⚡Twin Cam Softail @Complete 3 Hole Oil Change

[@shed6624]

The best 3 hole oil change video on a Harley, on the whole net period. Well done

[@sikbaggers]

thank you!! Glad to help!

[@lm4tuna0461]

Been doing my own oil changes since 1978, and need a little help from time to time with different bikes. I’m not too proud to admit it either. Love this video! Great camera work and instructions. Easy to follow with perfect audio, lighting and editing. I wasted no time hitting the subscribe button and bell 🔔 Please keep it coming!

[@donthompson164]

Perfect step by step instructional video. I learned a new trick about the blow by on this video. Did not hesitate to like and subscribe. Not only does he tell you what he is doing but, he tells you why he is doing it.

[@sikbaggers]

Hey Don! Thank you so much for checking it out and the comment! I truly appreciate it. Glad the videos are helping! Don't hesitate to hit me up if you ever have any questions..be safe!

[@daringeorge8812]

Excellent video! Been changing my fluids in my Harleys for almost 30 years but still love watching other people to learn new techniques. 👍

[@sikbaggers]

Thank you Darin! I'm the same way...never stop learning!

[@dougsimpson8301]

Enjoyed watching the video is very good and he is knowledgeable now I just need to know how to make go faster

[@dmccombe7]

I have my brother in laws 2003 Heritage Softail to service. Its been stored in a barn since 2009. (he had a serious quad accident leaving him paralysed from neck) I've been cleaning the bike up first but my next step was oil changes altho i dont want to try starting the bike with 12yr old oil and was going to do an oil change first, change battery and turn the bike over by hand with spark plugs removed to make sure nothing has seized. Will put a tiny spot of oil in the spark plug holes beforehand. Your vid on the oil change simplified the procedure greatly for me. I had no idea there were 3 oil drains on the bike till i watched this. Many many thanks for your vids.

[@sikbaggers]

Glad to have helped!! I hope you an get it all lined out and running! Thanks for checking out the video!

[@daveboutte3056]

Dave Booty I really enjoyed your video, 1st time Harley owner at 65yrs old. Great video work,thanks so much.

[@sikbaggers]

thank you dave and any questions just let me know! Be safe!

[@deannewberry5628]

Me too Dave... 65 years old bought a 07 Deuce I found in the yard of the tarp over it😂

[@JerielWilliam]

Thank you for the tutorial on a three-hole oil change it was very good thank you

[@sikbaggers]

Youre very welcome! Glad to help!

[@TJRoberts-ny2rn]

Just wanted to say thanks for being here and showing us fellas exactly how its done in an easy way so we understand. God Bless You and Yours! See you next time when me,a paraplegic, and my paraplegic riding partner need a hand with our Softails!

[@sikbaggers]

Thank you TJ...much appreciated! I'm glad the videos help!

[@darrinleazer6784]

I have a 2015 Fatboy and this is a awesome video. Because by showing this, it helps me to save a lot of money in the long run.

[@sikbaggers]

Thanks for checking it out and really glad it helped!

[@terryrichardson59]

great video. Just to add, there is now a half funnel that is made for removing the oil filter and allows the oil to drain into a catch pan instead of hitting the frame/engine. Mine has a hole and a rubber tube to direct it to the pan.

[@sikbaggers]

yes there are several versions of that funnel on amazon..thanks for checking it out!

[@guitarking367]

I just bought my first motorcycle. A 2013 Harley-Davidson Heritage Softail Classic. A friend said I should expect a decent bill for oil changes and whatnot. So here I am watching videos to see how it's done to save me some money. Thank you for the informative and very detailed video. Also thank you for the links to the equipment I should invest in.

[@sikbaggers]

You are very welcome and yes tons of this can be done at home with a few simple tools...same as doing your cars and trucks, you just need to know fluid levels and how to check them. You'll save tons of money this way so I'm glad the videos are helping!

[@weathp]

Man I have an ‘02 Deuce and had no idea where to start with an oil change. Thanks to you I’ll be able to accomplish it. Thank you very much.

[@sikbaggers]

Youre very welcome. Its pretty straight forward..once you do it a few times itll be the same as doing your car or truck.

[@jontnoneya3404]

Great vid! Thank you! I didn't see a link to the Amsoil Fluids Kit

[@sikbaggers]

oh sorry about that...here is the link to Amsoil but if you find a local dealer they maybe able to offer a cheaper price as they get discounts www.amsoil.com/p/amsoil-v-twin-oil-change-kit-hdmb-hdmb/?code=HDMB-EA&gad_source=1

[@jontnoneya3404]

@@sikbaggers - Thank you so much!

[@jasonbartz7352]

Doing my 1st 3 hole change this weekend. Excellent tutorial! I also cant help but to admire the bike. Beautiful!!!

[@sikbaggers]

thank you very much and glad to help!

[@Wrench7532]

Still serving the American people in one way or the other !! Thank You Steve

[@sikbaggers]

Thank you Michael!

[@petemcelhaney9205]

I've always paid the shop for a 3 hole, but, but never again...this video makes it very easy...thank you Brother

[@sikbaggers]

Glad to help save some money! Super easy to do at home!

[@Jaysonic3423]

Thank you for this!! I am not mechanically proficient/inclined/experienced, but, just bought a 2001 Softail Deuce, and want to be able to do my own work on it. Looking for a tuneup video, your video is the first that popped up, and it's perfect! Easily explained, clearly shown. Thank you! Instant sub.

[@TanTan-zw7wb]

Say. This is precisely the video I’ve been looking for. Great information and tips and tricks to get this done right ! Thank you!

[@sikbaggers]

thanks for watching and glad to help!

[@Yoda19611]

Thanks you for doing this great video! The softail standard is slightly different but all of the steps are basically the same. This is an excellent reference video! Well done!

[@sikbaggers]

Thank you for watching and the kind comment! Much appreciated and glad the video helped!

[@melaniemitchell2370]

Great Video! Very informative. Better then most I've seen because you show what tools are needed and where exactly the plugs are. I expecially like your tips to make it easier and how not to overfill it with oil. Thank you!

[@shanewhitford]

Shane from New Zealand here. Fantastic little video I have the confidence to bow do my own lube changes. Thank you!

[@sikbaggers]

Youre very welcome Shane and thank you for watching..glad to help!

[@mcbrown8729]

Just bought a 2014 fat boy Softail this was very educational due to the fact that I do most of my own work it was step-by-step and and I really like that keep the good work going

[@sikbaggers]

thats awesome...glad to help!! Enjoy your new sled!

[@earlmallow]

This has helped me tremendously, I am a new owner of my first heritage soft tail that also has the 103 engine. Thank you for making this video for the ones who don’t have the financial means to get their bikes to a shop. Have a blessed week. -AKA Lucky

[@sikbaggers]

Hey glad to help Lucky!! Thank you for watching!

[@robjohnson212]

That was GREAT! Best damn oil change tutorial EVER. Thank You, Sir!

[@sikbaggers]

thank you rob! Glad to help!

[@danoweston6185]

Really explained every thing well, including the locations of the drain plugs, thank you!

[@bobbymills8817]

Top notch pal - straight forward and specific to the task . Didn't have to watch the first 10 minutes or so listening to what you had for breakfast two weeks and two days ago like a lot of the crappy videos in a desperate attempt at running the clock. True professional and it shows through your attention to detail. Keep-um coming Bobby Mills Mt Airy NC

[@sikbaggers]

Thank you sir..much appreciated. I like to keep it pretty straight forward...I go on youtbe all the time looking for help and im with you...cant stand to have to skip through videos to find what im looking for.

[@johnkenneally4662]

Great instructional video. Just bought a Softail and need to change the three holes. You gave me confidence.

[@sikbaggers]

You got it! Glad it helped!

[@thomasfreeborn3496]

thank you for the three hole oil change, thanks for all the knowledge you give us on all your videos, you rock brother!!!

[@sikbaggers]

Thank you Thomas! Much appreciate sir.

[@joeg8269]

Lmao! "One ugah dugah..." First time I've ever heard that one... but knew exactly what he was talking about. That will definitely be a unit of measurement in my garage moving forward!

[@Silvermototsurfer]

Great tutorial. The list of the necessary items is on point. Thanks!

[@sikbaggers]

Thank you and thank you for checking it out...grateful that it helped you!

[@hueyhuval9902]

One of the BEST videos I’ve seen on this subject yet…!

[@sikbaggers]

Thank you Huey...glad to help!

[@Cherhill]

Just did the 3 hole change from this video, all good thank you! 🙏

[@sikbaggers]

awesome and saved some money! Glad to help!

[@axa4216]

you're the man! thanks for breaking it down so well, much appreciated

[@sikbaggers]

very glad to help!

[@timothystake5576]

well done video, simple speak & easy to understand! you're going to help a lot of hesitant guys/ladies save a BUNCH of $$$ by being able to do these necessary maintenance items..

[@sikbaggers]

Thanks for checking it out Timothy! Much appreciated sir.

[@AntonioFilho-z9l]

Got my first Harley 2005 softtail. Always work on my cars but never did any work on a motorcycle. This video was great. Awesome and clean information. Thank you

[@sikbaggers]

Very glad to be a help and thank you for checking it out!

[@petertfarler880]

First time Harley owner, so for me it was very informative 👍You're video was done very well, easy to follow... Keep up the great job !!!

[@sikbaggers]

Glad it helped, Peter and thanks for checking it out!

[@petertfarler880]

@@sikbaggers Mornin, should I use the oil designated for each "Hole" and not just synthetic 20-50 in all three holes, I live in Florida...Thanks in advance !!!

[@eprendes48]

I've been doing my own fluid changes for years and I picked up a couple of great tips thanks for the help. Just added a Softail to the stable and it's been a while since I did a fluid change on one!

[@sikbaggers]

Really glad to help!

[@danielnichols9049]

Thanks for the video. Just became the owner of a 98 Heritage Softail. Have another bike but it’s different (FXDWG 2013) so this is useful knowledge.

[@loukennedy9058]

Fantastic video Steve very informative , well explained & easy to follow , gives amateurs like me confidence in having a go at this. Cheers Lou 🇦🇺

[@sikbaggers]

Thank you Lou! Glad the video helped...any questions please just let me know. Have a great weekend!

[@nitsujecirp6354]

This is a new world to me but after watching this I feel more confident in getting it done. Fantastic video thank you

[@sikbaggers]

Glad to help!

[@acemcgillicutty4420]

Thanks so much. Just got my first Harley - 2002 Fatboy. Did the oil change yesterday. Only one uga-duga I swear!

[@sikbaggers]

HAHAH good deal...one and done! Thanks foe checking it out and glad it helped!

[@FloridaBoilermaker]

Love the videos, I just had to use a hand impact driver with a ½" socket T27 for my durby cover. As the dealership before me started to strip the bolts and didn't replace it. The impact driver is nicer if caught in time than a drill.

[@jimkoch1040]

Make more videos brother, I'm addicted! Definitely the best going.

[@sikbaggers]

Sorry for the late reply, just got back from Sturgis..but thank you Jim! We have alot in store!

[@j-rc6520]

Awesome video. I have a 2010 heritage with the 103 kit. Will the 3 oils you use be the same for my bike?

[@david-bo5tp]

Helps much.Just about to refill oil in my 2004 Heritage Softail Classic

[@troygier991]

Very well done. Because of you I am considering buying a Harley. In my mid fifties and it's time to buy a Road glide special. Thanx and have a good day. Yes I use AMSOIL and its recommended by Harley dealers in DFW area.

[@sikbaggers]

Thanks Troy...well we have plenty of videos on the harley baggers ..street glides and road glides...the softail build is pretty new to us here but a lot of the info transfers over to same to the baggers.

[@ThomKister]

This will be me doing my first oil change, Video was very informative and gave me the confidence to do the job. Thank you

[@sikbaggers]

glad to help and thank you for checking it out!

[@kennethdunn6932]

Dude this worked perfect took me about 25 minutes of first time wrenching on my Heritage 103. Thanks

[@sikbaggers]

Hey Ken glad the video helped and saved you some money ..thank you for checking it out

[@tonytellez2452]

Was very impressed on your technique of installing led lites on your bike..I have a trike HD planning on installing some on mine...thanks for all that info!!

[@GaryGullicksen]

Hi I have just done 3 hole change I used the redline 75/90 for trans works great also redline for primary big difference in shifting smooth. I have softail deuce with inspection cover I checked both filled threw primary less mess bike runs and shifts like new thanks again .

[@paulsomers2166]

Very helpful. I liked how you talked about cross-threading of bolts/screws. However, the very best way to prevent the cross-thread of bolts/screws is to put the bolt to the hole then turn left/counter clockwise until you hear a click. When you hear a click that means the treads are on track and wont cross

[@sikbaggers]

great tip paul! Thanks for checking it out!

[@gregmannos]

Ultra owner here.. thanks for ALL your videos

[@sikbaggers]

Thanks for checking it out Greg and you're very welcome! Be safe!

[@atoth9939]

Great video! I've done these oil changes several times over the years, but this time I was looking to see if anyone has found any tricks by now about getting any more oil out of the engine case since during an oil change, you're really just draining the oil tank. There is still a bit of old oil in the engine. It's been fine over the years. Was just curious. Thanks for the video!

[@sikbaggers]

yeah youll never get all the old oil out and its fine...you would be surprised to see how much they dont drain on a HD service. When it slows down, they plug it back up. get her hot and drain her, thats about it.

[@michaelcorrea2547]

Always a big help, you are 100% my go to guy. Everything I have done you have been my guide. Thank you very much. Mike

[@sikbaggers]

Hey Mike thank you man! Much appreciated..thats what its all about...saving money and learning a bit about your bike...thank you for checking out the videos!

[@peterbiltpati3107]

A great video guys. Thank you for making basic maintenance refresher pleasant to listen to and not 'in your face' . Easier to stay focused and absorb, when the voice and professionalism is in layman's terms and not Sigmund Froid's or Billy or Bobby Badass's.

[@sikbaggers]

Thank you for checking it out and the kind words! I hope the video helped!

[@jerielyork4399]

The 3-hole oil change was awesome thank you keep up the good work God bless

[@sikbaggers]

grateful to help!

[@ronaldhudson5678]

Excellent presentation, well explain, I am an vehicle mechanic, I own a 03 H.D. Her. Softail Classic I will be looking at more your videos and I will get bike manual, Thanks 👍💯

[@sikbaggers]

Thank you for checking it out Ronald! Glad the video helped...and if you already wrench then this will be a breeze, just need the fluid amounts and torque specs and your set.

[@briandaniels1551]

just watched your 3 hole fluid change on the 2015 Heritage... very informative as I'm planning to start changing my own fluids mostly due to dealership service costs. I have a 2016 Heritage, and could relate to everything you discussed. Thanks

[@sikbaggers]

Grateful to help you Brian! Servicing your sled is pretty easy...just need the know how and your all set to save a ton of money!

[@russpeaknuckel9525]

Excellent !

[@elcioalmeida800]

I learned a lot by watching your videos on oil change… Thank you very very much 😉👍

[@sikbaggers]

Glad the video helped! And thank you for checking it out!

[@emailusatdotcom]

Great job, easy to follow and this video should help others to feel confident on working on their own bike. Routine maintenance task.

[@joewest826]

My guess is the Heritage and the 06 Softail Deluxe differ just a little bit because my service manual doesn't agree with yours. However, they are close. My conundrum is that when I add the proper amount of oil as per the manual the dipstick shows an overfull condition. My manual also gives cold check and hot check instructions and should be performed on the jiffy stand. It even says that on the back of the dipstick...on the jiffy stand. The manual indicates that cold the oil should be at or just below the bottom weld of the filler neck. But when it is, the dipstick shows the oil is above the full line. On the hot check the oil is halfway up the filler tube. I took out some oil with a clean turkey baster and now on a cold check the oil is a good 1/2 to 3/4 inch below the weld on the filler neck but the dipstick still shows overfull. My manual say's to install up to 3.5 quarts of oil with a new filter but that seems to be way too much oil. What the heck am I missing here. Just to be clear I had the dipstick open to atmosphere when I drained the oil and I installed a new empty filter. Too much oil in Tampa ;-) .

[@sikbaggers]

Hey joe...yes you are correct about the amounts from yours to mine...they are very different size twin cams and you will need to use your service manual for sure on the specs. 88 vs 103 I would check it hot...in your case with it showing too much oil cold...but when its cold that doesnt really matter...it matters when the bike is running and the temps are hot...thats when you want the protection. Are you getting blow by? Oil dripping from your air cleaner when its hot or your riding? Also have you changed out the OEM disptick to an aftermarket one? Is your bike lowered in the rear? Bigger wheel in the rear or front? all of these things can effect the way your dipstick reads

[@dustyflair]

GREAT ADVICE! Thanks for taking to time and $$ to make these vids!

[@sikbaggers]

Thank you Dusty! Much appreciated!

[@tommylogan2201]

Thank you for this video I just got a heritage classic and want to do alot of maintenance myself this video realy helps alot.

[@firbyd]

This is the one that I needed and used on an 06 Fatboy twin cam 88. Nice job, thank you!

[@sikbaggers]

grateful to help!

[@dogwooddigger732]

Love the videos on the soft tail as much as your others! Sure do appreciate you and what you doing.

[@sikbaggers]

Thank you and thank you for checking them out! Be safe!!

[@John-ob7dh]

Very good point about making sure the derby cover screws are all loose ,before undoing the drain plug .( not the sort of thing i would have thought of .Great info.

[@sikbaggers]

thanks john...learned that lesson the hard way on the new bikes.

[@John-ob7dh]

@sikbaggers yep,many thanks,as just about to do this job ,so glad I checked this first 👏

[@fltrjim]

Just bought the wife a softail, thanks for the awesome video. Learned the hard way on stripping the bolts for the primary cover🤣, on my roadglide. Props for the tip.

[@sikbaggers]

Thanks fore checking t out Jim and yeah,..me too....thats makes for a pretty bad day lol

[@seanglennon8711]

Very good detailed video. my only question is, is it safe to use additives such as seafoam

[@DanaIsaacs]

Thank you very useful.....Great information and quickly taught without any unnecessary information unrelated to the topic

[@sikbaggers]

Glad to help!! be safe!

[@southsidehitmen]

I own a H-D Softail Breakout. Thank you for using a 2015 Softail model in this video. This info helped me tremendously! I’ve Subscribed & Liked! 👍 💻

[@sikbaggers]

Grateful to help!

[@rudafitness9870]

Just did my first 3 hole on my Fatty after riding and working on a Dyna for the past ten years. This video saved my a**. Thanks bruv!

[@sikbaggers]

Youre very welcome..glad to help!

[@edwardkoperski3659]

Amy chance on detailing the 3 hole change for a FXLR Low Rider M8 107? BTW great video good detail and great tips while working. Steve is very good

[@GaryGullicksen]

This clip has great detail for the 3 hole change this cheaper than going to shop yes get service manual to the host Great job .

[@sikbaggers]

thank you and glad to help!

[@brianlougheed1695]

Best video I have seen to date! Thanks for all the professional descriptions and information. I look forward to watching more! 2011 and 2015 Heritage in the Garage!

[@RickBoehmer-zw2nj]

Very good video on the 3 hole oil change. Hes very informative. Thank you. Keep it safe.

[@sikbaggers]

Thank you Rick!

[@midtennmoto7541]

New to the brand and have really enjoyed learning servicing on them from your excellent videos.

[@sikbaggers]

Really glad to help! If you have questions about anything please let us know!

[@darknite199]

Love the video. Will be doing it on my 08 softail heritage

[@davidhelton9007]

So if I’m not mistaken, is the synthetic oil not for all holes? The oil for the primary is not the same ? Sure appreciate these videos, as I do need the information from time to time.

[@sikbaggers]

Hey David...yes you can run synthetic in all 3 holes..we run HD SYN3 in all thre holes on the baggers with no issues. The amsoil kit just has a slightly different weight for each one but its still all synthetic.

[@nogalitosquerido1]

Nice video and everything we need to know about changing all 3 in1. Thank you!

[@sikbaggers]

Thank you for checking it out!

[@marklubecke4854]

Nice presentation,clear, concise, thanks.

[@sikbaggers]

thank you for checking it out Mark..glad to have helped!

[@brianbessette2284]

Very informative I just got a 2001 Heritage my very first harley and this was very helpful

[@sikbaggers]

Thank you brian! Glad the video helped!

[@rushtk2112]

Thank you! Just got my 1st harley and am trying to learn what to do.

[@sikbaggers]

Youre very welcome! And if you have any questions please let me know ill try to help the best i can, Be safew

[@rushtk2112]

@@sikbaggers I figure I will bug some of my old vet brothers, your video was very informative, you have a new subscriber! Thanks again!

[@mrkimnmobile]

Just added a 2005 Heritage Deluxe to my stable...great video and I look forward to many years of wrenching with you.

[@sikbaggers]

Thank you for checking them out Kim..any questions let me know,

[@lUsedToBeAMan]

man, cant say enough. beautiful video, beautiful presentation

[@sikbaggers]

thank you for checking it out!

[@ezradaniel5458]

Thanks brother, been riding 22 years, don’t know how to change oil. I want to start at 52 😂 never too late right. Love your channel!💯

[@sikbaggers]

Thank you sir! Im glad to help and yes im still learning at 51!

[@kerrycoltun8499]

Great video. Just picked up a used 2003 Softail FXSTI with a Twin Cam 88 and plan to change the oil. Just need to decide if I want to go with Amsoil or Mobil.

[@sikbaggers]

Thank you and very glad the video helped! Savin $$$

[@madogblue]

Was doing some research on my 2007 Softail. Per Transmission service bulletin M-1296 that applies to 96 CI six speeds: Capacity is 32 oz, may only need 28 due to residual in trans. Check level just rest the dipstick on the lip of the housing on side stand. Do not screw in.

[@sikbaggers]

aah yes...love those bulletins HD puts out..you were smart to look that up, specially on an 07..4 ounces can definitely make a huge difference.

[@donmorton8931]

Great video, getting ready to do mine for the first time, thanks, very helpful

[@sikbaggers]

glad to help!

[@edgomez3322]

This is a excellent video thanks for your excellent video on this matter

[@sikbaggers]

Youre very welcome and glad it helped!

[@azmax69]

GREAT video! I've not worked on a Soft Tail (Touring rider here) before but will be helping a friend this weekend to change all 3 holes. Awesome job. (I'll be checking out your vid on the touring model as well.

[@sikbaggers]

I hope it goes well for you...its really not too much different the the touring one...same basic process but glad the video helped!

[@bobwhitaker8233]

You ever do a 2008 softail stator change without removing the inner primary.

[@manfredbarbaro8970]

Got a Deluxe. Enjoyed the video. Got da wife worried bc im going to try this myself! Thanks 👍🏽

[@sikbaggers]

aah you got it! Its pretty easy...keep the video handy and youll be just fine. Next time you do it itll be much easier.

[@ds9886]

Informative video. Your statement about the Derby cover being difficult to remove is so true. I ruined my first Derby cover. Not sure why the factory installs them with a mig welder! Lol

[@sikbaggers]

yeah they do suck .,...broke a few bolts in my days lol...its horrible every time it happens.

[@mikesampson6118]

Thank you Sir ! Very helpful and thorough.

[@sikbaggers]

glad to help!

[@irnfocus]

New subscriber here! What a great step by step video! This will be first time changing fluids on my heritage so I'm thankful for you - just put all tools in my Amazon cart but can't find the amsoil v twin kit

[@sikbaggers]

Thank you iris! Glad the video helped! Youll have to get that either through amsoils website or find a local dealer for it. One of my good buddies is a dealer so we get the discount on the fluids that amsoil offers.

[@sikbaggers]

sorry for the late reply...we have been in sturgis and 100 mph since we got back and I'm just sitting down to do youutbe comments..the amsoil kits will need to be purchased through a dealer from what I've been told...one of my buddies is a dealer and that's where I get it but yes the oil kit is separate from the primary and trans..its not really a "3 hole kit" the oil kit comes with the oil, o rings and filter, then you will need the trans and primary also

[@ronniemyers572]

For me it was very helpful thank you

[@timothyjamess76]

Got an 08 Rocker C. Thank you.

[@lonniesharp9109]

You need a shirt that just says "ONE UGGA-DUGGA" 😎

[@sikbaggers]

lol...great idea!

[@roadglide1745]

Good video as expected. Believe it or not your choice. Only replaced Derby cover O-ring twice since new 2009. Replaced original few years back just because, No discrepancies found. I do have a spare available. It goes with us on long rides out of state. Keep Shiny Side Up.

[@sikbaggers]

Sorry for the late reply, I just got back from Sturgis...yes sir....the derby cover o ring usually lasts pretty long

[@roadglide1745]

@@sikbaggers Good morning wish I was there at Sturgis, caught some your feed from there. Worked aerospace Delta II and 4. Know full well about o-ring failures. Appreciate all sound advice in Videos. Forwarded the Street Glide fairing video to my son, has 2017 SG. Keep Shiny side up.