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[@SpeccyHorace]

How are the Moors Murderers not in there??

[@VillaFanDan92]

Channels that do top 10 lists often miss an obvious one out so that loads of people comment it and it drives up engagement. Either that, or they'll deliberately pronounce something wrong.

[@jessieb7290]

It depends on who made the top ten video. If they aren’t that old, they wouldn’t be aware of Myra Hindley and Ian Brady. There are also some murders I’m unaware of. As well as regular crimes and stuff. I was born in the mid 80’s, recently I saw a show about this guy who broke into peoples homes in the 70’s and raped and killed people.

[@martinsear5470]

Agreed, more reason to be on this list rather than Charles Bronson.

[@karasaunty9823]

I know. I thought it was going to be number one!

[@harryc8415]

Also John Reginald Christie (landmark case that helped bring an end to executions in the U.K. )

[@Andy-ju8bb]

I'm sure others will have commented this, but how can this be a top ten without Robert Thompson and Jon Venables? The James Bulger killing was utterly sickening.

[@kookycat9663]

I agree they are definitely 2 of the worst 'things' (can't call them humans) to ever breathe air! They wouldn't be included in this because it's about serial killers only...

[@carolinecrollick6305]

The Watch Mojo has them on a the list.

[@SpeccyHorace]

@@kookycat9663 Makes me absolutely sick to think of the money spent protecting their identity down the years.

[@SpeccyHorace]

​@@kookycat9663 Also this list is not actually about serial killers. It's the scariest criminals.

[@kathrynboyd4448]

I was in the shopping centre in Liverpool, ( Bootle)when that dreadful event occurred. It was beyond evil

[@MrAlexBun]

I can’t believe they’ve missed off the Moors murderers Myra Hindley and Ian Brady. Their crimes were so shocking that when they attempted to recruit Hindley’s brother-in-law into their team, he was so traumatised by what he witnessed he went straight to the police.

[@dobby9996]

My grandad was almost a victim of Brady and Hindley. He was walking home and they stopped to give him a lift, he got in but then his brother came up too. They were massive blokes in their youth so they clearly couldn't be overpowered by Brady and Hindley so they just gave them a lift

[@kidsgrove-spider8405]

Read the the book Devil's Disciples, most sicking book I have ever read. Ian Brady and myra Hindley

[@marieofthetoon09]

This is missing the moors murderers, Ian Huntley, the murder of Jamie bulger, Lucy letby, philpot murders and how Robert maudsley isn't in here is beyond me, he's kept in a friggin glass box in prison like hanibal 😬

[@mcgeorgeofthejungle6204]

The video was pre 2020, Lucy Letby wasn't known about back then. Or I should say she wasn't really found out about until later even though her spree started in 2015.

[@Tommy-he7dx]

The Moors Murderers, Mira Hindly & Ian Brady, Should have both been on this list Harold Shipman victims were all elderly and frail but weren't Terminal......It is possible that his death count is higher and he's the worse serial killer in history

[@geoffpoole483]

I think Shipman was caught due to him altering a patient's will, and the alteration looked very obvious.

[@SteveBagnall-gh1fu]

I wouldn't call 50 elderly, we think our old neighbour was a victim as she was found in a room she very rarely used, certainly more than he admitted to.

[@nealgrimes4382]

He has the highest confirmed Kills, though for instance Amelia Dyer may have been up to 400 that's only worked out on her possible rate of murder.

[@C4sp3r123]

Highly recommend the BBC documentary series about Shipman called The Shipman files: A very British crime story

[@scooby1992]

And Levi Bellfield

[@elainecampbell8227]

Shipman was a general practitioner - a GP. This is the kind of doctor you go to visit when you're feeling unwell (about anything), and is not a hospital based doctor. A GP is a primary care health practitioner.

[@MollyCasey369]

Yeah and his patients were primarily elderly people, that must be how he got away with it for so long..

[@Millennial_Manc]

The call them a Family Doctor in the US

[@mikeoxlong4110]

An Amateur to Hancock & Fauci

[@tonys1636]

As elderly patients under his care and killed with an overdose of the drugs they were on, his signature and the cause of death on the death certificates raised no alarm. It was his name appearing in their wills as a beneficiary and being contested by some of the families that caught the attention of the authorities.

[@kaspianepps7946]

@@MollyCasey369 He also sometimes went back and changed their medical records to make it look like their health was poor.

[@suerogerts4330]

the rose and Fred west's house was demolished

[@WinstonSmith19847]

Yes the picture they showed was of the house nextdoor their house was where the allyway is now it's a remembrance place for the victims.

[@Great_King_Rat]

So was Brady & Hindley's - it's Standard Practice now to keep the Ghouls away

[@janescott4574]

Harold shipman was a general practitioner apparently much loved by his patients. Most of his victims were elderly but not particularly ill.

[@jessieb7290]

Oh yeah he was nuts!

[@Brian-om2hh]

His murders aside, Dr Harold Shipman was indeed thought of by many as an excellent GP....... It was only once an abnormally high number of death certificate signings by Dr Shipman came to light, were concerns raised...... It is thought he may have murdered 200+ of his patients....often advising or encouraging some patients to change their will - to Dr Shipman's benefit - prior to their deaths.....

[@BritMemes]

He was ✡️

[@gemronan303]

I think he also made them put him in their wills?

[@robcrossgrove7927]

@@gemronan303 In at least one case, he actually altered the will himself. That was what originally rang alarm bells with the daughter of one of the victims. She was a solicitor I think.

[@gillgill6095]

I was a student nurse in Leeds at the time of the Yorkshire Ripper, the atmosphere in the city was so tense. I remember driving through Headingley at dusk and the streets were deserted. We had escorts to the hospital car parks after a late shift and would go to the supermarket with friends.

[@Yorkshireborn52]

I lived very close to where Peter Sutcliffe murdered the ladies in Yorkshire. We didn’t go out alone, it was the most scary time.

[@paulmilner8452]

my mum lived on scotthall road where he murdered a few i believe ........ she believed in 1979 when she was 18 walking home from a pub she was being followed but luckily a man coming the opposite way seemed to stop the following , she ran home and believed it could have been him she never went out at night alone again until after his arrest

[@ErnestKirby]

me and mum walked over scott hall fields coming back from the infermary,just after the first murder in leeds i used to play with jane mcdonald before we moved in 1968 from scott hall avenue,by the way im not ernest im his wife just cant be bothered changing the name

[@paulmilner8452]

@@ErnestKirby omg i went to her school scothall middle school in 1991 years after her, but we all knew someone who knew her, that poor girl she was mistaken for a prostitute , it's believed he killed her by mistaken identity of being a sex worker its so sad

[@Yorkshireborn52]

@@ErnestKirby I lived near Ilkley and it was thought he attacked someone with a hammer there but never proved but I lived just outside Headingly when he murdered the last poor girl.

[@rosemarygreenslade3497]

Rose west was 16 when she met Fred he had already been married and had kids. The two children they killed were his daughter Charmaine and their daughter Heather. It was a truly horrific story

[@fayesouthall6604]

The worst couple ever.

[@faithpearlgenied-a5517]

​@@fayesouthall6604Hindley and Brady also.

[@johannajames7824]

She was 15. Her parents put her in a children's home but as soon as she was 16 she ran away to be with him.

[@rosemarygreenslade3497]

@@johannajames7824 wow worse than I thought I remember watching the tv show about them. Both evil

[@johannajames7824]

@@rosemarygreenslade3497 they had horrifically abusive childhoods, its awful

[@lizg5574]

When we first got married, we rented a home. Then, 4 years later, we decided to buy. We didn't have any furniture and with a garden, we needed some basic tools. My brother in law was an avid auction attendee and offered to find items we needed. He got us a few power tools and some garden electrics. When he brought them to our new home he told us how he'd attended a sale of the possessions of someone who'd been in the news recently . . . and that our tools had once belonged to Fred West. He showed us the paperwork to back this up - not that it made us any more comfortable! Thankfully none were of the type he used to commit the murders, but it was my policy that none of them was ever stored in the house!

[@lizg5574]

The Kray twins had a henchman, called the Mad Axeman because of the gruesome things he was prepared to do and actually did. His real name was Frank Mitchell. He was imprisoned for his crimes, in Dartmoor Prison (a place built by Prisoners of the Napoleonic war). He would go out in working parties onto the moors, which are very inhospitable and sparsely populated. In December 1966 he escaped, telling the guard that he was going to feed one of the Dartmoor ponies close-by. The alarm was raised quite a while later and a huge man hunt ensued. At that time I lived (I was very young!) in East Devon and my parents had close friends in Princetown, the tiny town where the prison was. We were going to visit them with gifts and, with the man hunt still underway, were subjected to being stopped and our car searched every few miles of our journey. The silly part was, there were 4 adults and 5 little kids, plus a large dog in the car, so there was no way anyone else would fit in the car! Frank Mitchell had been spirited away by others of "The Firm" who killed him within 14 days and disposed of his body possibly in the English channel or maybe somewhere along the M1, which was under construction at the time!

[@iamthestig1]

There are some right head cases out there who'd be interested in that sort of thing...

[@kateroberts201]

My grandad knew the Krays - he lived near them and they hung out together

[@littleannie390]

I don’t know how old this video is but Peter Sutcliffe died in 2020. He did spent the last few years in prison but he was committed to Broadmoor mental hospital with paranoid schizophrenia in 1984 and remained there until 2016 when he was deemed fit to return to prison.

[@grantjohnston7972]

Charles Bronson isn't scary at all. He's just absolutly insane 😂 I highly recommend watching Bronson. It's a great film and tom Hardy is brilliant

[@sharonmartin4036]

What is scary is how many times he was let out. Originally jailed for armed robbery, most of his violent crimes have been committed while incarcerated. He has attacked/assaulted many fellow inmates and guards and has allegedly been in solitary confinement longer than any other inmate in modern history.

[@grantjohnston7972]

@@sharonmartin4036 oh yeah I'd be very hesitant to let him out but he's a lovely chap 😂 and let's be fair there's standard attacking guards and then there's stripping naked and covering yourself in butter so they can't grab you 😂

[@sharonmartin4036]

@@grantjohnston7972 🤣🤣😂🤣😂

[@fayesouthall6604]

Insane is the best description of him.

[@bri957]

Try spending 24 hours in a cell with him n see how scary he is or isn't then 😂😂

[@hypnoticuniverseofficial]

Here's 2 more for you - Lucy Letby (baby killer nuse) and Beverley Allitt (child and baby killer nurse). Both thoroughly disgust me and as an ex-children's nurse, I find it all the more abhorrent having seen what families of sick children go through. May all their victims rest in peace 😢

[@ruthbashford3176]

Lucy Letby is innocent

[@Debbie-st4nn]

​@@ruthbashford3176oh heck no she's not

[@cenedra2143]

My mum was alive during the moors murders, they really upset her, even many years after, enough to talk to me about it all many times. They should be on here!

[@SpeccyHorace]

Yep same with my mum.

[@chrisaskin6144]

The tape recording (played in court) of Lesley Ann Downey pleading with Brady and Hindley for her life and to be allowed to go home, is haunting in the extreme.

[@zollykod2541]

@@chrisaskin6144 Has anyone ever heard it, outside that courtroom (and obviously by the police)?

[@juliankaye8143]

I think prior to the Moors Murders we had more freedom. After them we all seemed to have been made more aware of “stranger danger”.

[@chrisaskin6144]

@@zollykod2541 There was a TV documentary many many years ago, probably at least 40 years or more about the murders, and there was a small extract maybe around 10 secs or so from the tape recording that Brady and Hindley made whilst they had Lesley. It was all too clear in those few seconds just how terrified Lesley was in the situation she found herself.

[@OneTrueScotsman]

no list is complete without Jon Venebles and Robert Thompson.

[@karendorman3184]

Coming from living in Liverpool and especially in Bootle where those monsters took him from 🤬

[@ruthbashford3176]

I don't think children should be on the list. Mary Bell is not on the list.

[@TheGingerButterfly]

I was a teenager when the horrors of Fred and Rose West were reported in the press. Every article contained more information than the last. Over the months the nightmare of what those women and girls when through will haunt many minds to this very day. Although, thankfully, the journalists in court we're responsible and respectful of the deceased and their loved ones and chose not to print the truly horrendous sexual torture that many were subjected to. I hope each and every one of them are at peace on the other side.🦋☀️🧡

[@antionettemurphy8720]

Not to mention the horrific SA their own children endured, they murdered Heather because she was going to tell the authorities. I don't know how they got away with it for so long, they where reported many times by teachers, health visitors etc. Unfortunately the child social services still fail miserably 20+ years later.

[@TheGingerButterfly]

​@@antionettemurphy8720 There are many cases of child abuse and neglect that have been highlighted in the press where I haven't got enough knowledge [of the system] to understand why Social Services haven't done more to protect these vulnerable children. I know in some cases, in the past, that Social Workers are not only far too stretched with far too many cases to deal with (and the mountains of paperwork that entails), but they to haven't always had the protection they need. What with governments not bringing in laws to protect people from being sued for stupid reasons, sometimes Social Workers have to put their survival and, for those applicable, the survival of their dependent(s) first; by keeping their job (even at the expense of a child in need). I don't know if this is still a reality nowadays. Glad that I don't have to make such a heartbreaking decision. I agree, we should never forget all the West children - those that were murdered and those that survived horrendous abuse.🦋

[@mrfill9999]

Black Widow - the name comes from the spider as the female kills the male after mating.

[@obijon7441]

Nah, the spider was named due to it's post-coital behaviour, the term "Black Widow" existed well before the arachnid was named as such. Opinions differ on the origins of the phrase but it's commonly believed to have originally referred to an ancient Hindu mourning ritual in which widowed women would blacken their faces with the ashes from their husband's funeral pyre. Although some sources say there was a much more gruesome ritual in which the widowed women chose to be burnt alive with their dead husband's body.

[@Kat-mu8wq]

Actually majority of female spiders killed land eat their mate. As do many other insects such as mantis, which sometimes eat the head of their mate whilst still mating. 😂

[@michellelindsay8911]

​@@obijon7441wow, I didn't know that, that's really interesting, thanks 😮😁

[@reinette]

The scariest thing about Fred and Rose West is that they both displayed disturbing behaviour before even meeting each other so neither was the ringleader - did they perhaps recognise that the other was sick so were attracted to each other? Also yes the worst serial killers are all pre millenium as law enforcement simply didn't have the knowledge that such people existed (and yes advancements in science such as DNA testing/CCTV/computer databases).

[@coldwhite4240]

I believe you're right that the reasons for the number of serial killers falling significantly (in the UK at least) are due to changes in science and policing. It's nothing to do with society somehow being 'nicer' - ie: less abuse in families and relationships since the end of WW2 - as some on here have claimed, since the numbers - and regular news stories - show familial and domestic abuse are still rampant, sadly. There are many stories of parents and step-parents abusing and killing their children today, for example, and those are just the ones we hear about. The difference is that today, killers are often 1) more blatant, and 2) more easily detected, so are more likely to be stopped before their murder count has risen significantly. The chances of going undetected for years are much slimmer now, and it's notable that several of the ones who had been getting away for decades (like The Wests and Harold Shipman) were finally caught in the 1990s, as forensic and policing techniques reached a point where they could prove conclusive. The serial killers that have been caught more recently (like the mentioned 'Crossbow cannibal' in 2009-10, the 'Suffolk strangler' Steven Wright in 2006 and Joanna Dennehy, one of the worst modern female killers in 2013) have killed several victims in a much shorter space of time - days or months - generally showing that it is not possible to evade capture for very long these days once investigators start to use the power of forensics and CCTV in tracking the perpetrator down.

[@kronos6460]

@@coldwhite4240 CCTV for sure is very important in capturing serial killers in the UK, whereas in other parts of the world it's not so prevelant. However with so much information available on the internet the perpetrators have incredible access to avoid detection. These days it's so readily apparent how to successfully dispose of bodies for example that I imagine the cops may not even know they have a serial killer, just a lot of missing people.

[@benowen170]

Fred's brother said he changed after a bad bike crash in his teens, it makes you wonder if things might have been different if he had not had that crash.

[@reinette]

Yes, it's entirely possible that neurological damage could have contributed to his behaviour, especially if nothing was done about it. Personally I think serial killers occur through many factors just as childhood abuse, personal characteristics etc but it always comes down to the individual - Myra Hindley's sister Maureen showed no violent tendencies despite having the same upbringing and being in a relationship with a man who was no Prince Charming and Harold Shipman thought it was ok to murder hundreds despite a comfortable middle class upbringing.

[@KernowWarrior]

I think the reason there are less serial killers is because detecting methods are now so advanced they get caught before they become 'serial'.

[@chucky2316]

Untrue technology is only good when it works 😂

[@ElizabethMackenzie69]

Or/and they've learned how to hide their crimes better unfortunately. 🤔

[@bri957]

You speaking from experience Elizabeth 😂😂

[@ElizabethMackenzie69]

@@bri957 😆

[@StephanieA925]

I agree. There are 12 serial killers in the UK who were caught and were active in the 2000's. They are either being caught early on, or their cases didn't have as much public attention. If he hadn't of been caught Huntley would have probably made the list.

[@user-eb1sd2vj9r]

Hi there. General Practitioner (GP) is the equivalent of your family doctor, so no specialism. The patients were mostly elderly so it wasn’t obvious that they hadn’t died of natural causes. Particularly as their death certificates would have been written by him as their doctor.

[@wolfeflambe]

Probably wouldn’t have been caught if he hadn’t forged his victims wills to benefit himself.

[@Millennial_Manc]

It was obvious to some of the families and some of his colleagues long before anyone took it seriously. That 200+ was just the murders he was charged with. There could have been many, many more. He may be the world’s most prolific lone acting serial killer or maybe in the top 4. Same situation with the maternity ward nurse Lucy Letby who killed all those babies, and the colleagues who raised the alarm got in more trouble than she did.

[@lloydcollins6337]

18:40 bear in mind that's a drawing of her, probably done after her capture, and may well have been "propaganda" to showcase her horrific crimes and sell newspapers to the public. It might not actually look anything like her.

[@Kari_B61ex]

Shipman was a GP (general practitioner) Most of the people he killed were elderly and he moved from different practices.

[@helenwood8482]

Even then, other doctors joked he was Dr Death.

[@jessieb7290]

He used morphine I believe.

[@fayesouthall6604]

@@jessieb7290if I was on my way out Morphine is the way I would like to go. I’ve had it post op. It rocks.

[@ecog558]

My theory is that if the spike in serial killings happened in the 60s and 70s, most serial killers were born in the 20s-40s. Their generations were raised by people who had fought in both world wars. They likely had fathers with PTSD, mothers who were left alone while the fathers were off fighting, etc. Leaving a lot of kids with a turbulent childhood. Even today families still suffer the passed on effects generational traumas from those wars

[@wulfgold]

Also, across the Atlantic, in the US you'd have had people that went through The Depression raising kids that would have been the right age in the 60s and 70s. Gein springs to mind.

[@chucky2316]

That is rubbish still serial killers around

[@ecog558]

@@chucky2316 Sure, there are still kids suffering abuse/neglect today and all serial killers go through some form.of this as kids. My theory is that during these times, neglect and abuse were more common as times were a lot tougher

[@chucky2316]

Joanne denehey didn't

[@lisaminto-ci4uj]

Less serial killers now because they’re caught early on in their spree due to modern technology and science.

[@jacquieclapperton9758]

Definitely should have included Peter Tobin, Robert Black, Ian Huntley, and Joanna Dennehy - the woman who terrified Rose West so much that she pleaded to change prisons. Also Beverley Allit.

[@isking1715]

Even seeing the name Robert Black makes me feel like vomiting. We'll never know exactly how many children were killed by that pos. How he was eventually caught is quite the story in itself.

[@lmorgzy]

One of the saddest parts of the Moors Murderers story is one of their victims, Keith Bennett has never been found. Refused to say where his body was buried. Keiths mum spent the rest of her life fighting for information, pleading with the killer trying to get an answer, and sadly died in 2012 not knowing where her sons body was laid to rest. I'm not the religious type - but I can only pray they are together in some way now.

[@NimpanZ]

You guys are really pushing ahead to invest more of your time and effort into the channel with more regular content. I wish you all the success your incredible effort deserves. ❤👍

[@Rachel_M_]

Totally agree. It's no accident other reactors follow Steve and Lindsay's lead in what they react to. Steve and Lindsay always lead the way in exploring new horizons.

[@101steel4]

All they need to do now is use the correct flags, and stop annoying 90% of their subscribers 😂😂

[@reactingtomyroots]

Thanks! Really appreciate your support :)

[@sallyannwheeler6327]

Well that’s brightened up my morning😂On a more serious note,a member of my family is a Doctor of criminal psychology,who has to sit in a room at a table ,facing murderers,rapists and pedophiles,to try and get in their minds to try and understand why they committed their crimes. It seriously takes a very special person to do this. The psychologists actually have to have counselling themselves, on a regular basis,to ensure they are ok,with all they have to hear and endure.

[@reactingtomyroots]

Yeah I would imagine! Talk about a hard job. What's that Nietzsche quote? "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you."

[@sallyannwheeler6327]

Not a profession for most. Takes a lot of knowledge,self discipline and actually having the ability to sit and try to have a rational conversation with them,to hear their story. I personally,am one of them people that could not do it ,full stop. I admit I had never heard of the philosopher, Nietzsche before. Interesting. A very deep quote.

[@stuartfitch7093]

As others have put, Harold Shipman was a GP (General Practitioner), but how he got away with it for so long was because all his patients were old people who he knew other people wouldn't think it suspicious if they died because of their age.

[@jasonclogg]

He also signed all the death certificates, citing old age as the cause, and he was signing cremation forms. All this meant post mortems were no performed. One of the reasons he was eventually caught was because one of his patients changed her will shortly before she died and left £36k to Shipman. The will typeface matched a typewriter he owned.

[@hellsbells8689]

Shipman's victims were the elderly. A local taxi driver noticed the numbers of the elderly people he would take regularly to Doctors appointments were dropping and he started to keep a diary. He helped in the investigation of Shipman. Shipman was thought of as a kind man. He'd go out to visit his patients. Some would die after he'd left but as they were considered to be "Under Doctor's Care" at the time of death, there didn't need to be an autopsy/inquest, so he would sign their death certificates. He even organized some of their funerals, choosing cremation to cover up the drug (Morphine, I think) in the deceased's remains. One lady was cremated. Her daughter knew her late mother had always hated the idea of cremation and became suspicious. I think she later found that the late mother had signed over their "estate" to Shipman. That was what he was doing. Making money to feed his drug habit by changing the Wills of elderly people. Hiding under the cover of Kind Old Doctor who will always come out to see you when you're ill. Calling morning and night.

[@reactingtomyroots]

Wow, pretty sick!

[@michaelcaffery5038]

The amount he would have gained from the fraudulent will was not that much. Some speculate it was an unconscious desire to be caught. The idea of him being a drug addict was from when he was questioned by a medical tribunal over the amount of diamorphine hydrochloride AKA heroin he was getting through to kill his victims. He explained it by saying he was an addict. GPs would not usually get through much as it is mostly used by the terminally ill in a hospital or hospice setting. He got away with it for so long because nobody could believe it of a doctor. Even when they tested the bodies of 7 victims and found massive amounts of diamorphine I still found it hard to believe.

[@marie-iz8hx]

how myra and brady from moors murders werent on their murders still give me chills with the tape recordings and unknown body of last victim rose west was herself SA as a child so she was always messed up and the cycle continued she was worse than fred in my opinion with some of her acts and kray twins are iconic its crazy how they have become like the film says legends

[@rachelbirchall4630]

David Tennant played Dennis Neilson in a crime drama called Des & it's a one to watch

[@emneeson]

That's a fantastic show. Tennant is amazing. He looks so much like him in it

[@bexyweewaggys]

Not only did they miss Myra Hindley and The Killers of Jamie Bulger but they also forgot to mention Thomas Hamilton you know that guy that shot dead 16 children aged 5 and their teacher in Dunblane?!

[@mattymcnally]

I remember hearing that rose west was diagnosed with cancer and told if she continues to smoke she would die, that news was made public and the public responded by sending cigarettes to her in prison

[@chucky2316]

That was myra

[@faithpearlgenied-a5517]

Think that was Hindley.

[@Will-nn6ux]

I think the thing is that doctors' patients die ordinarily, and it isn't necessarily obvious if a handful of extra patients die every year.

[@rupert8211]

One of the reasons that the Shipman murders went undiscovered for so long was the procedure around death certificates. Previous to this case, certificates would be signed by one doctor only meaning Shipman was able to 'sign off' the deaths of his own victims without scrutiny of the circumstances (because the victims were elderly they were generally accepted as 'expected' deaths). Nowadays, due to reform brought about because of the case, death certificates must be signed by two doctors.

[@owenoneill5955]

A guy worked for me for years who was Fred West's best mate. He would never accept that his mate could do all that. I had to send him off to Scotland on a job, as the police and press were permanently at my factory doors trying to interview him.

[@djs98blue]

I grew up near Gloucester where Fred west lived. His house on 25 Cromwell street was demolished after the events and if you look on google earth now there is a gap in the line of house that’s been turned into a path and public garden. Their surviving children were given new names and homes.

[@thepickledpixie9052]

A couple of serial killers that haven't been mentioned in the comments yet - Robert Black and Peter Tobin. Responsible for several very high profile cases of missing kids. They were both caught many years later and remains recovered. Tobin moved around a lot and is a particularly interesting case to dig into.

[@iainansell5930]

yah, he started off as a taxi driver up in scotland and eventually got caught down in the south east after a body was found buried in a house he used to live- from what i remember...a bit hazy... for a while, went around in a camper with a friend to pick up women?

[@thepickledpixie9052]

@@iainansell5930 Aye Vicky Hamilton and Dinah Nichol were found many years later buried in Tobin's garden down south. I'm Scottish and I remember the massive police hunt and reconstructions for Vicky. She was a couple of years younger than me. He wasn't caught till he was in his 60s after he murdered Angelika Kluk in a church in Scotland and went on the run. He also served time for the rape of 2 teenagers and police believe there were most likely more victims. There were also rumours he may have been Bible John who murdered women at the Barrowlands in Glasgow in the '60s.

[@matthill3293]

My grandad's brother knew The Kray twins' other brother and apparently (I never met that side of the family much) said that he was much harder than the twins and unlike his brothers, he didn't get other people to do his dirty work and he just loved fighting.

[@katiperry8533]

OOOh ... one of my favourite topics! I used to live just down the road fron the house Mary Cotton lived in

[@Rachel_M_]

Hi Steve and Lindsay. What changed in the 1980's?? We invented the process of DNA fingerprinting in the 1980's. DNA fingerprinting was first used in forensic science in 1986 when police in the UK requested Dr. Alec J. Jeffreys, of University of Leicester, to verify a suspect's confession that he was responsible for two (crimes deleted for algorithm) . Tests proved that the suspect had not committed the crimes.

[@jessieb7290]

They then started using it in the FBI as well as developing other things like Mitochondrial DNA.

[@tamielizabethallaway2413]

Very true... it's amazing how many Americans presume they first developed it. Another thing we taught them is detection dog training. In fact the trainer who had Eddie and Keela, two dogs used to find Madeleine McCann's blood and DNA all over that apartment she was abducted from...🙄 (The same trainer and dogs that the McCann's and their friends in high places tried to discredit) he went over to America to train the FBI search dog handlers. I could be wrong on the figures, but I believe it's 50% of the world's scientific breakthroughs and research come from the U.K. 😘

[@white-dragon4424]

All these inventions and just look at the state of the country. Has to be the politicians at fault.

[@Rachel_M_]

@@tamielizabethallaway2413 I almost became a forensic scientist when I left school years ago. I've had a general interest in police technology ever since. Did you know they have a whole reaeearch and development department? with many many patents? The US have only started using ANPR in recent years, paying us for the licence to use it. They're still on first generation. We're using the second generation advanced ANPR (incorporates facial recognition, can auto track vehicles routes etc.) We're developing the third generation at the moment. You would not believe the surveillance and eavesdropping equipment we have in use. West midlands police got in trouble a few years ago for using their vehicle based mobile phone repeater masts to mass record mobile phone communications in local areas without warrants. This Ultimately led to the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act under Theresa May. Like I said, a bit of a geek on this stuff 😁

[@jessieb7290]

@@tamielizabethallaway2413 yeah I’ve heard that too. I believe ya. Britain also invented penicillin, you everyone who’s ever needed pain relief, you’re welcome 🤣 I saw that documentary where they showed the sniffer dogs at the apartment of the McCanns, it’s crazy to think that wasn’t believed or looked into properly. It reminds me of the OJ case and how the smallest thing can be overlooked, but if the police don’t do their properly in the first place, then it all goes to hell the killer gets away with it.

[@sarahwhittle4868]

Last year I saw Joanne Dennahy at our local hospital. She had 12 police officers and prison staff escorting her to and from the hospital. She is the Peterborough ditch murderer. She murdered 3 men and is serving life without the possibility of parole!

[@Cattabushi]

i live in county durham where mary ann cotton lived, when I was young, kids used to sing a well know ryme about her for decades after she died, "Mary Ann Cotton, she's dead and forgotten, Lying in bed with her bones all rotten. Sing, sing, what can I sing? Mary Ann Cotton, tied up with string."

[@AnneDowson-vp8lg]

My dad comes from West Auckland in County Durham and used to point out the house of Mary Ann Cotton when we passed it. He taught me the rhyme about her, but I never knew the full story until I saw the TV programme.

[@cyberash3000]

bronson was super violent and super strong, as he could lift and throw a fridge, and bend prison bars

[@55tranquility]

Shipman's victims were all elderly and vulnerable people who trusted him as their doctor. He would administer high doses of painkiller usually diamorphine, he was flagged by a number of people including the coroner who was concerned about the number of cremation forms he was asked to countersign. A local taxi driver also raised concerns in that the amount of seemingly healthy patients he took to hospital later died and were all under Shipman. But typically the police didn't do a very good job of investigating it . The daughter of his last victim, uncovered that he had changed her mothers will so all her money went to him, the solicitor urged her to go to the police which ended in his arrest. Bronson is different as literally all his violent crimes were while he was in prison against guards and other prisoners and prison staff. He has a history of taking hostages in prison, which considering he was initially sent to prison for petty theft and then armed robbery - has through his behaviour in prison, managed to spend pretty much his entire life behind bars.

[@daveofyorkshire301]

You've missed an awful lot of films if you don't know Charles Bronson the actor.

[@sharonmartin4036]

The actor Charles Bronson has no connection to the criminal of that name just in case someone gets the idea that its the same. My favourite Charles Bronson movies were the "death Wish" series.

[@Bakers_Doesnt]

@@sharonmartin4036 Jeff Goldblum's first movie!

[@sharonmartin4036]

@@Bakers_Doesnt He briefly appeared as a protester in the made for TV movie Columbo: A Case of Immunity in 1974 or 1975 I think. But you are right, Death Wish was his 1st big screen film.

[@Bakers_Doesnt]

@@sharonmartin4036 Columbo was 1975 and Deathwish was 1974, but who cares? 😊

[@sharonmartin4036]

@@Bakers_Doesnt Sure, what's a year between pals? Have a lovely day. 😄

[@TheJaxxT]

Fun fact regarding the Yorkshire ripper… during his reign of terror, some tapes were sent into the police station claiming to be the ripper, and this man had a Geordie accent. Well.. both my parents are Geordies, and my dad had black hair, and the same facial hair as the ripper. And they moved to Manchester (not too far from Yorkshire) around the same time the killings began. My dad was questioned as he fit the description. Obviously he wasn’t the killer and those tapes were found to be a hoax. But yeah… my dad was a suspect for a very short period of time. Even his own best friend asked him “if it’s you, you’d tell me right?”

[@geoffpoole483]

Yorkshire police did a very poor job of investigating the Ripper murders. Sutcliffe was interviewed nine times by police. It was a routine traffic matter that caught Sutcliffe. He was in his car with a woman and asked police if he could have a pee. One of the officers had a hunch something was amiss and went back to the site where Sutcliffe had supposedly had a pee and found a hammer.

[@dogwithwigwamz.7320]

I was a boy living in Barton on Humber at the time with my mother and father - and almost the exact same set of circumstance arose. My father was of similar age to Sutcliff, had thick, dark shoulder lenght hear and the beard. We had a knock on our door one early January evening from the police - and asking to speak with father. West Yorkshire Police were slated for some parts of their investigations, but they cast their nets wide. Barton is about 70 miles away from Leeds / Bradford / W. Yorkshire. What some people may regard as casting too widely others, I`m sure, would call it `thorough.`

[@gillgill6095]

​@@geoffpoole483One of his victims that survived told the police he had a Yorkshire accent but was discounted because of the hoax Geordie tape.

[@TheJaxxT]

I personally don’t know much regarding the Yorkshire ripper case… regarding the investigation. But in a strange way, I’m glad to hear my dad wasn’t the only one who went thru this! I don’t like the idea of anyone being wrongly accused/questioned but at least my dad wasn’t on his own. God that makes me sound like a horrible person. It must’ve been a terrifying time for all

[@Magenta80]

I wouldn’t say these are the top ten but definitely in the top 100. So many missing off this list that I would regard is even worse such as moors murders, The James Bulger murder and The Soham murders just to name a few. Plus you best to google the crimes because these did not explain the true horror story behind these top 10.

[@ivylasangrienta6093]

I've often wondered what was in the water back in the 70's as well. So prevalent. Also, Amelia Dyer (the baby farmer) did her murders in the Victorian era. She was hanged in 1896.

[@jessieb7290]

The internet states she was hanged in 1873, in Durham.

[@ivylasangrienta6093]

@@jessieb7290 Google said 1896.

[@conversemackem8653]

Another great post from your channel guys. Thank you.

[@gyver8448]

Shipman got away with it for so long because he targetted people who were expected to die soon anyway. So when they died, no one thought it was odd. It was only when they started looking closer that they realized he has murdered them.

[@Zanockthael]

I imagine that Lucy Letby would be on this list if it was made today. She was a nurse who killed at least seven babies under her care and attempted to kill at least seven more, between 2015-2016. She wasn't convicted till 2023 though and the video was made in 2019.

[@onlyme6362]

I followed this closely she is horrific and the fact that she has made like minded friends in prison is a disgrace makes my blood boil.

[@thephotographyjunkie462]

Harold shipman was a family doctor and most of his victims were elderly

[@debbielough7754]

My husband is convinced Nilsen tried to pick him up when he (my husband) was hitch hiking as a teenager. He said something was off about him, so he made some excuse and turned down the offer of the lift. Bronson was extremely violent. He attacked other prisoners, took multiple prisoners and prison staff hostage, made a spear out of a broom and a bottle, tried to murder other prisoners...

[@reactingtomyroots]

Man, that's scary! Glad he listened to his intuition on that one.

[@debbielough7754]

@@reactingtomyroots Me too!

[@AmaanStorm]

I have always lived in West Yorkshire so im well versed on the Yorkshire Ripper. Its part of the local lore. I remember when I was a teen, my mum telling me about him and how terrified the local women were when he just started randomly attacking women. My mum recalled going to the local Post Office to pay a bill at the time and it started to get around that he was watching a local school, and stalking women in the area. My mum said the fear that they all felt when the news spread was overwhelming and she didn't leave the house unless she really had to. He was caught a few months after I was born and was held and being questioned in the local police station (which was literally a few hundred yards from our home at the time).

[@Tommy-he7dx]

Any book that claims a 100% statistic, has doubtful research. Not Every serial Killer in History had an abusive childhood, Unless you change what is called as Abuse. A very large percentage would have suffered some kind of childhood Abuse or Trauma, but to claim that they ALL were abused.....well i'd love to see the research notes as sadly there are thousands upon thousands of serial killers.

[@Rachel_M_]

Off the top of my head The Bamber murders springs to mind as 1 example of a family murderer coming from a priveliged family with no abuse.

[@jenny2tone242]

Exactly, I would add Joanna Dennehy and Jeffrey Dahmer to that. Both had reasonable normal upbringings.

[@kristinbur]

If you can find it to stream I recommend an itv drama about Mary Ann Cotton called Dark Angel. Also you will find lots of documentaries about Fred and Rose West on YT. What you found out in this short video only scratches the surface.

[@WandaWitch2800]

I’m a criminology student in the uk. I learned about some of these in detail and it can get quite disturbing 11:40 and yes this is true. I studied a lot of theories about why criminals commit crime and most of them are abused as a child or was put into care at a young age. Fred west was abused by his mother.

[@emneeson]

Most of them are abused, but not all of them. She stated that 100% of serial killers are abused. That's false

[@WandaWitch2800]

@@emneeson yeah I know, nothing is 100%

[@maureenmichel8761]

As always a great video ❤❤❤❤

[@jessieb7290]

Harold shipman’s patients were usually elderly women with previous heart conditions or something (mostly), he injected them with too much morphine or something. If I remember correctly. Then the son of one of them found it weird and his elderly mother didn’t have any previous issues. So he found it weird and flagged it with police. They started to investigate and found this happened to way more people. Yeah the Krays were twins. They had an older brother, but apparently the mum saw them as miracles and basically ignored her elder son, to show praise to her god sent twins! The older son had light hair and the twins had dark hair and she saw that as meant to be and saw them as angels. One of them got sick in their youth, and it changed the dynamic a bit….you can see countless documentaries/dramas on them. They (psychologists) actually refer (disgustingly enough) to the 80’s as the renaissance of serial killing. I personally don’t think it’s from having a bad childhood or being abused; some people who have both don’t become serial killers. Some neurologists believe some people have a pre-requisite in the brain.

[@markdale4538]

Harold Shipman was a General Practitioner they were all Different people he killed But mainly older People and he was found out because he was discovered by a forged Will of one of his patients.

[@geoffpoole483]

I think local funeral directors were concerned about the higher than average number of death certificates Shipman was signing, but it was the forged will that led to his arrest.

[@grahambtransparency9146]

"the worst type of criminals are the most charming".., your right most are politicians.

[@reactingtomyroots]

😂

[@karenthompson5965]

Mary Anne Cotton was actually very pretty and looked nothing like the drawing of her.which made her more scary as no one would suspect her.She looked more like the pretty actress Joanne Froggatwho played her in the tv mini series Dark Angel.

[@harryc8415]

I think I heard you say that Neilson reminded you of Dalmer. He is sometimes called the Scottish/British Dalmer. (Very good 3 part series on Neilson if you can find it in the States played by David Tennant) edit for spelling

[@thepickledpixie9052]

Tennant nailed that role! His mannerisms were spot on.

[@janettesinclair6279]

@@thepickledpixie9052 It is a chilling performance by David Tennant.

[@Thee_Penguin]

Moors murderers, Lucy lethby & and Ian Huntley deserve a mention (all child & baby killers). Not sure if you can get them but Netflix has documentaries about a few of these monsters.

[@davidabercrombie5427]

Also Beverley Allitt she was really twisted

[@wulfgold]

@@davidabercrombie5427 just like Shipman, they gravitated to position where they'd have opportunity and potential to go undetected.

[@geoffpoole483]

The video was made before the Letby trial.

[@claregale9011]

Lucy lethby was a complete sociopath , the way she acted on her arrest like she was at a mcdonalds ordering a burger completely devoid of any empathy . Now that's a dangerous person .

[@wulfgold]

@@geoffpoole483 but the comments section is open today :S

[@dobby9996]

Harold Shipman, the Doctor who killed 250 people, was only caught because he changed a patients will to give him like half a million pounds, but left her daughter nothing. When the will was read her daughter found it sus and the investigation began

[@samholford8958]

My partner's dad was a prison guard at the prison where Dennis Nilsen was kept. He would talk to him nearly every day and play chess with him. And it's unbelievable how close she grew up near the prison. Loved the video 😁

[@tamielizabethallaway2413]

Good morning my lovelies! 😊 Uh oh....is my mugshot about to be plastered across the screen....? It wasn't me....I was framed! Nah I'm a good girl! No fear of me being on here! 😊 Dr Harold Shipman.... most of those he killed were elderly women, not terminal necessarily, but elderly. The Krays asked my Mum to a party...she was 14! No she didn't go! But my parents grew up in the same area at the same time. I definitely believe that serial killers have a "look" so do paedophiles. I watch a TON of true crime...probably a MINIMUM of 3 cases a day. Hey there was plenty of good in the '70's-'80's ... I mean, after all, I was born! 😁 Love you loads guys! 😘😘😘 xxxxx

[@owenoneill5955]

You need to watch The Sensational Alex Harvey Band live singing Frame.....e...d. The correct pronuniation and spelling is.....Frame....e......d😊

[@ohwiseowl9163]

Miss watching landon, my dad was questioned over Sutcliffe same name same look ish and same job

[@huntylch]

I think I would've put the Suffolk Strangler (Steve Wright) a lot of people will remember that whole week where every night on the news another body had been found. Also the Dunblane killer.

[@iandrew6347]

Great video guys

[@petarnovakovich240]

Check out Ian Brady & Myra Hindley.

[@Ukcristy]

I went to the trial of rose west 🤯🇬🇧

[@fayesouthall6604]

Yuck

[@alisonrandall3039]

My maternity nurse was in the same class as her.

[@reactingtomyroots]

I can't imagine that's something you'd ever forget!

[@juliejones7358]

Harold Shipman generally killed his elderly patients, where no one questioned him because of their age, he also changed their wills leaving their estates to him. It was actually one of his victims daughter who challenged the will and when the police investigated, it was his typewriter that proved he had typed out the will himself. Wicked wicked man

[@palexa188]

I love that I recognise every single one of these names and now some details about the cases...it's all thanks to seeing so many true crime videos channels I guess 😅

[@wulfgold]

Fun Fact: Peter Sutfliffe was given the nickname "The Streetcleaner" by Yorkshire police as some of them thought he was performing a service by preying on prostitutes :/ It's a pretty macabre topic, but if it's something you're interested in, it's worth looking some of these people up on wikipedia. When you say 80s/90s as they heyday for serial killers, it's probably because before then - detection rates just weren't as good/eaasier to go undetected. Amelia Dyer was from my home town. There's several more - the murder or James Bulger "Jamie" - horrible, just vile. The Soham Murders. Whilst not a murderer - or convicted, Sir Jimmy Savile. Truly an outrageous monster ...mixed with MP's, Prime Ministers and Royalty. I don't know what shocks me more, his crimes or that he got the access he did. It's scandal enough that Mi5 etcetera clearly dropped the ball there..

[@littlewoodimp]

I remember the first reports of the murder of Jane McDonald. The newspapers referred to her as 'his first innocent victim'. Even after all he had done to them, those who were sex workers could still be insulted. Reading your mention of Saville made me wonder if Steve & Lindsay have done a Royals (surely Steve must have in the past I think??) and also the darker side of them. Not just from the 1950s to date.

[@lisanelson9979]

Something really horrendous happened in the last few days in Northern Ireland. If you are faint hearted don't read! A guy in his 20's was found nailed by the palms to a fence. His nose was damaged and his van burnt out and there is more to it, but I just find it.... no words. How can you do this?

[@chucky2316]

Drugs more like.

[@tarantulagirl666]

Wow! I haven't heard of this and I follow a lot of true crime stuff.

[@chucky2316]

​​@@tarantulagirl666it's always going on out there you muck about the community sorts it. Considering he's been left alive it's an example but no doubt he's been told to leave northern Ireland, if its drugs I have no sympathy sorry.

[@lisanelson9979]

@@chucky2316 Well the police suspect it is paramilitary. I really have no idea. If we find out I'll let you know.

[@lisanelson9979]

@@chucky2316 Just read... Apparently UDA did it for community misbehaviour.

[@stevetheduck1425]

Shipman specialised in treating old ladies. When he found they had money, he accepted money, stole money, and even was put in their wills to take their money. Then, in the guise of pain relief, he would inject them with lethal doses of several drugs, which would not be unusual in an old, bed-ridden patient's bloodstream. Mostly, he was not even questioned after his patients died, as they were old, sick, and expected to die. Improvements in patient care records eventually tripped him up, and the cases they went back to and checked, proved he'd killed over 200, and perhaps many more. A comedy comic named 'Viz' in Britain like to have occasional comic strips of him: 'It's Doctor Shipman! He makes old ladies dead.'

[@finncullen]

Don't forget that picture of "The Black Widow" was drawn to illustrate a report after her conviction --- I suspect the artist emphasised the sinister for dramatic effect.

[@oopsdidItypethatoutloud]

Aye, they never make them pretty in them pictures.

[@geoffwright3692]

There are a number more who could be on the list, some of them extremely sick and evil. I'm thinking Ian Huntley, Thompson and Venables, Joanna Denehy, Myra Hindley and Ian Brady, Jimmy Savile, and arguably most sickening of all, Lucy Letby

[@chucky2316]

The scary thing is thompson is out there living his everyday life because he's kept clean. But he could literally be at the local play park or at the leisure centre.its horrific

[@chucky2316]

Poor Denise and family

[@sammieholehouse6480]

He lives in Australia with his husband and child. His husband knows what he did and hes excepted he was a child and hes moved on. Not that its right or ok, poor Jamie never had that chance. ​@chucky2316 And venables live on Anglesey for quiet a few years before he was put back in prison. There is no hope for him, as he keeps re-offendering with child abuse photo's. The key needs throwing away

[@chucky2316]

How you know he's in Australia

[@sammieholehouse6480]

@@chucky2316 because its been in the news

[@wolverine9787]

"Top 10 Scariest British Criminals" How is Jimmy Savile not on this list?

[@andysutcliffe3915]

Jimmy Savile was never technically a criminal as he was never caught, it all only came out after his death, despite the implications that almost everyone knew.

[@funkyphil]

I live about 10 mins away from where Harold Shipman was a Doctor. Local authorities had there suspicions about Mr.Shipman over many years but due to him having access to all health records he was able to cover everything up.

[@kj-dq7of]

We used to sing the rhyme about Mary Ann Cotton when we were kids, being born and bred in Durham we were told about her at a young age, she might be dead but never forgotten, thank you for looking into this, I found the Moor's Murders one of the most disturbing, bless all the children that died in the hand's of evil.

[@elainecampbell8227]

`How do two people who are so demented meet each other?' To find out, you could read up on the Harry and Meghan soap opera.

[@wulfgold]

Guest starring Uncle Andrew :/

[@chucky2316]

Yep Harry is nuts

[@chucky2316]

Harry traded for meghan jeez Harry my old son nooooo

[@tibsie]

There is a theory that violent crime was so prevalent in the 70's and 80's was because of the use of leaded petrol which began to be phased out in the 90's.

[@sarahwhittle4868]

Thanks to Peter Sutcliffe I wasn’t allowed out to go to the youth club cos my mum was afraid I would be murdered! I lived in York x

[@Trueo9re]

Dennis Nielson, he dumped bodies in a nearby park, a woman walking her dog found one leant against the wall. Another time Dennis left another bidy in the park in the same place, the same woman walking her dog found him. Poor woman.

[@heather.0476]

There's a growing theory that not all of Jack The Ripper's victims were Ladies of the Night. Instead, some are believed to have been homeless women, with some suggesting, due to the angle of their wounds, were asleep when he killed them.

[@cazyaz523]

Harold Shipman was a GP - your family doctor. He targeted elderly women generally who had underlying illnesses. Faked their wills so he got all their money and then gave them a drug overdose. He then signed cremation orders which were co-signed by another doctor in the town to avoid suspicion. One doctor questioned the number of cremation orders he was being asked to co-sign and it all started to fall apart.

[@graham.a.phillips2811]

I worked with the niece of 1 of Harold Shipman's victims, who was a nurse who questioned Shipman's treatment of her Aunt before she died.

[@thomasfrost3087]

Shipman’s mode of killing seemed to be linked to the fact his Mother took diamorphine when she was dying. The first alarm bells, I seem to recall, were when someone picked up how many of Shipman’a patients died and were being cremated as it was well above average but the investigation went nowhere. He was caught eventually when he arrogantly decided to doctor Kathleen Grundy’s will so that he got everything she owned after he murdered her. Initially seems odd why he broke with his usual MO as money never seemed to be central in his other murders. I’ve got a half formed theory that he got bored with never being close to be being caught and thought he would roll the dice and show he could outsmart the police and show everyone how clever he is.

[@KeplersDream]

Shipman was not like Kevorkian. He didn't kill his patients out of compassion. He got away with it for so long mainly because he was the one who made out the death certificates. It was only when the coroner became suspicious about the volume of cremation forms he had to countersign, which was unusually high for a general practice, that his crimes came to light. A relative of mine happened to be in Wakefield prison at the Shipman was there - for a completely different reason, I promise - and often saw him around, but didn't interact with him. It's strange but Shipman was supposed to be on twenty-four hour s***cide watch when they found him hanging in his cell; but that's a can of worms best left unopened.

[@joannechinchillin9405]

1. Bronson has history of repeatedly taking hostages and assaulting people in prison, chances are he'll never get out 2. No, Shipmans victims weren't terminal 3. Sutcliffe's first victim wasn't a sex worker

[@sarahealey1780]

Their are between 25-50 active serial killers in the US at the moment so it certainly didn't stop in the 90s.

[@chucky2316]

One is on the screen in Steve's area the police and fbi and atf are looking for the cap knapper. Sorry Steve it's the warped british humour 😂

[@BattlestarDamocles]

Peter Sutcliffe died in 2020 from numerous health issues. And he had suffered several attacks from other inmates while in prison, one of which blinded him in his left eye and caused severe damage to his right eye.

[@CharlieFlemingOriginal]

Moors murders taped the torturing. Those two should have definitely been on the list.

[@hellsbells8689]

In the 1970s The Yorkshire Ripper put fear into the whole of the UK. At first the newspapers and police didn't care "because he was only killing prostitutes". Then when he branched out and started to kill "good women from good homes" they started to pull their fingers out. I remember my Dad not allowing us girls out at night unless he had taken us there and would be sat outside waiting to pick us up after the School Disco had finished. My step-mother got the same rule to follow too. Never be alone and no going out at night unless you had to and Dad would drive her. As police realizes The Yorkshire Ripper was committing crimes in different but near by places, truck drivers became one of the possible jobs that could take the killer back and forth. My Dad was a trucker in the East Midlands, so not close by but only a couple of hours away from where it was happening. When a car was reported to be a possible match for the killer's, it was all over the papers. The men at my Dad's place of work called the Tip-line on one of their work colleagues. He was a trucker, he was "weird", drove the same sort of car and could have been in the area of the crimes. The guy was interviewed by police and released but that is how bad it was. People were looking at men they knew and wondering "is it him?" There is a great documentary on KZbin about how the police investigated him. Using Note cards with a filing system because there were no computers, the women police officers did all the cross checking/filing. The files became so heavy that they had to reinforce the floorboards of the rooms they were in. It also shows how the police got things totally wrong and that allowed others to be killed. Check out Manhunt - The Yorkshire Ripper on KZbin. No Safe For Children.

[@user-cx1mv8fl5e]

The old ways should be brought back for punishments for certain crimes.

[@And.Drew.]

Harold Shipman was an English general practitioner (GP).Shipman targeted vulnerable elderly people who trusted him as their doctor, killing them with either a fatal dose of drugs or prescribing an abnormal amount.