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[@carrieeslinger9193]

I am so relieved there are other mothers out there that love their children more than they love their religion. God loves everyone for who they are! I am still a member on paper, but at the age of 51 I am finally seeing the whole truth. My testimony now is that my love for my children, grandkids and friends doesn't end or begin with how they believe or not believe in God.

[@marlenemeyer9841]

I couldn’t have said it better! Amen!

[@anjelikag]

Seeing comments like this give me hope for the kids who have lost their parents because the parents chose the church over them.

[@swim2kill]

Dude this comment really hits home for me in a big way. It's so true. Thanks for saying that

[@ethanhacker2985]

​; 😮😮

[@laurenmay2098]

By the way, Jesus said, love your enemies, pray for them. I do not recognize the Jesus from some churches. Now, I know what the Bible says about gay, about adultery, about liars, murderers and so forth. I don’t know why at that time they put gay in the same sentence. I do believe the Bible, so I believe Jesus is the ultimate law. He said love God with all your heart, and love your neighbors as yourself. And of course, in other place he said to us to pray and love our enemies. Who will enter heaven is up to God, and if I am not care enough, I won’t be there either.

[@thehammer3193]

"Don't put your religion first, but put your family first" Could not have said it better myself. That is exactly what I did.

[@marlenedaltonadams3278]

Boy, I wish I had known to do that. I believed what I was told at church, that church was true my husband was not true. Turns out it was the other way around but I was so very marinated in “The Church” even before I was conceived, through the marinating of my mom and of my dad in “The Church,”that it took many decades for me to allow myself to-to give anything any credence other than “The Church” which had drilled it into my head that church teachings trumped anything and everything else. Me and my [ex]-husband’s three children so unfairly suffered indescribably from this influence of “The Church” busting up our family. So did my [ex]-husband, and so do I. I am very thankful that I am at the place I am now. And I am much happier than I have been in many decades, since we were married in the years before I chose “The church,” believing that there was no option but the church and the highest authority was the church. I missed growing and then growing old with my dear husband and our precious kids. But I am thankful to be free now.

[@jeninejaradat2301]

To my mind (I am a Muslim), my faith is mine alone. It's not an excuse to treat people badly or cut my loved ones out of my life. If my family and religion disagree, to each their own. I can't imagine the pain of having to choose. But she's right, family must come first. She's remarkable because she wasn't only advocating for her son, but his whole LGBTQ+ community.

[@SpiritGuide11111]

She need not to worry about any movement in the world because there is light and darkness in everything but she needs to always choose love over politics or anything else and clearly her soul told her this

[@pacpride11]

If God is put first, everything else will fall into place: Probably not in this lifetime but in the one to come. I love David and Lupe and their family. I am so sorry for the pain they have suffered; yet, I know our Savior suffered more so that we can all live with Him one day.

[@thehammer3193]

How many millions of lives have been needlessly wasted and made unnecessarily harder because of this doctrine. We only get one life here on earth and I don't believe a loving God would want any of his children to spend it in constant self flagellation. @@pacpride11

[@whenimonmymoon6822]

That line about not seeing queer people at church and realizing she's never seen them there, and that meant Jesus wasn't there literally made me burst into tears. My queer heart aches for my parents to have that awakening.

[@teemarie5478]

🥰

[@TracyA1358]

You Are Not Alone! 🥹❤️🤗 I Really Hope That Changes And That You Are Okay. Sending Big Hugs…

[@mickellbrown3]

When I go to church, I don’t often see atheist or Buddhist, Jews or Muslims and so forth. There are many groups of people that choose not to go to our church. The logic would go like this, “Because every single group imaginable isn’t represented here, then Jesus isn’t here too.” We can’t expect to see everyone represented at church nor can we expect everyone to believe in the church, that’s an unrealistic expectation to put on God and the church and people have their agency, but that doesn’t mean God isn’t there, I think a more accurate conclusion would be that they simply believe and choose to live differently. A Buddhist isn’t going to come to our church to worship Buddha. But I don’t think God only dwells in specific places either and I also don’t think that’s what church is for. We teach that God is with everyone and is everywhere, the atonement was done for every soul. However, with that being said and using that same previous thought process. Queer people may not be at church, but I am at church and I’m also an individual and a child of God. Am I not enough for God to show up for me? My family is not traditional or perfect and church can be hard sometimes, but when I’m sitting at church, I know God is sitting with me and my family. He’s sitting with everyone, even the ones not there. Church is how I show I’m sitting with him to. An additional note, I have seen queer people at church. I’ve seen all walks of life come to church and be converted to it. If you live on planet earth, you’ll find diversity everywhere.

[@gseegrist6679]

@@mickellbrown3Amen!!! Well said, I agree!!! I too have friends who are part of the LGBTQ community that attend church and are part of their ward. It’s a pretty bold statement to assume God is not going to show up… “where two or three are gathered in my name…” comes to mind. I’ve seen so many people, many close friends and family - and even John Dehlin, the host and founder of this podcast - who have found that something “wasn’t fair, wasn’t perfect, wasn’t aligned with their personal theological views, were offended or too proud to admit they might be wrong, and so they “leave the church” but never seem to leave it alone. I testify the Lord Jesus Christ has restored his church (with imperfect humans that truly NEED their Savior) and that it is led by a living prophet. I pray we can find, re-find and follow the Light of Truth and humbly follow… His hand is outreached still.

[@makaylacraig6740]

I took singing lessons from her when i was 12. It was one of the hardest times in my life and she always made me feel so special and welcome. She is so unbelievably kind and has so much love in her heart

[@ELoouise323]

I love the idea of Gerardo and Lupe recording Lupe’s story together in Spanish as well!

[@tomk5619]

Powerful suggestion. Do it Gerado!

[@laurenmay2098]

I love it, also, I hope they start it a version in Portuguese, since the church there is very strong.

[@DeathValleyDazed]

Yes, Mormon Stories Podcast going Spanish is historic. Gerardo may end up being the best thing that ever happened to Mormon Stories Podcast. Much respect for these ExMormon pioneers.👏

[@marthaaliceallen8711]

Si. Es muy importante. Mas! Mad!

[@kimberalton9938]

She didn't need to go further than Joseph Smith. In my youth I was told that the Book of Mormon was the Keystone of our religion. If it's not true, then the Church can't be true. If Joseph Smith wasn't a Prophet, then the Book of Mormn isn't true.....Church crumbles. I love her humility!! She just believed and simply!! So she got out simply! I love her! You go Mama, love your children!!! They need you. I'm so proud

[@a.walters123]

The real God would never want you to forsake your own children for a church. A parents love is the most important thing on this earth ❤

[@1jyl22]

❤

[@marlenemeyer9841]

Lupe - that haircut looks amazing on you!!! David has been such a great example to the world and we are so honored to get to hear your story! Thank you!

[@anabelenm1997]

It feels so special that Mormon Stories was open to doing the whole episode in Spanish. I teared up with joy 🥲🥲🥲 You're amazing, Lupe! ❤

[@Mrs.Robinsons]

Its sad that spanish is so looked down on due to all the illegals storming our borders. I can think of any other language to learn but not that and this is USA ! Those wanting another language may pay for it

[@candacehoban4945]

Thanks for sharing your story, Lupe. I had been staying in the Mormon church for a few years because I thought it worked for me. After David came out, I realized that I didn't want my kids to feel unsafe being themselves. I have 5 kids from 3-12 and I didn't want the church to hurt them. I can't be certain it will work for them. Since I left, I've realized all the ways the church was also doing me a disservice and that it had been hurting me all along.

[@jbart5260]

I am not a Mormon. I think this Woman is incredible. Her story and path is wonderful to hear. I hope her path continues to be "10 times happier" Thank you for having her on.

[@tomk5619]

She appears to be a very intelligent, genuine, and expressive person. If she says she is happier I believe her. You can see it in her face and hear it in her voice.

[@Sansonia-i2l]

I met David once while working at the California State Capitol. I was sitting down trying to play my guitar, and he walked over to me and asked me if I played. I told him that I try. We both smiled, and then said our goodbyes. He was a delight to have met & God's thoughts are not like mans. I am also a Mother, and my baby is my baby, nothing more, nothing less. Way to go Momma!!!

[@NeonPinxSam]

I love this channel. Just found it. I grew up apostolic (Pentecostal). Couldn’t cut my hair, wear pants, etc. taught to hate the other. deconstructed and never been happier…

[@patricianoel7782]

I feel like recommending the book”Faith After Doubt” by Brian McLaren. Such a helpful book for me as I deconstructed and traveled my faith journey. Enjoy ❤

[@ddl8664]

If you were apostolic and brought up in the church, you were taught the right doctrine. Go with that and seek God, not the church people in the steeple. Sometimes God is a journey that we need to walk alone with Him to find the real truth . This is coming from an apostolic who loves the fact that she was able to discover the truth of God's word without getting caught up in religion. God is truth God is good and God is love. Don't walk away from God just from the crookedness of man made beliefs and where harsh criticism is displayed. Don't get confused because God is not the author of confusion. Walk with Him and don't give up.😢

[@katoe908]

You can tell Lupe just has a heart of gold. She brought me to tears several times in this interview. David is so lucky to have such a wonderful mom 💜

[@JadeRadcliff1992]

This is one of the most beautiful episodes you've done. I loved Lupe. People project onto others their own true character and nature. She projected her beautiful and trustworthy nature onto the church. Seeing how she trusted the church to take care of this, that she had every ounce of faith in the churches goodness, and then was profoundly let down, was so refreshing and touching. She trusted that the church would say, "now that you've brought this to our attention, of course we care, we are going to fix this." Doing the show again in Spanish made me cry bc I know what it's like to always be left out so that was awesome. Second, please don't ever change the format of your podcast-- the videography of how you do it, this is the only podcast I'm physically able to watch. Many people have brain injuries and brain conditions that affect screens and the way you do it currently I can actually watch it. So a huge thanks to doing your show in a way that's inclusive to me. THANK YOU.

[@gingerdavenport5076]

She is amazing! One of the best ones yet

[@jodiosborne5056]

Yes to this comment!! I, too, am unable to watch some videos bc of sensory and flashing light reasons. I have brain inflammation and Mormon Stories is not only my favorite podcast but so beautifully produced 🙌❤️💕

[@TracyA1358]

Me Too. Migraines. But I Can Listen And It’s Easy On My Sore Eyes And Ears. Eyes Definitely Are Worse. Great Point.

[@SpiritGuide11111]

Her story hit the core of my soul and knowing what is truth in my spirit and what secular doctrine means. I have yet to figure out how to mesh what I believe and still be apart of the tribe. I don’t regret any of my affiliation with the church as it made me who I am today. Yet I have tried to get myself to be fully involved again and I can’t do it. Attending other faiths seems equally as wrong. I live every single day in my home and life as if I’m still active but I have not achieved that space where I can keep my mouth shut about particular issues that I 100% disagree with and it is hard because the church I grew up with has been so supportive of my growth to this point I can’t deny the truths that are there and yet even watching conference yesterday gave me some insight on some subjects and some things that are regurgitated in every conference. Where are the out spoken leaders like Hugh B Brown? All I can say is I am a better human being for my affiliation with the organization and like government agencies and corporations many aspects have been compromised and destroyed by man. I worked in PR for many many years and my insights with that calling has just become part of this process of learning how the Corp has become like the Catholic Church. Political. The fact is those who stay active especially young families can’t go wrong with having a support system for their children as they grow up and have a safe place to grow their spirits. I don’t believe that the mass exit is the same for everyone or the reasons but I even look back at what happened to Paul H Dunn and this was a perfect example of we love you and now we are done with you. I would never send my kids to BYU again they have lost their primary goal and work on their world view of acceptance. This momma has such a full heart of what love is and what matters most is love. We are all connected and her past education of light and darkness has made her the beautiful woman she is today. She can’t look back with regret and just know it is no longer serving her needs currently. We are all just trying to get through this earth school and find truth and light wherever we can find it. God Bless her for her heartfelt testimony on her life journey and her soft heart. None of us our done with enlightenment until we cross the veil ❤

[@knan75]

I too have had a brain injury & I so agree with you! I like Mormon Discussions, but the music they play at beginning & end throws my brain into a seizure!

[@cannibalculture4499]

To Lupe, I want to let you know that you are an incredible, strong, and beautiful woman. Thank you so much for sharing your story with us. I was so moved by so many parts, but I wanted to take a moment to tell you that I truly believe you WILL see your baby boy again someday. And he will never be forgotten, because through your story, so many of us grieved his loss with you. You're a wonderful mother, and I hope you are blessed with more happiness than any one person can even stand. Sending you so much love!

[@AaronNickolas7]

My mother’s views on religion: “if my child is going to hell for being LGBTQIA, then I am going to be there as well! Because Heaven WILL be Hell without my babies!”

[@teemarie5478]

My thoughts exactly, when I found out my perfect oldest daughter that is such a amazing, sweet kid that came out to me about one year ago. I wish she would have told me from day one but I know she had to do it in her own time. I had never been so grateful for always telling my daughters no matter who the decide to love regardless or race or religion, etc. As long as they are treated great that’s all that matter. Unfortunately my oldest was such a perfectionist, didn’t want to let anyone down that she thought about ending her life. I cried so hard and got her the mental health help and she told me about 4-5 months later she didn’t like boys. I was so relieved that the depression was mainly stemming from the fear of disappointing family or friends because the moment she told me I was beyond accepting as well as our entire family.

[@teemarie5478]

I feel like any mother that chooses religion over her kids have their priorities a little/ lot messed up. IMO

[@AaronNickolas7]

@@teemarie5478 my personal situation: my mother was always in support of me. Never once did that falter. My father was an ass for about 5 years, but eventually came around once he divorced his evil ex-wife. My extended family, with the exception of my maternal grandmother, have all stopped talking to me. None of my cousins talk to me. No one. I haven’t seen or heard from my extended family in over 10 years. My solace is that they will all get theirs when judgment day finally does come and God asks my grandfather (the family patriarch, whom everyone listens to) why he treated me with such disrespect. I don’t know if that will actually happen because I’m not sure I actually believe in “judgment day”, but for now, it brings me peace believing that someone above him will eventually call him out on his crap. Because he certainly doesn’t listen to anyone else.

[@helpmereach100subswith0vids]

I wish my mom were like this, she is the type of “well you brought it upon yourself” kind of person, I’m struggling

[@trevanon7450]

Archuleta's new song will also be for her. 🙂

[@karenmacqueen9460]

I have the utmost respect for Lupe. Her vulnerably, her honesty and her unquestioned love for her children is so clear to see. What a wonderful woman. David😊😊 must be so proud of his mother.

[@queeniebee7736]

Families need to stay together, no church should divide the sacred love of a family. Thank you.

[@shirleychristiansen3885]

Lupe, thank you for sharing your story what shows what LOVE is all about. I was a Jehovah Witness for over 20 years and when preparing for a Bible study that I was having and found a lie that has been taught changing historical dates to fit their previous prophecy and that then led me to research other questions I put under the rug. I felt has I had been betrayed by the JW organization and they too knew the lies but were not willing to be truthful. Love and Truth is so important. I had JW dear friend that loves me but she shuns me because I no longer attend and she too follows man’s JW doctrine and shuns her own daughters that left the religion which is so sad that so many do this. Please continue to spread the Love of your story because living in truth is so much better and I feel so much more happier and actually closer to God but chose to not be in organized religion as God is my personal strength and the wonders of our earth is my church. Very best to you and your family.

[@dehende07]

Oh my gosh I've been wanting this video so badly John, I can't believe you kept this a secret.... Now please get David on the show

[@philnorris1786]

Yes!! That would be AWESOME. I’ve wanted to see David on Mormon Stories for a long time and include Kyle Ashworth as well!! ❤❤

[@mackenzievictoria]

I am not Mormon, I grew up Baptist, but I am touched by this story. I deconstructed my faith because of the way the LGBTQ+ community is treated within the church. I appreciate someone putting their family’s well-being (and frankly safety) in front of religion. Thank you for sharing!

[@bonniemeyer1301]

Lupe is a beautiful, articulate woman. I am a nevermo but as a mother, I can feel her pain. She is a lovely human being.

[@-MaryPoppins-]

I can see where David got his living, sweet, gentle nature. What a stunning human being.

[@Enoch840]

Dear Lupe, To hear you say you felt like your "NO ONE" breaks my heart. You are a couragous person who has suffered religous abuse. Your feelings and realizing you were believing a lie(s) are valid and painful! I support you. You are not alone. Welcome to your new Family. We love you Lupe.

[@noemiserrano9383]

En ningún momento dijo que sufría de abuso por parte de la religión,dijo que era demandante en el sentido que la iglesia ase actividades que se le dedica tiempo. Y al ella escuchar de historia dela iglesia se desepciono y alejo ,pero no menciono que fuese una religión mala ,escuché todo lo contrario que enseñan cosas buenas

[@jacquelinet.villoso-vento105]

While same-sex attraction is not a sin, it can be a challenge. While one may not have chosen to have these feelings, he or she can commit to keep God’s commandments. The parent of a child who experiences same-sex attraction or identifies as gay should choose to love and embrace that child. As a community of Church members, Latter-day Saints should create a welcoming environment. Those who experience same-sex attraction or identify as gay can fully participate in the Church. As a Church policy says, “If members feel same-sex attraction and are striving to live the law of chastity, leaders support and encourage them in their resolve. These members may receive Church callings, hold temple recommends, and receive temple ordinances if they are worthy. Male Church members may receive and exercise the priesthood. The circumstances of some faithful members do not allow them to receive the blessings of eternal marriage and parenthood in this life. They will receive all promised blessings in the eternities, provided they keep the covenants they have made with God (see Mosiah 2:41).”

[@amandacollins518]

As a mother I really appreciate your vulnerability and sharing your experience and love. ❤

[@sunshinegal4294]

I’m still listening to Lupe’s story. She has a beautiful voice. We know where David got his gift from. But I find it strange that people in her ward were telling her that her stillborn child never existed even when she said she felt him move within her womb because that isn’t an LDS belief. They believe that spirit does exist and is in heaven. I’ve even heard NDE stories where a boy died and when in heaven he met his sister who his mom had miscarried and he never knew about. She told him to tell his parents they needed to give her a name. So YES! Your child’s spirit does exist and you will reunite with him once again.

[@laurenmay2098]

Not even from catholic background, they believe the baby go back to God. So, maybe their beliefs comes from the natives hondurenhos. In my country, the native Indian beliefs are completely different from the churches in general. Twins are no good, one must to die, cripple kids are abandoned in the forest to die. They use healers to care for the sick. So I can see them believing babies has no soul, therefore no existence. So sad.

[@shaffergirl1732]

I heard her sing with David last Christmas. She has a lovely singing voice 😀

[@user-bw3fl7fj9w]

I was thinking the same thing!! I used David's rendition in front of the Mormon Tabernacle Choir... Be still my Soul...the whole time it stormed...it helped me so much, as it was a horrible storm!!

[@techwithbec]

What a lovely person with a big heart. It makes me happy that she chose her family over the LDS church. Such a hopeful message 💖

[@j2pac88]

Our "obedience" is to God, and God alone, not an organized group of "men." The death that broke our chains, wasn't temporary. It didn't happen to free us from other humans...it happened to free us from ourselves. Organized religion isn't the message of God, it is a man made institution. Jesus cast the thieves from the temple. Money isn't the only thing that can be stolen. Continue to praise his name, knowing that your relationship with God transcends the ideas, and interpretations of man. 🫶

[@CHiCguitar]

John this has been such a week for Mormon Stories! To have Gerardo's help translating with one and all of the incredible guests you've had, this channel is gonna skyrocket. I'm always proud of y'all and I'm happy to see things going this way for you.

[@SpiritGuide11111]

My husband couldn’t even finish this broadcast with me he found it so personal and hit a part of his heart that stirred up pain. A man who served in SA who to this day has spoke to the truth to every Spanish speaking person who crosses his path. He has often said that his presence in the late 70’s to 80’s changed lives and saw miracles happen. The first time questioning the larger picture was another 20 years later when man over stepped into our personal lives and again later. These are all very complex issues but they all have purpose for our progress in life

[@Poeticsam]

Lupe... you are beautiful inside and out. You told your story beautifully. You are an inspiration. I just wanted to give you a hug while watching this. I hope your relationships with ALL of your family are awesome. Your family must be proud to have you in their lives. Prayers for continued blessings for you and your entire family.

[@Liz-hr6hf]

Lupe is an amazing, brave, and courageous woman! I’m so grateful that she shared her story. Thank you John and Gerardo for a great interview.

[@aleciaanderson7285]

Lupe thank you so much for your story! I have recently left the church and your story is exactly what I needed to hear to start healing. You are an amazing person! You're comment "When you leave the Church, you are not losinf the spirit, you are feeling pain." is exactly what I needed to hear. Thank you so much for speaking up.

[@dishy1939]

God is in each & every one of us. He/she is love. You don't need a Church or a temple Just walk in nature & love one another. That is praising God. Thank you Lupa for sharing your journey with us.

[@djdingwall1]

Lupe, my dear gal, your Mormon Story was one that I hung on every word. I too spent 42 plus years in the church and am coming up to my 2 year anniversary date on September 25th, 2023 from when my membership record was removed. Thank you so much for sharing all that you did. It helps me with my journey. Sending you and your family all the love! Hugs, Donna 🥰

[@agarber1932]

Your love for David is so beautiful. Thank you for your gift of love, and may the Lord bless you.

[@whiteeaglestudios]

Dear Lupe... having listened to you and watched you, I have no doubt that God is within you. You do not need a religion or a church. You are a Light of God!

[@rosemarywilliams9667]

No religion is more important than your child's happiness. Forget the church only think of your kids unconditional love always.

[@krislarabee7902]

What a beautiful and gracious lady!! Thank you for sharing her wonderful spirit with us!

[@chrispierce9699]

The good things about being a member are real. Being committed as a family to do good is real. There is somthing palpable and spiritually powerful about singing together in a family and congregation. We sometimes tend to discount the powerful experiences we had as believing members. We should celebrate and be grateful for those experiences and although their are falsehoods, there are many truths as well. I was really angry for a long time after leaving the church and felt very betrayed and lost. I finally realized that I didn't have to throw it all away and that I was truly grateful for all the good things I learned and experienced.

[@KarenSuzMorris]

Hey Lupe! I loved, LOVED this podcast! I was married in the Los Angeles Temple, and raised five children in the LDS Church. I have always believe in God, even before I was a Mormon. When we left, we started visiting other Christian churches. I believe in Heavenly Father, and in His son Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Spirit. We enjoy the Methodist and Baptist Churches. We took a year off before seeking another church. God is still real! However, the LDS church is full of lies and far too judgmental! But please remember: "God is good all the time, and all the time, God is good." 😄

[@phyllisw.]

So much courage! Such a wonderful family that this woman is the center of ! I, as an RLDS, left the church at age 27 when I read the literature ! I could return to Com of Christ today as they have lived & promoted integrity ! At age 80 now, I am complete, confident and happy outside the church !

[@dianejohnson2664]

I relate to this story so much. As the mother of a member of the queer community, there is a lot of regrets and sadness that I deal with for what I put my son through as an active member. Stepping away was one the most liberating and freeing moments of my life. I applaud her courage and her tenacity in speaking her truth and loving her children unconditionally!!!

[@lisagrace6471]

At the beginning of her background story- WOW! His mom is a treasure.

[@visitingthepast]

I appreciate that she wants to do the episode in Spanish. I’ve been wanting to share a lot of these with Spanish speakers and believe it or not, a lot of them are not aware of the church’s history and this would help out a lot. Thanks for the work you all do.

[@queeniebee7736]

What a beautiful soul…what a beautiful mothers love. Peace.

[@umeshvaghjiani822]

Beautiful human being and wonderful mother!

[@TheYellowRoseOfTexas]

I loved and resonated with what Lupe said towards the end of her interview, “Nothing more beautiful than to be yourself and to be accepted for who you are”. 🙌 ABSOLUTELY!

[@kathrynbeetham5308]

As a life long pagan (I'd describe it as Jungian spirituality) I have zero skin in the Mormon game, but I'd just like to say thank you for these videos and conversations, I've found them so informative and fascinating on a human level.

[@amydelp5552]

I can not wait to see the spanish version!!! How awesome! Thank YOU mormon stories

[@caroltravis5854]

Another wonderful testimony!! Thank you for sharing! So many great points were made! I had never even considered a lot of the information that came forward during this interview.

[@corinnefowler4095]

She is so beautiful!! She is full of love!! Love her!!

[@user-lp2un7rc9x]

Great story! We gay ex-mormons all have unique and deeply personal experiences like this one. Great to hear from Lupé.

[@shelleymays8529]

I think this was one of my favorites. Lupe is a joy in our world. She's right, its the day you realize you were lied to. I was so angry, I threw the book of Mormon across the room, and then it went into the garbage. I don't know what the answers are either, but I'm comfortable right now in not knowing. We can believe whatever we want that brings us comfort, but it doesn't necessarily mean we are right. And that's okay too. Blessings on you Lupe and your beautiful family.💜💚💙

[@Moonfasination]

Oh her voice is so beautiful!!! What a great interview.

[@yamimartina]

Estimada Señora Lupe: Deseo sepa que el amor que tiene en su corazón se transmite de una forma inexplicable a través de la pantalla. Le agradezco por compartir con honestidad su historia. Sin duda, es en su humildad y vulnerabilidad donde residen su fortalezas como ser humano. Le envío un respetuoso abrazo y le deseo lo mejor en su nuevo camino.

[@TabeaMartin]

🇩🇪 The greatest respect from me! I am a german Mormon mother of a teenage boy who is taking a different path. Thanks for sharing your experience. This ist so helpful and hopeful.

[@charlesmendeley9823]

Toll, schöne Grüße!

[@julieoetting2896]

The base and authentic experiences and emotions this woman was able to convey is so incredibly touching.

[@varsityfan2000]

Lupe, thank you for sharing your faith story, it was riveting to hear and told in such a heartfelt way. I came to this video as a fan of your son David, and I gotta say that after hearing you speak for two hours that I am now a fan of yours as well! What courage both of you have to speak your truth in such a public way. Respect. 👍❤️

[@sharon6447]

Lupe, you, David, and all your children are loved by our creator. You are enough just the way you are. You can be spiritual without being part of a religion and all the dogma attached to it. Blessings to you all.

[@maureenkilbane9948]

I could listen to her talk forever. Her speaking voice is amazing her singing voice beautiful

[@brihaver1951]

Absolutely riveting! What a strong, beautiful and very brave woman. I have always loved and admired David. What an inspiration to meet his mother. Wow! Just WOW!

[@pastelpastelpastel]

It took me weeks to find 3 hours to listen but I’m so glad I did. When Lupe said of love for family first “I’m embracing that and I’m not letting go”, my heart melted. “Obedience without questioning” can be so dangerous. I know that Lupe and David have a long way to go in their faith journey but I strongly believe they’ve taken the right first step. Lupe, you are incredibly brave - thank you so much for speaking openly with us. And your English was absolutely perfect and you were so articulate! Brava!

[@lq6424]

I'm so happy she made it out. ❤️ Mormonism has hurt and continues to hurt, way too many humans. Muchas gracias por estar dispuestos a hablar en español. Me gustaria que muchos mas latinos sepan qué es la iglesia... Muchas saludos.

[@joyceadair3003]

I am not a Mormon. I am a Christian. If you truly knew what the Mormon religion is teaching, you would know that it’s not biblical. I try to be respectful and do follow some sites but I have real concerns.

[@lq6424]

​@@joyceadair3003Mormons are unable to see what we see from the outside looking in. I was a Mormon for 34 years, and leaving the church has opened my eyes to so many things. The church (cult) is truly diabolical.

[@jessicaalvarado2902]

🎉🎉YES! FINALLY!! So much of the Mormon community are Spanish speaking latinos...it's about time you read my mind to do Mormon Stories En Español!❤ So happy for this. I'm rooting for you Gerardo. My Mormon story is greatly influenced by my latino culture.

[@philnorris1786]

This was AWESOME. Thank you SO MUCH John Dehlin, Gerardo Sumano, and most of all, Lupe Bartholomew! I LOVE her interview. David is so fortunate to have such a loving mother!! ❤❤

[@chrischipman2486]

I love her. She’s a good mother and David is so blessed to have her in his corner.

[@barbhugheschapman268]

I see where David gets his sweetness and humility from. Lupe, you are a sweetheart and I’m so happy you have a beautiful life full of happiness now. All my love to you

[@bekah-boo]

I'm so glad you brought Lupe in. I was so curious about her story. I lost my mother when I was 16, but oftentimes I'm curious what it would be like for a devout mother to watch her child walk away from the faith of their youth. Excited to hear this episode.

[@OG-vj7kp]

Mi gente Latina! What a special guest ❤ so well spoken and genuine!

[@KennyVert]

Thank you for doing this, Mama Lupe!!! We love you!

[@JANUARYINCANADA]

Omg I want to cry so much I feel like I see my mom in her. Her mannerisms, her stories, everything relates to how my mother lived back in her days. I love her so much and I haven't met her yet. David treasure her always she's a great blessing.😘🥲🙏❤

[@GeoKnowLearning]

I think that Moroni Ortiz (former bishop in Mexico) would be a great candidate to start the Mormon Stories Espanol channel! I would listen to that!

[@tylerpond1229]

Excellent story. Thanks for doing it and having the courage to speak up.

[@camottam]

Yeeeesss!!!! I’m a spanish speaker and I always try to undestand the whole chapter. It’s difficult but now we will have a spanish chapter. THANK YOUUUUUY

[@thisisme1999]

That was hard to listen to. This incredibly sweet and loving woman is trying to find her way and help others at the same time, there can be no doubt she is Davids's mother, both of them try to be good and decent people. It reminds us that how much some people are manipulated through their ignorance and trust. The mormon church is not the only one guilty of using people to gain followers but their lies are not buried as deep as others and if there is a spark where someone wants to know more the truth is easier to find. You are a good person Lupe and things will get better for you.

[@ryanosborn7145]

I’m here watching after hearing a snippet of David’s upcoming song, Hell Together!😭 as an Archie, avid voter back in the American Idol days and now exvangelical, so much of yours and David’s story resonates so deeply with my heart. Thank you for sharing your story and being such a shining example of a mother who loves so unconditionally😭❤️

[@Mizzlenum]

Lupe is such a genuine nice lady. I hope a version in Spanish can be made soon. I feel like her in the sense that I believe in a higher power and sometimes it's hard to know exactly how to refer to it in prayer. Than you Mormon Stories Podcast.

[@laurenmay2098]

The version was right after the live in English. That’s my understanding.

[@sfsphil]

"I don't know who God is anymore." Such bare honesty and such truth. I love your honesty, Doña Lupe. That is what LGBTQ+ people who have been raised so religiously go through, too. Y siii abrazos!

[@Mrs.Robinsons]

Its sad that spanish is so looked down on due to all the illegals storming our borders. I can think of any other language to learn but not this one! This is the USA ! Those wanting another language may pay for it

[@JessicaFillmore]

What a tender, heart felt interview. Thank you for sharing your story Lupe. I could feel your love for your son and your family. What a brave and compassionate mother you are.

[@michellecarlson6427]

Lupe is a beautiful woman inside & out. She excudes kindess. Thanks for sharing your story Lupe.

[@MeganSpruce90]

So interested in seeing the point of view from someone brought into the Mormon faith from another country.. im sure there are a lot of people going on missions and changing many people's lives by bringing them in.. also so interesting to hear about a mother choosing her family over the religion. Unfortunately, by watching so many of these episodes, we know not all people do that. They will completely turn their back on their loved ones for fear of upsetting the church. Good for you! I am only 10 minutes in, and i have a feeling im going to cry! Edit * what an amazing woman

[@isabelportilla1520]

I’ve been watching you because of the 8passengers mom. I really can’t take all the heartbreak. This people in your interviews that are so good, such pure hearts. God fearing, kind and being abused by a Church, for what? My heart is breaking. We are witnessing real pain.

[@tamragoodrich6067]

Thank you for your story Lupe. I appreciate you sharing it.

[@Cocoon68]

Right off the get go hearing her sing was amazing! Beautiful voice as well as mother to her son!

[@korribier-lo3nm]

I am so proud of her for loving her son for being his true self

[@erinclarke2715]

I’m so excited for the Spanish episode!! Great idea

[@heatherstewart4084]

This was just beautiful. Thank you Lupe for sharing your story. As a mother of four and former LDS, so much of your story touched my heart. You are beautiful inside and out. Your children are blessed to have you. I also struggle with who God is to me now. I know the Mormons have put him in a box, I don’t believe in that version. I think he/ she is much bigger and more than we can comprehend. For now, I just believe in a creator that I love and honor.

[@sweingold5686]

" God loves his children. God is not here." What a profound moment of understanding she shared.

[@Janiceleatham2112]

Such a lovely dedicated lady. No wonder your son is so special and sings like an angel. He is blessed to have your support. Your story is so inspiring. I have struggled so with lds history. In Utah I feel so alone.

[@Shelsight]

I’m so grateful to Lupe’s honesty and her true belief that her son is who he is, and that is who He made him. David and his mom are living true, honest, lives and they should be proud.

[@musicgirl125]

I loved this interview soooo much. I had a massive crush on David during American Idol and am so happy to hear that he’s able to be himself now. Lupe sounds like an amazing mom and *maybe* she can adopt me?? Really looking forward to watching the interview in Spanish and hope you guys find a way to produce more Spanish-language content soon!!

[@lizmatthei3424]

Lupe, you are a force of nature and you did the best with the tools you were given. Onward in truth!❤️

[@brisawood4330]

👏🏾 omg!! As a latina I would love to hear more episodes in Spanish!!

[@abrahamdelacruz8389]

Lupe, you are so courageous. I love your story. Thank you for sharing! I agree with your point of view!

[@AurorXZ]

Thank you, Lupe. Thank you.

[@iamjustsaying1]

My heart goes out to this dear woman. Much like her, even years after I stopped believing, I would still spend all of General Conference weekend just hoping that THIS TIME one of the leaders will give cover and comfort to those of us on the outside, looking in. They always go in the opposite direction.

[@morteg2k]

Thank you for sharing your story Lupe.....it has been a big help to me, my love to you, your family and to all the families out there who choose to love their children...

[@TEAtimesTHREEE]

Lupe is soooooo sweet she just radiates positivity! It is truly beautiful to see how much she loves her family and it warms my heart so much. Her mindset really shows how loving her own parents must have been as well. What a great example of love for family and how many ppl turn to the church simply for the community and connection it can bring. I'm so inspired by her story ❤

[@sachamo100]

What a profound statement. God is LOVE, but she couldn’t find him there! So true.

[@NolanKingston]

Thank you for your wonderful sharing, Lupe. We have a lot to talk about!

[@susanharrison9147]

What an amazing Mama you are. Are family has been through loving our gay, son, nephew, grandson. What a great man he is.