Amy Gallagher: How Psychology Went Mad

[@gratuitousfootnote1183]

Amy is a personal hero for me - I'm a teacher in the US who has been ostracized by co-workers for speaking out against this madness. Hope everyone can give a modest donation to her case.

[@OrwellsHousecat]

💛🤗

[@_munkykok_]

A Case For Modesty

[@Klonen75]

You're not alone. We are many that see through this cloud of insanity. I bet you have many collegues around the country that supports you. I bet thousands of students wish you where their teacher and thousands of parents wish their child where in your safe hands.

[@Rawdiswar]

The inmates are running the asylum.

[@pabloguzman8472]

The racists are discriminating and bullying

[@jromeo6748]

Precisely

[@mavrosyvannah]

The patients are running the asylum. 😮

[@localbod]

Indeed.

[@joelhenry4643]

and they have run everybody who is not insane, OUT.!!!

[@DiogenesInExile]

I'm so sorry that you've gone through this. Your story is so similar to mine, and Leslie's and so many others now. I'm glad that you have been able to get your case in court and are talking about it.

[@Andrew-rc3vh]

It's great to hear you took them on. I was in a vaguely similar situation where an institution had gone corrupt, but with my case I realised it was not just me they were treating badly, but other people got a lot worse. What I did was I researched the law myself and tried to informally help others with legal rights and that kind of thing. I was trying to to be the good samaritan. Anyway, the key trick was by helping others we informally organised and not only was I filing legal stuff, but I showed many others how to do it. The thing is they can often deal with one troublemaker, but not dozens all firing at once. We won!

[@dkeit]

I had imagined that accounts such as these must be exaggerated until I experienced it for myself at Pepperdine University. And the accounts elsewhere are legion. Not only are the foundations of the very subjects being taught decried for their “whiteness,” so is virtually every integral facet of these programs themselves labelled as an expression of white supremacy, and with not a whiff of self-awareness: Punctuality. Emphasis on the written word. Rationality and reason. Empiricism and science. Reliance on testing. Academic standards. Intellectual rigor. In other words, everything the university demands of its students, and uses both in its metrics of evaluation for entry into the self-same program, and ostensibly the essence of academic evaluation at every stage in one’s progress through the program is bizarrely labelled thus. Not a hint of recognition at the gross and cynical contradictions involved. Just mindless flagellation and hysterical proclamations presented as incontrovertible fact. Point out any of the innumerable inconsistencies in the pedagogy or display the slightest skepticism about the orthodoxy at your peril. Faculty will ensure your road forward is nearly unendurable. I can still see the haunted faces of those cowed into silence long after I walked away in disgust.

[@wudly9195]

How does this channel not have more views ??? Such good conversations

[@OrwellsHousecat]

Your second sentence is the answer to your first

[@Cycle.every.day.]

Well said, youtube algorithm is woke bias i'm afraid, the common sense youtube videos/streams get shadow banned (don't get pushed)

[@linmal2242]

Because the 'woke' channel is being censored; you should know that ! just like this comment won't be there soon, will it yt ?

[@14docmurph]

Her story is almost identical to mine...except to my everlasting shame, when I was told I would be exited from the program, I acquiesced. I rationalized this by saying I would not let them gatekeep me from the profession and that I was not in the ideal position to fight their ideology. I never regurgitated woke ideology, and I took jabs where I could, but I kept my head down and got through it. I think this will bother me forever.

[@dontarguewithidiots7459]

be kind to yourself. We are almost ALL susceptible to social pressure. I'm sure you do excellent work:)

[@WonderfulWorldofAwesomeness]

This is what most of us do. I refuse to feel guilty for being a survivor in an impossible situation. I suggest you adopt the same mindset. I feel only anger at the BS they tried to stuff into my head, and all of the gaslighting.

[@magnolia3671]

Please don't beat yourself up. We've all been there sometime, cannot learn unless immersed in life, and that means making mistakes. Once seen, time to move on.

[@rightcheer5096]

Wisdom is the better part of valor.

[@laurenholt269]

I'd love to hear about your story. I went through the same thing, though I was driven out of my program. I think we all need to write some letters to the ACA, CACREP, etc.

[@1977ajax]

The lack of intellectual integrity, and the personal careerist cowardice of Tavistock management, and the management of so many companies and public bodies, is truly nauseating.

[@linmal2242]

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[@Sunmoonandstars123]

Not surprised at all about psychologists having no self awareness. My grandfather was one, and a total abuser. My abusive sister is getting into counseling. Another extremely abusive family friend is counseling children. It’s terrifying.

[@markferguson7563]

Where da hell did the lecturer in question, come to the conclusion that, Christianity is European and, therefore (intrinsically), racist? Whoever this person might be, who made this incredibly outlandish accusations, has quite obviously never read anything about the history of Christianity, and its rise. Let’s start with Judea, where Christianity has it base, was populated by Semites. But it was in Egypt, in 42 A.D, in Alexandria that, the Coptic church, which is the oldest continuous tenant of Christianity took root. Once more, Egyptians aren’t Europeans/Caucasians, but are Araboid. Up until 312, when Emperor Constatine converted to Christianity, Europe, and Britain and, indeed, Scandinavia (the Vikings) were outright pagans. Apropos to the latter group, it would take another 6 centuries before they converted to Christianity. But I certainly can’t conclude conveying some basic nuances of the foundations of Christianity, without mentioning the Cappadocian Fathers, who are credited with founding the most sacred and avowed doctrines of Christianity. Once more, these three fathers weren’t Europeans. Finally, some of the most devout Christians on the planet aren’t Europeans, either. Moreover, I’d wager my right arm that, the clear majority of practising Christians right now, exist in non-European lands. And, indeed, some of the most devout Christians in Western societies are immigrants from non-European sources. No doubt, I’d bet my left leg being amputated that, the nitwit lecturer who said that Christianity is European, would almost certainly purport that, “maths is racist”: when the reality is that, the fundamental foundations of maths was a collaboration nurtured by the Hindus/Arabs/Muslins, in the latter part of the 6th century and into the ensuing century. The most significant thing to arise in that era was developing what we all take for granted with 0, to 9.

[@dontarguewithidiots7459]

I applaud her courage. I think she and Leslie are incredible. TRULY. I'm thinking of grad school and myself am not sure how i'm going to navigate this..

[@aaronkindsvatter5615]

This is brilliant. Amy I am so sorry you went through this. I hope we can connect at some point. Kindly, Aaron Kindsvatter

[@sylviarogier1]

Asking her to not enter through the lobby and having her see her patient in the basement reminds me of the clubs in the 30s and 40s who wouldn't let the black entertainers enter through the front door but through the back service door. Insane bullsh*t. I feel so bad for you two ladies and what you have been through.

[@spartan6005]

That’s where they get the idea it’s revenge

[@unanielson8837]

A lot of this is revenge. Revenge on the western world for contributing and being ahead in so many domains, from science to art. Even on a smaller scale you see people hating others because of their success.

[@m.chumakov1033]

I am afraid this story is not so much about these two ladies but rather all of us. Things are much worse than one could imagine if CRT is now a mandatory condition of becoming a psychotherapist in UK (and everywhere).

[@sylviarogier1]

@@m.chumakov1033 I understand that, but I think the experiences of these two women exemplify how social justice activists - both on an individual level and an institutional level - engage in retaliation rather than debate. And God help us if these activist-psychologists use critical social justice in their jobs.

[@unanielson8837]

@@spartan6005 So absolutely true.

[@wiseonwords]

It's really good to see Amy Gallagher on this channel. She's been doing some great work on Peter Whittle's New Culture Forum.

[@linmal2242]

Yes, worth viewing now !

[@linmal2242]

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[@linmal2242]

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[@Rick_Cleland]

I needed to get out of counseling and therapy with psychologists and addiction counselors in the NHS who were making me far worse, verbally abusing me to the point that I went on massive drinking binges. It didn't used to be like this ten years ago.

[@ilsedemolder3973]

Can you give an example of what they said to you?

[@Rick_Cleland]

@@ilsedemolder3973 Shout about how pathetic I was and how I might as well drink because I had failed at life. Then tell me not to use them shouting at me as an excuse to buy drink. Mock the fact that I couldn't get a "normal" girlfriend and how I'd be better of alone because who would want to date someone like me.

[@nataliebutler]

​@@Rick_Cleland That person sounds crazy. No one has the right to speak to you that way. You could make a complaint or at least request to see a different person.

[@Rick_Cleland]

@@nataliebutler I let it go on for longer than I should, then I just threw the head up and wanted nothing to do with any of them.

[@linmal2242]

Stop getting smashed; just get even !

[@AndyJarman]

I feel sick in the pit of my stomach when hearing people relate these stories.

[@Anne_Onymous]

I work in health care. So I have to see this stuff every day and keep my mouth shut. It's beyond frustrating and nauseating. Medicine is my passion but it's making me not want to be involved in it because of this stuff. Sad. Disgusting. Enraging.

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

It's still happening.

[@zachb8012]

@@Anne_Onymous The medical field is literally still foisting SSRIs on people in spite of the fact they've NEVER been proven over placebo to be effective at treating depression and carry a ton of negative side effects. They've always been based on a fundamentally flawed conception of how the human brain works.

[@_munkykok_]

So you're still newly exposed to this... This kind of cultural shift has been going on for a while. Possibly more accelerated lately, since the times are dire, economically. So people keep telling all kinds of lies for money. (Yes, even the holy experts, educators, and so forth...) And the (mainstream) media never even mentioning any of this, tells you all the rest of it. The degree of corruption is what we could call 'profound as fck', or put in more classical terms: 'all-encompassing'. (#SystemicCorruption, #AcademiaCorruption, #MassCorruption)

[@ankavoskuilen1725]

I actually felt stick too. I had to stop at 14:29 because it was too much to take in one sitting. I can only imagine how that must have been for her. It is like living in Russia or China.

[@NinjaKittyBonks]

Thank you Ms. Amy for what will surely be wonderful insight in to a profession that has, in too many cases, sold its ethical soul for an ideology. Thank you as well, Ms. Leslie for giving her your platform, insight and time 🥰

[@miroirs-jumeaux]

🥈

[@NinjaKittyBonks]

❤

[@helenablavatsky9136]

Had to take a call from my brother. Had to bow out of chat, sorry.

[@NinjaKittyBonks]

@@helenablavatsky9136 …. [Kittey sets into motion KittyKloneCatostrophicConundromContinuousClandestinedCoordinatedCampaignCoopContingency act] You have forced the Kitty’s 🐾Though it pains The Kitty deeply, this is for my own good…. I’m sorry 😼

[@helenablavatsky9136]

@@NinjaKittyBonks Whaaaaat?!

[@Rawdiswar]

Newsflash: people who have lived their entire lives in the ivory tower become institutionalized, aka bat shit crazy.

[@meisherenow]

I know interviewer isn't the job you had in mind a few years ago, Leslie, but you're getting pretty good at it. Amy had a lot to say, and you let her say it without interruptions.

[@TJ-kk5zf]

I wish Jordan Peterson could learn that

[@theradicalcenter]

Thank you very much. 🙏

[@Strange9952]

I can't believe this, absolutely insane we've been talking about this problem for a while now, but this is way beyond that now

[@Amuse-l9q]

"It was your tone of voice. It was the way that you said it. It was the way you made people feel." From people teaching psychotherapy 😀OMG Amy, you are well out of the Tavistock. You have a great future ahead of you as a truth teller, as does Leslie 👏

[@martinjohnson5498]

You may not yet see it but you are confronting evil. Not merely wrong or misguided, but evil.

[@brianmeen2158]

Yes but again I’m lost as to how to fight it …? By now we are well aware that it’s in the system but doesn’t seem to be everywhere yet .. the question is: how do we get it out if that’s even possible..?

[@baysbill]

@@brianmeen2158 Legitimate question. There is no "fix". We as individuals and thus "society as a whole" live with a built-in ying/yang, good/evil, whatever, recognized by secularists and Deity believers alike, even if identified differently. Just like our planets are held in orbit (balance) by the tension between gravity and centrifugal force. The "purpose" of such an existence is for each human to "apply effort" within ourselves and wherever we interact with society in a never ending fight for an unachievable "balance". This "lack of victory" might seem hopeless, but Victor Frankl writes that no matter our circumstances, we can always choose joy. Like life is simply a character building opportunity, for lack of a better description! ...If you and I were in Germany many years ago and had the chance to save a choking child in a restaurant, we would do so. Even if we knew his name was Adolph Hitler at the time, we would not know what he might do in the future, and would feel good about saving him. So everyday, we apply effort to joy and fighting what we feel is evil within ourselves and in society, and leave the future to whatever or whoever is greater than all.

[@IdaKiss]

I was raised as atheist, and consider myself agnostic. Worked in social sciences research. The last 15 years I experience things that I cannot explain but with the existence of evil. If I accept that pure evil exists, then I have to accept that god exists. Now, that's some food for thought, isn't it.

[@karlslicher8520]

The impending civilizational collapse will remove access to the technology that allows the ease of life for any of Christendom's frivolous niceties to exist at all. Islam and necessity will put women back in the home where fertility will be the decider of winners and losers if democracy holds and there the smart women will revive Christian values and the new cycle of the rise and fall of post-industrial motherhood will begin again.

[@linmal2242]

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[@BillyWhaler]

Great interview and guest. Impressed and concerned how quickly, aggressively and seemingly coordinated the woke movement rolled over academics, media, politics and business. They were on lock step and not stopping for questions.

[@nikolasweischner3560]

It's difficult to ignore isn't it? The phenomenon isn't naturally occuring.

[@wiseonwords]

@BillyWhaler - And what's astonishing to me is that you have ostensibly intelligent people who stubbornly deny that anything untoward has been happening in academia, the media, politics, and the corporate world!

[@lindosland]

They've worked for 50 years to plan this. I wonder how much you know about the roots of Woke ideology in the Frankfurt School and how they vowed to undermine Christian-based Western culture as the way to bring a form of communism to Europe. Herbert Marcuse, Theodore Adorno and Antonio Gramsci. It was one of their members, Kurt Lewin (see 'The Practical Theorist') who brought these ideas to the Tavistock Institute, resulting in the Tavistock Clinic (NHS branch) doing terrible things to children in the name of the Transgender movement.

[@OrwellsHousecat]

It's not a rogue faction of extremists - it's top-down ideological control. Welcome to the Cultural Revolution Great Leap Forward

[@liberality]

​@@lindosland The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations was spun off from the clinic in 1947. Lewin died before he had a chance to take up the post he had reportedly been offered there. He had founded the Research Center for Group Dynamics at MIT just two years previously, so a transatlantic move would have been a big ask. As far as I know Lewin had nothing to do with the Portman Clinic which hosted GIDS when it arrived at the Tavistock and Portman Trust.

[@andrewfindlay7594]

Fantastic interview - thank you both!

[@rebeccapenders5050]

Excellent interview. I applaud Amy's bravery! Thank you both ❤

[@Financialcoachchris]

What Amy went through is a case study in how we have backwards we have become in mental health treatment.

[@JONSEY101]

The sad thing is that with a subject like psychology or any science, an important part of it is to ask questions. There will be times when disagreements come along, and in such cases, there are discussions to figure out the issues, but it seems that with those like Amy and even myself at times, you're told to be silent say nothing. I notice that those who silence others come out with such things as ' I feel offended, traumatised ', etc, and although that person may be feeling perhaps annoyed because of your point of view on a given subject, they use other words to again, silence you. If these people feel offended by a different opinion, then I'd say they have some really deeper serious issues they need to deal with. The problem is that for some odd reason, it's about pampering such people which doesn't help them to grow or to become a stronger person within because rather than facing tough times, they are simply being subjectivity condition to run and hide. This kind of thinking seems to have happened over a relatively short period of time, which makes me think it's not happening in a normal, natural way as things would in society but is something that some group, maybe political is pushing to manipulate people into thinking a specific way. It could even go as far as being a decider on what political party you vote for and which I think is maybe partly its real goal. It's like specific people have entered or hijacked important places in society in order to have more power and control. Rather than doing it through normal means, they use different institutions and infrastructures to gain that control as they can be used in many ways. The education system being important because you can manipulate what people learn, whether it's fact or not. If you use feelings in such places to silence people, you're essentially using guilt they have no need to be feeling against them which can be very powerful, just look at how people have used such techniques in relationships. When they have those in charge, also backing them in such places, the other person feels even more pressured into giving in. It's a disgusting form of manipulation and should never be allowed in any institution. I'm so glad Amy spoke out about this and a very interesting topic. One more people need to stand up to, speak out about, and not be afraid of doing so. If we simply sit back and do nothing, the outcome I feel will be something so many will regret and wish they had done or said something. Don't stay silent, having your own thoughts is OK. Having your own opinion is ok, and it is through discussions that we learn and grow, not through silence.

[@danihart3515]

What's really terrifying is that so many people need therapy these days and so many people will be screwed up by this.

[@petebaumbach7944]

Hi Amy ... you're an admirable person ; courageous and principled. Strength to you. I donated to your fund and wish you all the best , rgds Pete Baumbach

[@markferguson7563]

Where da hell did the lecturer in question, come to the conclusion that, Christianity is European and, therefore (intrinsically), racist? Whoever this person might be, who made this incredibly outlandish accusations, has quite obviously never read anything about the history of Christianity, and its rise. Let’s start with Judea, where Christianity has it base, was populated by Semites. But it was in Egypt, in 42 A.D, in Alexandria that, the Coptic church, which is the oldest continuous tenant of Christianity took root. Once more, Egyptians aren’t Europeans/Caucasians, but are Araboid. Up until 312, when Emperor Constatine converted to Christianity, Europe, and Britain and, indeed, Scandinavia (the Vikings) were outright pagans. Apropos to the latter group, it would take another 6 centuries before they converted to Christianity. But I certainly can’t conclude conveying some basic nuances of the foundations of Christianity, without mentioning the Cappadocian Fathers, who are credited with founding the most sacred and avowed doctrines of Christianity. Once more, these three fathers weren’t Europeans. Finally, some of the most devout Christians on the planet aren’t Europeans, either. Moreover, I’d wager my right arm that, the clear majority of practising Christians right now, exist in non-European lands. And, indeed, some of the most devout Christians in Western societies are immigrants from non-European sources. No doubt, I’d bet my left leg being amputated that, the nitwit lecturer who said that Christianity is European, would almost certainly purport that, “maths is racist”: when the reality is that, the fundamental foundations of maths was a collaboration nurtured by the Hindus/Arabs/Muslins, in the latter part of the 6th century and into the ensuing century. The most significant thing to arise in that era was developing what we all take for granted with 0, to 9.

[@TheNormallyOpen]

At odds with a 'Person - Centred Approach', remarkable that this has happened, brava to Amy for standing her ground.

[@WhizzingFish12]

Many professions need to set up alternative accrediting/licensing organizations - that's the lever of power that is employed to keep people quiet. If they try to stop you, let the lawsuits fly.

[@mnsor79]

I'm truely impressed by the strength and perseverance of both of you. I really don't know if I could have endured all that bullying, machinations and narcisistic manipulation. I really hope your cases resolve in the best way possible for you.

[@jennawikler4987]

This is an amazing conversation. It really reminds me of my experiences with the peer-run mental health movement in the U.S. I stepped into the hornets nest by mentioning the term "junk food" in relation to my own diet and where I saw room for improvement. I was taken to task and piled on and screamed at by hoardes of social justice warriors for weeks! They were furious at me for refusing to be re-educated about my oppressive views and how it was something-ist to compare one food to another. When I tried to apologize for all the "harm caused" by my language they said I wasn't sincere enough (I really wasn't.) Eventually the admin "muted" me so I could no longer defending myself. It was all completely imsane. I am 57 years old and do not need to be school right by a bunch of self-righteous kids.

[@paulturner9998]

Thank you ladies, glad to see you getting together about this issue. Appreciate you both 🙏❤

[@KdUqPdI]

The university where I am has just made a critical race theory unit mandatory for all STEM majors. Part of the assessment includes the student having to keep a diary of their participation in whiteness for the semester and have it signed off by the local Aboriginal Centre. Oh, and the unit costs as much by itself as a full semester of my mathematics major units.

[@KdUqPdI]

It's the University of New England (in Australia) fyi.

[@nickjung7394]

There are probably a few unemployable bods who want some work!

[@clarekoesters3031]

Oh my lord, you need to report them to whatever the proper authority is in your area. That’s a total violation of student privacy, which I assume is illegal in most places. How can “participating in whiteness” even be defined, much less evaluated for a grade, much less the content of your assignments shared with an entity outside the university?

[@KdUqPdI]

@@clarekoesters3031 Technically it's part of the university. It provides easier access to the university for Aboriginal students via lower grade requirements for courses, free tutoring, grants and special financial and sport services.

[@Blair_The_B-Witch]

@@KdUqPdI That's outrageous! Affirmative Action needs to be banned!

[@DavePocklington]

How can people be traumatised if you simply knock on a door, and politely explain you are working with a patient could you lower the level of noise? This reminds me of a family member, who while studying at Leeds University, mentioned that she was having problems with a male member of her student digs. Who kept leaving the doors unlocked. When it was asked if she had confronted the man and asked him to lock the doors. She replied that she couldn't possibly do that as it was a micro aggression. University education is now insane nonsense.

[@pygmalionsrobot1896]

One big problem that I've observed is that people are using "Objective Truth' and "Subjective Truth' as if they were interchangeable, as if there is no difference between these things. This is an incredibly toxic fallacy because it is impossible to discern whether the person who is committing the fallacy is aware of the mistake or not. It is possible that they are just ignorant, but it is also possible that people who do this are doing it deliberately. That is problem number 1, and it is widespread, many people are aware of the distinction between Subjective and Objective by many, many people typically have no awareness. Problem number 2 is perhaps even more nefarious and is typically on full display in US political (and media) discourse. We could call it "The Debate, Childishness, Narcissism, Madness Continuum'. What I am suggesting is that there is a continuous path which can be drawn from each of these 4 elements one to the next. This continuum idea is pretty interesting, and it explains how a normally ranged person can evolve smoothly into increased levels of radicalization, ultimately leading to genuine madness. Hope that helps.

[@spartan6005]

They mad because they bought it and you didn’t

[@samirdhindhwal7591]

She's right. It may take some time but alternatives will spring up. People will ALWAYS have the desire to heal/to find support. The humane core of this sort of work WILL prevail, despite short-medium term institutional pressures.

[@WonderfulWorldofAwesomeness]

I suspect this is why so many non-academic counseling programs are popping up all over. People try to discredit them as not being valid, but if they help people there’s no reason not to consider them valid. We’ve had peer support programs such as AA for decades. Peer support seems to be gaining momentum.

[@lindosland]

@@WonderfulWorldofAwesomeness Yes, you don't need to be registered with BACP or anyone to practise and call yourself a psychotherapist in the UK (just not a 'registered' psychologist.)

[@liberality]

​@@lindosland The protected titles in the UK are Practitioner psychologist, Registered psychologist, Clinical psychologist, Forensic psychologist, Counselling psychologist, Health psychologist, Educational psychologist, Occupational psychologist, and Sport and exercise psychologist, according to the Health & Care Professions Council.

[@lindosland]

@@liberality So you would seem to be agreeing with me that psychotherapist is not a protected title, is that correct?

[@liberality]

@@lindosland Yes, that is what their website says.

[@Edward-zw9ld]

Great channel!🎉

[@NinjaKittyBonks]

🐈bonk

[@miroirs-jumeaux]

🥇

[@davidsoper3851]

They're not really that fragile. It's a game. I've encountered this in a different way where you try to express you've been wronged and the person listening turns it around so that they're the victim. I call it the victim bully.

[@OrwellsHousecat]

Some people call it DARVO

[@Nylon_riot]

It's a legitimate form of narcissism. Create a false persona, expect others to engage, and become hostile when the balk the fake persona. Rob Henderson, a sociologist who went to Yale, calls it luxury beliefs. It is a completely self-serving mechanism for weak people to artificially raise themselves in an elitist society where they couldn't normally compete, so they virtue signal to their peers to keep their status. Any outside information is a threat to that bid for power. Hence, the rabid hypocrisy. If they accept information from wbom, they deem poor or stupid, they will become poor and stupid themselves.

[@LawofImprobability-2]

Crybully is another term.

[@randyandretti]

Disgusting. Apparently the degree I earned in 1989 is worthless now. Thank God all of my professors were sane, intelligent and grounded.

[@kristinazakharova3928]

Thank you for this! I'm a psychoanalytic candidate, and unfortunately, I'm encountering similar challenges at my institute. You mentioned racial segregated groups; we have "affinity groups" here too. When I expressed concerns about how these groups might further divide students in one of my classes, I was immediately attacked by several proponents of the ideology. The instructor didn't intervene or attempt to resolve the conflict; it was clear he shared the same perspective as those students. Since then, I've felt very isolated in that class. I've been unable to voice alternative viewpoints on race and gender, which has been a deeply troubling experience. It's reassuring to know that I'm not alone and that there are still rational voices in our field.

[@straypacket]

My intuition is that Critical Theories are making it into psychology/psychiatry in order to allow legal rulings regarding a person's state of mind (read: political position) to be influenced by "expert testimony". In that case, someone who has wrongthink can be placed into the care of the state, deemed incapable of holding certain positions, or perhaps even deserving of having certain rights/privileges revoked.

[@IanLandesman]

Enlightening and good refresher on the state of affairs, but I still NEED to know how we got here to understand how to push back and help myself and my kids survive this. Any insight into WHY this has happened to our institutions???

[@JagWoof]

I'm not a conservative. But were I pursuing a degree in a field like psychology, sociology, or social work, I'd opt for a reputable university that leans toward the right (this may not be feasible in the U.K.). In the U.S., the University of Chicago is an example. They have stood up in opposition to a lot of these backward ideologies.

[@Anirah_Li]

Thank you for this interesting conversation and for posing questions to those around you. I did not study psychology nor do I live in an english speaking country. I do however still see some parallels to what I experienced in my five years of studying art education. I don't think I could finish my degree nowadays. It would take too much energy to constantly tiptoe around everyones feelings and triggers and whatnot. It's scary to think that fields such as psychology and education are filled with people who think (and teach to think) in these harmful and regressiv ways.

[@johnbrown4568]

Thank you for posting this interview with Amy Gallagher.

[@deb8tn]

I believe the Tavistock Institute is one of the worlds most influential shapers of society. And most have never even heard of it. This video just reinforces my opinion.

[@pizaliasta8369]

Thank you both for your dedication to bringing these crazy events to our attention in a credible and sensible manner!

[@samirdhindhwal7591]

I'm so disheartened by this. Emboldened and more confident in my vision of a common humanity between us all (and my confidence in my ability to provide excellent, compassionate clinical services) and also SO, SO disheartened by what's happened to my profession.

[@OrwellsHousecat]

💛🤗

[@dorijoe]

This is a nightmare. Persecuting someone for knocking on a door. I have no words to articulate how much respect I have for Amy for not loosing her mind over this. Her integrity and courage has set a very high bar for the rest of us.

[@anzelaiv]

Thank you for exposing what goes on behind the scenes.

[@anthonybrett]

I hope this is start of a wave of sanity which will wash away the dirt of Post Modern ideology.

[@dieselgav]

Excellent interview.

[@CuriousCattery]

One solve for this could be to let the market decide. I know I would seek out a psychotherapist who openly condemed these ideas and I'm fairly hopeful that most people would do the same rather than opting for brainwashing insted of therapy. At the end of the day a therapist can't survive without patients.

[@paulmead5832]

23:05 I feel so lucky. I've been in therapy for 50 years, and I've never encountered a bad therapist. Psychologists, psychotherapists and psychiatrists, they were all entirely grounded in the notion that a patient/client had to come to terms with their own pathology. I find what you're both relating distressing.

[@samirdhindhwal8701]

You're very lucky. Also it's an issue of age. Newer clinicians are trained more in this way of thinking vs older.

[@laurenholt269]

Amy, your story sounds SO similar to mine. I think we should talk. Perhaps Leslie can put us in touch with one another How can people who are traumatized by a knock on a door and a question in class call themselves competent mental health professionals? This is so twisted it makes me sick to my stomach.

[@amyhartnett4374]

This is insanity.

[@Rawdiswar]

Quite literally.

[@pabloguzman8472]

According to them a white blind person is racist😅

[@markferguson7563]

Where da hell did the lecturer in question, come to the conclusion that, Christianity is European and, therefore (intrinsically), racist? Whoever this person might be, who made this incredibly outlandish accusations, has quite obviously never read anything about the history of Christianity, and its rise. Let’s start with Judea, where Christianity has it base, was populated by Semites. But it was in Egypt, in 42 A.D, in Alexandria that, the Coptic church, which is the oldest continuous tenant of Christianity took root. Once more, Egyptians aren’t Europeans/Caucasians, but are Araboid. Up until 312, when Emperor Constatine converted to Christianity, Europe, and Britain and, indeed, Scandinavia (the Vikings) were outright pagans. Apropos to the latter group, it would take another 6 centuries before they converted to Christianity. But I certainly can’t conclude conveying some basic nuances of the foundations of Christianity, without mentioning the Cappadocian Fathers, who are credited with founding the most sacred and avowed doctrines of Christianity. Once more, these three fathers weren’t Europeans. Finally, some of the most devout Christians on the planet aren’t Europeans, either. Moreover, I’d wager my right arm that, the clear majority of practising Christians right now, exist in non-European lands. And, indeed, some of the most devout Christians in Western societies are immigrants from non-European sources. No doubt, I’d bet my left leg being amputated that, the nitwit lecturer who said that Christianity is European, would almost certainly purport that, “maths is racist”: when the reality is that, the fundamental foundations of maths was a collaboration nurtured by the Hindus/Arabs/Muslins, in the latter part of the 6th century and into the ensuing century. The most significant thing to arise in that era was developing what we all take for granted with 0, to 9.

[@gfys756]

​@@markferguson7563The school/university system.

[@_munkykok_]

Yupp, it's a kind of insanity, but not a regular one. It's an intentionally / systematically induced one, through mass betrayal by evil actors, governmental institutions and pretend-independent media. Plus, some people are obviously deluding themselves in order to cope with things, and some are intellectually so challenged that they possibly really think they're doing good by taking part in the Great Indoctrination. (#SystemicCorruption, #MassDerangement, #MaskedEvil)

[@calmon-ground962]

Thank you for this conversation. Great insights.

[@damianoneill2637]

My 2 heros in the same video. Thank you both.

[@nrqed]

What a great interview! Thank you to both of you.

[@randomobserver8168]

Critical Theory, all of it and not just the subset on race issues now spoken of most often as Critical Race Theory, is, to be generous, a perspective. It is not remotely an objective description of material reality or even a reasonably neutrally descriptive take on human reality, or even pretending to be one among many competing selective takes on human reality. It is explicitly a system dedicated to the advancement of an explicit ideological program with goals, not to description and analysis, and it is dedicated to the exclusion of any other perspective, eventually if not indeed immediately. That we now have a couple of generations trained to think it is as accurate, true, neutral, objective, scientific and valid as arithmetic or chemistry means it is too late. It's basically religion, except without the space for the secular world that religion generally left in most places. Imagine if, instead of being persecuted by rival scholars pushing Ptolemaic astronomy or early Copernicanism, Galileo had been hounded for failing to have his paper account for the magic actions on the angels who kick the planets around.

[@smcqueen123]

This is very brave, hope you carry on and take them to court. However, this story only demonstrates to me that so many Universities are over and a complete waste of time and money.

[@herecomesthesun21]

I'm listening to her story in the beginning and just constantly saying to myself OMG, that is totally crazy!

[@sarahhale-pearson533]

My loss of faith and respect in the field of ‘medicine’ is complete.

[@Andrew-rc3vh]

Yes indeed, start training as a medic and end up as a qualified lawyer, as per if she wins her case, that qualifies her as the kind of lawyer you would go to if you had a problem.

[@berndhoffmann7703]

In all seriousness i hope those people will never have patients! That is braunwashing technique not helping, and as we have seen with GiDS they should be defunded, I cannot fathom they ate in the NHS!

[@rebeccab.463]

Bravo! Brilliant conversation!

[@TheQutapi]

I love how they complained about your tone, but when you say anything about SJW yelling they say you are tone policing them.

[@zak-a-roo264]

SO.....knocking on a door is traumatizing but CALLING YOU OUT for everything is no worries ?!?!

[@OrwellsHousecat]

The Tavistock was setup to handle the social engineering part of Statecraft.

[@liberality]

The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations was, but that is not the same as the original Tavistock Clinic. What they have in common is their Freudian origins.

[@OrwellsHousecat]

@@liberality you think they are different? 😹

[@liberality]

@@OrwellsHousecat Yes, separate since 1947. The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations is not part of the Tavistock and Portman NHS Trust and has an entirely different building.

[@OrwellsHousecat]

@@liberality distinction without a difference. The project & oversight is the same regardless of the buildings & companies-house filings. Presumably you'd think that the BBC UK agenda has nothing to do with BBC Africa agenda because they told you that and use different buildings. Naiive or just pedantic to the point of idiocy?

[@liberality]

@@OrwellsHousecat That's rude of you. Organisations diverge over 70 years.

[@SociologistEugenFitzherbert]

this is why im not planning to do the training for psychotherapy

[@utubewillyman]

18:08 They want to meet with you? Now nice. Better that they meet with your attorney. 22:40 Teacher broke down crying? Did you happen to tell her that her tears were overvalued?

[@margaretwinson402]

How is it possible that teachers can feel unsafe at student questions? Feels so false.

[@NeraBuffy]

Because they're exposed. It's the fear of a pickpocket when they get called out in a crowded bus.

[@siras2]

​@@NeraBuffyExactly, their reasoning is so utterly feeble and fundamentally unsound that they dare not allow anyone to question it.

[@DarkAngel2512]

It is. Its a lie to shut ppl down

[@strawberryseason]

What is "White"? Is Persian white? Lebanese? Turkish? Greek? What is the proper amount of melanin in one's skin necessary to be "of color"?

[@headpump]

It's an assault on European countries and USA involved in colonialism from 1500 to 1900. It ignores all slavery practiced by non-Europeans in Africa, the Middle East, Asia, South America, etc. Ironically, these European countries and USA were the first countries to abolish slavery..

[@Hollyucinogen]

Also, I'm half-black and half-white, but very light-skinned and I have green eyes. Do I count? 🤔

[@sheerwillsurvival2064]

I am going to comment on everything Amy is on to get her algorithms going. She’s awesome 😊

[@Rick_Cleland]

I'm almost sure I seen Amy on *_GB News._*

[@Davysprocket213]

God bless both of you ladies. You both have courageously spoken truth to power. Thank you for illuminating the fact that critical social justice has taken over healthcare and education. I’m not an academic, but I believe it will have a disastrous end if this course is not changed.

[@RiffRock51]

Amy's calm and rational way of dealing with this insanity is exactly what we need.

[@mortagon1451]

These people are in a cult. Normal people don't turn to threats, bullying and gaslighting when someone challenges their beliefs. These are cult tactics.

[@AndreRain]

Amy Gallagher has my vote for Mayor

[@christianbolt5761]

New Culture Forum frequent guest in the house 😊

[@michel4music]

Maybe she can reach out to Sargon of Akkad aswell, he 'll be glad to host I would think

[@clarekoesters3031]

I mean...technically Christianity is Middle Eastern, not European. If Christianity is "European," it is also African, South American, etc.

[@angelozachos8777]

What an insane take 😂 Was there even something called the “MIDDLE EAST” 2000 years ago ? The Lenape Indians once occupied what is now New York City - So , should we consider Lenape peoples as NEW YORKERS ? And you received 4 Thumbs Up 👍🏼 for that inane comment 😂 Wow 😂

[@light9999]

@@angelozachos8777 And the same thinking would say humans are really apes. No really rodents. No really fish. No really sponges. Well clearly some people are sponges.

[@danielclark6532]

@@angelozachos8777 Dont be willfully dense.

[@kronos77]

Angelozachos...I read your comment twice and couldnt make sense of it.

[@theskyizblue2day431]

@@angelozachos8777go back, please. Why are you in white people world?

[@stevenvegh7964]

It still boggles my mind that full grown adults should be so taken by some of the most stupid ideas I’ve ever heard of

[@NOT_SURE..]

similar thing happened to me at work , but i just told them to fk off , so they kicked me out of my job and flat during a no eviction order 2 weeks before christmas , nice people the juice.

[@rbruce89]

What is really annoying about all of this for me is when she says "it was painful for THEM to be challenged on it". First things first. If they're sincerely feeling pain, it's cognitive dissonance from dealing with contradiction to their programming. If the pain is insincere, it's from awareness and manipulation. Secondly, why doesn't anyone want to know exactly who they are? Where did they go to school? During what years? Who were the teachers during those years? Where did those teachers come from? Who were THEIR teachers? Follow the educational trail to get to the root of when it began, how and why.

[@DarkAngel2512]

Critical theories stem from Frankfurt school of thought

[@yunggolem4687]

This all makes sense if you look into the history of the Tavistock Institute.

[@nordic2112]

You both regularly describe teachers unable to handle your requests for clarification who end up losing their shit. It's the perfect description of narcissistic rage at (imaginary) criticism. Modern left society rewards narcissists. Scary!

[@stephenpoole5331]

No offense, Amy, but WHY are you trying to reason with these people? They have ZERO interest in what you have to say!

[@pixie3458]

Well done Amy 😊 it is noticeable how critical thinking skills seem to be absent in so many arenas. I suspect education by numbers over the last 30 years has something to do with it. No knowledge of even recent history is so alarming

[@gregorysmull8068]

I considered going into psychiatry and rotated in an elite program while in med school to get a look at it first hand. My conclusion was that many of the therapists were nearly as ill as the patients. The question came to mind of the chicken or the egg. Did the profession drive them mad or were they attracted to it because they were mad in the first place? Granted a small sample, but these were some of the best in the profession. In any event I opted not to pursue this profession as a result of this experience. The problem so far this century is relativism something very prevalent in contemporary philosophies. If there are no absolute truths and principles to guide your behavior, then everything becomes arbitrary and subject to today's feelings. Your life and behavior then fairly quickly descend into disorder, dissolution, and madness.

[@malirk]

42:00 - Jordan Peterson is the most famous pop psychologist. Peterson has not been pivotal like Freud or Skinner. Furthermore, psychology doesn't move on the views/tweets of one man. Psychology builds on mountains of research. While Jordan Peterson has published quite a bit, he isn't really involved in research any more. His google scholar mainly shows his books and articles about why he isn't a professor.

[@theradicalcenter]

The point of our discussion about Jordan Peterson wasn't that he has introduced important research or theories, but that he was a very famous person in the field we were studying and yet we couldn't speak his name for fear of being blacklisted in our programs.

[@malirk]

@@theradicalcenter I agree he is a famous person in the field of psychology but not for ground breaking research. He's famous in the sense of Hollywood famous. What has he contributed to the discipline? Why bring him up in the field? His takes about Elliot Page seem to be more his opinion than research driven psychology.

[@theradicalcenter]

Again, that's beside the point of the discussion.

[@malirk]

@@theradicalcenter I'm wondering why bring him up in a program if his research isn't being mentioned? It seems like mentioning intelligent design in an Evolution class. Dr. Peterson isn't influential in the literature. So why even bring him up while learning the field? Also, do we have examples of people being blacklisted for just mentioning him? While agree it could theoretically happen, I don't know of any actual examples.

[@theradicalcenter]

You may wish to listen to that part again if you're having trouble understanding the context.

[@ejenkins4711]

Have yiu read Maria and France

[@DoReMeaCulpa]

It seems to me that this woman has been relentlessly harassed and intimidated. It is as though they set their sights on her and doubled down. I wish i could say I am shocked, but there are so many other stories like this that I am no longer truly shocked. Horrified and appalled is more like it. I hope she wins big time and that the perpetrators are made to pay a steep price.

[@Sas1256x]

Psychology has ALWAYS been mad. They've had one bad theory after another, all which go out of fashion within a decade or 2. Eg all the the Freud insanity & psychoanalysis, recovered memory, refrigerator mother theory, now this gender nonsense, anything Bessel Van Der Kolk is currently espousing about trauma, etc etc The practitioners in this field should be looked at as almost being social scientist majors because half the time what they're doing is based on weird theory and opinion and is not constrained by evidence. Its shocking this field hasn't lost all credibility by now tbh.

[@Dupertron-lo9pz]

Good luck Amy 👍

[@martinhodgson1996]

It just gets more insane the longer you listen.

[@stevem815]

Just out if interest, what percentage of this institution were women?

[@Bertrussell396]

Listening to this story…it is truly Unbelievable!!!!

[@AlexDeLarge77]

My mate who was having problems in his marriage. He went for counselling. The councillor was a woman. She took his wife side on everything, gas lite him constantly and made him take responsibility for everything wrong in the marriage. He was suicidal as a result. He left his wife and it took him years to recover. Thank god he didn’t do anything stupid but if he did that councillor would have had a hand in this. Sisterhood Über Alles is real. We live in a time where it is perfectly acceptable to hate men.