An AtGames Console That’s NOT Terrible?

[@sonicmario64]

That's not the wolf's tongue that he uses to break the bricks and grab the pigs in "Oink!"; It's actually supposed to be his breath, since he's trying to blow down the pigs' houses just like in "The Three Little Pigs", which is what the game is most likely based upon.

[@Dark.Shingo]

Jesus Christ, I thought this was going to go in a very weird direction...

[@chrishensley5384]

I was happy to find out that the paddles from the Atgames set works on the original Atari 2600.

[@NotMuchHere]

thanks .. that answers the question >9 pin din < or usb A

[@pojr]

Nice. I meant to try this, and I assumed they would work, but didn't have a chance to.

[@aiodensghost8645]

They'll work on the 2600+ and 7800+ as well, then.

[@Larry]

Have you ever considered taking a look at the Evercade consoles? They're pretty neat, and a nice legal way to own games no longer in production.

[@pojr]

I do want to look at the Evercade console. I'm impressed by the lineup of games it has, and like you said, a perfectly legal way to play them all.

[@Phoenix6652]

I've been seeing comments in the retro handheld groups that sometimes the carts stop working. I commented on one of those posts that maybe their Evercade is bad but they insist that it's a well known issue that the carts just randomly quit working. Have either of you heard of this happening?

[@Vekstar]

Obligatory HELLO YOU

[@robertpeacock894]

@@Phoenix6652I never had a cart stop working and I owned a ton of them. I did however have a console die on me.

[@onldhes]

Why didn't you accept Pat Contri's money you turd?

[@darthkai8242]

First time seeing that trademark Pojr smile without the braces!

[@pojr]

Nice! It will be like this for now on

[@RetroCave-wr9tl]

Nice video. Thrift stores online are full of these Flashbacks. There is a modding community for Flashbacks starting with model X (10). You can add all the games via SD card. Also, other Atari consoles without paddles - they have hybrid hardware i.e. they incorporated paddle to part of the joystick either to the stick itself or a knob in the joystick.

[@Write-Stuff]

POJR, you've got a nice thing going here. Appealing presentation, calming narration and music. I dig it, my friend.

[@pojr]

Appreciate that!

[@TCSGamingThroughTheAges]

I bought this probably right when it came out as there wasn’t much reviews for it. I was familiar with the 50th Anniversary Flashback Gold and really this is the exact same thing as that but with the firmware updates AtGames added after criticisms from many including GenXGrownUp with paddle controllers being inconsistent are now baked in and not needed to do an online update to use. Not one-to-one with original hardware still but using the paddle controllers is buttery smooth and fun to use even in its current state. This I would say may be the first AtGames console that may not surpass but is at the level of the best mini consoles including Nintendo’s NES & SNES classics and SEGA’s Genesis & Astro City minis. I’ve been using this and the Atari 50 combined to see Atari history in order of release on stream and it’s been fascinating not just how things have not just progressed or even prompted progression but also seeing essentially a halt in Atari after the video game crash. Even crazy that I’m now in the games of 1984 and I still haven’t gotten through all the games on either Atari 50 or the Flashback 12 (or I call it the Atari 2600 Mini). That thing had a crazy long console life.

[@carlo1132]

The flashack 12 gold is really good I have been telling people about it for awhile. I own it and the 2600+, new VCS. The flashback gold 12 has a great line up and sideloading is easy with usb splitter, its WAY better than the Gamestation Pro, which I also own.

[@MeSoup-e4h]

I bought mine direct for about 100 bucks, it has a great included games list and I used GXG to help me figure out the firmware update and adding roms via usb.

[@JeepMan-vo4ob]

We bought that Gamestation Pro from Costco for 90 dollars I think and we hated it, it looked cool but the joystick hurts your hand. My wife picked up the Atgames Flashback Gold 12 and we like it alot better, try hunting down all these carts would cost a fortune and this has hdmi out. Love the paddles, Night Driver!

[@Cjx0r]

THE BRACES ARE OFF

[@JetScreamer_YT]

I have some of these consoles, and anthologies. I decided to go in a different direction. I bought an Anbernic Cube. It's made to emulate retro. It will emulate up to PS2 and Wii. It can even be attached to a television and a Bluetooth controller. It runs Android. I'd recommend a good handheld over these fun but janky re-releases. Or don't. If you're having fun that's the most important thing.

[@ShanetheFreestyler]

I miss the Atari paddles. You just simply can't play Super Breakout with a regular controller!

[@themidcentrist]

I wish there were spinner and trackball controllers available for the switch, but the problem would be games that are already released may not be able to support them.

[@ShanetheFreestyler]

@@themidcentrist The problem is, spinners and trackballs are more niche than racing wheels! Though, since they're less complex, they're also less expensive. After all, you don't need any fancy resistive torque motors for a spinner as most games that used one had no use for them. Likewise, a trackball doesn't need any force feedback, though it's worth mentioning that there almost was one for Marble Madness. An early idea for the game was to have a motorized trackball that resisted quick movements and simulated your marble's inertia. Would've been cool to have the trackball jerk around as you collide off walls and such, but the complexity probably would've made the game too costly to produce... At least for PCs you can easily find both trackball and spinner controllers for arcade emulation, so if you want to play those old games the right way, you should look into one. I don't think they're too expensive, but they might require some DIY.

[@segahatty]

Can't believe they're still around.

[@CURTO-vq2po]

They make the best multicade arcade cabinet and the best vpin around for the money, they are more than just around, they are killing it.

[@therollingcreeper1]

Me neither

[@losalfajoresok]

They're not the "original" Atari anymore, is just the name, a lot of companies passed the license through the years, and now someone else is releasing the console

[@segahatty]

@losalfajoresok AtGames was Atari once?

[@losalfajoresok]

@@segahatty not to my knowledge

[@josephjones7828]

As many others have mentioned, AtGames supports on their website official firmware updates for the Flashback 12 (as well as the Flashback 50th, Flashback X and Flashback 9). These official AtGames firmware updates allow you to play the entire 2600 library on each of the Flashbacks as long as the roms are connected to the Flashback by external storage (an SD card for Flashback 9 or a memory stick/thumb drive attached to a USB splitter for Flashback X, 50th and 12). The Atari Age forums also have their own custom firmware updates for these Flashbacks if you want extra bells and whistles for these extra 2600 games & home brew, like adding box art or flashing the new roms directly onto the Flashback. As for not including the 2600 version of Space Invaders, I believe that has to do with a legal red tape thing with Taito. Taito does not like the 2600 version of Space Invaders (they see it as being inferior in the same way most people see the 2600 version of Pac Man). So Taito would only sign off on allowing AtGames to include Space Invaders on the Flashback if it were a new version of the game made specific for the Flashback. A similar thing is true with Konami and Frogger on the older Flashbacks like the Flashback X or earlier. The Flashback version of Frogger is entirely new version of the game made specific for the Flashbacks. Luckily, both the 2600 version of Space Invaders and Frogger are still playable on the Flashbacks through the official firmware update and use of roms on external storage method as listed above.

[@bowds7]

You didn’t mention that the the Atari Gold has save, rewind, add to favourite games list and scan lines features but most off all you can mod this little unit using an OTG cable and a USB drive and add nearly 1000 Atari 2600 games from the how to videos on KZbin. I love this console so much that I bought 3 of them . 1 Gold and 2 of them were the standard that can be upgraded to Gold. This is a brilliant little console and I hope to mod one of my original Atari 2600 and add one of these modded versions to the original.

[@lorensims4846]

I bought that first Flashback, curious to see the 7800 games. Needless to say I was quite disappointed. I found only Centipede and Asteroids to be actually playable. After being pleased with the 400 Mini (as an old Atari 800 owner) I decided to check out this new Atari Flashback 12 Gold. Compared to the reviews I've seen for the older versions it looks like they've FINALLY got the Flashback right. I heard the paddles didn't work on earlier versions, but paddles are critical for authentic Atari video games. Yes, these paddle controllers are identical to the paddles I bought for use with the 400 Mini and even the original paddle controllers I bought for my Atari 800 back in the day. The Space Invaders looks like the Deluxe Invaders cartridge I got for my Atari 800. It IS more like the arcade version which is good for me. I was never interested in the original Atari VCS because of the primitive graphics. I was all about the Atari 400/800 Home Computer Systems. I've only recently come to appreciate the playability of these 2600 games, even with their primitive graphics.

[@rustymixer2886]

Check out thier sega genesis flashback 2018 and 110 arcade flashback 2019 units, the best and you can rewind roms

[@pcachu]

You didn't try to hide the subject of the video in the thumbnail like it's some sort of clickbait mystery. Sub earned.

[@couchmonster]

I have the legends ultimate, and it's the price of a 1up, but almost full sized, and takes your own roms with no modding. They've come a long way from the old plug and play consoles.

[@NimhLabs]

AtGames has really gotten their act together since acquiring the rights to Ms Pacman. Though the Pinball 4K does have some issues--but those are more due to Zen/FX's nonsense with Pinball than AtGames Oh, as per other options for Atari games, Evercade/HyperMegaTech's Super Pocket has an Atari edition

[@jwise209]

Honey wake up, POJR about to smile

[@pojr]

😂

[@cryptocoffee13]

I have almost all the AtGames Flashback Atari units, and this is the best one. I have a USB connected via a cable with over 500 games on it. The joystick and paddles it comes with work well with it.

[@intel386DX]

the missing switch on the left side in the middle driving me crazy .

[@jeancarleo]

You can actually add more games to this console. Look it up, I did it to mine but I don’t play it as much. I need to get back to it. But you need a 2 in-1 Micro USB (OTG Cable with Power) Adapter Replacement for Fire Stick 4K /Host Devices/PlayStation Classic etc-.

[@No-OneSpecial000]

wow perfect timing for a vid, I saw a flashback 12 at a shop just yesterday

[@SirAzur3]

I have the Atari Gamestation Pro and I was having a difficult time getting the hang of the paddle, I guess it takes practice or maybe the bigger knob on the real paddles is what makes it easier.

[@carlo1132]

I have both the GSP and this and its no comparison. But to play the GSP you might need to add a 3d printed wheel to the knob. For night driver I really whip the knob and there is also a knob sensitivity setting in the menu.

[@Earths1stgamer]

I think they need to make one that has 2600 games we havent seen on any of the previous FB's yet. They keep rereleasing the same games over and over.

[@pojr]

I'm curious if there's enough games to pick from that they haven't included yet. I feel like they have included most of Atari's properties on them, and there isn't much else.

[@Earths1stgamer]

Ill check this out and let you know but out of the 200 first party games it seems like they keep rereleasing the same line of games now i know they have 130 games but out of the 70 left is there any that are not on one of the FBs?

[@PitfallHarry72]

It can utilize ROMs from a USB flash drive with an OTG cable.

[@alexxbaudwhyn7572]

Re: Controllers As a Retrogaming purist and collector since the 80s (yes, when everyone went nes, sega, I scarfed up all the closeout Vectrex, Atari, Intv, 😊), agreed that with every retro game console, emulation or og hardware, you should be using og controllers for that console. The Atgames repro sticks, pads and paddles are fine, as the match the design and performance of the vintage og. The Gamestation and others like it should have the option to use og controllers with og connections, even if adapter needed.

[@MichaelconnerPemberton-b2s]

Personally I think the Atari flashback portable are the best flashbacks, especially the 80 version. It has many games you won’t find on any other flashback from at games and it plays really well! Only complaint is the composite output, though I personally don’t have any issues with it.

[@diegolobo7664]

Really happy to see that your community keeps growing!

[@pojr]

Thank you! Honestly I'm happy about it too

[@clinte5]

You can add more games on this console by updating the firmware and purchasing an OTG cable (On the go) cable and a USB flash drive. You then go to the Atari age forums and download the firmware and roms, update the firmware and then add the games under the rom folder on the USB drive and you will have tons and tons of Atari 2600 games!! But yes, I agree that version of Space Invaders is terrible, it should definitely be the original 2600 version instead of that arcade port.

[@metronome8471]

Flashback 8 is my fav only cause it has av cables for my CRTv.

[@doodfamnfriends8195]

I've always been curious about all those! I know I can count on this channel for in depth info!

[@alexxbaudwhyn7572]

For the past several years, maybe decade, there is ZERO excuse for not including either an sd/microsd slot and or usb port for memory sticks, card readers to add your own roms, software, os updates, firmware updates. And, or wifi for same reasons, plus leaderboards and online multiplayer, like 1up arcade cabs.

[@MrClawt]

The fact that POJR can say stuff like demons turn to skeletons so avoid non red demons and it makes perfect sense is why I love Atari games

[@005AGIMA]

I had no idea the FB2 was hardware non a chip. That's kind of cool. Shame it doesn't let you sideload roms. The Flashback 9 does. The only thing I don't like about the 9 is the paddles are not compatible with the originals and that's the only version they changed the resistance for the paddles on. Seemed like an odd move.

[@BlueMSX.]

it's interesting how many ways there are to play Atari 2600 games, good video Pojr!

[@pojr]

Thank you!

[@jackplumley3308]

Look at those pearly whites! Always the highlight of my day!

[@PhantomHarlock78]

My Atari Flashback X has an issue where like 1% of the time the fire button is not registred. Tried new firmware and same thing. Is very frustating when is in that jump you can´t miss or enemy that need to detroy. You need to play a little more than a couple of minutes to start to notice.

[@ravensmadhouse75]

If I remember, Activision bought Imagic's Library.

[@MrClawt]

This console can be moded to side load all the 2600 games.

[@bltvd]

The amazon reviews say these fall apart pretty quick with regular use.

[@IuriFiedoruk]

Small correction: first AtrGames Flashbacks were also NES on a chip, they moved to emulation much later (I think on v8).

[@pojr]

Do you have a source for this? My understanding is Atari Flashback 1 is NES on a chip, Flashback 2 is real hardware on a chip, and all the ones after it are software emulation.

[@CalTheHogNosedBat]

4:53, can't believe you gooned in your vid. :-P

[@FeralInferno]

Hmm would it be possible to use the AtGames controllers on the My Arcade system?

[@JMFSpike]

AtGames has always been great with those Atari Flashback consoles, but every other product in existence with "AtGames" plastered on it should be avoided like the plague.

[@AloanMoreira1]

is the flashback 12 gold fpga?

[@pojr]

I wish, but unfortunately no.

[@McAlby]

Surprised to find the V-Rally level entry jingle in the videos. I did that!

[@pojr]

Indeed. Maybe not the first game you would expect lol.

[@jaym5118]

With great Atari collection games like Atari 50 Expanded Edition, I feel like these Flashback consoles (even the better made ones) are all a waste of money. In fact, I've even been considering selling the ones I have.

[@1-eye-willy]

when they used to only release $20-25 consoles i never had a problem with the quality of the emulation. ive had most of them from the flash backs, to the mega drives, the hand helds, and even those hd fire stick looking things with the white controllers. i think yall are being purposely obtuse about those older atgames consoles, they run the games just fine and so what if the audio channels are off its that much of a problem maybe you should emulate on your pc or smart phone, or get an everdrive and play the games on a real console

[@deadtek]

POJR has the greatest smile on KZbin 👍👍😀keep up the good work

[@suplexpizza]

pojr without braces is a new era frfr😳

[@rustymixer2886]

Check out thier sega genesis flashback 2018 and 110 arcade flashback 2019 units, the best and you can rewind roms

[@pojr]

I've heard so-so things about the Genesis Flashback. At least the sound isn't as bad as the ones before it though

[@rustymixer2886]

@pojr the 2018 version with sd card is amazing, and if you picodrive hack it, it plays sega cd and 32x games too ;)

[@SoulforSale]

Controls are the key to success.

[@pojr]

Indeed, and the controllers here are amazing

[@ghostbombl8034]

I got flash 2 for modding it into cart slot.longs its not switching it will work your carts.

[@MikeDest]

Oink is probably my favorite 2600 game.

[@sa3270]

I wish they'd make one with Pac-Man on it, but I know most people would freak out.

[@Savitor]

Great video POJR, glad you removed the fake braces. 😁👍

[@mchenrynick]

I wish THAT console had an SD card slot, so downloaded ROMs could be played on a console with very original-like controllers. The Gamestation's controller is awful!

[@battra92]

No Cosmic Ark is a crime.

[@pojr]

100% true!

[@FaTBoYs_GaMInG_N_NoNsEnSe]

Lets Go It's POJR 😃

[@GerardPinzone]

*fewer buckets.

[@ridiculous_gaming]

The game station controller is terrible while wireless, but it's much better when connected with a wire.

[@nsgames24]

Okay seriously. How many more of these flashback consoles is this company gonna keep making?

[@vodkatonic814]

Flashback 6,256 coming out soon.

[@rustymixer2886]

Check out thier sega genesis flashback 2018 and 110 arcade flashback 2019 units, the best and you can rewind roms

[@pojr]

When I was doing research for the video, I don't think they've made an Atari Flashback console every year. I didn't see one for 2024. This one is the newest one that I'm aware of.

[@rustymixer2886]

@@pojr they made them from 2005 to 2022, about 20 models counting "gold editions" and deluxe ones

[@blakeharvard5841]

Overall not a fan of Atari. N64,PS2, Sega Genesis, and SNES are my favorite consoles of all time.

[@W4lmartbag]

Do you use ai for your scripts?just asking

[@mage1439]

Read the title. I don't believe it.

[@80skid61]

What sucks though is that they give you a European power adapter.

[@_dexx7]

AM I GOING INSANE OR AM I HEARING THINGS CUZ I AM HEARING THE N WORD! 4:51

[@jnorten]

were you given this product to review or did you pay for it?

[@Neotron2001]

The Atari Game Station Pro is awesome. Worth every penny.

[@mr.y.mysterious.video1]

tgese are all so primitive i wonder if the games have value beyond nostalgia

[@jeffm5056]

First

[@PowerLvL9000]

This looks interesting

[@m1rock]

My favorite AtGames consoles where the ColecoVision and Intellivision flash backs. Loved the selection of games and rare homebrews and having replica controllers and inserts was awesome.

[@desertcoliseum]

IT'S POJR