American Rapper First Time Seeing - bts vs attendance award shows [Reaction]

EP44: Smokey Approved S.Korea- American Rapper First Time Seeing - bts vs attendance award shows [Reaction]
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[@boracitymagazine]

hi! you're on the right track, but please stop writing in the comment section that you're "still learning" but making big as$ statements and assumptions in the actual videos. try to understand why I'm saying the things I'm saying (it helps if you don't stop the video in the middle of my sentences). if you don’t know, ASK, don't assume and run with it. maybe you don't realize this, but your experience in the industry is not the same as bts'. slow down a little and open your mind to others' points of views and experiences. you are doing great btw, no hate. I hope you get to learn a lot more about bts' journey and discography

[@Jurnalist_]

Will do in the future. Thank you for this measured comment as well. As I am still learning my comments may be big or a hot take but I leave space in the comments to be educated since most of my comments are opinions. So when I get to talk to army after the video comes out I learn more and it reshapes my opinions. I will do a better job letting you finish in full so I don’t cut your points off too early. Thank you also for being a good sport about it all. You really do great work and I appreciate all the efforts you put in to your videos. Final note is the redaction just standard or is it to not further promote other fandoms and to mitigate fan wars.

[@boracitymagazine]

@@Jurnalist_ that's great! i don't redact because of the laws in korea. i'm not defaming anyone and commentary and criticism fall under fair use in youtube. i redact because that group and their label always include bts in their mediaplay and i'm not giving them what they want. i know you think we should call them out by name, but we've been doing that for +6 years and they only feed from that, so i don't mention their names because at the end of the day, if you go outside and ask people about them, people don't know who they are, they only know bts. and it's not only them, i also redact every other group who claims to be "the next bts" just like those girlies do. i have a video about it if you want to check it out 😂

[@Jurnalist_]

@@boracitymagazine okay thank you for that answer. I’m learning about these fandoms so I was unaware of how nuanced even a redaction may be. I totally would love to see that video would you mind linking the video to me please. Again great work that you do and Ty for being as kind as you have been to my very straight forward reaction. Big up to you Bora respect. 🤝🏾🫡

[@boracitymagazine]

@@Jurnalist_ totally! this is the video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoaYhGqZab1pb9k i made it to try to explain that although the mediaplay applied to these "next bts" groups may sound like a good idea, they actually always fail and don't help them get a real audience

[@Jurnalist_]

Your premise is one I already agree with. I look forward to checking this out. Ty very much for taking your time to link this to me. I hope you have a good day and great rest of the year. 💜

[@fatia4076]

13:00 fun fact bts never went to an after party in the US they attende the award shows perform get their awards and dip to their hotel room turn on a live and start talking to armys always

[@BAMMIE7613]

just saw a meme few days ago they say nah we hav a date and get into hotel room with ramen nd say HI ARMY. best part of award shows 😍

[@erume5776]

part of it is also language barrier and the reluctance people have approaching them sometimes, i don't think they feel that comfortable at those parties

[@fatia4076]

@@erume5776 they know those people are fake asf they barely have a real friendship in America

[@erume5776]

@@fatia4076 bts' type of parties are like that Jack in th Box listening party, when hobi invited people HE wanted to see and shake hands with

[@jessicapierce3027]

And BTS members will still go hang with other artists in their own free time, like Lizzo, HER, Coldplay, Halsey and Jon Batiste. I like that when it comes to the western music industry they have stuck with people who treat them respectfully, instead of schmoozing.

[@jennd1298]

It’s not that she hates them, it’s just……..*sigh* if you only knew the level of media play that is involved with this group, like actually looking at their stats and achievements…you’d laugh. For a while I side eyed their company only for this, but with time I saw how the group went along with it, they embodied and claimed it, that’s what made me see THEM in a different light. It made me lose respect for them, so even though I had heard like 3 of their songs, I didn’t care to look into them further or give them any of my time. No integrity. I think boracity “mentions” them because they’re constantly trying to make them seem at the same level as BTS when facts prove that to be faaaar from the truth. They’re constantly trying to hand them achievements without putting in the work whereas BTS has had to claw their way up. I don’t believe she hates BP, she hates the tactics used to get this group their fame. Fake it till you make it, essentially.

[@Jakeein]

I agree with you here. If I don't like a group/artist, I don't need to give them hate, I just move along.

[@hanakochan7399]

this has nothing to do with hating blackpink,she probably don’t want childish Blinks and armys to fight in her comments section

[@amberpearce710]

Blinks still will get mad because she showed their pictures. At least she had the balls to do that, in my opinion.

[@cjaeyr]

It's what I noticed with Kpop reactors and even Korean channels. It has something to do with fan wars and also might be just how the Kpop culture works. Just my take because it's not just her who does it.

[@houseofalex]

She predominantly used BP because they are the actual group for the case of VMAs wins, snubs and mediaplays.. How could Bora use other examples? She’s not beefing, she just pulling receipts

[@chloeengel5616]

I love that you appreciate the value of a Kids Choice Award

[@Jurnalist_]

It’s levels above an bbca 🤷🏾‍♂️ but that’s personal.

[@nen3040]

I love it so much I think I'm going to be a patron. Already subscribed here but I think it's time I started giving you cold hard cash in exchange for entertaining me. I like how you think and you've got a nice mellow speaking voice. Been enjoying your short vids wih my morning coffee and your longer ones with my evening joint. You nice, keep going. See you over on patreon

[@imajinallthepurple]

I think the reason she predominantly uses BP as an example is because they are in fact the biggest girl group at the moment and the second biggest K-pop group (I think? 🤔). I honestly don't think she hates them, they're just the closest comparison and at the same time their company is a great example of a pretty crappy industry entity but that's not on the artists themselves which she also pointed out from the start.

[@amberpearce710]

I do agree with this statement.

[@yasminesb7947]

Actually, they were the fourth best selling kpop group in 2022 (thanks to 18 album's versions), and the second most streamed girl group in the US after Twice... And we know that the first 15 days of their recent release, they had a deal with Spotify guaranteeing almost no filtering and all the streams from free accounts were counted as premium.. Even Spotify released an article bragging about that and we know their connections with the head... And like that they bragged as the first to debute at n°1 spotify but if you see the unfiltred streams of the overall kpop acts, they couldn't surpass BTS in numbers, even with the filtered streams they couldn't surpass them in numbers... they got that n°1 because suddenly that week the chart was weak on spotify and all others acts's streams dropped... But as soon as their deal was over, their numbers dropped insanely and those of other acts grew... So I think the mediaplay make it like they are the second biggest group when in fact they are big in some countries especially Thailand and maybe China but not everywhere, they couldn't even fill an arena in their own home country, and in almost all fan-voted awards they are barely at the fifth position, sometimes even the tenth.

[@amiii5292]

@@yasminesb7947 THIS. This is the prime example how Mediaplay works and why she has chosen Blackpink. I agree, I think she doesn‘t hate the group, but she doesn‘t like the tactics of the company and how they are constantly attached to BTS.

[@lealarsen2017]

@@yasminesb7947 did not know that holy crap. that makes this YG media stunt even more humiliating my god.. i think they won because they have a larger fanbase to vote and they just released a new trending song and YG is making sure the group get as much publicity for their tour and future solo promotions. Jiso is about to release solo song after their contract ends. so if they renew it why start with a solo album? does not make sense i think this is just to promote their solo projects and also the new YG group babymonster. if BP chose to stay with YG and as a group than there is no excuse anymore for the way blinks have been protecting them saying that YG is holding them back. if they stay they agree with what YG is doing. and we know YG was behind the backlash bts got from the media in south korea. the other labels also did their parts but not as much as YG did. i heard this from a korean man who worked and had connection in the music market

[@belaytriks]

I agree, people try to compare them and no other group has managed to be this popular. I belive in a few years there will be more relevant groups but at this moment people knows of BP and BTS.

[@erume5776]

33:02 she said exactly that tho. "nothing wrong to be a small or medium artist, what's wrong is trying to convince general public that you are bigger than you are by faking achievements, buying awards...". i think she means she doesn't shame them for music they put out or for who they are as people/artists, but for their approach to these fake awards and records - the shame that you want. because a lot of people who will be there to defend the girls will go "you just hate them, you hate women, if you don't like them just shut up", when boracity's point was exactly not personal, but in the context of the awards so we are on the same page haha her censoring is really funny tho

[@Ana-id6uk]

I'm gonna be shady for a minute, personally, I thought BP lost that group of the year award cause their performance wasn't good. You even had these same media outlets that were posting about their (later to be discovered untrue) win, writing how they had one of the worst performances of the night (it was kinda brutal not gonna lie, esp for BP who gets only media compliments). Bora thinks its the social media engagement that got them to turn, I think its the same people that were going to give them that reward that changed their mind mid-show. (But yes, overall engagement was lower, irl and online. It isn't that BP isn't supported, ARMY support is just wild and leaves an impact - I don't know if they expected it with every kpop group out there.)

[@Jurnalist_]

Death row welcomes you to the dark side. 😈😂😂

[@jennaeveliina313]

@@Jurnalist_ 😂🙏

[@anniedeedrix6732]

boracity is savage AF

[@amberpearce710]

Then again even though is has a few error based on the evidence and the research she did, she spoke facts. At least she had the balls to show their picture; most people wouldn’t even do that.

[@9mmstella]

@@amberpearce710 what was the error? I’m curious

[@amberpearce710]

@@9mmstella I don’t really think she did but based on what he was talking out their are a few small errors…mainly I guess “the reason” for they do some things…idk remember everything he has said in the video….

[@Kookiepookie2025]

Savage but with facts 💯

[@minniekefo1362]

She doesn't hate blackpink

[@flyushkifly]

It's always about the fans and the labels - not the idols, huh. There are honestly very few truly nasty idols who deserve to be called out for hateful or unprofessional behavior.

[@erika-g4mer_yoongi207]

@@flyushkifly She doesn't mention the name so there's no more confusion.

[@rosnanirahman4018]

Yeah... he shouldn't said that about her. She doesn't hate blackpink. It's just fact.

[@QuiteIgnorant]

Funny you should say that: BTS does indeed have several Kids' Choice Awards 😂

[@joonie3lover761]

Up!

[@carolinesch.]

They have 8 right?

[@QuiteIgnorant]

@@carolinesch. According to Wikipedia, and if you include the Kids' Choice Awards from Argentina, Colombia, and Mexico, they have 21. For just the US, they have 6 😊

[@worldsnews170]

BLACKPINk is the big example when it comes to mediaplay

[@ralphy383]

The reason why we redact the names is to avoid fanwars and also not give clout to the group. No free promotion. 😂 Also our beef isn't with the group itself, its with their label and their mediaplay. So it would be unfair to point out the groups name constantly cus they ain't the ones doing all the shady shit.

[@lealarsen2017]

agree, twitter do the same. we make fake names like BP and other words to avoid fans from the other fandoms joining in on the conversation and give cloth. and yes it´s the label not the groups themself. armys have become suspicious of any of the big 3 labels after what they did to BTS. i am also proud of army to actually trending the bad stuff that is going on. it´s the only thing we can do and it´s working. no one want a bad trend on their name. grammy and Spotify has already gotten heat. and many media stations has removed bad articles with bts and apologized so we as a fandom has a voice strong enough to be heard.

[@bbwalk100]

She is not hating on BP, but she is telling the truth based on facts.

[@fatia4076]

This year bts got 5 nominations for the Grammys I hope at least they got one even though they are not active as a group this year

[@cherylloper7320]

IMHO, they were active all the way up to and including the Busan concert in October. That's pretty much out there! Got the Grammys on record for this year!

[@marirezende8478]

They got 3 nominations, they have 5 in total since they started being nominated

[@chere100]

@@marirezende8478 Right, right, it was three. Which is no less impressive. BTS and ARMY supremacy! 💪

[@Paminjapan]

One thing you will learn is BTS only parties with ARMY and close friends and family. No afterparties they go Live with ARMY instead, no clubbing, no scandals, they stay squeaky clean in their reputations. Now as solo artists we may see a difference but as BTS who are IDOLS they don't smooze.

[@boraland969]

WELL BTS PAVED THE WAY TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT💜

[@Jurnalist_]

I’ll take it.

[@jaybangwool7782]

I think why Boracity showed BLACKPINK because they were the exact example of her arguments,

[@_nt.lpn.st_177]

Obviously, and because they were competing in those awards with us, and they took the award's that would deserve to be ours, if we talk about voting there was no way that they won us, so that was something straight against us

[@amberpearce710]

That is true. She showed other artists that have done this or should have won. It just seems like she is “hating” because they were the ones participating in the same categories as BTS. She was also trying to explain why they didn’t really “win”. For example on the Met-averse she even said that, I believe Arian Grande, should have won not them. (At least from what I remember in the video). Yes I do understand these aren’t true categories but still you went through who should have won even it if wasn’t BTS.

[@christyjosephcchristyjosep8806]

@@_nt.lpn.st_177 O GOD WHO ARE YOU GUYS WE ALL HAD A STRONG FAN BASE FOR VOTING BUT WE DONT HAVE THAT MUCH TIME TO DEFEND OURSELF WHAT ABOUT OUR VOTES ARE GETTING ROBBED ALWAYS IN KOREAN SHOWS THAT IS NOT A PROBLEM TO ANYONE

[@9mmstella]

@@christyjosephcchristyjosep8806 what votes were robbed? they gave an explanation on why votes were removed (blinks were cheating and the system detected multiple ips from the same place + VPN) and 81k accounts had to be removed. There were 3 different voting shows that had to remove your fandom’s votes because of it. THREE, not one. You can’t blame korean award shows of robbing awards when the one actually making it difficult are blinks who cheat. Not saying all blinks cheated, but someone got caught doing a massive scheme. You guys are not good voters, and i know that because of your numbers + on a kpop server I was talking with blinks and it turns out most of them don’t vote while most of the armys that were in the server actually voted (plus there were accounts that would do update on the votes). I don’t believe your fandom can win against LYW, arguably has one of the best voting fandoms while being small.

[@-rk4zf]

Korean award show deleted bp votes & some other artists bcuz fans used VPN which is ILLEGAL. I wouldn't call it be being robbed.

[@marigam]

That tactic is called “No free promo” 😂😂 We always do that for charts as well. You don’t show the competition so they don’t get the numbers off of you celebrating a BTS win😂😂

[@eight8592]

There's a big difference between BTS members and BPink, BTS has the best leader in the world who stands up for their rights,correct mistakes He represents everything and he's broad reader of international and local news HE'S aware of any news on All social media platform...if he's not happy with their company he always addresses them to do something Solve it right away ....BTS members are all against MEDIA PLAY....CHART MANIPULATION ETC. BangPD is their father figure ,he's proud of what they're now ....HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY....

[@mamejoe2043]

You said it all

[@ZariDV]

It honestly sends me when ever she redacts Their name but I think it's partially out of self preservation and not wanting the comments section full of fanwars instead of actual discussion about the topic. It's less about hating the group and more that this group in particular is the textbook example of what the videos are about. They are usually the only other kpop/Korean group that BTS goes head-to-head with which is beyond insulting when there are much more talented groups out there. To outright name drop is like announcing that you want a fanwar. That's not what the videos are for. It's not to attack the group out of spite but unfortunately, that group is one of the biggest offenders of many of the topics that are covered where corruption is involved. The very fact that they are BTS's biggest competitor is laughable and insulting. Yes, music is subjective but it ain't THAT subjective. It's not even to insult the group since it's not their fault that their music isn't giving. It's not like they write, produce or compose their stuff so they can't be blamed. So when people say their music is catchy at best, it's not an insult to the group since they have no real control over much. It's more of an indictment on their team being lazy and doing the same tired pop bops with a similar vibe every year. They have potential they just need a new team, better management, and some drive. Any drive. It's honestly the height of musical corruption that they are framed as BTS's only "competition" (from Korea) on the global stage. Korea has so many talented idols that could be real competition. It's a slap to the face that media outlets keep insinuating that they're the ones who might take BTS's spot. It's like if Kendrick Lamar had to put up with the media trying to make it seem like Lil Pump was his biggest competition in the global hip hop market. Like gtfoh and don't play in our face like that.

[@Bluetree0502]

👆This. Thank you.

[@ethanjeon19]

its true💜👍

[@aishwaryaahirrao]

This!

[@rivarosemontefalco5070]

The truth is they aren't a competition. Media playing really working hard. Data show how this group not even in the second place. The 2022 best selling physical album in US for group they even aren't in top 10. Even a 4th gen group outselling them and place in top ten. Streamwise for spotify for 2022 another group was in second place not them. And even in overall stream they are in 2nd place the gap between them vs bts is huge. 31 billion vs 9 billion. Proof album has 9 billion alone. We can blame their company for mediaplaying but I am still distasteful w/ these girls bec they are grown adult w/ brains. It is imposiible that they aren't aware. They always chummy w/ spotify exect. That bastard delete all his IG post and went private when army called his ass when spotify take back Jungkook as the most stream kpop soloist in 2022 and said it was one of the girlies. Reason of girlies fandom. Collaboration do not count. So if that's the case then Jhope should be the most stream kpop soloist, still not this girlie. Spotify again take back the announcement and said it was error on their part and declared Jungkook again as the most stream kpop soloist. While this spotify exec who being chummy chummy w/ girlies still on private and all his ig post deleted. So atp these girlies are part of their company's dirty work. They know and agree on that. I'm all on girl power but not w/ cheaters.

[@ZariDV]

@@rivarosemontefalco5070 You're right. They aren't legitimate competition in the genuine sense of the word. I should have worded that more accurately to say that they have been falsely propped up as BTS's competition in the public sphere. They have been hand-selected each time to be placed in categories for awards and in conversations about kpop dominating the music industry. Meanwhile they've done very little musically to earn those things. It's unfair to the ladies because they don't have any real control over how the powers that be choose to use them. Music isn't even secondary for that group. It seems to be on the backburner altogether. Even when they release music, it sounds recycled and I suspect it's because they use the same guy who gave them their first hits. Except now it sounds dated and hollow. Their company is far too wealthy not to invest more into them musically. If youre not going to give the artists much creative control and leave them to the mercy of the public, at least pay for some variety. Then they starve their fanbase so much that any crumb of music they drop feels like the holy grail to them because they turned BP's music into a scarcity. It's sick to watch them manipulate people but the fans eat it up every time. Their fans don't even seem to actually care to support the group either. If you look at voting engagement, it's abysmal only until BTS is up against them. I've notice that many of their fans arent actually their fans, they're just BTS antis and people who want to humble ARMY. Otherwise they never show up for those ladies. It's all a farce. It's hard to respect that other fandom when the delusions are so real. They will ignore every shred of reality to buy into the company lies. They could mobilize and demand better for the ladies but they would rather take the lies so they can feel better. It's annoying.

[@erume5776]

"use foreign artists as props to increase visibility" is exactly what happened at grammys 2021 with bts. that year they couldn't attend bc of pandemic still so disrespecting them was even easier

[@jessicapierce3027]

It's difficult to bring names of other K-pop artists in, that's when death threats start becoming an issue. Each fandom has their own set of immature and toxic fans, but toxic ARMYs and Blinks tend to be the worst when put head to head. There can be fair and unfair comparisons made between the two groups, so mentioning both in the same conversation can lead to unnecessary drama in the comments section.

[@annanamoose9943]

I think it also has to do with lawsuits from the idol agencies in Korea too. In all her videos she redacts group names when making a critique about a group.

[@TiaIela]

don't worry she doesn't hate blackpink. it's just to avoid unnecessary fan wars.. and to prevent blackpink from getting more hate..💜

[@babbes4210]

She doesn't h4te BP nor is she being petty. ARMY's currency is streams and clicks/attention. Many entities and fanbases have the bad habit of baiting army to increase engagement toward their artist. They create offensive tweets and when army responds their artist name is suddenly trending because there are so many. That's why army has a habit to censor or not mention names of other artists.

[@Boraheartsss]

Just adding to what Boracity has already said about her redactions (I also love that you guys conversed as she was my goto for BTS information when I was learning as well) her videos get a LOT of popularity on YT. She's one of the biggest ARMY analyst youtubers out there. I, personally, disliked the redactions because when I was learning it left me with less information than I liked, but understanding how much clout she has... it's all for BTS and ARMY. She doesn't want to share that clout with these other groups as they are not her focus. Especially when these groups have companies who use shady tactics to give their groups popularity. We may enjoy the groups and their music, but the industries that they come from are just... literal dogwater.

[@Jurnalist_]

Yea I was unaware of the deeper problem they have in the fandom space. Now I get it a little. She was dope very open and calm about my direct positions. Very nice to have spoke to her.

[@museofwind9004]

It's not her fault that blackpink labels are using shady tactics to make them look as big as BTS in US. Girls almost begged their fans to buy their physical albums in american stores since their streams on Spotty and ytube ( and physical sales ) weren't that much to debut at #1 on bb 200 chart. They already embarrased themselves with their previous charting when they ended at #2 on the same chart after all of mediaplay their labels put out

[@n9_sn92]

Dont forget that they even has free spotify deal but still struggling to get no1. Shut down even only get 5mil for #1 global spotify during weak week. After whole free spotify deal. After whole those privileges. YG always about "Fake it till make it".

[@volhan.p.9722]

I don't hate BLACKPINK at all, in fact, they were my entry point to K-Pop (not first K-Pop artist I became familiar with, but first one I was interested in more than one song). They have good music, but a bit repetitive for my taste. And they don't make their music, so it's hard for me to be connected. I personally don't have issues with these women. But their company? Oh, don't let me start. I hope when BLACKPINK' contracts will end they leave their label and will go the ways each of them will be happy with. That's not BLACKPINK who needs to be shamed for all this crap, it's fcking YG. I really can't even blame any of BLACKPINK members because I don't know where their decisions and opinions end and YG's start. I don't even know if there are any of their own decisions and opinions. All of this is such a mess. As for mentioning their name, I completely agree with BoraCity. YG always trying to put their name next to BTS' name. And this mediaplay leads to misconception that BP are as big as BTS when they don't even close. They don't even that big in Korea. So even if we all know who they are, it's strategic to not put their name next to BTS in BTS dedicated video. I really really want for female K-Pop artist to be big enough to be recognised around the world, but not with the ways YG using to fake BP's success. Unfortunately. There's a lot of female K-Pop artists who make their own music and love what they are doing. And again it's not BP. So, in conclusion: BoraCity is refusing to mention groups names because she doesn't want the artists to be attacked, because it's not even their fault and not to create mediaplay for them, bringing their name next to BTS. Yeontan is V's dog and he is ADORABLE. I swear all BTS and ARMY are in love with him. Suga has the cutest doggie (he lives with his parents now) and J-Hope have adorable dog too, but Yeontan is in his own league, he is perfection of a puppy. And for sure he is an A-list celebrity to appear on Purple Carpet

[@erume5776]

you have a good point about the name censoring

[@aishwaryaahirrao]

I agree 💯

[@hoanhuynh7059]

I used to have no opinion about them, but seeing their acting while accepting awards are too fake to me. They have been in this industrial for 6 years so there is no way they don't know. Even BTS never attended this award show.

[@volhan.p.9722]

@@hoanhuynh7059 oh, I am not saying they don't know. I am sure they do. We just don't know their honest opinion about that, because they are not allowed to have an opinion. Of course they would act fake if they know that their award wasn't honestly deserved. Are they choose what show to attend or what award to buy or buy at all? No. Can they express their distaste of the way YG doing things? I don't think so. Like, look at them, are they music artists at all? YG not even trying to make them to be authentic or give them artistic freedom. Years without any music while the group in its prime. They are performers, yes, but I am not sure they even enjoying what they do. Lisa maybe, but again, she is called a rapper, but doesn't make her music. I am just sad for them and wish them better.

[@jennaeveliina313]

Yeontan is a Veteran Celebrity already.✋️

[@fatia4076]

Tbh it's not about blackpink it's about their label when BP debuted they were promoted as the girl version of bts even on their apple music discretion the media play and the money yg spent on it is some crazy sht I can't get behind it #freebts

[@christineenright7491]

She may avoid actually naming them because Korea's laws around what one can print are much stricter than those in the US and England. I am absolutely no expert but I have read reports that all of the music producers including BiHit have taken individuals and organizations to court for what they have written about their artist. In fact, BigHit has publicly thanked ARMY for alerting them to such posts and articles. Also, while your position in the Grammy's is shared by many, the fact that BTS had not won a Grammy was used by some in the Korean Goverenment as a reason not to give BTS members a military exemption. Korean athletes and classical/traditional musicians who have won old medals or other so called prestigious foreign recognition are exempted from their military obligation. The issue of military exemption was a huge political football and the actual BTS members did not seek an exemption but their lack of a Grammy was raised as an issue.

[@flikasingh9596]

It’s a thing. We don’t name names within the groups it gets crazy if you do.

[@amberpearce710]

FACTS!!! and Blinks are very TOXIC!!! (At least majority of the ones I have encountered). Also at least she had the balls to show their picture. Most people wouldn’t even do that. She even gets tons of hate for showing their pictures because she is “being” disrespectful or hating on the group. Which she isn’t (though I can see why people might see it that way) just explain her points by her research.

[@keannalewia8862]

@@amberpearce710 this!!!🥲

[@9mmstella]

@@amberpearce710 they will NEVER admit anything if it hurts their image. Blinks got caught cheating for whosfan and idolplus and the website said it themselves that blinks cheated and the admins had to remove the votes for Blackpink because it was botted + VPN and when blinks heard about it they talked about how korean award shows are rigged and that they’re targeting BLACKPINK. I confronted them, but they said that they don’t believe they cheated and no matter what proof you give they won’t back down. I think they know, but they gen don’t want to admit stuff like this. This stuff isn’t being disrespectful, it’s just facts.

[@carolinesch.]

You know what I don't get why set up your group that? I'm not gonna deny it was the great year for blackpink, but if you do shady stuff like that, people are gonna question it. And gonna say did they really deserve this, for every single Award. Why set up your own group like that.

[@Jurnalist_]

The look is more important that the integrity when trying to explode fast in America. A scandal to the top is as good as a hit record sometimes.

[@erume5776]

that's such an army approach to the buisness haha, do it fairly if you want the music to be taken seriously, because both bts and armys are here for music actually, while these groups taking short cheat routes are here for the flashlights. as bts sing, "the world's expectations - we ain't about it, that step of being the best - we ain't about it, crowns and flowers, countless trophies - we ain't about it, dream and hope, and goin' forward - we so about it"

[@aimeeshayfreeman261]

Q

[@CP_LUVS]

Thanks for the reaction. Again, loved hearing your perspectives. On the Eiffel tower topic, if you go back to that screenshot of some of the posts (these are before Elon started letting people buy blue checks for their accounts) you can see the Eiffel Tour and Stade de France official accounts joining in on the fun for the made up award show ARMY created LOL.

[@Jurnalist_]

😂😂😂 that’s a deep cut find right there.

[@NanciBK]

This is kind of off topic, but I find it very amusing that starting in 2013, the year BTS debuted in June, out the top ten streaming songs in Korea *Every Year BTS was minimum 5 out of the 10, sometimes 8 of the 10.* This indie group from a broke ass company. That’s the kind of shit that got the large labels panties in a twist and gunning for BTS big time. They terrified the large labels - and for good reason! Big Hit/Hybe, the house that BTS built, is now bigger than all three of the “big three” labels combined. They saw their end coming for them and they fought like hell against it and they lost. Borahae! 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜

[@mamejoe2043]

Borahae💜💜💜💜

[@CantFindAUsername01]

I love that boracity included the purple carpet towards the end. IT WAS A COMPLETE BLAST ON TWITTER, and people get so damn creative with the attendees; my favourite is Thor with the ARMY bomb. Ah good times, man😔

[@alicesworld1]

She redacts because she does not want to fuel the toxicity between both fandoms. I believe that is why they do not have individual accounts on Twitter. It seems to be the most toxic. (Anyone else think the same?) They are most active on Instagram.

[@significant_other]

ARMY know we are the best marketing team in the world so we don't give any promo to anyone. That's why we always bleep other people's name coz too many times we trended something accidentally 😅 So if we wanna talk about billboard being racist we use the word williamboard, dumboard etc. But when we need something done we'll trend it intentionally like #Spotifycorrupt to make sure Spotify pull their act together 🤭

[@mamejoe2043]

I just love I remember when we reacted and my friend was like it like Army we command and it done cos things were changing and it like they panicked. I love all my ARMY family 💜💜💜💜

[@erume5776]

that was meme that says when something frustrating happens army skip all stages of acceptance and go from denial to humor right away lol true

[@anastashiam1154]

Grammys are a joke - BTS are already legends without it

[@hoanhuynh7059]

I used to have no opinion on BP because I don't like their music so I don't care about them. Now, I think they are too fake because there is no way they don't know the awards are brought. They are good actresses for sure being able to act while accepting those awards.

[@redisamazed]

I meannn what do u want them to do other than act surprised(if they actually knew the awards were brought)? Any artist in their place would've done the same thing :/

[@ThaisAlvesHere]

Dude BP have the most toxic fans of the world this is why she don't say their names

[@Jurnalist_]

I’m not used to fans being actually toxic. So I just want the information. 😂🤷🏾‍♂️

[@oldest__dream]

​@@Jurnalist_ oh man get ready bcs kpop stans are one of the worst people to encounter on the internet 💀

[@moonadict7]

Not showing other kpop groupes names is pretty commone in kpop related videos it's usualy to avoid fan wars (kpop fan wars are kinda horrible taking on consideration how well organised most of us are, the worst is when the younger fans fight there no way to stop theme when they are started) so her not showing Blackpink name is actually a Signe of respect in some way it's like saying "don't hate that groupe it's not theire falt" so Blinks (fans of Blackpink) dont feel like she is direcly critisising BP and people who dont know BP will not have a bad impression of BP juste because of this video or something like that idk how to explain it in a clean way I'm basicly saying that she probably dosnt hate BP she probably hate YG entertaiment tho (YG entertaiment is Blackpink's company) Ps: sorry if my english is confusing i didnt double check myself and i'm not a natif so sorry on advance

[@aresyoung1878]

Creo que no se trata de odiar a BP ni mucho menos, y tampoco de decir quien merece el premio y quien no. Lo que sucede es que se trataba de votaciones, y los números mostraban otra cosa. Army nunca contraataca ni hace acusaciones sin tener las pruebas verídicas.

[@erika-g4mer_yoongi207]

Y también porque es obvio quién ganaría, no son tan famosos en lo que respecta a la calidad de la música y las transmisiones, solo tienensolo muchas vistas y muchos suscriptores en youtube con cierta popularidad, pero cuando se trata de ventas y spotify, por ejemplo, están lejos de BTS. Por eso hay corrupción. De hecho, ni siquiera están acostumbrados a ganar este premio en los VMA, fue extraño que se les diera este premio.

[@rafaelsmith5737]

30:42 This is literally like the song "My WAY or high WAY" 🤣

[@Jurnalist_]

😂

[@nicolespeechley-carmody1675]

Don't apologize for being you. Thank you for your time and effort I appreciate your work. I find your insight fascinating and your intelligence refreshing

[@Jurnalist_]

So nice of you, y’all are trying to get a tear out of me. 😭😭😂

[@BnBReactions]

I really love your perspective. My cousin is in music & he says everything youre saying. Loving the bluntness & honesty!

[@Jurnalist_]

I appreciate that! More power to your cousin.

[@Ju1Si]

5:56 ‘we as the army….’.. awe 💜 welcome. big hug !😄💜

[@smcqueen2801]

I saw the scammies real time, kept saying "BTS is up next" ...so I continued to watch...and 3 hours later they finally were "up next" and then cut their performance short. Absolutely terrible. "Best Group Duo" then goes to two solo artist that collaborated together

[@wendydubbelyou]

I think the reason she doesn't say blackpink's name is to avoid pottential lawsuits. Not because of her personal feelings towards the group. (I don't even think boracity hate them)

[@Jurnalist_]

Now that I know it makes sense.

[@ebereokolo2662]

1:23 the loud snort I let out when you said that. You are quickly becoming one of my favorite reactors between this, your detailed thoughts/explanations, and the whole North Carolina thing you kept saying in that other video😂😂😂😂

[@ckim3926]

This is one of many factors why I stopped watching the award shows. Why would I want to watch shows that award people they want to give? There's no involvement of "us" in their choice making AND the uninspiring music with no life in them. I only started watching them because I found BTS, but BTS doesn't need these award shows and I don't need them either to enjoy music again. BTS music has encouraged me to take the moments in the now and move onward in life and just love life and enjoy good music.

[@meiong5206]

If she hate black pink, she will say her name. It's call respect and it's more about playing it fair.

[@angelgirlpark8046]

grammy scrammy is the most racist award show ever ! BTS don't need a grammy to show case who they are. BTS are the grammy, that not even racist american scrammy can measure up to. STAN BTS FOREVER !🥰💜💜💜💜💜💜💜🥰

[@AngelaSealana]

No ARMY hates BlackPink. The issue with BlackPink isn't the group, it's their management. They're gorgeous, talented artists. Their management wastes it all for money and clout.

[@pennybleta9721]

Exactly this. And blinks are too delusional and brainwashed to admit it. Even though there are a few exceptions.

[@Ellxnt]

Idk why, we as viewers, now knowing how the Grammy’s work, should believe they hold so much value.. If the Academy is just a group of musicians producers, etc. who live in LA, and that to get a Grammy, you have to “hang out” with them, does it really say anything about how good your music is? All it really says is that this artist is well aquatinted with the academy. Why should we as viewers care who this small group of individuals in LA choose to give the award to? Why does their opinion hold so much value? To me, the Grammy’s is like a fraternity or sorority that hazes freshman before they make their decision to accept or reject them

[@Jurnalist_]

Yes the music still is good but lesser good music can win sometimes if you don’t rub shoulders.

[@Jurnalist_]

The fraternity analogy is pretty apt.

[@pennybleta9721]

@@Jurnalist_ But there are times when the music that won is not good. To me it's the same as Industry plants. They are not good enough to have success on their own and need connections and money to have success. For me Olivia Rodrigo and BP especially BP are Industry plants. But as you can see Olivia Rodrigo dominated the Grammys even when better songs and albums exist. Same with countless of other examples when other artists should have won over the winners. Eminem who is one of the people I respect exposed their asses that they only reward their darlings instead of the artists that deserve the award. And their racism is off the charts also for years. It still is. And even people who are from the Academy itself have exposed these things. To me such award shows that do not reward actual quality but those with connections even though they pretend they do, do not hold any value.

[@erume5776]

nah, grammy voting system is too sketchy for me to respect the award. sure it's a big and heavy name, but i can't because the legitimacy of this "consideration" isn't there. what's the point of music award if the only way to get it is pretty words to important people, not your music itself. BBMA and AMA are at least based on charts or fanvotings, like sure they are not perfect too and there are their own ways to manipulate everything around, but it's something i have more control over as a music consumer than the grammys

[@iduli02]

Excuse me for asking but why would a grammy mean anything when it's just an ass kissing contest? As you said you just need to bootlick hard enough to win one, so why do you place any importance on it? To me it has even less importance than an AMA or billboard award because at least you earned them with the numbers you pulled in, but Grammys is just partying and ass kissing the right people to win it's a bit embarrassing (in my opinion).

[@Jurnalist_]

Because if you can get past the boot licking the selection and fraternity you get to be apart of as an artist is a dream we have. Or at least my feelings on it. To say I have a best artist Grammy and best album Grammy like Micheal and other legends I’ve loved would be a hyunta in the end but it’s a goal I’ve always wanted.

[@nuhkyah23]

@@Jurnalist_ well your dream is your dream, BTS also has that dream too but it's interesting to me that everyone can agree that it's a corrupt organization and the nominations and winners are very often not fair but they still want one. It's a very interesting 🤔 phenomenon.

[@girlboss4479]

@@Jurnalist_ we still put up with the grammys because bts wants one but we have no real hope of getting it. we have a small wish that our boys can fulfill their dream more so we support them in fact, we started to boycott this award, we don't give as much engagement on social media and watch only when BTS appears. this award put the boys through a lot and we really hate it The funny thing is bts played 4 sold out shows at allegiant stadium and it was also broadcast by 'live play' at the mgm grand garden arena - where the grammys took place a few days later. The city was colored purple for two weeks in honor of bts and the army, it really became our city, boravegas. Best of all, everyone who arrived to participate in the Grammys, probably those involved in the category nominations and everything in between must have seen the demand and power of bts x army in action. The army can be spiteful😁

[@haidyhatem104]

12:52 exactly. And as Zayn once said "Fuck the grammys and everyone associated. Unless you shake hands and send gifts, there's no nomination considerations. Next year I'll send you a basket of confectionary." It would be great if you react to his last album "nobody is listening" a great album

[@crystlk123]

You are misinterpreting why they don't mention the other groups. Army has a phrase "NO FREE PROMO". Lots of these kpop groups pick fights and try to use Army for mentions and attention, or coat ride on BTS' fame.

[@carolinesch.]

Just Like the hardship Video: most of the time it's not about the artist but the company and the fandom I think

[@flyushkifly]

You know what's funny? I really don't know what you look like. I listen to your videos on my phone while working. Good voice for the air! 😏😅

[@Jurnalist_]

Thank you. This was nice to hear excuse the pun. I’m actually self conscious about my voice. 💜

[@flyushkifly]

@@Jurnalist_ oh, don't be! You have a great tone. 👍

[@akhoharo1223]

I’m getting to start to get addicted to your most honest and straightforward reaction and I’m loving it how you shamelessly name the artist straight to the point without hesitation and that what is should be I love how you react more to BTS insight information rather than just reacting their music without proper knowledge about our boys which is a lot reactor’s do so… from what I’ve seen and watched of your channel your doing a great job I really think that so far you are one of the some genuine reactor’s specially towards our boys because you talk’s facts and and you let us know the real shit in western awards shows 😅 I’m a fan of you now keep doing a good job BTS army will support you 💜💜💜💜💜

[@Jurnalist_]

Ty very much for this comment. Yes I will keep doing more and growing the channel and myself. Thank you for joining me on this journey.

[@marveled.maggie]

about blackpink my guess is that besides the wrong counting of votes, money, deals, corruption and shady stuff of their company and award shows, deep down many people get frustrated because blackpink don't show the same passion and love for music as BTS while some awards are fairly given to them, the ones that aren't feel even more unjust because they doesn't really seem to care about making music we actually don't know what is in their contract and how much freedom they have to explore their artistic creativity they're good performers but most their stuff has the same producer (teddy), they have some songs that were bought and there's basically no involvement or interest shown in making songs but the media makes it seem like their out of this world, that they're a revolution (that word is used a lot) i honestly like them but i'm not sure if they like what they do sometimes i am curious to see what happens in August, if they renew their contracts, if it's revealed they modified parts of it i think that will show well where they want to take their careers

[@eileencritchley4630]

ha ha ha you are so right about us Brits and our use of sarcasm. Love how you used our term 'taking the piss out of....' Brilliant Hazzuh.

[@Jurnalist_]

I’m almost a transplant the amount of uk slang I use now. Sarcasm is still a under developed tool.

[@BAMMIE7613]

We did an Award show this year too. it was fun😂😂

[@Ann--or1dk]

YESS! the BTS wrapped awards.... tbh though, RIGGED -_-

[@jinphany.]

Was this the purple carpet thing on twt? 😭

[@BAMMIE7613]

@@jinphany. yess😂😂

[@Department_of_Justice]

It's actually very standard for fanbases to avoid naming other groups as they don't want to reward clout-chasing by mention.

[@Jurnalist_]

In my experience I’ve never seen it. But learning how these fandoms act I can see why.

[@jinphany.]

@@Jurnalist_ if you go on Twitter and dive into the fandoms, no one mentions rival groups by full names. "Colour group/grp" is another example of what armys sometimes refer to blackpink as. It's to make it harder for blackpink fans to stumble across army tweets because they aren't being made containing the name blackpink. However most of the time its petty insults. I mean this 2022 alone we saw many colourful names given to bts and armys. Some of armys new nicknames from antis (kpoppies) are lilac lieutenants, purple dinosaurs, thanos coloured mfs, military fandom,,,, as you can see it's all very petty name calling, though i remember none of the army was offended by these names and found them funny 😂

[@andreapino2359]

she said at the end that artists shouldn't be ashamed of being small or medium. She never said that they shouldn't be ashamed of participating in all the hoax. You should hear everything first before commenting. regards!

[@gailjkbias0T7]

BTS wont smooze for the Grammy.. they never go to any Hollywood parties or after parties ever… they’ve had 5 nominations tho

[@lipikaafroj7124]

What blackpink did to her ?? I think what blackpink fanbase did to her ?? Their fans are brutal, they are obsessed with bts or I can say with army. When I say obsessed, literally obsessed to the death to discriminate bts, whenever bts achieve anything they make their own theory to show that their group still the biggest group in the universe 😂 😂 & because of this fanbase I don't like much blackpink. Though I used to listen to their songs once upon a time but I get bored, cause they sound same like other kpop, there's nothing new about their music. They don't even write produce their own song because their label did not allow them (though they say they have write some songs ) So comparing them to bts is hilarious, but media always shows them the biggest, thats why she always bring that group & says the facts with prove how big they are. That's why I respect her.

[@iduli02]

She doesn't say blackpink's name to protect them so I don't think she "hates" them, she does this to all kpop groups :) I said this in another video already but most army who make videos like this leave out group names and don't show who they're talking about to not cause more fanwars and to "protect" the artists they're talking about, especially if the artists are shown in a bad light. They mainly do this to other kpop artists because kpop fans are ruthless and the last thing we want is /another/ fanwar, I'm surprised she even is showing blackpink at all honestly.

[@CloudedLeopard8588]

I think you’re missing the point. BTS have struggled to be heard throughout their careers. They are huge and are trying to do it without playing the system. While you give sound ideas like attending parties and smooshing, BTS don’t want to do it this way. For a start the group never attends the after parties for these awards, they go back to their hotel and do a live with Army. For BTS, they have achieved this level of success without the institutions, with fan wars, anti etc so they don’t need to bend their principles. The Grammys was an aim, but they will be just as successful without any awards. They love music and army and that is their fuel to success. I like that bts are huge based on talent and their fandom, unlike the American artist who is gaming the system to be top. By the way, please understand that these videos don’t mention the other groups because of the hardships both bts and the army suffered back in the day. You just watched the hardships video by xceleste, in it she showed you what the fans of other idols were doing to bring down bts. So to avoid more hate these video creators don’t mention the names of the other artists. It’s not that she hates them, she understands the backlash armies will feel if they mention the names.

[@aishwaryaahirrao]

14:20 lmao..i love it too how she doesn't say their name..it's really funny, and i know exactly why i find it so funny..like i would do the same as her, if i was her ngl🤣 I'm giggling here with you..i feel ya

[@Department_of_Justice]

Social media mentions are part of the fanbase competitions. If you look at all fan produced videos, they won't mention their names because (positive or negative) mentions boost their rating. Also, in SK, there are strict rules regarding their version of slander.

[@aishwaryaahirrao]

@@Department_of_Justice yup

[@ralphy383]

31:00 ARMYs are so funny 😂😂😂😂 Sometimes I go on twitter and some of the stuff armys say and do will have you laying flat and clutching your stomach while you struggle to breathe 😂😂😂 You will loose your lungs laughing at some of the shit... There is entire layers and layers of meta jokes that armys have crafted over the years. Some of the best stuff is on an account called "keepstrugglin" 😂

[@mamejoe2043]

😂😂😂😂😂 I just love them

[@cherylloper7320]

I'm not ignorant, but I just hate seeing these things....It makes one wonder how BTS can stay so humble. I did catch one thing you said out of many....."How can we as Army".......I knew in this short time of reacting to BTS, that you would definitely get bitten. And you haven't event watched some of their most exciting performances. Welcome to the Army!!!

[@Jurnalist_]

It happens when you pay attention I think. You can’t deny when you actually look.

[@flyushkifly]

BTS, their original CEO and creator PD Bang, and other producers at BigHit have been members of the Grammy Recording Academy. The Academy invited them the year their new president, who replaced the previously rejected racist president, was making gestures at inclusivity. While promoting Butter, they also gave industry brown-nosing a try to win over Academy members. This was after HYBE (their newly formed IPO umbrella company) bought Ithaca Holdings. (CEO Bang is 🤞 with Scooter Braun, according to their Instas.) RM told JK, during a live stream after one of their 4 sold out concerts in SoFi Stadium in 2021, that he was at a party and jokingly asked Scooter to "just let us have one (nomination/award). Justin has 5. Just give us one!" I have theories about that entire endeavor. I'm wondering how much he regretted that later. ARMYs - I welcome fact checking for anything I misremembered. Thanks, babez! 😊

[@flyushkifly]

In other words, ARMY knows what the Grammys are all about. 😁

[@emiraseav9293]

I dont think she hates blackpink themselves but rather the idea of "blackpink" and what they stand for or the lack of. Blackpink are prime examples of media play, doesn't help when the fans try to promote them as "artists". I personally don't have problems with most things but I understand where she's coming from. Kind of like a "fair play" sentiment and she feels iffy about how they are technically in a sense very "industrial made". No hate, just trying to put things into perspective. Also english is not my native language so excuse me if I was harsh or anything and feel free to disagree.

[@geekyreader34]

im not a black pink fan at all. but its just the music seems very generic to me and sounds very similar to other k pop girl groups

[@amberpearce710]

I do like a few of their song but I am not really their fan…despite what Blink say about them being treated wrongly (which I know they have, which is sad), but still doesn’t make the ARTISTS from what I know. They are PERFORMERS. Also most of their music their lyrics (which is important to me) aren’t that great. (Which might have to do with the company, but still…) I think the girls are talented and from what I seen sweethearts but still…

[@Yoonji9212]

What's holding me from listening to BP is blinks. They ruined BP for me. I wanted to listen to their songs just to see if they are good but blinks just ruined it. I can't listen to BP without thinking that something must be wrong if so much toxic people love them. And yes, i know that some Army's are toxic too but I've seen more wholesome Armys than toxic and I've seen only few non toxic blinks.

[@christyjosephcchristyjosep8806]

@@Yoonji9212 OOO REALLY GO AND READ THE HATE TWEETS LISA GOT FOR THE LITTLE MISTAKE FROM SPOTIFY THE MOST TOXIC FANDOM IS ARMPITS

[@Yoonji9212]

@@christyjosephcchristyjosep8806 and look at this. Another BLINK who is mad because I said MY PERSONAL experience with your fandom. I didn't said that there is no toxic ARMY( that's the name of our fandom. You seem to not know this) I said that I've seen more wholesome Army's and a little of toxic ones. And you just proved my point by screaming at me and disrespecting our fandom name.

[@shheih285]

@@Yoonji9212 As an Army, I kinda like the name Armpits for the toxic portion of Army, but they're a very small portion despite how loud they are. It's the fact that too many people, especially in the media, only pay attention to the Armpits that gives the rest of us a bad name. BP has some nice stuff, but I personally prefer Mamamoo.

[@beabonilla486]

In my experience it has only been about 2-3 Fandoms that constantly attack BTS and those girlies fans r the top offenders. For me, I used to just let it b white noise and lump them in as inoffensive and just following the company rules but it's come to the point where I have them muted. It's ZERO engagement, they only feed off it and it's so toxic and delusional.

[@ebony7177]

Again I think you are putting your Western attitude on Kpop artists and you can't do that. BP have no choice where they go. Their label calls that shot and you have to stop putting Western practices and ideals on them. BTS are an anomaly in their industry, they have more agency than MOST acts from SK. There are very few kpop artists who wouldn't go to the VMAs to be seen in an arena that they don't have as much access to. So we aren't blaming BP we are blaming their agency which is another reason to not use names. The artists aren't the ones paying off industry people, that's their companies.

[@Jurnalist_]

I definitely am and I get the contractual obligations. But I also get it’s just my opinion while also having no knowledge of Korean culture or business. I’m learning but my education is very little at the moment.

[@user-si9yo8oe4u]

In Korea, you can be sued by company if you make this kind of video with the name mentioned in it. (The law name is 'factual defamation'. This is one of the reason why we censor the name when we post/write about them. ) We have to be really careful😅

[@amberpearce710]

Really!? I didn’t know this…

[@AngelaSealana]

Coming to LA to "hang out" and get a Grammy -- does that not favor people who are fluent in English?

[@Jurnalist_]

Yes in a way but I think the thing English affords is we don’t care being places we can’t speak with people easily. But I’ve noticed that it’s the reverse for people who don’t speak English easily. They do not like being around if they cannot communicate. The hangout is more about being seen and also you can bond over spirits and libations. Those do not need anything but positive energies to work.

[@thegeekoutgirl]

4:19 We always redact names. It helps to mitigate dumb fan wars. I always say I don't hate BlackPink or any other group, but I do hate fandoms lol. I even hate a lot of "ARMYs" lol. I just find fan wars to be so useless and dramatic and escalates to bad things that affect the artists they supposedly love. Anyyyways though. I actually feel bad for Blackpink a lot. They've very talented, but I think their company doesn't handle them well and doesn't give them enough freedom to do what they want. But that's another huge issue that deserves a video essay in of itself haha. But Blackpink will pop up a lot in this kind of discourse because it is what happened. And we see the shady stuff people do, like giving the vote based award that BTS won to Blackpink. Or how just recently, their fandom got caught cheating by two different voting award apps by using vpns and got all their fraudulent votes taken away. I don't get how they think this is how Blackpink wants to win. But 🤷‍♀ 18:18 It's not over the top if that's what happened. Facts are facts lol and boracity has the receipts to prove it. Just going to note that you might underestimate the craziness of fan wars because you're not in it and I hope you never get caught in the crossfire of it hahaha. It gets pretty bad. And that is one of the big reasons for the redactions and why someone people are very careful about mentioning other groups or fandoms publicly. Fandoms will unfortunately defend their faves regardless of what is right or what is wrong.

[@museofwind9004]

Girls are lazy asf. They are rich enough to buy their own studios or, at least, pay for a week to work in someone other's one. They dont do ut bc it seems they dgaf about being artists. Their latest tour proved it as well, their own fans were complaining about how lazy they were on stage

[@thegeekoutgirl]

@@museofwind9004 I just agree that I don’t think their main focus is music artistry.

[@squishycoveswena]

I tell you, it is always a wild time on twitter when there is f*ckery afoot with awards. Like when Armys voted so hard they changed the voting systems. Or BTS get snubbed. Honestly army twitter is so fun.

[@Jurnalist_]

Fuckery afoot 😂😂😂 I never got how Twitter worked.

[@squishycoveswena]

@Jurnalist it's been rough since musk rat took over (currently hundreds of us are shadowbanned for no reason) but usually it can be fun if you have your right niche group and tailor your interests and content you wanna see. Army Twitter in general is hilarious but there is a running joke that most of the humor feels like you are laughing at a funeral. They can also be absolute savages with comebacks.

[@kemjohnson5690]

You can pause and talk as much as you want. That is what I enjoy about your reactions. I consider myself someone who likes music. I have more appreciation for music now, especially learning about non-American artists than I did when I was younger. I really want to study music and pick up learning to play the alto saxophone again. In reference to your channel, as RM says in one of his songs "Do you." I will continue to watch. I will check out your Patreon but may have to wait to join due to finances right now. 💜💜

[@Jurnalist_]

You just watching my yt is enough. I’d like to do this full time so the patreon helps financially as music and copyright make it hard to make money on yt. But please do not feel like you have to join. Please take care of you finances first and always. I hope we both get more financial freedom ASAP 😂

[@kemjohnson5690]

Facts! That is why I say I'm financially challenged and not broke because I do have more than most. Hey I just made a little rhyme 😂.

[@Jurnalist_]

@@kemjohnson5690 exactly the way my lies bank account is set up. That financial freedom deposit is still pending. It has not cleared yet. But when it do. 😂😂😂😤

[@Hotshortie]

I disagree with your comment about Rolling Stone, I feel like they've cleaned house over the last several years and have some good reporters & mgmt. There are several editors over at Billboard who shouldn't work in Journalism. Reporting that ARMY fans aren't real. Saying we are bots but then who fills up those stadiums? They don't seem to know how to research and don't get me started on The Hollywood Reporter, the worst. ALSO: I've worked for Viacom/MTV/VH1 booking talent. Too many stories to tell.

[@Jurnalist_]

RS is one of the worst musical publications going right now. It’s only name alone that they are respected now. They were a great publication but now I can’t stand the pieces they put out at this point. To be fair though I’ve only read a few things from recent people and I was not impressed. I would like them to change but I’m not holding my breath. The people running legacy media have gotten comfy and don’t put the effort and time in. They are more concerned with the title they hold and understand the power it wields and I feel are abusing it. That’s dope Viacom runs the world and a lot of people haven’t even heard of them before. Any tips on getting booked as talent and how to find bookings?

[@marirezende8478]

@@Jurnalist_ don't have many problems with RS, but that list was funny yeah. I loath THR, The Guardian and Pitchfork personally.

[@Jurnalist_]

Pitchfork is a travesty

[@emelyroll7]

That kpop group is an example of everything that is wrong in the industry, they buy prizes, the members don't make their music, they don't sing live, they don't even sing live at their concerts, the performances are weak, their label lies saying that fill stadiums, when in reality they have never played in one and the arenas don't even fill them. everything is mediplay, everything is a lie. They don't even care about the music, is it necessary to name the group? I don't believe it. BTS's success was gradual, it was honest, it was and is difficult, but it was real. Thank you for the video 💜

[@ArmantoAlex13]

BlackPink? Just say their name here! They (and their record label) SHOULD be shamed for the fakes that they are! I’ve heard nothing but complaints from concertgoers of theirs, yet in the media, they report their performances as though they’re first class performers! It’s disgusting!

[@emelyroll7]

@@ArmantoAlex13 Ok, Blackpink is a group built on lies, they have no talent, it's all money, nothing is real, nothing is about the music, nothing is honest. obviously they should be embarrassed, but they won't, because the band and the label just want money and be famous or make people think they are famous, because they literally buy everything and everyone.

[@roses_are_rosee6676]

@@emelyroll7 Blackpink is known for singing live, who trying to fool? Jennie is one of the best f rappers, Lisa one of the best f dancers, rosé one of the best f vocalists and jisoo is also a good vocalist. If they’re successful then it’s definitely for a reason, you must be one of the most jealous and immature bts fan out there. How can a fan be that pressed to discredit a group or bring a group just to praise their own fave group? Blackpink outsold every group except for bts. Watch how BTS and BP OUTDID you. Ur a very average poor little kid

[@IThink2Much]

As everyone else said, she doesn't "hate" BP. I'm fairly certain it's a combination of knowing that S Korea's laws against slander/liable are strict and can have consequences for anyone who isn't careful and also because she doesn't want fandom wars in her comments. You should check out 4 videos by a yt channel called Two Set Violin (probably better on your own time)...Paganini Reacts to Shut Down, Paganini "Sell Out", They Tried to Cancel Our Concert, and Toxic Kpop Fans. These guys are professional musicians who did satire about a recent BP song that sampled classical music by Paganini. Let's just say BP fans were NOT pleased. This will give you an idea of what they are like. And just in case you decide to react to BP (if you haven't already), I would also recommend being careful what you say about them and their fans...unless you just like all kinds of drama in your comments. But, honestly....I think it's likely BTS will get at least one Grammy without having to shmooze. As she mentioned in the video, awards shows have been facing a decline in numbers except when BTS is in attendance. One of the things Korean awards shows did this year to get ARMY's attention is to honor them in outstanding ways (one show even created an award that only BTS will likely qualify to win for many years to come) and having other artists perform quite a few of their songs. I think American awards shows are likely to find some way to get ARMY's engagement. The fact that BTS have 3 Grammy noms this year is already a pretty good sign. But no one is holding their breath at the same time. But, anywho. Thanks for the reaction. 😊

[@basicallybored4962]

I think the reason the names are censored is because even negative attention just adds to the hype and popularity/media attention of those mentioned groups. It's like when u view a video just to dislike it. The video is still getting views from u. Everyone knows (at one point) who boracitymagazine/xceleste etc are talking about and ig in a way they are not worth it to be even mentioned by name. Also mentioning names is just unnecessary, simply because they only need to represent the problem, that many groups/labels have, as a whole (the individual groups and their names don't matter, because the inherent issue is the same with all/most of them)

[@JayneAngelinaSkye]

The reason for name redactions is because that fanbase will attack. They made another KZbinr apologize with a 50m long video to them and BP. Certain truths hurt ppl can't handle it. They think it's plain hating when it's not. Especially not with boramagazine. It's not hate or beef. It's facts.

[@wildlotus4339]

I noticed Bts had to work really extra extra hard to climb up. I was often afraid they broke their bodies and mental before reaching the top like this.

[@Jurnalist_]

No they are far stronger than that and the core of the group is so tight they didn’t lose much out of any of themselves I feel

[@charach7855]

@@Jurnalist_ you should see them behind the stage on the concert. It make us sad when we see them hurt and hard for them to walk/perform yet they push themselves so much. We actually don't mind if one person hurt that the person continue singing by sitting on the chair but sometimes they just push themselves too much. One day you might come across to a video clip that show them bow to the audiences as a thank you at the end of the concert with 2 members supporting one of the member because he could not stand by himself. his legs could not fully support him.

[@Kookiepookie2025]

@@Jurnalist_ the had their hard time along the way but they get back up 💪💪🥺💜

[@Jurnalist_]

@@Kookiepookie2025 you must always get back up

[@loredell]

@@Jurnalist_ ON :) (Kinetic Manifesto Film)

[@purple428]

next good video by boracity is “why boybands hiatus doesn’t apply to bts” 😁

[@foreverwereyoungarmy5657]

She's not hating but spilling the facts without disrespecting

[@Juju0LM]

12:23 But that's what she's aiming for: When is the time for consideration? Why can someone submit work to the Grammys and two years later it appears as a nominee or send it in a year and not even get a negative response? These questions cannot be answered with certainty because no dates are clearly established. And as much as you defend the Grammys (I have no idea why) they don't have any voting criteria for those music critics.... And, don't pull the visibility card, because the Weeknd wasn't even nominated for anything! He is still today the most popular artist on all americans platforms.

[@Jurnalist_]

The voting criteria to have a vote are working musicians who are registered with a PRO( performing rights org ) I have seen someone have music out for two years and then two years later that album get a nom. I could be wrong if I am please tell me who. It’s not I defend the Grammys the institution is corrupt. However as artist knowing this we still want our gold phonograph

[@meiong5206]

Grammy is the most corrupted though. They don't even tell you the rules. It's not even about music anymore. I'd about hanging put with their people???

[@meralys21]

Dude is not that she hates BP, she's going over the categories BTS was nominated trying to make a point about the attendance and BP were the ones that won some as those categories same as she focused on Joh Harlow which won another one of the categories. She's talking about BTS and BP won over them cus they attended so of course she will address that. If it was another artist that had attended and given the award not Black pink she would have mentioned that artist instead.

[@justineturner3185]

Extraordinary Attorney Woo

[@Tkara8]

Tbh boracity’s videos are made for people to understand things about the music industry that most Armys didnt know about before BTS. But you seems to already know all this information lol id rather you learn more about BTS themselves. She didnt mentioned blackpink bc as soon as you call out other groups the comments become a bloodbath, blackpinks fandom can be really vicious. Its really not about the artists themselves, but the fandoms. She just wants to inform armys without causing fanwars.

[@worldwidechubbyguy2.018]

She uses BP because it's only done on BP. BP's management is known to do this. BP is not a truly musical group. They are not artists - they are mere performers, or they are forced to, but they are times you would see that they do not really like it. Maybe at times they do, Lisa is a good performer, so as Rose and Jisoo - but they never create materials that come from their hearts - could be that they are not being allowed to.. but people in the agency have let their own other artists to create their own music like GD or CL before so yeah

[@VictoriaLovesMusic]

that kimkai is a exo fan instigating is their specialty this is what we mean how they start to flock over to new bts reactors and cause problems for no reason this is what we deal with 😭🤣

[@yasminesb7947]

I noticed too... An intruder just to causing troubles between ARMY and reactors.