An Inside Look at BMW's Carbon Fiber Manufacturing Process
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@KenFung8 жыл бұрын
8:24 brave Germany, wearing a "tie" and standing next to a rolling machine.
@vigi868 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean, I certainly would have respect to approach a machine with a tie. But it isn't like he is bowing towards the machine. ;-) I think he knows those machines very well.
@timi707_112 жыл бұрын
@00Mass00 Carbon fiber gets it's name from the fact that it is mostly composed of carbon atoms. Carbon is an element (atomic number 6), it's name comes from the Latin "Carbo", meaning coal. Carbon fiber does not carbonize, because it already is carbon. (Carbonization is when an organic material containing carbon is heated and releases that carbon.) Carbon fiber sublimates (transitions from a solid directly to a gas) at 3642ºC. Some carbon composites are heat resistant (carbon-carbon) some aren't
@sirpfa5 жыл бұрын
Hi are you carbon expert?
@rodoxxs61344 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanation. Do you are Chemical engineer PhD. ?
@kennysender68047 жыл бұрын
The best thing in this video was the robotic arms in the end , they seem to be more complex then the carbon fibre ...
@malcolmsmith63807 жыл бұрын
Why isn't it cheaper to do everything in one area from precursor to sheets of carbon fiber? All that shiping japan to the uk to germany must be expensive?
@dunhillsupramk312 жыл бұрын
carbon fiber repair is done similar to glass fiber so a specialist is not required... and repair cost may not be as expensive as you think but it still is costly... and when it comes to safety CF is much better cause in NCAP rating the CF cars are so strong one car can be used for all the test where as steel cars can only stand up to one test before being written off....
@borarieder22078611 жыл бұрын
i agree with you on one point! but if you wanna see something about carbon, check the video: megafactories lexus lfa! you see how they layer it and learn a lot about it!
@jonglewongle34385 жыл бұрын
So you got three competing materials in automotive manufacturing - carbon fiber, aluminium, and steel.
@SteU4IA10 жыл бұрын
reduce carbon foot print by taking that carbon and making fibre out of it!!! HA!
@hunndy9 жыл бұрын
Ste .L The company made the carbon first, before making the fibers.
@Takeitlightly610 жыл бұрын
I wanna buy one roll of cloth
@MrMoodit10 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@MatthieuLibeert12 жыл бұрын
why do they all look that nervous in this video?! and that second guy just creeps me out "THIS IS...."
@dillonmedia29210 жыл бұрын
Is it BMW policy not to look directly at the camera?
@CombraStudios6 жыл бұрын
That would be unsettling
@dunhillsupramk312 жыл бұрын
well unless you have a huge oven home and vac bags you can't do the repair home... and as for the look of the CF weave will be impossible to match but if the car has paint on it you will never be able to tell the difference... and as for the strength the CF will retain all of its strength after a repair just like glass fiber... and just like glass fiber you don't need to replace the whole part but you can patch it up then apply filler were needed and paint
@mrdee7344 жыл бұрын
the manager is a bit funny how he finishes his sentences :D
@adonislogan521710 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else fall asleep while watching this?
@botaeng210 жыл бұрын
Yeah I did... didn't even make it half way through I dont think now i'm watching it again skipping through the parts that I think I watched.
@mathlover101hotmail10 жыл бұрын
Means you have been watching too much porn.
@mariotrevino-gonzalez890210 жыл бұрын
this guy's logic: spends almost 15 minutes watching a video just to complain about how boring it was..
@adonislogan521710 жыл бұрын
mathlover101hotmail Not enough porn lol
@adonislogan521710 жыл бұрын
Mario Trevino-Gonzalez your logic: I just destroyed 3 of my 4 neurones figuring out how to post a comment on youtube. Now I should destroy the other one attempting to contemplate how another human's mind operates.
@samsmith97645 ай бұрын
love this video. for me the best part is the fibres progressively getting darker as the move through the rollers :D
@AZURA88812 жыл бұрын
@Nairuulagch can't be burned, in the process the fiber is heated and quenched at 3000ºC, so if you put a zippo to a wire it turns red but doesn't burn because is already burned, more heat 4800ºC? it sublimates.
@sirpfa5 жыл бұрын
AZR NSMX1 have you seen the video of burning carbon fiber rod?
@jekader11 жыл бұрын
Really interesting and seems even more detailed than what Discovery shows on the topic.
wow, i didnt know anything like that was an hour and a half drive from here. cool, wonder if i can get some blems lol
@Makcem12 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the droid factories in star wars lol.. they even make all the same sounds too lol
@lazygamerz12 жыл бұрын
When will they understand we don't want a carbon fiber part that's as strong as steel, but a part that is stronger than steel? Fex, put a few extra layers in that roof and sell it as a safety-feature (no pole is going to come through that roof, impaling your loved ones, if you land upsidedown at the side of the road). But a good video nonetheless! Very clever that guy who thought out that robot that makes the carbon composite roof, get him to think up robots that make other parts aswell!
@AZURA88812 жыл бұрын
@Dryzaum though is necessary to say that titanium oxidizes on air at 660ºC and reacts with nitrogen over 800ºC, that's why titanium is not used in turbines blades of aircraft, neither on combustion chambers or in the heat part of turbochargers of vehicle, For that purpose are used cromiun-nickel, niobium-molibdenum, carbon/boron cerments etc. Titanium is used in compressor section and as structural support.
@renovatiovr6 жыл бұрын
Those robots are sexy
@fetB6 жыл бұрын
guess i missed it, but why is it pulled over such long distances
@KjKase12 жыл бұрын
You obviously don't fully understand what it is that your trying to tell us.. A 1x1' sheet of carbon fiber composite with the same mass as a sheet of steel will be 50% stronger than the steel. Carbon fiber composites may be need to be thicker than steel to achieve the same strength but they still weigh much less because it's less dense than steel. Who makes carbon fiber composite parts with just 1 or 2 layers anyways?
@omega4chimp12 жыл бұрын
id like to see the pant owner i bet hes got a nose that points down,ahh germany loses 1000 hi tech workers somthing ahh i just gota go some some were right know ill be back.immigrates to eastern europe or north america.
@danlee30559 жыл бұрын
Will Ferrell..??!
@jacks.57668 жыл бұрын
if he was an awkward and bad actor. wait
@HWalla236 жыл бұрын
Didn't know David Lynch did internal work
@duanebowen63089 жыл бұрын
the carbon fiber strands are weaved by many different companies as in Hexcel, Sigmatex and other
@sirpfa5 жыл бұрын
Duane Bowen hi can i ask you a question?
@Joru66612 жыл бұрын
First off if it isnt about hardness but about tensile strength, density and stiffnes. As for those regular carbon fiber excels that of glass fiber by about 20%, is lighter by 20% or more and is 4 times stiffer (elongation over stress). There is a good reason for using it.
@BlackyBrownDestruction9337 Жыл бұрын
All this work for the roof, they could at least made the engine reliable
@billyboy888812 жыл бұрын
im very surprised that bmw actually produce it internall from scratch, instead of buying it from a supplier
@CrystalJean157 Жыл бұрын
Sgl is their supplier of the raw tow
@LavishRepublic13 жыл бұрын
Such a sick process and overall its just amazing in general that they can actually do this sort of thing
@shNECful8 жыл бұрын
so fun to see germans speaking english.
@AlejandroMeri11 жыл бұрын
This video is BORING!! A little music would make it much much better...
@cro50812 жыл бұрын
this video was as exciting as watching grass grow.
@abcsuperstar2298 Жыл бұрын
Why is this not done in Germany from start to finish??
@rob204912 жыл бұрын
German know their shit, precision and engeneering marvel!
@TechnikMeister210 жыл бұрын
The biggest issue with using carbon fibre components like masts and booms for racing yachts is that the component explodes when its resistance to stress or impact is exceeded and carbon shards explode everywhere. How to contain that is a big challenge.
@earthisnotflat75575 жыл бұрын
Does Carbotanium also do that?
@lvmenghe702811 жыл бұрын
What do you mean by oxidization process? Oxidizing from what to what?
@arbez1014 жыл бұрын
Look it up, meat head.
@therealchayd Жыл бұрын
Oxidising from Polyacrylonitrile to the carbon fiber precursor, it's done by heating in an oven. Then the precursor is heated in a vacuum oven at a much higher temperature to make the final CF product (done in a vacuum otherwise the CF would oxidise further and just get turned into CO2 and ash)
@LegalSkateboarding8 жыл бұрын
Is that 48K tow? :O
@bigboi1635 жыл бұрын
Looks more like 50k
@Wilson1960410 жыл бұрын
bmw is using cheap clean hydro generated electricity to power their factories, but government have to burn expensive dirty shit for public.
@ManufacturingAmerica18 жыл бұрын
Nothing like a Dodge commercial in the middle of a BMW corporate video.
@anaicam10 жыл бұрын
goog material, but it was long and make boring
@daddymar60632 жыл бұрын
From Japan to Seattle to Germany...
@CapeVoice12 жыл бұрын
Funny he says SGL is enraged about the release of the video, yet SGL has their own channel.... Hmm...
@longgolf55303 жыл бұрын
CO2 does not global warming. Lighter cars accelerate faster though, and save on fuel.
@Dryzaum12 жыл бұрын
Man, exhaust systems are NOT made of carbon fiber at all. They are titanium. This cooking thing is calculated and once cooled down it cant be heated again. I dont know exactly what happen to it but i think it looses its properties. Or its appearance's whatever. Mercedes didnt used carbon fiber in some pannels at the front of their Mclaren SLR because of the temperature of the engine. Obviously is no where near the 3000 celsius.
@mardg912 жыл бұрын
I own a carbon fiber bike. It is much lighter and stiffer then anything else I have ever rode. There is a reason that professional races ride on carbon bikes and it is not because it is cool or because someone bought it on sale. BTW you misspelled 'stupid'.
@Nairuulagch13 жыл бұрын
Maybe stronger and lighter than steel yet very non resistant to heat, easily burns I guess.
@VicariousReality79 жыл бұрын
Make me a bronze car
@AZURA88812 жыл бұрын
@00Mass00 imm, which is the time it takes to transform some quantity of polyacrilonitrile into carbo fiber through heat?, hours, weeks, months?. The process seems to be simple but slow. Thomas Alba Edison created some rough type of carbon wire. 180ºC, 240ºC, 1000ºC on Argon atmosphere, 2400ºC, 3000ºC.
@jaddyrose93182 жыл бұрын
They take this very seriously
@AussieBassplayer5 жыл бұрын
Why didn't they just buy from alibaba
@jorgecosta9512 жыл бұрын
You do notice that Japan brands don't follow European brands, right? Japanese brands inovate like European brands, just there are more or less merchandising.
@theovee43216 жыл бұрын
Moses lake..frickin funny..on the coat tails of boeing i guess..not airbus
@valeriejalandoni956311 жыл бұрын
it helped in my report in materials engineering. It's not boring, try to explore further material from carbon fiber. Your may not be interested but see automobile parts are made from carbon fiber. It's amazing how the strength of materials come into a not expected one.
@abdulmajeedtijjani69158 жыл бұрын
Presenter is so funny
@melissali15715 жыл бұрын
HORRIBLE VIDEO QUALITY
@Dryzaum12 жыл бұрын
@AZURA888 So the exhaust dont reach that levels of temperature? Or that ''titanium exhaust" that they use in the Zonda, for instance, is a blend of titanium with something else?
@HueJazzz11 жыл бұрын
haha you fool, you just told me your secret on how to make carbon fibers, now im going to make my own carbon fibers and take over your business hahahaaa :D!!
@arbez1014 жыл бұрын
Clean your room first Don.
@AKAtheA12 жыл бұрын
Carbon fiber composites are not harder but stronger(not the same!!)...
@valeriejalandoni956311 жыл бұрын
why color change? pag ang iron nahaluan ng oxygen, nag iiba ang kulay, prang kinakalawang. parang gnun dn yung concept nun.
@docstruthers10 жыл бұрын
no wonder the cars are so damn expensive. All that for one effing panel? lol
@MOVIMKR712 жыл бұрын
this dude is way to serious for the camera, find another talent, if you can, wow, take a chill pill
@thenerdistificate12 жыл бұрын
its good that i know how to make it but i dont have the money to carbon is too fucking expensive
@willibill111 жыл бұрын
The one thing i didnt see in the factory, was people, where is all the workers? i only seen one.
@ZamolxisReborn12 жыл бұрын
your supply chain is ridiculous.
@hiszpan2512 жыл бұрын
so when on sale we will see first fully carbon fibre BMW? seems like serious preparations are very advanced...
@TheBaconWizard11 жыл бұрын
zis is NOT fur der entertainings, it iz fur ze education, ant you VILL LEARN VIZOUT ZE MUZIK!
@xgelmirx12 жыл бұрын
Only germans my friend, only germans. Smart as hell but sometimes pretty damn boring :p
@Ralfenstein8912 жыл бұрын
if you crash your gonna have to buy new steel or plastic ones aswell, tho they are much cheaper.
@RudeMcNasty12 жыл бұрын
These plans are almost completely automated, just a handful of employees. it sucks to be human
@noneexistingman11 жыл бұрын
I wonder why they used plain weave instead of uni directional weave, plain is not as strong.
@mrico58917 жыл бұрын
what??? an carbon fiber roof without cooking in an autoclave???
@OrhallaZander5 жыл бұрын
I do this work...... Their plant is so much more high tech than ours.
@valeriejalandoni956311 жыл бұрын
Oxidizing means removing the electrons or decreasing the electropositive element or radical of the material
@sunghaHSCL11 жыл бұрын
this video is a must for students who are learning how to manufacture products of composites..
@CronosFilms11 жыл бұрын
because it's raw footage, he didn't edit it, no music, no narrator, nothing
@KDD812 жыл бұрын
your right you dont work for lexus you only produce the power plant for them :D
@zero00-1007 жыл бұрын
It looks like sting in the beginning and hair at the end.
@00Mass0013 жыл бұрын
@Nairuulagch Carbon fiber can not burn.. it only carbonizes thats where it gets his name from :) thats whats gives the material its great stiffness and strength.. however it takes about 3000 degrees to do so, and a lot of time(specially high modulus carbon).. that's why its so expensive
@sirpfa5 жыл бұрын
00Mass00 have you seen the vid of burning carbonfiber rod?
@greenrolaids12 жыл бұрын
leave it to the germans to make a great product but a boring video.
@lvmenghe702811 жыл бұрын
What makes the color change? They were white at first beginning.
@chautrongan61832 жыл бұрын
Thank Sir
@2awesome2928 жыл бұрын
Carbon fibers are made in Washington, USA because electricity is cheaper?
@mmarchmonte888 жыл бұрын
Yup
@marcelomarquez20892 жыл бұрын
CHORISCOPIC
@disobeyv27245 жыл бұрын
It looks like a mix of textile and steel plants
@HighDefinitionVideo12 жыл бұрын
Fascinating! Thank you for sharing this with the public. It sparks my imagination! Can I assume that the AC45 boats get the carbon from here?
@gziyakhondokar41843 жыл бұрын
Cter
@gziyakhondokar41843 жыл бұрын
Pearo.al.balona
@malayrojak12 жыл бұрын
All that shipping must equate to higher cost of BMW cars.
@meldimel13 жыл бұрын
@Nairuulagch dude a lot of exhaust systems are made from carbon
@mbarizia11 жыл бұрын
There are only clients on germany
@KDD812 жыл бұрын
aite vuurwekfan12 lets get back to making the lfa
@BMW-rx5gp6 жыл бұрын
nice
@CoolWaterCar11 жыл бұрын
well, that's not a sex video...
@qweqwe7004 жыл бұрын
Why is it necessary to to send the fibres for such long runs whether vertical or horizontal. Obviously there must be a reason but it can't just be tension eh?
@josephstorrud8050 Жыл бұрын
Oxidation and carbonization residence time to capture mechanical and physical properties.
@qweqwe700 Жыл бұрын
@@josephstorrud8050 Thanks! I watched it again and they allude to that in the beginning
@ICOD738 жыл бұрын
why so serious? the host i mean
@derekmark384710 жыл бұрын
Those look like M6 roof panels.
@ryanthomastew10 жыл бұрын
It sure looks like an E92 M3 roof panel. The CF roof for the latest M6 has a double bubble in the top. The one in this video does not have that distinct feature.
@Orgakoyd10 жыл бұрын
dont know what E92 means but looks like your the expert bro!
@ryanthomastew10 жыл бұрын
aryan adibmehr E92 is merely the designation given for that particular generation of M3. First generation M3 is the E30 - second generation is the E36 - third generation M3 is the E46 - 4th generation M3 is the E92 (E90 was the sedan and E93 was the convertible version - while the current generation has been split into the M3(sedan F80) and now M4 (coupe F82 and F83 convertible). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_M3
@Orgakoyd10 жыл бұрын
uh ok, thanks for that. is it true that bmw is getting rid of the 1,3 and 7 series and replacing them with the 2,4 and 8 series.
@Orgakoyd10 жыл бұрын
BBS rims on an m3 is probably as good as things get on this planet dont you think?