An Agony of Effort, The True Story of Bloodborne - Part VII: Laurence & Ludwig

[@bazookaace]

To me, the absolutely indisputable connection between Lister and Ludwig is the absolute proof that this series cracked bloodborne

[@A.D.I.D.A.S-916]

Right? This dude is so sick I always come back to rewatch these videos lol

[@davejacob5208]

these links are so extremely disputable, i have no idea how you could think they come anywhere near "indisputable"...

[@Bojangus-]

@@davejacob5208the only concepts that have a stronger link than what we see here are the fishing hamlet and the great ones to the Cthulhu mythos. I’ve seen dozens of videos that claim Bloodborne is a lovecraftian game and none of them come close to the amount of connections as this series. Charred has nailed the essence of Bloodborne in this series in a way no other creator has.

[@davejacob5208]

@@Bojangus- you have a serious issue of mistaking correlation with causation if you think such arguments as put forward about lister and ludwig "nail" anything. and by contrast, bloodborne literally uses terms like "old ones" to refer to the ancient beasts, that is not even "coming close to" lovecraft, that IS lovecraftian terminology.

[@Bojangus-]

@@davejacob5208 read my comment again and tell me if I said the Gods of Bloodborne weren’t from Lovecraft. If you can’t read my comment well enough to understand what I’m saying then I don’t trust you to understand what Charred is saying.

[@GabrielCarusetta]

These are the kind of videos that make me understand why KZbin is more popular than any other media streaming service

[@dflosounds]

I didn't know it was possible to have an existential crisis about video game lore, but here we are. It's like everything I thought I understood about Bloodborne has been turned upside-down. This series is amazing.

[@grey.knight]

William and John HUNTER were two early surgeons from Scotland from the generation before Lister. John was an infamous bodysnatcher. William was famous anatomist who studied the gravid uterus.

[@drmanhattan730]

The return of the king🛐🛐👑

[@knightforlorn6731]

I completely agree with your assumtions. I read doctor Jeckyl and immediately this is one of the things which obvious leaps off the page.

[@aldrixlevy228]

This man is absolutely solving bloodborn lore as if it was nothing

[@SuperAmaton]

I've heard of Lister before but I've never thought he had anything to do with Bloodborne!

[@rafaceschin1]

Makes sense that his sword is the color of Listerine

[@TheRealChacorta]

Ludwig being the first Church Hunter doesn’t mean he was not a hunter prior to that. Only that he adopted the medium under which he operated as a church hunter AFTER gehrman and what not

[@devinwalter1497]

hey i just wanted to say, that I´m really happy these videos (and you) are back. I love this lore-series. i just wonder, where are part 4 and 6? Will you upload them later on?

[@TheCharredThermos]

Yeah, I uploaded Part VI last night but there was a problem with the audio. I'll get it fixed and upload it today. Part IV is forever dead and buried, though. Fortunately, the few worthwhile points from that episode are covered in later videos of the series, so you're not missing anything important.

[@devinwalter1497]

@@TheCharredThermos Thx for the answer and have a great day :)

[@ViciousVirusV2]

It’s crazy how these parallels line up 🥵

[@etinarcadiaego7424]

So Lister was a giant horse monster? I never knew that!

[@se7enwonders]

CT, thank you so much for this series. I can’t believe how late I am to it, but I’m seeing it’s praises far and wide, anywhere and everywhere lol. I have a quick question for you. Honestly I feel like I’m gonna have a lot of questions going forth lol. But it’s only because of how passionate about and in love I am with Bloodborne. I follow everything you say about Lawrence and his skull and its ape like appearance. So what does this mean about the way we see him during the fight? It makes me wonder about early theories of the entire game. Is this a projection of himself? Is this how he sees himself? Is this how we simply see him in our hallucination?

[@Pie-Eyed]

Incredible. Thank you for your content, KING

[@tysaylor7079]

Really glad to see your content back up! Some of the ideas are really interesting and your work here was valuable

[@tonysladky8925]

Man, if Ludwig is Lister, I *do not* want to try the Yharnam version of the mouthwash that's named after him. Ludwighine? No thank you...

[@SixLittleDaggers]

Blue Elixir.

[@lorenfulghum2393]

🤣

[@diandrea4]

The True Mystery is how could Laurence physically establish the Healing Church and blood ministration using ancient ptumerian blood found deep in the tombs if his body is the Holy Medium / Body found in the tombs?

[@10hawell]

He went into tomb, drank blood there died, was brought back and his blood got used? Idk. I don't support that idea, I'm much more in a camp that he found a Great One Beast (cut boss) and used his blood to create beast blood and blood of ebryatas was used only on celestial emisary and living falures. And Laurence's skull can be two skulls, both his own skull and skull that he got in the tomb maybe from Great One Beast.

[@Cpt.McMorpheus]

His body perhaps became the medium for the choir after he died? Having been the first vicar, he probably had the least diluted blood. 🤷

[@cat_and_cabbage4662]

Laurence literally became The Christ, like his boss arena shows, he imbibed the Old Blood, filling his body and transforming him into a (sort of immortal, at least resurrecting) beast. His body was snatched and autopsied and from his body was extracted the healing medium, The good blood of the healing church.

[@neoharryeden]

I think the problem in this series is that sometimes it confuses inspiration and meaning, and the use of the same thing for multiple simbols. Like the beasts; sometimes their are a representation of the addiction, others the representation of the bodys used in anatomy studies.

[@GallantBlade475]

Yeah, one very obvious weakness so far is that despite how compelling the individual details are, those details aren't really being pulled together to form a coherent narrative. Like, what is the commonality between victims of addiction and graverobbing? It's a fascinating comparison so surely there's a reason From Software is making it right?

[@LunerKunai]

Yeah, it's stretching credibility with statements like "X location in BB is meant to represent Y location in real life" from the previous episode. There are enough nuggets of truth that I feel they did indeed look into a lot of 19th century stuff for inspiration (including Victorian era architecture, RL Stevenson, and so on), but the way this series is presented is missing huge gaps that don't really fit in very well. The way this series comes accross is as if Miyazaki and others in From Software were REALLY into the history of this specific city's medical universities when it's far more likely they took broad strokes from all accross Europe. You see it in names like Henryk, Ludwig, and Gehrman which are obviously German names. Names are sometimes just names. In another video he posits a connection between someone named Joseph and Iosefka because the latter derives from Iosef. The presentation makes it seem like a slam dunk, until you look into how common the name Joseph is, and how many surgeons of the time period had the name as well. You could point to any other one of the mid 19th Joseph's and draw the same name conclusion.

[@oliverbowden1240]

That picture of Hyde looks dead on like the town folk in bloodborne

[@98Dreadboy]

This video was mindblowing I feel like I get more insight from every video I might soon ascend miyazaki must have done his damn research clever those people at fromsoftware

[@truekotek]

What about Ludwig’s visual appearance? As it is 100% inspired and almost identical to the horse from Berserk. Does it add any significance to his symbolism? Or does it connect to the overall themes of this analysis?

[@voidwalker5784]

1:28 is... is that Nicholas Cage?

[@BadAtGaming100]

25:54 is this why we call things “gross?”

[@micolashcarc]

HOOOOOOOOLY SHIT

[@Alfred_bb]

Where is part 3

[@TheCharredThermos]

Part III is available. Part IV is not and never will be. The series jumped from III to IV and continues to do that.

[@Alfred_bb]

@@TheCharredThermos ooo no sad news

[@farted161]

​@@TheCharredThermoswhat did part 4 contain?

[@TheCharredThermos]

@@farted161 Some stuff on Byrgenwerth that was way, way wrong...and some stuff that was accurate and consistent with the series that I end up mentioning in later videos. There's really not much that was lost. I'm glad it's dead.