American reacts to 'What Americans dont understand about Public Healthcare'

[@gamingtonight1526]

As a Brit, I lived in America for 7 years, and had to use the American Health Care system. I prefer a broken NHS than what the American system is! I think Britain can change to improve, but Americans will never change, and this is why America is in decline...

[@ManuelSteiner]

Unfortunately I had to deal with the NHS before, I prefer the German or Swiss system. More expensive for the people (not paid via taxes, but you chose the company and plan), and these systems work well. (Many different individual health-care insurers who compete for customers.)

[@theexiledones1]

As I always say, no matter how shit the healthcare system in other countries are, they are still better than whatever the fuck they have in the US.

[@phoenix-xu9xj]

@@ManuelSteiner but it doesn’t work for everyone does it doesn’t work for the poor. Or should I say not so poor.

[@beldin2987]

For sure. I mean germans also hate their system, just like they hate the german trains, but compared to the US its all absolute gold. However i guess constant complaining and showing up the flaws is also important if you don't want it go totally down the drain. Btw.: i was just recently again aware that the problems with the trains in the end started to arise when the Deutsche Bundesbahn was privatized. All was fine as long as it was not in hand of capitalists. It was only "not efficient", but hey .. beeing always on time, or having busses in areas where often nobody even uses them is not effecient. But everybody using i private car is even more ineffecient in the grander scene.

[@Temeraire101]

The NHS works, sort of.

[@kirstenlandon3043]

Californian here! My daughter now lives in the UK and--broken system or not--she's incredibly grateful for the NHS. She's always calling to tell me, "I just went to the doctor and I got a prescription. For nothing!" She's never coming back to the States. The worst part of all this is that most Americans don't know how their own healthcare system works! I hear people complain, "I don't want to pay for someone else's healthcare" because they clearly don't know that's exactly what they're already doing! Nearly half the country only listens to the politicians, and the politicians tell them they'd be paying higher taxes while having super long wait times and they wouldn't be able to pick their doctors--which is just a lie. No one tells them they would get to stop paying premiums and copays. I agree that if we gave the people universal healthcare, and let them see what it would really mean to them, they'd never give it up! Unfortunately, people will never push for it because they're being told it would be far worse than what they face now. Follow the money. This is capitalism on steroids and running amok. The insurance companies pay lobbyists and politicians truckloads of money so that they maintain control. Keeping people ignorant, unhealthy, and angry makes them money. It's sickening!

[@ricardoxavier827]

The main issue of USA is that USA constitution allows states to block the other states from creating a universal free health care system. In EU that blocks dont exist, and some EU members have it more and others have it less, because EU constitution allows members freedom on that. As while USA dont reform their constitution and political system to become a true democracy, with multiparty system by proportional vote representation, abolishing the crime of the winner takes all the seats, nothing will change. USA are a 2 party system dictatorship,, 2 elected wings full controled by the same not elected super rich eagle group, forever perpectuated in power by the winner takes it all, knowing that no political party borns big to win elections to win it all... It doenst matter if you have chronic liberal states, when the others states can actualy block that liberal states to be able to social-economic evolution like we have here in EU. EU institutions has no legal power to define states health care systems. And thats the window all USA citizens should target to allow states independence on health care systems, against the will of chronic republican states.,.,.,..,.,..,

[@Noksus]

It's kind of ridiculous how the American politicians always portray the universal healthcare as having long wait times and everything bad. As if that doesn't imply that they are incapable of making a functioning system. But really as you said, keeping the healthcare system like it is now in America is lining their pockets with more money than they could ever dream of spending. Money is the root of all evil and it has full control over America. No one in America is free, everyone is a slave to money.

[@mariecaillaud8693]

Another issue is the lobbying of big pharma, in europe, drugs price are regulated, as doctor's paiement, because the studies are free, and so on.... It makes the price really

[@khairulhelmihashim2510]

there should be 2 healthcare systems that co-exist and complement each other. the universal public funded and private, and people can opt between these 2 systems that suit their needs.

[@andreasprucha1451]

As an European it's funny to hear that. The NHS has a bit the reputation of beeing one of the worst public healthcare systems b/c it had been ruined by conservatives. But then this very basic system still seems to be better than having no public healthcare (probably b/c running healthcare as purely private system just does not make any sense as usual market-mechanisms just cannot work for healthcare)

[@Sayitlikitiz101]

I am Franco-American and have experienced both the French and the US healthcare and there is no comparison between the two. The French system is much better and gives patients so much more freedom to choose and pick the service and doctors they want. No network BS or pre-approvals like we have them here. And the peace of mind that comes from knowing that you and yours will be cared for in your moment of vulnerability and weakness is priceless. That's freedom.

[@ricardoxavier827]

The main issue of USA is that USA constitution allows states to block the other states from creating a universal free health care system. In EU that blocks dont exist, and some EU members have it more and others have it less, because EU constitution allows members freedom on that. As while USA dont reform their constitution and political system to become a true democracy, with multiparty system by proportional vote representation, abolishing the crime of the winner takes all the seats, nothing will change. USA are a 2 party system dictatorship,, 2 elected wings full controled by the same not elected super rich eagle group, forever perpectuated in power by the winner takes it all, knowing that no political party borns big to win elections to win it all... It doenst matter if you have chronic liberal states, when the others states can actualy block that liberal states to be able to social-economic evolution like we have here in EU. EU institutions has no legal power to define states health care systems. And thats the window all USA citizens should target to allow states independence on health care systems, against the will of chronic republican states.,.,.,..,.,.

[@klamin_original]

I think Americans often don’t realize all the bullshit they need to go through in their system when people tell them that in their public healthcare system almost everything is better than in the US. They’re so used to copays, deductibles, out of pocket whatsoever, preconditions, pre approvals, in network doctors, not being able to see a specialist when they need it and so on that they don’t even imagine other countries not having such weird things. I can only speak for the German system but everything I just mentioned doesn’t exist for medically necessary treatments. there are exceptions for dental treatments where your insurance might just cover 70 oder 80% but even that still covers most of the costs and you can always get affordable additional insurance

[@kirstenlandon3043]

What really drives me crazy is hearing this argument from politicians: “If we let ‘them’ socialize healthcare, you won’t be able to keep your doctor!” This is one way they villainize the idea. My response is usually “Wait…so you got to go to any doctor you wanted?? Gee, that’s rare!” For those who don’t know, we typically have the option of buying an HMO plan or a PPO plan. Without going into a bunch of detail, HMOs require that you pick from a list of doctors that are “in network.” A PPO lets you choose any doctor, though there are usually still certain limits. Also, PPO plans cost significantly more than HMO plans ($800 vs $1200 per month, in my area). So the anger over picking your doctor is another incredibly stupid argument since we don’t get to do that anyway.

[@readyforlol]

Also it’s cheaper to run. That’s the kicker, most americans who oppose it do so under the assumption that it’s too expensive to run to be worth it. But A) it’s not, and B) even if it was more expensive, it would still be worth it.

[@klamin_original]

@@readyforlol But they’re not ready to understand that. Americans who lived abroad begin to understand a lot of things that previously wouldn’t have been able to get into their mind in the US. Their whole upbringing relies so heavily on American ideas that other concepts don’t seem plausible. That’s the vibe I get from a lot of streamers btw, even if they try to understand things they often can’t wrap their head around other ideas and often seem to be overwhelmed by information and give up in the process. Critical thinking doesn’t seem to be part of American education. And I don’t mean that in an offensive way, those streamers are not guilty of anything here, the systems makes them become that way.

[@onenote6619]

What I find weird about the US healthcare outlook is that as soon as the word 'socialised' gets in there, everyone blows up. Like any form of socialism is somehow toxic. But a socialised military defence system is AOK.

[@FutureKnut]

I'm guessing that comes from the 'Red Scare' in the USA after WW2? Americans were culturally taught to be wary of anything left-leaning or communist because of the USA's rivalry with the communist Russian Soviet Union at the time

[@Tjalve70]

The funny thing about American's abhorrence towards anything called "socialized", is that insurance is in its very nature socialized. The purpose of insurance is that everyone (who has it) will bear the cost of the few that needs it. And that's the very concept of socialism. So USA already has a socialized health care system. It's just that they have a voluntary and privatized socialized health care system.

[@carrstone01]

There is no connection between socialism and social programs.

[@Belaziraf]

@@Tjalve70 That's a solidarity system. A social system redistribute equally resources. Solidarity is when everyone contribute to cover for the risks of the weaker and those who need it. US insurances, all sectors accounted, work differently. The fear and hate of socialism stem from WWII and cold war. And also shadowing and control of knowledge. There is no evil system. There are only evil people. To reduce the definition to its most basic form : Public services that benefit everyone or the majority is a social mechanism. Public services that aim or try to prevent people from falling too deep in the society is a solidarity mechanism. Everyone or most people contribute to maintain a minimum of living standard or chances in life. The main problem in the USA is also the lack of unification in the healthcare network and price regulation. Whereas most countries that have universal healthcare see it as basic human right. If you stop companies from making profits, they will stop to innovate. But the American miss that EU and other countries subsidies many big pharmas to research new drugs and treatments. They have more freedom for pricing on new products, and regulate negotiated prices with a deep knowledge of cost and capacity. As an example. In most countries with universal healthcare, the prices are around 200% the manufacture price. Let's take Turkey with $3 a dose of insulin and average $11 elsewhere, even in EU with high taxes on salaries. Based on that, the USA should have a manufacture price below EU price of $5.50 but still sell $99. Guess what "free market" that makes competition lower the prices for the customers' benefit all around the world, is turned into while "free market" is paired with "unregulated market".

[@ianmontgomery7534]

and they don't realise that any insurance they have is a socialised system.

[@philbaker4155]

I paid into NHS. all my life... over the last 3 years I've has two strokes. I'm so glad of the nurses and doctors that were there to help me its the best thing that happened in Great Britain

[@mademoiselledusfonctionell1609]

I am sorry about your strokes, but I am happy for you that you had the NHS.

[@philbaker4155]

@@mademoiselledusfonctionell1609 thankyou feeling better everyday xxx

[@neilbarton7216]

I am extremely grateful for the pacemaker in my chest that keeps me alive courtesy of the NHS

[@mademoiselledusfonctionell1609]

@@neilbarton7216 My dad went through two open heart surgeries, and a hip replacement. Among other things. In Sweden, we pay a bit (20-50 pounds) for a visit to the doctor, and about 15 pounds (it might have changed) per night at the hospital, but the bulk of the health care is tax funded. (Those who do not need pacemakers (which he also had one, my dad) or invasive surgeries or other demanding treatments can hopefully feel that they received their good health as a gift from the universe.)

[@ryttyr14]

I'm Swedish and I've NEVER heard of someone wanting to be fit to not be a burden on society. All I've ever heard is people who want to be fit because they feel better, both physically and/or about themselves, when they are fit.

[@ricardoxavier827]

The main issue of USA is that USA constitution allows states to block the other states from creating a universal free health care system. In EU that blocks dont exist, and some EU members have it more and others have it less, because EU constitution allows members freedom on that. As while USA dont reform their constitution and political system to become a true democracy, with multiparty system by proportional vote representation, abolishing the crime of the winner takes all the seats, nothing will change. USA are a 2 party system dictatorship,, 2 elected wings full controled by the same not elected super rich eagle group, forever perpectuated in power by the winner takes it all, knowing that no political party borns big to win elections to win it all... It doenst matter if you have chronic liberal states, when the others states can actualy block that liberal states to be able to social-economic evolution like we have here in EU. EU institutions has no legal power to define states health care systems. And thats the window all USA citizens should target to allow states independence on health care systems, against the will of chronic republican states.,.,..,.,.,.

[@HolgerNestmann]

I am german. When I was injured of my own fault, I felt bad for all the care I was given

[@thecommenternobodycaresabout]

@@HolgerNestmann Man, you are a German through and through. Good for you, to be honest. This mindset makes you to be more careful for all the right reasons. Keep being that way and I hope everyone else follows your example.

[@HolgerNestmann]

@@thecommenternobodycaresabout Thanks - to be honest, I just wanted to give context same way ryttyr14 did. Hope this didnt come across as the meme, where germans invade the comments section.

[@ryttyr14]

@@HolgerNestmann Not at all. I found it interesting to see your perspective. Also, you can just call me ryttyr :)

[@kareno6986]

I can only speak about NHS Scotland but I have nothing but praise for it. My father had terminal lung cancer and my mother had a rare tumour removed from her heart in her mid 70’s. They both received excellent care and my mum is still with us 10 years later. We only pay a small % of our wages towards the NHS and I believe it’s a lot cheaper than what US citizens need to pay for health insurance.

[@ricardoxavier827]

The main issue of USA is that USA constitution allows states to block the other states from creating a universal free health care system. In EU that blocks dont exist, and some EU members have it more and others have it less, because EU constitution allows members freedom on that. As while USA dont reform their constitution and political system to become a true democracy, with multiparty system by proportional vote representation, abolishing the crime of the winner takes all the seats, nothing will change. USA are a 2 party system dictatorship,, 2 elected wings full controled by the same not elected super rich eagle group, forever perpectuated in power by the winner takes it all, knowing that no political party borns big to win elections to win it all... It doenst matter if you have chronic liberal states, when the others states can actualy block that liberal states to be able to social-economic evolution like we have here in EU. EU institutions has no legal power to define states health care systems. And thats the window all USA citizens should target to allow states independence on health care systems, against the will of chronic republican states..,.,.,.,..,.

[@OP-1000]

COMMUNISM! 🤪

[@bookllama8158]

I also think it's important to differentiate between the people working in the system and the system itself. Many hardworking doctors and nurses in the NHS. The idea itself is great, too. Compared to many other Western European countries however, the NHS is often not able to provide the most modern standard of care. It is underfunded and plagued by staff shortages. Although the latter is a problem in many other countries, too.

[@julianbarber4708]

Totally agree!..I live in Scotland, and the care that was taken of my late partner, by the Scottish NHS was incredible. Numerous middle-of-the-night ambulance call outs, plus various hospital stays. I have nothing but praise for them.

[@alfiekelly5914]

As a Scot myself, I have nothing but love and gratitude for our NHS staff. My wife is one of them. She's a district nurse and works tirelessly. If it wasn't for the NHS, I'd have been bankrupt many years ago. I'm so grateful that my medication (life saving) costs me nothing. Of course I pay via tax, but I never need to worry about how to pay for healthcare.

[@warrenpeterson6065]

I'm a Canadian who recently developed several rare diseases/disorders. I have only utilized our medical system for minor issues in the past so this adventure is new to me. To date I've had 1 ea MRI, 2 ea CT Scans, 2 ea Nuclear Medicine scans, 2 ea Ultra-Sound tests, 1 ea ECG, 1ea EKG, 1 ea EMG, and the list goes on and on to include full monthly blood work up testing. I have been tested by specialists including ENT, Internal Medicine, and Neurology. Never have I received a bill or will I. I firmly believe I would be bankrupt if I was an American.

[@philipberthiaume2314]

In 2017, an American relative got legitimately angry when he learned that his healthcare premiums were as much as what I paid in income taxes in Canada. Canadian healthcare is paid from income taxes as is every other service we have. He could not wrap his head around the fact that we weren't paying premiums. It made him angry, he accused me of withholding information and I've never seen him since. To make matters worse, that was the year hi mother's insurance company turned her down for important medical treatment.

[@thespanishinquisition4078]

Well fun fact. By GDP, USA wastes more on healthcare than any EU country. Even the best most expensive EU healthcare systems are still cheaper than the insurance system in USA. Just saying...

[@simonhenry7867]

About 11% of the money is used to count how much money it costs. 30% is used to sue people to bankruptcy. The insane counterpoint is 13-8% of the populace is uninsured. You could sack the lawyers and just use the money to give everyone healthcare.

[@baronmeduse]

Canadian healthcare is not paid for from taxes. It is paid for from newly-issued public spending by a sovereign currency issuer. Taxation is not funding it is the redemption of already-spent currency..

[@alanpotter8680]

Get on a plane, go to any EU country, even without an insurance, do your treatment, pay, buy souvenirs and come back home. It'll still be a lot cheaper.

[@philipberthiaume2314]

@@alanpotter8680 well Americans used to drive into Canada by the thousands every year to buy pharma drugs. Florida and the US federal government, under Trump, now let ppl buy from Canada in bulk. It's the same medication but some made in Canada at a tenth of the cost. The US is truly a capitalist nation even at the expense of ppl's livelihood.

[@taranvainas]

Spain here. Our country is considered among the happiest in the world among other things because here no one is afraid of not being able to pay medical bills when illness or a serious accident occurs or if you get pregnant. Our healthcare is universal and free, even for illegal immigrants, regardless of the costs of treatment or its duration over time. In fact, it is common in our country to bring serious cases to our hospitals from anywhere in the world if there is no treatment in their countries or if it is excessively expensive for their families. We also lead the world in organ donation. Because we understand that the most important thing in this world is health and for a truly democratic government this is perhaps the highest priority. Here in Europe we do not understand why the supposedly richest country in the world does not have this crystal clear.

[@diablo.the.cheater]

La razon es porque EEUU no es el pais mas rico del mundo sino el pais con mas ricos en el mundo. Si en una sala tienes 90 mendigos, un billonario(mil millonario) y 9 multimillonarios, de media en esa sala tienes 100 ricos, es una de las salas mas ricas del mundo, pero al mismo tiempo es una sala con un 90% de mendigos. Eso es EEUU, un pais con muchos ricos y ricos que son los mas ricos pero aun mas pobres y superpobres.

[@taranvainas]

@@diablo.the.cheater Estoy muy de acuerdo. USA es un espejismo.

[@BernhardGiner]

German here. I would summarize: any universal healthcare system is better than not having a universal healthcare system. It's way from being perfect here but at least we have something to complain about and to improve.

[@em0_tion]

Yes. I'm not perfect, but at least I exist! 💪😂

[@rosemariebrown2413]

It is good ! get sick in America, and you won't get paid !

[@BernhardGiner]

@@em0_tion You're welcome.

[@em0_tion]

@@BernhardGiner Huh?

[@ganjiblobflankis6581]

If nothing else, it forces the price of private procedures down to something sane. Something non-urgent, but horrible like a hernia might have a waiting time of 18 months, but you could get it fixed in under a week for a few grand private.

[@M3CHR0M4NC3R]

The thing that always amazes me is that mental healthcare is never discussed. A lot of issues in the US are caused by the lack of mental healthcare. Something that is included in most other healthcare systems.

[@sandrathompson1277]

Yes mental health is treated just as physical is treated..I am speaking for Australia

[@M3CHR0M4NC3R]

Treating a symptom without treating the underlying cause is detrimental to a society.

[@kyihko]

@@sandrathompson1277 To me in Germany it feels like it doesn't work that well. If you're privately insured (instead of publicly) you can get a therapy spot much faster, while publicly insured people usually wait 6-12 months, depending on where they live. Our system also doesn't pay everything. So if you want to use a newer/"fancier" type of therapy, you'll have to pay it completely on your own. That's also the case for every type of health issues. I needed braces when I was 12, and could've only gotten the old and cheap ones. But since my parents also had an insurance for my teeth we only had to pay a part of it, which sounds more like it is in the US (at least as far as I know)

[@M3CHR0M4NC3R]

@@kyihko I'm sorry to hear that, it sounds rough.

[@mats7492]

@@kyihko But at least nobody in germany has to die just cause they cant afford treatment.. at least 50.000 americans die every year just because of that.. also medical banrupktcy is a foreign concept in germany.. you WILL get the help you need eventually, even if it might take a while

[@debbiemorgan859]

As a Brit, the problem with our healthcare system isn't in the healthcare, it's with the government who leave it seriously underfunded. The money that we pay into the system is being syphoned off to use for other things. A national poll was run a couple of years ago asking if people would be willing to pay an extra £1 per week to support the NHS and an overwhelming majority said yes, if they could be sure it would be used for that purchase. I was diagnosed with breast cancer and operations and care were exemplary and swift. I could even have had serious reconstruction surgery done for free afterwards if I'd chosen to. The only complaints I have is that trips to A & E take forever, it's at least a three hour wait and mental health care is seriously underfunded. If we could work on even those two things then it would be a great improvement.

[@MeStevely]

I recently spent 15 hours in A&E in Winchester UK. It was busy. The point is I was eventually seen and my problem was dealt with - for free. OK, it took a long time but I know that many people with much more urgent concerns were dealt with before me, but that's OK. And somehow that made me feel good that 15 hours was taken out of my life so that someone else can maybe extend theirs.

[@lindamcgregor4080]

Recently had to go to ED in Perth WA. We waited for 7 hours to see a Dr.

[@jonathanwetherell3609]

Well said Debbie. The biggest problem with the NHS is funding, in real terms it has had budget reductions for 13 years.

[@ricardoxavier827]

The main issue of USA is that USA constitution allows states to block the other states from creating a universal free health care system. In EU that blocks dont exist, and some EU members have it more and others have it less, because EU constitution allows members freedom on that. As while USA dont reform their constitution and political system to become a true democracy, with multiparty system by proportional vote representation, abolishing the crime of the winner takes all the seats, nothing will change. USA are a 2 party system dictatorship,, 2 elected wings full controled by the same not elected super rich eagle group, forever perpectuated in power by the winner takes it all, knowing that no political party borns big to win elections to win it all... It doenst matter if you have chronic liberal states, when the others states can actualy block that liberal states to be able to social-economic evolution like we have here in EU. EU institutions has no legal power to define states health care systems. And thats the window all USA citizens should target to allow states independence on health care systems, against the will of chronic republican states..,.,.,.,.,.,..,

[@andreasprucha1451]

Seems to be the problem in many countries. When government does not have the goal to provide good healthcare but just wants to provide basic healthcare as public healthcare just the keep it cheap it turns into a problem. Basic public healthcare is still better than no public healthcare, abut it's not as good as it could be.

[@jens9702]

Broken or not, the NHS is there for emergencies and critical care and it's amazing!!

[@theworkshopwhisperer.5902]

The NHS is that dependable friend who's fallen on really hard times. Times will change and they're not about to give up.

[@duckseatbread104]

NHS is kinda bad for routine care but for emergencies and critical care it's generally good and a literal lifesaver

[@theworkshopwhisperer.5902]

@@duckseatbread104 Indeed critical care is still functioning generally as normal but to sustain this resources have been diverted away from increasing the long waiting lists for less critical care. This does very quite a lot by region thought.

[@kirstygeorgans9575]

Australian, = had a bad fall in Wales. Went to emergency, X rays, cast on arm - whats your address so i can look you up. (me) i wont be on your system -OK - no problem - no charge (did have a pretty long wait but to be honest it wasnt an emergency )

[@snakeoilaudio]

In America absolutely everything always boils down to: "Yes, but this black single minimum wage mom with her 15 kids then has a bigger advantage than I have, so I am against it". IMO people with this attitude don't deserve a proper healthcare system. I have no problem if they die or go broke or to hell.

[@nicolevandeijck9071]

Heard this argument from an American acquaintance. I'm not paying for someone else. I take care of myself and my family. Thing is, a healthy population is massively more productive and thus benefits all. The reduction in stress, homelessness, all of it is SO worth it. But all they can think of seems to be ME, ME, ME. And yes. they are Trump voters.

[@HellDuke-]

When the UK is used as an example, yet everyone says "but you have to wait long" makes me think "that's not normal" because for any emergency cases you don't need to wait at all. You get admitted and the same day any emergency procedures will get done. Otherwise, I think the US might be a bit too far gone. The current system made outrageous pricing the norm. Initialy the goverment would have to foot the bill or have a plan to force the prices down

[@ManuelSteiner]

There's still a lot wrong with the NHS. I'm German and experienced it a few times. The German system is less socialistic, in structure it is more similar to the USA (many healthcare insurance companies). Higher costs but better.

[@xmascookies97]

I mean in my country we dont have long wait times in emergencies either, at all. But for specialists it might be long, if its not an emergency. The only thing that is difficult in our country is the fkn dentist... Not covered by the government at all if you're an adult, it's 100% your own responsibility, and it's so awful cause genetics will fuck you over big time

[@vijay-c]

​@@ManuelSteinerThe main problem with the NHS is that it's been defunded by the Tories over the last 13 years. As someone with a whole load of chronic illnesses, I've seen the best doctors in the country, and been at the cutting edge of medical technology (including various medicine trials & full genome sequencing). We also had pre implementation genetic screening for haemophilia on the NHS when we were having our child, just four years ago, even in it's defunded state.

[@frankdux5693]

​@@vijay-cthe NHS isn't underfunded. They just world class at wasting money.

[@AngelaThomas-v3j]

Dunno about how your systems operate for example in the US do you have hospitals with no A&E department? We do here as a result of consistent mis-managment of public funding dealt by our non understanding ruling party that live in their own fictional "lala land". Personally I'm in the camp of cut everything off past south of Birmingham as for other EU countries couldn't care less there's plenty of euopeans whom were treated and then fled the country to avoid payments. (Health care debt collector in a former profession).

[@anjal7041]

As. a German I am very happy to live in a society that ensures all can get the healthcare they need. Ok, I pay a lot, but in total it is less compared to what I have to pay getting severely sick. I don't want the money back I paid to the healthcare system. This would mean that I'll be seriously sick. I think it is good that a sick person or even a child or a person without a job never has to worry about money, just to get a better health

[@wandilismus8726]

8% from Brutto ist nicht wirklich viel. Ja es wird mehr je mehr du verdienst, aber es sind nicht mal 10% Du zahlst mehr für Rente oder Steuern. Und kriegst um Verhältnis mehr raus

[@DanielAusMV-op9mi]

​@@wandilismus8726ich bin auch so froh über das was wir hier haben und jeder von uns sollte mithelfen das zu behalten was wir haben und es weiter ausbauen und weitergeben an andere Menschen ❤❤❤❤❤

[@baronmeduse]

Germany's system is just an insurance system, like here in NL. It's privatised and then the insurance companies essentially subsidised. Not everyone gets the care they need.

[@minecraftprovie5076]

@@baronmeduse there is public health care in germany. And ALSO private. Ofc private is more expensive and covers more things. But the public covers all essential needs

[@baronmeduse]

@@minecraftprovie5076 So does 'public' require you take out an insurance policy? Or can you go to a doctor/hospital without having any sort of policy and never see a bill?

[@Bb13190]

I am french, living in France. I have no idea where the nurse assign to new mother for years comes from. This is completely false. If the new mother has health issue that requires a nurse, she will get one, but like the rest of the health issue. And yes we spend a lot, but when you compare what a French spend on health (tax included), it is still a lot less than an American.

[@vijay-c]

He also exaggerated & misrepresented the issues with the NHS - I think deliberately, given the things he got right. It was definitely a video made to push the creator's own agenda. I think the video creator is German, so is pushing the Bismarckian system as "best"

[@ManuelSteiner]

@@vijay-c but you can't deny the NHS is broken. Even some brits here in the comments are saying it is... in healthcare rankings Switzerland and Germany are often among the best

[@windshipping]

Maybe they mix it with some help that is given to hire a nurse, there are those cheque emploi services and stuff like that helping with that. The part about heavy administration is exaggerated as well, the Carte Vitale is actually VERY good at making it simple, few countries have something like this. Now there are tons of things that sucks, like how year after year less medicine are fully reimbursed, but overall it is a good system.

[@lesfreresdelaquote1176]

Also, the budget of the French "Assurance Maladie" is distinct from the state budget. The "Assurance Maladie" is financed by workers as a part of their salary, which is usually equivalent to what Americans pay for their own health insurance. We also pay for a "Mutuel", which is a private insurance company (usually around 1000€ a year) to cover for extra costs such as dental and glasses. The Assurance Maladie is managed through a board that is composed of a mix of union representatives, including the "entrepreneur" union (MEDEF). The cost is about 10% of France GNP compared to 16% in the US. Furthermore, most doctors have a private practice, which is very different from the NHS.

[@windshipping]

@@lesfreresdelaquote1176 Agreed, except for one point. I pay 26 euros per month for health on my salary, the company pays 250. It's the Securite sociale, ie retraite or retirement, that siphons all the revenue lol. So even with the mutuelle American pay much, much more with their 'premium whatever' that doesn't even reimburse until you reached a certain threshold. But they have higher salary in general for higher education. Lower classes have both less income AND higher health insurance cost, I don't know how they survive tbh. Better not be ill.

[@amberfittler]

Had to laugh when you said $10 a pack of cigarettes is expensive. Some places in Australia charge $50 for packets of 20! Not that I smoke or necessarily condone it myself.

[@laurabailey2092]

In BC Canada a 20 package of cigarettes is $20 dollars, could be more now as I quit smoking and I know that BC is raising the cost twice a year and now there is a stirring about banning cigarettes for people born in 2018.

[@DanielAusMV-op9mi]

I mean that's kinda nice, you sure want to smoke less

[@DanielAusMV-op9mi]

​@@laurabailey2092 that's really interesting

[@tysej4]

The Denmark Tobacco tax actually comes out to like... $10-12 USD.

[@wlodek7422]

Damn, in poland its like 4 dollars when you calculate the currency exchange

[@peterl5804]

If Americans believed in competition they’d get rid of their healthcare system straight away. It’s far too expensive for its relatively poor outcomes.

[@hidayah840]

I'm half european (father) and half asian (mother). Lived in both continents and was raised with both cultures. While it's very true and much more embraced in asian culture to have this "one society mindset" where one thinks and feels for eachother and how one impacts it, it'd be extreme to say that europe is the opposite of it. While there is historical research on the topic, that western europeans are more "self centred" (can't think of the english words) I'd say it's 50-50 like yes we "don't care what others think or do" but also yes "I should think about my effect on other peoples life, careers as a whole, environment especially and other factors". Very hard to explain but at least in germany, we still have that kind of acknowledging of responsibility and personal sacrifice, thank God.

[@emrk6517]

This is explained in Hofstede’s cultural dimensions, specifically individualism versus collectivism. I was going to say something to this effect. I'm Finnish/European. I'd say we are individualistic (the fancier word for selfish), but also aware that we are all a part of a collective too. To use stereotypical language I'd say Asians care most about the collective, Europeans are in the middle, their bounce between the individual and the group, while the in the US it's about the individual and people aren't often even aware of the complex ways they have responsibilities as a citizen of a country, or how they as an individual could also benefit from a more collectivist society.

[@ricardoxavier827]

The main issue of USA is that USA constitution allows states to block the other states from creating a universal free health care system. In EU that blocks dont exist, and some EU members have it more and others have it less, because EU constitution allows members freedom on that. As while USA dont reform their constitution and political system to become a true democracy, with multiparty system by proportional vote representation, abolishing the crime of the winner takes all the seats, nothing will change. USA are a 2 party system dictatorship,, 2 elected wings full controled by the same not elected super rich eagle group, forever perpectuated in power by the winner takes it all, knowing that no political party borns big to win elections to win it all... It doenst matter if you have chronic liberal states, when the others states can actualy block that liberal states to be able to social-economic evolution like we have here in EU. EU institutions has no legal power to define states health care systems. And thats the window all USA citizens should target to allow states independence on health care systems, against the will of chronic republican states.,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,.,.

[@ReisskIaue]

"Self-centered" = individualistic.

[@katjasaha8396]

My father had cancer and his medication, which was the newest at the time, would have cost thousands but was now free thanks to our free health care system. Greetings from Finland

[@Auvas_Damask]

Hello Finland 🇩🇪👋

[@kevak1236]

My FIL (in UK) had multiple cancers. Lymphoma, lung cancer AND bowel cancer. Three operations, chemotherapy, spent several weeks in hospital and even gene therapy. Cost to him, taxi rides to the hospital and back home, that's it. The NHS is not great at relatively minor ailments, waiting lists can be years for a hip replacement so the US system is much better for these, but, hugely expensive. However, for critical, urgent care the NHS is normally very good. You can still opt to pay private, a hip replacement would cost around £10k (about $12k) in a UK private hospital, for example

[@mariembalo3076]

What the video does not say: France spends 12.3% of its GDP on health. The US spends 17.8% of its GDP on health and for what result? Americans live on average 76 years, French 83 years. Yes, the French health system is expensive but as the state reimburses health costs, it imposes regulated tariffs on hospitals, doctors and pharmaceutical manufacturers. In the end, health costs are cheaper for French than for Americans and they are better cared for regardless of their income.

[@keremcantarhan]

On the topic of Japanese healthcare, I learned a few things while living there that were quite shocking. First of all, there are no pharmacies in the same way that we do in most other places I've been to. Went I went to a dentist and was prescribed medicine, I was expecting to be sent to a pharmacy. Instead, the assistant to the doctor brought out the medicine I was given, calculated how many pills I would need, cut out that many from the box and handed them over to me, keeping the rest. This was absolutely mind-blowing but also makes so much sense, reducing improper usage as well as waste. They also have mandatory health checks where people are graded based on how healthy they are. It's not perfect, there are issues with it but you can imagine how such a system would encourage people to be more healthy on a national scale.

[@DanielAusMV-op9mi]

That sounds nice ❤❤❤

[@trelala789]

But what about over the counter medicines like basic pain killers (ibuprofen/paracetamol). Those are basically only reason I ever go to the pharmacy. Would need to get them from OBGYN? (all my pain is related to my cycle) Or are you just describing prescriptions, but pharmacies still exist?

[@stephaniecheong1815]

​@@trelala789You can buy them easily from the many huge pharmacies they have there.

[@spookyspirits4462]

Are pharmacists working in those places then? Pharmacists save a lot of lives here as they are essentially specialists in medication and dosage - so a doctor will know which medication to prescribe but a pharmacist will be better at knowing the safe dosages, and drug interactions. So I just wonder how that works there. It is not very uncommon for pharmacists to contest prescriptions due to unsafe dosages or combinations.

[@spookyspirits4462]

​@@trelala789I believe basic painkillers are also given at the doctor's as I've heard that people will go for a checkup for even minor issues like the start of a cough or something, but I'm not sure.

[@reneemckinnon5731]

I nearly died when you said that $10 USD is expensive for a pack of cigarettes, here in Australia the smallest packs you can get is 20 - 25 cigarettes for $35-$40+ AUD, depending on the brand and the price goes up at least once a year 😂

[@duncancallum]

Twice a year renee and booze goes up twice a year too.

[@GC-sf7kx]

Its easy would you prefer to pay an extra $25 a month in tax or $800 a month for health insurance that doesnt cover everything. It aint rocket science.

[@kaelgiotto5206]

I prefer to pay the same 800$ in tax, but I won’t need to pay extra thousands in hospital

[@VanillaCoke1956]

I mean, I pay about 150 every month in taxes but I'll gladly pay those 150 to have the peace of mind that: - I can go to the doctor whenever I want. - Get sick leave without any repercussions. None of that stupid "sick days" bs where you have a limited amount of days that you'll continue to get paid by your employer. - Can go to the ER, get admitted immediately if it's a serious thing and not pay a single dime. People always harp on about "but what if I don't get sick? Then that money is just lost!" but have no idea how GOOD it is, mentally, to know you don't have to worry about shit happening.

[@ManuelSteiner]

The German and Swiss systems are more similar to the US one than the UK one. We have many health-insurance companies, who compete for customers. You pay a yearly premium, and sometimes a bit extra for some procedures. It's much more expensive than the UK, but quality is also high (as seen in rankings).

[@speedy7040]

@@VanillaCoke1956 " but what if I don't get sick" ... wow .. are americans morons ? How do they give birth ? How do they vaccinate ? .. and do they never get OLD ?...

[@baylessnow]

Not rocket surgery or brain science but, the yanks seem to think that they will have to pay extra taxes ANNNND still pay for their astronimical healthcare insurance! DOH...

[@ksenss2513]

I don't think europeans "stop smoking because they think it is better for society" but they are open to government regulations "taxes on cigartettes, sugar or banning things" because they can see it will be good for society, even if they will be impacted, too. There are very vocal groups protesting, but any poll will show the majority are for it.

[@ricardoxavier827]

The main issue of USA is that USA constitution allows states to block the other states from creating a universal free health care system. In EU that blocks dont exist, and some EU members have it more and others have it less, because EU constitution allows members freedom on that. As while USA dont reform their constitution and political system to become a true democracy, with multiparty system by proportional vote representation, abolishing the crime of the winner takes all the seats, nothing will change. USA are a 2 party system dictatorship,, 2 elected wings full controled by the same not elected super rich eagle group, forever perpectuated in power by the winner takes it all, knowing that no political party borns big to win elections to win it all... It doenst matter if you have chronic liberal states, when the others states can actualy block that liberal states to be able to social-economic evolution like we have here in EU. EU institutions has no legal power to define states health care systems. And thats the window all USA citizens should target to allow states independence on health care systems, against the will of chronic republican states.,.,.,..,.,..,.,.,

[@valsyaranamual6853]

Australia has gone "over the top" though.

[@Noksus]

​@@valsyaranamual6853 Australia is not in Europe.

[@hawk992]

​@@NoksusHe meant Austria, perhaps 😂

[@kencraig8715]

I grew up in Scotland and had a couple of NHS hospital visits during my childhood which were completely covered by the system. I moved to the US about thirty years ago and had to go to hospital a couple of times for Kidney Stones and despite having health insurance ended up having to pay about $5k out of pocket each time. In the UK most people who are ill will go to a Doctor without thinking about it, while in the US many people I meet are extremely reluctant to go to the ER when they are seriously injured due to the fear of the costs of treatment. The NHS has been decimated by successive Governments and is not perfect by any means, but it does provide a true, effective, basic safety net for EVERYONE which is a moral and appropriate thing for both Governments and individuals to support in my opinion. I MUCH prefer the limited NHS system in the UK, to the unfair and exorbitantly expensive US health insurance system.

[@ricardoxavier827]

The main issue of USA is that USA constitution allows states to block the other states from creating a universal free health care system. In EU that blocks dont exist, and some EU members have it more and others have it less, because EU constitution allows members freedom on that. As while USA dont reform their constitution and political system to become a true democracy, with multiparty system by proportional vote representation, abolishing the crime of the winner takes all the seats, nothing will change. USA are a 2 party system dictatorship,, 2 elected wings full controled by the same not elected super rich eagle group, forever perpectuated in power by the winner takes it all, knowing that no political party borns big to win elections to win it all... It doenst matter if you have chronic liberal states, when the others states can actualy block that liberal states to be able to social-economic evolution like we have here in EU. EU institutions has no legal power to define states health care systems. And thats the window all USA citizens should target to allow states independence on health care systems, against the will of chronic republican states.,.,.,..,

[@danmayberry1185]

Nearly 1 in 4 Americans have had unpaid medical bills this year .. 41% face medical debt .. whichever survey applies, add to it that US per capita health spending is (by far) the highest in the world. Someone is profiting from the misfortune of their fellow citizens. Not knocking capitalism, but there's a limit.

[@TheLunaKeat]

You should react to SUS, the brazilian plublic health care system. Is a country similar in size and population to USA, and is one of the best ones in the world. Not perfect like everything specially in large countries, but they even accept people from other countries and give free medicine if you need to. There is also programs for people that can't move peasily or that live inareas with difficult access.

[@deankeith830]

7 years ago i went to my GP with a small lump on my neck ... I was told that it was most likely a harmless cyst which would sort itself out but keep an eye on it ... but while i was there i asked her to take a look at my leg because i believed i had a pulled /torn muscle ... 5 minutes later I was shipped off to the Hospital for a scan and diagnosed with a deep vein thrombosis given an injection plus some single use injections to give myself twice a day for the next month then given an appointment 2 days later with the anti coagulant dept where i was tested and given a dosage of warfarin then after a fortnight saw a specialist and again after 3 and 6 months ... tge speed with which it rolled into action was amazing and otentially saved my life ... no bill

[@a.z.983]

Years ago I moved to Austria from one former Yugoslavia´s country and was initially upset about how much of my income went to taxes and insurance. A large portion of this insurance money is spent on treating drug addicts, wich was especially anoying for me to pay for. But after a while I realized that this was an investment in my safety. None of them had to steal or commit crimes to get by, so I was less likely to have unpleasant encounters with them. Another thing I noticed is how well Austria´s retirees live (most of them). If you want to eat the best food or drink the best wine in Austria, just ask retirees for directions. When I see how happy and carefree they live, I see that the investment is worth it, so it's easier for me to part with my taxes.

[@DanielAusMV-op9mi]

Literally every one is an addict ❤❤❤ Don't be so hard on them, you might become one too or your relatives, you don't choose if you're a drug addict, it chooses you. Kind regards from Germany ❤❤❤

[@a.z.983]

@@DanielAusMV-op9mi Thanks, but I don't think you read the whole thing... I used to be annoyed about paying for things like this, but since I saw the big picture, I'm okay with it. I talked about drug addiction, I understand that it is a problem for many, but not for me. Still we all have problems, and mine were of a different kind therefore my priorities are different too :D Best regards from Austria

[@diablo.the.cheater]

Yep you understto it well, when society is healthy people are more healthy and there is less crime. Healthcare is just one of those things that makes sense, it is like the police, nobody wants the police but the police is necessary.

[@anouksb]

@@DanielAusMV-op9mi drug addiction is almost never the primary problem, it is trauma and mental health issues. Drugs are used as coping mechanisms when there is no proper health care system available. To prevent drug addiction you need a good health care system...

[@alanmusicman3385]

@@diablo.the.cheater My min immediately goes to a line in a UK Police drama. Experienced police office to new-starter: "Let me make it simple for you. 5% of society is rubbish - and is always going to be rubbish. The main part of OUR job is to make sure that 5% don't ruin the lives of the rest. Simple as that."

[@Korfax124]

Personally I think that Europeans have a mix between Asian Collectivism and American Individualism. We consider our choices and their impact on others, but we also assert ourselves (at least younger people do) toward others in terms of personal boundaries and choices. It's difficult to explain since I haven't tried before, but if you ever come to Europe (Denmark in my case) you can try to observe it yourself :)

[@Korfax124]

@@crae_s Granted, I haven't been to an east Asian country (yet), so I'm trying to use, what I've been told is, the American image of the term to make my point. Interesting to hear from a Chinese perspective. I wouldn't say that Northern Europeans are socialist in the political term, but rather in a cultural term.

[@majamaya4295]

​@@Korfax124vielleicht mal den Unterschied betrachten zwischen sozial und sozialistisch , wird oft in einen Topf geworfen 🙂 ist aber nicht ein und das selbe. VG

[@emrk6517]

It's all explained in Hofstede’s cultural dimensions (individual vs collective etc.) It's interesting stuff, anyone can look it up.

[@ricardoxavier827]

The main issue of USA is that USA constitution allows states to block the other states from creating a universal free health care system. In EU that blocks dont exist, and some EU members have it more and others have it less, because EU constitution allows members freedom on that. As while USA dont reform their constitution and political system to become a true democracy, with multiparty system by proportional vote representation, abolishing the crime of the winner takes all the seats, nothing will change. USA are a 2 party system dictatorship,, 2 elected wings full controled by the same not elected super rich eagle group, forever perpectuated in power by the winner takes it all, knowing that no political party borns big to win elections to win it all... It doenst matter if you have chronic liberal states, when the others states can actualy block that liberal states to be able to social-economic evolution like we have here in EU. EU institutions has no legal power to define states health care systems. And thats the window all USA citizens should target to allow states independence on health care systems, against the will of chronic republican states..,.,..,.,.,.

[@squidcaps4308]

Europe is liberal but also communal. Individual freedoms and liberties are very important but we are still individuals who are living in a society, not alone. Liberty, equality and solidarity.

[@hardyboy1959]

Canadian here. When Tommy Douglas introduced public healthcare, the doctors went on 23 day strike in an attempt to force the government to drop it.

[@johnkemp8904]

I well remember a KZbin video some time ago where an intransigent elderly US woman said of our NHS ‘If it’s free it can’t be worth having’ to which my reaction was that IF it were free that would be true (how would you run a health service for free, for God’s sake?) but as it isn’t then I hope she would change her mind, though I find that very doubtful. In addition, despite the USA! USA! USA! patriotism endemic over there, there seems to be no country in the world more anti-American that those inhabitants of that country whose mantra is ‘You get sick and I pay? Not on my dime!’ I have seen US contributions to social media saying basically that if you have worked hard as a good American and ensured that your stocks are performing well then you will have no problem with medical bills.

[@ACF42069]

It blows my mind that Americans are paying Healthcare premiums of 1000 dollars a month and we are paying around 100euros a year (my plan is 24 euros every 3 months)

[@ManuelSteiner]

What country? I don't believe it's Germany... in Germany it's 158 per month minimum, and around 350 on average (per month). In Switzerland it's around 400 on average. But both systems are among the top 5 in the world...

[@ACF42069]

@@ManuelSteiner I am from Belgium but it depends from person to person how much you actually pay

[@Northerner-NotADoctor]

And how much is deducted from your wage directly for the healthcare purpouse?

[@ACF42069]

@@Northerner-NotADoctor I can check I dont know the exact amount

[@ACF42069]

@@Northerner-NotADoctor We pay almost the most taxes in the world in Belgium so it will be a good amount

[@millamiqote8827]

I've never considered being healthy for society in my country (Sweden), no. But the idea to be healthy for yourself and/or your loved ones is something that's everywhere🤔, in media, when you talk to friends. To be healthy, to do sports, eat healthy is considered a good thing in general and is something you should want to do.

[@EllaSilentDragon]

Taxbased systems make those that have much money pay more. Everyone has to pay, but only as much as they are able to pay. And the rich have to pay more. It’s better than charging people more than they earn to get lifesaving medicine, just to avoid a little bit of taxes. (The more people are in the insurance system, the more power they have. That means they can force the medical companies to charge less. In the end it’s cheaper for most to just pay the taxes/public health insurance.)

[@ricardoxavier827]

The main issue of USA is that USA constitution allows states to block the other states from creating a universal free health care system. In EU that blocks dont exist, and some EU members have it more and others have it less, because EU constitution allows members freedom on that. As while USA dont reform their constitution and political system to become a true democracy, with multiparty system by proportional vote representation, abolishing the crime of the winner takes all the seats, nothing will change. USA are a 2 party system dictatorship,, 2 elected wings full controled by the same not elected super rich eagle group, forever perpectuated in power by the winner takes it all, knowing that no political party borns big to win elections to win it all... It doenst matter if you have chronic liberal states, when the others states can actualy block that liberal states to be able to social-economic evolution like we have here in EU. EU institutions has no legal power to define states health care systems. And thats the window all USA citizens should target to allow states independence on health care systems, against the will of chronic republican states.,.,.,..,.,

[@Labben91]

So you steal from the rich just because they are rich.

[@WheelyHeidi]

That would be true but they don’t because the insurance company doesn’t make the purchase so has no buying power. The hospitals make the purchase and as they are small purchasers have to pay more. An example given a few years ago (your last election) was that if a hospital in the US needs to buy hips they will only need to buy a few and will pay for the basic ones for $5000 each. When the NHS purchase hips, they buy 100,000 and get titanium as they last longer and are cheaper in the long run. Because they are buying more they were just over $1000. Not only cheaper but a better product. Which would you prefer?

[@EllaSilentDragon]

@@WheelyHeidi I live in Germany. And our system is a little different (mandatory health insurance for most people) but the basic results are the same. And it’s the public insurances that negotiate the prices. 😊 I prefer every European solution over the American one. The US Americans pay more but get less out of it. 😳

[@thomascleo]

Sweden here, I dont understand how you could live with that stress it must be to be worried about going to the doctor? I hope you soon get public healtcare,,,,LOVE FROM SWEDEN❤❤❤

[@Facetterdk]

Most Americans do not live with this stress, because they are covered by insurance.

[@SayWhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat]

We in north europe pay 6,98% from our salary every month to health care system. So if your salary is low you pay ~ 60euros per month. So 720 euros per year for people who get minimal wage. And you get free surgeries and so on.

[@mabus4910]

I think Europeans are somewhere in between asia and america. Doing something for yourself is not seen as a bad thing. But, for example, the majority of us think that taxes are a good thing (as long as the money is not wasted), we generally attach importance to keeping our neighbourhood clean and the majority also try not to offend other people with their own behaviour. On the other hand, many people in Europe, for example, have no desire to sacrifice anything just to combat climate change. Health insurance is also a constant topic. People are happy to pay in, but they also expect good services in return and complain when they don't get what they expect. And no, nobody would stop smoking for the love of health care. It's more likely that smoking will decrease thanks to long-term campaigns.

[@BenjaminVestergaard]

Yeah, in Europe we tax the unhealthy stuff to help pay the expenses. There's not much stigma to people living unhealthy, if they can afford it, they've paid the bill already.

[@Stefus87]

Asia is vastly different. Waaay more than Europe, which is already very different from country to country. Saying "asia" as a common thing is borderline ignorant. M80.. over half of the world's population lives in Asia.

[@mabus4910]

@@Stefus87 True. I was thinking China and Japan and I think that is what he was refering to. But yeah, you are absolutely correct.

[@ulrike9978]

Yes, I would also say it's somewhere in between. In the other hand, "don't be a burden in society" seems to be ingrained in me somewhere - since I've become disabled and therefore need regular medical treatments without being able to contribute anymore via income tax, I'm constantly fretting about the cost of it all. And I know the system is set up the way it is, so that people like me have a safety net, but the guilt is still there.

[@ricardoxavier827]

The main issue of USA is that USA constitution allows states to block the other states from creating a universal free health care system. In EU that blocks dont exist, and some EU members have it more and others have it less, because EU constitution allows members freedom on that. As while USA dont reform their constitution and political system to become a true democracy, with multiparty system by proportional vote representation, abolishing the crime of the winner takes all the seats, nothing will change. USA are a 2 party system dictatorship,, 2 elected wings full controled by the same not elected super rich eagle group, forever perpectuated in power by the winner takes it all, knowing that no political party borns big to win elections to win it all... It doenst matter if you have chronic liberal states, when the others states can actualy block that liberal states to be able to social-economic evolution like we have here in EU. EU institutions has no legal power to define states health care systems. And thats the window all USA citizens should target to allow states independence on health care systems, against the will of chronic republican states.,.,.,.,..,.,.,..,.

[@rushinroulette4636]

Dont forget, it is not only the health care premium you wont be paying any more, but also no (or extremely low) co-pay when you need services. In Germany a day in the hospital is EUR 10,00 which would be considered the "co-pay" and it doesnt matter if you are in a regular room or in the ICU hooked up to 20 machines... the EUR 10,00 stays (limited to a maximum of 30 days in a year after which there is no cost). Necessary Medication for an adult is EUR 5,00 per box (zero for children and students) and htere is an annual maximum limit to that as well depending on how much you earn. Hence the European jokes about Breaking bad not being realisticly possible here.

[@alexia2189]

Yes, I get antidepressants prescribed every 3 mo and they are totally free. It helps a lot

[@ricardoxavier827]

The main issue of USA is that USA constitution allows states to block the other states from creating a universal free health care system. In EU that blocks dont exist, and some EU members have it more and others have it less, because EU constitution allows members freedom on that. As while USA dont reform their constitution and political system to become a true democracy, with multiparty system by proportional vote representation, abolishing the crime of the winner takes all the seats, nothing will change. USA are a 2 party system dictatorship,, 2 elected wings full controled by the same not elected super rich eagle group, forever perpectuated in power by the winner takes it all, knowing that no political party borns big to win elections to win it all... It doenst matter if you have chronic liberal states, when the others states can actualy block that liberal states to be able to social-economic evolution like we have here in EU. EU institutions has no legal power to define states health care systems. And thats the window all USA citizens should target to allow states independence on health care systems, against the will of chronic republican states..,.,..,.,.....

[@armiiiist]

Co pay for emergency rides 10 to 15€ I had a heart attack some yrs ago and now have a shitload of pills. I pay 175 eur per year. In US.. i dont even want to know

[@TheBayzent]

Why are you charging people for being in the hospital wtf?

[@Blixthand]

I'm glad you mentioned insurance and raised premiums and such. I've heard several Americans argue that they don't want Public Health Care because they don't want to pay for anyone else's healthcare and those people clearly don't understand how insurance works, unless they've opted for no insurance and hoping they'll never need it, which I guess we can't do in countries with tax funded health care. I mean the most basic explanation of an insurance is many people put a little bit of money in a pile every so often, so that if one person needs a lot of money he can take some from the pile. But with insurance you are also dealing with owners and shareholders looking to make a profit out of your money and there are people making decisions regarding if and how much money you can take from the pile when you need it.

[@mettelindegardnielsen9411]

Also if you need your insurance a lot, often for price for your insurance increase, since you're seen as high risk customer (this is only the case if the state haven't made a law against it)

[@volkhardhenschel1863]

at min 16:22 hi Ryan, you don't understand the system of NHC! It was very well explained by now but if you talk while NHC is well explained and you try to put commercial arguing in it you lost because of wrong understanding.

[@scottmarshall3963]

As I've reminded people from time-to-time, with a national/public/social healthcare system, you may well be contributing to other people's healthcare through your taxes, but they are *also* contributing to *_yours_* through *their* taxes.

[@Insommer]

I dont understand why people say the NHS is terrible or broken, ive lived in England all my life, i have never once had an issue with the NHS, alll my appointments have been prompt, never found myself waiting for a long period of time, even when dealing with non-life threatening issues they have always been dealt with immediately. Different parts of the UK will be different i suspect, i can imagine in London its worse as there are just so much more people there, but nothing stops those people from going outside london and using other hospitals. The NHS is fine, sure it could be better, sure we should pay our nurses and doctors more, but ultimately its a free healthcare system, totally 100% free, it functions fine and is an example of a health care system that is free and functions just fine and will not brankrupt you if you are sick. My father was diagnosed with cancer last year, from initial doctors visit to confirmation was 3 weeks, he was started on chemo with in 5 weeks and was completely cancer free within 6 months, he has nothing but good things to say about the service he had and frankly would be dead now if not for it. Every person in the UK could also opt to use any of the multiple private health care systems we have and often do for cosmetic stuff or non life threatening issues. But on the whole most people still use the NHS, i had private healthcare through my job for a long time and never used it, i just went to my NHS doctor like most people would. Free health care is a right in my opinion and everyone should be entitled to it, sure it's not perfect, (though i personally cannot give an example of why it isn't from my own experience) but it's better than not having a system and potentially losing everything over an illness you have no control over.

[@TheDeldaisy]

Here's the thing that strikes me about the USA. If you DELAY going to a doctor because of the cost, or delay tests, etc. then you get sicker. It turns into something major that needs major healthcare. It can fixed simply if you go to a doctor at the first sign of an illness. It doesn't just save people's lives or something becoming a disability; it saves the healthcare system money.

[@RevPeterTrabaris]

The really scary thing to me is, to get to the point of enacting an NHS-style medical system in the U.S.we would have to first vote and win some kind of statement that agrees that we, as a people, want everyone else to be cared for in the country. That is, in my opinion why we can't get there. American citizens don't see the intrinsic worth or value in all of their fellow citizens. In this country, such a vote would fail.

[@gerdahessel2268]

Attention sarcasm: But they are such nice and friendly people. So much nicer than for example Germans. And they are believing christians, too - love your next as you love yourself - and what not. Sarcasm end.

[@TehPoet]

I know some Americans who don't want a UK style healthcare system because "I don't want to pay for someone elses care" which is incredible, because that's exactly what health insurance is doing...

[@davidhuett3579]

@@TehPoet Half the American population are not too bright! You only need to look at the level of support for Donald Trump to tell you that.

[@HealthyDisrespectforAuthority]

You're forgetting the people that don't want our money grubbing, on the take from big pharma government, to have anything to do with healthcare. We can fire a doctor.. we can't fire the administrative, no medical training regulators.

[@FHB71]

I - as a German - actually wonder whether one can call our system a public healthcare system, since health insurance is mandatory here basically. In the end you "perceive" it as a simple monthly reduction in your income and do not care much about it and when you need it, it's there. It is not a tax that I pay, I pay an insurance company and the money goes into a fund that pays for me and all the other insured people, so that is the social aspect of it. And actually I think it is a great idea.

[@joebleibaum]

That is why healthcare is but a part of the social system, Germany invented back in the day. Must have been a success with so many countries all over the world adopting combined social system of public health care, accident insurance, unempoyment benefits and pension. Thank you, Otto von Bismarck and Emperor Wilhem I.

[@robwhythe793]

I'm English. My (Canadian) wife has been in an NHS hospital for the last three months after an horrendous mistake made by another driver. If we were living here it would be free, but we're going to have to claim the cost off the driver's insurance. So I've been a hospital visitor twice a day for that whole period, and I've seen two things: (1) The care she has received has been exemplary, and she is recovering well. But (2) the hospital is being run on a shoestring, costs cut to the bone, with staff demoralised, equipment failing and not being repaired or replaced. I remember back before the 1970's when the NHS was a fantastic organisation, something people were proud to work for. Now they are taken advantage of by the government, with wage rises well below inflation over decades. Many of the shops and restaurants near the hospital give big discounts to NHS staff - a fantastic gesture by them, but one which shows how everyone recognises they are doing a fantastic job but are not paid enough for it. I am proud of the NHS, very proud. But ashamed that the main public gents' toilet has been roped off, out of action, more times than not over the last three months; that the internet connection through the public wifi system was broken for about 4 days and nobody fixed it, despite it being reported many, many times. (I know, because I reported it myself, and stood over one of the nurses while she tried to persuade them to fix it.) The government (Conservative, for the past 13 years or more) are to blame. I think many of our politicians have a vested interest in making it fail, because they have big investments in private healthcare companies. The people at large love the NHS, and the biggest promise those in favour of Brexit could make, to induce the British people to self-harm, was to give the NHS extra money if they did. Even in its weakened, mismanaged, failing state, we still want it.

[@andrewmcewan8081]

the tory's always run the nhs down when they get into office . then once its struggleing they can use that to introduce american style changes .

[@kravan5063]

The NHS has had more funding then it ever has had. The issue isn't funding, the issue is efficiency and an unsustainable amount of immigration

[@andrewmcewan8081]

@@kravan5063 without the immigration the NHS wouldn't exist

[@robwhythe793]

@@kravan5063 No, immigration is not the issue. But you're right, efficiency is. For instance, I've seen ambulances unable to move a new patient into hospital because there are no beds available - meaning that the ambulance is used as a spare hospital bed for a while, and cannot do the job it is designed for. Equally, I saw my own wife bed-blocking for at least a week simply because they couldn't find anywhere for her for intermediate care and could not discharge her until they knew she would be properly cared for. Immigration is not a problem. Immigrants do jobs that we can't fill any other way. Immigrants pay tax just like you and me. Immigrants have worked hard to get where they are, and are very grateful to be accepted and integrated. I know that for a fact because I am an immigrant to Canada. Immigration is NOT a problem. Please don't believe those who say it is. And be proud of your NHS. I am. I just want it to work properly, rather than being strangled by red tape and lack of resources, as it is at the moment.

[@kravan5063]

@@robwhythe793 I'm sorry but you're just simply incorrect. Our immigration levels have been outpacing our construction rate for houses, expansion of services and so on. You cannot simply sit there and tell me that millions of additional people into a country over a relatively short period of time isn't going to have any effect on its social systems. That is an incredibly illogical thing to say. I feel as if the reason you're saying that is due to a kneejerk reaction because you suspect I'm some troglodyte who is using immigrants as a scape goat. I'm not at all. Immigration brings benefits, but it also has drawbacks. And again, we're talking MASS immigration over DECADES. Some things also can't be solved by simply money. Land space is a good example of that with regards to housing. Mass immigration has had a direct negative effect on the NHS, Canada's system as well as other European countries.

[@lesley9865]

It’s not people paying tax that stops this in America it’s the pharmaceutical industry that lobbies the government to keep a system that makes them ridiculous amounts of money.

[@Rallarberg]

It all boils down to: Do you want to pay to the govt for healthcare, or do you want to pay to privately owned corporations for healthcare? Neither guarantees a _good_ healthcare system, nor do either of them guarantee a _cost efficient_ one. But I trust the government to handle the money reasonably well rather than corporations with one goal: Make all the money.

[@bevhowell7665]

Just home from a day procedure at Melbourne heart hospital, amazing hospital, well looked after the nurses and doctors are really good with bedside care. I payed nothing , so proud of our system Australia

[@JT.Pilgrim]

12:42 it worked. When child advertising stopped things got way better. Then we got internet lol

[@grahvis]

Advertising to children is controlled to avoid pester power, children being persuaded to want something and pressure the parents to buy it.

[@JT.Pilgrim]

@@grahvis yup!

[@colinbirks5403]

U.K.? I've had major spinal surgery, the front removed from my skull (injury.) Knee replacement, Tumor removed from my bladder, and lots of other lesser things. My Wife has received heart surgery 4 times. I've still got a decent bank account thanks, and I was just a common working man, not a millionaire. I'll stay where we are thanks.

[@josewilliams6094]

Wise words from a health care consumer.

[@rebeccapryde5426]

Australian here, and whilst our system is also flawed, I'm so grateful that we can have free healthcare in hospitals if we need it. And we have the pharmaceutical benefits scheme that subsidises many prescription medications, like insulin (pay about $6 for my daughters insulin every few months). Very grateful.

[@YTcolinT]

All the US has to do is tax guns and ammunition to pay for a free health care system.

[@101steel4]

I have nothing but praise for NHS England. Always had excellent service, and I'm alive today because of it.

[@iangt1171]

I totally agree. This idiot Kraut has no idea how good the NHS can be. Okay, there are lots of things which need attention in the NHS, not just England either, but when I needed them to save my life, they were there for me and have been since.

[@mhorworshipper7456]

It is ok, but in comparison with the Spanish one, is not as good

[@101steel4]

@@mhorworshipper7456 I don't live in Spain. English one has always been great for me.

[@mhorworshipper7456]

@@101steel4 i understand.... but I am an spaniard that studied in Liverpool and unfortunately got yo be hospitalized there for ten days... I am just telling you that, yes, UK´s is one of the worse in Europe

[@101steel4]

@@mhorworshipper7456 I'm sorry for your bad experience. But we can only go by our own experiences. In my 50 years living in England (not Liverpool btw) I've never had any negative treatment from the NHS. In fact it's been brilliant, I couldn't ask for better. I know people who have had bad experiences in Spain, but you can't blame the whole system on a few cases.

[@Narangarath]

17:54 On the topic of banning huge bottles (or other massive junk food packages/servings), it really does make sense. It's a completely different thing psychologically to, for example, drink one (2 litre) bottle of Coke than go through 4 (500ml) bottles. Smaller sizes make you go through the whole evaluation of "Am I still thirsty? Do I really want another Coke? Can I even be bothered to get up from the couch?" even if you're not doing it consciously. Also specifically with pop, everyone knows it goes flat pretty quick after you open the bottle, so you might as well drink it all as fast as possible, where smaller bottles really make a difference when you're looking at an over 10% sugar content. Let me repeat, literally 1/10 of regular Coke is sugar! It makes a BIG difference whether you're consuming 50 grams or 200 grams of sugar with your dinner, especially if you're doing it every day.

[@MrDomingo55]

I moved in with my girlfriend decades back and she soon had me sorted out; No coke or other fizzy drinks (except beer), NO junk food, etc. She is a great cook, though. Over the years, I personally stopped adding sugar to my coffee, stopped eating cakes, except in rare cases, etc. Still eat small amounts of dark chocolate, not much sugar there. I certainly do NOT eat heavily processed food and cereals I have for breakfast have NO sugar added but I add a mix of nuts and seeds. My weight has been around 74kg for most of my adult life and now that I do not work its even reduced to around 70Kg. When we visited Spain and France a few years back I was shocked by amount of sugary additions and chocolate chips to a bag of muesli or other types of cereals. One could not easily find something as plain as rolled oats.

[@maddinar6727]

Exactly. And the argument with "I want to bring it to a party" is just not valid. Buy more bottles. The price per litre isn't supposed to change. Just the size of individual portions.

[@Narangarath]

@@maddinar6727 Right, or just get a case of 12/24 cans and bring that to the party, easy peasy. They'll be more convenient after you run out of clean glasses/solo cups anyway. I don't disapprove multi packs, but they _should_ split into reasonable portions.

[@listerofsmegv987pevinaek5]

I paid my taxes for nearly thirty years before I needed help. Two heart attacks, by pass surgery. In the last twenty years, I've been in and out of hospital with bladder cancer. Here, my only worry is how quickly I can get back to normal. Never once did I have to think about a bill. I, the US, I would probably be dead. My wife has also had health problems, brain surgery for a tumour, cancer, the brain surgery alone would of bankrupted us great video.

[@markopolo1271]

As a disabled Englishman who's had quite alotta medical issues throughout my life the NHS might be a little funky but I doubt I'd even be alive today if not for them and if it was a system like the US my mother wouldn't even have been able to pay for my operations

[@magdamundt9483]

I live in Brazil. The largest Universal Health Care System in the world (covers 220 million citizens and non-citizens). It has MANY flaws, but is also the ONLY access to health services the majority of our population has. And it works. Not excellent, not flawless, but... it works!! People have full access to child-mother care, to chronic diseases, to emergency care, to rare diseases help, to specialist doctors, to dental care. Not in an easy way, because demand is astronomic, but still. It may take years until you get the surgery you need - when your complaint is not life-threatening. Since pandemic, it got worse, the demand has completely overwhelmed the attending structure both during and after the crisis of Covid. Why? Due to a negacionist president.That WE fools elected, and are still paying the price for it. But there is no doubt here: UHCS is one of the best reasons to love Brazil. Although... .... I must confess, there is a 0, 01% of a very loud citizens that fiercely disagree.

[@rikulappi9664]

Finland here. Banning large containers of unhealthy stuff - NO! Taxing unhealthy stuff - YES. Buying a volume of an alcohol product in single small containers is never more expensive than buying the same volume as a family pack / big container - YES.

[@JT.Pilgrim]

15:18 thats not actual freedom. Freedom is having a government that to protects you from others “freedom”. In Canada and in Europe we do put a much higher emphasis on community than individualism.

[@kleinerfarmer1]

The good old question of 'were does one's freedom end and another one begin' or is it just 'freedom of the consequences of ur own doing' those peps want?

[@T0MT0Mmmmy]

​@@kleinerfarmer1in US America it seems to be "one's freedom nevers ends, even when it clearly limits other's freedoms".

[@TheBayzent]

In the US your freedom ends where Big Corporations begin. The fact they have no right to stop companies from collecting personal data is astonishing.

[@dianeleitch]

Lived in the States for 31years and had a very good but expensive medical insurance. 2/3rd was paid by my employer, The British Embassy, 1/3rd paid by myself.Total monthly $850. I had 3 separate surgeries while there. The total for all 3 was $230.000. I paid a co-payment of $2000. Treatment was ok, but the Insurance company has you out as soon as possible. No after care, unless you make an appointment yourself, which again more money and co-payment. It is all about the rich getting richer. If you can't afford insurance, well, you're basically up .... creek without a paddle.

[@ricardoxavier827]

The main issue of USA is that USA constitution allows states to block the other states from creating a universal free health care system. In EU that blocks dont exist, and some EU members have it more and others have it less, because EU constitution allows members freedom on that. As while USA dont reform their constitution and political system to become a true democracy, with multiparty system by proportional vote representation, abolishing the crime of the winner takes all the seats, nothing will change. USA are a 2 party system dictatorship,, 2 elected wings full controled by the same not elected super rich eagle group, forever perpectuated in power by the winner takes it all, knowing that no political party borns big to win elections to win it all... It doenst matter if you have chronic liberal states, when the others states can actualy block that liberal states to be able to social-economic evolution like we have here in EU. EU institutions has no legal power to define states health care systems. And thats the window all USA citizens should target to allow states independence on health care systems, against the will of chronic republican states.,.,..,.,.,.

[@DavidFritzIII]

American living in Germany here... As for Kindergarten, in Europe kindergarten is where you go before school ie from 4 months - entry into school... In Germany the costs differ depending on your municipality, where I live for instance it is subsidised and for the highest earners about $400 euro per month (regardless how many children you have) and after 3 years old 100% covered by the government.

[@feha92]

To answer some of your questions: No, I do not think I want to be healthy to lower the cost on society. But I _do_ think stuff like how I want to recycle well to help it, and don't litter (and even pick up other's litter if it is an easy piece that isn't slimy and I can throw it soon enough or have a free bag), etc. The bottle thing sounds stupid. Not because it is a bad idea to limit the intake of unhealthy products. But because the reason one buys such a large bottle would never be because it is your portion-size. It would obviously be because you either wanted the cheapest alternative for months worth of something with a long shelf-life, or needed it for a party. Banning it is entirely unrelated to people's health, because that is not how people use those sizes. Had it however been about banning "supersized" portions of fast food at fast-food restaurants? That could've made _way_ more sense. Unless the intention is clearly to offer a doggybag to take home the rest (like how pizzas are sized for two portions, and you are meant to take home the other half and store it in the fridge for tomorrow morning - when you are hungover).

[@briansmith6791]

To some degree as you want to fit in with societal norms. When all your friends are healthy and active, your afternoon on the couch eating chicken wings and beer, changes to a hike through nature, because that's where everyone is. So, you become a proponent of your own health and hence your countrys' healthcare.

[@amandajburke9976]

When he said kindergarten, he meant pre-school / day care. Also, cigarettes are now about $40 a pack in Australia. Thankfully, most people don’t smoke these days.

[@Outmind01]

If that doesn't make you want to give up smoking, then nothing will.

[@valfar9999]

But vaping is going to get banned and people will smoke again Or turn to the black market

[@ricardoxavier827]

The main issue of USA is that USA constitution allows states to block the other states from creating a universal free health care system. In EU that blocks dont exist, and some EU members have it more and others have it less, because EU constitution allows members freedom on that. As while USA dont reform their constitution and political system to become a true democracy, with multiparty system by proportional vote representation, abolishing the crime of the winner takes all the seats, nothing will change. USA are a 2 party system dictatorship,, 2 elected wings full controled by the same not elected super rich eagle group, forever perpectuated in power by the winner takes it all, knowing that no political party borns big to win elections to win it all... It doenst matter if you have chronic liberal states, when the others states can actualy block that liberal states to be able to social-economic evolution like we have here in EU. EU institutions has no legal power to define states health care systems. And thats the window all USA citizens should target to allow states independence on health care systems, against the will of chronic republican states..,.,.,..,.,.,.,.

[@duncancallum]

25 grams of loose tobacco in Australia cost $50.00 now and goes up twice a year till it will be impossible to afford cigarettes.

[@leisen9679]

And yet, Australia is one of the worst offenders in climate change and that also comes with a huge cost. I think the cost of drought, forest fire and flooding paid by Australians outweighs the cost of smoking-related costs by far. So, basically all governments (not only Australian) use smokers as scape goats, while citizens inhalate car fumes and residues from bush/forest fires. Great job!😅

[@marisavl1]

Like Spanish Doctor (Surgeon), I’m very proud of our Health System free totally o e of the best of the world .

[@udderbird1808]

I'm concerned that if Americans suddenly have the ability to call an ambulance without worrying about the costs, they'll start calling one for every little issue, and the system could collapse within the first month, or so.

[@magnuslundstedt2659]

What he seems to forget is that the american healtcare system also cost tax dollars, and more per capita than any other system. The problem is not that the US people don't want it. It is that the for profit companies who make bank from the system as it work, pay politicians to not change it. Usualy you get the answer if you follow the money.

[@spursgog835]

I never waited or found fault with the top class services I have received from the NHS. There would be rioting in the streets if they tried to abolish it!

[@ricardoxavier827]

The main issue of USA is that USA constitution allows states to block the other states from creating a universal free health care system. In EU that blocks dont exist, and some EU members have it more and others have it less, because EU constitution allows members freedom on that. As while USA dont reform their constitution and political system to become a true democracy, with multiparty system by proportional vote representation, abolishing the crime of the winner takes all the seats, nothing will change. USA are a 2 party system dictatorship,, 2 elected wings full controled by the same not elected super rich eagle group, forever perpectuated in power by the winner takes it all, knowing that no political party borns big to win elections to win it all... It doenst matter if you have chronic liberal states, when the others states can actualy block that liberal states to be able to social-economic evolution like we have here in EU. EU institutions has no legal power to define states health care systems. And thats the window all USA citizens should target to allow states independence on health care systems, against the will of chronic republican states..,.,..,.,.,.

[@PepsiMaGs]

Arrived home from the hospital yesterday. Got half of my thyroid gland removed and it is now checked for “abnormal cells”. I had the procedure on Thursday, was hospitalized until Friday and sent home with paracetamol as pain killers. All I had to pay (yes, I pay my taxes happily) was the painkillers, appr. USD4. I live in Denmark and am so happy I do. The reason it’s a good idea to remove the jumbo size sodas from the stores is that you might be more prone to buy the larger one because of convenience, price etc. And then you of course drink it all. If your only option is to buy a bottle up to half the size you are not in the same way “tricked” to buy that large amount of unhealthy, sugary soda. Bottom Line: healthier people. Juuust like when you compare menu sizes at eg. McDonalds and look at the public obesity level.

[@Paul-pl6dl]

Here in Australia we pay a medicare levy that is 1.5% that is built in to our tax rate so you don't really see it, it's just taken out of your pay each week I have had three major surgeries in my life 1) Major Dental Surgery 2) Open Heart Surgery 3) And Shoulder Surgery I used the Medicare system the cost was zero and the only one I had to wait for was number 3 because it wasn't life threatning the first 2 I had done straight away

[@Hun7ahVods]

yeah can agree, medicare has come in clutch for me and its levy is not something i think about , from this video i guess that falls under the 'once they have it they wont want to give it back, like social security'

[@Hirotoro4692]

Banning cartoon characters on packaging? Ofc it helps lol i still remember as a kid begging mum to buy stuff because of the packaging appealed to me

[@joannedickie7863]

Plenty of Australians complain about our Medicare system but the bottom line is you will receive immediate free health care for any life threatening or emergency care. There are waiting lists for elective surgery such as hip replacements but we do have the option of paying for private health cover that allows you to utilise the private health system to get much quicker elective care.

[@jeanauguste-f7i]

I had an accident and broke my back on holiday. I was on a French island in the Caribbean. I got free treatment there paid for by the NHS. Simply by showing a card called a GHIC issued in uk (general health insurance card) which I didn't pay a penny for. You can't beat the NHS looking after UK citizens wherever they are.

[@barneylaurance1865]

Was that after brexit? I thought GHIC didn't work for brits since then. Actually I was thinking of EHIC but same question applies sine you were on a French island.

[@jeanauguste-f7i]

@@barneylaurance1865 hi as far as I thought the card did the same it just changed it name from European health insurance card to general health insurance card. They even gave me a hip replacement as they saw how bad it was on the xrays. I was in Martinique.

[@gdok6088]

@@barneylaurance1865 Got my new GHIC card a few months ago. It provides the same cover as EHIC basically.

[@JT.Pilgrim]

There is no comparison between public health systems and private system. From Canada. We have serious issues. But i would tale this system every time no questions asked.

[@fedodosto3162]

Absolutely! I'm also from Canada (Montréal) and our system has a lot of flaws but I can see my doctor, have blood tests, medication, hospital stays, I had cataractes surgery, at not cost to me.(except for taxes but I'm retired so small tax bill) Our system is sometimtes bad but it's GREAT"

[@ALX-xl7fr]

10 dollars for a pack of cigarettes is expensive... in Australia a pack costs $40+ (AUD, about $27+ USD)

[@Gazer75]

How big are those packs? A pack of 20 here in Norway is around 160-170 NOK or around 15 USD.

[@lucylindsay3442]

Pack of 20 m*boro today appears to be £14 in the UK, about $18.

[@Skyl3t0n]

@@Gazer75 Wtf. The standard 20 pack here in Germany is 8 Euros now. It was 5 a couple years ago. BUT 40 AUD??

[@heatherwardell2501]

Yes, around $40 and a lot of poor people still smoke! That's probably why they're poor - poor choices

[@duncancallum]

@@Skyl3t0n Also twice a year there is a special Tax levied against cigarettes, so through time they will be far too dear to smoke, which the Government wants. No complaint from me i thank goodness gave up 19 years ago.

[@Thog25]

The thing is that most of the people I know don't think "I'm paying taxes for other people to go to the hospital" but think "If I ever need to go to the hospital, I'm happy that everyone pays their taxes"

[@boandersen8239]

You should react to some of your comments some time 😉

[@carolfletcher9939]

He's probably worried about the backlash 😂

[@liosscip]

i would dare to say: there are more groups and companies interested that you are sick than there are which are interested you stay healthy in the usa

[@madams2312]

Our national insurance is around 13% of our salary and a percentage goes to fund the NHS, 13% is a lot lower than the cost of medical insurance in the USA

[@101steel4]

And that pays for the state pension to. Something else Americans don't get.

[@madams2312]

@101steel4 wow didn't Americans miss out on that aswell

[@101steel4]

@@madams2312 yes no pension either, that's why you see them still working into their 80s+. Freedom 🙄

[@RobertHoward-k8r]

Next time you drive past the cemetery check out all the healthy residents

[@UtamagUta]

Certified millennial European here. We are (were?) not as much into health stuff but rather looking hot when it comes to body weight. Particularly in Southern Europe where are only 3 modes of life: a) job ; b) beach ; c) gatherings. I remember asking several Spanish people what they do during the Siesta and all answering with "going to the gym". Healthy things suddenly became fashionable when the majority hit mid 3's and we started noticing awkward random pain out of the blue. So this is the sign to start competition with your peers of the new healthy habit you've developed (sleep / ergonomic chair/mattress / hikes / workouts / etc.)

[@oliverfoldager291]

As a danish vegan, it all good bro😂. You make good videos, keep em comming👍

[@mabus4910]

Hey Ryan: It would be interesting to learn something about Indiana actually. It is probably one of the US states I know the least about. Everybody has at least some knowledge about Florida or California, but not Indiana. (at least I think)

[@ricardoxavier827]

The main issue of USA is that USA constitution allows states to block the other states from creating a universal free health care system. In EU that blocks dont exist, and some EU members have it more and others have it less, because EU constitution allows members freedom on that. As while USA dont reform their constitution and political system to become a true democracy, with multiparty system by proportional vote representation, abolishing the crime of the winner takes all the seats, nothing will change. USA are a 2 party system dictatorship,, 2 elected wings full controled by the same not elected super rich eagle group, forever perpectuated in power by the winner takes it all, knowing that no political party borns big to win elections to win it all... It doenst matter if you have chronic liberal states, when the others states can actualy block that liberal states to be able to social-economic evolution like we have here in EU. EU institutions has no legal power to define states health care systems. And thats the window all USA citizens should target to allow states independence on health care systems, against the will of chronic republican states.,.,..,.,.,

[@klarasee806]

Great idea 👍

[@m.f.1132]

you know at least one Thing... Indiana Jones is from Indiana🤓

[@Kris1964]

Europe is somewhere in the middle between asia and the us in terms of individualism and collectivism

[@HenrikSvensson-is4mq]

If public healthcare were implemented in the USA, it would raise taxes, but it would still be cheaper than an average health insurance plan.

[@zymelin21]

yes it would, but you would not have to have insurance plans or some other crap!!

[@griphlet]

(From New Zealand) the bit this video really misses is that a universal healthcare system means the government will set the salaries of all health care workers - American doctors will not accept that!

[@wertyghg5132]

While Americans often place individual freedom above all else and in Asia often place average wealth above all else, Europe has discovered an interesting third possibility: The focus is on the opportunities and prosperity of the individual; you may not have all the freedoms, but you have the opportunity to achieve and expand them, so to speak, the opportunity for the opportunity. Davei will also help you discover new opportunities if you experience failure

[@davidjacobs7465]

I am a simpleton, so I thought it could work if half the taxes of military spending in the US would be redistributed (that would still leave around $400 BILLION anual spending on military). The other $400 BILLION can go to healthcare, schooling, nature... pretty much everything. And I remember a video of some sort stating if this hypothetical scenario were to happen in the US that there STILL would be money left to give back each tax payer while everything was actually sorted out.

[@pattycake427]

Our military budget is why so many countries are able to have a lower military budget. Are you in support for decreasing our presence in allied countries so they have to increase their budgets? It's an interesting conversation, would they still be able to afford these systems?

[@xfranczeskax]

Are you asking whether we are in for a new round of global demilitarization? Heck yeah! On a more serious note: America has strategically built those dependencies. It really is a interesting conversation because gaining back more freedom of America probably would lead to a bad spiral: remilitarization equal less money for social problems equal destabilization in said countries. :/ The US sure was smart. Only at the cost of their own social system. @@pattycake427

[@valsyaranamual6853]

Exactly! NATO and is also the reason Russia attacked Ukraine. After WW2 Russia and US made a pact -Russia to abolish Warsaw Pact-US abolish NATO and not surround Russia with NATO Bases.Guess what,America lied. And Ukraine asked for a NATO Base. Your presence in allied countries is basically an occupation of their country, isn't it?Took UK from 1945 -2006 to pay US for their "help" in WW2.Their "help" only came after Pearl Harbour,refused until they were attacked,same WW1.But scream out for allies to join them when they start wars!

[@barriehull7076]

@@pattycake427 Who in their right mind would want to invade the US anyway.

[@ampersand.]

@@pattycake427 The American military budget is there to enrich US armament corporations - the vast MIC. This is why America`s forever blowing up countries and threatening others.

[@BergenDev]

I had a incident a while back. Needed a ambulance. Ended up with 5 people picking me up, included a doctor from the ER and specialized trauma medics. I had 2 days in the hospital, x-rays and the end bill was $28 bucks because of the doctor that was joining in. They even added 12 cc of Morphine as a bonus before moving me 😂

[@samshort365]

At the end of the day I REALLY DONT CARE what Americans think. At least I don't lose any sleep concerned that my family may face bankruptcy due to health concerns.

[@Centurion101B3C]

Hm, Having lived in the US for 22 years and raising a family there, I'll take the most expensive European Public system over the US one. If I wouldn't have expired myself, I'd be broke, a widower and grieving over my lost children. Now, I am wealthy, retired, married and welcoming a steady arrival of grandchildren....in Europe.

[@jillybrooke29]

I am just retired now but when I was working I paid my taxes and didn't really notice it so that was fine with me and I went to the GP and hospital for free (when we were allowed to see Doctors, since the pandemic). There are long waiting lists for appointments but emergencies are different.

[@Brazauskas123]

I'm a Lithuanian who lived in Germany and England. German health care system seemed like something out of this world. Not even sure how it works, but I was given a card and could use it at basically any doctor I needed to see and didn't pay anything (some of those places were quite fancy too). Where's in England I was happy if I could get seen by anyone. And in Lithuania public doctor places are just full of angry soviet women, on the other hand private clinics are hella cheap here.

[@ricardoxavier827]

The main issue of USA is that USA constitution allows states to block the other states from creating a universal free health care system. In EU that blocks dont exist, and some EU members have it more and others have it less, because EU constitution allows members freedom on that. As while USA dont reform their constitution and political system to become a true democracy, with multiparty system by proportional vote representation, abolishing the crime of the winner takes all the seats, nothing will change. USA are a 2 party system dictatorship,, 2 elected wings full controled by the same not elected super rich eagle group, forever perpectuated in power by the winner takes it all, knowing that no political party borns big to win elections to win it all... It doenst matter if you have chronic liberal states, when the others states can actualy block that liberal states to be able to social-economic evolution like we have here in EU. EU institutions has no legal power to define states health care systems. And thats the window all USA citizens should target to allow states independence on health care systems, against the will of chronic republican states..,.,..,.,.,.

[@officechairpotato]

Kraut -> Krowt. It means German, though is sometimes derogatory dependent on context. It can also be chummy in some contexts due to the ribbing Europeans give eachother. It's sort of like Yank.

[@theoteddy9665]

its funny bc its cabbage

[@jenniferharrison8915]

As per many World War 11 movies, the Germans were referred to as the Krauts! 👍 Many Australians definitely still call Americans Yanks! 😁

[@DruncanUK]

@@theoteddy9665 So Sauerkraut = miserable German? 🤣🤣

[@arnodobler1096]

​@@DruncanUKangry 😂

[@marcelh7864]

@@jenniferharrison8915 I think I missed a few world wars.

[@charlotteholmes3056]

I am Brazilian and here we had a Universal Health System. It is caled SUS (Sistema Único de Saude - Single Sustem of Health). It is not perfect, but EVERYONE can use it. It is completly free and it attends since basic health care to complex surgeries. My dad made a brain surgery with the best neurosurgeon of Brazil (Paulo Niemeyer Filho) and payed nothing for it.

[@ldewproductions7271]

I have had stents fitted twice after two heart attacks in a specialist heart hospital. Also a 4 1/2 hour operation for abdominal aortic repair. Radio therapy for cancer and specialist hospital for stroke. Two cataracts repaired and hospital care for COVID. All with follow up care and medication. Yes the NHS has saved my life with no unbearable cost. I am lucky I live in Britain.

[@90Pekkis]

I get brain aneurysms every time Ryan opens his mouth.

[@eaglevision993]

Well then I hope you don´t live in the US. It might get pricy.

[@carolfletcher9939]

​@@eaglevision993that's brilliant! 😂😂😂