4 Gen Dyno Comparison! Does the 2024 Ford Mustang GT Compare to Other 5.0L Coyotes?

[@americanmuscle]

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[@djpendejo249]

Nice job skimming the comments! I saw a scammer tried replying to one of mine and saw that it’s already been removed. You guys have a great team!!!

[@Joemauma_]

You should do this exact vid but comparing them down the 1/4 mile track! Would be cool to see exactly how they all perform at the same track on the same day!

[@tylerpaquette8290]

Great suggestion

[@enflamedpapaya8592]

I’ve been waiting for a comparison like this

[@Kicksandgears305]

This is the best way to tell what Gen is the top dog

[@GTfromAG]

TOOK THE WORDS OUT MY MOUTH💯💯💯🫡

[@americanmuscle]

That WOULD be awesome- I'm emailing my boss right now with the idea lol. Wish me luck guys! :) -Justin

[@HeyBigChriss]

The 13/14’s still look so good. Still my favorite Coyote equipped mustang ever.

[@fgj8379]

This was a cool comparison test. Results speak for themselves. Can't wait to see them head to head in a 1/4!

[@americanmuscle]

Thanks for watching! -Zach

[@jmendozas197]

It’s awesome that guys did all 4 generations. Pretty sure you’re the first to do so 💯

[@americanmuscle]

Thanks for watching!! -Zach

[@woocoheed]

Gen 1 looks the best IMO

[@t-lawsfitness6044]

The 13 ,14 mustang by far looks the best still. Actually still looked retro

[@jovalleau]

I got a 2013 GT/CS. I still prefer the way the 2013/14's look vs newer bod styles. Fun video!

[@morresortiz]

Facts 💯

[@motaz1975]

13-14 still the best looking of the lot

[@woocoheed]

No doubt

[@nickjesic5823]

True

[@jovalleau]

Agree! I have a 2013 GT/CS and it just looks better than the newer gens, IMO.

[@t-lawsfitness6044]

1000000%

[@andrewpuleo8516]

Agree, I have a sweet grabber blue '23 gt but think Gen 1 is best looking of all.

[@jesseariasja]

Gen 2 is still daddy ❤❤❤

[@devious5.0]

Thank you for keeping it real Justin!

[@americanmuscle]

My pleasure devious! -Justin

[@shadowdraxx]

Although the S550 is my favorite car those last years of the S197s are possibility the best looking mustang of all time.

[@jdemarco1157]

2013 is the best looking mustang since the 60's

[@jovalleau]

Agree! I have a 2013 GT/CS and it just looks better than the newer gens, IMO.

[@AnkerBanker123]

I got a 2013 GT in 2019. Best decision ever. Black too lol.

[@DarkHorse_50]

Actually my least favorite lol I liked 2012 better. The 06 was cool too, 15, and the new ones look cool. 18 looked similar to 15 but I liked 15 better. 13-14 my least favorite. I own 15

[@jonathanbardunias1889]

That 13/14 tho, love the way those look even the engine looks so much better 🥵

[@ExUNDDevilDog22]

"King Daddy"? Justin be lurking on the YDBT lives. 😂

[@Garf2O]

Alex hosting a video like this just talking mad shit would be hilarious

[@jtokidjb]

Thinking the same thing 😅

[@morresortiz]

13-14 Best looking mustang

[@ThorsHammer88]

Gen 3 FTW

[@billshoe22191]

This was amazing doing all four gens of the Coyote V8. This is very useful when comparing since they were doing in the same day with the same conditions. You normally never see that. I will say the 2013 through 2014 is easily the best lookin of the generations. A quarter mile time with these four on the same spec/size tire would be perfection in wrapping up the comparison. Keep up the great work

[@ITRIEDEL]

I remember when I bought my 2012 Mustang GT. The 412hp at the time was pretty high for a base model GT. It felt so fast at the time.

[@midnight347]

It's still fast they're barely behind these new ones and they can actually be modified and tuned unlike the new one. There is more to how quick something is than just peak power. Also the 11-17 mt82 had much better gearing vs 18 up mt82. So the difference in real world performance isn't far off from a gen 1 to gen 4 all using manuals. The gen 1 and 2 were the best bang for the buck. The new ones cost alot more for very little stock vs stock improvement and no improvement at all in potential since they're locked down the older cars have much better potential.

[@Sforschondetta]

this@@midnight347

[@darylthomas4676]

Still loving on my 22! If you have any of the coyote engines your doing good imo! So glad i got one before everythings electric!

[@americanmuscle]

Great take! Any Mustang with a V8 is a great one. 😁 -Zach

[@darylthomas4676]

😬👍@@americanmuscle

[@ludedude5228]

Yes the HP increased from the original Gen 1 , But so did the weight of the cars . So they all run about the same in the 1/4

[@SoFarFromCrust]

Tell me where the lie is 😂

[@midnight347]

​@@SoFarFromCrustthey don't run the exact same but they ain't far off manual vs manual. To add insult to injury starting w the gen 3 the mt82 got shit gearing which makes the 11-17 cars not far behind at all stock vs stock.

[@281cobracar7]

Using 15% of drivetrain loss to calculate. I came up with these crank hp numbers. Gen 1 428hp Gen 2 456hp Gen 3 473hp Gen 4 482hp

[@evanderlugops]

You also have to factor in they were all dynoed in the wrong gear. The dyno numbers weren't accurate.

[@rd5991]

@@evanderlugops I'm pretty sure they know what they're doing...

[@evanderlugops]

@@rd5991 they do, thats why they even said at the beginning they are dyno-ing the car 1 gear before the 1:1. They only say this disclaimer because they KNOW they won't be getting the most accurate results.

[@evanderlugops]

@rd5991 they difference between the generations is most likely the same that it is in the video but the numbers are down across Ll generations due to them being dynoed in a non 1:1 gear.

[@gotdamnjimi9758]

⁠@@evanderlugops 482 is pretty accurate wouldn’t you say

[@lincolnls0416]

That helps me figure out what I what and need to drop in my LS Lincoln. After all 2015 Stang is on my chassie.

[@atown27]

Gen 1 still looks the best!!! The Gen 1 with a manifold swap. Cold air and tune. Let's even add a X-Pipe. It will be faster than a Dark Horse. It's a lighter car.

[@davothegreat9990]

It'll still lose.

[@AlexRodriguez-pu8qo]

@@davothegreat9990cap

[@Wooley689]

Still love my 2011 Gen1, would like to now after all this time get a little more bump from it .

[@sleepychallenger]

Just over here comparing our gens lol cool video, informative and engaging

[@RammSnipe]

While doing the pulls and results it would be nice to know the rear-end ratios as well as that also changes the TQ numbers.

[@busslayer4790]

Thanks for not making this painfully long. This is just long enough without annoying fluff to extend watch minutes.

[@Tre_Scatti]

Gen1 s still hang in there due to the lighter chassis. All are great cars in their own ways!

[@casper82ify]

The 14’ Still looks the best 👌🏻

[@msk3905]

Amazing how technology has increased from back when I was playing with my 90 notchback, back then we all were shooting for 300rwhp with them modified. My 90 was rated at 225HP at crank and this 2024 is rated at 480HP amazed at how technology has advanced.

[@midnight347]

300 wheel na in a car that is damn near 1000 lbs lighter. Guys made 450-500 wheel boosted back then and with that light of a car the modern stuff isn't as far out in front as it seems just looking at hp numbers.

[@plantfeeder6677]

All while meeting stricter emissions standards too. The greenies will never win against brilliant automotive engineers.

[@msk3905]

@@midnight347 Stock 2023 0-60 4.4 seconds & 12.8 sec 1/4 mile - 1990 0-60 6.1 seconds & 14.4 sec 1/4 mile…better engine and chassis technology today doesn’t seem to mind extra 1,000 lbs.

[@android-ud2nf]

Love my gen 2 and plan on keeping it

[@upat3am35]

A video every mustang owners been looking for!

[@americanmuscle]

Thanks for watching! -Zach

[@WaldoRK]

I have a gen 1 GHIG with auto 20000 miles...just a tune on the transmission and it run excellent..I kicked a 392 charger in the dirt no sweat

[@greddy63t]

Great video Justin. I had a 2013, it was nice, I ruined it by putting coilovers on it and it felt like it broke my spine over every bump. Then I got a 2015 and procharged it, ran 10s was awesome, and now Ive had and will be keeping my Grabber blue GT350. Its the most fun out of all of them even if its not the fastest.

[@FastGunner2040]

This is a good video because it's easy to understand.

[@SHADOWBLACKs650]

Good video,probably the best comparison on KZbin... it's to bad the runs can't be done in Drag mode...it's no doubt they make more power with a higher rpm that only comes with drag or track modes...good work..👍

[@JorgeMoren0]

Why can’t?

[@stangcobra592]

'11 for the win, still got mine

[@Nick0856]

As a 2019 mustang owner I would like to say the gen 1 looks better than mine

[@ThatPovMane]

Love my ‘13 5.0 looks badass sounds even better😁 can’t be mad that the new gens make more power the gen 1 is still no slouch especially fbo e85

[@americanmuscle]

The S550s and S650s look great - but those S197s are sick. 😎 -Zach

[@Selfcustody90]

nice vid, 2024 mustang doesnt have ticking sound?

[@StalloneSRB]

S197 is the best. I had hard time figuring out which one to get.. S550 or S197, but after some time I am definetly on S197 gen 1 side :)

[@DoctorMotorcycle]

Really interested to see what can be had out of the Gen 4 engine FBO w/E85 and opening up the intakes. Kudos to ford for still making a V8 manual transmission car. Is it the only manual transmission V8 N/A car for the '24 model year you can buy?

[@169abr]

Can’t tune them yet, and it’s unsure how long it’ll be before they can be tuned.

[@midnight347]

They are locked down and prob will be for the foreseeable future if not forever. Idk why people ain't understanding this lol. People are in denial about it.

[@SEXC_MIKE]

​@@midnight347someone already turboed one so it's definitely possible

[@dennisbryan7522]

I still have a 4.6 3v

[@deanwinchester119]

Give the 2015 a ported 2018 manifold and watch what happens! 2015 all day long! For looks and that bullet proof engine

[@GODEYE270115]

Ported boss mani still the goat. Good N/A and boosted and cheapest of them all

[@Linknelson]

Still love that 13-14

[@djpendejo249]

Great video idea. Craving the results.

[@americanmuscle]

Thanks for watching! -Zach

[@Lukja08]

Did you guys remove all the shit that restricts the Gen 3 coyote? If not - this needs to be redone.

[@PKDesigns2011]

Kool vid, Ty for making this happen great you could all these ponies in one spot

[@greenscobie86]

Great video! Would be great to put all 4 cars on the scales and get their weights. I’m sure lots of people will find that interesting 👍👍👍

[@mattoliver7650]

Here's the trick, starting with the Gen 1 Coyote, you would need a Track Pack optioned Mustang. With Gen 2 Coyote, it would be a PP2 Mustang. Then Gen 3 & 4 Coyotes, it's just PP Mustang. Those are all Mustangs at the same trim level. LMR actually weighed a PP Gen 3 Coyote against a base Gen 4 Coyote and called it an adequate comparison. Which it most certainly isn't. LMR doesn't realize that options add weight. Any drag racer who's ever gutted a car for racing weight will confirm that options do infact add weight.

[@GameOver321]

Always nice to see justin on these videos. I own a 13GT500 so those are my favorite. If I was in the market for a 5.0 I would 100% go with a gen 2!

[@midnight347]

I agree I'm also a gt500 owner (07) if I went w a gt it'd be a gen 2 I want a boss 302 which is essentially same engine as gen 2 with a better factory intake manifold in the s197 in a much better looking and more unique package.

[@deathscythehell7937]

Okay respectable numbers for stock, the gen 4 is still not worth the money or the effort. Gen 1-3 you can tune add turbos or a supercharger possibly doubling the horse power. You can push it even farther with a built coyote, transmission and e85 You can't do any of that with the gen 4, just sit back and hope Ford increases the power with that over the wifi tune. The aftermarket top tuners has already stated it's gonna be 2 or more years before you can expect to add power. How many people do you think is going to wait that long? Not many there will be a lot of them on used car lots long before that happens. On top of that the GTD mustang is coming next year, now that's worth looking forward too.

[@gotdamnjimi9758]

Yea no, anyone who is considering buying a Mustang GT is not even thinking about the GTD that’s a whole different bracket my guy. You should of said dark horse but definitely not the GTD. That shii also gonna be limited to special buyers. 😂😂

[@deathscythehell7937]

@@gotdamnjimi9758 Oh yeah, the dark gelding the other castrated horsie. If I'm unable to tune or add horsepower it's worthless. The best part about owning a mustang is ability to tune an upgrade it. But you can't do that with the GT or the dark gelding can you? I haven't left a mustang stock since I owned a Fox body, it's all about taking it to the next level. Oh, I've already started the ordering process for the GTD. Did you think I didn't know it was limited? My summer job from 15 to 18yrs old until I went to college was working at a speed shop. I own highly modified 900hp 67 gt500, a 1000+hp 20 gt350r, 1000+hp 22 gt500 the GTD will fit right in with them. Anything less than 800hp that I can't tune it and take it to the track isn't worth my time or busted knuckles.

[@gotdamnjimi9758]

@@deathscythehell7937 that definitely is the truth brother being unable to tune and modify your car to your liking sucks. I am looking forward to what ford ends up doing with all its consumer’s thoughts on the matter. Im personally happy and sticking with my 19. I do believe I have an idea on why everyone is getting low results with the new 2024 mustang. What I’m about to say is purely hypothetical but I believe it’s because they release them first with a low tune on purpose. An in two to three months or so from now they will release an over the air update that will actually awake the car. God I hope that makes sense and that I don’t sound dumb and get memed.

[@deathscythehell7937]

@@gotdamnjimi9758 Personally I think this version of the mustang was built to bring in the younger generation. Most of them don't have the desire or the ability to work on their cars. My grown son's would rather look at at a computer screen or phone screen than turn a wrench, (god knows I tried with them) my daughter on the other hand doesn't mind getting a little grease on her hands. She was right there in the garage helping me customize her Jeep Rubicon last year. I guess you can tell who's my favorite. 🤣🤣🤣 Her husband didn't even come over to help, I think he's intimidated by me.

[@bongsi21]

Great comparison

[@wynstonwright4653]

How long are you letting the cars run before hitting the Dyno? I know this sounds crazy but I’ve watched videos where the engines are hot and it seems like they run better.

[@jacoblong4280]

why did you do the pull on the 2024 in third? is 1-1 now forth gear on the new stangs?

[@lldjslim]

All 4 of these mustangs need to be put on the track and let them have at it, this is the only way to settle this F the Mustang dyno

[@169abr]

Gen 1 or 3 will win that, if it’s autos it’ll be Gen 3.

[@NITROUSnBIASPLYS]

That's a clean gen1, my favorite coyote mustang. Would be interesting to see 0-60 runs on all these stock cars. Same driver same day results 💯⛽️⛽️💯

[@americanmuscle]

Same! Gen 1 will always be my fave too. -Justin

[@davothegreat9990]

The slowest generation...😅

[@SiCxNeMeSiS]

@@davothegreat9990 Are you sure about that? This channel has a 8yr old video of a stock gen 1 beating a stock gen 2 in a drag race. Gen 1 is the lightest out of all of them. You can look up videos on it

[@hightechredneck_0566]

Great video. Always love dyno vids. Thanks!

[@americanmuscle]

Thanks for watching! -Zach

[@thullraven1]

Wow! I have a 2018 Manual GT that's paid off and I'm keeping her until she drops or I do. She's got low miles and is slightly modded (got some from you guys). My Black Beauty is got both more horsepower and a lot more torque than the 2024 GT.

[@AGBULLIT]

Thank you! This is very informative.

[@americanmuscle]

Thanks for watching! -Zach

[@NitroAdventure]

Y'all shout-out to Justin for being one of the most consistent and hardest working people in the mustang media space

[@americanmuscle]

Damn, thanks man. I don’t know about that but I certainly appreciate the kind words! 🙏🏼 -Justin

[@bg5561742]

I have a 2016 and it was not crazy expensive that’s what I like

[@ChristianS23474]

You should Also do the truck motors 1-4

[@boonedawg1506]

Not sure if you have done this, but can you do the f150 5.0 as well?

[@SoFarFromCrust]

Im still going to say....the Boss 302 and the 19 Bullit were the two best mustangs I will always miss. Let us not forget that the 2014 GT500 was the first stang to clear 200mph....with a 1st gear that hit 60

[@juanc5149]

If the torque numbers are completely off, wouldn’t the hp numbers be off as well?

[@sebastianmuglia7451]

Good question. I thought the HP was calculated from the torque number.

[@semiautoshooting1734]

I have a 2014 JLT cold air 47 INJ and tune making 410 on gas RWP 395 TQ love my Gen 1 6 speed

[@oj1026]

Loved this vid!!

[@TOPSPEEDBUSA]

Great video! Can you do it again with weight of all the vehicles?

[@XxIBRAHIMxX11]

Perfect video no bullshit straight to the point much thanks justin

[@haydenduffey6969]

The 2013-2014 are gonna be the “new classics” coming soon 🎉

[@RareGenXer]

And yet after all these years a 2024 GT is basically no faster than a 2011 GT (at least the manual with 3:73 rear end) because of years of bloated weight gain. IMHO the 2011-2012 GT with deluxe interior is the sharpest, cleanest design, perfectly proportioned with a neoclassic interior. And the engine bay looks the best too! It's the best execution of modern design with nod to the classic lines. Honorable mention goes to the 2013-1014 styling. But the front gives hint of the slab front 4" pedestrian impact zone that has all but ruined the exterior styling of every new vehicle.

[@midnight347]

I agree 110% with everything you said some people just can't wrap their head around that. They refuse to beleive the newer ones aren't this huge leap forward lol. They ain't especially for the money spent it's not even close.

[@hermanrogers1325]

So, the challenger and charger 5.7 is better than the old 5.0 not to mention 6.2 scat pact

[@Rijos313]

Love my gen 1, embarrassed a few gen twos. Can't beat the gen2 for boost though. Can't go wrong with any generation

[@samsonfpv8902]

Lol yeah ok

[@Rijos313]

@samsonfpv8902 yeah ok what? You know the 13-14s are faster than the 2nd gen until you get into fbo or boost territory.

[@s5filty]

@@Rijos313not faster but definitely much lighter

[@michaelmcdonald9847]

@@Rijos313Boost? This is a naturally aspirated engine.

[@michaelmcdonald9847]

As soon as you go around a corner you immediately get gapped by an S550 or S650. The 2005-2014 car handles like a Dodge

[@DarriusLee-ou2hk]

I love my gen 2 2015 mustang gt. They all great cars

[@jtokidjb]

Add a boss mustang to the mix!

[@fast02gt]

I mean the 5.0 gen 1 compared to a 3 valve stock to stock is HUGE. That’s what you gotta look at and really shows where we are now.

[@midnight347]

Because it's a totally different engine with alot more compression, rpm, tech, 4v vs 3v, dohc vs sohc, and it goes on and on. These are all dohc 4v 5.0 coyotes with little small steps upward through the years. Not a good comparison.

[@fast02gt]

@@midnight347 I’m saying it shows the leaps we made n/a and from getting our shit stomped in by t/a and SS to actually winning n/a. The 3 valve was our last motor before the 5.0

[@stangcobra592]

@@midnight347 2V, 3V and 4V were all shit for seat in the pants feel, especially in the low rpms, my '11 5.0 is quicker from a dig than my 620HP Blown 4V Cobra which is a slug under 4K rpms.

[@shannonmcatee9610]

Great vid. Tune em n dyno again

[@SiCxNeMeSiS]

Still have my Gen 1 😀

[@dham99]

well that explains why my 2016 Focus ST is walking these guys that are just exhaust/bolt ons... Im a decent bit over 400whp and have been wondering why even after giving them the hit, I just kind of walk away and they look nice, sound nice, and always pick on me, but when I decide to give in...they dont want to play anymore XD

[@biged2193]

14 is my favorite and I have a 20

[@tmolne117]

That looks like 475 crank for that gen 3 if you calculate X 0.85 for drive train loss

[@FoDaddy]

Drivetrain loss is around 11%-12% with MT-82.

[@anthonyrowland9072]

great car and all but can we get a clean sheet mustang please. retro was cool for a while but they've been making it look like a '68 for 19 years now. we never would've got a fox,sn95, or new edge like this.

[@aycemanm8151]

Yep keeping my 2020 GT, would not mind a Mach 1 or GT 350.

[@chefbergsfoodadventures6531]

They should do this video to see how the engines respond to modifications. Or how they differ in the quarter mile. I really feel like there's so much more they can play with the four generations

[@immanuelo.9548]

Is there a reason he pulled the Gen 4 in 3rd gear?

[@19hundoc47]

If the gen 2 is the macdaddy then that’s news to me. I’ve owned a gen 1,2 and 3 coyote and the 2nd gen blew on me after 30k total miles and it was stock. No track days. I liked 1 and 3 a lot better even before it blew

[@lowtohigh6009]

Interesting 🤔 what gen mustang do you currently own ?

[@19hundoc47]

@@lowtohigh6009 gen 1, they all feel about the same power wise since the weight on the gen 1 cars is lower

[@169abr]

Gen 2 is best for big boy horsepower, like 1000+whp. Gen 2 just works better being a simple port injection engine with everything so vetted it’s a cakewalk.

[@thefitnesslife4988]

​@@19hundoc47Nahh I've owned both a 6r80 gen 1 and now a 10r80 gen 3 pp1 and stock for stock you feel the increased power in the gen 3 night and day.

[@19hundoc47]

@@thefitnesslife4988 maybe in the automatic transmission with the more aggressive gearing in the 10r80, but with the manuals they feel pretty similar overall. Motor trend has the 13-14 gen 1 at 4.3 0-60 and 4.4 for the 18 GT with the manual, I’ve only owned the manuals.

[@allthathpandnotire3019]

Did you dyno the gen 3 in 3rd? Looks like the shifter was forward and not back?

[@americanmuscle]

Yes- gen3 and gen4 were in 3rd since 4th is 1:1 in those gens. Gens 1&2 the 1:1 is 5th. Sorry I didn’t clarify that in the vid 👍🏼 - Justin

[@tylerolson5860]

Gen3 10 speed FTW

[@AcButeo]

If I remember correctly the 3rd gen mustangs had a slightly taller gear ratio compared to say a 2016. That might account for the slight reduction in torque gear-for-gear.

[@billyo6544]

Were the numbers a bit off at the end because the cars weren’t all done in the same gear? You said they would all be done in 4th gear before the 1:1 but the 3rd and 4th gen was done in 5th gear in the video. Love the comparison between them all still!

[@americanmuscle]

1:1 gear is different in gen 1 and gen 2 (5th gear) compared to gen 3 and 4 (4th gear) I should’ve clarified that more in the video 👍🏼 -Justin

[@Zakatak360]

Gen 1 with a gen 3 *ported* intake manifold + other bolt-ons = yes

[@mourningoctober9338]

Ive seen some stock gen 3s hit 400rwhp-420rwhp so its about right either way if its got 402rwhp stock on 93

[@mlmccollum100]

Do this, i know ford uses synthetic oils from the factory, but put royal purple in the engine, transmission, and rear end and see if they produce any more HP/TQ. I seen a show back around 2000 that showed like a 36hp gain just by changing the oils

[@midnight347]

The new royal purple sucks. Also these new cars use better fluids factory than they had 20 years ago there won't be that kind of gain. Rp is prob not what you'd wanna choose nowadays unless it's the hps or the racing one.

[@josephg41]

Gen 1 still looks the best under the hood, Gen 2 2nd, Gen 3 doesn't look great, never liked that cover, and Gen 4 looks good again.

[@fernandomendez9019]

It will be nice to see all stock on the 1/4 mile at the track 👍🏻

[@Andregarcia5.0]

That alejandro flores reference at 2:50 👀

[@kevinbarrett9615]

I enjoyed this video, l have an 18 G.T. and love it, I love all these models as a true Mustang guy. Interesting that the 24 is only up 8 hp, guess I’ll hang on to mine for a while longer.

[@michaelmcdonald9847]

The S550 is aging quickly now. Looking at mine next to the S650 and I’d be lying to myself if I said the S550 looks more modern

[@midnight347]

​@@michaelmcdonald9847I'm glad I'm not like people like you who fall in love with anything that is newer and more tech filled even if it sucks for performance smh. Be my guest bro

[@midnight347]

​@@michaelmcdonald9847the s650 looks like someone took an s550 and threw the American muscle catelog at it. Headlights are even shaped like gen 2 again and it literally rides on an s550 chassis yall are so easily impressed throw a little tech at it and call it all new they got yall wanting to buy the new car like it's the greatest thing since sliced bread smh. Think for yourself and don't be brainwashed by the internet

[@michaelmcdonald9847]

@@midnight347 You ok bro?

[@danw4507]

New one looks so good definitely the best out of the lot.

[@alexmann3309]

3rd gear in the Gen 3?