@@supermavro6072 So do you
@supermavro60722 жыл бұрын
@@andrkonst9910 Who ?
@christsant808Күн бұрын
Solidarity to fellow attorney and half collegue,other half is diplomatic officer..Very interesting channel,my congrats bro
@nikolaosaggelopoulos8113 Жыл бұрын
Testing them on spoken Homeric Greek, without being able to see the written text, was hard core. I am fairly sure they would have no trouble with spoken New Testament Greek. That is also ancient.
@johnjustice84782 жыл бұрын
That was great. And to finish with Socrates was brilliant
@alexj96032 жыл бұрын
I immediately recognized the 3rd sentence, because back in school in Germany we had to memorize the whole passage.
@tonylarsan26822 жыл бұрын
Great job guys, keep creating content like this!!!
@maayanhaza61782 жыл бұрын
The ancient Greeks were active seafarers seeking opportunities for trade and founding new independent cities at coastal sites across the Mediterranean Sea.
@supermavro60722 жыл бұрын
False, ancient Greeks ? You mean Phoenicians ? Yes Phoenicians were active merchants, Are you calling these Phoenicians as Greeks ?
@observer84772 жыл бұрын
@@supermavro6072 hahah!you are something else!greeks also were active across mediterranean sea.you just trying to debunk greeks with your halfway knowledge cause of hate and i think you are not greek as you are saying,every comment you make has some big mistake in it...cheers from a real greek living in greece,educated all greek-hellenic history.the real one...
@supermavro60722 жыл бұрын
@@observer8477 seriously, you call this nationaIist bs "real" History ? LOl
@noraanderson35032 жыл бұрын
@@supermavro6072 in modern Greek there is a word that characterizes you perfectly. Κομπλεξικός 😆
@armajhkc609 Жыл бұрын
The Phoenicians, not the Greeks
@user-zh7yr1up8g2 жыл бұрын
Actually both Athina and Nikos are correct about that 👍🏼 Aristotle's son and father had the same name 😁
@spaolozzi532 жыл бұрын
It was not uncommon in Classical Greece for sons to carry the name of their grandfather, e.g. Pericles' father and one of his sons were both Xanthippos.
@emmahirschfeld75422 жыл бұрын
@@spaolozzi53 Interesting
@SpartanLeonidas18212 жыл бұрын
@@spaolozzi53 It is a tradition that has carried on into the modern age actually where the son names their son after their father…still happens in Greece today, although some are beginning to change that.
@srfrg97072 жыл бұрын
@@spaolozzi53 I carry the name of my grandfather as many Greeks still do.
@supermavro60722 жыл бұрын
@@spaolozzi53 Do you know what the term "Classical" means ?
@EthemD2 жыл бұрын
This was great topic, Bahador, well done you three! 😁 I was always wondering how understandable ancient Greek was to modern Greek speakers. Someone once even said Cypriot Greek is very close to Ancient Greek, how true is that? Language is indeed a living entity and it is important to appreciate where everything originates from. 😊 I picked Latin when I was at middle school and was asked many times why, but it has helped me understand a lot of new words in countless occasions.
@louismichael68432 жыл бұрын
The syntax is almost the same ...Greek Cypriot here.
@marcelfr902 жыл бұрын
Greek Cypriots are the only ones left who pronounce the double consonants like the ancient Greeks did.
@olgapapadopoulpou11422 жыл бұрын
indeed Cypriot language( greek dialect) is very close to ancient Greek language and also the Greek Pontian dialect is very similar to the ancient Greek language.
@Arissef Жыл бұрын
@@louismichael6843 How can the syntax be almost the same when the Ancient Greek had 10 infinitives while the Modern Greek has ... none? Do you still use accusativus cum infinitivo, genitivus absolutus, the dative case, participium coniunctum and all the other stuff in Modern Greek? I mean you still say Ὄνομά μοι Λουίσιος? (=the name for me Louis [is])
@TMPOUZI Жыл бұрын
@@Arissef We say 'onoma mou, Loukios' yes but in everyday speech we add the article 'to' and the verb 'ine', so its 'to onoma mou ine Loukios". In ancient Greek it would be "Onoma moi Lukius estin". Yes today in MG there are still relics of infinitive and dative and other goodies (like ouden, gar, ouk, de, eis, para, meta, arti, eos, en to etc) in some phrases, if not many I'd say. Especially in legal or formal papers you see it all the time in phrases. Katharevousa which was an artificial dialect spoken officialy in Greece up to the 1970's helped restore many features from AG and influenced deeply Demotic (vulgar) Greek. I'm an engineer and when I write papers I use many ancient grammar or vocabulary myself. Everyone understands it, I don't get my papers returned ever!
@doncorleone30822 жыл бұрын
Incredibly excited!! 🎉🎉
@Desidarius_Erasmus992 жыл бұрын
Mathematicians can easily pronounce the Greek names here irrespective of their linguistic identity . We are raised learning new Greek letters 😂😂 everyday .
@scintillam_dei2 жыл бұрын
Typical English-speakers butcher Latin, so they would butcher Greek as well.
@ayhankaracaoglu68452 жыл бұрын
They are not Greek but they are Phonecean Letters
@Desidarius_Erasmus992 жыл бұрын
@@ayhankaracaoglu6845 Are you sure ? α,β,γ,δ,θ,η,ζ,ξ,ε,ρ,τ,υ none of these are Greek words ?
@ayhankaracaoglu68452 жыл бұрын
@@Desidarius_Erasmus99 Yes I am sure, this is Phonecean alphabet and invented by phoneceans, ancient Greeks taken this alphabet from phoneceans. They are extinct in history. Fake Greeks are people who are sociologically engineered from Rums of mid and east Türkiye according to western "Greek Proje ct" around 1820s-30s.
@supermavro60722 жыл бұрын
@@Desidarius_Erasmus99 Yes, they are all Phoenician.
@snopure Жыл бұрын
I'll probably find this out soon enough, but have you done a video yet regarding the more ancient forms of English? It'd be interesting to observe how modern English, German, and Dutch speakers would react to sentences read from Chaucer, the Heliand, or Beowulf; maybe also include someone from one of the Scandinavian countries and analyze the Wanderer.
@panajotispapagiannopoulos25792 жыл бұрын
Έχετε κάνει πολύ καλή δουλειά 👐👌 So happy to see this Bahador and just can't thank you enough for the amazing presentation 🙏
@thierryjean74557 ай бұрын
J apprends le grec ancien et votre cours m aide beaucoup merci beaucoup
@PANAGIOTIS_KORKODELAKIS2 жыл бұрын
Quite easily to understand those phrases..as a greek ..
@supermavro60722 жыл бұрын
Big Iie
@PANAGIOTIS_KORKODELAKIS2 жыл бұрын
@@supermavro6072 Big truth... Modern Greek is approximately 90 %the..same language..as for the understanding...i personally comprehended 100%percent of the phrases..and I've been tought Ancient Greek fro two years at high school at an introductory level....
@supermavro60722 жыл бұрын
@@PANAGIOTIS_KORKODELAKIS piIe of bs, keep deceiving yourseIf
@nitrianskehosamospravnehok43972 жыл бұрын
@@supermavro6072 You’re not Greek. So stfu
@SeraphimVolker Жыл бұрын
@@PANAGIOTIS_KORKODELAKIS I'm a westerner learning Greek; I have two textbook's one on ancient and one on modern Greek. Do you think I'd benefit from learning ancient and then moving onto modern? Is it intelligent of me to learn ancient and then modern?
@asurdevX Жыл бұрын
L❤VE TO 🇬🇷 Greece from Armenia 🇦🇲
@CafeX4732 жыл бұрын
*Ancient Greek* I can speak it and it didn't die. I can also *Koine Greek!* Σου εύχομαι όμορφη *Κυριακή.*
@SpartanLeonidas18212 жыл бұрын
FACTS !!! 💯
@CafeX4732 жыл бұрын
@@SpartanLeonidas1821 ماذا تعني؟
@SpartanLeonidas18212 жыл бұрын
@@CafeX473 What is that scribble?
@supermavro60722 жыл бұрын
Stop Iying !!!
@supermavro60722 жыл бұрын
@@SpartanLeonidas1821 He is Arap Greek
@jeffersonvieira767811 ай бұрын
please do this type of videowith dialects of the portuguese language or portuguese creole languages!! I love your chanel!!!!
@Kurdedunaysiri2 жыл бұрын
Can you make one for Pontic too
@anasetrakian33762 жыл бұрын
Are there still Pontic Greek speakers living inside Turkey? I hope so 🙏
@Kurdedunaysiri2 жыл бұрын
@@anasetrakian3376 5000
@anasetrakian33762 жыл бұрын
@@Kurdedunaysiri Interesting! Thank you
@Kurdedunaysiri2 жыл бұрын
@@anasetrakian3376 it is dying. One of my friends’ mother tongue is Pontic. His wife’s as well but his wife did not want to speak in the language with their son.
@zubairmohammadyusuf9422 жыл бұрын
@@Kurdedunaysiri are they Muslim?
@Jurek0096 ай бұрын
Great vid! I'd be curious also to see a video where she pronounces the Greek like it would have been pronounced in the period from which the texts were taken. :D
@E45F6786 ай бұрын
There are quite a number of those videos available on KZbin already. Podium Arts, for one. I personally prefer Modern Greek pronunciation, as it sounds authentic rather than artificial.
@costis20242 жыл бұрын
Of course modern Greeks can understand ancient Greek. Who thought otherwise?
@exampleemail8485 ай бұрын
It's not obvious. Italian speakers cannot understand Latin without learning it. Arabic Speakers cannot understand ancient Arabic without learning its language. English speakers cannot understand Ancient English (btw. German/Dutch/Frisian Speakers will understand more 😅). And the list is long ...
@steliopapakonstantinou674 Жыл бұрын
Hello. As a Greek I should say that for us, modern Greeks, it's much more "easier" to comprehend the Hellenistic Koiné than Attic dialect of the Classical Times, which is tought to the universities as Ancient Greek. Although it's not academically and linguistically correct to say so because automatically the rest of the ancient Greek dialects are excluded! We can always identify and recognize ancient Greek words in inscriptions and even comprehend most of the text. Well, not 100%, but, at least, a great deal of them!
@southepirote767610 ай бұрын
Greeks are orthodox Albanians
@E45F67810 ай бұрын
@@southepirote7676 Genius reply 👏
@gardengeek3041 Жыл бұрын
If no one has said so already, an English language version of the first phrase: 'HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF'
@anitahlavekova85242 жыл бұрын
Well that was so cool !
@Cosmopavone Жыл бұрын
I'm italian and i only know ancient greek cause we study it at school for 5 years with latin.
@Treinbouwer Жыл бұрын
What would have been the effect of reconstructed pronunciation? Would they still have been able to get as much?
@E45F67810 ай бұрын
Reconstructed Classical Attic pronunciation sounds considerably different to modern Greek phonology. Unless a Greek is familiar with the "rules" of the reconstruction, he/she will likely struggle to understand hearing a recitation.
@selengeenesay74492 жыл бұрын
Can you do the same with modern chinese and ancient chinese? 👀👀
@kenanozbay3752 жыл бұрын
I could make sense of it being able to see it written. I do not understand much modern Greek. No wonder Greek is one of the two oldest most written languages alongside with Chinese.
@supermavro60722 жыл бұрын
Hahaha......nice joke
@thehauntedstream72062 жыл бұрын
This video is amazing haha
@vincentvanwyk5522 Жыл бұрын
Thanks athena. Modern pronunciation of ancient Greek is much better than reconstructed
@E45F67810 ай бұрын
No competition! 😅
@mydogsbutler5 ай бұрын
Question is a bit vague since ancient Greek evolved and there were many dialects. A secondary issue is verbally dialects sounded a lot different than written forms.
@giefg5512 жыл бұрын
Είμαστε οι μόνοι σε όλη την Ευρώπη που έχουμε το προνόμιο να λέμε τον ουρανό ''ουρανό'' και τη θάλασσα ''θάλασσα'', όπως την έλεγαν ο Όμηρος και ο Πλάτωνας πριν 2.500 χρόνια. Οδυσσέας Ελύτης. We are the only people in Europe that we have the privilege of calling the sky as sky and the sea as sea in the same way as Homer or Plato 2500 years ago. Ulysses Elytis, Cretan, Nobel Price 1979
@alexman86202 жыл бұрын
Can you do Amharic vs Tigrigna? I know it is almost the same for this kind of comparison but it is one of way to make peace between them after a devastating war. Thank you man 🫡
@StefanosVasileiou2 жыл бұрын
Πόσο ενδιαφέρον, παιδιά!!! Μπράβο σας! :)
@asmashaikh-32012 жыл бұрын
Will you make a video on similarities between kurdish and urdu language? pls most requested...
@SpartanLeonidas18212 жыл бұрын
Nicomachus is the name of Aristotle’s Father AND Son….so you are Both technically correct :) Except, who was it named after? 😇
@theo9952 Жыл бұрын
It always depends on how ancient it is. The most ancient Greek we know of, are the Homeric poems of Iliad and Odyssey . The language in those, although easily recognisable as Greek, is very archaic and very hard to make sense of without very good knowledge of ancient Greek. On the other hand, the Hellenistic period Greek (after the death of Alexander the Great) is much easier to understand. And even easier than that, is the original language of the New Testament, in fact so easy, that it hardly needs to be translated into contemporary Greek.
@ibn_klingschor2 жыл бұрын
"The title is often assumed to refer to his son Nicomachus, to whom the work was dedicated or who may have edited it (although his young age makes this less likely). Alternatively, the work may have been dedicated to his father, who was also called Nicomachus." lol
@theapgallery59352 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video with Pali Language (Sacred Language of Theravada Buddhism)
@jackdavids27232 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who thought that the american guy and the greek guy looked like they could have been twins?
@sosrukocircassia52912 жыл бұрын
Bahadır can you make a video of Eastern Circassian (Kabardian) and Western Circassian (Shapsig) dialects?
@MrAllmightyCornholioz2 жыл бұрын
ZEUS BLESS THE SPEAKER! Finally, I can hear the language of Age of Mythology! Prostagma
@@MrAllmightyCornholioz χαχαχ το αγαπημένο μου παιχνίδι ήταν 😂
@Marble8King Жыл бұрын
@@heroduelist9242 Βούλομαι
@Marble8King Жыл бұрын
@@MrAllmightyCornholioz Καλώς
@NIKOS_GEROSIDERIS2 жыл бұрын
Its not actually difficult to understand ancient texts if you practise enought.
@sosrukocircassia52912 жыл бұрын
Can you compare Circassia Circassian and Turkey Circassian?
@TFlexxx2 жыл бұрын
You interpret ancient Greek into modern Greek though the use of English. Your language skills are very impressive. (Aside: A Greek man once compared ancient Greek to modern Greek to me as being like Latin is to Italian....two different languages. Is that a good analogy?)
@SpartanLeonidas18212 жыл бұрын
I know its hard for many to believe, but the Greek Language is one and the same, it has just evolved organically due to its longevity. Koine Greek is 2,300 years old (for example) and is still easily understood by any modern day fluent Greek Speaker. 🤷🏻♂️
@apmoy702 жыл бұрын
@@SpartanLeonidas1821 Νο it's not, try read Thucidides without any previously exposure to the language, and see what you'll grasp. Stop being so cocky. The language has obviously evolved, the syntax has changed (alot), the meaning of many of the inherited words has shifted, though Greek in general is more conservative than let's say English
@learnbiblicalgreek3162 жыл бұрын
@@apmoy70 The Greek New Testament was written about 2000 years ago. A Greek of today, who has not studied Koine / Hellenistic Greek will have no trouble understand certain parts but will struggle with other parts. The NT was written by a number of different authors each with his own style. Luke writes in a literary and eloquent style. The introductions to his Gospel and Acts are almost classical in style. John and Mark write using a restricted vocabulary and short simple sentences with lots of “καί”s / “and”s. Another NT author, the Apostle Paul, writes using long complicated sentences especially in Ephesians. Compare these two texts: John 14: 6 λέγει αὐτῷ ὁ Ἰησοῦς· ἐγώ εἰμι ἡ ὁδὸς καὶ ἡ ἀλήθεια καὶ ἡ ζωή· οὐδεὶς ἔρχεται πρὸς τὸν πατέρα εἰ μὴ δι' ἐμοῦ. Hebrews 9: 28 οὕτω καὶ ὁ Χριστός, ἅπαξ προσενεχθεὶς εἰς τὸ πολλῶν ἀνενεγκεῖν ἁμαρτίας, ἐκ δευτέρου χωρὶς ἁμαρτίας ὀφθήσεται τοῖς αὐτὸν ἀπεκδεχομένοις εἰς σωτηρίαν. The first is easy to understand whereas the second is much more difficult. Both texts were written about the same time: the Gospel of John around 90 A.D. and the Epistle to the Hebrews about 68 A.D. The Book of Tobit was written in the 3rd or early 2nd century B.C. It is a deuterocanonical book found in the Greek Old Testament (Septuagint). Its style is rather colloquial. Tobit 7: 1 (Sinaiticus) … καὶ εὗρον αὐτὸν καθήμενον παρὰ τὴν θύραν τῆς αὐλῆς, καὶ ἐχαιρέτισαν αὐτὸν πρῶτοι, καὶ εἶπεν αὐτοῖς, «Xαίρετε πολλά ἀδελφοί καὶ καλῶς ἤλθατε ὑγιαίνοντες». Καὶ ἤγαγεν αὐτοὺς εἰς τὸν οἶκον αὐτοῦ. It is very easy to understand. So it all depends on the text and style.
@Nikosk002 жыл бұрын
@@apmoy70 i have read thoukidedes. if a page in modern greek takes me 2 minutes to read and understand, for the ancient verion i need about 6-8 minutes to completly understand it. with a little practise it shall be easy
@montgomerygarmadon46882 жыл бұрын
it is pretty good honestly because even if it has been devolved it is still the same language, something we could be used to speak if taught from a young age, something we can identify once we see it even without any previous interactions. even if we dont get the meaning of a sentence we can still identify small parts of it (words/word combinations)
@aladindelic2 жыл бұрын
Can word "zin" from Plato's Critias mean "beautiful"? Nice video.
@theodorospadelidis65372 жыл бұрын
Bahador Alast put a cypriot dialect speaker and pontic speaker and a tsakonian speaker to read ancient greek They are more intelligent to it
@No-Channel196 ай бұрын
I’m surprised how much language changes, yet still be the same language.