Amex Platinum THE Best Airport Lounge Card Ever?! | Are Airport Lounges Worth It? (pt. 2)

[@aslprobro]

I recently took a trip with a friend. He is kind of on a budget. So he pressured me into buying the cheaper American Airlines ticket instead of the slightly more expensive Delta ticket. Despite the fact that I have delta lounge access because Of my platinum card. We get to the airport and the FIRST THING HE DOES is buy an OVERPRICED meal at an airport restaurant. Then, on the flight back, he bought breakfast and coffee at the airport too. I’m like DUDE! All that money you spent is more than it would have cost to just book through Delta and get lounge access! I was pissed.

[@abbywilson199aw]

but with your crd, you also get access to any lounge. so why didn't you still go to one?

[@sdoubleu210]

i have to talk my friends through this all the time...even taking away the platinum card i have so many friends who will save $30 choosing a connecting flight over a direct and then spend $100 at a bar during their layover. makes zero sense

[@sdoubleu210]

@@abbywilson199aw platinum only gets you delta sky lounge access if youre flying delta on that trip (unless you have some other status with delta)

[@abbywilson199aw]

@@sdoubleu210 my point was, he could’ve still went to any other lounge the airport has… platinum comes with a priority pass that allows that

[@sdoubleu210]

@@abbywilson199aw oh I see. Yes, you’re totally right. Although I dont know what specific airport OP was referencing and many don’t have a priority pass option but if they do you’re correct it’s a great alternative.

[@TheLoungeLizardAir]

Great video! I love airport lounges, it’s why I review them. It’s no longer an exclusive or luxurious experienced, but food, power, WiFi, a comfy seat, and the biggest perk to airline owned lounges is onsite experienced agents if you have a problem with your flight.

[@Re3iRtH]

Hi! I've flown United easily over 100 times, however I've only flown Delta maybe four times. I'm wondering is it because they don't have a lot of international flights? I do have the Platinum card and I had no idea that this includes lounge benefits. United has awful / not existent lounges.

[@TheLoungeLizardAir]

@@Re3iRtH United clubs have improved greatly over the last 5 years but had very bad food during the pandemic. The food is fortunately improving again soon. For delta, depending on where you live in the US, it might not make sense to fly them. They have international flights but they’re primarily concentrated out of their ATL LAX and JFK hubs

[@AskSebby]

​@@TheLoungeLizardAir I think Polaris is amazing but UA Clubs are pretty meh. Staff also hasn't really been friendly any time I've gone, especially compared to Delta.

[@Anthonyjones-pq4ff]

Does ORD have a Delta lounge??

[@Anthonyjones-pq4ff]

How is southwest I hear that frontier is going too start fly unlimited pass Don’t know how much tickets will be

[@jrobertson37]

Went to Cabo two weeks ago for my birthday and love the ability to use the lounges instead of sitting in the gate area. Lastly, Cabos airport had two VIP lounges that I was able to access through priority pass. This access takes traveling to a whole new level. Thanks for video.

[@moderatorenforcement3001]

What level does it take you to?

[@earljaycaoile5071]

@@moderatorenforcement3001 I'd say at least level 10

[@moderatorenforcement3001]

@@earljaycaoile5071 😂

[@Anthonyjones-pq4ff]

🎊 🎉Happy Birthday Janice how was cabo Looking to using platinum card for that reason .😊

[@ambarturlui]

Something to take into account with COVID. A lot of the Amex Platinum accessible lounges and food outlets (including through Priority Pass) are actually still temporarily closed. Like the ones in Sydney, and in Bangkok. I was so disappointed in December and January that I had no where to go get refreshments before my flight, as even the regular airport food courts were closed.

[@Ron-qe4ul]

Hopefully Centurion lounges will get less crowded next year after the new policy kicks in. But Amex should adopt Cap One lounges "grab and go" food option

[@Turboguard]

I got grab and go food with my gold card at the Stockholm ARN Pontus in the sky Centurion lounge back in Dec.

[@AskSebby]

hoping to visit the Capital One lounge soon!

[@jefuryo]

yeah it sucks you can't take coffee to-go haha I started bringing my own coffee cup!

[@moderatorenforcement3001]

@@jefuryo cheapo😂

[@miremadmoafimadani411]

What’s the new policy?

[@MusicandTravel-2024]

Amex Platinum also gets you into Avianca VIP lounges, we used it in Bogota, Colombia

[@FlameMing]

I was just at Atlanta terminal B Delta Lounge(The biggest one in ATL) ~8PM. It was PACKED. Took 5 minutes to get in. and a couple more minutes to find seats. Talking to one of the workers there... they are busy all day starting this week. I guess post-pandemic travel finally in full swing.

[@linkzinvest]

I've had to wait in line in IAH and CLT for the centurion lounge. Once inside it's so crowded you can barely find a place to sit. In Houston they actually had a staff member walk me to a table as one became available. For get picking your own seat or getting any work done. It's just that worth it in my opinion. I'd rather grab something to drink and eat at a restaurant but they've taken that benefit away to.

[@BonkersAboutAlice]

Top tip...if no Centurion I'd suggest a Plaza Premium exactly because they don't accept PP so are alway quieter than a PP lounge. In Europe and Asia Plaza lounges are top quality.

[@kwfown]

Been had generally positive experience with Delta lounges. Spacious and decent food. Especially with airline credit easier with Delta. The only thing Centurion has going for it is the exclusivity, but it’s so crowded all the time. Hard to find seats, not so much with Delta

[@AskSebby]

Outside of specific airports, I've started preferring Delta SkyClubs for the same reasons.

[@deltamoney2742]

I know you mainly fly out of SFO but OAK has a lounge for you and 2 guests that you can use with your Plat card. They have some free selections of beer and wine (some are extra cost). They also have snacks like cookies and a small selection of hot food.

[@DattKiddFromSTLouis]

When I had the platinum, the nicest part was going to lounges that I could shower in on those longer layovers. Eat “free” food. Sleep in lower traffic areas. But now, I feel like I have to go out of my way to use them. Plus my layovers on delta are max 60min. It’s just nice in places like say STL where I could go to the pasta house when leaving the airport and taking a free meal. But places like DCA I just skip all that and head for the train. There’s better food in DC, free or otherwise.

[@NicksDynasty]

I am in sky clubs like three times a week. AUS is my favorite with the patio I love that card

[@RazorRoams]

Don't know if you saw this, Seb: platinum card holders can now access Virgin Atlantic Clubhouses in JFK, Newark, San Francisco, DC (IAD), and Johannesburg. One more notch in the card that's the king of airport lounges.

[@mikedelta987]

Was about to mention it too

[@AMEX4Life]

Sebby, your information is always on point. I subscribed to your channel last month, and your information has helped me tremendously. Thank you.

[@sorenstauss6052]

I still don’t understand how there’s no Centurion lounge at ORD.

[@PetersonBlanc]

Great recent video. Seeing how travel is starting to ramp up, I was wondering if and when you'll look to do a video on the best travel cards to apply for? This could be comparing different creditors, and or the same within their umbrella of cards; for example, a likely comparison of the Chase Sapphire Preferred vs World of Hyatt Credit Card vs Chase Sapphire Reserve vs Venture X. I am curious to know which is a better current and long term card to have based on your expertise?

[@AskSebby]

Most people cycle for intro bonuses => downgrade the ones that aren't a fit => settle into a system they like. Treat it as dating :)

[@soojoe]

Charlotte has a great lounge with southern food options and Miami is great to when it's not crowded. The best lounge is probably texas lounges IAH and DFW maybe its the space idk.

[@kylecopeland8]

I would love to hear how you conceptually value each lounge visit. For example - if you are traveling with a +1 you know you are likely to spend >$20 on food / drink for the both of you (being very conservative here) when at an airport. So in theory maybe you get $40 in value each trip. Do that a few times and that becomes valuable. I think this calculus really starts to change as most platinum card owners lose access next year.

[@AskSebby]

Yeah, I think it's really tough. My floor value is usually $5 (cost of coffee and like a croissant would probably be $8-10 in most cities/at the airport). $20 if it's lunch/dinner and I'm stuffing my face. $20-$30 if I'm treating it as a bar 🙃 (most craft drinks / old fashions run $12-$15 easily anyways)

[@michaelreeder15]

Greenville-Spartanburg International is my airport that I use the most, then Charlotte or Atlanta are my next most used airports. The Escape lounges at GSP and T.F. Green is pretty good for those size airports. Not because I'm biased, but GSP is a great airport.

[@AskSebby]

Escape Lounges have been pretty solid in my experience as well :)

[@shawnjimenez2078]

Great video, Seb. Been playing the CC game for a while and love seeing your explanations shared for other travelers to benefit. I remember being in Munich and not knowing about the Lufthansa lounge access, but still an amazing airport though.

[@imgonzalez]

I live in Dallas and went to Miami last July I honestly enjoyed both for the first time!

[@earljaycaoile5071]

As long as Travel Bank still works, I'm cool with the airline incidental credit lol. I got my full $200 yesterday, so it still works this year!

[@miremadmoafimadani411]

What’s that?

[@rene.s.s]

@@miremadmoafimadani411 Basically a Unite airlines gift card / balance on your account. Similar to Amazon account balance, that you can refill. Apparently, paying $200 with your Platinum card still gives you $200 credit back from Platinum airline fee if you chose United.

[@heyalexluu]

PHX has a bartender named Mehdi, makes the best cocktails out of all of the airport lounges I’ve been to. SEA would be better if it was bigger. Going to check out LAX next week! SLC is such a long walk haha

[@evanpierri]

Thanks for explaining the priority pass Restaurant situation. I was confused a few months back when other folks (non amex) got huge credits internationally but myself and a friend with priority pass amex's couldn't...

[@Baz35712]

Hey Sebby, love the videos. You need to check out the Mexico City Centurion Lounge. It has full waiter service, no buffet, completely next level.

[@JosiahGringo]

Extremely nice lounge, I’ve been to both of them in each terminal. Only thing is food isn’t free🙃

[@Baz35712]

@@JosiahGringo when I went it was free although they had premium options as well. The free options were delicious

[@AskSebby]

nice! it’s on my list to check out

[@centurionmx2703]

@@JosiahGringo Food it’s free in Mexico City Centurion Lounge.

[@JosiahGringo]

@@centurionmx2703 i was just at the Centurion lounge last week in the main terminal in CDMX, everything on the menu (QR) code had a price besides beverages.

[@cindyleeger]

This is so frustrating, I was stuck in FRA last week, flying Lufthansa, I had no idea I could have used a lounge there. The priority pass app was of zero help, the only lounges I could see were outside security.

[@thejokerspeaks]

Team Delta Reserve for similar Airport Lounge access, plus a simple companion pass to offset the AF.

[@liyev]

I didn't know you can go the delta sky club after you land. Thanks.

[@williamzimmer7293]

Delta lounge at Minneapolis st.paul is very big with free drinks. Will be there in a week and a half. Centurion lounge in Vegas is very good also. Will be there as well

[@davisfzg]

Great video, I think the plaza premium “pause” page showed an Orlando lounge but there isn’t one anymore.

[@FredSallam]

Great review! Love the comment about going to Vegas for the food! 😜

[@_iErik]

If you had the choice between going to a Priority Pass restaurant or stopping in an Escape lounge, which would you choose and why? How about a choice between an priority pass restaurant and a centurion lounge?

[@AskSebby]

Depends on my mood and the lounges/restaurant. Sometimes I'm itching for a burger and fries. Probably still Centurion > PP Lounge > PP Restaurant. Restaurant you need to tip. 2 x * $30 = $60 * 20% = $12. Not a big deal by any means but there's something about the "no payment technically needed" of lounges that is nice.

[@RichardServello]

LAX centurion is still closed. Make sure you fly delta if you want to check out lax lounge.

[@abayard11]

Thanks for the awesome content! Could you do a step by step video of how to book domestic flights with transfer partners? I’d love to see how to use my capital one venture x points to book domestically with american (or any other domestic airline) and get 2 cpp + in value. Thanks for all the great content!!

[@DonJulio949]

LAX IS PRETTY NICE! I went in when it had just opened and got a free Amex batter pack. Love these lounges.

[@fulim226]

Great video Sebby! Thumbs up! I do have a question though about Capital One Travel portal. Was wondering if the portal will be like the LHR from chase and FHR from AMEX. TIA!

[@cjjunkee8602]

Great video!!! I was in Frankfurt flying biz class, I was told I can only go to Biz lounge not Senator, only with status can enter Senator lounge

[@neildougherty4694]

Hi Sebby, new subscriber. Thank you for these! Have you done a video discussing the lack of decent lounges at ORD, why that is, and whether there is hope for the future? Thanks for any help!

[@coryhollywood6021]

Dude you are awesome! Incredible info

[@GL-li2pr]

I had an excellent history with Amex for 20 years with the last yers as a Platinum holder. After 20 years all of a sudden Amex slashed my crdit lines on 4 different accounts and doubled my interest and minimum payments. I was not in default nor had any other problems. When they did this all my other creditors saw the actions and followed suit. i went from being a black crd candidate to bankrupt in about 18 months. I had 25 accounts all in perfect standing prior to this.

[@jamesbaron3775]

I feel like there is something you aren’t telling us. A company doesn’t just slash your credit limit like that let alone multiple companies doing the same thing. Even if you are telling the truth, you also don’t go from being a Black Card candidate to bankrupt like that either. You have to be wealthy enough to even be considered for the Black Card which means you have to have a high yearly income. Even if every account was closed with or without your request, you would still have that cash flow to pay everything in cash or on debit, so how do you go bankrupt from banks lowering every single one of your credit limits?

[@hazeen]

Where is that listed (homepage) regarding amex and Lufthansa ?

[@ibdam1]

Nice review. Detroit now has 5 Sky Clubs.

[@AjSimmonsOnline]

Funny they suggest this video as I just got this card yesterday

[@toccoa]

It's small but the Escape Lounge in Reno is wonderful, certainly relative to expectations. Especially the food.

[@chrisbrown8748]

I fly dozens of times per year and I hate paying that huge AF but I find the Schwab Platinum to be totally worth the cost for someone like myself.

[@Anthonyjones-pq4ff]

Chris on your platinum card does it say Charles Schwab just courtesy

[@Anthonyjones-pq4ff]

I’m still confused on how to use a priority pass & the tsa or global part Could some explain it lil better thx

[@harrisoakley711]

As a frequent flyer, I highly recommended the Amex card. Will you make one for Amex platinum business card?

[@habitualgl0ckdumper149]

I’m shocked there’s not one in Atlanta. It’s the the busiest airport in the U.S.

[@Surfbird11]

Does the Amex now include Priority Pass restaurants? If not it isn’t the best. Those Centurion lounges are rare and only domestic. The best lounges are overseas.

[@BriscoelabMN]

Based out of MSP and agree the Delta Skyclubs here are solid!

[@Creamybokeh]

Our home airport has a Centurion Lounge and we fly a good amount so it's totally worth it for us. I'm disappointed with the Priority Pass lounge access in the states but if you travel to Europe it's a must have.

[@MarkReese]

Bigger question: Are you a Platinum Classic kinda guy or did you get one of the Platinum x [art] cards? 😄

[@NicksDynasty]

I have both. Classic and the Julie one

[@AskSebby]

gotta catch them all! 🎨🖼🌸💐

[@mikedevan2411]

@@NicksDynasty Same.

[@Aragon714]

Are they still available ?

[@MarkReese]

@@NicksDynasty - Awesome!

[@bobbysyed1]

I couldn’t get into Denver intl airport centurion lounge twice in 2022 due to over crowding .

[@Azar_Cruz]

Thanks for Info Sebby

[@JCROD5]

Went to DFW Centurion Lounge and I was not impress at all. Hard to find a seat and the place looks like an USO. On my trip back visited the Capital One lounge and that one feels exclusive with better food, service and amenities.

[@theresawong5126]

Is the airport lounge open 24 hours? Thank you for your time to reply.

[@blair7484]

How do you get into Escape lounges? Just with the AMEX Platinum card?

[@NobilityProduced]

With those airline market share percentage you kind of need to add the regionals to the mainline such as Endeavor to Delta and then "other airlines"and SkyWest get split up to the other carriers

[@ILGlocker]

How there is no Centurion lounge in Chicago O'Hare is a mystery to me.

[@BriscoelabMN]

Went to the San Diego airspace lounge last year and it was not great. Only option though when flying Delta there.

[@TravelBossNas]

Do you have a calculator for the Amex biz platinum? If not, I think it would be great to make one!

[@caporalx]

I went to Toronto/Canada and I was denied in centurion lounge. I was told that only card issued in Canada were accept.

[@Peter95111]

Watch your vids for reference all the time. I'm confused by the centurion lounge offer though. My benefits say you have to spend $75k a year. Is that to bring two guests with you into the lounge(?), Does that mean only the cardholder (me) can access centurion lounges free or do I need to spend $75k a year for that access as well?

[@kunalmishra9463]

I actually think lounges for the most part are overrated (with a couple of exceptions - DFW’s Capital One, Flagship First Dining, etc.) and are just not as good a benefit as a “blank check” at a Priority Pass restaurant. As I was flying out of Miami, I had the option of the Centurion Lounge or using my CSR’s Priority Pass to eat at the Corona Beach House and in terms of experience, eating good Mexican food at a legit restaurant for free wins almost every time, unless you’re trying to get drunk before a flight… in which case, have at it in the lounges. Is it the “best airport lounge card ever”? Probably. But is the Venture X/CSR Priority Pass meaningfully better than Amex’s? Also, probably.

[@wally8916]

Can you make a video on the apps you use to travel? I know there’s a bunch out there and I think it would be useful for your viewers

[@jameshan7803]

Sebby! If you have two or more priority pass membership, can you use it more than once on the same day? For example, can you stay at the minute suites for two or three times back to back? TIA

[@NicksDynasty]

There are 5 Sky Clubs in Detroit now I made an overview video of the new one

[@AskSebby]

nice!

[@NicksDynasty]

@@AskSebby It's TINY lmao

[@hannahmoeller2848]

I checked my Amex app yesterday and saw that it provides access to the Virgin Atlantic lounge at SFO. Can you speak about that?

[@donyakka5535]

What about if you got approved for a card but havnt gotten it yet. Can y still access lounges with a confirmation number for example?

[@lowridinboy2988]

Really frustrated with the now $50 charge for guests coming in 2023. I get it from a crowdedness standpoint. But as someone who's looking at using this card. The Chase Sapphire Reserve is starting to look more appealing.

[@pnasca96]

I was under the impression that you couldn't visit lounges after arrival? If you can, which ones can you, for example, delta lounges or amex lounges?

[@loris7964]

LAX has closed so please look into the options per AMEX not renewing lounge hmm

[@ja99ha]

New Escape lounge (centurion studio) coming to FLL according to Gary Leff.

[@tomwest2413]

Not in the F or G gates

[@kalmtraveler]

tbh I have never been able to use Priority Pass. I have 2, but every time I've not been able to use a Delta or Centurion lounge and tried to use the PP to get in, the only options said they were too full and only letting their own direct airline/lounge people in.

[@Jorge-ig7ku]

HI!! question!! how many guest I can take to Lufthansa Lounge with the AMX PLT

[@dwalker6868]

Thank you

[@jefuryo]

C1 Venture X has a better Priority Pass coverage right now, the restaurants. (I have both.)

[@bnguy]

Where can I find the percentages of airlines flying out of where? Like how you listed for the delta flights

[@AskSebby]

Most of the wiki airport entries have an "airline market share" section: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_International_Airport#Statistics

[@lvbadboy]

Can you use Delta lounge on arrival or just departure?

[@anasoft2002]

How to access the lounge do you just showed to them at counter ? Do they scans it ?? I have a fake one 😂😂 please help

[@FelixCervantes]

Yes it is the best card ever! I just finished my elite status challenges with all three airlines and for the last four Saturdays, I been traveling on day trips to HNL, JFK, DFW, and JFK again on both American and Delta. The days I traveled on Delta, I got to experience the Delta Sky Clubs. They had hot breakfast at the LAX Sky Club. At JFK, the Delta lounge was too crowded for my taste so I went to the Centurion Lounge which was less crowded and had excellent hot food. In the process of my elite status challenges, I qualified for American Flagship lounge access on international flights, and to me that is the best lounge out there, pre-pandemic, they had a chef carving prime rib! When I flew on American to Dallas, I stayed at the Minute Suites using Priority Pass, which is an excellent place to decompress. I do not have United Club access and when I was in Boston, that was the only time I had to pay for lounge access to the United Club, there were no other alternatives close by.

[@battle4truth701]

Centurion is coming to Atlanta in 2023

[@MattHD85]

What lounges are in Orlando MCO?

[@Momoko4ever1]

Is centurion lounge only available to platinum not gold?

[@VincentsfamilyCali]

thanks for the video, off topic but for American express card, can we get bonus again after 7 years? i know the term is life time but there are several post online mention after 7 years you can reapply and get bonus, have you experience with Amex bonus after 7 year ? thanks

[@juanfrasica1265]

I got offered an upgrade from the gold to the platinum with a 100k intro bonus as well a 6 month 5x on restaurants, grocery stores, and gas. I am very tempted to take it as I have a few trips coming up. However, the gold is my heavy user and after the 6 months and my trips I don't see much use for the platinum. Is it safe to upgrade, take the intro bonus, keep it for a year or 2 and then downgrade back to gold? Or will that put me on the amex list?

[@ardbeg9143]

YMMV but I did this and now I get the Amex popup

[@juanfrasica1265]

@@ardbeg9143 oh sounds like it's probably best to get the Plat and keep it or not get it at all then

[@gbyyte]

You can downgrade back to the gold after a year. You’ll need to wait until 2 weeks after the platinum annual fees posts though. They will refund the annual fee and switch you back to the gold. No blacklist. They may also offer a retention offer.

[@rene.s.s]

That’s a great offer. I’d take it since I already had 2 versions of Platinum. But if you didn’t I’d just sign up first and see if the upgrade is still there. As long as you have enough spend on both you shouldn’t get the pop-up, as far as I’ve heard.

[@aspoonfulofknowledge]

Great video!

[@gilbertnicholas1582]

I didn't know you could go into the Sky Club when you land

[@ketominer1016]

Are the amex lounges accessible to the business version of the platinum card? (I don't see why not but I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere) - EU version, that is

[@ow5966]

But what if you're a family of four is the platinum card a good option or the venture x from Capital One

[@gayleenkeamo8027]

Question My husband and I are working at our 5/24. If my daughter gets the American Express platinum card. If she puts me as a AU can myself and my husband use the lounges access without my daughter being there. She doesn’t travel with us to often?

[@TehzeebR]

We bare bears?! You won my heart Sebby.

[@andrewcohen786]

How can we as Platinum card users leverage them to give us better service like restaurant access using priority pass cards? Can you help us start a petition? I have been declined entry on many occasions and that leaves me with no other alternatives . Thoughts ?

[@Rolo555]

I’m sorry but the Amex Lounges are overcrowded, noisy, and hard to find a seat once you get in. I been in United Clubs in which it wasn’t crowded and most of the times quiet.

[@Kingtexaschaos]

Was thinking of getting this card, but then saw this on the Amex site: NOTE: CENTURION® LOUNGE COMPLIMENTARY GUEST ACCESS CHANGES EFFECTIVE FEBRUARY 1, 2023 U.S. Platinum Card® and U.S. Business Platinum Card® Members will be charged a $50 USD fee for each guest (or $30 for children aged 2 through 17, with proof of age). U.S. Platinum Card® and U.S. Business Platinum Card® Members will qualify for Complimentary Guest Access for up to two guests per visit after spending $75,000 in eligible purchases on their Card between January 1, 2022 and December 31, 2022 and in each calendar year thereafter.

[@gbyyte]

I wasn’t too happy about this either. Not the best solution, but if you add an authorized user to your platinum, they will have Centurion access as well. That way you only need to pay $175/year instead of worrying about my trying to hit that $75K spend for the year.

[@timpalmieri137]

Hey Sebby, I’m looking to choose between the Amex plat, venture x, or chase sapphire reserve (upper tier travel cards). Do you have an opinion on which one? Could you make a video comparing them? Thanks, love you videos!

[@rene.s.s]

Like Sebby said Platinum is the ultimate one card travel setup. Including Hilton Gold for free breakfast. Perks and credit at FHR. Uber credits that can be used for rides or food. But if you’re trying to minimize the annual fee and/or have lower spend then the Venture X is hard to beat. I’m adding it as my international visa credit card which is a must for AmEx travelers and it has the added benefit of Venture lounges and PP Restaurants which Platinum doesn’t.

[@tudorbig7448]

With the amex plat, are you allowed to bring guest(s) into delta skylounges for free?

[@cjcab3158]

Still haven't been able to try the LAX Centurion lounge as every time it has been closed. Miami Centurion lounge was ridiculously packed as well as the one in Sea Tac. The Seattle Centurion lounge was really disappointing and dirty when we went. PHX has the best food from the Centurion lounges I have tried. The best lounge I've liked was Alakas Airlines main lounge in Seattle.

[@RobertTaylor-mh8ih]

The Delta SkyClub is SeaTac is legitimately better than the Centurion Lounge at SeaTac. Big space, good food.

[@humble166]

What credit score is needed for Amex Platinum