The REAL Budget Raser - DSPIAE Siren Review

[@tedlonge8322]

When I worked in a factory we used chalk to clean out files and wax to clean out sand paper on power sanders to extend the life and cutting of the consumables

[@raymendoza2199]

powdered chalk or in some mix with water? I'm quite intrigued

[@Jontini]

I recently got myself a siren and i want to thank you for introducing me to it, it works like a charm, albeit as you mentioned you need to clean it alot

[@aMillaGunpla]

Awesome, glad you like it! Someone in our Discord mentioned it's easy to wipe away the plastic dust using a cotton swab, maybe that could help out!

[@RichardJRussell]

I normally use it in a push-cut style and hold it with my thumb on the back edge and a finger down the front. During use if it builds up some 'light' clogging, I can simply drop my hand and stroke it across my thigh following the direction of the cutting grooves (in my case this is back and to the right) and this removes it.

[@ndyoyo1905]

Does it polish the plastic also or does it just take off material

[@seanmalloy7249]

Another KZbin presenter tried pressing some model masking tape onto the cutting surface, then peeling it up, and it picked up all the swarf on the file.

[@azzuli2856]

Got my Siren today after watch your video. It's work really well, thank you so much!

[@aidentan6879]

Really appreciate all the contents you put up with budget users in mind. I just started on gunpla building and started off with terrible tools like box cutters and generic nippers. Thank you for going into all the details on how each tool work and how are they compared to the "best in class"

[@AnubisRacing]

First video I've seen of yours. Good video production man and great info! I'm a raser fan but I will definitely check out the siren now as I've slowly been becoming a big Dspiae fan.

[@aMillaGunpla]

I'm the same way! I love my Raser and have been a huge fan since the beginning. I still prefer over the Siren, but the Siren is pretty close at such a lower price. Thanks for checking out the channel!

[@brothergrimaldus3836]

Just ordered and received one each for my daughter and I. She's young and is still a bit leary of the exacto knife. So this was a perfect tool for her.

[@justinmorgan5073]

I know this is a year after this was released but I just purchased ANSAI glass file off of Amazon and you get 3 for $16. Used them last night and absolutely love ‘em

[@undying1177]

I use ansai a lot as well however one of my broke after extreme usage for 5 months on my gunpla building spree however the other 2 is still holding up and doing really well,if you build gunpla like a maniac don't get ansai otherwise if you are a casual gunpla builder even with mgex ver ka then you will get your money's worth with ansai

[@LauraDelvecchio]

I definitely appreciate the reviews here, I got me a siren on the way thanks to this. But I would recommend holding the parts still when showing the results lol. Moving them around while you're talking is hard to focus on them xD

[@emilioaguirre1634]

For the Dspiae siren I use dust cleaning gel to clean the glass file and it works on sandingsticks and sponges and cfbs.

[@sideswipe51]

Damn, this is the 2nd video I've watched from you (first being the Raser & Generic glass file) and wow I really appreciate the comparisons you have. Consider me subbed!

[@aMillaGunpla]

Thank you! I like to consider myself a connoisseur of glass files at this point lol hope the comparisons helped!

[@sideswipe51]

@@aMillaGunpla yeah I picked up the Siren after watching this video and asking a friend about. I was really convinced haha

[@TC25aaaaaaa]

Congrats for 1k subs!

[@aMillaGunpla]

Thank you! I’ll have a make a video for the giveaway soon 😬

[@ddx5769]

Your channel is STUNNING. keep up the good work, you deserve many many more views.

[@aMillaGunpla]

Thank you!

[@ddx5769]

@@aMillaGunpla all you my man. 👍

[@charlespinetree]

What's that thing called you used to collect the nubs at 2:37? thanks in advance!

[@TheRealTburt]

My friend gave me a 1/60 scale Barbatos model and I don't want to ruin it by leaving weird white marks all over it. I am looking at different ways to cut/finish models. I will look into these files

[@alvarosolorzano5405]

Hold on, there’s a 1/60 scale Barbatos??

[@devonclark1926]

What was that vacuum you used at 2:37 ? It looks amazing for keeping the desk clean

[@aMillaGunpla]

You can find it here! amzn.to/3k7UOgu I will say, it loses a lot of its effectiveness after the filters clog up, and it's not really easy at all to clean the filters because it's just a thin mesh. If you can, find something with a similar form factor with a removeable, or easy to clean, filter

[@bigbrainchica5473]

Another way to clean up the DSPIAE Siren, in my experience, is just to wipe it on a cloth and that usually works for me. So you can wipe it on your pants, or DSPIAE and even HobbyMio sells one of those Static Electric Dust Removal Cloth if you don't want to dirty your pants lol

[@qhaleezilhami2828]

Picked this up after the subreddit recommended me to do nipper cut,blade,then file with this since i have one of those entry nipper you get in a bundled kit. My denubbing looks so much better now

[@Dracobyte]

Great video as always!

[@SevyTld]

Nice review bro, also congrats again on the 1k sub!

[@aMillaGunpla]

Thanks Yves!

[@brandonadams6108]

I use the siren with a denture brush for its cheap price and stiff brushes, in combination with the gunprimer gray balancer. Denture brushes work super well at cleaning the siren. I do personally prefer the raser for its size and shape however I can buy a siren, a denture brush, and a pack of gunprimer gray balancers for less that one raser, and achieve the same if not better results. If I can save a buck and not miss out on end results that’s a win for sure. And I’ll add those savings towards buying more Gunpla or a godhand

[@kurararawr]

Congratulations for reaching 1k subs!

[@aMillaGunpla]

Thanks Klein!

[@Zeitgeist6]

I love the Raser but tools being over budget is a matter of discussion. I used to buy a lot of sandpaper and sandingsticks before I got the Raser. So that already saves me things I have to buy over and over. Then the model kits itself. RG and MG ones and up aren't cheap (at least not in my country), so investing in good tools you don't have to replace often and give you a good result is worth it imho.

[@spyroclone152]

I just got myself a raser v1.5 with a siren in the mail as a backup. Can't wait to try them out o find the difference. I've been using a raser+ for a couple of kits now and can honestly say that they're well worth it for sheer convenience. But, I do think I prefer the ergonomics of the 1.5 and siren a bit more due to their thinner profile. Only time will tell.

[@r.five.3]

Any update?

[@spyroclone152]

@@r.five.3 After building a couple high grades and a bigger real grade, I'll definitely say that the Raser+ leaves the cleanest finish, but the thinner 1.5 makes it easy to get into smaller bits. The Syren is definitely on par with the raser 1.5 in terms of nub removal. However, much like in other videos, the Syren clogs up much faster than the raser, which means I need to spend a little time (and a lot of scotch tape) to clean it out more frequently. I do like the fact that the Syren came with a case. All in all, I'd say that if you were to get 2 files I'd go for the Raser+ and the Syren as the two picks. The only caveat is the more frequent cleaning, as well as leaving some more apparent marks if used with poor technique.

[@r.five.3]

@@spyroclone152 cool, I actually ended up getting a raser 1.5 the other day, just waiting for it to come in the mail, excited to use it

[@r.five.3]

yooooooooo WHAT is that little hand vacuum thing its awesome!

[@aMillaGunpla]

It's exactly that! I just searched for "desk vacuum" on Amazon and picked one that was rechargable

[@Tommy-rf9sw]

Does the raser really produce a smooth surface after sanding despite being around 220 grit? When I even try to use a 600 grit or below sandpaper grit equivalent it usually takes off too much of the plastic. Perhaps, I am not doing it correctly or should I even compare the raser to sandpaper? Still surprised there’s not that much difference between the 12000 grit dspiae and 220 raser.

[@MSN-Byakko]

This is what’s left me confused idk what to buy 😅

[@phantomthao1514]

Oh dam, congrats on 1k sub as well, been busy lately with school and got finals so hella stuff happening so haven’t been making it to those live-streams

[@aMillaGunpla]

Thanks! Not a problem, summer vacation = more time for Gunpla, right?? 😍

[@andrewewald1994]

I always learn something new from your videos lol. I didn’t even know that the Siren didn’t have holes, the lines are almost similar to the ones on regular metal files. Also, congrats on 1k subs!

[@aMillaGunpla]

Thank you! Giveaway video will be up sometime next week 😬

[@tuck91]

@aMilla what is that white vacuum?!? Anyone know the brand model?

[@ImJCyo]

So here's a question for you. Between the two, how long do they each last before you need a new one?

[@epistarter1136]

Starting my gunpla journey and looking for decent nippers and hobby knife/file (do you need both?). Was wondering if I should get the sf16/sf17 instead of sf15 since they have narrow shapes near the end but don't know if its necessary and if you usually have really small places to file down

[@technohollow4172]

Thanks for the toothbrush tip! I actually was struggling to unclog mine

[@ceadeus1178]

I have both of them raser + is for the win because the Siren is kinda pain to clean the dust gets stuck a lot and the Raser + cut bigger nubs much better and faster.

[@aMillaGunpla]

I agree! The Siren is good as a budget alternative though

[@stevengrant3219]

What is that nub vacuum thing you use at 2:38?

[@aMillaGunpla]

This little desktop vacuum right here! amzn.to/3iVxWxn

[@megallanica665]

I didn’t even know there was a sander that did this.. im definitely getting one of those

[@alexh2491]

You've got some wonderful videos, and one of the few i've seen that have anything on the Dspiae siren. Im wondering though, for those of us using a godhand to do a second snip of the nubs, do you think this, or the Raser are worth using as a follow up? I've been finding that even after the godhands, i still have a little clean up to do.

[@aMillaGunpla]

Yes, they pair together nicely! I typically will cut until there's 1mm or less left of the nub, then file it down with a glass file.

[@bobbrossify]

No dude lol. There’s zero reason in snipping with godhands if you’re gonna file. Frankly there’s no reason to buy godhands period.. just get a decent set of single blade nips. But if you’re going to glass file the nub anyway you can snip with basically anything, the goal being just to leave a small nub to file off. I did a whole build with a siren and a set of bandai entry nippers just to see and it’s perfect. I don’t like the way this community is going of like gatekeeping newbies in to thinking they’ve gotta dump $100+ on tools to start. You straight don’t. What you’re saving with $60 nippers is time. Legitimately with just cheap nippers and a hobby knife you should be able to get a perfect build with a big of practice. Throw in a glass file and for under $20 I guarantee you can do anything all these folks who’ve spent $100+ on tools can do.

[@aMillaGunpla]

Well, to be fair, Alex had mentioned, "for those of us using a GodHand". I'm not telling them to get GodHand nippers--matter of fact, a majority of the time I recommend cheaper alternatives to GodHands. They asked if a glass file works well as cleanup, which it does quite nicely! Even GodHand themselves admits that there will be a residual nub unless the gate is on the edge of a part, and glass files are perfect for removing that last sliver of nub with a much less risk of marring the surround plastic compared to sand paper or a hobby knife.

[@angelohernandez6060]

Cool tool! I haven't built alot of Gunpla, I mainly build military aircraft, ships and tanks. So don't understand preferring to build a model without painting it. I painted the Gunpla kits I built. It just looks like an action figure to me if not painted and weathered. But this tool looks very usfull in my corner of the model building world.

[@NicolasCharretier]

Cleaning the siren is really easy with a clothe, in the direction of the « cutting lines »

[@seriousgamer6746]

I keep a clean micro fiber on my lap, and wipe parallel to the cuts when the siren gets clogged.

[@animousworks]

Which siren is this? I've seen a couple and have been deciding which one to get since i also have the raser 1.5 and the plus. Been wanting to get a back up for when i go and do group sessions and such.

[@aMillaGunpla]

This one specifically is the SF-15!

[@animousworks]

@@aMillaGunpla awesome thanks, just ordered mine 🤙

[@markandrewvelascocastelo9391]

Thank you man I always look an alternative for the gunprimer because I'm not that rich and I'm just want a sanding tool that not damage my gunpla

[@aMillaGunpla]

The Siren is the perfect budget alternative! Definitely better than the cheaper generic glass files

[@markandrewvelascocastelo9391]

@@aMillaGunpla ok thank you so much you save my gunpla to extinction tbh

[@lennardrannel]

Thank you for this. It has been very helpful. Im torn between choosing either of the two. Can't help but notice you prefer the razer over the siren? Which is easier and faster to use?

[@aMillaGunpla]

The Raser is my preferred. While the Siren is a good alternative, it gets clogged quicker, which means you have to clean it more often, and overall I feel like I have better control with the Raser!

[@lennardrannel]

@@aMillaGunpla going for the raser then. Ordered online.. thank you so much!

[@Philtho]

Always use masking tape to clean sanding tools, you don't want more of those particles floating in the air than already are.

[@kaiserstorm886]

I'm new, please explain this to me

[@emmanuelray2464]

@@kaiserstorm886 As with any sanding project, particles are sent flying into the air (drywall dust comes to mind) to land on anything nearby (your clothes, desk, other pieces, etc), messing up your paint finishes/ decals/ stickers or inhaled by you and those around (pets?). Inhaling plastic isn't the best and the dust from resin pieces is toxic to inhale (used in some non-bandai kits, and as hi-res pieces for modding kits when/ if you get into Gunpla modding/ customizing kits). Using masking tape instead of a brush or air to clean the file helps to limit the added dust by sticking to it and holding it. When a file needs a cleaning, grab a piece of masking tape and use it as you would expect, place and file and peel. Think getting lint or pet hair off clothes with tape or a sticky lint roller. Plastic dust=annoying and who wants more plastic in their body, resin dust=toxic use a good mask to avoid breathing. Also, if you plan on painting, look into cleaning your parts before you build (to get dead bugs, mold release off (kits can sit for months/ years in a warehouse); I use a little dish soap in a big plastic tub with warm water and an old toothbrush, then rinse with warm water with a drop or two of Finish dishwasher rinse aid to speed up drying time and eliminate hard water spots. To dry, I tap on soft towels with gentle wipes to dry, then leave for 12-24 hours to make sure they are dry) Finally, if you can, invest in an ultra-sonic cleaner for a final pre-paint clean to get off any dust particles left from sanding. I also wear nitrile gloves to eliminate skin oils which may be overkill, better over than under. Threw a lot in there, sorry just a lot of info I found helpful along the way and that made big differences along the way. Happy building and I hope this was handy.

[@kaiserstorm886]

@@emmanuelray2464 thanks!

[@Casket_Music]

@@emmanuelray2464thank you for being so informative

[@lehikot7600]

I get the most wildly inconsistent results with the two Dspiae files. Sometimes I'll get a perfect finish and other times they either do nothing or just gouge the plastic. I'm ready to throw them at because I'm getting so frustrated with them. Idk if I'm just filing wrong or if mine are defective or fake.

[@aMillaGunpla]

Try using lighter pressure! If you use more passes with lighter pressure, instead of few passes with heavy pressure you'll be less likely to scratch the part

[@mungcalamari131]

I got the siren and the only thing you need to do to clean it is rub a q-tip along the lines

[@aMillaGunpla]

I actually haven't tried that, but it makes so much sense. Genius!

[@JP-se4zn]

where did you get that little vacuum thing

[@darkcggaming]

Can I use the Siren as the only tool for sanding a piece? I don't want to buy lots of stuff just for sanding.

[@Gn.oommmm]

The siren you use is code SF-15?

[@DaedalEVE]

What is that little vacuum you used?

[@optimusplange1]

Misplaced both my rasers. This is a good replacement until the rasers show up after me looking.

[@aMillaGunpla]

Exactly, it's a good enough replacement, but I'm sure you're hoping the Rasers turn up lol

[@optimusplange1]

@@aMillaGunpla I’ve looked everywhere. I hope they didn’t end up in the bin. 😫😫😫

[@emopplrock1]

Bro you are awesome

[@bootlegfiguresyt6802]

Can it be used to remove seamlines on action figures too? Im tired of using regular sanding paper

[@aMillaGunpla]

I'd imagine so, but it would lightly leave some minor flat spots if you're not too careful!

[@asurajeff6316]

Im confused....don't sandpaper and file does the same thing??

[@mrcapcom9870]

I use a little ball of sticky tack to clean my glass files. I have both and the Siren is pretty good, haven't opened the Raser+ just yet but form your video sounds like you like it more.

[@aMillaGunpla]

If you have both, the Raser/Raser+ is a little quicker to work with and easier to clean. Overall, it saves a pinch more time so I prefer to use the Raser. However, the Siren works great on shiny clear parts!

[@affirmations94]

Is it possible to wetsand using these? Found out wetsanding reduces the scratches you get from sanding, and also don't wanna inhale any of the dust, haha.

[@aMillaGunpla]

Yup, should be completely fine to wet sand with either of these! The sticker on the Raser might start the peel up, but the cutting surface won't be affected at all.

[@affirmations94]

@@aMillaGunpla Alrighty, thanks!

[@Wopper1234]

Question do I really need a siren if I’m starting to make gunpla? Or could I just use sand paper

[@ChimeraSubject45]

You can absolutely use sandpaper. Glass files are just a luxury item that helps save time, but most people still use sandpaper as it's more versatile and can reach areas glass files cant.

[@xthetenth]

Do any of these glass files allow cleaning up transparent plastics while retaining their transluscence?

[@aMillaGunpla]

Yup, I used a glass file when building the Supreme RX-78-2, and it still retains the translucency. Still have to watch out for stress marks of course

[@xthetenth]

@@aMillaGunpla Thanks for this help btw, I wound up getting a siren and I've gotten a lot of good use out of it.

[@TrinityScorpion]

I understand that raser doesn't affect the surrounding as much when you file it and it only file away the nub. Does the siren works the same or does it affect the surrounding like normal sandpaper?

[@aMillaGunpla]

I would say it's a little closer to sandpaper, which is why it's important to keep it flush with the nub as much as possible!

[@remylordski]

great video

[@DTWARRIOR_MK]

Zup bro! Thanks for the video!😎👍🏼

[@aMillaGunpla]

No problem! Thanks for watching 🙂

[@Eisenschnell]

What kind of cloth would you use to help dull the glossy finish?

[@aMillaGunpla]

An old pair of jeans (denim) is an easy way to dull the gloss. If you have any old jeans, just cut out a small patch and keep it with your files

[@Eisenschnell]

@@aMillaGunpla Great, thanks for the tip!

[@caboose11795]

I just buy cheap glass files off of Amazon like 8 of them for 8 bucks and they do wonderfully

[@kramsogrub8104]

whats the brand of the file sir?

[@0MZetO]

Hi! Do you think I can wet sand using the DSPIAE Siren?

[@hex1c]

Would this file work for 1/35 scale model kits? Im not a gunpla builder but i like the different tools the gunpla community have come up with

[@aMillaGunpla]

I would imagine it should, as long as the gates aren't too thick after cutting off the runner/sprue

[@albertmetts134]

is this the Dspiae-SF-15 siren ultimate precision file #10000~#12000? im trying to find the right one to order.

[@aMillaGunpla]

Sorry for the late reply, but yes, this is the DSPIAE Siren, I believe the SF-15. They both should work relatively similarly, but the higher the grit, the shinier the finish will be in the end

[@asariugetsu8990]

Is this SF-15? Only available on the store near me is SF-20, is that the same?

[@aMillaGunpla]

I believe it's the SF-15! There shouldn't be much a difference, but a higher grit will leave a shinier finish

[@VF25A]

Hello, I have some, DSPIAE Siren, cleaning is very easy, it is faster with a cloth or piece of cloth like a shirt and it is ready to use, in less than 1 minute

[@phat_gunpla_etc]

Cool vacuum! What mode is that?

[@aMillaGunpla]

If you search "desk vacuum" on Amazon, you should be able to find a bunch that are similar 😀

[@j_tralala1888]

how about the durability? how many kits can you build with them before swapping with anew files?

[@aMillaGunpla]

Glass files can last almost forever, though I primarily use the Gunprimer Raser+, it is still as effective as day 1!

[@AkodoDidakku]

Hey, great video! I am starting in my gunpla journey (I have some experience with plastic as a veteran WH40K player). I am planning on not painting my models (only panel lining and decals). Are glass files a better alternative to traditional sanding paper/sponges in this case? My access to DSPIAE products is much easier and cheaper than the raser products do you reckon their glass files would be a good substitute for the raser kits?

[@aMillaGunpla]

Glass files will definitely be quicker and somewhat easier to use than sandpaper. But they're not so great for curved surfaces, so keep that in mind! The Siren is a great budget glass file, so I would pick it over a generic glass file any day!

[@AkodoDidakku]

@@aMillaGunpla thanks for the quick reply! I'm most worried about scratches and mismatched glossiness as I'm not going to paint over them, so my goal is to avoid that as much as possible. I guess I'll have to try different approaches and see what works best. Got a new sub ;)

[@TehDirtySanchez21]

are glass files to be used instead of sanding sponges?

[@aMillaGunpla]

They're better for flat surfaces, but sanding sponges still have the edge over them on curved surfaces

[@kevinendella]

you earn +1 sub

[@Jontini]

I know this might be a commonly asked question but do these get worn out and give lower performance over time?

[@aMillaGunpla]

I haven't noticed any degradation in any of my glass files, including the Siren. It's technically possible, but it will last exponentially longer than a typical standing stick/sandpaper

[@Jontini]

@@aMillaGunpla ok thanks, i was worried if i bought either the siren or the raser it would get unusable really quickly and be a waste of money

[@aMillaGunpla]

@@Jontini no problem! You can easily clean them off. For a Raser, I use an old toothbrush for like 2 seconds, and with the Siren you can use a cotton swab

[@ferdiepalacios2622]

what grit is this?

[@seanmalloy7249]

The listings claim 10,000 - 12,000 grit equivalent.

[@bpesicaljr]

Guys anybody know which siren is better? Sf-15 or SF-20?

[@TranThanhNam-qf8mu]

is it sf-15 or sf-20 ?

[@redzagaming9230]

15

[@jmerced0678]

ive been using standard nail file os im curious if its good investment or not if you have or anybody who have idea as to hoe many kits i can use this for example my main is MG how many before its unusable anybody who can answer would be highly appreciated 👍

[@aMillaGunpla]

I've been using one of the same Rasers I've had since 2020 with no issues

[@jmerced0678]

@@aMillaGunpla i see thankyou i think i want one aswell since im lazy to do the process of doing sanding step by step :)

[@Fumaru]

I don't know if ppl will see this, Just use a blutack to get the shavings off.

[@ernestgalvan9037]

Older post, but still… Pitting links to the tools you show would be great. Including that brush. P.S. it’s useless when KZbinrs say “no link, just buy a good one”… To which I would say “if I KNEW which was ‘good’, I wouldn’t be watching your channel”

[@rumilb]

Whoa.

[@froiedwardpeligrino8887]

Hi. Im new to this hobby and im learning too many things from your videos. Please make a video showing your full nub removal from cutting off the runner up to filing and polishing/buffing using godhand and your chosen file (raser or siren). Im still confused about the proper step-by-step of nub mark removal. More power to your channel!

[@aMillaGunpla]

Hi Froi, and welcome to the hobby! I actually have a video on this already, if you have any more questions after watching it, feel free to ask! kzbin.info/www/bejne/sHy5oYqlj8aVqpI

[@Kizzaru03]

its much cheaper here only for 5$

[@RemoteCamper]

Had to watch part of the vid just to understand what the title was talking about. Too many non-real words in the title.