Amethyst Grenade Outriders doomstack- Total war Warhammer 3

[@SimplyDoomSlayer]

I didn’t think anyone would ever manage to surpass ikit for the fun factor, but they managed to pull it off. Elspeth’s faction is ikit perfected

[@AndrewAspiringGamer]

I'm just getting started with a modded campaign for her and I'm having a good time

[@DioSatyaloka]

wHO GAVE THE AVALANCHE MORTARS TO NULN?!!!

[@Bogdanila]

Send this to legend 😆😆😆 Saw his video in your other doom stack, keep it up you are doing a great job

[@CultistOfkhorne]

Thanks!

[@Marcsansum]

i 2nd this, get it to legend :)

[@Someguy4321]

Yeah, usefulness of range does fall off for units that are already not super-accurate. These are best off as a powerful addition to an army, rather than a stack. Sort of like wizards; you micro them to do lotsadamage while the rest of the army survives or shoots or does whatever that doesn't require much micro.

[@Fernthe_plant]

Idk looked pretty accurate to me lol

[@Trypragmatic]

Accurate enough. Elevation causes some odd issues. But that's with everything.

[@CultistOfkhorne]

Satisfying moments: 07:19 08:06 09:29 10:24 13:25 14:06 14:39 16:11 18:38

[@jimbob4447]

I nutted straight through my pants at each of these timestamps.

[@tiburonpereze]

this is the most fun doomstack you showe so far!! cant wait to try it

[@Croltown]

this goes into the book. mark my words!

[@mrthreedaysgrace100]

I would love to see a few of these added into the outrider doomstack

[@CultistOfkhorne]

I think it might make it a bit too micro intensive, but you could definitely do that.

[@Quantorful]

This army would be better if you had 2 or 3 fewer amethyst outriders, 2 or 3 fewer engineers, and replaces them with 5 or 6 regular outriders. That would solve the single entity problem. Grenadiers for infantry, rifles for monsters. Also, the army genuinely would have done better if you'd had them on fire at will most of time. You had plenty of range, and were sacrificing efficiency by having too many of them target the same unit. They're fast enough to easily get away, and if they need to hide just have them face away.

[@playerioik6101]

you should try this variant and the send the best performance one to Legend

[@mattm7007]

That wording says for each army you have, Elspeths army can have an extra 3 Amephysts in it. She can have 3 to start. So 2 armies total, +3. 3 armies, +6. 4 armies, +9 Amethyst units allowed in Elspeth's army.

[@mattm7007]

Also, some dwarf units have native spell resist and missile resist. That's why you do much less damage to some.

[@CultistOfkhorne]

I have 20 armies in that campaign and Elspeth can still only have 8 units, as in it increases her limit by 3. It's ether the case of poor wording, or they did want to add it for every army and then they changed their mind about it so they just added the faction leader part.

[@mattm7007]

@@CultistOfkhorne yeah that's just really badly written then.

[@AndrewAspiringGamer]

Thank you, I was wondering about that. I'm not that far into the campaign.

[@R3GARnator]

Imagine going up against an army of treemen with this. RIP.

[@Trypragmatic]

Try it. It may work

[@maxisses2709]

I mean the 9 engineers can easily snipe treemen.

[@samueldisturbing761]

@@maxisses2709 outriders with grenades also dont suck against SE

[@maxisses2709]

@@samueldisturbing761 Fair, especially if they're huge, slow targets

[@botep5529]

Saw legend play your outrider doom stack. I hope he showcases this one too. Keep up the good work!

[@littlecoldhands]

Now all we need is to mod in snipe. 🤣 Also, I put weapons on engineers which give magical attacks. It ignores physical resistance so they take out lords faster.

[@Loneaxe]

I have to try it tonight when i get home after work.

[@kaa-or6kj]

I can see that CA is really dying to sell this DLC,back in the day ,this kind of crazy stuff wont happen

[@eshaan570]

who cares, the ai never builds these kind of armies, whats the problem if there are some op units the player can use in the lategame in a singleplayer game

[@robinekhoodekful]

*wouldn’t happen

[@simpleman3898]

This is the point of the game. The DLC is wonderful

[@solidcobalt]

Every amethyst unit type is a doomstack in its own way. Ive had several amethyst ironsides get charged by multiole units of grail knights, kill most before they got there, and beat the rest in melee lol without losing a model lol

[@tomayto70]

I wonder if an engineer doomstack could take on a thunderbarge doomstack. They're small enough to dodge most of the projectiles. Kind of hard to dodge spears of grungni, though...

[@CultistOfkhorne]

I mean they just killed Thorek with 90% resistances to them, so adding 8 more making them even stronger, I think they could yeah.

[@Bassario]

You of course can recruit multiple faction leaders as the game goes on, especially easy with empire since they confederate easily. The wording could be improved but it does make sense because of what they put in the brackets.

[@CultistOfkhorne]

A legendary lord isn't a faction leader if you confederate him. So the faction leader is the lord you start off with and no one else and you can't have more than one.

[@Bassario]

@@CultistOfkhorne is that so? Then the wording is useless after all, I have never realized this because I never use them even after absorbing another faction, save em for their own playthru.

[@simpleman3898]

Yes that is quite satisfying 😂 "Dwarfs didn't used to be cowards". Anyone wound retreat after THAT 😂. Your funny

[@WarGamingTV]

THATS GOING IN THE BOOK!!!!

[@MAGS-ik5uj]

Alright, alright, fine. I subscribed, happy now? These doom stack videos are very enjoyable. Much appreciated

[@CultistOfkhorne]

Glad you like them!

[@JW-452]

per army/per faction leader im guessing has to do with how the game words things, or it may have just been bad working for the ability,it will probaby get edited in the next update, since that updaate will be changing the default amounts amathyst and then giving research to increase them.

[@guilliandussart7802]

Havent seen the rocket battery mini purple suns in action yet :s

[@CultistOfkhorne]

Soon :D

[@Thealmity1]

What would happen to the army if Elspeth were to die and you replaced her with an engineering lord?

[@CultistOfkhorne]

HAHAHA, you fing genius, it works now I can have a Hochland scopes lord leading the army! Also you don't have to get her wounded, you can just respec her.

[@Thealmity1]

@@CultistOfkhorne Hell yeah! I know what I'm doing when I get home!

[@roslolian11]

They cant shoot in the air? But they dont have the red tool tip saying they cant hit air units.

[@CultistOfkhorne]

I haven't actually tried now that you mentioned it, but I would assume they can't.

[@panzerspahwagen527]

dude them engis can really mess up dragons

[@Marcsansum]

thats insane lol! nice one :)

[@sbartuk]

How do you get all those engineers? I've played 3 campaigns and only seen 1 scopes trait spawn.

[@躺分仔-n6u]

I guess he just saved a lot of these heroes and lords from other campaigns. And if you just save them at lvl 1, they're not that expensive to recruit.

[@landeler8888]

It is a bit time-consuming, but you just start a normal Empire campaign, play normaly until you can recruit a Master Engineer/Engineer with the scope trait, save them, then start a new campaign, repeat until you are satisfied

[@CultistOfkhorne]

Yup, exactly that just loaded them in.

[@sbartuk]

Cool, thanks guys.

[@TubeNewrome]

@@landeler8888 better if you start campaign on easy/easy. You spend more time waiting to end turns, then actually playing, but after 30 minutes you can farm lots of heroes

[@nicolasmatheus725]

holly, how do your game look so beautifull on campaign?

[@CultistOfkhorne]

Its mostly the highest settings, but I have seen it look much better.

[@playerioik6101]

no way jajajajajajj Legend will definetely love this army jajajaj

[@roichamelle5886]

Hi nice video, how do you get 8 amethyst unit with elspeth im stuck at 5?

[@CultistOfkhorne]

There is a technology that enables it.

[@Gamerlordpro]

Nice video !

[@CultistOfkhorne]

Thanks!

[@chrizeus2275]

Would be funny to see Legends reaction to this since he already gave the thunderbarge doomstack 12/10 and quoted it 'the best currently possible doomstack in game'. This right here has way more damage and utility

[@robinekhoodekful]

Untrue. This has literally 0 utility. It is only good vs infantry and cavalry, it is pretty bad against monsters, Monstrous Infantry and so on. Thunderbarges on the other hand can literally fight anything and win

[@Quantorful]

Not even close. This needed 9 farmed heroes with a specific trait to get this good, meaning it's a massive pain to make, and it would struggle against single entities. It would also have problems with flying or fast units because their aim isn't good, and they're fairly easily dodged. Even against slow dwarves their aim wasn't great and they were getting dodged. As Cultist of Khorne said, high elves with their many single entity flying units would be incredibly dangerous for the amethyst outriders. Yes, the engineers make up for that, but then that's an engineer doomstack, not amethyst outriders, and hero doomstacks being good is nothing new. The amethyst outriders by themselves are actually a somewhat weak doomstack since you can only have 5 of them in most armies (8 for Elspeth), and they struggle against anything with lower entity numbers. The regular outriders doomstack was far, _far_ better than this because it can wreck everything (single entity or infantry), requires far less micro, requires fewer heroes, can have more of the actual unit the doomstack is supposed to be built around, and that unit is super easy to get. Compare that to the thunderbarge doomstack. Go watch Legend's video, which was also against multiple dwarf armies, and compare. In this video Cultist of Khorne had to do a _lot_ of micro, compared to the thunderbarges which were just "move them forward, you win". The thunder barges require no micro, can kill infantry as well as or better than the amethyst outriders, can also kill monsters and single entities (especially with their ability spear of Grungni), are self-healing, have way more primary ammo, and their secondary ammo (the dwarves with grudge rakers) is literally unlimited. Against these same 4 armies, the thunderbarge doomstack could have just floated forward, sat there, and would have won with minimal damage. You can also arguably get thunderbarges more easily than amethyst outriders, you can get more of them in an army, more of them period, and they didn't require 9 farmed heroes with a specific trait. The thunderbarge doomstack is literally just "you enter then battle and you win".

[@imxgine2k732]

How do you get or do doom stack???

[@CultistOfkhorne]

You pretty much no longer can, as they nerfed Hochland scopes.

[@SkarsnikofdaCrookedMoon0013]

Hochland scopes?

[@CultistOfkhorne]

Yes.

[@babayagagaming123]

i think the description of the +3 outriders is just lazy copy and paste of coding/traits, there are a couple of hero's in the dlc that have traits that improve a "Lord's Army" as opposed to "hero's army" but the hero is not a lord so it has 0 effect, im assuming whatever fuck up happened there is the same fuck up in the tech tree, i think they rushed the dlc out despite pulling back the due date, and still ya get that type of shit, aside from those nit picks, been really enjoying the dlc thus far

[@CultistOfkhorne]

I am also very much enjoying the dlc, but they really need to fix the wrong tag on lords and heroes.

[@MAGS-ik5uj]

So in the cases you refer to here, it literally says “lords army” and not “accompanying lords army”? I haven’t seen this yet so I’m only asking for clarity, not trying to prove you wrong or anything. You are saying the trait of certain heroes doesn’t work because it tries applying the trait to a lord type character when it’s attached to a hero type, correct?

[@babayagagaming123]

@@MAGS-ik5uj correct it's trying to apply a lord type trait on a hero type character

[@Vladislavaklyma]

Bro, per army means that any lord can has with him only X amethyst units in the stack, come on

[@ChaosDe4d]

Honestly the way i read it is each army you field ups the amethyst capacity for your factions leader army by 3 units

[@Ebb0Productions]

Then why does it also say (faction leader's army)?

[@Vladislavaklyma]

@@Ebb0Productions because then it applys only to one army- one of the faction leader

[@CultistOfkhorne]

But it only works for Elspeth's army, so why does it say per army.

[@Vladislavaklyma]

@@CultistOfkhorne well, same shit with new nurgle heroes with "In Lord's army" tag. It is called wrong tag

[@aaronbaron3155]

Damnnnnn. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@samueldisturbing761]

This is disgusting