American Reacts to Bathurst - 41st to 3rd in 3 Laps! Ford XY GTHO

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[@markway8208]

The Ford XY GTHO Phase 3 had a top speed of 142 mph and Phase 4 had a top speed of 150 mph. At the time the Ford XY GTHO Phase 3 was in production it was the world's fastest four-door production car, a true beast of a car.

[@SeanCleverly]

I read an article years ago by someone who was in the industry and he claimed the Phase III would approach 160 m.p.h with a particular gearing set up. The Cleveland 351 engine was, and still is I believe, an amazing piece of technology, especially considering the era!

[@stephenchigwidden7504]

These cars had a primitive rev limiter that you could disable by just pulling a wire out and they were then able to do 160mph down Conrod .

[@mercurycid]

love my motorsports, but wasn't the hemi charger the fastest production car? showing my age, never been a numbers guy

[@stephenchigwidden7504]

@@mercurycid it wasn't the fastest having a top speed of 132mph but it was faster than a gtho down the quarter mile.

[@mercurycid]

@@stephenchigwidden7504 thanx mate, i remember it as being touted as the fastest production car of the era, but that makes sense, a manufacturer set a benchmark and thats the hook. serious nuts on all the cars from that time period, chargers, monaros, toranas, falcons. oi also remember ther the slogans, that only juice and milk should come in 2ltrs!!

[@ronmcgovern6581]

Yeah mate, the yellow car is an Aussie made Valiant Charger. It had a 265 cubic inch , hemi head straight six. It had triple Weber carnies and a factory fitted extractor system. The E38 and E49 were the fastest six cylinder mass produced cars in the world back in the '70s.

[@damiencook3423]

Pity they didn't develop and master the 340 v8. Almost the same cubes as the falcon but much rev-ier(i know that isn't a word). Like a 327 to a 350 sbc. Would have made an interesting comparison

[@imoovabull6042]

my dad had a "tinkered with" '70 toyota crown.. bored to 2.6lt with twin 2 barrels and the old 3 speed electric overdrive... 140 mph at 7000 rpm. what a sleeper.

[@farmerJ-zp9dj]

E49 best looking muscle car , it just needed the 340 hemi 😊

[@threestumps7560]

I loved he was going so fast even the windscreen wiper was trying to hang on.

[@tonysfossickingadventure.8124]

yeah the wipers tended to lift at about 110 MP/H, i had a 69 XW GT that had the same thing

[@mattpriest2686]

@@tonysfossickingadventure.8124 Fast enough to blow the wipers off a falcon, as the old Aussie saying goes

[@mattpriest2686]

@@Mark-gw1ss that would have been the old 531 block 5.8L(not sure if Windsor or cleavland)..my guess is that is a Cleavland . And yes the Holden Torana, a little 6 was the king of the mountain. google the GTR XU1 if your not a aussie , if your an aussie you may have been lucky enough to ride around in one of these cars

[@arkhsm]

@@mattpriest2686 Only beat the mighty HO, in the terribly rainy race at Bathurst, otherwise well-spanked !!

[@xhsndbdb7452]

Happens a lot more now as of how old the cars are getting

[@wufongtanwufong5579]

Australia muscle cars handle this track so well, because every single one of them were designed with this track in mind

[@harrywalker5836]

bullshit.. holdens were re built, to handle the track. inc. fitting ford 9" diffs.. holdens had sht front ends. diffs, g/boxes. holdens were a joke. had to win at all costs. regardless..

[@wufongtanwufong5579]

@@harrywalker5836 Go cry more Holden hold together. Fords fall apart

[@kieranh2005]

And along came Godzilla

[@racketman2u]

@@kieranh2005 ... to prove that cars didn't have to handle like a block of flats!

[@flailios]

If we change "every single one" to every single Australian developed GT, that would be a closer statement.

[@johnd8892]

G'day Ian. At 5:40 the hole is the Ford Shaker Hood. Also used first in lots of US muscle cars. Air scoop mounted on the engine so moving with the engine. At 7:00 yes a Valiant Charger.

[@mikldude9376]

Yes the old Xy GT made the shaker popular in oz , eventually you could buy them over the counter in speed shops , and some of most ridiculous cars would end up with a shaker in bonnet :) .

[@alexanderSydneyOz]

Bear in mind, the XY GTHO was built by Ford at the time with pretty much the sole purpose, of winning the endurance race at this track. So even if it starts at the very back of a mixed bag of 'old cars', you would friggin hope it gets to near the front in 3 laps! Particularly, Conrod Straight is quite long, and the GTHOs could reach (from memory) about 160mph/ 250kmh (before the huge chicane was added 2/3 the way down); way more than the top speed of most of the field. The GTHO falcon was the coolest car ever made in Oz. The track itself is phenomenal. I have recently ridden a bike up the first hill, as part of a 100km ride in the area. Man, it is soooo steep. The corners on the way back down are, also, much steeper than you would think from the video.

[@FrancoPreo]

Yeah, I took a car for a drive around there, couldn’t believe how slippery it was, especially on the Dipper! Full admiration for the guys at race speed around there

[@craignastipants1573]

That start looked like the old Wacky Races cars, was looking out Dick Dastardly and Muttley. 😆

[@aaronfischer7199]

Hey Ian thanks for that reaction video. Matt had massive car issues on the qualifying laps left him rear of field. Yes the yellow chrysler was an e38. His peak speed was just shy of 258kms/h at the peak of Conrad straight. Thanks for showing the world the fun that us Aussies have with group N racing.

[@mattpriest2686]

I had a feeling it was a lot more then 200kph . like our old xd falcon (with a little work) . The stage 5 yellow terror heads only opened up when the speedo stopped working at 200Kph

[@deldridg]

@@mattpriest2686 Aaaah - that takes me back. Dad was a Holden mechanic and fitted Yella Terra heads to our HR, a 186 bored out to 190 (from memory). He also had a 350 cfm Holley carby and when we were kids, on long drives he would pull over, announce that he'd just try different jets, mum would smile patiently and shortly after off we'd go. "Can you hear the difference kids?" he'd say. Nowadays, his '04 Pathy has 550K kms on it, many offroad but still drives like new. At 82 he's still a crack mechanic. I'll send him this vid. Good times! 🙂

[@megafauna8374]

@@deldridg There were some nice HR's and EH's in the video. My first car was a HR ute, it'd do nearly 65mph in 2nd, 3 on the tree. I loved that car. It rusted to death.

[@deldridg]

@@megafauna8374 Great stuff and those things were great fun in their day. 65 in 2nd rings a bell.... I learned to drive in that HR wagon, 3 on the tree. Dad often used to wonder whether he should convert to 4 on the floor (with a twinkle in his eye), but never did. He sold it many years ago and it still drives around Port Macquarie! When I was a small child we had an EK which drove everywhere in the NT, sometimes even on bitumen... but mostly on poorly graded bulldust roads, hundreds of dry (and some not so dry) river beds etc. Takes me back and cheers for the nostalgic comment. Love it! Cheers - Dave

[@megafauna8374]

@@deldridg Thank's..I like your memories too. A bit like mine. Dad lifting the bonnet of those old cars and being able to see the road beyond the guts of a grey or red Holden motor. Shaping a coat hanger to fix broken gear linkages or to make an aerial. Pouring ground charcoal into the radiator. Cleaning out the dead corellas, lorikeets and bugs stuck in the windscreen visor. I don't really miss those old cars, I just miss my Dad. 😀

[@BatMan-oe2gh]

As a Holden man, I will say the XY GTHO 351C is the Holy Grail of Aussie Muscle Cars. Ian, that XY would have been doing closer to 140 mph, and would be rev limited to 7500 rpms. But you talk about handling. My 2001 SS Ute has Independent Front/Rear Suspension, Factory Lowered and goes around corners really well. Aussies have always thought about Suspension due to the crappy roads we had up till the late 90's. Still quite a few around today to be honest. Cheers

[@godamid4889]

Holden man here as well. Have to agree, an absolute beast and the stuff of legend.

[@Deltan1967]

If only Holden had manufactured the XU-2 though...

[@BatMan-oe2gh]

@@Deltan1967 Nah, the GTR body was too small to really handle the power. When they went to the LH body style, that was more suitable. I know people have put the 5ltr into the GTR body, but they have spent a lot to make it usable. Holden did the sums, and cheaper to make the new Torana LH the way it was. And I preferred the LH to the LJ. Cheers

[@harrywalker5836]

top speed was over 160,std factory,, holdens had to run ford diffs.. or wouldnt make it 1 lap of bathurst..holdens allways cheated & had to win. ever taken a decent look at a chev 350, how its designed,?. garbage engine.. funny how the yanks gave us the 351, as it was a truck engine & no good for racing, but,,we made it go,,beat them at the drags,, then, they wanted it back.. brock was an as hole. because they couldnt beat the sierras, he drove one with no ford badges,,so it wasnt a ford.. fukn wanker..

[@corvanphoenix]

Yeah we'd take Yank muscle but never their suspension. Understeer is safe? No thanks.

[@adampurcell7119]

The bonnet protrusion is called a shaker. If you can find it I recommend 1972 Bathurst between Pete Geoghegan in the XY and Allan Moffat in the Mustang . The best race ever

[@robertleeimages]

Moffat was in an XY in 71 & 72, and in an XW in 69 & 70 and after 72 its was XA, XB gs500 & of course the XC Cobra 1-2 in 77

[@adampurcell7119]

@@robertleeimages that is correct..for the Hardie Ferodo. But obviously you don't know or remember that the ATCC held 2 events at Bathurst back in the day 1 being the Easter race . The one of which I speak. Moffat was in his Coca-Cola Mustang

[@robertleeimages]

@@adampurcell7119 Yes i do know that, but you need to specify so people know what to search for because most would only search 1971 Bathurst instead of PG v AM Bathurst

[@adampurcell7119]

@@robertleeimages normally yes but not when it's the "Geoghegan Moffat in xy Mustang " race

[@ianmurray246]

1972 is year the race you take of.

[@bootn13]

Great video as usual from the honorary Aussie 🙃. It's just a pity we have to talk about Aussie car manufacturers in the past tense.

[@johnmathisen1167]

265 six against 351 v8 also think it’s most powerful there. Wondering what cars came 1st and 2 nd ?

[@notthisguyagain4635]

Was thinking the same thing, that 265 is no match for the 351 especially down Conrod.

[@kaypotter2867]

That straight 265 be a Hemi?

[@johnd8892]

@@kaypotter2867 yes the Chrysler 265 Hemi. In ultimate E49 form with triple Weber carbs it made 302 HP off the showroom floor.

[@davelynn3958]

1971 XY GT 351 was the fastest production car for its time and yes a nimble beast for its size and that 351 so much usable power, large torque curve and doesnt quit the old days of bathurst where the most exciting before emission control standards crippled our production standards

[@alexanderSydneyOz]

To be fair, newer motors make more power and torque, despite the emissions rules. The likes of R/T Chargers, GTHO Falcons and A9X Toranas faded away due to concerns about cheap 'family' cars being available for street use, which could reach 150mph.

[@harrywalker5836]

fastest 4 DOOR, car. not fastest car ever produced.. top speed, 160 mph.. detroit locker. top loader.

[@davelynn3958]

@@harrywalker5836 I didn't say ever I said " at time of production ,fact

[@davelynn3958]

@@harrywalker5836 at time of production agaim was the fastest

[@nolimitsgolf]

Another great video champion. I'm a Holden man through and through but......The Ford XY GTHO is one beautiful piece of machinery that any person can appreciate.

[@corvanphoenix]

I'm a Ford man who's driven a sh*tload of Commodores too. That's if I'm forced to choose. Truth be told I've loved all Aussie muscle for a long time XD

[@odelayrowemonkey2145]

I've owned six or seven of these in my younger years .. XW's and XY's. two V8s.. used to absolutely love watching the shaker scoop go with the revs... oh the memories... although that was only twenty odd years ago..

[@elizabethscott7660]

The old 70's Fords are still the best. XY, an XA and an XB coupe, LTD. Why did I sell them? 😕

[@frenzalrhomb6919]

@@elizabethscott7660 - You didn't live in a Granny flat out in Liverpool, in Sydney,in the 1970s, did you? Nothing wired or troubling, just wondering. A Woman of the same name lived with me, my sister, and Mum and Dad at the same time, is all, my sister and myself can't seem to be able to find her anywhere, just thought I'd ask ... It's a long shot, I know, but we'll worth taking.

[@robfaith6029]

imagine how much they would be worth now

[@gregstephens361]

Remember when a lumpy cam V8 would rumble up the street ,motoring had character back then , keeping the dream alive i now drive a V8 diesel landcruiser

[@peterfenton6388]

The mountain is a lot tamer now than it was back in the day. “The Dipper”was real where your car would be on the right hand wheels only but being a public road the Bathurst Council has filled it in over the years. Conrod straight was dead straight from Forrest elbow down to Murrys Corner. There was 3 hills coming down Conrod where the car would get extremely light and a good breeze would push you across to the other side of the road. Then you would come into Murrys Corner trying to turn left with your brakes on fire and engine over reving while shifting down. No such thing as ABS or stability control back then.

[@harrywalker5836]

&, holdens allways had to win. regardless if they were 4 laps behind. so how come holdens used ford 9" diffs, legally, .?.. 4 degree camber on toranas, as they cant turn corners other wise. drop tanks to hide the diff. bartlett unable to run discs.. v8 front ends on 6 cylinder cars.. ect. ect. it was rigged.. &, the repco rally, all holdens had trucks, following them,& fully re built cars every leg.. if holden put a badge on polished shit,, holden nuts would buy it.. ie. holden cruze. korean flat pack.. last bathurst was 1989.. holdens went to europe, came back with tails between there legs. how embarrasing, brock drove a ford sierra,,with no ford badges.. fkn hypocryt,ass hole.. chev 350, biggest fkt up engine you can buy..

[@johncoops6897]

@@harrywalker5836 - there is SO MUCH bullsheet in that comment that it's no even worth responding to each point that you got wrong.

[@arkhsm]

@@harrywalker5836 That's what I love to hear; a FORD LOVIN, HOLDEN HATE'N man.....Exellent !!

[@astrofire68]

Conrod straight had a rise in the centre. If you didn’t back off slightly there was a good chance you’d over rev and blow the rear end. Those were the days. 🤓👍

[@deldridg]

Back when men were men and cars were made with spanners, not assembled with chopsticks (as I saw on the back of an HQ ute many years ago) and driven by algorithms. Perhaps not very PC but probably a bit true... ;-)

[@Matt_Wilson01]

That downhill section is a lot steeper than it looks on camera, those guys are insane

[@lokai7914]

It's a brilliant and scary track that I had the good fortune to drive a couple of decades back.

[@jefftheaussie2225]

There is no doubt about how steep the dipper is, you can make your tyres howl at 60km/h which is the speed limit on the track normally. It is public road the rest of the time.

[@mikldude9376]

Great to watch the oldies slicing around the track ,and having all the different models adds some unpredictability to the racing .

[@johnd8892]

When Conrod was all a straight I understand most cars needed to back off before the last bumps on the straight so as not to be launched into the air too much.

[@Terrestrial..1]

They had to put the kink near the end of the straight to slow them down because drivers were being killed at that corner when their breaks failed.

[@DRWho1959]

@@Terrestrial..1 because Mike Burgmann hit the bridge and was killed during the 1986 race, so for 1987 the chase was added

[@twitwitch7310]

Yes ..Conrod straight was shortened to meet the requirements of the length a straight could be,,as per the category of track...

[@hudsonsled454]

The 4 speed top loaders had the clevo's singing down conrod 🇦🇺 I'm guessing this was Group N touring cars..

[@theghost6412]

It's a funny thing between the Valiant 265 inline 6 against the Ford 351 V8. The 6 was faster in the 1/4 mile, but stood no chance against the V8 in the 1/2 mile. Which is why the poor Valiant was amazing up the mountain, but on the long straights it was easy to overtake so they had to drive defensively. Same as the tiny Mini Coopers, they would go flat chat up the mountain and zooming between all other cars screaming, but lose ground on the straights. Had to drive smart and skillfully to win Bathurst

[@ChrisAbbott]

I had a ex Sydney police pursuit charger 4.3 litre 265. It was a rocket but the back end was way too light.

[@theghost6412]

@@ChrisAbbott couldn't tell you how often I got old boys and even old girls walk up to me in all my old Valiant and tell me how their parents or theirselves had to put bricks or bags of sand in the boot to weight it down because they were all so light.

[@ChrisAbbott]

@@theghost6412 spot on. I had a couple of bags of cement in the boot. One over each wheel. Definitely helped except after a summer storm when the roads were oily and it was like being on a dirt bike 🤣

[@josecabrera7352]

I had an ex nsw bacon charger k10 spec. I loved that car, all R/T suspension and driveline except for the single carb intake and E37 spec camshaft. The handling was awesome and surprisingly you could chuck it around like a rally car in the dirt. The 265 chargers saw some success in the tighter NZ circuits but yeah, like you said about ‘‘em against the 351s on the 1/2 mile, the 265 couldn’t outrun ‘‘em on the bigger straights, especially conrod. I really miss these cars, they were fun to own back in the 90s when there were still heaps of good parts.

[@harrywalker5836]

holdens didnt,,they cheated, for decades..at least ford used ford parts,, not holden parts.. hint..

[@Kawasaki1-m4l]

Holden 3.3 L GTR XU1 Have beaten the mighty 351 at Bathurst the Ford slips & slides like a banana.

[@elysian95]

The phase 3 GTHO was a monster back in the day.

[@kymcha]

It was but for an endurance race like Bathurst, the lighter Toranas would just play the waiting game until the brakes on the behemoth 'HOs gave up and that was that.

[@kevo6190]

Love that. This weapon was built with the mountain in mind!🤘🤘🔥🤘🎉😁

[@thatfelladownunder9396]

If you watch it again, the Charger takes off at the start too, you could almost see the GTHO guy go, there’s my rabbit. Lol

[@chrisrumble2665]

BTW The tiny little yellow car at the start was an Austin A30. Peter Brock's first serious race car was one of these with a Holden engine. It was fast a journalist tested it to discover its secrets and pronounced it undrivable! It was his success with the A30 that led Harry Firth to sign him for the HDT and the rest is history.

[@artistjoh]

My first awareness of a car was a light blue A30 that my father bought new in the 1950's. He was a race driver (not at Bathurst). His race car was a souped up 1935 Ford 5 window coupe with flathead V8. I remember some big accidents he was in including one in which he rolled three times end over end and ended up on his roof. This was in the early 60's. I remember getting to that corner and calling out to him and he was hanging upside down in his harness and he must have heard me yelling as he turned his head toward me with the biggest grin that was like "look what daddy can do." I remember the crowd cheering as the emergency crew extracted him and he stood up and waved.

[@harrywalker5836]

the rest is history,, yup, holdens cheated every race to win.. fact..

[@leso204]

MINI COOPER ...

[@kwakagreg]

My first car was an A30, (grey) incredibly roomy inside for its size, Mechanical rear brakes OHV 750cc of raw power. I rebuilt the engine and fitted twin strombergs and twin racing stripes on the sunvisor (:-) ) and racing harness on the front seats.. Beat a Morris Major on the old Great white way at Newcastle....had to adjust the tappets roughly every month,,,,had intended fitting a B series MG motor but inherited my Dad's FE instead

[@soeshaybrah]

The scoop is called a "Shaker"

[@jughtful]

the XY Falcon GTHO phase 3 was the fastest sedan in the world at the time but the Valiant Charger could match it over the 1/4 mile with a inline 6 very cool !!!!

[@rowanpaterson4420]

The vh hemi pacer was actually quicker over 1/4 mile than the xygtho at the time ..making it the fastest four door production car at that time f.y.i

[@theghost6412]

Fastest in Australia only, and it held the fastest aussie 4 door sedan, and only for that year. There were cars that would blow it away cold, that were made that same year in other countries.

[@kylietasker50]

Charger was only a 6 pack never raced the v8 at Bathurst

[@theghost6412]

@@kylietasker50 I take it you mean to say that the charger never raced with a V8 in them at Bathurst. And that's because the Supercar Scandle happened right as they shifted from the 6 cylinder E49 to the V8 E55. The poor 340 V8 never got the love it should of. If it went further they would of put a 6 pack on that too like the American 340's.

[@gregstephens361]

@@rowanpaterson4420 The fastest 4 door car thing relates to top speed not 1/4 mile ,

[@seansweeney145]

Just to let you know, the Ford XY GT was in its day, the fastest 4 door production car in the world ... don't believe me, go check it.

[@LukeNankervis]

Well said..exactly 😀👍

[@shaneferris6742]

It reigned supreme in Australia until Holden brought out the 'Walkinshaw' commodore in 88.

[@LukeNankervis]

Yep that'll be the nice VL..AU all the way :)

[@ManKidRides]

Search the history of charger racing in Aus and NZ. Here in Aus they were leading the last Bathurst they competed in, went into the pits to change tyres and refuel, the pit crew threw the wheel nuts aside to replace with fresh ones, but couldn't get them onto the studs which had expanded with heat. Scavenging for the old thrown aside nuts cost them too much time and they lost their lead and failed to finish 1st and maybe even in top 3? (Someone can correct me). So they failed to gain legendary status here in Aus. In NZ however... Allan Moffat took his Phase 3 GTHO with air filter mounted "Shaker" scoop, to NZ for their series figuring that the 265 Hemi straight six Chargers might have a weight advantage and be able to corner faster, but his 351 Cleveland V8 Falcon could take them in the straights. He was wrong and he pulled out of the series after 1 or 2 races and went home to Aus with his tail between his legs. Hence the Crysler Charger achieved legendary status in NZ.

[@arkhsm]

Most NZ tracks were smaller, with shorter straights !!

[@ManKidRides]

@@arkhsm Still Moffat was confident his GTHO would conquer them on the straights but didn't. Also that doesn't explain the Chargers being faster in Aus as well. The Hemi engines were beasts!

[@arkhsm]

Can you imagine the aero advantage the Charger has compared to a fordor BRICK though !!

[@ManKidRides]

@@arkhsm run em as you brung em 🤣

[@gregstephens361]

@@ManKidRides Stock of the factory floor The GTHO,s were quicker than the RT,s, no contest ,,except maybe 1/4 mile but after that no contest ,personal experience tells me this , the RT,s were bloody quick ,but not quiet quick enough

[@legopepsi]

The elevation of this great track has to be seen to be truely appreciated!

[@johnwebster5983]

Seen? Yes, best driven on site.

[@kymcha]

@@johnwebster5983 Absolutely driven. Most average cars would be in 2nd gear going up Mountain Straight and coming into the dipper, one instinctively brakes because the road just disappears under the front of the car and you think f*ck there has been a wash out and there is no road.

[@chaddmascall762]

Do a motivation 36 video for quades life

[@tonysfossickingadventure.8124]

the GT's went hard the problem was getting them to stop. even the earlier models were fun, with no power steering they were great to drive, you could feel the road.

[@chrisrumble2665]

Dunno about that. In the one XY GT I've driven, when you gave it a bootfull the steering went awfully light!

[@lindenwatson846]

Best Falcon ever made, I had an XY panel van, the shaggin wagon lol

[@johnwelson7024]

@@chrisrumble2665 Agree drove a few GTHO replicas and was not impressed by it much. owned a few Lc Toranas and LH . handle way better.

[@greyhound3561]

@@johnwelson7024 I too owned a Holden Torana - Lc GTR, low miles and in showroom condition, I left it standard and just worked on the brakes and suspension, it was a wickedly quick car I loved, scared a few mates with it`s handling in the wet too !!

[@johnwelson7024]

@@greyhound3561 Haha yea mine was a GTR too. plus had 3 4 door LC/LJ too

[@ciprianovieira7539]

Its always great to see and hear the old bangers on the mountain. That was awesome

[@falcon0351]

Ian glad you enjoy this track!us Aussies all feel the same about Mt Panorama.we have all been there multiple times.amazing track👍cheers mate!!👏🏻

[@lex1945]

That downshift.. man.. the sound.. Gives me the chills everytime i hear it! And almost tears in my eyes, LOL!

[@Master_Roshi420]

Hey wrocker quick note: I’d have to imagine the setup on the cars for Conrod straight, before the added the chase, would have slightly different gearing to allow some more top end. Love the content as always

[@daniellebcooper7160]

Over the years, theve also flattened out the 'Humps', which on the last one, some cars would get their wheels off the track.

[@stansolley5634]

The old saying race em Sunday sell em Monday stock with roll bars

[@DRWho1959]

@@daniellebcooper7160 Kingsley Hibbard disabled the rev limiter on his Harrop engineered Super Falcon clone,and set the record of 182mph - before becoming airborne at one of the humps. Engine overrevved and detonated, but he has that record.

[@daniellebcooper7160]

@@DRWho1959 theres no mention of this 'record' in the write up in australian muscle car magazine issue 101. The only mention of the top speed was by Barry Nelson who stated..'from what i can gather, this(182 mph) was the fastest car down conrod straight to that point'. It happened during practice, and their was reports that geoghgan went faster during the race while he was dicing with moffat. According to australian mucsle car issue 12 ,Moffat was recorded at173 and geoghegan 185.

[@mikldude9376]

Love the old GT`s from the XR right to the end , i had an Fairmont 289 warmed up a bit ( i loved that car) , but XY always where my favourite , in that era we had some truly awesome cars , even in non race spec models , those old XY GT`s even in just 3 speed autos where fantastic highway cruisers , Ian you would have loved some of the Monaro`s too mate just for driving on the road ( and of course the chryslers :) ) , some of my fav`s apart from the fords , the HK monaro 327 , HG monaro 350 , HQ monaro 350 . back in those days , wind up windows and power steering where options or was for luxo barges :). I like the character of the old cars , and this sort of non clinical racing rocks . .

[@gregstephens361]

Remember the old Monaros had no pillar at the back of the front window,every time mine ever got to about 100mph the top of the window would pop out and flap wildly , never broke it but bloody scarey when it happens with the noise and all

[@sprendergast351]

You were bang on, my driver's side wiper used to start lifting off the screen at over 120mph. And the top loader you had to belt them through the gears just like that. Ian if you ever get the opportunity to take a GT Falcon for a drive, just do it. Regards Steve.

[@bigoz1977]

Awesome bit of machinery 👏 got my ticket for the Supercars opener at Sydney Motorsport park next month. Supposed to have the Gen 3 cars there for the fans to see. Should be cool 🤞🏻😊

[@Kawasaki1-m4l]

Brock Holden 1st & 2nd Holden & Peter Perfect Brock King of the Mountain...RIP

[@justin3131ify]

Also he is doing speeds closer to 300kmh but mostly 280 or 290 kmh. Just a quick fyi on the handling of the falcon, the "HO" in XY GT-HO actually stands for handling option. While GT stands for Grand tourer.

[@johnd8892]

Was originally HO for High Output internally at Ford but changed it to Handling Options so as not to upset the Government and media too much. Only minor or no handling upgrades to the XY GT but lots of high output power upgrades. Did not state the power for the same reasons.

[@davewolfe8033]

Bathurst lost me when it stopped fielding production cars. There are only two kinds of cars now; muscle cars and safety cars... both are boring. :)

[@michaelreis7010]

Remember Ian the GT is a 351 CBI V8 compared to the Charger 265 CBI Straight six . (Cubic inch)

[@ryan_r849]

The old cars are cool... Like Touring Car Masters, these older car classes are mainly driven by 'gentleman' drivers, and there's a number of unofficial agreements between drivers not to race too hard so as to avoid crashing rare cars. Conrod straight, (Bathurst in general) it's the only track in Aus where we run an over-drive top gear, otherwise the thing will bounce off the rev limiter. Choosing gear ratios for Bathurst is a real art.

[@robfaith6029]

Yep our series One RX7 IPRA car with a 13 B injected with a five speed Holinger gearbox we used a 3.9 ratio and we topped out at almost 290 klm down Conrod at 8300 revs

[@paulbrennan3091]

OK Ian ,U knew What the yellow one was ,( the Charger ) Was it a three Speed or 4 Speeder ?,But Seeing U R American ,Question to U is What was the Blue one in front & along Side the Charger ? U Should Know What it is if U R a Car man ? It was a 1957 Customline again built by Ford,Canadian ! But imported here ,The mainline was the Utility but built in Australia ! My Dad had 2 & got my licence in 1 . Not Bad for that old Classic in front of that Mopar ( Charger ) The Chargers were good though, Especially the 4( Speeders ) But Still no match for the 1971 GT HO Falcon ! In Fact very few things were ? As matter of Interest When the E 49 Chargers Came over the Rise on top of the Mountain at Bathurst,on full Song the Front Tyres were Shaking their head & tipping towing through the Tulips,because very little weight was on the front Wheels ! Very very Scary at that Place in Bathurst ! I know because,I Seen it So many times,as I went to Races at Bathurst ,Camped at the Mnt,many many years in a Row ! Thanks mate ,Lovely to See those old Legends,brings back So many memories ,So good ,they never fade ! Cheers from Aus !

[@glennkiller3195]

The GTHO used to hit 140-145mph on Conrod Straight in 1971

[@michaelcrane2475]

In fact one of the magazine adverts for the XY GT was a photo of the spedo wound to 140mph with the familiar vista of conrod straight seen through the windscreen.

[@glennkiller3195]

@@michaelcrane2475 That Famous Picture of taken over the Shoulder of the Driver of a Phase 3 was actually on the Hume Highway in Victoria. The Reporters from Wheels Magazine picked the Car up from Ford HQ in Broadmeadows.

[@michaelcrane2475]

@@glennkiller3195 Oh cool. That makes the photo I took of the speedo in our rented Datsun 120Y doing 140kph on the Hume Highway even more funny than we thought when we took it in 1992. then.

[@xr88yu]

@@michaelcrane2475 Go the datto 120Y

[@ianworcester4640]

The yellow Charger only 265ci 6cyl Hemi , against 351 V8 GT Falcon . Maybe Try a Duster / Dodge dart / charger small block 340 ci

[@wetcat833]

My first car was an XY falcon and so were the next 4. I would drive one to the ground and transfer the good parts to my next car. By the time I had my 5th one, it was running a 289 out of a Mustang, a Fairlane front and a GT interior. By this time it was practically a show car and would smoke most contenders at the lights. The parts on these cars were so interchangeable that my last gearbox was out of an EL falcon which was 18 years younger. Unfortunately, Fords were hit with the ugly stick in the 80's so I swapped camps and today I drive a 2005 Monaro.

[@matthewhaywood7411]

Bet you wish you kept that falcon though. Personally the au is pinnacle of all cars

[@wetcat833]

@@matthewhaywood7411 Wish I had all of them. Unfortunately my brother wrecked it while I was in Europe. Also had a XM 2 door with a 302 and a ZD with a 351. The good old days.

[@okanui]

I to changed to Holden after the ugly stick arrived. The XC was the last for me, the XD onwards were boxes and fugly. They played around with engines for a while too. They didnt come back again until the EA and by that time the the VT-VZ commodore was way ahead. I had the VX Monaro then got a hold of a VZ CV8 Monaro, unfortunately a tourist wrecked it in a head on. It was my dream car. Then went to the VX GTO and then a 6.2 club sport. Cant beat a V8 so will have to look after the holden I have!! aint ever going electric.

[@wetcat833]

@@okanui The basic AU Falcon has to be one of the ugliest cars ever. It looked like one of those crazy fish they pull out of the deepest ocean. For extra cash, you can get the XR version with the guppy fish eyes. What were they thinking?

[@ngbsolo138]

My first car, bought for $400 was a hillman imp, and I saw one in this race! These days it is BMW M cars for me.

[@jasonclarke4128]

You’re off ya head if you don’t know an XY anything. GT GTHO is anything but a boat. Beaten by six cylinder Torana. Look up Peter Brock Bathurst 1979. Won by six laps to second place. fastest lap on last lap.to prove a point.

[@Longshlongmong]

Awesome video, I watch it every time I see it, I myself own an XY Gt with a healthy 351 and 4 speed top loader. Sound alone puts a smile on my face every time

[@Kim_Kardashcam]

Bathurst at its best. The good old days ❤🚗 zoom zoom

[@LTD347]

When you say ”is that a charger?” Yep it sure was

[@neilshepherd1904]

The shaker is kind of like motorcycle ram-air intakes. The Charger put up the best 'fight' here I think. I remember seeing a Mini racing a Mustang at Eastern Creek (Sydney Motorsport Park). Their lap times were surprisingly close overall - lap after lap, the Mustang pulled away on the straight, and the Mini caught it all back up in the twisties at the back part of the circuit.

[@corvanphoenix]

Bro we hate US "suspension" from this era. To be fair, it was terrible. Ours wasn't epic but it was always noticably better than US stuff & was frequently good.

[@knightsberryipad4152]

Hey Ian great video. these races are the greatest and I feel these days racing has lost some of it soul and it will be interesting as time goes on where will they be when electric comes along. These cars just roar and just love the spirt you have on these videos. Living in West Australia we see these cars go by our front gate in the weekends alot and it is so nice that they are still be used for enjoyment and not sit in garages. Love your laughter, work and smiles. Keep it going Bro.🏎🏎🏍👍

[@ericdodge5092]

Great video but very crappy commentary, If we could get silence during the video that would greatly improve the program. Eric.

[@shaedbyus]

Fun Fact 4: Over the years the track and street names have changed and no longer match up. Mountain Straight now includes Griffin's bend and the short straight up to the cutting. Brock's Skyline, which we think of as the old Skyline Straight, actually starts at the beginning of The Cutting and includes the rest of the old Scenic Road right up until the start of Conrod Straight. Conrod Straight includes the Chase, so it now has 4 curves instead of 1.

[@gordonrichardson9393]

watch a movie called "Running On Empty " :)

[@brianpatmore8418]

140 MPH down Conrod, sometimes 10 to 15 MPH depending. Matt is in the same league as the best drivers in the USA. The Charger E49 in New Zealand raced by an old guy called Leonard was unbeatable against all the big names from Australia. They went over there and all they could see was his tailpipes in the distance. A friend of mine from the Chrysler Car Club said they were shown a film of Mr Leonard's car being prepared. It was unbelievable. They hoisted the car up and the suspension just would not sag one bit !! The Charger has tortion bar suspension in the front as I remember. Leonard could take any GTHO and that is for sure !

[@damienrapa4067]

Hi mate cool to take a trip down memory lane? You should check out the e49 charger!! If my memory is right it (E49) rolled off production floor and was faster than the Hoey???

[@boatbeard7767]

My first car was a XW, my second a XY. My third was a XA auto with many of the considerable number of 'phase'' options available at the time ticked, traction lock diff, full Girlock brake package, factory auto shift valving, etc. The handling improvements from the XW to the XA cannot be over emphasised. The way my and other XW/XY cars I have driven can step out and bite you hard when you push them to their limits compared to the XA,B,C series cars is astonishing. Literally every year the Oz manufacturers were building substantially faster and quicker cars from the year before - the political hysteria over the Phase 4 was enough to effectively panic politicians into legislating these fully race spec cars off the road... The brake pads on my XA were immense, easily three times bigger again than the stock brakes of the time - I used to have to get the pads and shoes re-manufactured as they were not kept on the shelf in my local Ford dealer. Best brakes I've ever had on a car though - as you want in a car capable of easily getting up to 215km/h when I had it... Amazing, if brutal cars to drive that quickly sort out the gifted drivers from the rest of us, when fully sorted out they are the type of car that rewards the good driver well but man they can spit you into the undergrowth so fast if you stuff it up. I was lucky to drive a couple of fast cars back when they were still a car the regular bloke could own. Pretty safe to say that the car we are watching in this vid is faster, with better brakes and definitely a much better engine (in terms of reliability) than the original.

[@RoddSmith-d5q]

I used to own a pretty quick, manual XA. I agree they're a lot more forgiving on the limit than XR-XY...

[@bigfella6629]

Was no big feat really...every other car was either a small 4 or 6cyl, wouldn't be surprised if the Charger was a 6 also....lol

[@frankie8762]

Absolutely loved it , my favourite engine I had though out life, good old Cleveland

[@corvanphoenix]

I'm a Windsor fan too :)

[@normankeoghan5298]

280 km hr on Conrod straight , and it is called a Phase 3 GTHO Shaker . The shaker is the air scoop out of the hood. Hope this helps.

[@andrewsmith8729]

Wow!. That brings back memories and would have to have been in the early 1970s. It looked like he passed a couple of old Hillman Hunters,, a Cortina, Mini, and a 1970ish model Ford Falcon, just after he got the Charger. That said, they never stood much of a chance up against a worked 351 motor. The GTHO would be worth the best part of a million dollars today.

[@harrywalker5836]

theres a white gtho for sale for over 1 mill.. funny how the yanks gave us the cleveland, then bought it back. it was a truck engine, not a race engine, thats why they kept the windsor. a 351 w, internals are bigger than cleveland. could of been upgraded if not for fuel,epa, greenies.. killing big blocks.. best engine, even today, ford 460. cheap easy power. pistons, decent cam, job done..

[@justin3131ify]

Sure this did come from Robbie on discord...... I suggested this along with about half a dozen other videos all of which I took the time to link in a comment I made on your video a few months back... You replied and thanked me at the time! But hey "shrugs shoulders" I'm just happy to be here for the show. This is going to be good.

[@travelingman6511]

The first GT-HO variant produced 300 bhp (224 kW; 304 PS) due to a larger carburetor, and changes to the camshaft and intake. Changes also were made to the suspension, including stiffer shock absorbers and springs and larger-diameter roll bars. Despite the changes made, at the 1969 Hardie-Ferodo 500 poor tyre performance meant that drivers had to pit regularly over the opposition. However, a privately entered XW GT-HO of Bruce McPhee and Barry Mulholland claimed second outright. In 1970, the Cleveland V8 engine replaced the previous Windsor engines, the 351 cubic-inch Cleveland engine was first used in a small batch of Phase 1 specification XW GT's, these are retrospectively referred to as "Phase 1.5s". Ford modified the engine in the Phase II, with a larger carburetor (700cfm) over the Cleveland's original 600 cfm version. Allan Moffat claimed his first Bathurst win at the hands of a Phase II at the 1970 Hardie-Ferodo 500, with Bruce McPhee second, giving Ford Works Team a 1 - 2 finish. The Ford Motor Company Falcon XY GT is a sports sedan based on the Ford Falcon XY. Released in 1970 by Ford Australia, with the GTHO Phase III released in 1971. Some 1,557 units were produced from September 1970 to December 1971 with 300 GTHO Phase IIIs produced from May 1971 to November 1971. It was the fourth in the initial series of the Ford Falcon GT. A limited number were exported to South Africa, wearing Fairmont GT badging. The Fairmont GT model is starting to increase in value as Falcon GTs become harder to find and buyers beginning to see the Fairmont as a genuine GT. With the rev limiter disabled it is capable of 252 kilometres per hour (157 mph) and can exceed 7,000rpm (at high risk of engine failure) in fourth gear. The rev limiter is set to 6,150rpm. The engine type was a 351 Cleveland (carried over from the XW GT/GT-HO Phase II). While Ford stated an output of 300 horsepower, the engine was reputed to produce over 350 horsepower.

[@308253427]

Informative comment. 👍

[@aussieausdeutschland4245]

Funny thing was,in 69 Moffs Falcon had no tyre problems because he was used to the type of tyres worn on the works car and also he was a smoother driver. The South African Fairmont GTs were not built in Australia but assembled in South Africa from CKD parts sent over, much like Cortinas, Escorts and Capri's were exported from the UK in flat pack CKD and assembled in Sydney's Homebush assembly plant which is approximately where the Sydney 2000 Olympics stadium now stands. And SA XW/XY Fairmont GTs were stamped MS33 as opposed to JG33 for the Falcon GT.

[@travelingman6511]

@@308253427 thankyou :)

[@DRWho1959]

@@aussieausdeutschland4245 he would have won if not for that extra pit stop

[@aussieausdeutschland4245]

@@DRWho1959 yep that's correct

[@ryanwells6805]

Just wanna ask if you haven't seen the song by the seekers I am Australian highly recommend 👌

[@bruizey7319]

being a historic race, the cars would be in similar spec to when they raced in the day - pretty close to stock.

[@noelwebb6843]

They are actually allowed quite a few changes, for safety & due to parts availability

[@davidivers6261]

I can assure you that engine is nothing close to stock....

[@terrenceseymour]

The nimble part comes from the HO part of the GTHO "Handling Option"

[@andrewwhite1065]

The GTHO phase 3 could in the day do a genuine 140mph. My uncle's mate have 1 of only 200 Bathurst specials produced. I got to ride in it when i was 13 and have never forgotten the exhaust note and the power. The buldge on the hood was called a shaker from memory.

[@jeffposchalk1740]

G'day mate thing flopping around on the hood is bonnet is called a (shaker)

[@jamestom2510]

Yep thats a charger, sadly they didnt have any significant bathurst victories but they were fast even for a 6, they hammered.

[@gottalovethephilippines5417]

One of my favourite Bathurst videos by far

[@PatrickCurrie1]

While I agree the Ford is a great sounding race car, there is a really angry Hillman Imp which has raced at Bathurst. This video is from 2008. kzbin.info/www/bejne/kHPNimaMmb1ohcU

[@anthonysharpe5104]

It’s a Valiant Charger. 6 cylinder hemi engine.

[@aaronhoskin5703]

He just trying to get home for dinner after work and his missis must of told him that his beer is getting warm😁 We've all been there hey???

[@walterdominguez6287]

The blue one is an Australian made Ford Customline.

[@peterbunting4360]

The old Customline was doing OK.

[@ppx4243]

Love the shaker

[@666Wizardsleeve]

I had an XY GTHO Mockup when I was 18. The “cowl” coming out of the bonnet (hood) was called a “shaker”. I used to love watching it move when you accelerated/decelerated. I sold it for $3,500 in 1982. Even though it was a non-genuine mock-up it still had all the gear although it had a 351 Windsor and I think the genuine HO had a Cleveland. Had a 4 speed top loader gear box, 9 inch diff, GTHO steering wheel with the horn control in the surround of the wheel, it was awesome. Those mockups sell for big dollars these days too. If only I had had a crystal ball 😢

[@Staffo1972]

That Charger would sound sweeter LOL

[@joseph317]

That cowl is called a 'shaker'..!

[@petercampbell87]

351ci Cleveland V8 4 speed.

[@jazziecat2550]

lol - love the Aussie keep left unless overtaking vibe :-)

[@reid-qo2sz]

Bathurst!!! What a race !! What a race track !!!! ❤❤❤❤❤

[@rat21011978]

GT HO 3 was Fastest 4 door sedan in the world when released

[@dbrentnall21]

That Yellow Beast, the Charger is sitting in my Dads shed! He had a ball that weekend.

[@johnd8892]

Tell him one of the comments said this all a computer game simulation. LOL

[@dbrentnall21]

I can definitely confirm its real. Cause the Australian historic NC class is loving this video! Lol dad thinks that comments is hilarious.

[@steveblackwell5231]

I live in Bathurst and love this track. Not sure when that race was - but not too long ago by the look of the track. As its a public road I do a lap of the mountain regularly. Its so hard to stick to 60km/h!!! (except on the way back down the mountain). Obviously many don't as there was an article in the local paper recently about the number of people caught speeding down Conrod Straight over the Christmas break!! Enjoy!!

[@Thunderbird6]

The Charger is a 6 cylinder motor

[@mikethomas9544]

One of the greatest race tracks in the world

[@ldnwholesale8552]

It is a shaker. Similar to 69-70 Mustangs Fast car among a lot of older and slower cars. The Charger was the only real opposition and that was slower.

[@doogzford]

The xy gt on conrod was good for around 160mph(260kph)

[@yesterdayschunda1760]

That is indeed a charger, a Valiant Charger

[@thaibulldog6800]

Conroe straight, you know he’s flying as the wiper blades start flapping. That’s pretty quick

[@flash_69]

Aussie Muscle Cars from that era were designed to win races on that track. The XY GTHO Phase III was the best and greatest of them. The shaker scoop is still popular. Best idea ever.

[@jackthomson73]

Hi mate. I don’t know if anyone has said this but GT stood for Grand tourer and HO was Handling Option. Which is why it corners like it’s on rails. Great video 👍

[@partymanau]

The HO badges came from a Ford USA where they stood for High Output. We changed it to Handling Options to placate the insurance companies.

[@rallymaster001]

Ah , this is historic racing at its best, on one of the world's greatest racing tracks! During the week the circuit operates as a public road built on the side of Mt Panorama in Bathurst, NSW but it is closed a few times each year (maximum 5 times) for some classic motor car racing, principally the Bathurst 1000 touring car race (= 621 miles), originally known as the Hardie Ferodo 500 (miles). Bike racing is not held due to the constraints of the track in case of accident. Some course facts include: Circuit Length: 6.213km (3.9 miles) Length of Conrod Straight = 1.916km (1.2 miles) Length of Mountain Straight = 1.111km (0.7 miles) Highest Point: 862m (0.53 miles) above sea level Grades of up to 1 in 6.13 Vertical height range: 174 metres (0.1 mile) from the bottom of the circuit (Pit Straight) to the top of circuit at 'Skyline'. Race direction (during major events): anti-clockwise. Enjoy the racing! Great channel!! Subscribed!

[@dogdooish]

My mail run contract included Mt Pan, as it's affectionately known by the locals, 5 days a week for 7 years, so I've clocked more miles on this track than almost anyone. I've also nearly been wiped out by idiots that think they are Jack Brabham or Max Verstappen! During the week it's a normal road with a normal urban speed limit. The Chrysler has not got the Big V8 that it has in the US :(

[@lizziewillis4831]

As a local, I've never heard it called mt pan. Idk if that was a long time ago or what but now it's The Mount. But I do agree that people forget it's actually a public road. They come out and try for their chance at glory and end up in the advocate as just another twit doing double the speed limit. 🙄