AMSOIL, is it better? Join us for a Pre-Trip fluid change on our Harley Ultra Limited

Join us as we perform pre-trip maintenance at 40,000 miles. Included here is a link to a couple of great AMAZON finds that we use in this video:
amzn.to/3WpVkUN - An oil change kit with funnels, a specialty oil filter wrench and o rings
amzn.to/3hK4ih7 - K&N Air Filter Oil
amzn.to/3vgotpV - K&N Air Filter for 2014 HD FLHTK
Lastly, see what we've found using AMSOIL products in our Harley during this 3-hole fluid change that we believe means "less wrenching, more riding"
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[@michaelmitchell5909]

Should always run 75/140 gear oil in the trans brother. 20/50 is way to thin.

[@paullesho2693]

When I went to Amsoil in My 08 Electraglide the first thing I noticed was heat reduction. I now use Amsoil in everything. Sportster , Honda Magna, Diesel truck cold starts much better. Goes much farther between service schedules. It Is Worth it.

[@4ever2up]

It is absolutely worth it! Thanks for watching. We use it in everything, even our cars

[@revealingfacts4all]

you should leave the old oil filter in place after putting new oil in; over fill with the new oil. Then detach the oil return hose, put hose into a drain pan and run the engine for a few seconds. This flushes the remaining old, dirty oil, out and prevents dirty oil from contaminating the new oil filter when you install it later. I do this all the time. I run the bike until the oil return hose starts pumping out clear, clean oil. Stop the bike at that point, connect return host, replace oil filter and you'll be golden.

[@1974steny]

There's no need to do this on the touring models as they have a sump all the crap sits in the bottom of but the softails you can do that.

[@revealingfacts4all]

@@1974steny ok, good to know. Thanks!

[@rodgough4581]

Good one...I use Amsoil on mine after breakin, since new, change every 5k...buddy nad I had our bike at same shop getting maintenance and upgrades...My buddy has 6k on his bike, mine 80k. When disassembled top end and cam chest, mechanic noticed that my 80k bike, had no more wear than the 2 year old 6k bike. He was surprised it was so obvious. Well worth while. 80k and runs like a top...

[@angelolautchang9667]

great video presentation, I've learned something new today

[@fourftr]

Nice video. On my 2017 Road Glide Ultra the Dealer did all my oil changes with Syn 3. He told me stay with Syn 3 until my 2 year warranty expired. They also carry Amsoil. Right after the two years I went with Amsoil in all three compartments. What I did find which was a distinct shock was driving out of the dealership when I shifted into second gear it was effortless and smooth to the point LOL I thought I broke the clutch cable. Over 45,000.00 miles later still purring like a kitten. Can’t comment on if there was more noise from valve clutter. My view I’m not riding a GoldWing engine so that clatter sounds that people talk about, doesn’t bother me.

[@paultancraitor5844]

Kevin Baxter has a you tube channel he rebuilds Harley engines he says that when he tears down engines the ones that used Amsoil he could tell the internals were in much better shape than other oils that were used. I have used Amsoil in my riding mower and my push mower , cars and of course my Tri- Glide for several years

[@rodgough4581]

Trick I do is to fold a piece of aluminum foil heavy duty in half , roll it slightly and slide it under the oil filter to form a temp drain chute, then throw away. Safe trip...

[@trikemike7291]

This was a very educating video. I am on video number two. Can’t wait to see when you do the brakes. Keep the videos coming.

[@williamjohnson6517]

Im getting ready to do this on a 2014 Streetglide Firefighter Shrine and a 2005 Deuce. I always change at 5,000 miles. Motor, transmission and primary. I know overkill seeings a mechanic told me 10,000 for the primary and 20,000 for the transmission. I run K+N air filters and am going to fit FLO reusable oil filters. I also run love juggs ( mini mite) fans . The combination of the oil , and fans and the bike will never overheat in hot weather. The alloy oil filters is said to drop the temperature by about another 10 degrees. I run my 2015 Hyundai VELOSTER TURBO on Amsoil as well as my CTX Honda 700 . Hell my 125cc CRF dirt bike even runs on Amsoil.

[@davefreeman1499]

I ran shell rotella in my bike.The price was right and never had a problem.

[@4ever2up]

Shell rotella is known to be a quality oil too. Sounds like you found a good alternative to high dollar synthetics. Were you able to find it 20/50 or did you use 15/40?

[@danbrown5746]

If you don’t ride it , it isn’t warmed up. Beautiful bike.

[@4ever2up]

Of course thats the best way to warm it up!😄 We rode all day the next day and made sure to check the levels as always on the road😉

[@darrennicholas860]

Was a nice video I started having a bad day and u guys just calmed me down I guess it your calm demeanor 👍🙏

[@4ever2up]

Thats great. Ya we try to edit out the cussing and throwing of things 😂. Hope your day got better

[@PineRidge1997]

30+ years of Amsoil use without any lubrication failures. (remove your left heat deflector for 5-10° temperature drop.)

[@4ever2up]

Thanks for the tip

[@jdreyno1958]

Thanks for the walkthrough.

[@frederickking1660]

5/8 " drain plugs on my 12 streetglide.

[@johndingmansr.5895]

Thanks for the video! What are you using to hold the bike upright?

[@4ever2up]

Its a Black Widow Steel Motorcycle Jack. There is a link to that jack in the tire change video on our channel. Thanks for watching

[@johndingmansr.5895]

@@4ever2up thank you

[@jagjr6772]

In the beginning you mentioned a cooler running engine do you have those before and after numbers and how was that measured? Thanks

[@4ever2up]

Sorry no numbers to give since the method of measurement was using our legs as thermometers when out on the road.

[@richardrussell500]

Good video for newbies... next time consider showing where the primary fluid level should be. It is a good idea to let the filter set for 10-15 minutes to allow the oil to spread. Areas that are not completely covered will show so you can add more oil. The engine needs to be at operating temperature before making level check. 200-230 degrees. The oil pump needs to scavenge fully, otherwise you may over fill the case. Any hoot, thank you. These videos definitely help people service their own machines. Unfortunately for me, I found Amsoil caused a noisy top end. Running their primary fluid did improve my ability to find neutral. Their filters are one of the best on the market. If you do not have excessive crankcase pressure and your head breathers do not puke excessive amounts of snot, you can run your oil level up to one dot below full. If you have a puker, many people run the level midway between add and full. I run the Trask vented tranny cover and the DK Customs external head breather setup on my M8 107. This combination allows the engine to vent properly and eliminate snot into the combustion chamber. Running the snot back into the engine will eventually cake the top of your pistons with carbon and cause detonation. With this venting, your engine will rev and run better. Ride safe :-)

[@4ever2up]

Thanks for all the info and suggestions. Keep the rubber on the road 👊

[@richardrussell500]

@@4ever2up you bet... : - )

[@gregrose6915]

I found Amsoil really noisy in my 08 Ultra, switched back to conventional HD

[@4ever2up]

Thanks for the input. We have had nothing but good experiences with Amsoil. But everybody has their preferences and own experiences.

[@colinnicols5387]

Complete opposite on a friends twin cam who often packs a passenger

[@bradleyyounger8499]

Ive used amsoil for years now. I get my oil and filters straight from them

[@bigblue3568]

Since you had the primary cover off and doing pre trip maintenance why not adjust the clutch cable/plates?

[@4ever2up]

Just didnt get into that for this video

[@coreyyancey9272]

Amsoil only here! 👍

[@levievans9311]

Cool Video,Nice bike,Oil level way to high.Was at full and you didn't even have bike full hot.That oil will push out through breather hose in Air filter once it expands with real riding heat.Keep Wrenching.

[@michaeljoseph9881]

I use Lucas 2050 full synthetic the the chain case in the engine and Lucas 8140 in the transmission way better and last longer than and's. Oil no guy had ends well in his and they wouldn't warrant to his bike so there you go.

[@danielgaskell5490]

By ONLY warming the engine parked, you’re leaving any “junk” on the sump floor of your engine, transmission and primary. You must RIDE the bike to get those bits IN THE OIL so they drain out WITH IT.

[@fredfirsching8892]

Lucas 20w60 synthetic here in Florida is much cheaper and all 3 of my bikes run much quieter. I don't like the foaming that I could very visibly see with the amsoil in the oil bag.

[@jimmyf4603]

It's kinda strange how certain bikes like different oils. Put Lucas in my heritage and had to drain it out with 600 miles because of so much engine chatter.

[@maxxbenzz7842]

I had the same issue. Switched to Red Line. Smooth as butta now​@jimmyf4603

[@Dave-zy6de]

What is the primary oil viscosity that you used also the transmission oil weight?

[@4ever2up]

Thanks for the question. Harley Davidson recommends 20W50 for the engine, primary, and transmission. Amsoil follows those recommendations. So I would assume the primary and transmission oils would be rated as close to 20W50, they do state that the oils are made with specific changes to their viscosity and blend specifically for those applications. I searched the website and oil information and found the “Kinematic” viscosities but was not able to find a common viscosity description. The following is from Amsoil’s website. “For the record, AMSOIL recommends AMSOIL 20W-50 Synthetic V-Twin Motorcycle Oil in the engine, transmission and primary chaincase on most Harleys (consult our Motorcycle Product Guide for specific recommendations). “ “What are the Differences Between Motorcycle Oil, Primary Oil & Transmission Fluid In essence, Synthetic V-Twin Transmission Fluid and Synthetic V-Twin Primary Fluid are formulated to protect just one area of your bike rather than three. This specificity allows AMSOIL to “over-engineer” each lubricant for its precise application. Synthetic V-Twin Transmission Fluid has a higher viscosity than 20W-50 Synthetic V-Twin Motorcycle Oil. A higher-viscosity, or “thicker,” lubricant provides some advantage in helping quiet noisy transmission gears and enabling smooth shifts.” “Likewise, AMSOIL Synthetic V-Twin Primary Fluid is “over-engineered” to protect primary chaincase components. Its viscosity is like an SAE 50 motor oil. Formulating it as a straight-weight lubricant naturally offers an advantage in shear stability over multi-viscosity lubricants. This helps the fluid remain thicker, which helps it cling to the compensator without being “flung off” as easily for maximum protection.” It’s not the simple answer you were looking for but I hope it helps.

[@jimandnancymcoil]

@@4ever2up I've been an AMSOIL Dealer for 20 years, I am the AMSOIL Dealer for Laconia H-D , since 2010, my BEST Retail Account! Laconia Bike Week is going on right now, the 100th year! I've owned Harley's since 1967? I'd use 20W-50 in engine & primary, Trans= 75W-90 in Big Twin Evo, 75w-110 in Twin Cams & M8s,, & 75W-140 in Shovels & back! Stay Safe!

[@jamesstafford62]

You tightened that oil filter way too tight but you do it your way I’ll do mine

[@sfb1976]

What little stand are you using?

[@4ever2up]

Using a Black Widow MC-Jack Stand with 1100 pound capacity. Like it cuz its easy to use and easy to store away. Works very well and we use it all the time. Including a link here if you’re interested. amzn.to/3W1zyGg

[@sfb1976]

Excellent thanks yah is small compact and looks like gets the job done. Appreciate the link

[@trikemike7291]

By the way, have you ever change your fuel filter?

[@4ever2up]

Not yet on this bike. but its due for one so that’ll be getting done soon

[@ninja63639]

What jack is that?

[@4ever2up]

Its a Black Widow MC Jack Stand with 1100 lb capcity. Its a great litte jack stand and use it all the time. We’ve included a link here amzn.to/3WR4JGw

[@ninja63639]

@@4ever2up I appreciate that. Have a good one be safe out there

[@FlipandTheBlueMule]

BLUE BIKES MATTER !! NEW SUBSCRIBER !

[@roadglide1142]

I change my oil every 2500 miles I want my bike to last forever! New oil is cheaper than new engines! 😊

[@bradmagby236]

Funny how everyone wants to warm the engine up to get the oil to run thinner. Apparently no one knows what 20/50 means and the concept behind it Multi grade oil is thinner at cool temps.

[@frederickking1660]

I don't care how good it is at 22.50 a quart, I ll run something else and change it at 3,000 miles

[@billtaylor4081]

You don't run a cathe can.

[@johnmcneal3649]

U need a better air filter

[@4ever2up]

So far so good. We haven’t had any issues…….. of course we haven’t really done any major mods to the intake system either

[@wvbiker746]

Click bait. No word on if Amsoil is actually better. Just sales for the kit.

[@4ever2up]

It is mentioned and discussed throughout the video why we use Amsoil, what the claims are and what we have found in servicing the bike. No it is not summarized, but it is talked about throughout the video.

[@colinnicols5387]

If you ride a Harley, it needs Amsoil. Amsoil and HD have worked together closely for years.

[@wvbiker746]

I will admit after running a few VTwins to death over the decades, I decided to try Amsoil after changing the lifters in a 127 at around 6,000 miles. In all seriousness, I couldn't tell the difference between the Amsoil and the Ultima blend I had in the scoot except the color. Same noise, same heat, higher price. Time will tell.

[@dogshaff9307]

Don’t waste ur money on this stuff over priced, they just buy oil and bottle it

[@coreyyancey9272]

Lol...wrong

[@peterwilson3161]

what a completely stupid statement , don't shoot your mouth off when you don't know what you are talking about.

[@frankharley1000]

That's funny. I've been to their plant in Superior where they blend and bottle.

[@franksaxton3583]

I have been a long time synthetic lubrication fanatic for 50-odd years. I eventually moved to AMSOIL after reading all the test results and blending information that AMSOIL provides to the governments. i.e. investigating the FACTS not opinions on these products. I've been really happy with AMSOIL until around 2020 when the founder passed away. Since then, AMSOIL corporate has become radioactively toxic. They could care less about customers or small dealers. With this "NEXT-50" program if you aren't a high achiever they have contempt for you. K&N oil filters are the best that's out there. This is a fact. Just filtering small particles is meaningless if the media is so small that it clogs up quickly. Once that happens *NO* oil is filtered. Mobil One 20W-50 is as good if not better than AMSOIL and is less expensive. Bel Ray 85W-140 severe gear oil in the transmission. Redline V-twin primary fluid. I torque drain plugs that have anti-seize on the threads to 25 ft/lbs. You do NOT want one of them to fall out! I always send a sample of my drains to a lab to be analyzed. $35 is cheap insurance for a heads up on what's going on inside the engine. Tranny too. Sample the primary also if you are really anal as I am. If you're going to spring for a K&N air filter spend a bit more and install a big sucker or equivalent so you motor can breathe!